The Muslims Will Invade The Vatican, And Try to Destroy The Roman Catholic Church

SHOEBAT EXCLUSIVE
By Theodore Shoebat

I remember a few years ago spending time with an Evangelical friend of mine. Within our conversation, somehow, the subject of the Crusades came up. Of course, I defended the Crusades, explaining that they were fighting off Islamic invaders in the Middle East. He, on the other hand, vehemently condemned the Crusaders as evil and barbarous people. I asked him, “Who would you rather win, the Muslims or the Crusaders?” He said, with a tone of vitriol, “It doesn’t matter, they are both the same! I would not care at all if the Muslims invaded the Vatican, the Catholics are just as evil.”

This is the predicament that we are in. While the Vatican is hated as the Harlot of Babylon, the Muslims are currently conspiring to take over and destroy Rome. And many would not have a problem with this.

The Muslims will invade Rome in the near future. Why would they try such a seemingly useless endeavor? Because when Muhammad founded his cult, there were two cities that he aspired for the Muslims to conquer: Rome and Constantinople.

The desire to invade Rome is still throbbing like a beating heart; it is alive and remains vibrant like a torrent within the very soul of the Muslim world. Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the most influential Sunni scholar today, made the prediction in 2002 that the Muslims will soon rise and invade Rome, making references to the declaration of Muhammad himself:

He [Muhammad] answered: “The city of Hirqil [Emperor Heraclius, that is, Constantinople] will be conquered first” … Romiyya is the city called today Rome, the capital of Italy. The city of Hirquil was conquered by the young 23-year old Ottoman [sultan] Muhammad bin Morad, known in history as Mohammad the Conquerer, in 1453 [CE]. The other city, Romiyya, remains, and we hope and believe [that it too will be conquered]. This means that Islam will return to Europe as a conquerer and victor, after being expelled from its twice-once from the South, from Adalusia, and a second time from the East, when it knocked several times on the door of Athens.

In the year 1453, the raging Ottoman Empire flooded the city of Constantinople, creating a flood of human gore and countless pools of warm thick blood. It was one of the saddest events in Christian history, and the cries of those slain still echo from the vault’s of mighty Heaven. But such an invasion of the heathen has not stopped; the savages have merely delayed their warpath for the purpose of deciet, and within their conspiring minds is the envisioning of a certain city under their subjugation. It is Rome. Rome, after Jerusalem, is the city that the Muslims have been bent on conquering since the founding of their religion.

Within the entire span of their existence, from Muhammad until now, the Muslims have attempted to conquer Rome seven times, and in each time their attempts were found to be in vain. In the earlier Islamic invasions of the ninth century, Pope Gregory IV protected Ostia, a suburb of Rome, from the Muslim attacks by fortifying it “with higher walls, and with gates and crenellations and trap-doors, and on top he arranged catapults with noble artfulness to fight off the enemy if necessary.” (Liber Pontificalis, 103: Gregory IV, 39, trans. Raymond Davis)

Pope Gregory Iv

Pope Gregory Iv

At one point they tried to invade Rome when it was under the pontificate of Sergius II. The Muslims reached the Church of St. Paul, only to be crushed by resilient Italian Catholics. When the Muslims were about to enter Montecassino, southeast of Rome, monks begged God for mercy with prayer and ashes on their foreheads. Right before the Muslims gained entry, a storm struck and the floodwaters flowing through the Garigliano River blocked the barbarians. The Muslims made a truce, Pope Sergius II accepted, and the enemy departed. (See the commentary of Raymond Davis on the Liber Pontificalis, 104: Sergius II, n. 92)

Pope Gregory II

Pope Gregory II

But out of all the battles the saints fought to defend Rome, the most sublime and epic of them was the Battle of Ostia in 849 AD. The Muslims sacked Rome, pillaged and plundered the Churches of St. Peter and St. Paul. When they entered the tomb of Peter they stripped away a silver altar, and overran Saint Peter’s church in the name of Allah and for their hatred of the Gospel.

Pope Leo IV arose as the defender of the city. When he first became pontificate he consecrated entire days to prayer and religious processions to render hope unto the people and to kindle the fire of Christian zeal after it had been extinguished by the Islamic barbarians. He had the city’s walls repaired; fifteen towers were built or renewed, and he iron chain was drawn across the Tiber river to hinder any enemy naval ships from sailing into Italy.

Pope Leo IV

Pope Leo IV

Before the Muslims returned to Rome Leo made a prayer that transcended time and space, that the God who had protected St. Peter and St. Paul on the confounding waves of the sea would fortify the hands of his warriors who were about to fight the enemies of Christ. Before the battle, Leo IV gazed up to Heaven, and with with soul rooted into eternity, his flaming heart throbbing with the utmost of zeal, his mind interconnected to the most learned of expositions, he proclaimed:

O God, who didst confer on thy apostle Peter the keys of the kingdom of heaven and didst grant him the pontificate of binding and loosing, grant that by the help of his intercession we may be delivered from the bonds of our sins; and cause that this city which we have newly founded with thy assistance may ever remain safe from thy wrath and have new and manifold triumphs over the enemy on whose account it has been constructed; through [our Lord Jesus Christ]. (Liber Pontificalis, 105: Leo IV, 73, trans. Raymond Davis)

This prayer offends many, I know. But this is what the ancient Christians believed in, and this is how they prayed (and for those who say that Leo IV is not a Christian or a saint, and that the Catholic Church is a false church, please provide one thing: evidence and documentation for the true Christians in the time of Leo IV).

Moments before the heat of valor and arms commenced, the Muslims declared their savage prayer to their false god, and advanced for a naval attack. The Christians made ready their galleys of war, and headed toward the Muslim ships. Then all of a sudden, as the unpredictable spark of destiny manifested its majestic flame, a powerful wind came upon the seas, and the roaring waves collided right into the Muslim ships. The enemy was dashed to pieces on the sharp and soulless rocks, and those who survived shipwreck received no quarter from the pursuing Italian Christians.

The Christians take the victory in the Battle of Ostia

The Christians take the victory in the Battle of Ostia

The Islamic world does not forget such defeats, and the hope of victory, to take what they almost conquered, has been forever in their infernal minds. Yunis Al Astal, a popular cleric for Hamas and a scholar on Islamic law, once stated in a speech:

Very soon, Allah willing, Rome will be conquered, just like Constantinople was, as was prophesied by our prophet Muhammad. Today, Rome is the capital of the Catholics, or the Crusader capital, which has declared its hostility to Islam, and has planted the brothers of apes and pigs in Palestine, in order to prevent the reawakening of Islam – this capital of theirs will be an advanced post for the Islamic conquests, which will spread through Europe in its entirety, and then will turn to the two Americas, and even Eastern Europe.

Here is the video if you wish to watch the actual speech:

Al Astal believes that the conquest of Rome will be not just a Islamic advancement, but a strategic point from which the Muslim warriors will expand into the rest of Europe and eventually into the Americas.

Another example is Egyptian cleric Salem Abu Al-Futouh, who said in 2011:

The Prophet Muhammad told us that Islam would spread. He told us about the Islamic conquest of Constantinople – Turkey of today – and indeed, it was conquered. He also told us about the conquest of Rome, which is Italy. People find this strange. “How can we conquer Italy?” they say. “We are too weak.” You should consider the number of Muslims in that great Christian center – another person converts to Islam every day. Check on the Internet how many people want to convert to Islam in the very heart of that papal center of Christianity, on their own turf.

Kamil Zarouq, a sheikh in Tunisia, also made the emphatic announcement that the Muslims will conquer Rome:

The prophet Muhammad said: “Rome shall be conquered.” Rome will be conquered in our days. This is the age of the Muslims.

This belief in the future conquest of Rome is not some dream or superficial idea Muslims say in passing, but a universal goal that all Muslims, both layman and scholar, aspire to fulfill. Rome is not just another place the Muslims want to take over (they want to rule the whole world), but a specific region that was desired by the founder of Islam himself, Muhammad. This cannot go ignored. There were three cities Muhammad wanted under Islamic rule: Jerusalem, Rome, and Constantinople. Why? Because these are the three heads of Christendom.

It was from Jerusalem where the Church received, in the words of Pope Sylvester II, “the oracles of the prophets, the manifestations of the patriarchs”. It is in Jerusalem where “the clear lights of the world, the apostles, made their appearance; here it [the world] discovered the faith of Christ” (The Letters of Gerbert, Letter 36, trans. Harriet Pratt Lattin).

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It is Constantinople that was built by Constantine, to be a city “without any temple of image of the demons.” (City of God, 5.25). And so with such a founding, and such a spiritual foundation, the devil would have his eyes to take it for his dominion.

And why would the devil seek the destruction of Rome? Such a metropolis has been concluded by numerous theologians to be the Great Whore of Babylon, the city of Antichrist. Why would Satan bother with such a place, why would his followers be so filled with vitriol against Rome if it truly was the mother of all false religions, including their own?

Satan hates Rome because it is a city whose church is beloved by God and destined to be saints. I do not say this from my own authority, but from the blessed Apostle Paul, who wrote these words to the Church of Rome:

To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. (Romans 1:7)

When reading these words, we must keep in mind that St. Paul is writing to the Church of Rome, that is, the Roman Catholic Church. For those who affirm that I am wrong, I ask you kindly, if Romans is not being written to the Roman Catholic Church, then which church is it being written to? And where today can I find this church?

You cannot find it, and you never will, no matter how hard you try. But if you would like to take up the challenge, then I would gladly see your findings. In antiquity, the primacy of the Roman Church was established as the head of the churches. This was not an invention of Constantine. Tertullian, one of the oldest and most ancient authorities of Christianity, declared the primacy of the Roman Church. I will let his words speak for themselves:

Since, moreover, you are close upon Italy, you have Rome, from which there comes even into our own hands the authority (of apostles themselves). How happy is its church, on which apostles poured forth all their doctrine along with their blood! where Peter endures a passion like his Lord’s! where Paul wins his crown in a death like John’s! where the Apostle John was first plunged, unhurt, into boiling oil, and thence remitted to his island-exile! See what she has learned, what taught, what fellowship has had even (our) churches in Africa! One Lord God does she acknowledge, the Creator of the universe, and Christ Jesus (born) of the Virgin Mary, the Son of God the Creator; and the Resurrection of the flesh; the law and the prophets she unites in one volume with the writings of evangelists and apostles, from which she drinks her faith. This she seals with the water (of baptism), arrays with the Holy Ghost, feeds with the Eucharist, cheers with martyrdom, and against such a discipline thus (maintained) she admits no gainsayer. This is the discipline which I no longer say foretold that heresies should come, but from which they proceeded. However, they were not from her, because they were opposed to her.(Tertullian, On the Prescription Against Heretics, ch. xxxvi, trans. Rev. Peter Holmes)

There are a number of points that are beneficial for our current discourse. Notice how Tertullian writes that it was the Roman Church that united the “law and the prophets” “in one volume with the writings of evangelists and apostles”, meaning that it was the Roman Church that put together the New and the Old Testaments in one compilation. Such an advancing action would, no doubt, provoke the devil to hate it, and hence, use the Muslims to destroy it. Since St. Paul wrote a letter to the Church of Rome, that means it was founded by God. Why, then, would God desire the Church of Rome to be destroyed by Muslims? Only the devil would desire such a thing.

The significance of the Roman Church in regards to the Christian Faith was first mentioned, not by any Church Father, but by Saint Paul. In his letter to the Romans he wrote:

First , I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. (Romans 1:8)

Take notice to whom St. Paul is writing this: the Roman Christians of the Roman Church. Thus when he says “I thank God through Jesus Christ for you all,” by “you” he means the Roman Christians, so he therefore is writing to a specific group and not to a general one. Thus, when he writes “your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world”, he is speaking of the faith as taught through the Roman Church, into which the Apostles “poured forth all their doctrine”, as Tertullian says, and the faith of which was “spoken of throughout the whole world”.

It is for this reason why St. Paul expresses such immense gratitude to the Roman Church with these words: “I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all” (Romans 1:8).

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Also, one cannot ignore the fact that no where in the epistles of St. Paul do we find the faith of a particular church praised as being “spoken of throughout the whole world”. It is only to the Roman Church that St. Paul gives this very significant description.

When the last Islamic confederacy configures itself, led by Turkey’s revived Ottoman Empire and its leader, the Antichrist, the Muslims will invade Rome, but just like their predecessors, they will fail. They will not succeed because Paul said, “To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints”. There is a divine plan for Rome, and this great destiny will prevent the Muslims, as it always has, from conquering the city.

The Italians are prophesied by God to be one of the enemies of the Antichrist. The prophet Daniel foretold:

For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant. (Daniel 11:30)

Chittim is located in Cyprus, and also encompasses the rest of Greece and the whole of Italy. For Josephus, in his own words, describes Chittim as

Cyprus: and from that it is that all islands, and the greatest part of the seacoasts, are named Cethim by the Hebrews (Antiquities, 1.6.1, trans. William Whiston)

From this we know that Josephus saw Chittim with a twofold significance, in that while it is Cyprus it comprises also mainland Greece and Italy, as we learn from Rawlinson (The Origin of Nations, part 2, ch. 2, pp. 185-186). Moreover, in far antiquity, as we learn from the ancient historian Justin, Italy was called Greater Greece, or Magna Graecia (Justin, 20.2). Therefore, Italy, through an ancient lens, can be viewed as a part of Greece, and therefore constitutes as Chittim.

Italian and Spanish ships fight the Turks in the Battle of Lepanto

Italian and Spanish ships fight the Turks in the Battle of Lepanto

There is significance in the Bible’s mentioning of Chittim as an enemy of the Antichrist. God says that He “will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations” (Ezekiel 28:7), and “seven shepherds, and eight principal men” (Micah 5:5) against the Antichrist. While God makes known that He will raise countries against the Antichrist, the only specific countries He mentions are those comprising Chittim, that is, Cyprus, Greece, and Italy. This is not to say that these will be the only countries (America will definitely be involved), but that these are the only ones mentioned specifically.

We also believe that Spain will be involved in warring against the Antichrist; my father, Walid Shoebat, has always interpreted Chittim to consisting of Spain.

Therefore, the Christians of Italy who will one day fight against the revived Islamic Ottoman Empire, will be those who are, in the words of St. Paul, “called to be saints”.

In the greatest naval battle of Christendom, the Battle of Lepanto, the Spaniards and the Italians allied together in what was called a holy alliance, and fought and crushed the Ottoman galleys. The Italian poet Giovanni Baptista Arucci wrote of this alliance between Italy and Spain to war against the Turks (who he refers to as the Thracians):

You have only to make the peoples of Italy and Spain strike a holy alliance. Let this be your labor, daughter: to join kings together, mind with mind, and spirit with spirit. In this way let Rome unite with Spain and the rich Republic of Venice against the Thracian [Turkish] Tyrant. (Giovanni Baptista Arucci, The Victory at Naupactus, 60-64, ed. & trans. Elizabeth R. Wright, Sarah Spence, and Andrew Lemons, The Battle of Lepanto, I Tatti Renaissance Library)

After Lepanto, the Church of Rome was esteemed as the glorious victor, destined by God to have victory over the Muslims. An anonymous poet, after the battle, wrote a poem in praise of Rome called One hundred verses: to the City, in which he exclaimed:

Glorious Rome, those wretched men [the Muslims] you now see passing by with their hands bound behind their backs, they are the enemies of your name. (One hundred verses: to the City, 16-18, ibid, brackets mine)

In the future the great crescent of the Ottoman empire will ascend from the rubble of its past defeats, ruling all of the nations of Islam, and it will charge against that city which Muhammad called to conquer: Rome. The fiery zeal of Christian passion will spark within the souls of the Romans, the spirit of Crusade will revive itself, and they, and the whole of Italy, will fight off the Muslim invaders. The Italians will also ally with Spain and Russia, as well as the United States and the other mighty nations called by God to destroy the Islamic empire out of existence.

What many do not understand is that the past battles between Catholics and Muslims are not isolated incidences in forgotten history, but parts of an entire war, that stops and resumes, in a continually eternal and cosmic struggle, between those who believe in the Trinity and those who uphold unitarianism. The war has never ended, and has only taken a temporary truce.

The Holy Cross will obliterate the idol of the Crescent, and destined by the hands of the Almighty, in that last and greatest battle of earth’s destiny, the enemies will be destroyed by those who are “beloved of God, called to be saints” (Romans 1:7).

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  • YouAreAVictim2

    If Christ tarries, nothing will stop them using the current state of apostasy in Europe. Sweden is almost lost, it will be followed by most Scandinavian countries then France, Germany, Belgium and the rest. However knowing the promise that the Gates of Hell shall not prevail, and that He who made that promise is faithful, I live in hope that there will be a waking up in the near future.

    • Robin-Frans Winkel

      The most important point is to stress the eternity of hell. Everything else will follow.

  • Owen Schumacher

    Theodore, France too has a Mediterranean coastline and sizable Catholic population. Is there any reason to believe France would fight alongside Spain, Italy and Russia?

  • Ted, The unfortunate turn of events regarding the Crusades and Spanish Inquisition, is that the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) not only fended off the Islamic armies but the RCC also did the same thing as Islam by forcing all non-Catholics to accept Catholicism and papal rule from the Vatican – or else! This “or else” included persecutions and expelling of millions of Jews who had themselves just been persecuted by Muslims. The Vatican gave the papal “okay” for when Spain elected to give allegiance to the RCC

    • shoebat

      Mike, can you supply historic references from formidable historians to everything you just said? I will be patiently waiting.

      • Here is the content as sent last night: Hi Walid, thank you for asking. I am submitting excerpts from one report that gives timelines and info regarding the Inquisitions. On a personal note, my family (former Catholics in Mexico) came under intense persecution when my dad converted to Evangelical Christianity after reading the New Testament. The local Catholic community shunned our family, pelted the house with rocks, called my dad derogatory names and literally threatened his life because he dared to challenge the RCC. My family ended moving out of the community. The irony is that the local persecution was allowed by the local priest. This was in the early 1900s when it happened – but
        it happened. As you are finding out, all organized churches have developed some “revisionist history” to cover up some of the wrongs committed by their founders. Calvin, for example, was as much one to persecute others for not following his doctrinal stance. Much could be said but when the Truth is all said and done, Christ will not be asking which church denomination we placed our faith in; He will ask if it was He whom we placed our faith and trust in. Here are the excerpts with a link if allowed to show:

        “The Inquisition was a Roman Catholic tribunal for discovery and
        punishment of heresy, which was marked by the severity of questioning and punishment and lack of rights afforded to the accused. While many people associate the Inquisition with Spain and Portugal, it was actually instituted by Pope Innocent III (1198-1216) in Rome. A later pope, Pope Gregory IX established the Inquisition, in 1233, to combat the heresy of the Abilgenses, a religious sect in France. By 1255, the Inquisition was in full gear throughout
        Central and Western Europe; although it was never instituted in England or Scandinavia.

        In 1481 the Inquisition started in Spain and ultimately surpassed the medieval Inquisition, in both scope and intensity. Conversos (Secret Jews) and New Christians were targeted because of their close relations to the Jewish community, many of whom were Jews in all but their name. Fear of Jewish influence led Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand to write a petition to the Pope asking permission to start an Inquisition in Spain. In 1483 Tomas de Torquemada became the inquisitor-general for most of Spain, he set tribunals in many cities. Also heading the Inquisition in Spain were two Dominican monks, Miguel de Morillo and Juan de San Martin…”
        Those are the excerpts. Your server apparently does not accept other web links unless authorized? Will place the link on the next post. 🙂

        • Walid – I just posted the link to the reference website. My comment is now in que and here is what the message is telling me:

          “Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by Walid Shoebat.”

          Same message I received last night – when the post didn’t end up taking. ?

          • Alicia Summers

            Please watch…

    • Julie LaBrecque

      Mike, only professed Catholic Christians were subject to the inquisition, generally speaking. Muslims and Jews were falsely converting to the church to gain prestige for political gain, and for the most part, they were the target. Its aims were to root out false converts.

      • Thank you for your comments, Julie. I did send a reply to Walid with historical reference as he requested. Included was my personal note from my family’s own experience regarding when my dad converted from Catholicism to Evangelical Christianity. Herein is the portion:

        “On a personal note, my family (former Catholics in Mexico) came under intense persecution when my dad converted to Evangelical Christianity after reading the New Testament. The local Catholic community shunned our family, pelted the house with rocks,
        called my dad derogatory names and literally threatened his life because he dared to challenge the RCC. My family ended moving out of the community. The irony is that the local persecution was allowed by the local priest. This was in the early 1900s when it happened – but it happened. As you are finding out, all organized churches have developed some “revisionist history” to cover up some of the wrongs committed by their founders. Calvin, for example, was as much one to persecute others for not following his doctrinal stance. Much could be said but when the Truth is all said and done, Christ will not be asking which church denomination we placed our faith in; He will ask if it was He whom we placed our faith and trust in.”

        • shoebat

          Mike, Where did you post your historical references so I can read them? Also, if you track Julie’s comments on this blog, you can see how she gets treated with prejudice for expressing her Catholic views. Persecution also comes in the form of prejudice.

          • Hi Walid, I responded shortly after your post last evening. My response went into the “que” – said it was being reviewed. ??? It didn’t get posted.
            I had a link to the Jewish virtual library that contains dates and specific information with more links to historical accounts of the Inquisitions. I will post this comment individually and then post last night’s response again separately to see if it takes:

    • Pete v

      Thousands of passengers? Really?

      • LOL – “passengers” were more like the deckhands providing the labor aboard the ships. 🙂

      • Here is some additional info from the link that I provided but never could get posted: (excerpts from the Jewish Virtual Library: Spanish Inquisitions)

        “In the same month in which their Majesties [Ferdinand and Isabella] issued the edict that all Jews should be driven out of the kingdom and its territories, in the same month they gave me the order to undertake with sufficient men my expedition of discovery to the Indies.” So begins Christopher Columbus’s diary. The expulsion that Columbus refers to was so cataclysmic an event that ever since, the date 1492 has been almost as important in Jewish history as in American history. On July 30 of that year, the entire Jewish community, some 200,000 people, were expelled from Spain.

        Tens of thousands of refugees died while trying to reach safety. In some instances, Spanish ship captains charged Jewish passengers exorbitant sums, then dumped them overboard in the middle of the ocean. In the last days before the expulsion, rumors spread throughout Spain that the fleeing refugees had swallowed gold and diamonds, and many Jews were knifed to death by brigands hoping to find treasures in their stomachs…”
        Google to find the complete info. Sad, but true. 🙁

  • Robin-Frans Winkel

    If you have a strong belief in the Trinity, it is very easy to crush Turkey at this very moment:
    “Turks? Kurds? Father, Son and Holy Ghost! HELL IS ETERNAL, HELL IS ETERNAL, HELL IS ETERNAL!!!”

  • Tra777

    I understand the Catholics and Muslims have fought for years…. What I don’t understand is the catholic church’s persecution of the Jewish people …. Help

    • Julie LaBrecque

      If you will study news as written DURING the time of WW2, you will find nothing but PRAISE for what the catholic church did for the Jews. The Jews in Italy were bribed to bring a certain amount of gold to the Nazis and they would be spared. The Jews were short by about 1/3, and the Pope provided the needed gold. The Nazis of course, after getting the gold, arrested many of them anyway. Golda Meir praised the Church. One of the Jewish top Rabbis converted to the church because of the love he saw, and took his baptismal name “Eugenio” in honor of the Pope. In 1963 a play or book came out for no reason except to put the church in a bad light, and sadly, it has followed ever since. Many Catholic were sent to Hitler’s ovens with the Jews, also a lot of gypsies.

    • shoebat

      Tra777, the man who saved more Jews than any other in history is the man who is accused of persecuting the Jews than any other man in history. That man is Pope Pius XII. If I share with you what that man did for the Jews and if I share what slander is, how it works and what it does, you will begin to see. It is only then that you will find the answer to your question. But my question is: are you willing to learn about what Pope Pius XII did for the Jews? Are you willing to examine the slander against him? Most say “Yes”, but in the end they will reject because they are a product of society and propaganda. I am acquainted with slander. Only when you become acquainted with slander will you be able to see. I thank Christ for allowing slanderers to slander me, for it was only then that I began to see who Christ is. He was the most slandered individual in history.

    • jmstalk

      If you all don’t mind me jumping in here, I would just like to remind you the church is full of sinners, and was so all the way back to the 12 Apostles. I don’t have the historical background to defend the Church against all of these accusations but I do know I have read in many different places that the numbers of people impacted by the Inquisition was much lower that most Protestants claim. But nonetheless, it has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not the Catholic Church is the true Church founded by Christ or not. Christ handed His Church over to 12 sinful men, one of whom completely betrayed Him. Christ spent His 3 years of ministry forming a priesthood of men whom He formed to lead His Church when He was gone. There is clear evidence in Scripture that Jesus Christ founded one (and only one) Church, that He chose and formed leaders, transmitted His truth (doctrine) to them orally, and gave them the powers to bind or loose on earth, to cast out demons, etc. He did not write a book; he did not send all of the people in the crowds out to teach and instruct. Nor did He empower all the people in the crowds. He prayed that we would all remain united. The historical evidence clearly shows that this Church is the Catholic Church, for better or worse. The people in it, individually, are usually not holy and actually are sinners, from the top on down. The reason the Church is holy is because Christ resides in His Church and He is holy. It is holy because Jesus Christ is truly present, Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity in the Eucharist and so in each person that receives and eats this Eucharist worthily. For all you who are trying to discredit the Catholic Church as the Church founded by Christ, cannot do so without challenging Jesus’ own decision to hand His Church over to sinners. He made this decision and to challenge it is to challenge Him.

      • Julie LaBrecque

        Well said, and it needed to be said the Jesus did Himself choose all 12, and one of those closest to Him betrayed Him. It seems that the first punch that gets thrown to Catholics is to point out failed Catholics, the implication, by omission, is being that “their” church is without spot or blemish. If what I said isn’t true, where are these people writing about the failures within their own churches?

    • Pete v

      The reason there was a large number of Jews in Spain before the Moorish invasion is because it was a safe place to be if you were a Jew. Gentiles and Jews got along reasonably well. Unfortunately, when the invasion began the Gentiles were betrayed and they had a very good memory.

  • Tra777

    It seems catholic/Muslim, is woman riding the beast , both , and they are divided against each other, because it says the beast will destroy the woman because he hates her.
    Who is responsible for blood of prophets and saints thought the years .

    • Julie LaBrecque

      Genesis 3:15 “I will put enmity between you and the Woman” Several layers of meaning here! Check it out! I’ll walk you through the several applications of the verse if you want.

      • Julie LaBrecque

        Tra777 – are you including the blood of catholic saints spilt by protestants?

    • shoebat

      Perhaps you might want to enlighten us folks here who read very little on the subject. Of course, we are not as well read as you are, so perhaps you might share the names of the prophets and saints that the Catholic Church killed. This should be an easy task for an enlightened individual as yourself.

  • shoebat

    Excellent documentary. I myself was a Catholic basher when I first became Christian. I even stoned and taught my children to stone Catholic icons. These folks who are anti-Catholic do not understand that if they only were in my shoes to see what this is all about. All I can say is God forgive me for my sins.

  • richinnameonly

    The Vatican, by necessity, must have an excellent security system and organization. I’m actually quite surprised that I’ve heard of no successful Islamic terrorist strikes there. Have I missed any? Not saying it won’t happen. It seems inevitable.

    • Julie LaBrecque

      I’m sure that it is inevitable, just a matter of time. Hopefully the Swiss Guard are up to the challenge.

  • jmstalk

    The Inquisition is not evidence that the Catholic Church is not the Church founded by Christ. Please go down below and find my earlier comment which elaborates on this. And sorry for the double negative, but its meaning is clear.

  • 1PierreMontagne1

    Thank you Mr. Shoebat for pointing out that Russia will be a nation allied with others that go to the middle east to defeat Islam. (Evangelicals are as lost on that point as they are about the history of the Church in Rome)

    Mr Putin is called a lot of things but he has remained steadfast in claiming that Russia is a Christian nation. He is one of the few if not the only Nation in the world drawing a line in the sand against Islamist hegmemony, and has as a foundation for his clams “Chrsitianity”. The rest of the world seems lost and bound by human rights to appease any Islamist demands. This is an actuality completely missed by western secular leaders as well as liberal secular journalism.
    The strategic importance of the Crimea was to secure it from Turkic Islamists who want it for their own. Ukrainian EU liberalism is under threat from the Muslim right wing but it is not politically correct to identify the Ukrainian rignt wing with the religion that drives it.
    The incursion in the Criemea is not about Putin and a return to the Cold war it is about blockading Islamist expansion.
    Any Muslim director of the CIA will declare the Russian incursion into the Crimea is anything…but not Islam.

    • Fhr68

      The Evanglicals I find have their own ideas and brand of Christianity.

  • yahshua love’s you

    The Roman Catholic church is being destroyed the most by its own people their to tolerant and all so the abuse that has happened in the past is all so working against them I hope that revival shall take place under a few priest that yeshua shall touch many to make a change with in but Islam will some how play a big roll with doing something diabolical so that the Vatican must bow before them but I believe real men of God shall rise up as crusaders who’s knees shall not bow

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  • Dan Knight

    Agreed. We are in mortal danger, when the NYT counsels the President against using strong language. And they think that’s appropriate to respond to a terrorist group.

  • Katy-follower

    God often uses one evil to wipe out another evil. He has done this in the past, and the scriptures lean towards this happening in the last days. Please bear in mind that it’s the Catholic system itself that is exposed as being in opposition to the scriptures. It’s the Catholic system that believers hate, not the Catholic individual. We feel sorry for Catholics that are being deceived by this system.

    While Islam and this Isis movement is blatantly evil, no one is deceived by it (except the Muslims themselves). Remember that the scriptures say that Satan is a deceiver and “transforms himself into an angel of light”…….. “For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works”

    So the dangerous one to look out for is the one that has a holy demeanor, that physically looks holy but inwardly is not. Satan is a deceiver and while he is involved in all the blatant evil his throne is one of ultimate deception which will deceive most of mankind!!

    From what I can see, the scriptures say that the Roman religious system will be destroyed, I *personally* believe that God will allow one evil to destroy the Roman religious system in the last days. Those who are a part of that Pagan system will partake of her sins and receive of her plagues, as the scriptures say.

    God is in control of everything and has a plan. There is no thwarting His plan. There is a reason for everything.

    Only through faith in Jesus can we be saved. We have to go to Him with EMPTY HANDS OF FAITH. There is nothing we can do, nothing we can offer for salvation, we have to drop everything that we’re clinging to and trust Jesus to be the safety net to catch us from falling, not cling to things that we think are needed. This is the only way to be saved, through Jesus, the ONE perfect sacrifice, no other way.

    If you don’t believe me, pray directly to God and ask Him to reveal the truth to you. He will, for He says that all who ask will receive and all who seek will find, and to those who knock the door will be opened!!! A promise. Just pray in the quiet of your room and ask Him to save you, that you believe Jesus died for you and through Him you can be saved. Pray this and He will save you, He will transform you, you will become a child of God.

    • shoebat

      You see here is what you all do, you quote a verse or two, that make an absolutely false statement that is NOT in Scripture, then the statement becomes THE Scripture. and then the Scripture (the Word of God) becomes obsolete and YOU become God.

      This is so obvious.

      Here, let me prove it beyond doubt. You said “From what I can see, the scriptures say that the Roman religious system will be destroyed, I *personally* believe that God will allow one evil to destroy the Roman religious system in the last days.”

      “From what I see the scripture say”?

      Who gives a darn what you see, the question is WHERE DOES THE SCRIPTURE SAY THAT “THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL BE DESTROYED”?

      And I presume you will quote me the verses about the Harlot of Babylon? Well, John saw that city and its in a desert. Jeremiah told us its by the “Red Sea” and Isaiah told us that it “the Desert by the Sea” and “Arabia” (See Isaiah 21)

      You talk of the devil and you do not see how the devil deceived you? You claim yo hate ISIS but in reality you love them to destroy the Catholic Church.

      Your quite evil yourself, in fact, even worse than ISIS for as you said that most can see ISIS is evil, but few see you as evil, which indeed you are.

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  • nancy williams

    Walid, I spoke with a Muslim who said they will use the Pope to gain what is needed for Islam. Then they will destroy him. Since the Pope is trying to bring together the One World Religion the bible tells about for the NWO, Pope calls it Chrislam that we all worship the same God. Which we do not. RCC has crucified and murdered atleast 100 million Christians and Jews in hundreds of years. They will do it again with Islam and the Pope being the Head until Muslims take out Rome. Pope have always used anyone and everyone for there agenda of being the Head of the World. Just has is in there writings. So most Christians do not relate themselves with Catholicism. We do not relate Christianity with the Pope. Pope is saying they are the Mother Church that the daughters need to all come home that Luteran days are over. Those of us that are Christians do not believe in the Popes teachings. I do believe the Muslims will go along with the Pope One World Religion for a time to take over the World. Then destroy Rome after they have conquered for there Agenda of Islam and the Pope will help thinking he will Rule The World and have Islam do his be headings on Christians and Jews again. God help us.

  • Owen Schumacher

    The Eastern Orthodox Church allows priests to marry, right? It’s not a bad idea, for sure.

  • Kelly ann

    Why do you think the Muslims are coming? For the very reason you expressed the tolerance of sin and evil. Based on your comment, I’m not sure if you know the dogma of the faith, as of now I’m hoping that you don’t.

    What did Jesus teach about vocations? It’s In the gospels , Jesus said “blessed are those who can bear it, ” the priest know and understand this teaching from Our Lord very well before they take their vows, does the human now override Our Lord who is the boss? , this is His church not mans church. and if anyone don’t like His rules, well that’s just too bad. vocations for the priesthood is a very serious matter not one to be taken lightly, as it has been taken in these past 50 years.

    Sr Lucy said the last attack will be on the family , expect things to get really bad from here on end because this marks the near end of spiritual chaistisement , next comes the physical one, watch the skies from here on end.

    You may want to look into what the bible teaches about homosexuality , as well what Our Lord explained to St Catherine concerning homosexuals.

    You may also want to take a look at this motif of interviews from the faithful clergy, concerning the upcoming family synod, in October.

    All I can say to you my dear is pray the Rosary of the Mother Of God for help! And ask Her to help you see things clearly, you will be amazed at where she points you too.. This is what I did, and I’m so very glad for it.

    http://youtu.be/pqJcsl7pB7g

  • Barbara,

    You typed all this nonsense.

    Now I know you just got offended that I called it “nonsense”.

    Okay, would you be able to put a historic reference to every paragraph?

    You can’t and you won’t 100% guarantee.

    You know why? It is because there are no historians who would back up what you wrote.

    Have a nice day.

  • Quote: “There is no promise in the bible for a final revival at the end of the times of the gentiles –”

    Correcto Mundo!
    However, there is this warning in 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 (NIV)…

    “The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.”

  • Idiot,

    Protestant nations are not fairing better than Orthodox or Catholic. Check out Germany, Gevena, Swiss, Sweden, Netherlands and see how they are as stupid as you.