Turkey’s Erdoğan Not Only Wants Control Over Jerusalem But Is Now Demanding Germany Return The Altar Of Zeus Which Many Christians Believe Is “The Seat Of Satan” (Revelation 1)

By Walid Shoebat

Israel’s decision to remove metal detectors from Al-Aqsa Mosque that offended Muslims is “a step in the right direction, but it is not enough”, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said on Wednesday. This reveals that no matter what, God’s enemies will never stop their insatiable desire to rule over Jerusalem. Now Erdogan’s government is also demanding Berlin to give up the Altar of Pergamum (Altar of Zeus) as the Turkish Anadolu Agency reported today.

So will Erdogan’s government succeed again and should Germany give back the Altar of Zeus to Turkey?

The typical westerner today would rather fight over Zeus, the very symbol of Satan, more than to fight over Jerusalem.

But these days to say that God hates all evil, including paganism would get you equated with Muslims.

The West today laments more over the Taliban destroying the statue of Buddha in Bamyan Afghanistan and weeps over the pagan ruins of Palmyra in Syria when ISIS destroyed it, while they say zip about the infestation of neopaganism and homosexuality throughout the world. Today, the transvestite has more rights and the world demands they join the military. Today the world does not mind plunging us into old Greek practices where sodomy and paganism was the norm in the military.

Today even France brings us what might be the 21st Century capper. Two weeks ago the newly crowned French President Emmanuel Macron just said he will rule like the Roman god Jupiter (Zeus) and he was not joking. Mr. Macron is going godlike, comparing himself not only to the Roman Jupiter, but, because Jupiter is just a renaming of the original Greek god of gods, Zeus.

Reuters reported:

“Macron himself has said he plans a “Jupiterian” presidency – as a remote, dignified figure, like the Roman god of gods, who weighs his rare pronouncements carefully.”

And while the West bickers, the other self-proclaimed god, Erdoğan, gets what he demands. Even stubborn Israel finally capitulated over the ‘metal detectors’ and removed them from the Temple Mount. Now Turkey demands Israel remove the security cameras as well. The demands never end and the world capitulates giving up on Jerusalem and holding tighter to Zeus. Yet only when misery hits hard, that churches are filled with weeping hypocrites.

Erdoğan still bickered even more: “Israel is attempting to damage the Islamic character of Jerusalem with new practices every day by taking advantage of the current weakness of Muslims,” Erdoğan said during an event to discuss higher education in the Islamic world at the presidential complex in Ankara.

But its not only Jerusalem that is on Erdoğan’s top agendas. Yesterday, the Turkish Parliament began a process to recover the Altar of Zeus (Pergamon Altar) which many Christians view as the “seat of Antichrist”.

“Four political parties have demanded a parliamentary committee to investigate into the Zeus issue,” Bulent Turan of the ruling Justice and Development Party said which was also announced by Turkey’s Anadolu Agency.

The ancient Altar of Zeus and Pergamon city near the western province of Izmir had been evacuated to Germany. They are exhibited in Pergamon Museum in Berlin.

And its not as if Turkey has no temple to house this altar; last year the Hurriet Daily News stated “The Zeus Lepsynos Temple from the 2nd century B.C. will be revived to regain its former glory, as archaeological excavations continue in the ancient city of Euromos in the western province of Muğla’s Milas district.”

Muğla Sıtkı Koçman University Archaeology Department academic said they were working hard to best promote the Zeus Temple after quality restoration work.

So why the focus on Zeus?

What we observe daily as Christians is lamentable; the world is heading towards absolute evil where Zeus and even Odin worship is growing. Today “Iceland has seen a dramatic increase in the followers of its indigenous pagan movement in recent years, making Odin worshippers the country’s fastest-growing religion” the BBC announced. The total of Icelanders who revere Odin, Thor and the Goddess Freyja has leapt 50% since 2014. 50% in only three years should alarm us.

And in Asia Minor where sixteen centuries ago, Christianity finally came to that region, sweeping away all pagan religions, yet today it is reverting backwards. While Turkey is 99 percent Muslim and Christians assume that Greece is 98 percent Orthodox Christians, the ugly truth is that Greece has a growing number of Greeks who oppose Christianity in favor of Zeus with alarming numbers reaching to hundreds of thousands.

In 2007, former advertising executive Doreta Peppa managed to do something no one had done for 1,600 years. Dressed in flowing robes and carrying a couple of white doves, she performed a pagan ceremony at the Sanctuary of Olympian Zeus. As a representative of Ellinais—an organization dedicated to reviving ancient Greek forms of worship—she became the first priestess to hold such a ceremony since the days of the Christian Roman Empire. Soon the world will see Asia Minor like a dog going back to its vomit.

Outraged at this flagrant breach of Greek law, the Orthodox Church objected and the liberal media (of course) went on the attack against the Orthodox Church. In the seven years since Peppa’s illegal ceremony, opinion has shifted dramatically. Today, hundreds of thousands of Greeks from all walks of life openly worship the old Gods. Leftist academics, right wing Greek nationalists, new age types, and environmentalists all gather under the Hellenistic banner. Today paganism has become legal in Greece when it was outlawed a few years ago.

Across the country, the group holds ceremonies and organizes all-night revelries to the glory of Zeus. They even consider Greece to be under Christian occupation and champion a return to the ancient traditions.

Hellenization began in 1996 spearheaded by the Supreme Council of Ethnic Hellenes, a founding member of the European Congress of Ethnic Religions. The movement aims to unseat the influence of the Orthodox Christian church and return Greece to ancient Greek philosophies, ideals, and pagan religion.

The reason that such movements grow is simple, the over focus on race, heritage and ethnicity.

“At the core of the movement is the restoration of a lost cultural identity,” said Angelo Nasios in Patheos Pagan. “Reminding the Greek people what their authentic self is. For centuries, the Greek people have been subjugated to Orthodox Christianity, which has been against Hellenism from the beginning.”

Jesus not only equates Zeus (or Jupiter) with Satan, but he stated that Satan’s ‘throne’, or spiritual base, was geographically located in Asia Minor. It is for this reason that lucifer must establish a spiritual stronghold and headquarters making Asia Minor the significant role in the Last-Days Antichrist Empire.

And now Erdoğan is honing in on Jerusalem getting this fallen world closer to judgment day.

“Those who criticize our country whenever possible suddenly become silent when the issue is Palestine, Jerusalem, or Muslims’ rights or laws,” president Erdoğan said.

“We must not close the door of Al-Aqsa against Muslims of the world” insisted Erdoğan.

But opening Jerusalem for all Muslims is done to initiate a fervor and pilgrimage of Muslims. This is the “flood” towards Jerusalem. The “flood” against Jew and Christian is not only coming from the Muslim world but from many other directions where antisemitism is growing leaps and bounds even within Christendom.

The Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, has intervened in the continuing crisis surrounding the Jerusalem holy sites by accusing Israel of undermining the city’s “Islamic character”, in comments likely to further inflame tensions amongst Muslim states.

Erdoğan’s intervention looks set to raise the temperature again, with Israel’s foreign ministry accusing Turkey of behaving as though the Ottoman empire still existed.

Emmanuel Nahshon, Israel’s Foreign Ministry spokesman responded by saying that the Turkish president’s words were “delusional” and “distorted.”

“The days of the Ottoman Empire are over,” Nahshon said.

But Nahshon is naive. He does not read his Bible. The Jesus-style question that will challenge all, Muslim, pagan, leftist, alt-right neo-Nazis, liberal Christians and liberal Jews is this: how is it that only one God predicted that the Ottomans are returning?

So what are we to expect here, Turkey or Greece to build a gigantic structure as it was in the 2nd century B.C. as a temple dedicated to Zeus?

What we need to understand is that certain continuity exists between the various gods of beast empires. For instance, in ancient Egypt they worshipped Ra, the Sun god. In Babylon, there was Murdock, the Sun god and Sin, the moon god (or goddess). The Greeks worshipped many gods, but viewed Zeus—the god of the sky and thunder—as the king over all of the other astral deities. Later, the Romans also worshipped Zeus under the name Jupiter. There is significant evidence to view the Allah of the Muslims as the Arab counterpart to Baal, Sin, Zeus, or Jupiter. In pre-Islamic times, Allah-worship, as well as the worship of Baal, were both astral religions in the sense that they involved the worship of the sun, the moon, and the stars.

Yet strangely, prophecy is being fulfilled and today the worship of Zeus and Odin is becoming a creeping reality.

But when Jesus spoke of Pergamum He did not refer to the Pergamum Altar as the throne of Zeus, but rather as the throne of Satan. We can assume that Jesus made this point for a reason: the world will ultimately worship Lucifer. While the various beast empires worshipped an assortment of gods under different names, Jesus actually referred to Zeus—the chief god of the ruling beast empire—as Satan. Zeus was Satan dressed in a Greek toga. This point is crucial as we attempt to understand the nature of the work of Satan on the earth in the Last-Days. We at Shoebat.com have already identified the re-emerging Islamic Empire as the final Beast Empire. We may also now identify Allah as Satan. Satan has no limits or borders he has to abide by when it comes to deception. Today many ‘Christians’ follow Satan while they make-believe that they follow the God of the Bible and their numbers grow leaps and bounds.

Not only does Jesus equate Zeus (or Jupiter) with Satan, but he also states that Satan’s “throne”, or spiritual base, was geographically located in Turkey. As unusual as this may sound, Satan may actually establish a geographical stronghold or a spiritual capital of sorts. This is not surprising. As late as the 19th century, this throne remained in Turkey, also the location of the capital of the Ottoman Empire. Beyond this, Pergamum was relatively close to Ionia (roughly one hundred miles north) which is also mentioned in Zechariah 9 where Christ will combat it in His Second Coming. All factors considered, this passage in Revelation 1, by naming Turkey as the location of Satan’s throne, also confirms Turkey’s significant role in the Last-Days Antichrist Empire.

In two campaigns, starting in 1879, Satan’s throne, or the Pergamum Altar, as it is now called, was excavated by a German archeological team. The altar was shipped out of the Ottoman Empire from the original location and was reconstructed in the Pergamon Museum in Berlin in the 19th century. Today, the altar still sits in Berlin where it can be seen alongside other monumental structures such as the Ishtar Gate from Babylon.

Erdoğan’s interest in the altar should not be strange but revealing. In 1934, Adolph Hitler became the dictator of Germany. Hitler ordered construction of the Tribune at Zeppelin Field in Nuremberg specifically for the purpose of his Nazi rallies. Several volumes have been written detailing the deeply occultist nature of the Nazi regime. Not surprisingly, then the Nazi architect of the Zeppelintribune, Albert Speer, actually used the Pergamum Altar as the model for what essentially became the premier Nazi pulpit. The Fuhrer’s podium was located in the middle of the replica of the Pergamum Altar. In light of Hitler’s brazen anti-Semitic spirit, and the horrors of the holocaust that accompanied his career, one can only conclude that Hitler did indeed conjure up a measure of that satanic spirit that was present in Pergamum.

Today an anti-Semitic dark spirit is rising and our detractors are growing. Today it has become the norm to belabor slogans of racism and ultra-nationalism all hidden in the name of ethnic and national pride. To these we say: don’t kid yourselves the same dark anti-Semitic spirit that seems to have followed this ancient satanic altar to Germany, will now also find a welcome home in Turkey which is already bickering over Jerusalem.

Satan is plunging the world back to pagan roots. Therefore, we must strive through Christ to return Christendom to its Christian glory. God will have a day of reckoning when He will finally end all evil by completely destroying the wicked. In the meanwhile, protect your children by keeping them distant from this world and the underworld. Infuse in them what the Church fathers did before us: Christian zeal and the love for Christ the King, even if it costs them martyrdom. Teach them not to fear death, but to fear God. Tell them that no one can take their soul for their souls belong to Christ.

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  • Syncretism has already been born. It is growing up before our eyes.

    So many are being deceived by national pride and heritage over obeying God that in Christ there is neither freedmen or slaves, rich nor poor, Jews nor Gentiles, so Jesus may be Lord and Lord of all.

  • Cuzick

    ” In the meanwhile, protect your children by keeping them distant from this world and the underworld. Infuse in them what the Church fathers did before us: Christian zeal and the love for Christ the King, even if it costs them martyrdom. Teach them not to fear death, but to fear God. Tell them that no one can take their soul for their souls belong to Christ. ”
    Said like the true Father you are. This is what love should look like for those of us who claim to be followers of Christ.

  • OrthodoxChristianAmerican

    Part of what I plan on writing about in depth later is precisely the connection between Fascism, Gentile Paganism before Christ, and the Neo-Pagan revival that not too surprisingly goes hand-in-hand with Fascism.

  • Wilma Mills

    It’s sad to see the Jews cow tow to the Muslims, but this is all in the plan. The Jews don’t understand end time prophesy.

    • Grace Ziem

      Appeasing Muslims is like appeasing fire by tossing on gasoline.

  • PaulF

    Biggest mistake Germany ever made, bringing that stinking thing onto their land and honoring it. The two most terrible wars in history followed, and seven decades as an occupied state. If they get rid of it now their land may be surprised with great blessing.
    ‘You must burn the statues of their gods, not coveting the gold and silver that covers them. Take it and you will be caught in a snare. It is an abomination to Yahweh your God. You must not bring any abomination into your house or you, like it, will come under the curse of destruction’ (Deuteronomy 7:25,26).

    • Kevin Nicholson

      Martin Luther started that with the idol of heresy….

      • Higlac

        Please don’t forget that Jan Hus and Jerome of Prague came a full century and more before Martin Luther!!! Furthermore, even with the First two Crusades, there was much bloodshed inflicted against the Jews – something the Church for the most part fought against quite tenaciously!!!

        Ergo, we can be quite sure that heresy was a problem in Germany for quite some time before 1517/10/30 – in fact, it’s likely that faulty conversions to Christianity during the Dark Ages helped prepare a very fertile ground in which for heresy to grow… [To boot, much heresy has its roots found in paganism.]

    • Grace Ziem

      Getting rid of the altar, if done, may well be because of fear of Islam, not because the spirit of Christ is capturing the Germans. If so, blessings would be more minor than if done for true faith..

  • Kamau41

    “the world is heading towards absolute evil where Zeus and even Odin worship is growing.” Truly as we are witnessing daily, the world is certainly becoming so much more paganistic. We are absolutely seeing it across the board from government-churches-schools. Evil has penetrated deeply within our culture and now is widely progandized thru movies/social media. Excellent write up as always keeping us wide awake and on our toes as the days grow much darker.

    Love the conclusion/video which is quite refreshing.

    BATTLE SPEED AHEAD!!!!!

    • Kevin Nicholson

      “To the angel of the church in Smyrna: … I know the slander of those who claim to be Jews and are not, but rather are members of the assembly of Satan. …Indeed, the devil will throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will face an ordeal for ten days. Remain faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.” Revelation 2:8-10

      Amen, with the Light and the Sword to Victory….

    • AnthonyM

      Yes, good closing.
      Smyrna early became a Christian city, for there was one of the Seven Churches of the Book of Revelation (2:8-11). There Polycarp, the bishop of Smyrna, was martyred. The Jews of Smyrna were more antagonistic than were the Romans to the spread of Christianity, for it is said that even on Saturday, their sacred day, they brought wood for the fire in which Polycarp was burned. His grave is still shown in a cemetery there. Smyrna was the last of the Christian cities to hold out against the Mohammedans; in 1424 it fell into the hands of the Turks.

  • Anthony Palo

    Very great article thanks Shoebat foundation thanks for bringing us the real news. the world is really falling away from Christianity. In my country, the Philippines, the government is sponsoring bills that will make civil union (same-sex lgbt marriage) and dissolution of marriage (divorce) legal (I hope it doesn’t pass though), and now even owns and runs an islamic tv channel (Salaam Tv Phils.), If this is not confirmation of the turning away from Christ, i don’t know what is.

  • Doc

    People scoff at a mere object somehow having supernatural power, but they are blind to the fact that objects can be infused with either good or evil as a tangible physical force infused by either God or Satan. I predict if the Altar of Zeus does indeed end up in Turkey it will infuse Erdogan with a supernatural ability to defeat all who oppose him.

    Raiders of the Lost Ark for real, folks.

    • mspip

      erdogan already is a strong leader.

    • PaulF

      Just like it infused the Nazis with the supernatural ability to defeat all who opposed them. And of course their names have gone down in history as a byword for everything noble and good and honorable in humanity. Ahem.

  • AnthonyM

    Very interesting. I am not surprised by Turkey’s demand. The altar will go back to Turkey, and good riddance. The return will unify the Islamic world even more behnind Erdogan.
    Maybe Germany can charge them Shipping and Handling, at least. Will Turkey reinstall the altar in Pergamum, or put it on display near Erdogan’s palace for show?

  • Mart1963

    King of the North – > Turkey
    King of the South – > Saudi’s
    King of the West – > Lion beast man.

  • Yes but Hitler was definitely the antichrist of his time and much of these prophecies did match him so scripture was speaking of types and was for all times. There are many antichrists.

  • Grace Ziem

    Thank you for updates on what seems to be the coming antichrist empire.

  • “Erdogan could very well be the 11th little horn that rises up among the EU and subdues 3. But the EU remains the 10 horns. There is no place for Islam to be the beast.”

    So you say “There is no place for Islam to be the beast.” and then you say “Erdogan [who is Muslim] could very well be the 11th little horn that rises up among the EU and subdues 3.”

    This is a contradiction.

    The rest of what you wrote you did not supply valid sources to prove them. They are your own conjures.

  • Grace Ziem

    Thank you for this link; these children and those trained before in UNRWA likely will be involved in fulfilling endtimes prophesy; they will have eternal life, but they will hate where/how they spend it.

  • Grace Ziem

    To see a complementary view layoing outt the Islamic connection to Biblical prophesy, see the course on Revelation @fcfchurch.com. Session 2 will really open your eyes.

  • Cuzick

    What will be your thoughts on 24 September of this year when we’re still here ? Get a copy of God’s War On Terror and allow the Holy Spirit to truly prepare you for the years ahead.

  • jimmy

    pretty airtight analysis walid, as for this question “So will Erdogan’s government succeed again and should Germany give back the Altar of Zeus to Turkey?” yeah I think erdogans gov will succeed in getting back the altar.

    that’s pretty weird macron said he would rule like Jupiter which just further confirms what I’ve been feeling ever since I started really paying attention to things that these people are being controlled by evil spirits.

    yes no doubt Allah is Satan and Zeus. that old serpent takes many forms. even before I really knew anything about Islam the more I observed the more I identified Allah as Satan. I could see right through Islam’s deception and how it was leading souls to hell. I thank the lord for giving me the grace and discernment to see these things. and I’m wise enough to know islam is just one bag of goodies he sold the muslims he’s been selling Satanism, witch craft, and what not to countless other fools and even sold bags of goodies to so called Christians, his most effective trick of all has been the division he’s stirred up in Christendom with the protestants and their 39000 sects that can’t agree on anything. but victory belongs to god and he will bring all back to the ONE TRUE FAITH it may be a painful process and we’re bound to face chastisements but he will cleanse us of this poison.

  • Anthony

    Amazing…. really… poor children don’t have a chance almost

  • The more you write the more you prove my point:

    “Look at Isaiah 13:9-13 please. He will move the earth out of its place on the day of the Lord.”

    Why did you not examine Isiah 13:20:

    “It [Babylon] will never be inhabited or lived in from generation to generation; Nor will the Arab pitch his tent there, Nor will shepherds make their flocks lie down there.”

    Do Arabs ‘pitch tents’ in Rome? Show me where Arabs pitch tents in Rome?

    Plus now by your own admission Turkey (Muslim) is central to your theme.

    Now I have a thousand pages to prove Islam plays the major role which a comment section is not the place to refute all your assumptions, especially when you write “Vatican” as harlot of Babylon. Where does scripture say ‘Vatican”? Nowhere. Where does scripture say Arabia? Multiple places. But this would be a homework for you to do instead of repeating what we all have already heard.

  • “To say the Arabs won’t pitch their tents there does not prove the Vatican is not Babylon. The Arabs will not pitch their tents in Rome could indicate that it is because it is not talking about literal Babylon.”

    So if it is not talking about literal Babylon, you then assume that its not talking about literal Arabia, right?

    What then do you do with Isaiah’s prophecies? Isaiah even lumps “Kedar” (Isaiah 21:16) “Dumah” (Isaiah 21:11) and “Arabia” (Isaiah 21:13) in his theme of “Babylon is fallen is fallen” (see Isaiah 21:9, Revelation 18:1-2 and Revelation 14:8) and they will fall by the sword of “Elam”, that is Iran (Isaiah 21).

    Elam is Iran and Persia (Iran) is also in Ezekiel 38 which comes against Israel.

    Is Persia in Ezekiel 38 also ‘spiritual’? If so what is it? Now you begin to pick and choose what is spiritual and what is not.

    So go ahead and make my day is Persia ‘spiritual’? If so what is it?

    “The burden against Dumah” (Isaiah 21:11)

    Where is Dumah Bill? Tell us since you know it well.

    “The burden against Arabia” (Isaiah 21:13)

    Where is this “Arabia” Bill? Tell us.

    “All the glory of Kedar will fail” (Isaiah 21:16)

    Where is Kedar Bill?

    How could all these so-called ‘prophecy experts’ miss this, where a simple Middle eastern shepherd can read it plainly? These are all in Arabia, which is destroyed by Iran “Elam” (Isaiah 21:2). So crucial is this prophecy that Isaiah levels a prophetic oracle against it calling Arabia “Babylon” using the same announcement in Revelation 18:1-2 and Revelation 14:8: “Babylon is fallen, is fallen”.

    So it was ISAIAH WHO SAID WHAT THIS BABYLON IS. He already give the spiritual name “Babylon is fallen is fallen” exactly as it is stated in Revelation 14, 18 and then he TELLS YOU what this SPIRITUAL BABYLON IS: ARABIA.

    You spiritualize the literals to what you wish and you make literal the spiritual to what you wish. No matter what, you will always make a mold of what you wish the Bible should say since your enemy is Rome and you say it and you dim what the Bible truly says so obviously where an “Arab” is an “Arab” yet you make him Italian.

    I will not spend an extra second in such discussions.

  • Anthony Palo

    A deplorable Duck you noticed it too, i haven’t heard of this “Araw”, is it project Araw? if so then that is sneaky. haha I feel exactly the same I point at the tv too and say “kampon ng kadiliman!”. I think it’s not only at ABSCBN but also at GMA7, because they have shows like super sireyna, Dading, My Husband’s lover, Out and Proud, Destiny Rose, among others, plus it’s also interesting to note that Felipe Gozon the ceo, is a Protestant that’s why the show 700 club and other protestant tv programs are shown there ( i think the shows on the channel shows his preference). one small glimmer of hope i see is that the Divine Mercy Prayer is still shown at the ABSCBN channel every 3pm. though both of them still cater to the lgbt in varying degrees

  • As I said, I have no time to babysit on issues that are forgeries. Read Thomas Edward Brigett, Blunders and Forgeries (London: 1890).

    “Robert Ware, son of respected Irish historian John Ware. Thomas Edward Bridgett, a late-Victorian historian, did some remarkable document sleuthing[2] to show that after his father’s death Robert had inserted into his father’s papers (in distinctly different handwriting) anti-Catholic anecdotes, letters and liturgies, as though they were his famous father’s discoveries. As soon as they were picked up by another historian, Robert published them as sourced from the historian who originally got them from him. They’ve been pure gold for Catholic-haters ever since.

    If you google “Jesuit oath” you’ll find it said that it’s factual because it’s in the Library of Congress (true—but so is “Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs”), or that it’s factual because it’s in the Congressional Record. Given what we know about political rhetoric, that something appears in the Congressional Record is hardly proof of facticity. But it turns out the oath was entered into the record around 1912 when a member cited it from a newspaper editorial written against a Roman Catholic candidate in Pennsylvania’s 7th Congressional district—as an example of unscrupulous campaign practices.”

    Good day.

  • Bill,

    One could write exactly what you wrote and apply it to you. Did you read that book I sent you reference about? Its done by real historians, yet instead, you want me to read some blogs and watch some youtube which I have seen and watched and refuted for years.

    I don’t usually allow links because all links needs to be filtered and I do not have the time. Send me quotes from real historians and I will always entertain them. The problem is that you do not read historians for if you did you will cease from being Protestant.

  • The Pope says that “Jesus is the son of Lucifer”? Where did you get such nonsense?

    • rudycarrera

      This is the reason why it’s only worth reading a handful of posters here. Too many hit-and-run morons.

  • Examine Syria’s ancient borders and tell us what does it include?

  • You know zip about Pope Pius XII and his struggle with Nazism and him saving the lives of over 700-850 thousand lives of Jews. Only ignorance would make such a statement. Go and search what Golda Meir said of Pope Pius XII and all the Jews of his time who came and thanked him for saving their lives including the grand Rabbi of Rome who converted to Catholicism because of what the Vatican did for the Jews.

    You know nothing and he who follows your instruction is an abomination.

  • “You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.”

    You are justifying yourself by “faith alone”.

  • Higlac

    Goodness gracious!!! You need to read more closely and take more time. [Beware that long sentences involving multi-clausal statements are a habit of mine.]

    I NEVER, ever, ever, ever said that “the church fought against the crusades” – FAR FROM IT!!!! [After all, it was the Church that declared the Crusades in the first place!!!!]

    What I was saying is that the Church was fighting against the near-genocidal tendencies of not a few of the Crusaders marching through Christian territory (especially German domains along the Rhine River) where substantial Jewish populations were present. Those particular Crusaders – and they were not small in number – believed that it was their mission to forcibly-convert those Jews ON PAIN OF DEATH and the destruction of their goods.

    This has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the first Jesuit General – St. Ignatius Loyola.

  • “I do not need to read a Catholic Historian’s version of the history of the Popes.”

    Great. Than go and exclusively read the atheist historians. In the meanwhile, stop sending me red-herrings by changing the subject.

  • Kevin Nicholson

    “Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong (sin boldly), but let your trust in Christ be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death, and the world. ” Letter 99, Paragraph 13. Erika Bullmann Flores, Tr. from: Dr. Martin Luther’s Saemmtliche SchriftenDr. Johann Georg Walch Ed. (St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, N.D.), Vol. 15, cols. 2585-2590. https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Martin_Luther

    “Whoever sins belongs to the devil, because the devil has sinned from the beginning. Indeed, the Son of God was revealed to destroy the works of the devil.” 1 John 3:8

    “Consequently, brothers, we are not debtors to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. For if you live according to the flesh, you will die, but if by the spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.”
    Romans 8:12-14

    “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach [to you] a gospel other than the one that we preached to you, let that one be accursed!”
    Galatians 1:8

    Yes, ML was accursed….