The Homosexuals Go After Duck Dynasty, While Preying On Children

By Theodore Shoebat

The Sodomite nazis are going after Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty , simply because he pointed out a truth to the darkness of the sick, violent, and twisted mindset of homosexuals:

Everything is blurred on what’s right and what’s wrong… Sin becomes fine. Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men. …Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.

He then made a most sincere and truthful assessment to the deviant core of homosexuality: the disdain of female beauty, making him arguably the most honest man in show business:

It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.

Now they they are suspending him. What the homosexuals want to do to Christians in America is what Muslims are already doing to Christians: slaughter and enslave them. This is why we must fight this evil, and help save persecuted Christians in the Muslim world. Donate now and save Christian lives.

The sodomites, the purest haters of all that is just and godly, immediately went for the attack. Some sodomite (a person so vile his very name would desecrate this website), made this conniving statement:

Phil and his family claim to be Christian, but Phil’s lies about an entire community fly in the face of what true Christians believe …He clearly knows nothing about gay people or the majority of Louisianans – and Americans – who support legal recognition for loving and committed gay and lesbian couples. Phil’s decision to push vile and extreme stereotypes is a stain on A&E and his sponsors who now need to reexamine their ties to someone with such public disdain for LGBT people and families.

The only thing vile in this situation is what sodomites contrive and partake in, they indulge themselves in acts so diabolical, in things worthy of death” (Romans 1:32), and yet we are so careful to make sure that they are tolerated. The sodomite just quoted spoke of “loving and committed gay and lesbian couples.” Really? Let me show you how sinister these morally inept and demonic followers of Satan are.

Two men, who are classified as “Domestic partners” (a fanciful term to masquerade their depravity), named Charles Dunnavant and Carl Herold, took the boy who was the son of one of these abnormal devils, and imprisoned, sodomized, and tortured him for eight months. Not only this, but in their most hellish cruelty, they filmed their wickedness.

Huntsville Police Department investigator Chad Smith testified:

They held the child captive for eight months and there are no standards, taboos or lines this defendant and his co-defendant hesitated to cross

The evil does not cease, they also gave the boy an STD. Such men do not deserve love nor tolerance, but death.

There is no doubt that these two nazi sub-creatures (they cannot be called men) believed in “marriage equality”, hence why they are classified as “domestic partners,” one of whom had a son, which means they believe in homosexual adoption.

Yet, the government of New Jersey just banned parents from sending their children to licensed therapist who would help change them from being homosexual to being normal. But this is not enough for the sodomites, for their entire goal is utter conquest and the implementation of despotism.

New Jersey Assemblyman Tim Eustace, an open sodomite, compares this therapy to beating one’s child, and implies that the state should seize these children. He said:

What this does is prevent things that are harmful to people. If a parent were beating their child on a regular basis we would step in and remove that child from the house. If you pay somebody to beat your child or abuse your child, what’s the difference?

This is what the sodomite agenda brings: tyranny and pederasty.

The little boy was raped as a result of the homosexual agenda. If two men were never allowed to raise a child, or if homosexuals were precluded from raising children, this type of nightmare would never happen. Why does it occur? Because we no longer care about doctrine.

To many modern Christians, allowing homosexuality as a right is esteemed as being “free under Christ,” as though Christ believed that evil deserves freedom. I find no freedom for the sodomite ever specified in the Bible or in any teaching in Church tradition.

When we read that sodomites must “be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense” (Lev. 20:13), or, as we read from St. Paul, that homosexuals do things that “are worthy of death” (Romans 1:32) we either ignore these words, or explain away their significance. As long as we keep tolerating the homosexual, the more they will advance.

This is why we must become militant, and fight this evil to the fullest extent. For one to become militant, one must understand the nature of this war, and this is why I encourage you to get our new 2-disk DVD set, which consists of almost 5 hours of footage on why we must fight against evil and tyranny.

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  • 1Bobby8

    “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight.” ~ Isaiah 5:20,21

    • Billy.

      Woe unto those who are too stupid to think for themselves so instead trust a Bronze Age book to think for them.

      • 1Bobby8

        Sorry to see you so angry at God.

        • Billy.

          Pretty hard to be angry at something that doesn’t exist.

          • 1Bobby8

            If that’s the case there’s no right or wrong. Nothing to set the standard. Truth is just relative. your truth my truth, just a matter of opinion. How than can you be angry at someone else’s truth?

          • Billy.

            Morality is subjective but that doesn’t stop you disapproving of others actions.

          • 1Bobby8

            So your disapproval of me is neither right or wrong and my disapproval of you is neither right or wrong. Correct?

          • Billy.

            Objectively speaking that’s correct, yes.

          • 1Bobby8

            So your disapproval of me or anybody else is not right. And my and anybody else’s disapproval of you is not wrong…according to my and everybody else’s subjective truth.

          • Billy.

            Neither my disapprovals or yours are objectively correct. They are subject to scrutiny and subjective morality however.

          • 1Bobby8

            So why are you arguing? Are you trying to change my truth to yours when your truth is admittedly only subjective?

          • Billy.

            Your “truth” may be influenced by objectively wrong conclusions. Your “truth” may interfere with the civil rights of others.
            Regardless your argument can be made about literally anything and unless you’re seriously suggesting that all people everywhere should stop arguing about absolutely everything (an absurdity) then I’m going to guess that you’re not being entirely sincere here.

          • 1Bobby8

            My truth is my truth…Are you suggesting your “truth” is truer than my truth?

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            Subjective morality is an oxymoron. Like a false truth, no such thing.

          • Billy.

            lol no it isn’t. In fact there quite a lot of philosophy out there on subjective morality. Religious fundamentalists often reject the idea wholesale though so I’m guessing that’s what you’re doing.

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            Your reply does not follow logically to what i said, or have pertinence to my statement’s truth.

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            In other words there is a lot of blahblahblah “out there” on pretty much any/everything. That doesn’t disprove what i stated. It merely said something that is common knowledge.(so kind of meaningless actually.)

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            Good night.

          • Billy.

            Believe me, what you’re writing is most definitely the “bla bla bla” in comparison to the wide discussion on morality in philosophy.

          • Billy.

            I’m not sure what your deal is exactly but my statement both logically followed what you said and was indeed pertinent. If you’re having trouble understanding my posts then perhaps stop replying to me.

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            That’s mean spirited and hateful of you. What about my right to do and say whatever i relativeistically, subjectively want? You need to support my equal right– you are inconsistent, or maybe just slipping. a little.

          • Billy.

            It wasn’t very mean spirited or hateful at all.
            You have the right to say what you like. What you don’t have is the right to be free of any consequences for what you say.

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            Can you answer 1B8′s question?

          • Billy.

            Because someone’s else’s truth may oppress others. If it were my truth that Christians are evil and should be exterminated, and I worked towards that goal politically (don’t worry, that isn’t my truth) I’m fairly sure you would reserve the right to be angry at my truth.

          • Billy.

            Ok done.

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            Good question.
            If morality is subjective then Billy is guilty of that which he would accuse me of… he is here to charge people of certain beliefs of beings bigots, etc…
            But wait, Billy MORALITY IS ALL Subjective and Relative so why are you fighting us? You should not be such a moral bigot.

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            Let us say that it is all relative and subjective but that i just cannot get that thru MY THICK SKULL.

            So i come here and spout my bigoted opinions and mindless opiated-mass beliefs.

            But Billy YOU GET IT, YOU KNOW all morality is subjective and relative.

            So are you being –er, um — true — intellectually or morally,to your belief by confronting mine in any way?

            If not, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

          • 1Bobby8

            Exactly Laurie. Why should anybody submit to his subjective morality.

          • Billy.

            Because someone’s else’s truth may oppress others. If it were my truth that Christians are evil and should be exterminated, and I worked towards that goal politically (don’t worry, that isn’t my truth) I’m fairly sure you would reserve the right to be angry at my truth.

          • 1Bobby8

            But that is only your subjective truth. Why are you trying to change our “subjective” truth to your subjective truth? Your “truth” isn’t our truth.

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            Not a true statement.

          • Billy.

            Yes it is.

    • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

      Thanks it’s encouraging to see a post here that doesn’t sound like “No i didn’t YOU did!!” I did NOT, YOU did!!” “Did not!!!” “Did TOO!!” NANNYNANNYBOOBOO!!!

  • Brooks Kaiser

    A proud gay would have to agree that gays don’t think straight.

  • Billy.

    Oh dear, is the stupid bigot upset that society no longer tolerates homophobia so his dumb duck show got cancelled? Boo-hoo Christians have been oppressing homosexuals, among other minorities, for as long as the faith has existed but one crappy tv show gets canceled and morons like Walid pretend that Christians are the oppressed ones, it’s pathetic.

    • sumsrent

      The show didn’t get cancelled…

      • Billy.

        Add the word “might” to the list of words you have trouble understanding.

  • Billy.

    Is there anything more ironic than a Muslim brotherhood theocracy supporter complaining about others bringing “tyranny”? Perhaps a facist right-winger calling gay people “Nazis” when the Nazis, who shared the contemporary right-wing view of homosexuals, killed many gay people in the holocaust. Something the facist author of this awful article would probably support because in reality it’s he who is the tyrant.

    • BigSky1970

      If you think Phil Robertson is “radical” you’ve not seen how radical Islam is. I can guarantee you that when the Muslims start purging infidels, the homosexuals will be the first to go. They don’t look at homosexuality as a sin, but a death sentence. Muslims make the Nazis look like back-sliders by comparison. Oh, and by the way, the Muslims supported the Nazis purge of the Jews in WWII too.

      • Billy.

        Why would anyone care about a “guarantee” about what will happen in your personal idiotic predictions? In reality nothing of the sort will happen, by the way I know numerous Muslims in real life who have no problems with gay people, quite a few even support same sex marriage. Do me a favor and keep your “guarantees” about your moronic bigoted predictions to yourself you idiot.

        • BigSky1970

          Wow, so much hatred from the tolerant left!

          • Billy.

            I didn’t realize rejecting paranoid prejudiced conspiracies was now “hatred”. No wonder you idiots can’t understand why the majority of the electorate correctly identifies the right-wing as the hateful ones.

          • BigSky1970

            But rejecting a lifestyle choice is “hatred” in your book.

          • Billy.

            Nobody’s forcing you to live that lifestyle are they?

          • sumsrent

            You missed the point… it’s about you homo’s hating everything and everyone who disagrees with your choice. To the point of persecuting them for simply speaking out… when y’all want the privilege to voice your thoughts.
            In other words… it’s typically a one way street with homos… y’all want to speak… but silence everyone else who disagrees. <<< [It's the satanic Islamic way.]

          • Billy.

            This is a bit rich when you consider the historical oppression of homosexuals by Christians.
            By the way it’s more of a one way street with Christians, you want rights and free speech but you don’t want it for homosexuals.

          • sumsrent

            Maybe you haven’t noticed… the world tends to lean towards keeping their mouths shut on Homo issues… but are quick to shove Christians around. Like what you’re doing here…

          • Billy.

            Do tell me, when was it that Christians couldn’t get married? When was it that Christians were the small minority to push around?
            When was it that we had repeated homosexual Presidents and not one Christian one? The Christian victimization complex is pathetic.

          • sumsrent

            Are you living in the past and ignoring of what’s going on today?

            The bigoted gay and bigoted homo victimization complex is pathetic!

            Now tell me this… how many bigoted homos have been killed in this world over the past week?

            Now… add up all the Christians that have been killed… compare the two… and wakie up!

          • Billy.

            Firstly it’s not a “victimization complex” if another group is denying you basic civil rights.
            Secondly you have no idea how many homosexuals or Christians have been killed.
            Thirdly there’s far more Christians in the world than gay people so even if more Christians were killed that doesn’t reflect persecution, it reflects basic math.
            Fourth you’re a moron.

          • sumsrent

            You’re gonna have to explain to me how sticking a penis into a azzhole is a civil right?

          • Billy.

            Marriage is a civil right.
            Regardless I could just as well ask you to explain why sticking a penis into a vagina is a civil right.

          • sumsrent

            Christians have been persecuted and pushed around the moment Christ Jesus preached in the Temple!
            From then on it’s been the Luciferian, muslims, antichrists and gays & Homos.
            Did ya miss the headline on this article? [duh]

          • Billy.

            Christians have persecuted others throughout the developed world over the last few centuries. No Christian has known true persecution in the United States, Christians are over represented in government, have civil rights that they try to deny to others and are the majority. They are not persecuted.

          • sumsrent

            Christians in the past… once again… old laws…
            Remember… slavery was once legal too… and times have changed…
            Hey dude… this is 2013… a Christian was just terminated from his position. That’s bigotry!

          • Billy.

            Is it bigotry every time a Christian is terminated from his position by a straight man working for a private sector business?

          • docrt925

            no…rejecting another human being based on their inherent sexual orientation is hatred.

          • sumsrent

            “paranoid prejudiced conspiracies”???
            Maybe you’re missing the point?
            Christians are being persecuted for speaking out against homosexuality.
            Seems to me… I recall a day when you gays were screaming about inequality?
            The problem nowadays is… it’s become a one way street for you homos. You want to be the voice while everyone else must be quiet!
            Now STOP… and think… the time will come when your beliefs and actions today will be seen as paving the way against those who speak out about satanic Islam.
            And the ironic thing is… as things stand right now… muslims aren’t gonna be tolerable of your homo ways. And your voice will be silenced once again.
            Let’s see how things play out… aye?

          • Billy.

            What moronic drivel. Yes the idea that Muslims will take over the USA and eliminate the gays is indeed a paranoid prejudiced conspiracy theory. Secondly I myself am not gay, I’m a heterosexual male married to a woman. That doesn’t matter though, do you think you need to be gay to support equality?
            What you’re upset about is that Christian tyrants have lost the ability to oppress homosexuals. You’re upset that people will no longer tolerate your intolerance, as if that were somehow the same as your homophobic prejudices.
            Let’s see how things play out? Gladly, marriage equality throughout the country is an inevitability, you fundy tyrants have lost the culture war.

          • sumsrent

            Actually; what you spew is moronic drivel…

            The fight for gay rights might be their own downfall. I just can’t see Islam accepting homosexuality. I could be wrong… They’ve virtually accepted every other type of sexual sin. But the struggle for these gay rights will benefit Islam in the long run with or without the gays.

            Basically; accepting those who want us dead. Now that’s a
            warped, backwards conditioning.

            Take a look at the hidden justice being performed by Iran
            lately… what we don’t hear in the mainstream!

            Undhimmi reports:

            “With Iran hanging its citizens for murder; armed robbery; rape; blasphemy; apostasy; adultery; prostitution; homosexuality; drug-related offences – oh, and plotting to overthrow the Islamic regime – it’s no wonder the crane operators are so busy.

            Iran uses an appallingly crude and inhuman method of hanging.
            Unlike the ‘long drop’ method, which – correctly carried out – swiftly fractures the neck causing instantaneous death; the victim is instead suspended at altitude from a crane or scaffold until they asphyxiate – a demise which can prove long and agonizing).

            It amounts to little other than strangulation at height; and is invariably accompanied by – what else? – an assembled throng
            screaming ‘Allahu Akbar!’.

            Such a peaceful, tolerant régime. Such a peaceful, tolerant religion.”
            The same satanic government who is insistent to “Dominate the world”!
            So you go ahead and downplay what’s going on in this world…

          • docrt925

            why are Christians required to “speak out” … against homosexuality – or anything, for that matter? isn’t faith about a relationship with God and living “your” life in accordance with the teachings you’ve chosen to follow as a way to enter Heaven (rather than showing it off in public and proclaiming your judgments of other people)? OH and according to the Bible, shouldn’t you be enjoying/celebrating/expecting the “persecution” for your “righteousness”? Matthew 5:10. The “problem” your claiming is, actually, the response created by the actions of those who seek to insert religious doctrine as the basis for civil law…so as to deny equal status & protection under the law to certain citizens of this country.

          • sumsrent

            You ask… “why are Christians required to “speak out” … against homosexuality” Simply… because it’s wrong. << How's that for an answer?

            Now tell me… muslims believe you should beat your wives and some even go as far as throwing acid in their face… do you feel as if you should speak out against those beliefs? Why?

            Do you speak out against the Vatican's handling of the child molestation? Why?

            I guess you answered your own questions… aye?

            Now answer me this… at what point will you speak out on bestiality? When they require rights?

            How 'bout NAMBLA? When they want rights too?

            Next you ask… "isn't faith about a relationship with God and living "your" life in accordance with the teachings you've chosen to follow as a way to enter Heaven"

            A: Nope.

            Next… "shouldn't you be enjoying/celebrating/expecting the "persecution" for your "righteousness"?"
            A: Nope.
            And finally… your "problem" statement…
            You're assuming my position… so understand this… I will NOT conform to the ways of this world.

      • Halou

        Exactly what is the difference between a lunatic purging gay people while screaming lines from the Quran, and an equally mad person purging gay people to the sound of Bible passages?
        Two mentioned in this article: “they are to be put to death” (Lev. 20:13), and “those who do such things deserve death” (Romans 1:32)
        Whether you’re right or wrong about Muslims, I don’t see why gay people should take a side in your disagreement, preferring death by Bible verse over death by Quran verse, surely the result is the same for them either way.

        • Billy.

          Christian fundamentalist views are almost identical to the views of Muslim fundamentalists. The only thing stopping them working together is a mutual xenophobia.

  • sumsrent

    Folks… evidence shows that all the gays, homosexuals, transgender combined make up a measly 4% of the American population…
    But somehow they’re given the voice of the majority… go figure…
    Just wait until the satanic worshipping muslim immigrants get positioned to make up 4% of the population.

    • Billy.

      The 4% type numbers were found back when society was far more prejudiced towards homosexuals so the numbers are lower than reality. Modern evidence suggests the real number is over 10% and up to 25% if you include bisexuals who have had homosexual attractions at some point in their life.

      • sumsrent

        Interesting… just the other day I looked this info up… and now Wiki is reporting that in 2010 it was 7%.
        Make s me think some gay went and changed the percentage…
        Q: Do you believe Christians should speak out against the persecution of homos by muslims?
        PS… the asshole is a sewage pipe… not designed for the penis.

        • Billy.

          Makes me think that you’re too stupid to remember numbers.
          PS you should check out the % numbers of those who support marriage equality, you really won’t like those!

          • sumsrent

            Wrong… my facts are correct…

            Wiki Reports:

            “In fiscal year 2012… Nine million Americans identify as homosexual, bisexual or transgender, making up less than four percent of the population.” [185]

            wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/United_States <<< [population segment]

            You say… "Those who support marriage equality"?

            Naw… I believe they could care less… not "support" it.
            Your turn…

          • Billy.

            “There’s lots more studies that back my numbers, he’s the abstract from just one:
            “Researchers determining the prevalence of homosexuality in nationally representative samples have focused upon determining the prevalence of homosexual behavior, ignoring those individuals whose sexual attraction to the same sex had not resulted in sexual behavior. We examine the use of sexual attraction as well as sexual behavior to estimate the prevalence of homosexuality in the United States, the United Kingdom, and France using the Project HOPE International Survey of AIDS-Risk Behaviors. We find that 8.7, 7.9, and 8.5% of males and 11.1, 8.6, and 11.7% of females in the United States, the United Kingdom, and France, respectively, report some homosexual attraction but no homosexual behavior since age 15. Further, considering homosexual behavior and homosexual attraction as different but overlapping dimensions of homosexuality, we find 20.8, 16.3, and 18.5% of males, and 17.8, 18.6, and 18.5% of females in the United States, the United Kingdom, and France report either homosexual behavior or homosexual attraction since age 15. Examination of homosexual behavior separately finds that 6.2, 4.5, and 10.7% of males and 3.6, 2.1, and 3.3% of females in the United States, the United Kingdom, and France, respectively, report having had sexual contact with someone of the same sex in the previous 5 years. Our findings highlight the importance of using more than just homosexual behavior to examine the prevalence of homosexuality.”
            Ok your turn again.

          • sumsrent

            Just because someone had engaged in some sort of homosexual encounter doesn’t make them homosexual.
            Your stats are counting those figures in just to inflate the numbers…
            Also they’re grouping in non USA figures to inflate the numbers…
            It appears as if your sources are untrustworthy…
            Your turn…

          • Billy.

            Do you know how to read? They are not inflating anything, USA numbers UK numbers and French numbers are all shown but they don’t “inflate” each other, they show the reality in 3 separate countries. Your turn (to go back to school and learn to read.)

          • sumsrent

            Did you not state earlier… “real number is over 10% and up to 25%” <<< You base that on what? Using the numbers from various countries!

            It clearly says… "Our findings highlight the importance of using more than just homosexual behavior to examine the prevalence of homosexuality." <<< [All to inflate the numbers.]

          • Billy.

            If you could read you would notice that the numbers for the USA match up with my assertion quite well. That various countries also match up to my number is irrelevant on that point.

          • sumsrent

            I hear ya… but they aren’t matching up with what I’m finding regarding just the USA.
            So… I’ll give ya the 10%. The point is… the Homos have a large voice for such a small percentage of the population.
            And why’s that?
            To set you up to pave the way for muslims to oppress others who don’t agree with their ways? Or… to set you up to single you out for execution by muslims? <<< Makes ya wonder if being such a gay pride activist is the smart thing to do… aye?
            At any rate… evidence shows… you homo's won't have a voice as large as the muslims do.
            Which shows your ignorance… you speak out against Christians who typically turn their heads to your sinful ways… but you gays never have a bad word to say about the muzzies who will slaughter you down like animals.

          • Billy.

            I’m not homosexual and your idiotic prejudiced conspiracy theory about a Muslim takeover is embarrassing drivel.

          • sumsrent

            satanic Islam’s horrific radical desire for world conquest is not a conspiracy… and why would you waste your time standing up for homos? Because you’re a bisexual? Transgender? A good will Samaritan?
            Hey… maybe you haven’t heard… A Christian was just terminated from his show unfairly! Why aren’t you speaking out against that?

          • Billy.

            I’m heterosexual, I stand up for gay rights because I believe in equality rather than whiny Christian oppressors. Your paranoid prejudiced view of Islam is indeed a conspiracy and that stupid duck guy deserved to be terminated.

          • sumsrent

            There ya go… you have now exposed yourself as a hypocrite.
            You feel as if your words should count… you feel as if you can express what you believe… expect to be heard… without opposition… because of equality… aye?
            But anytime a Christian says what they believe… they’re scrutinized… singled out and hated as haters… and required to be punished.
            Do you not get it!?
            It’s a one way street with the Homo world and their agenda… just like satanic Islam! They’re one in the same!
            Y’all are the idiots… the two faced double standards of Homos and muslims…
            Hating on those who hate… but believing your hate is justified!
            PS… there’s a petition to reinstate Phil… which I “support”!

          • Billy.

            Don’t be a moron you right wingers scrutinize gay people and especially Muslims just as much if not more. You’re bigoted against homosexuals and you’re bigoted against Muslims. All you’ve got is the same whiny “why don’t you tolerate my intolerance!” nonsense. You’re a hypocritical bigot that wants to deny gay people equality and would happily restrict the rights of Muslims.

          • sumsrent

            You aren’t listening!
            I don’t care what homos do… that’s between them and God.
            I hate their sinful ways and will speak out against them whenever they present their opinions.
            And… as much as they desire to spread their satanic ways… I desire to oppose them.
            If you or them don’t like it… you prove my points.
            Your best bet would be… keep your mouths shut if you or them don’t want the opposition.
            Simple as that.

          • Billy.

            So you think homosexuals are “satanic” and “hate their sinful ways” but you still don’t recognize that you’re being a bigot? You’re a special kind of stupid aren’t you?
            By the way we don’t care about the “opposition” I don’t know if you’ve noticed but our side is winning.
            Christians want to oppress homosexuals, the homosexuals are fighting for equality and their civil rights. You’re the bigot, not them.

          • sumsrent

            Ah… so now you claiming… “[your] side is wining”…
            Which exposes the truth… Christians are the ones being persecuted… by the bigoted gays and bigoted homos.

          • Billy.

            No our side is winning because society is correctly recognizing that you are the bigots.

          • sumsrent

            Wrong… your side is winning because y’all are satanic…
            But know this… your day of reckoning is coming…

          • Billy.

            I really don’t care about your religious delusions.

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            Yes, you do else you wouldn’t be so involved here. Are you willinto bet the next … let’s say… 5,000 years of YOUR existence(or wishful lack thereof) that these are merely religious, blind idiotic delusions ?

          • Billy.

            Yes. In a heartbeat. I won’t exist for 5000 years and there is zero evidence of any supernatural deity.

          • Billy.

            It exposes the truth that the majority of society recognizes your bigotry for what it is,

          • sumsrent

            Tell me… when was the last time a bigoted homo was relieved of their position for hating on a Christian?
            Until you can answer that… it proves how much your wrong.

          • Billy.

            lmao you’re such an idiot you didn’t even consider the possibility that homosexuals don’t make bigoted remarks about Christians, or that there may be cases where non-famous people were fired and hence it didn’t make the news.
            Do try to think for at least a few seconds before you post.

          • sumsrent

            Oh yes they do!
            The Bigoted gays & Homos are always saying horrible things about Christians… aren’t you even listening to yourself?
            YOU are a prime example!

          • Billy.

            I’m not gay and I haven’t said anything about Christians that constitutes bigotry.

          • sumsrent

            Gays and Homos are bigots!
            They require those who oppose their behavior, lifestyle and thinking to be punished.

          • Billy.

            You want to oppress homosexuals based on your religious beliefs. You can bleat like a sheep that the homosexuals are the bigots but society in general knows that’s not true.

          • sumsrent

            Oh yeah… well we’re gonna start proving otherwise and expose the truth.
            Tell me… how many Homos have lost their jobs for speaking out against Christians? Hmmmm… seems there’s laws protecting Homos in the workplace… aye?

          • Billy.

            There’s no laws protecting homosexuals that don’t also protect Christians. Conversely Christians have rights in society that homosexuals do not have. The truth is being exposed now, hence the huge shift in society towards accepting gay equality and the current backlash against bigots like you.

          • Billy.

            And you want to punish them for their lifestyles by making them second class citizens. You’re the bigot.

          • sumsrent

            Now you’re exposing yourself as a liar!
            I’ve never said anything about punishing the bigoted homos… you know… the bigoted homos who want Christians to be punished!

          • Billy.

            You want homosexuals to be second class citizens with inferior rights to straight people. Homosexuals want equality, they do not want to punish Christians.
            I don’t know why you’re finding this so hard to understand but it’s pretty simple.

          • Billy.

            PS nobody cares about your stupid petition, it won’t achieve anything.

          • sumsrent

            That’s all you see in that comment?
            Selective aren’t ya?

          • Billy.

            I replied to the content of that post, it’s right below these posts, can you not read?
            It was a “PS” in response to your “PS”.

          • sumsrent

            Liar… you replied to the comment above… ignoring everything else.

          • Billy.

            You being unable to read does not make me a liar. As I said, I replied to the content of that post and it is right below these posts. Try looking one single post below this one, it’s not difficult.

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            And why all the studies nowadays … bcz they know thedecades of social engineering in order to FORCE supremacy of immorality ihas come to fruition!!! The numbers have grown by design. Are you personally Really Sure and Forever Convinced that these supposed Rights are REALLY more important than a more than cursory consideration of the Wide & Narrow Gates mentioned in the Bible?

          • Billy.

            There’s very little to me in this world that isn’t more important than the Bible. Your holy book doesn’t allow you to oppress others, you better get used to that concept because it’s most certainly not going away.

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            On this you’re spot-on.
            Not only it’s not going away, it’s heavily prophesied to get much worse.
            And see, your false statement elsewhere that u don’t care about our religiously bigoted beliefs,you have already exposed.
            You need a lot more practice in your devotion to the Bible as of highest priority to you… In your life quest to oppose it you will need to become more and more like your Master to keep your deceits hidden longer.
            And we know you and yours are here to make it much much worse… b4 it gets much much better for us who did not refuse the love of the truth.

          • Billy.

            Well I’m glad our side can help fulfill the prophesies of your religious beliefs. I can promise you we will certainly fulfill our role in making things “worse” from the fundamentalist Christian standpoint.

          • sumsrent

            You should be fired from your job for making such a comment!

          • Billy.

            Why? This isn’t a professional setting and my managers would not find that comment offensive or damaging.

          • sumsrent

            Of course… it’s the PC way of this satanic world.
            [Now play stupid again and act like you don't know what I'm saying.]

          • Billy.

            “Polls in 2013[edit]
            A September Quinnipiac University poll found that 56% of American adults and 57% of registered voters supported same-sex marriage. Only 36% of both groups were opposed.[13]
            A July 10–14 poll by Gallup found support for gay marriage at 54%, a record high, and double the support of 27% Gallup first measured when the question was asked in 1996.[14]
            A July poll by USA Today found that 55% of Americans supported gay marriage while 40% did not.[15]
            A May 9 Washington Post-ABC News poll found that 55% of Americans supported gay marriage while 40% did not.[16]
            A March 20–24 CBS News Poll found that 53% of Americans supported same-sex marriage, 39% opposed it, and 8% were undecided.[17] The same poll also found that 33% of Americans who thought same-sex couples should be allowed to legally marry said they once held the opposite view and had changed their opinion.
            A March 7–10 Washington Post-ABC News[18] poll found that 58% of Americans support same-sex marriage while 36% opposed. The poll indicated that 52% of GOP-leaning independents under 50 years old supported gay marriage.[19]
            A March Quinnipiac University poll of voters found 47% supported same-sex marriage and 43% were opposed.[20]”
            Shame what you believe doesn’t match up with reality.

          • sumsrent

            Supporting and caring less are two different things…

          • Billy.

            Well the polls find a majority support marriage equality. Your personal assumptions about whether people “care” or not when supporting marriage equality are irrelevant.

          • sumsrent

            Of course it matters… if they don’t specifically “oppose”… where do you think they’re counted?

          • Billy.

            I could just as easily assume that those who don’t specifically “support” same sex marriage are counted as opposing. You have nothing to back up your assumption.
            Furthermore if people don’t care, why are the polls showing a consistent change in opinion throughout the years towards supporting marriage equality?
            Back in 1996 only 27% of people supported same sex marriage. If people don’t “care” why are so many actively changing their opinions?

          • sumsrent

            “I could just as easily assume that those who don’t specifically “support” same sex marriage are counted as opposing.”
            Well… as you proudly and yet moronically display… your figures aren’t showing that. [duh]

          • Billy.

            Your assumption was no better than mine, that was the point, not that I actually believed that the counter assumption to be true.
            You really do have a learning difficulty don’t you?

          • sumsrent

            Not an assumption. If you’ve ever witnessed such surveys… that’s how they’re conducted. Especially when an agenda has to be fulfilled. And… your own words expose the truth.

          • Billy.

            It is absolutely an assumption. You have no evidence at all for your claim, just like every other claim you make.

          • sumsrent

            You’re denying the facts!
            Anyone with a sense of getting to the truth understands the basic principles used to tweak figures.

          • Billy.

            Your paranoia about polls being rigged by private companies with no motive to do so is not a “fact”.
            It’s an assumption that you have zero evidence for, just like everything you claimed to be “fact”.

          • sumsrent

            Denial… denial… denial… or… are you grasping at straws because you don’t have the ground to stand on?
            Hey… learn a trick… try the Islamic influenced “Google” and research the words… “Polling and Surveys are Tainted”… you’ll get thousands of hits.

          • Billy.

            I’m grasping at straws? Hold on I need to laugh for about 20 minutes.
            Your entire world view consists of a conspiracy that you have no evidence for and I’m grasping at straws? You may be the dumbest person on the entire Internet.
            The Islamic influenced google? Where do you come up with this crap?
            It’s not denial to reject the idea that private polling companies are risking their reputations to rig polls when not only do you have zero evidence that they’re influencing polls on same sex marriage but you can’t even come up with a basic coherent motive.

          • Billy.

            Why would a private polling company have a “gay agenda” anyway?
            Has anyone told you that you’re mentally ill before? Because it seems very likely you are, everything you don’t like is the fault of this mysterious agenda, you have no proof whatsoever but it’s always them and it’s always true! Get therapy.

          • sumsrent

            “Why would a private polling company have a “gay agenda” anyway?”
            Really??? You need me to answer that for you? Or… are you playing stupid again?
            Tell ya what… I’ve already explained in my other comments that’ll answer that question for you. You do comprehend what you’re reading don’t you? You seem to quickly insult others for the same reason. And yet you play the game…

          • MB

            Oh I believe your numbers. :)

            Enter the narrow gate, for wide is the gate, and broad
            is the way, that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter there. (Matt. 7:13)

      • Richard Savage

        Billy: for your information the British Government Office of National Statistics have for the past few years been conducting an annual survey in which over 500 000 questionnaires were sent out asking various questions to subjects such as sexual orientation. The results of the survey in which the staggering figure of 240 000 responses were received in the each of the past 4 years showed that the total percentage of the population who were homosexual, transgender or bi-sexual was under 1.4%, nowhere near the wild and exaggerated figures claimed by the homosexual lobby. The fact is that the homosexual population worldwide IS AN INSIGNIFICANT MINORITY undeserving of the attention it is getting.

        • Billy.

          This is misinformation Richard. British polls actually suggest 6% homosexuality in the UK, rising to 13% for those that have had same sex relations at some point.
          “While only six per cent of Britons define their sexual orientation as homosexual or bisexual, more than twice that number (13 per cent) of Britons have had some form of sexual contact with someone of the same sex.”
          According to an observer poll.

          • Richard Savage

            So an “observer” poll is more definitive and true than a massive government initiative done over several years and coming to the same conclusion each time? I presume your “observer ” is actually the far-left London weekend paper the Observer.

          • Billy.

            The Observer poll is one of many, that government initiative wasn’t “massive” either.
            Got to laugh at you calling the observer “far-left” while posting on a website that’s far, far, far further on the fringe than the centre-left Observer.

          • Richard Savage

            Wow! 240 000 respondents each year for over 4 years isn’t a massive reply?.You must be joking! compare that number with the pathetic number usually polled by groups such as the London Guardian and its sister Sunday paper The Observer where the number seldom makes it past the few thousand mark. Wake up fella you are living in cloud-cookoo land. I see even the leftist polling organisation PPP has admitted that the Duck Dynasty home state of Louisiana polled only 28% in support of homosexual “marriage”

        • Billy.

          There’s lots more studies that back my numbers, he’s the abstract from just one:
          “Researchers determining the prevalence of homosexuality in nationally representative samples have focused upon determining the prevalence of homosexual behavior, ignoring those individuals whose sexual attraction to the same sex had not resulted in sexual behavior. We examine the use of sexual attraction as well as sexual behavior to estimate the prevalence of homosexuality in the United States, the United Kingdom, and France using the Project HOPE International Survey of AIDS-Risk Behaviors. We find that 8.7, 7.9, and 8.5% of males and 11.1, 8.6, and 11.7% of females in the United States, the United Kingdom, and France, respectively, report some homosexual attraction but no homosexual behavior since age 15. Further, considering homosexual behavior and homosexual attraction as different but overlapping dimensions of homosexuality, we find 20.8, 16.3, and 18.5% of males, and 17.8, 18.6, and 18.5% of females in the United States, the United Kingdom, and France report either homosexual behavior or homosexual attraction since age 15. Examination of homosexual behavior separately finds that 6.2, 4.5, and 10.7% of males and 3.6, 2.1, and 3.3% of females in the United States, the United Kingdom, and France, respectively, report having had sexual contact with someone of the same sex in the previous 5 years. Our findings highlight the importance of using more than just homosexual behavior to examine the prevalence of homosexuality.”

      • 1twothree4

        Cite your source of the real number being 10% to 25% or STFU.

    • sumsrent

      Bigot: “a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)”

      Folks…
      THAT DEFINES THE ACTIONS OF GAYS AND HOMOS !!!

      You know… the bigoted gays and bigoted Homos who require those that oppose their behavior, lifestyle and thinking to be punished.

      Understand this…
      Phil of Duck Dynasty is being punished by the bigoted gays and bigoted homos!

      • Billy.

        A member of Duck Dynasty is being punished by a private sector company for making comments that reflect badly on the business. You the homophobic bigot can’t accept that because you hate gay people and need to blame them for duck mans stupidity.

        • sumsrent

          And once again… we’re back to the “What’s makes him stupid?”

          • Billy.

            I’ll tell you as soon as you admit that gay people did not fire stupid duck man, but a straight man after the decision was made by a private sector company.

          • sumsrent

            A&E explained its decision to suspend the star…

            “His personal views in no way reflect those of A&E Networks, who have always been strong supporters and champions of the LGBT community.”

            Now what does that tell you Mr. Simpleton?

        • sumsrent

          Star Magazine Deputy editor Matt Coppa:

          “A&E felt the pressure to do something.”

          And… where did that pressure come from?
          A: The bigoted degenerate Homos… who are bent on silencing free speech [the satanic Islamic way] and punishing those who expose their satanic immoral and sickening ways!

          These Christian Times Reports:
          “DID PHIL GET FIRED? ALL OUT NUCLEAR CULTURE WAR ON GOD AND DUCK DYNASTY”

          It says…

          “This is not the first time that issues have arisen between Phil and A&E about his faith. You may recall in an interview in April 2013, Phil Robertson told Sports Spectrum TV that A&E Network had attempted to cut mention of “Jesus” from the “Duck Dynasty” family prayer at the end of the show, but that he had protested and won. So if A&E cannot stop the prayer, then they go after the one who utters his love for the God who died for mankind. They found a way to silence him…”

          Too sad… how a mere 4% of the population can have such influence!

          • Billy.

            The pressure came from the public in general, not just homosexuals.
            Were you raped as a child? You have this odd need to blame anything and everything on gay people and I’m starting to worry that perhaps you were the victim of sexual abuse.

          • sumsrent

            Really?

            December 19,2013

            Moonbattery Reports”

            “A married, heterosexual gym teacher at a tony Upper West Side private school was fired because his lesbian supervisor disapproved of his “traditional family status,” the canned teacher claims in a new Manhattan lawsuit.”

            “He says three other married coaches with young children were also sacked. Kenney was replaced by a gay female, according to court papers.”
            Folks… Billy here wants you to think that the Bigoted Degenerate Homo lifestyle isn’t a threat…

          • Billy.

            Moonbattery reports?
            Do you have any respectable sources at all? I don’t care about your fringe nonsense blogs.

          • sumsrent

            In the sick freak show this society is being forced to become, men are no longer allowed to regard women as preferable to other men’s anuses as objects of sexual attraction.

          • Billy.

            That isn’t true. I’m straight and last I checked nobody’s forced me to have homosexual sex or told me I can’t prefer heterosexual sex.

          • sumsrent

            You have a reading problem? Or… a comprehension problem?
            Try again…

          • Billy.

            It’s definitely you that has the reading comprehension problem. Try reading the posts again slowly.

          • sumsrent

            Moonbattery also Reports:
            “For our liberal rulers, those at the top of the caste system of political correctness come first — and at the very top of that pyramid of phony victimhood are those so psychiatrically defective as to construct their personal identities around being sexual deviants. So it is no surprise the freakazoids comprising the “LGBT community” have been prioritized to get treated at other people’s expense under Obamacare:”
            And the agenda continues for the Bigoted Degenerate Homos…

          • Billy.

            And the gullibility of sumsrent to believe anything from absolutely anyone as long as it tells him what he wants to hear continues.

          • sumsrent

            You’re welcome to research it…

          • sumsrent

            Well… try this one out for size…

            “District Judge Alison] Austin issued a similar order Monday raising to $1 million the bond against Charles Dunnavant, identified as Herold’s domestic partner and suspected partner in the alleged crimes. Dunnavant faces charges including sexual torture, sodomy, aggravated child abuse and transmitting or exposing a person to a STD.

            Meanwhile, liberals continue to push for more homosexual adoption… The results of homosexual adoption have been exactly what any informed person would expect…”
            Billy… what were you saying about… “:in general”?

          • Billy.

            You do realize that heterosexual couples have also abused children right? By your own logic that means we need to ban heterosexual adoption as well.

          • Billy.

            Oh let me guess, every single respected source in the world is under the “homo agenda!” because sumsrent says so.

          • sumsrent

            Hmmmm…

          • sumsrent

            Apparently; the only sources you respect are the ones that fit your distinct Bigoted Degenerate Homo paradigm… aye?

          • Billy.

            I respect genuine established well respected news sites. There’s plenty out there I don’t much agree with because they lean right but I can still respect them and trust their articles. What I don’t respect are stupid blogs which you’ve obviously found desperately searching through the Internet to find anything that supports your far right-wing view. (I’m not sure I can call you right-wing, your insane delusions don’t fit anywhere in the political spectrum.)

          • Harvey Melton

            really lets put this thing to rest, evil is wrong in any form, good is right but exacts cost to maintain it in many ways therefore people are not readily into truth because truth convicts of wrongdoing evil does not.

          • sumsrent

            Tell the Bigoted Demented Homos and their brainwashed supporters to “put it to rest”.

          • Billy.

            Says a mentally ill bigot whose clearly been brainwashed by fundamentalist Christianity

          • sumsrent

            You hypocrite!
            You speak against Christianity… while opposing those who speak against the bigoted demented homo agenda!
            The difference in this world is obvious… hating Christianity is PC… hating the bigoted demented homo agenda is not PC.
            Now tell me… is that not satanic? Is it not the Islamic way of handling things? Of course they are.

          • BiIIy

            The “obvious” reality is that Christians are the majority group, a group who have been oppressing minority groups, such as homosexuals.

      • Nehemiah Scudder

        And exactly when did the homosexuals change the law and require that I as a heterosexual, ,have to change my preferred partner for one of the same gender. Nobody is trying to impose same sex marriage, or outlaw mixed gender marriage. There are however some bigots who are doing everything that they can to prevent a minority from having equal rights. Everybody has them, that’s why they are called “equal” and “rights”.
        Nobody is going to punish you if you choose not to marry somebody of the same gender, it’s just that you are no longer permitted to discriminate against those that do. Just like you are not allowed to discriminate against people who have red hair, or are left-handed, or have blue eyes
        I creates no detriment to the nature of my marriage, how somebody that I have never met arranges their concave or convex parts with their own partner in the privacy of their own marital bed.

        • sumsrent

          You say… “There are however some bigots who are doing everything that they can to prevent a minority from having equal rights.”
          MAYBE you haven’t been real attentive to the news lately… aye?
          Those minority bigot Homos are requiring people to be punished for simply expressing their beliefs in opposition!
          Is that the society you want!? Where freedom of speech is silenced?
          So then… who else can we add to that list of minorities? AT what point will you stand up and say… “WAIT!” That’s not the direction I want ‘equal rights’ to head!”
          How about sex with animals? Does bestiality move you to question equal rights for all? Can a human marry an animal? Be given tax breaks? Be expected to have a full wedding in a Church?
          Do you want your children and grandchildren learning about and practicing bestiality? Will you simply sit back and wait for that child to determine what gender of beats they select as a companion?
          Where will you draw the line?
          Will it be child sex and marriage?
          Will it be sex and marriage with the dead? With Tree huggers?
          With automobile lovers? Computer geeks that can’t live without their laptops? How ’bout blow up dolls? Vibrators?
          The list can be endless… so where would you draw the line?
          As for me… that line is already drawn.
          You’re just programmed to be more tolerable of satanism.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            There was a time when it was deemed illegal within some States for a white person and a black person to engage in sexual congress, or to marry, but the law changed. When the anti-miscegenation laws were repealed it became illegal for a hotel or motel to refuse admission to a married couple on the grounds of their mixed race. Nobody said that they had to like the new laws, they just weren’t permitted to try to enforce the old ones, even if they did prefer them. Mixed race marriages became legal, not compulsory.

            The point at which the line is drawn is very easy to recognise and define, and can be summed up in the two words “Informed consent”
            Can a small child give “informed consent” to sexual activity with an adult? No,
            Regardless the sexual orientation of the adult a child is not legally deemed able to give consent to sexual activity, Just as my infant children could not give informed consent to sex or marriage, neither can my pet cat, my budgie, my deceased grandmother, my car, the local bus, the tree that my neighbours dog cocks its leg against, While the basic design requirements could be grounds for assuming consent to sexual activity is granted by sex toys, as inanimate objects they cannot audibly or in writing agree to a contract of marriage.

            And no, I do not give any privilege to the worshippers of Satan

          • sumsrent

            Do you see the contradiction I n your words?

            You say… “Can a small child give “informed consent” to sexual activity with an adult? No,”

            Then add… “a child is not legally deemed able to give consent to sexual activity”
            Let me put it like this… Outside of you selectively using what is legal… that’s your programmed opinion. Facts and studies show otherwise… and the NAMBLA & muslims would certainly disagree with your statements.

            Care to try again? Because there’s no end to what the bigoted degenerate Homos agenda can lead to.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            The simple fact is that the majority of people in the USA now support same sex marriage legislation, with almost as many not caring one way or the other as are definitely opposed
            Your assertion that a pedophile organisation disagrees that pedophilia should remain illegal is as relevant as stating that most convicted murderers believe that murder should be legalised, or thieves think laws against theft should be repealed. The purpose of the law is to give you the freedom to do whatever does not infringe the freedom of others.
            Resisting bigotry and oppression is not in itself either bigoted nor oppressive. Nobody is trying to force you to turn queer, or interfering with your freedom to have sex with members of the opposite gender. You are simply being denied the privilege of being permitted to interfere with the private lives of others.

          • sumsrent

            “Nobody is trying to force you”
            Ah… yes they are!
            The bigoted degenerate homo’s are “trying to force” everyone to be silenced. And if you do express your opinion… they expect and want people to be punished for it.
            Are you paying attention?
            The bigoted degenerate homo agenda is paving the way for the satanic worshipping muslims to oppress and persecute those who speak out against satanic Islam.

          • Hazakim Mike-Tony

            What do Puerto Rico, Colombia, Dominican Republic, Trinidad, Honduras, Brazil, Morocco, Lybia, Tunisia, South Africa (coloureds) and Cape Verde all have in common? They are all nations, societies, cultures who owe their very EXISTENCE to a long history of so called “interracial marriage”. Now genius, please list a single nation or people who owe their existence to gay marriage…..better yet, please name a single civilization that has ever redefined marriage the way you do?

            You use one of the youngest nations on the earth (America), with it’s unique history of racial segregation & JIm Crowe to compare mixed marriages with HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE!?!? Are you kidding me? People of various colors and hues have been marrying and making babies since the begininning of time. Here are some undeniable facts to consider:

            1) A black person and white person of the opposite sex can create babies. This is impossible with homosexual and inter-species unions (outside of resorting to some new advanced science techniques which are really quite bizzare).

            2) The majority of the earth is middle brown (beige) in color. Black and white people simply create offspring whose phenotype and look are seen in the majority of the world.

            3) God condemns homosexual unions but AFFIRMED the union of Moses (a middle eastern Jew) and his black African Sudanese (very black) wife in Numbers 12 – and even judged Moses’ sibblings for their cultural elitist attitudes.

            Jim Crow south is NOT the history of this planet. Please don’t compare apples to pineapples. And as a man who is a blend of Middle Eastern, Italian, Jamaican, and Portugese roots, I take exception to your absurd comparison.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            The bigot from Duck Dysentery was born in a state where until 1967 they had what they called anti-miscegenation laws. These anti-miscegenation laws mean that as far as the law of his state was concerned, his countrys President has no right to be alive. This is the reason that so many Teapublicans believe that Obama cannot possibly be a “natural born American” totally ignoring the simple fact that Hawaii never had such a stupid set of laws.
            If you read the entirety of his comments you will find that his opinions on subjects of racial equality match his opinions on same sex marriage, or did you miss the bit about “Blacks being happier under Jim Crow” (His opinion, not mine)
            With a world population in excess of 7,000,000,000 (and set to double within fifty years)I think that we can afford to allow a few people to marry without the need to produce offspring, or do you think that people should not be permitted to marry unless one of them is pregnant.
            And NO, allowing same sex marriages will not open the floodgates to pedophilia or bestiality or any of the other idiocies that are routinely predicted, just as it failed to open these same floodgates when the anti-miscegenation laws were scrapped in America and South Africa as was predicted at the time.
            You state that your deity condemns homosexuality, but so what? Your deity is not everybodys deity, and your deity also condemns the eating of pork, the eating of shellfish, the eating of bats(which he thinks are a type of bird), and the wearing of mixed fabrics, while approving slavery, rape, incest, and genocide.
            Incidentally there is nothing in the New Testament condemning homosexuality, not even the much vaunted 1 Corinthians 6:9

            It was not the fact of legitimate mixed race marriage that I was comparing to the legalisation of same sex marriage, it was the web of lies that were and are used to oppose them both that are identical. Concerning you mixed race heritage, please accept my congratulations, you are, after all, far less likely to be inbred that somebody like Phil Robertson, and that can only be a bonus.

          • Hazakim Mike-Tony

            You obviously glazed over my previous post. Try your white liberal arguments elsewhere sir. I know and understand, as a man of color, that it was the white liberal that created the KKK, supported (and still endorse) the American eugenics movement and the genocidal Planned Parenthood (including Margaret Sanger’s “Negro Project”), and still endorses and promotes policies that are detrimental to the advancement of black Americans. Before the black American community climbed into bed with the white liberal (when they held to the conservative values of Booker T Washington), their communities were functional – with a mother & father in most homes, a community that valued education, controlled its own commerce, and children that were well behaved. It was after the 60s, when you white liberals wood them into allegiance with you (and bought off their leaders) that the social downward spiral began….so slavery cant be blamed for the current state of affairs (otherwise you must explain the regression since the 60s). I thin when you take Phils words in CONTEXT, this was his point (he even associated himself as “white trash – also a victim of white elitism). The black community was happiest when it was godly & conservative – before they pledged allegiance to the DNC slave master and the theory of victimology.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            Just out of curiosity, do you also mirror his support for pedophilia? or do you think sex with a fifteen year old is acceptable.

          • Hazakim Mike-Tony

            Hilarious to me how a bunch of morally agnostic darwinists – who promote a definition of marriage that has never existed anytime, anywhere – and a people who really feel that there is no objective right & wrong….all of a sudden become moral champions against an 18 or 20 year old boy marying a 16 year old girl. We go from being these accidentally evolved, random chance animals – no different that an ape or a snail, to these highly valued moral agents who must take a moral stand against 18 or 20 year old boys marrying 16 year old girls!?!? Why the sudden change of heart?

            Not to mention that pedophilia (man boy love and a fascination with “boyish” bodies) is deeply entrenched in gay culture and eroticism.

            Save me the homo self-righteousness Scudder….a 18 or 20 year old man marrying a female 2 or 4 years his junior is more natural that thrusting ones penis inside the delicate, hairy and unsanitary waste exit of another man. Good try but no cigar.

            Class dismissed. You may go now.

          • Hazakim Mike-Tony

            I would also like to add…older men marrying and making families with women who are younger than them has been happening since the beginning of time (as with so called “interracial marriage)….SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME! Please name us, however, a single culture that redefined marriage as two women or two men? I won’t hold my breath.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            The current population of this planet is in excess of 7,000,000,000. I do not think that we will go extinct if a few stop breeding. For all I know homosexuality could be a safety feature installed by Gaia to prevent us from drowning in our own waste product.

            As to the Judaeo-Christian myths consider how a brewer makes beer. He creates a perfect environment for the yeast (A yeastly garden of Eden) then adds a small amount of yeast (Adam and Eve?) and tells the yeast “Go forth and multiply, be fruitful and fill the vat.
            The brewer does not make beer for the benefit of the yeast

          • Ginger Martinez

            homosexuality has been happening even longer, as it has been proven to occur in the animal kingdom. so this is not a valid argument.

          • Ginger Martinez

            Domonic I cannot answer your comment as it is under moderation. So I will do it here. As your comment is beginning the religious aspect of this debate, let me first remind you, your religion is not everybody’s religion. So you believe the fall from grace is what is causing all of this “filth”. Well those of us that do not hold your opinion would rather not have that opinion be the basis of our laws. Or any religious rhetoric be the basis of our laws. the fall from grace and original sin are not a particularly common belief in many religions.

          • Ginger Martinez

            I am sorry, I misspelled your name, Dominic.

          • Ginger Martinez

            Changed definition to include same sex marriages..
            Freedom to marry dot com “Sixteen countries now have the freedom to marry for same-sex couples nationwide (Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Canada, South Africa, Norway, Sweden, Portugal, Iceland, Argentina, Denmark, France, Brazil, Uruguay, and New Zealand – plus Britain, which has passed a law that has not yet taken effect), while two others have regional or court-directed provisions enabling same-sex couples to share in the freedom to marry (Mexico and the United States). Many other countries provide some protections for such couples. As more and more countries and parts of the United States win the freedom to marry, we see that families are helped, and communities and countries made stronger, by protecting all loving committed couples.” (Last Updated: January 2014)

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            Strange, he didn’t look 18 in the video when he advocated that a men should marry 15 year old girls. This would primarily be in order to be able to maintain absolute control over them. If you wait for them to get old enough to now their own mind it may get expensive.

            “Not to mention that pedophilia (man boy love and a fascination with “boyish” bodies) is deeply entrenched in gay culture and eroticism.”

            I wouldn’t even pretend to know the first thing about “gay culture” and will defer to your greater experience. The closest contact that I have had with pedophilia was a few years ago when two girls who lived near my home were killed by a male abuser

            “Save me the homo self-righteousness Scudder….”

            Giving equal rights to gays will make absolutely no difference to me, or my wife. Are you really so insecure with your own sexuality that you need a law to keep you straight? Legalising same sex marriage will make absolutely no difference to me as I am already happily married in a heterosexual marriage, I just see no reason why outsiders including myself should be permitted to interfere with somebody else’s consensual relationship

          • Ginger Martinez

            Your argument is not logical. If we do not believe people that young are capable of joining the military, drinking, joining into a legal contract, how are they old enough and mature enough to marry. Hence, the reason we have statutory rape laws because they are not mature enough. Class reopened. you really need to think before you respond.

          • sumsrent

            “Opening the floodgates” is a bit dramatic… aye?
            We’ll just call it… “Sharia approved”… the satanic Islamic way.
            Considering the Islamic population on this earth is nearly 1/4th… and that satanic Islam already approves of such demented ways…
            PS… how dare you insinuate that these Sharia approved methods are “idiocies”! You hypocritical BIGOT! allah will have your neck for such words!

          • Alma

            Genius, I don’t want to spoil your fun, but Jesus DID say that MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN FOR LIFE. So much for your theory that “Jesus never said homosexuality is a sin”!! READ THE FACTS!! HERE IT IS!!
            Mark 10:5-9
            5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.

            6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

            7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

            8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

            9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            So when are you going to start a hate campaign against divorced people the way that you keep screaming about the queers?. Start by denouncing the theofascint hypocrite John Hogee, and work your way through them all.
            I would also add that the character “Jesus” predicted the end of the world “within the listeners lifetime” on more than occasion. Despite this, we seem to still be here and thriving.

          • Ginger Martinez

            just because they do not fit into your history, it does not mean the comparison is wrong. It is completely accurate that laws that exclude one segment of society are wrong. You must have equality, that is the basis of This country.

          • Harvey Melton

            personally for myself I draw the line where God draws the line, why? because it just makes sense, God is like that .

          • sumsrent

            Here’s more…

            Jan 8, 2014

            Moonbattery Reports:

            “A majority of [the 136 licenses so far approved to sell recreational marijuana] were issued to businesses in Denver with just eighteen city stores completing the process in time for opening day. One of those shops, Rite Greens, located on E. Colfax Ave in Denver, has taken the steps needed to accept food stamps (now called EBT cards) for the purposes of purchasing marijuana effectively leading to taxpayer funded marijuana for welfare recipients.

            “If you are a tax payer in Colorado, you get to pay for welfare recipients, a majority of whom are Democrats of course, to smoke pot now,” stated Denver resident Paul Horner. “Where will this all end? First it was Obamaphones, then Obamacare, now Obamaweed? Will we be paying for tattoos, manicures, body piercings, gay marriages and porn next?””

            ====================================
            I guess they can see how “:weed” is a food item… aye?

            Can’t ya see the excitement of the Bigoted Demented Minority Homo’s? Obama-marriages… It’s the Islamic way of doing things!

          • Ginger Martinez

            Consenting adults. The scenarios you mention are not two (or more) consenting adults.

          • Nelson Bridgford

            Seriously, your a fruit mate, lemme break it down for you right now.
            If a man has sex with a woman, he can gain clear consent.
            If a man has sex with another man, he can gain clear consent.
            If a woman has sex with another woman, she can gain clear consent.
            Automobile lovers, its an inanimate object and therefore no consent can or needs to be obtained.
            A blow-up doll is an inanimate object and therefore no consent can or needs to be obtained.
            A vibrator is an inanimate object and therefore no consent can or needs to be obtained.
            A “Tree hugger” doesn’t need the consent of a non sentient life form which you cannot have sex with anyway.
            As opposed to:
            If a somebody has sex with an animal, no clear consent can be given and the animal could be subject to physical and emotional harm.
            If a man has sex with a child then

          • sumsrent

            Scared? Not even a factor…
            The point… which you missed… is that anyone can claim to be a minority and lines will have to be drawn.
            You make valid reasons for where those lines should be drawn…
            But… others of us draw that line before you do.
            Based upon the demented thinking of sex crazed retards! The azzhole is a sewage pipe. Designed to spit out shyt… not to take in penis’s.
            Besides… satanic worshipping muslims have a strong argument that children are capable of consent, fully aware of the situation and far from being emotionally harmed.
            Maybe you haven’t heard… some of the biggest complaints coming from these young muslim brides is… old, nasty, dirty, stinking, smelling, physically abusing [as in beating for not behaving], wrinkled up, gross men.
            The problem with all you Bigoted Demented Homos is that y’all want everyone to accept your drawn lines… ignoring the fact that anyone can redraw the line anywhere with just a valid arguments.
            Face the fact… The Bigoted Demented Homosexual lifestyle’s position is nothing compared to what can come next.

      • Ginger Martinez

        actually no it doesn’t. It describes the people who are hateful to a particular group, in this case LGBTQ. Not being compassionate to your hate and prejudice does not make us bigots. Nehemias comment below says the rest beautifully.

    • sumsrent

      My apologies to the Walid Shoebat Ministries for the bogarting of this topic with the Christianphope>>> Billy>>> who supports the Bigoted Degenerate Homosexual agenda.

      • Billy.

        Christianphobe? My Christian wife sure will be surprised to hear that new made up word to describe me.
        Not everyone’s as much of a mindless bigot as you and duck man sumsrent.

        • iprazhm

          Homosexual Christian, is an oxymoron. The two are diametrically opposed. It is an impossibility.
          You can lie about it all day long but logic still dictates that you are a mentally ill piece of dung who can’t get to hell fast enough.

          • midwestMad

            You are wrong. Homosexual behavior is the sin. God loves the homosexual. He hates the sin. There are homosexuals that are Christians. Who are you to say otherwise? Who are you to say it is impossible? God put the desire for being close to him in every heart.

          • iprazhm

            I didn’t say that God hates homosexuals. I said they are not Christian.

          • Nelson Bridgford

            You have a very balanced attitude, and this is coming from an atheist.

          • Billy.

            Why do you idiots think you get to decide who is or isn’t a real Christian? Nobody cares whether or not you personally recognize them as Christian or not you delusional moron.

          • iprazhm

            It is not I who dictates, but Christ. You have a problem with His definition, take it up with Him.

            Matthew 12:48-50
            But he replied to the man who told him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And stretching out his hand toward his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”

            1 John 2:23.
            Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.- King James Bible “Authorized Version”, Cambridge Edition

          • BiIIy

            I don’t see anything there saying a homosexual can’t be a true Christian.

          • iprazhm

            You can’t be a Christian unless you follow the teachings and mandates of Christ, as his disciples did. They taught that homosexuality is an abomination and a sin. If you believe that homosexuality is not a sin nor an abomination then you are opposed to Christ’s teachings, ie Christ himself.
            You cannot be opposed to Christ and be a Christian.

          • BiIIy

            I don’t recall seeing anything about Christ himself teaching that homosexuality is an abomination and a sin.

          • http://sez33.com/ Bruce Card

            Billy, Christ came to deliver us from sin, He says to be Holy as the Father is holy. Scripture speaks in depth about immoral behavior. Rom.1:27 Also, Mat.19:12 “For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.”

            Yes God means that even losing an eye, or hand or any limb, is better than going to hell. Our life is a “passing vapor” compared to eternity. My heart goes out to you, but do not deceive yourself, living is a serious matter. We must set aside all sin which so “easily beset” us. See my pic? Please visit the site. Our time is very short.

          • BiIIy

            Ok well I still don’t see anything from Christ on the topic of homosexuality in that post but thanks anyway. I won’t be visiting your site though as personally I believe in neither God nor Hell.

          • http://sez33.com/ Bruce Card

            Billy thanks for replying, you sound very reasonable. The man who told me that first scripture, himself dealt with that burden. The verse he read “you must be born again”. I’ll never forget it.
            I was a 19 tr.old x-sgt. from guess what, he a troubled x-brother in law. Standing in the road in Oak Way ln. Sleepy Hollow CA. in 1970. How could I ever condemn him? He was working out his own salvation “with fear and trembling”, and ministering to me too. We all have serious issues, living is a life & death struggle. The war in Heaven, the war on earth. The social/moral war for the hearts of mankind. the political war of nations with Israel at the center. There is a lot going on. We have been thrown a Life line, taking us out of the turmoil created by Adams failure, into Jesus’ sacrifice for us to repair that failure, supernaturally. Born again from Adam, into Christ, we all have sinned physically. Now by confessing Christ we are lifted out of death, Luk.22:44 into a new life in Him. We can’t take anything with us, even to the point of hating, yes hating our earthly mother and father Luk.14:26. There is no gender in Heaven. Everything is new, Col.1:6 He is our Shepherd. Did He want to do this for us? (I love this question for some reason) Did Jesus want to die for us? HELL NO! And why does God love Him, why, does God love Him? Because He obeyed Him and did it anyway Jn.10:17.
            Billy, haven’t you ever held a little kitten, or watched a baby bird just out of the nest for the first time? He has made Himself plainly seen in nature (before the fall preferably). I had to lay down my own hate and anger at the world. We, you, have some hard decisions to make. Eternity is a long time, choose wisely my friend. If you wrote me from the bottom of that web site, you would be the first one.

          • Alma

            I don’t want to spoil your fun, but Jesus DID say that MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN I don’t want to spoil your fun, but Jesus DID say that MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN FOR LIFE. So much for your theory that “Jesus never said homosexuality is a sin”!! READ THE FACTS!! HERE IT IS!!
            Mark 10:5-9
            5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.

            6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

            7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

            8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

            9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. FOR LIFE. So much for your theory that “Jesus never said homosexuality is a sin”!! READ THE FACTS!! HERE IT IS!!
            Mark 10:5-9
            5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.

            6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

            7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

            8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

            9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

          • BiIIy

            Still nothing where Jesus directly calls homosexuality a sin. Try again.

          • Alma

            Funny how you people have a double standard. All the 33 states that have passed laws defining marriage between one man and one woman are being called “gay bans”, when they’re ONLY defining marriage. Jesus says the same thing and YOU still say it’s not good enough. Like it or not, Jesus is AGAINST gay marriage because he defined it as between ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN. Proof is staring at you in the face, yet you refuse to accept it. By saying this Jesus IS saying that gay marriage is a sin, because there’s no such thing:
            5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.

            6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

            7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

            8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

            9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

          • Ginger Martinez

            If that is your basis of saying homosexuality is a sin , then not marrying anyone is also a sin.

          • Alma

            That shows how much YOU know. NOTHING! The Bible does NOT condemn NOT getting married. The Apostle Paul covers that topic 1 Corinthians 7.
            1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

            2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

            3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

            4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
            5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

            6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.

            7 For I would that all men were even as I myself(not married). But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
            8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.

            9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
            25 Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.

            26 I suppose therefore that this is good for the present distress, I say, that it is good for a man so to be.

            27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.

            28a But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned.
            The Bible doesn’t condemn anyone for marrying or for NOT getting married! What IS sin is ANY SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE, adultery(sex between 2 people with anyone OTHER THAN THEIR SPOUSE), fornication (sex between 2 UNMARRIED persons). And the other types like homosexuality and bestiality is called PERVERSION. Just like this article above quotes. And there’s even more scripture passages that talk about this. And, no, it is NOT my opinion, it’s what the Word of God says!! So you’ll have to take it up with Him, Ginger Martinez!!

          • Ginger Martinez

            The passage you quoted Mark 10:5-9 says that people should marrying says nothing about not marrying or homosexuality. Then based on your logic, if one is a sin so is the other.

          • Ginger Martinez

            6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.

            Which of these chapters are quotes from Jesus?

            6 I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7 I wish that all men were as I am. But each man has his own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that. 8 Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. 9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion. 10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife. 12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. 15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let him do so. A believing man or woman is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. 16 How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife? 17 Nevertheless, each one should retain the place in life that the Lord assigned to him and to which God has called him. This is the rule I lay down in all the churches. 18 Was a man already circumcised when he was called? He should not become uncircumcised. Was a man uncircumcised when he was called? He should not be circumcised. 19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God’s commands is what counts. 20 Each one should remain in the situation which he was in when God called him. 21 Were you a slave when you were called? Don’t let it trouble you–although if you can gain your freedom, do so. 22 For he who was a slave when he was called by the Lord is the Lord’s freedman; similarly, he who was a free man when he was called is Christ’s slave. 23 You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men. 24 Brothers, each man, as responsible to God, should remain in the situation God called him to. 25 Now about virgins: I have no command from the Lord, but I give a judgment as one who by the Lord’s mercy is trustworthy.26 Because of the present crisis, I think that it is good for you to remain as you are. 27 Are you married? Do not seek a divorce. Are you unmarried? Do not look for a wife. 28 But if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. But those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this. 29 What I mean, brothers, is that the time is short. From now on those who have wives should live as if they had none; 30 those who mourn, as if they did not; those who are happy, as if they were not; those who buy something, as if it were not theirs to keep; NIV

            Seeme the only passage here he claims is from Jesus in 11. Alll else seems to be his opinion.

          • Ginger Martinez

            Sorry I still don’t see where Jesus spoke of homosexuality being a sin. Even if he did, how can anyone insist everyone else live by the Bible? This is not a Christian nation. There is no official religion: therefore people who are not Christians do not need to live by those laws. There should be no laws based on any religion. Period.

          • Ginger Martinez

            That argument “proves” at least as far as the Bible can prove anything, that gays are born gay. Thanks for the support of equality.

          • AmericanJesusBR

            So Methodists aren’t Christians then?

          • ColonelNeville

            Actually you can be an individual homosexual and a Christian…a flawed sinning Christian, as we all are, but one nonetheless. Of course you have to be willing to WANT to leave the lifestyle at some point. But yes, one CAN’T be a radical activist homosexual and be a Christian. The radical has only one aim and that is to destroy Christianity. No, really.

      • Billy.

        Hey idiot, I hope stupid duck man hasn’t distracted you from some real leftist victories, namely same sex marriage now being legal in New Mexico and Utah. Two states in two days bitch, deal with it.

        • beowulf32

          Yea well when America has this American spring like Egypt did, girly boys like you wont be calling anyone a bitch, one to the head and a double Tap to the heart. Lock and Load.

          • Ginger Martinez

            Do you really believe killing activists is going to help your cause? That is backward thinking. As well as Assault.

          • AmericanJesusBR

            You got that wrong. Head shots are double tap.

        • ColonelNeville

          Ah, “real leftist victories” eh, that would be making Jew hatred and Hamass love fashionable again… YOU are a mob minded nihilist fraud. No, really.

          • Nelson Bridgford

            Ok, posting 9 comments in rapid fire will not make you any more right or me anymore wrong, kay? I’m more than happy to base my morals on a provable doctrine of peer reviewed theorems. How you can even ask me that when you base yours on a 2000 year old book of fairy tales that hasn’t got the tiniest jizz spurt of evidence to back it up and actively calls for the oppression of huge groups of people is quite frankly beyond me. Please explain to me how my belifs, which you know basically nothing about ,except for I think god is just as provable as Atlantis, are linked inexorabley to Christian thinking, because that was something that you failed to do. Conformist? Is a Christian calling me a conformist? don’t make me laugh, you Christo, shit munching bible belters are the biggest group of conformists going. You are intolerant of anyone that you don’t agree with and believe in their removal, like the gays, and you are conforming to a list of not exactly rules that were envisoned 2000 years ago. Im conforming hmm? I also get the feeling that you have subverted your ability to have an argument without making it more about making me sounding wrong than your arguments sounding right. Its a pretty big problem with all of you right wingers in America.

          • ColonelNeville

            Riiiight, so your best and most brilliant fact free response that you can er, rouse, is nothing more than an astoundingly self-unaware ironic series of bigotry and contradictions. One long, beyond belief, laughable yet ugly and witless dissonant logical fallacy of projecting, emotional, narcissistic hatred and gross immaturity – and proving everything I observed about you and more. Got it.

            In fact you’re nitwittery is worthy of far worse than even my best empirical insults. I get it. Like most mass produced ugly stunted juniour twits indoctrinated by atheist leftists since birth, your mind cannot be saved. My knowledge and understanding is no match for your mega swollen hubristic sub mediocre wilful ignorance. If ever a lost soul needed the grace of God and Jesus, you would be it.

            Sadly, spineless boy, and to really get your ineffective emotions bubbling, I’m an Irish Catholic Boondocks Saints kind of lad, no really, and in person instead of online anonymity, we roll up jelly fish like you with one hand while making a toast with the other.

            To wit: “And Shepherds we shall be For thee, my Lord, for thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand Our
            feet may swiftly carry out Thy commands. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee And teeming with souls shall it ever be. In Nomeni Patri Et Fili Spiritus Sancti.”

            You’ve got nothing I want bucko, and you’ve got nothing I need. Carry on, Dawkins towel boy. Toodle ooh. No, really.

          • ColonelNeville

            Simply put, you don’t read, possess not a shred of curiosity, authenticity or maturity and are incapable of reason. You are a sadly typical indoctrinated since birth junior atheist leftist. No, really.

          • Nelson Bridgford

            “As per the strawman among many of “oppression of huge groups of people”…you forgot any actual focus, quotes or evidence of what you are scatter gun babbling about” well let me clear that up for you with a little quote from Leviticus 20:13: “If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.” That pretty much sounds like Christians believe in killing them for being gay, which counts as oppression man. I never said anything about conservatives my friend, I said Bible belters like you, and if you want some evidence that the Bible supports the oppression of gays, see my point above. Now as it happens you have cunningly ignored every single point I had because arguing with these points would make you seem foolish. All this dribbling nonsense about me not reading and me not being authentic or curious, to me is just you screaming at the top of your lungs “I am incapable of reasoned debate and am going to spew a stream of nearly incoherent bibble at you, to cover up the fact that my reply’s have very little sustenance” And me as an Atheist, I don’t give a shit what fantastical, untrue nonsense you want to believe to give you hope that death isn’t the end. When your imaginary friend starts to oppress REAL people Ive got a problem.

            “The rest of your chronic relentless mediocrity is one endless laughably dissonant emotional posturing fraud as you pick up random pet causes and use them like the opportunist atheist and homosexual activist left always do. Then drop them just as quickly when they are no longer useful” an entire paragraph that added no sustenance to your argument, and just decrying me, do yourself a favour and try actually adding some arguments into this stream of autonomous drivel.
            I believe what I do as I said because all the peer reviewed evidence that is collated between scientists of actual repute and ratified by the scientific community. But fuck it what is science anyway, its only a fair and accurate way of measuring and documenting our world in a controlled way. Its got nothing on your “mindless superstition” which brought us great things like the Crusades and the Inquisition, the Witch hunts and the Hutu/Tootsie civil wars, and Muslims destroying 5th century statues and bombed abortion clinics. Your idea still sound good? Or are you meat headedly going to ignore the points from this comment and the one before. Have a nice day man x

          • ColonelNeville

            You said “..as an Atheist, I don’t give a shit”. Deep! Profound! Inspiring! Wow! Your superior atheist tolerance for dissent and warmth as you scattergun strawmen and ad hominems ad hoc – has won me over! Quick! get me to the current truth re-education camp pronto! You really, really love me! No, really.

          • ColonelNeville

            Now READ ALOUD what you have written and tell me honestly of it’s er, merits as a persuasive polemic and whether it would win anyone over – or even you – to the tolerance and lovefest that is militant atheism. No, really.

          • ColonelNeville

            Astoundingly self unaware, crude, shallow bigotries, contradictions and other baseless narcissistic grossly immature logical fallacy straw man, ad hominem, circular drivel – proving everything I have observed about you, and much more. Bravo. You DON’T read, possess not a shred of curiosity, maturity or authenticity and are incapable of reasoned thought.

            You drooled “I’m more than happy to base my morals on a provable doctrine of peer reviewed theorems”. Then you may be a seriously ill nitwit. What could such bizzarro random crud even mean in reality? After zero, a vacuum of a nullity paraded as a meaningful guide to nowhere.

            As per the strawman among many of “oppression of huge groups of people”…you forgot any actual focus, quotes or evidence of what you are scatter gun babbling about.

            As for your “removal of gays” strawman, er, another baseless evidence free load of balls. Conservatives are FIRSTLY for the liberty of all individuals over the tyranny of the group and the over reaching state. That includes tyrannies like radical homosexual activist movements that hate any individual including homosexuals, who dissent from their totalitarianism.

            The atheist left despise individuals especially dissenting ones and always use preferred groups and destroy all those not of those groups useful to their agenda.

            The rest of your chronic relentless mediocrity is one endless laughably dissonant emotional posturing fraud as you pick up random pet causes and use them like the opportunist atheist and homosexual activist left always do. Then drop them just as quickly when they are no longer useful.

            You forgot to post a single empirical sourced reason for why you believe what you do [apart from your apparent atheist leftist indoctrination since birth or teens] and why I should care. You are sub par and simply not very good at all. No, really.

        • ColonelNeville

          Have you ever considered that not ALL homosexuals think the same and not ALL homosexuals are radical mass movement atheist nihilist to treasonous drones? Many homosexuals are thinking and moral individuals. The GREAT Gaypatriot net comes to mind. No, really.

        • ColonelNeville

          And they say many homosexuals are shallow, narcissistic and bitchy. Never! Er, yes. No, really.

        • ColonelNeville

          When you call those whom you DEMAND MUST agree with you completely, “idiot…bitch…stupid fuck… ” ad nauseum, WHY should we listen to you at all and not see you as the radical nihilist atheist left pervert threat you clearly are? No, really. Why should we give a damn about you whatsoever – and instead not go with most sane adults first reaction which is that you are merely a repellent vile little misfit mobster? No, really.

      • ColonelNeville

        Dear ‘sumsrent’…I accidentally posted a negative comment to you about a month ago. Apologies, Colonel Neville. Duck Fan.

        • sumsrent

          Thank you for saying so… I must’ve not given a second thought about it… because I don’t remember it.

    • Goten Son

      Why do you lump transgender people in with the gays?

      • sumsrent

        Silly you…
        In order to make the numbers in support of the Bigoted Demented Homo agenda appear larger… the Bigoted Demented Homo’s “lump” it in all together.

        • Goten Son

          Silly Yourself for a change…

          How can people like you put down minorites and at the same time back big capitalist corporations that produce hormone disrupting pesticides that cause frogs and even people to be transgender? That doesn’t even touch on the autism vaccine connection or the study in Europe that links feeding GMO food to tumors in lab rats.

          PS… I think it makes the greedy corporations that benefit from bigoted people putting down minorities. A sense of scapegoating… [Psst...moneys the word]

    • ColonelNeville

      I bet the virtually invariably atheist left pro homosexual activism commenters reflex hatred is not just reserved for us – but for any individual who happens to be homosexual and dissents from the ‘gay’ agenda party line. No, really.

      • sumsrent

        ARE YOU GAY? READ THIS>>>

        Colonel… Good point…
        Years ago I had this fella come to me, in private, telling me how he had this big crush on this young nlady who was convinced she was gay and had to be with women only.
        I told him… just because she had engaged in homosexual activities doesn’t mean she is a gay Lesbian.
        The story… They ended up getting married, have several children and have been together for years. I haven’t seen them in awhile… but the last I did…they were no different than any other happily married young couple.

        Folks… Understand this… you are NOT gay if you had one, two or several encounters of sex with someone of the same sex.

        That doesn’t make you gay!

        So the thing I do when converting Homosexuals is first convince them that they are NOT gay!

        Get them to see that when they were involved with the same sex at one time or another, this does NOT mean they’re gay! They just had an unnatural sex drive and that they can defeat it if they choose to.

        If they want to… because it’s their thinking… and their “wants”.

        I ask them straight up… “What do you want!?”

        And interestingly… when they seriously stop and think about it… their instinct is to do away with homosexual activities.

        Most always they realize how disgustingly sick it is to be gay.
        If they want to… they can quit the desire which drives them. They just have to change their “wants”… like any other addict.

        And it works! Believe me…

        • ColonelNeville

          I’m not gay myself as I could never afford the decor, but I concur and thanks for the very insightful and thoughtful response. Yes, I believe you are entirely right and I may use that line of consideration on the next person I meet who believes they are somehow ‘gay’ for life. Living in the inner-city as I rather sadly do, the chances are rather high of meeting more people of the ‘fabulous!’ persuasion. And again, sorry about accidentally posting a mistaken negative comment to your handle.

          No, really.

          • sumsrent

            My apologies… I didn’t mean to look as if I was referring to you as gay… I see my error…
            I began the reply to you and then got carried away writing to all the other folks who might read this down the road…
            And then thought that it might be a good idea to grab the attention of gays to read this by putting bold words on top.
            Kinda of a three stage process…
            I guess I sandwiched you in the middle of it all… lol
            At any rate… I love your humor and… you’re very kind… thanks.

          • ColonelNeville

            No apologies needed. I read it just as you have explained. It was just my little conceit to get an easy laugh. Cheap I know. And if I was gay, I would have taken your advice n’ repented already! But before I did, I’d get the interior decorating down and a new wardrobe. They say wide plaid checks are coming back in. Hey hey. All the best to you, Sir Sumsrent. No, really.

          • sumsrent

            I gave ya the thumbs up and thought about your earlier comment…

            I think you summed it up best…

            ” ‘gay’ for life”… is the thinking we need to address.

  • Billy.

    Hey Walid you gigantic moron, can you please confirm that there’s never ever been a case of a heterosexual couple abusing children? If not that drivel about one couple of abusive homosexual parents somehow being evidence for wider abuse doesn’t hold any weight does it?

  • http://yahoo.com/ DustyFae

    Christians seem to be losing the Freedom of Speech but homosexuals have the freedom of speech, the laws are not working for everyone.. and l personally find it kind of strange that homosexuals uses the color of a rainbow when it is the symbol of a God given vow to the Christians…Go figure that one… what are they saying that God is on their side… but they know deep in their hearts that God is against this , l guess that is why the homosexuals want to war against Christians… Homosexuals in the Bible are called sodomites .. and God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for that reason.. Do they think that God has changed his mind,, when we all know that God is the same yesterday,today and forever..

    • Halou

      You’re losing your freedom of speech, because contrary to reality, this article does not actually exist, and DustyFae is now being forcefully deported to a ‘re-education’ camp in the Dominican Republic.

      • http://yahoo.com/ DustyFae

        lol…l will have lots of company…

    • Billy.

      God doesn’t exist.

      • http://yahoo.com/ DustyFae

        You have the right to believe this..But God is in my life..

        • Billy.

          Personal claims to know God are the weakest “proofs” of all the flawed arguments for Gods existence. If I told you The Easter Bunny was “in my life” would you believe it was real?

          • http://yahoo.com/ DustyFae

            I know God is in my life… and a easter bunny is a pagan belief… True Christians do not believe in this as a Christian Holiday… And to be honest, they really do not believe Christ was born on Dec 25th… Do you even know what a Christian is…?

          • Billy.

            I know God isn’t in your life beyond your delusion of him.
            By the way why do you people think you get to decide who is and isn’t a “true” Christian?

          • http://yahoo.com/ DustyFae

            We do not decide that, that is something we can not do… It is not in us to say who is or isn’t a Christian.

          • Billy.

            So why are you announcing what “true” Christians believe then?

          • http://yahoo.com/ DustyFae

            Some who think or say they are Christians are not really following the laws of God, we are all sinners, but still some fail to do what God ask of us, we pray for the sinners and repent of our sins,

    • Nehemiah Scudder

      You are not losing your freedom of speech, you are losing the privilege to persecute that you have enjoyed for the last seventeen hundred years. There is a difference

  • docrt925

    …a peace activist.

  • mollybee

    I recommend a book ‘A Freedom too far’ by by Charles W. Socarides who studied homosexuality for over 40 years, with the intention of discovering whether homosexuals were that way through genetics or through psychological problems. He was not against homosexuals and did much for gay rights. Read it Billy, you might learn something from an expert in his field instead of writing such hateful bile.

  • arley_barley

    Keep squawking, Duck, and walking, like a Bible Duck, because, you/we are Bible-Ducks. AMEN

  • Halou

    Using the crimes of just two men to advocate for the criminalizing, and possible killing of an entire section of society. Interesting precedent you’re setting. How many members of the Catholic priesthood have been convicted of similar offences towards children? Yet nobody with a sane mind would call for Catholicism to be declared illegal as a result. Nobody calls for the near universal execution of Catholics as a result.
    Of course, whereas Catholics and everyone else are granted the right to life by default, gay people must beg to be gifted the “special right” of not being killed en masse.

  • Kafir911

    Go Phil! PLEASE do not cave like our esteemed politicians.

  • cracker

    billy really makes the case when i say if you dont agree with the homosexuals they will then throw insults call you names anything to degrade you run your religion down but its alright for them to believe or not to believe …lol yeah ,,right

    • Billy.

      I’m not a homosexual. Regardless this “why won’t you tolerate my intolerance!” argument is just whiny bs. Christians are more than happy to oppress others, as soon as they begin to get criticized however they for some reason don’t like it as much. I wonder why?

      • ComradeJ

        not baking you a cake is oppression? oh ok… lol

        • Billy.

          Cool response. Maybe next time make it at least a little relevant to my post?

          • ComradeJ

            “Christians are more than happy to oppress others”

            You don’t read what you post? Just copy and paste?

          • Billy.

            What did that post have to do with cakes exactly?

          • ComradeJ

            Oh… s/he’s all ignorance and innocence about the case of “oppression” of gays by Christians in CO, aka not baking them a cake.,

        • docrt925

          you’re right! it’s not oppression. it is discrimination.

          • ComradeJ

            so now you changing nics to dig yourself out? It is “oppression” according to a number of homosexuals I spoke with. So please stop twisting in the wind.

            Refusing to sell a product based on one’s conscience is in grounded in the First Amendment.

            Neither it is a “discrimination” as the baker would likely make a birthday cake for either of those “victims”.

            But thank you for displaying the “you don’t agree with me, it’s discrimination” stupidity.

  • ComradeJ

    Fighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we
    are going to do with marriage when we get there — because we lie that
    the institution of marriage is not going to change, and that is a lie.

    “The institution of marriage is going to change, and it should
    change. And again, I don’t think it should exist. And I don’t like
    taking part in creating fictions about my life. That’s sort of not what I
    had in mind when I came out thirty years ago.

    - homosexual activist Marsha Geesen 11 June, 2012

  • richinnameonly

    The LGBT mob wants everyone to condone their lifestyles and not criticize them for any reason and from any basis. Anything less than that they construe as “hatred” or “phobia”. We know their lifestyle has been around forever in minority numbers, but can see them now “pushing the envelope” further and further during this time of liberal tolerance. In fact, they don’t even want an “envelope”. It’s just, “Let us do whatever we want and shut up about it. We don’t agree with right or wrong, especially your version”. Now we have “confused” boys using the girls restrooms thanks to liberal politicians.
    To we who see the beauty of Gods complementary design of women and men, there is an understanding of the role of humans according to logic and religion. To the LBGT people sexual inflammation without boundaries is more important.
    God will sort this out in the end. I don’t think we will have to wait a long time.
    If I was part of the Duck Dynasty family I’d wave goodbye to A&E.

    • Billy.

      There’s nothing logical or reasoned about your religion or it’s bigotry. Hence why the majority of Americans now support same sex marriage.

      • ComradeJ

        that quite an ad hominem you christophobe you… lol

        • Billy.

          Sorry you lost the culture war…. lol

          • ComradeJ

            Ad Hominem, followed by… a red herring, brilliant! I am waiting with a bated breath for another “logical and tolerant” utterance from you. RONFL

          • Billy.

            I’m glad you find losing he culture war so funny. I too had many laughs when Obama was reelected in a landslide.

          • ComradeJ

            I am glad you did. Where is Bambi now? Lower than Bush… lol

            Strangely most Americans are not cool with Gaystapo forcing Christian baker to go against beliefs. But you keep telling yourself that you won the culture war along with spitting out your red herrings and ad hominems. You are one of the best players on our team.

          • Billy.

            Lower than Bush? Obamas current approval rating is far higher than what Bush finished with.
            Most Americans also support marriage equality according to the polls.
            “A September Quinnipiac University poll found that 56% of American adults and 57% of registered voters supported same-sex marriage. Only 36% of both groups were opposed.[13]
            A July 10–14 poll by Gallup found support for gay marriage at 54%, a record high, and double the support of 27% Gallup first measured when the question was asked in 1996.[14]
            A July poll by USA Today found that 55% of Americans supported gay marriage while 40% did not.[15]
            A May 9 Washington Post-ABC News poll found that 55% of Americans supported gay marriage while 40% did not.[16]
            A March 20–24 CBS News Poll found that 53% of Americans supported same-sex marriage, 39% opposed it, and 8% were undecided.[17] The same poll also found that 33% of Americans who thought same-sex couples should be allowed to legally marry said they once held the opposite view and had changed their opinion.
            A March 7–10 Washington Post-ABC News[18] poll found that 58% of Americans support same-sex marriage while 36% opposed. The poll indicated that 52% of GOP-leaning independents under 50 years old supported gay marriage.[19]”
            Math is hard huh?

          • ComradeJ

            You copying is pasting mid year poll is Math RONFL

            According to a new Washington Post/ABC News poll, Obama’s
            approval rating stands at 43 percent, an 11-point drop from the
            same point last year. The poll found that 55 percent of Americans
            disapprove of the president’s performance, a sharp rise compared
            to 42 percent last year.

            December 18, 2013 16:4

          • Billy.

            “President Bush will leave office as one of the most unpopular departing presidents in history, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll showing Mr. Bush’s final approval rating at 22 percent.

            Seventy-three percent say they disapprove of the way Mr. Bush has handled his job as president over the last eight years.

            Mr. Bush’s final approval rating is the lowest final rating for an outgoing president since Gallup began asking about presidential approval more than 70 years ago.”

          • ComradeJ

            What part of “now” did you not understand? LOL, not only math is hard, reading is hard huh?

            Bambi is currently under Bushy, and there is no end in sight…

          • Billy.

            Obama is currently well above Bushs final approval rating. Sorry that reading is so hard for you.

          • ComradeJ

            RONFL… you positively a projecting issue

            “According to a new Washington Post/ABC News pol

            :What’s more, Obama’s approval rating is even lower than President George W. Bush’s at this point in his presidency. By the end of Bush’s fifth year in office, roughly 47 percent of Americans approved of his performance, four points more than Obama currently enjoys. Of all post-World War II presidents, only
            President Richard Nixon faced worse numbers at this point in his
            second term – a brutal 29 percent thanks to the damaging
            Watergate scandal.”

            Published time: December 18, 2013 16:48

          • Billy.

            “Where is Bambi now, lower than Bush”
            You never said “at this point in Bushs presidency” did you?
            “RONFL….you positively a projecting issue.”
            More incoherency. Sentences are hard huh?

          • ComradeJ

            Apparently, it depends on your interpretation of the word ‘now’.

            You even posted the sentence in question. Can you get more desperate?

          • Billy.

            So your interpretation of the word “now” applies to Bushs poll numbers from years ago? Rather than his latest ones which would be most relevant to “now”?
            Words are hard huh?

    • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

      Well written and logical. Philosophy without logic is just sophistry.

  • cracker

    and then theres that.. the ole stereotyping ..lol we all tolerate you or else you wouldnt be here lol why are you such a crybaby did some one poop in your wheaties today …lol

    • Billy.

      Was this directed at me? Do you know what the word “reply” means?

  • cracker

    well bill its obvious you have been butt hurt at some point and time and have a lot of hatred in you but dont hate it just makes for a sad you ..and if you dont like christains why are you on this site ? you crying out for help ? but anyway god bless you and later on

    • Billy.

      So that’s a “no” to understanding what the world “reply” means.

      • sumsrent

        I take it that you don’t know much about capitalizing on comment boards… aye? You screwy rabbit… trdicks are for chicks…

        • Billy.

          Was this directed at cracker?

          • sumsrent

            Let me help you… sumsrent Billy.

          • Billy.

            Well I capitalized my post but cracker did not. You really don’t know how to read do you?

          • sumsrent

            It’ll come to you one day…

          • Billy.

            Perhaps one day someone will teach you how to read.

          • sumsrent

            And… hopefully… one day you’ll realize that being gay is wrong.

          • Billy.

            I won’t. America however is realizing very quickly that being a homophobic bigot like you is wrong, and nothing you can do will change that.

          • sumsrent

            Bigot: “a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)”

            THAT DEFINES THE ACTIONS OF GAYS AND HOMOS !!!

            You know… the bigoted gays and bigoted Homos that require those who oppose their thinking & lifestyle to be punished.

          • Billy.

            No it definately defines Christian bigots like you who want to oppress homosexuals and deny them basic human rights.
            Which homosexual was it that stopped your stupid duck guy speaking? None of them you moron.

          • sumsrent

            Which homosexual?
            Really???
            What a stupid question…
            Now tell me… what makes the Duck guy “stupid”?
            Careful how you answer that…

          • Billy.

            I didn’t realize that questions you can’t answer must be stupid.
            I repeat: which homosexual caused your stupid duck man to get fired?
            A private sector company/ straight man fired the stupid duck guy. Not any homosexual. Deal with it.

          • sumsrent

            Which isn’t the answer… it was the entire bigoted gay and the bigoted homo agenda with all their so called ignorant supporters.

            So that is what makes your question stupid.

            Now tell me… what makes the Duck guy “stupid”?
            Careful how you answer that…

          • Billy.

            This is pretentious drivel. No homosexuals fired your stupid duck guy. A straight man working for a private sector company fired him. Admit that and I’ll tell you why duck man was stupid.

          • sumsrent

            Read it and weep…

            A&E explained its decision to suspend the star…

            “His personal views in no way reflect those of A&E Networks, who have always been strong supporters and champions of the LGBT community.”

            Now what does that tell you Mr. Simpleton?

          • Billy.

            It tells me it was the decision of A&E, it also tells me that you really are too stupid to know how to read. Where does it say homosexuals fired duck idiot?

          • sumsrent

            It does say… “strong supporters and champions of the LGBT community.”
            Now prove to me that the individual who stated this wasn’t a bigoted Homo?

          • Billy.

            You’re the one making the assertion he is, you have to prove it. Add “burden of proof” to the long list of things that you don’t understand.

          • sumsrent

            Wrong… you asked which Homo fired the duck (Phil). And ignore the fact he was terminated based upon the bigoted Homo agenda.
            Hello! Are you in there?

          • Billy.

            You’re ignoring that there’s zero evidence that a homosexual fired duck man. Duck man got fired because the private sector company considered his remarks to be offensive. That’s reality whether you want to admit it or not.

          • sumsrent

            You’re ignoring the fact he was “fired” because of the bigoted Homo agenda. Who did it isn’t as important as why it was done.

          • Billy.

            He was fired because he made remarks that his bosses found unprofessional and offensive. Nothing about the equality movement fired your stupid bigoted duck man.

          • sumsrent

            Star Magazine Deputy editor Matt Coppa:

            “A&E felt the pressure to do something.”

            These Christian Times Reports:

            “DID PHIL GET FIRED? ALL OUT NUCLEAR CULTURE WAR ON GOD AND DUCK DYNASTY”

            It goes on…

            “This is not the first time that issues have arisen between Phil and A&E about his faith. You may recall in an interview in April 2013, Phil Robertson told Sports Spectrum TV that A&E Network had attempted to cut mention of “Jesus” from the “Duck Dynasty” family prayer at the end of the show, but that he had protested and won. So if A&E cannot stop the prayer, then they go after the one who utters his love for the God who died for mankind. They found a way to silence him, but at the same time have created within them ignorance against God.” <<< [Nope the mere mention of Jesus!]

          • Billy.

            What awful hyperbolic yellow journalism.

          • sumsrent

            How funny… smackdown!

          • Billy.

            You really do read some stupid trash. Between your reading habits and getting raped as a child your mental illness and fear of the all powerful satanic homosexual community is starting to make quite a lot of sense.

          • sumsrent

            Lame…

  • Nehemiah Scudder

    Luke 6:42. It’s in that book that you keep waving about when you scream at gays.

    When you have sorted out the kiddie-fiddling priests in your own back yard
    and apologised to ALL of the victims, then, and only then can you talk
    to
    the world about child protection issues. “Suffer the little children to
    come unto me” wasn’t supposed to be an incitement for the priests to
    get stuck in!
    Incidentally persecution is what is happening to Copts
    in Egypt. In USA there is not a religious test barring Christians from
    holding office. There IS however a legal bar against Atheists in some
    states. This means that Christians hold a privileged position not a
    “Victim of persecution” status

    • ComradeJ

      Pope has already started kicking those gay pedophiles out. It’s long overdue.

      I doubt though homosexuals will apologize for the scandal like Catholic Church did, even though as John Jay report demonstrates, over 80% of abuses committed by “priests” were homosexual.

      • Billy.

        I don’t see that number in the John Jay report. Source?

        • ComradeJ

          oh look who’s back! Billy, back to supply us with more of your “intelligence” through more ad hominems and red herrings?

          John Jay report, even on WIki shows breakdown by gender

          17k boys 3.7k girls. Boy are roughly 82%,

          Math is hard ah? Ad hominems are easy… I know, I know but you must learn the former someday.

          • Billy.

            How is asking for a source an Ad hominem?

          • ComradeJ

            The statement describes your overall love for Ad Hominems and seeming inability to do simple math. ;)

          • Billy.

            Bit rich from someone who has an inability to even remember whether or not they already posted their comment.

          • ComradeJ

            a bit rich from someone who’s been already told that it appeared Disqus ate the comment. Comprendo English? LOL

          • Billy.

            The comment was posted, how does that appear to be Disqus eating the comment?
            Reading even your own posts is hard huh?

          • ComradeJ

            Look another red herring ad hominem, what are you 13 LOL.

            Having demonstrated that you have no idea what the word ‘now’ means, you go after the word eat.

            If the comment is posted and disappears, it makes sense to say Disqus ate the comment.

            If the comment is not posted and does not appear, it makes sense to say Disqus did not publish the comment.

            But anyway, back to the topic homosexual priests were responsible for 82% of all the abuse of children. Fact.

          • Billy.

            I think you’re the one who demonstrated that you’ve got no idea what the word “now” means, considering you attempted to use it to mean “years ago”.

        • ComradeJ

          20.86 k documented in JJ report.
          17k boys, 3.7k girls aka 82% boys.

          Math is hard huh?

          • Billy.

            Posting the same thing only once is hard huh?

          • ComradeJ

            occasionally when the DIsqus has a fluke. But maybe repetition will help you learn?

          • Billy.

            I don’t see what your inability to post comments online without repeating yourself has to teach me.

          • ComradeJ

            So me re posting the numbers that you are too … to calculate, twice (because it appeared that Disqus did not publish it), leads you to conclusion that you have nothing to learn. cough cough quick ignore the numbers cough cough

            Well now, that explains a lot…RONFL

          • Billy.

            Nice incoherent post. You write like a five year old.

          • ComradeJ

            more ad hominem, from Billy-cannot-do-math… LOL

          • Billy.

            Says a guy who writes incorrectly and is too stupid to even understand whether or not his comment has been posted.

      • Halou

        If it is for the gay community to apologize for pedophilia scandals committed by gay men and/or women. Then is it for the heterosexual community as a whole to apologize for the behavior of Jerry Sandusky, who, might I remind you, was a man married to a woman.

        • ComradeJ

          Lol, but it is for Catholic Church to apologize for individual priests? You can not have your cake and eat it too..

          • Billy.

            Why are you so obsessed with cake? Be honest you’re obese aren’t you?

          • ComradeJ

            On a wrong link or just still stuck on stupid?

          • Billy.

            Whatever you say tubby.

          • ComradeJ

            more ad hominems, LOL

            anyone upstairs in your head besides the ad hominem auto response?

          • Billy.

            You do realize that your criticizing my use of insults by making lots of insults yourself right?

          • ComradeJ

            Yes it’s called diagnoses, in this case they are based on your own words, Latter consist primarily of ad hominems and red herring.

          • Billy.

            It’s called hypocritical.

      • Nehemiah Scudder

        You are perfectly correct that the Popes current actions are long overdue. This should have been done by his predecessors predecessor, who instead appointed the previous Pope to organise the cover up operation
        It was not the homosexual community that placed these kiddiefiddlers in a position of authority within the parish, nor was it the homosexual community that told the victims and their families that publicising the offence placed themselves at risk of hellfire and damnation, and neither did the homosexual community actively seek to protect the offenders from prosecution by removing them from the reach of the prosecuting authorities.
        Anybody who knowingly acts to protect a child rapist from prosecution is themselves an accessory to that crime and owes far more than a simple apology, and that applies regardless of religious belief, sexual orientation or astrological star sign.
        The individual offenders need to answer for their own crimes and the church must be held to account for its complicity in these crimes. The homosexual community itself was not privy to the information held by the church hierarchy, and was itself condemned from the pulpit on a regular basis by the offender despite the fact that their partners were at least consenting adults.

      • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

        Splains the exponential increase in homosexual behavior much better than “born this way.”

      • Ginger Martinez

        What scandal should LGBT apologize for? When a person commits rape, even with same sex minor, it is an act of control, not sexual orientation. Rape is not about sex.

        • sumsrent

          Rape is everything about sex… just like the Bigoted demented Homo agenda is all about sex…
          Don’t let the experts brainwash you to think otherwise.

          • Ginger Martinez

            As a woman who has been raped. Fuck you. It has nothing to do with sex.

          • Ginger Martinez

            Or perhaps you just trying to excuse violent acts you perpetrated against someone, and by saying it was sex you are implying consent.

          • sumsrent

            Nice language…
            Remember… you said… “when a person commits rape… it is an act of control”
            You were the victim… big difference…
            But honestly… I think you just wanted to be able to blurt that out. I bet you have a tendency to play the victim role as often as you can… aye?

          • Ginger Martinez

            Actually no!!! I have just started being able to talk about it. And no it was not sexual. That is a very chauvinistic statement based on no knowledge.

          • sumsrent

            “it was not sexual”… ???
            Not for you as the victim… but it was sexual for the perpetrator.
            [Somehow this comment posted twice... sorry... there seems to be a problem with Disqus... posting... comments showing up... etc.]
            And to answer your husbands question… no… most everyone always refer to me as an asshole.

          • Ginger Martinez

            No it wasn’t sexual for him either, unless you are a woman who has been raped, or a man who rapes, you have no clue. Why don’t you stop trying to rewrite facts.

          • sumsrent

            I don’t know the specifics of your situation… and… unless you’re willing to throw it all out there… we’re left only surmising.
            My advice… drop it, because it’s a personal thing and not something that should be pasted all over the internet.
            But you are who you are… and if you want to be the Queen voice of all the victims in this world… go for it. And be the idiot of the year. <<< Let's start the New Year off with a blast… aye?
            PS… don't be a sucker.

          • sumsrent

            Nice language…

            Remember… you said… “when a person commits rape… it is an act of control” and… “Rape is not about sex.”

            You were the victim… big difference…

            But honestly… I think you just wanted to be able to blurt that out. I bet you have a tendency to play the victim role as often as you can… aye? Or… do you use it as an excuse to be gay?

          • Ginger Martinez

            my husband says no. I am not using it . however, if I was gay I would not hide it or use rape as an excuse.

          • Ginger Martinez

            He also asked if just because you have a penis do you have to be a dick.

      • Ginger Martinez

        Pedophilia is an act of violence not sex. Whoever perpetrates it is a criminal pedophiliac. Not a gay or straight pedophiliac.

        • ComradeJ

          Pedophilia is a mental condition where an adult is sexually attracted to children. Comes from Greek pais [child] +philia [love].

          Thanks for displaying your ignorance.

          • Ginger Martinez

            You are right it is a diagnosis not an act. So I will reword it sexual abuse of a minor is an act of violence often perpetrated by heterosexual or asexual men.

          • ComradeJ

            Pedophilia is any sexual relationship of adult with a minor.

            But, now I catch your drift. You are advocating ‘voluntary’ pedophilia.

            Are you a pedophile yourself by chance? You strangely favor “a new” definition of it.

          • Ginger Martinez

            A pedophile is a person who has a sustained sexual orientation toward children, generally aged 13 or younger, Blanchard says.

            Not all pedophiles are child molesters (or vice versa). “Child molesters are defined by their acts; pedophiles are defined by their desires,” Blanchard says. “Some pedophiles refrain from sexually approaching any child for their entire lives.” But it’s not clear how common that is.
            Citation from WebMD
            I have no idea where the rest of what you said came from.
            What voluntary pedophilia?
            No I am not are you? My definition is actually correct. The act is child sexual abuse the desire is pedophilia.

          • ComradeJ

            Your first statement – Pedophilia is an act of violence not sex.

            You yourself proven it’s wrong by very definition you just quoted. I rest my case. RONFL

          • Ginger Martinez

            Did you read up. I already corrected what I had said. “You are right it is a diagnosis not an act. So I will reword it sexual abuse of a minor is an act of violence often perpetrated by heterosexual or asexual men.” This post is redundant since I had already addressed it. By all means rest your case it is old and if you have not learned anything yet, you are not likely to.

    • Halou

      Reminds me of British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli, often referred to as “the Jew” in political circles, but if he were actually a Jew, under parliamentary rules he would strictly prohibited from holding political office.
      The Jews had to petition for the “special right” to hold political office in Britain,

  • ComradeJ

    At least not all gays are into “you disagree with me, you must hate me” stupidity. Credit, where credit is due. From Time:

    The ‘Duck Dynasty’ Fiasco Says More About Our Bigotry Than Phil’s
    by Brandon Ambrosino

    • Billy.

      “You disagree with me, you must hate me”
      That describes Christians better than it does homosexuals.

      • ComradeJ

        lol, that must be why haters coined the term homophobe to describe those who disagree with them… RONFL

        Does it hurt when you get slapped on obvious falsehoods?

        • Billy.

          I’ll let you know when I do. The obvious falsehood however is the idea that those who created the term “homophobe” are the haters, rather than the hateful bigots the term describes.
          Why do Christians think they’re being oppressed every time society stops them oppressing others?

          • ComradeJ

            lol, so let’s get this straight, pun intended, another gay says it’s bigotry to see bigotry in Phil comments, while you are claiming its oppression? Case closed.

          • Billy.

            That’s not what I said at all. Mostly because once again your post was incoherent.

          • ComradeJ

            “Incoherent”?

            Considering that you are so easily confused that even the word ‘now’ confuses you, no further comment is needed in regards to the charge. RONFL.

          • Billy.

            You use the word “now” to describe Bush polls from years ago and it’s me that’s confused?
            Basic understanding of English is hard huh?

          • ComradeJ

            So you propose we compare Bambi to Bush’s end term.

            What do those idiots at Gallup know when they put up charts for idiots who read them showing polls at corresponding points in the first and second term.

            You are pretty desperate, sad, sad

          • Billy.

            I propose we use the word “now” to mean “now”, not “years ago”.
            By the way that comparison isn’t very good because unlike Bush Obama didn’t get bumped up to about 90% one September 11th because failed to protect the country. Bushs ratings after that date look like a slide compared to Obamas comparatively steady poll numbers.

          • Billy.

            RONFL RONFL RONFL you do to understand words!
            See how that makes you look about 13?

          • ComradeJ

            I am not the idiot who doesn’t know what ‘now’ means…

            But since that’s the only thing that you can respond with… say who’s 13 year old RONFL

  • docrt925

    Mr. Shoebat: Will you be equally fervent in your militant campaign when it comes to heterosexual sodomites, or is this not about fidelity to the full scope of Biblical dogma but about targeting one particular group out of…what? hatred? fear? ignorance? irrationality? delusion? OH and if the two random criminals you reference can define everyone else of the same orientation, then I can assume you are fine with being equated with Ted Bundy and should be legally required to stay away from all women?

    • sumsrent

      “Will you be equally fervent in your militant campaign when it comes to heterosexual sodomites”

      I’m certain it will be so… when the next wave heterosexual sodomites overtakes the current more pressing issues opposing us today.
      Ugh… do you feel as if the gay homos are getting a bad rap today? Why? When a Christian was unfairly terminated from his position… for simply expressing what he believes.
      I wonder… how you would feel if Christians began showing up at Homos work places demanding their jobs because they oppose our thinking?

      • Billy.

        Which homosexual was it again that terminated the stupid duck guy? Oh yes, none of them.

        • sumsrent

          Answered down below…

          Now tell me… what makes the Duck guy “stupid”?
          Careful how you answer that…

          • Billy.

            Answer it properly and I’ll tell you.

          • sumsrent

            Silly you… you’re playing games. You know as well as anyone that the decision to relieve Phil form the show was based on the Bigoted Homo agenda. Which particular person… who knows.
            But on the flip side… prove that person wasn’t a bigoted Homo?

            And tell me… how is sticking a penis into a azzhole a civil right?

          • Billy.

            The decision to fire stupid duck man was made by a private sector company, most likely full of straight men. You have no evidence at all that any homosexuals made the decision that stupid duck man should be fired. Admit that and I’ll tell you why he was stupid and deserved to be fired.

          • sumsrent

            Remember… you’re the one who asked which Homo fired him?
            But what we do know… he was relieved because of the bigoted Homo agenda.
            Now you say… “most likely were straight”… Really? Prove it… or prove they weren’t bigoted Homos… your choice…

          • Billy.

            You’re the one making the assertion that duck man got fired because of homosexuals when there’s no evidence that any homosexual played a direct role in duck man getting fired.
            You’re making the positive assertion,the burden of proof is on you. Your stupidity is getting very tedious now.

          • sumsrent

            Are you listening to what you’re saying…

            You say… “there’s no evidence that any homosexual played a direct role in duck man getting fired.”
            Silly you… the Bigoted Homo agenda isn’t just one person… it’s a bunch of antichristian bigoted Homos.
            Ding dong! Do you hear the bells ringing? You should…

          • Billy.

            All of those homosexuals and yet not a shred of evidence that a single one of them played any important role in the removal of stupid bigoted duck man.

          • sumsrent

            It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize that the Bigoted Homo agenda played a part in Phil the Christian getting terminated for speaking out on homosexuality.

          • Billy.

            It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that you have zero evidence for that assumption.

          • sumsrent

            “Professional setting”!?
            He was being interviewed because of his success and Christian beliefs.
            Also… it would appear as if they were loaded questions.
            Which makes GQ magazine a untrustworthy source!
            In fact… everyone should ban GQ from now on also!
            Know this… his bosses found his comments offensive because they are influenced by the bigoted Homo agenda!
            You can’t change that fact!

          • Billy.

            Don’t be dense, he was being interviewed by media because of his tv show, that’s a professional setting where what he says reflects also on the production of the show and A&E.
            You’re assuming they’re loaded questions, just the same you’re assuming homosexuals must be behind this because you can’t except the reality. Duck man made highly controversial comments in a professional setting that management found offensive or thought would reflect badly on them.
            Why does every conservative out there preach personal responsibility and then ignore that teaching every time something they don’t like happens? When the question was asked duck man could have gave a “no comment” answer, he could have said “my religious beliefs are personal and between God and I” or anything of that nature and there wouldn’t have been a problem. A&E have every right to consider the equality movement when making their decisions, I know you’d rather they didn’t but unfortunately for you, you’re not the dictator of their decisions. No homosexual person fired stupid duck man, a private company did. Deal with it.

          • sumsrent

            See my post above… the fact stands… A&E was pressured by the bigoted Homo community!
            All over an interview that was set up to frame Phil for standing up for Christ Jesus!
            The fact stands… the bigoted Homo agenda was behind Phil’s termination. <<< That's a period.

          • Billy.

            A&E were pressured by the public and probably their stockholders. You still have zero evidence that any homosexual played a direct part in duck mans dismissal. You also haven’t answered as to why A&E shouldn’t be allowed to consider the views of homosexuals anyway.
            Why are you such a tyrant that you think A&E shouldn’t be able to consider any views they like?

          • sumsrent

            Things don’t click with you… do they?
            The words he spoke “offended” who?
            I’ll give ya a hint… The Bigoted Degenerate Homo Community!
            And since A&E is an affiliate of Disney… we can easily see what the PC thing to do is… aye? Strike the Christians…

          • Billy.

            The homosexual community has no power to fire stupid duck man though do they?
            You also haven’t answered as to why A&E don’t have the right to listen to the homosexual community if they wish to. You know you don’t get to choose who they listen to right?

          • Billy.

            Also the idea the interview was a set up for stupid duck man is once again a paranoid conspiracy with zero evidence. It’s almost as if your entire world view hinges on those.

          • Ginger Martinez

            No that is not a fact. I find his comments very offensive and am glad he was suspended. I was also offended by his comments about blacks. Opinion or not, very inappropriate and should not, as a representative of the station, he was in the wrong.

          • sumsrent

            They didn’t press the “Black” issue because it didn’t have a ground to stand on. Just because he never witnessed any persecution should indicate that he grew up in an area where everyone got along.
            However; the fact DOES stand…he was attacked because of the Bigoted Demented Homo agenda!
            So let me ask you… since you’re such a sensitive person…
            How come you haven’t commented on the muslims throwing Urine at Christians article here? Do you NOT find that article “offensive”? Or … you don’t find it worthy of your disgust?
            Probably not… aye? Because you’re brainwashed to only support satanic issues. And… I bet you don’t know it… do ya?

          • Ginger Martinez

            anti-Christian bigoted homos? Pretty presumptuous of you. There are Christian LGBT, and atheists in every race.

          • sumsrent

            anti-Christian bigoted homos… yes!
            If you read through the comments you might discover they’re the words of others… some describing the filthy anal loving Homos. I simply took their words and grouped them together.
            And since you are so naive… to attach Christians with the LGBT dark underground… tell me…
            Would those Christian LGBT place Christianity or the LGBT as number one on their list of priorities? Especially when they might conflict on a particular issue… such as this?
            Q: Can you actually define what a Christian is?
            PS… You’re brainwashed.

          • Ginger Martinez

            How is where you put your penis anyone’s business but yours? As long as it is consensual, nobody cares, guess that makes it a civil right. As long as you are judging people based on gender, color, religion, sexual preference, or ethnic background it is a civil rights issue.

          • sumsrent

            Ginger… we’ve already covered everything your saying here. Read through the comments and realize the things that you oppose… as a hypocrite… as one having a slow mind… hating pedophilia…
            As marijuana is a gateway drug… so is the Bigoted Demented Homo agenda with being a gateway to pedophilia and bestiality…
            They are NOT the acts of someone who has a sound mind.
            Get this Ginger… if you want to be a stupid gay rights activist… go for it. I don’t care… that’ll be between you and your maker… whoever or whatever that is.
            In the mean time… just as you voice you opinion that people shouldn’t speak out on the Bigoted Demented Homo agenda… the Homos shouldn’t have a right to influence the dismissal of anti-gay workers.
            In other words… the Bigoted Demented Homos want a voice while they force everyone else to shut up. Is that fair? No.
            In the mean time… as you support the gays… the pedos will demand their rights… the beasties will demand their rights and I have to ask… When will you draw the line?
            If you do at any point you are a Hypocrite accusing me of judging when you are judging!
            Equal rights for all mean equal rights for ALL!!!
            And when you stand up for stupidness… you should go all the way… aye?

          • Ginger Martinez

            the problem here is you have 2 premises that are wrong. Can you prove this statement? “As marijuana is a gateway drug… so is the Bigoted Demented Homo agenda with being a gateway to pedophilia and bestiality…” Again you are ignoring facts.

            “Using the fixated-regressed distinction, Groth and Birnbaum (1978) studied 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as “fixated;” 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that “in their adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men exceed their preference for women….There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males…” (p.180).

          • sumsrent

            I’m not gonna turn this into a marijuana debate so I’ll stick to the Bigoted Demented Homo agenda…
            Assuming you are not gay??? Assuming you’re just a supporter of gay rights…
            I’ll make this nice and slow for you…
            You support gay rights… you hate those who oppose gay rights…
            You are against pedophilia… even though they and their supporters make up a VERY large percentage of the population… I’ll take a guess at say… 1/4 of the population of this earth. Why? Because muhammad was married to a six year old and consummated her at nine years old. And… he is supposed to be the example for all satanic worshipping muslims to follow.
            Ugh…
            But here’s where your hypocrisy comes in… you support gays but not pedophilia…
            And yet you call those who oppose the homo agenda “bigots”???
            You draw the line and pedos and I can assume bestiality… then you are a bigot as much as I am one for opposing the homo agenda!
            Ugh…
            So regardless… aye?
            Nope!
            As you support the minority gays… someone else [or you, if you don't ever want to be the hypocritical bigot] will support the pedo and beastie minorities.
            Ugh…In other words… you’re support of the minority homo agenda is paving the way for pedos and beasties… and satanic worshipping muslims!

          • Ginger Martinez

            pedophilia is not consenting ADULTS. Neither is bestiality. How is supporting gays even remotely like supporting pedophilia? I am not a bigot for not supporting abuse.

          • sumsrent

            Yes you’re right… but the position of the Bigoted Demented Homo’s is all about “Equality”.
            And when you pave the way for one, then everyone is entitled to their form of equality too.
            Are you listening? There are more pedos in this world and more supporters of pedos in this world than the Bigoted Demented Homos with their supporters!
            In fact… satanic worshipping muslims not only have approved consummation with 9 year olds… but have also approved rape… and sex with animals, sex with the dead and marriage for one hour as prostitution… And since they make up 1.68 billion voices on this planet… that places your voice of “equality” in with theirs.
            In other words… you’re supporting what you despise… all on the grounds of “equality”.
            And if you are being selective with what you approve as being under equality… than you ARE a bigot!

          • Ginger Martinez

            Do you ever research anything before you spew it on here. Where is your citation? How is not supporting abuse bigoted? In the past marrying young was considered appropriate. This has changed in our society, may not have in others. Not really important to this conversation as we are referring to the laws of the United States. As you have offered no information other than your homophobic views, I can only assume you are only spouting your own opinions not based on fact but bigotry.

          • sumsrent

            Ginger… I’m trying to keep it as simple as I see that you need it.
            My citation? Of what? I said a lot.
            Besides… anything I’ve said can be easily researched.
            You can do that by opening a new tab in your browser… typing in the words you actually question… and then hitting the search tab. Then wait for the search results to pop up. Then click on any of the results to read and discover new things. <<< Does that sound demeaning? It should since you are attempting to be the hero of the week and failing miserably at it.
            However; I don't recommend using google… it is heavily invested in and influenced by satanic worshipping muslims. Remember it was the CEO of google that sparked the so called ":Arab Spring"… which should more adequately be called… "The Springboard to advance satanic Islam".
            google also owns You Tube and Twitter… sources satanic worshipping muslims use to motivate each other in jihad.
            PS… the only thing that has changed is that different laws have been written. And know this… in a democracy… the biggest voice with the largest numbers can change those laws with the click of a pen.
            Get this through your numb skull… if you oppose satanic NAMBLA and satanic Islam… that makes you a bigot!

          • Ginger Martinez

            OMG you are dense. I don’t even know where to begin. OK I will address it in order. “the satanic worshipping Islamic world.” There are more pedos in this world and more supporters of pedos in this world than the Bigoted Demented Homos with their supporters” “satanic worshipping muslims not only have approved marriage with six year olds and consummation with 9 year olds… but have also approved rape… and sex with animals, sex with the dead and marriage for one hour as prostitution” ” And since they make up 1.68 billion voices on this planet… that places your voice of “equality” in with theirs. no, it doesn’t place my voice with theirs. As I pointed out marriage equality is about consenting adults in a loving relationship. “And if you are being selective with what you approve as falling under equality… than you ARE definitely a bigot” No! It is not bigotry to denounce abuse.’ Remember it was the CEO of google that sparked the so called “:Arab Spring”… ” “PS… the only thing that has changed is that different laws have been written.” The changes in the laws have been written because of the advancement in social equality. People realized that a women should be able to choose her own husband, and minors are not mature enough to make those decisions.l

          • Ginger Martinez

            as well as the increase in the life span. They don’t have to start as young to reproduce. “PS#2… If you really cared about things… you would be trying to help your Bigoted Demented Homo friend see that being a Bigoted Demented Homo is evidence of someone who doesn’t have a sound mind and only sees relationships as sexual. Sexual relationships <<< That's the satanic programming and brainwashing pushed on the unknowing. Which also fits in with the satanic agenda of the satanic Islamic world." How are they brainwashed? What technique is used? Are you married? Do you have sexual relations with anyone? How is a sexual relationship satanic programming? As you are presenting this as fact you need to site references. I have given many references supporting my case and you have not. If you can't cite real research then stop spewing.

          • sumsrent

            Actually Ginger… you are not listening…
            Get this… the Islamic world makes up 1.68 billion people on this planet. That’s one in every four people…. 25%… of the world. Their satanic Quran is the final word. And it says YOU are wrong!
            And the way they deal with people like you is… striking off your head unless you submit to their ways. They terrorize, enslave, rape, maim, mutilate, torture and kill. It’s all approved in accordance with the Quran.
            You don’t get to make up the rules. You don’t get a say so on what’s abuse. Not even a peep about equality.
            What you believe doesn’t matter one bit. How you see it doesn’t matter. You either submit or die. That’s it.
            The fact is… you are defining what is acceptable to you. All on the grounds of equality and factoring in abuse.
            However; the way satanic worshipping muslims see it… it’s not abuse. And I believe their numbers outweigh yours.
            Even though I agree with your view on abuse… I also see homosexual activities as a form of unnatural abuse being inflicted upon people that don’t have a sound mind.
            What you’re advocating is… that it’s ok for the mentally ill to preform sick things on each other because they’re old enough.
            The point is… for every argument you raise there’s a counterargument.
            In the mean time… as you push for the Bigoted Demented Homo agenda… you’re opening the doors for the other minorities to push their agendas. But the day will come that those minorities will become the majority.
            Get this… you can’t cherry pick what should be right or what should be wrong for me… and then call me a bigot when I disagree. Especially when there’s such a huge percentage of the population on this earth who view your outlook on the things you disagree with as being wrong.
            See… I draw the line at the Bigoted Demented Homo agenda… you’ve simply allowed yourself to be brainwashed to accept it and draw the line at the next level.
            Which means that you’re not only a hypocrite but a Bigoted Hypocrite too.
            Equality means equality for all. But not to you…aye? I think you’ll loose that bet. Just sit back and watch…

          • Ginger Martinez

            At no point did I cherry pick what should or should not be right for you. You are trying to do this to the LGBT. No I have not been brainwashed. But that is funny. Why are you talking about Muslims?

          • sumsrent

            Are you really that ignorant!?
            You and the entire Bigoted Demented Homo agenda are expecting everyone to accept and agree to the Bigoted Demented Homo lifestyle!
            And act as if people that draw the line at the Bigoted Demented Homo Agenda are wrong… and quite often the Bigoted Demented Homos expect those who disagree with their agenda to be punished! That’s what this article proves!
            Get rid of your meds… you’re being stupid

          • Ginger Martinez

            I am ignorant? You are the one making statements that are your opinion based on nothing but that. There is no homosexual agenda. Do you really think there is a manual somewhere to instruct them how to act and what to do to take over this country? People that draw that line have no right to tell someone else how to live or who to love.

          • Ginger Martinez

            You continue to make statement about what you believe as if they are facts. However you have offered no supporting citations.

          • sumsrent

            And you continue to play the little child.
            If you really were that ignorant… you would research whatever you were ignorant about. But apparently you’re too ignorant to do even that.

      • Ginger Martinez

        Do you know how many people are not even hired because they are gay? You really are ignorant of this topic. Do you remember Chic Fila ? How about cracker barrel and the businesses that have been boycotted because they hire gays?

        • sumsrent

          Are you lacking attention? Or… are you just trolling me down so you can give me your 2 cents worth.
          So good… people are boycotting Cracker Barrel… they need too. And thanks… I hadn’t heard about it, so I will to.
          The way I see it… the Bigoted Demented Homos should get used to having their ideas, positions and behavior flip back on them.
          It’s about equality… right? If it’s good for the goose it’s good for the gander… aye?
          Just like the satanic worshipping muslims that have laws to where only muslims can manufacture and produce halal approved food. No Christians… no Infidels… no gays… no homos… no Buddhists… no Hindus… no Sikhs… no nothing, but “muslims only” to be employed at these establishments.
          Get this Ginger… It’s NOT Islamophobia when they really are trying to kill you.

          • Ginger Martinez

            Well frankly they were boycotting Cracker barrel for firing gays.
            No I am not trolling you, just commenting on your posts.
            Please explain the attention comment. You did not explain why you said that.

          • sumsrent

            1) Interesting… I hadn’t heard about that either. But what I’m seeing is that it did spark LBGT non-discriminatory laws. And since Cracker Barrel is now removing anything Duck Dynasty containing Phil… it looks as if Cracker Barrel has only been helping the LBGT community all along.
            Also… the policy went in effect in January and was rescinded in March that same year. Two months… maybe three… of nothing but giving a voice to the LBGT community with plenty of media attention.
            2) The “attention comment”? I’m lost…

  • Billy.

    What specifically are you asking here? I believe in the established scientific fact of evolution but that’s not the same as a deity.

    • sumsrent

      Evolution is NOT a fact!
      It’s easily debated.

      • Billy.

        Evolution is scientific fact. If you think its “easily debated” (lol you probably know nothing about biology) then what you can do is write an academic paper and get it peer reviewed.
        Good luck though, you’re up against overwhelming evidence and the reality that large parts of genetic and biological study would not work without evolution, but they do.

        • sumsrent

          You want to discuss the X Y chromosome? Or… where would you like to start?

          • Billy.

            I’d like to start with the part where you write a peer reviewed essay. The idea that you understand biology more than scientists is laughable and I have zero interest in what a nutcase fundamentalist has to say about either chromosome.

          • sumsrent

            I didn’t think so…
            Move along little boy…

          • Billy.

            Go get to work on that peer reviewed essay!
            (You won’t because deep down even you realize you understand nothing about biology compared to actual scientists.)

          • sumsrent

            I’ve already done my research… therefore I welcome your challenge whenever you’re ready.

          • Billy.

            If you’ve done your research you can write a peer reviewed essay. You can overturn the scientific fact of evolution, make a lot of money and be famous!
            (Or you could just be a fundy idiot whose in denial about how little they know about biology.)

          • sumsrent

            LOL…
            Remember… anytime you’re ready…

          • Billy.

            Any time you’re ready to write that peer reviewed essay and change the established consensus on the scientific fact of evolution you can do so. I personally couldn’t care less about what you have to say on the subject.

          • sumsrent

            Since you have such a fondness for science… you do realize that science has also disproved evolution. But I guess that doesn’t matter to you does it. Why?
            Because you are dead set in your ways to be an imbecile… even if it causes you to contradict yourself.

          • Billy.

            Hahahahahahahahahahahhahahaahahahahahahaha
            Science is literally unanimous that evolution is correct. If you’d like to prove your assertion and challenge the scientific fact of evolution then you can write an essay and get it peer reviewed. You won’t do this though because actual scientists would tear your moronic misconceptions apart.

          • sumsrent

            OH… now it’s a unanimous issue…
            Then that would mean… your 10% Bigoted Homos should shut up.

          • Billy.

            Evolution is accepted universally by experts in biology. I don’t know what that has to do with homosexuals exactly however.

          • sumsrent

            “accepted universally by [selected] experts”… it’s the PC way of doing things in this antichristian satanic world.

          • Billy.

            It’s not “selected” experts it’s literally every expert in biology.
            I guess I should just be smart like you and believe every random conspiracy theory I hear?
            You’re going crazy to the point I suspect you might just be trying to troll me but if you are being sincere I honestly suggest you seek mental help. The world isn’t a scary as you’re convincing yourself it is. The entire world isn’t a satanic plot out to get Christians. I honestly think you’d be much happier in the real world, come and join us.

          • Kkdgrace

            If it’s a FACT, you would see 100% consensus among scientists. Facts can be replicated.

          • Billy.

            I hate to break it to you but
            A: there is 100% consensus among actual expert biologists and
            B: the process of evolution of simple animals has been replicated and witnessed in scientific experiments.

          • sumsrent

            “there is 100% consensus among actual expert biologists”
            Bull… source please… or is it… everyone that refuses to abide with the consensus isn’t considered an expert?
            And… since the majority believe the Bigoted Demented Homos are… well… not in the right mind…
            I would say the consensus rules… aye?
            PS… remember this… Christians like Phil speak out against the Bigoted Demented Homos… muslims execute them.
            Your fear should be more directed at the satanic worshipping muslims… aye? I would think… wouldn’t you?

          • Billy.

            Source? Are you serious? The source is the real world where in science no actual biological expert cares about your fundy nonsense, just like how in the real world the majority supports same sex marriage but you’re too intent on deluding yourself with moronic conspiracy theories to see that.

          • sumsrent

            We’ve already covered this Billy… the majority do NOT support the Bigoted demented Homo’s… the majority care less.

          • Billy.

            The source is that every university in the developed world teaches evolution as the scientific fact that it is. Every expert biologist accepts evolution because much of what we know about biology doesn’t even make sense without evolution.
            The majority believe homosexuals not only are in the right mind, but also should be equal and have the right to marry. Ive already proven that with the polls.

          • sumsrent

            Wrong!
            The “majority” (which you speak of and doesn’t exist) have been brainwashed to believe that bigoted demented homos are right in the mind to stick their penis’ in a sewage pipe. <<< [It's part of the satanic agenda]
            Besides… how dare you think that semen should intermingle with feces! That doesn't sound very "evolutionary"… aye?

          • BiIIy

            The majority for same sex marriage exists according to every poll done in 2013, you can cry and deny it but it doesn’t make that fact go away.
            And yes, the 100% consensus for evolution absolutely does exist. There’s no genuine biologist in the world that disagrees with the scientific fact of evolution.

          • sumsrent

            You have it backwards Billy…
            There is no genuine biologist in the world that would agree with the bogus scientific explanation of evolution.
            In fact you can easily research dozens of websites dedicated to proving science is wrong when it comes to evolution. Including Biologists and scientists… go figure… aye?

          • BiIIy

            Don’t be such a moron, every genuine biologist in world agrees with the scientific fact of evolution. There’s only a handful of bogus pretend Chrristian “scientists” who would disagree, and instep ear argue completely debunked “intelligent design”. I don’t care if you’re stupid enough to think that some moronic blogs that support your uneducated deluded world view, the entirety of science is on the side of the scientific fact of evolution.

          • sumsrent

            “a satanic plot out to get Christians”?
            Not exactly… killing Christians isn’t as important as keeping those Christians from getting the Word into the hands of the lost.
            In other words… the Christians are already Saved… satan has already lost those numbers… caulk them up… aye?
            The agenda in place… is keeping the unsaved from obtaining Salvation.
            Think about it… Christians are only a threat because they can help others find the Truth.

        • Kkdgrace

          Fact, my behind! It’s a THEORY! Facts can be objectively replicated using scientific methods. The world’s been so brainwashed about true science.

          • Billy.

            This is a common misconception, you misunderstand what the word “theory” means in the scientific context.
            Here’s how it works:
            Fact: Animals evolve.
            Theory: Natural selection places evolutionary pressures on species which evolve over time through non-random mutations.
            (non-random in this case doesn’t mean theres guiding power, but that environmental pressures cause only mutations which are beneficial to the reproduction of that species to last long term.)

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  • Nehemiah Scudder

    When you cite Leviticus in your argument, you completely leapfrog that
    part of the Bible that concerns the teachings of somebody called
    “Christ” and resort to teachings of genocide, and hatred for you
    neighbours, where men are told to kill everybody but the young virgins,
    who they take for their own entertainment. This is a direct contradiction of the tenets of Christianity
    You cite Paul as 1:32
    claiming that homosexuals are “worthy of death” yet there is nothing in
    the preceding list of things that specifically includes homosexuality.
    The closest prohibitions are against pederasty and prostitution

    • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

      This post full of false statements.

      • Billy.

        I’m not getting involved in this directly but you need to actually give examples of what’s false and explain why if you want anybody to listen to you.

        • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

          Each statement where he makes a claim/assertion. It’s there to read item by item.

          • Billy.

            You need to actually give the reasons why the statements are false though.

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            Actually, no, I don’t. IF u want tho, you may give some thougjt to it with your own brain.

          • Billy.

            What? Are you being stupid on purpose now? Why should I find the reasons to support your claim that they’re false? Why don’t you engage your brain and make the argument rather than just thinking that people will change their mind just because you posted “this is false.”?

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            I did not suggest u find reasons to support my assertion. I suggested you ruminate, take your brain past the programmed bounds of what you were taught in DayCae & /or college… much as u would have me consider things from sources outside the Bible.
            I have done that esp during the 27 years that i thot bible-believers were freaking mindless idiots.
            have u attempted to stretch ypur brain past your programming to do some deep ruminating and searching yourself… uncomfortable tho it is?

            My reasons and debates will not convince anyone.
            . That stuff didn’t work on me bcz i was like, besides the fact that u r a mindless fsiry tale believer in this book of b.s. “wisdom” what kind of ridiculous god would make a “me” if MY life was NOT supposed to be about “MY OWN FREAKING WILL not “His Supposed Will??!??!!

            You could not have paid me to be an idiot and believe this stuff.

            And many words did not convince me.

            I just suggest to u maybe go outside rhe bounds of what you were TRAINED to think. Or not, it is up to you. But u r a male (??) made in His image and it would be tragic if u miss out on knowing/walking in that. Not to mention the whole plan of History and beyond… IF in fact it IS His to decide…just make sure (again im sure u already have) u ARE preparedif this stupid-seeming bible-god-prophesy-his will “crap” is true.

          • Billy.

            Ok well the original point was that if you want anyone to take the comment seriously, let alone believe you, you have to expand on the point beyond “no that’s false.”
            Regarding Christianity my wife is a moderate Christian (I’m sure plenty here would say she isn’t one at all but I’m not bothered by that) I have plenty of Christian family remembers. I’ve read the bible, studied religious philosophy and wrote essays on the topic at degree level. I’ve expanded my mind. If you’re happier with your faith than you were as an atheist then good for you, I’ve read pretty much every philosophical argument for gods existence there is and I personally found the counter arguments to be much more convincing.
            I honestly wish Christians no harm at all, but just as Muslims shouldn’t dictate public policy and force their beliefs on others, neither should Christians.

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            Oversimplified, but here is the — or a — conundrum: if He does not have the right or even the existence with which to “set the rules” then every individual and group down here DOES.

          • Billy.

            I apologize if its me being obtuse but I don’t understand your conundrum, are you asking where morality comes from if god doesn’t exist?

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            Let’s see… interrupted by landlord putting finishing touches on anti-burglar (hopefully,quite makeshift) window treatments.Me and neighbor were burgled recwntly.
            Regather thot…
            Ok am saying that if there is not a/one transcendant moral code/operating system/rule set, then de facto each individual and group has the right to impose their own.
            That is the best we get from making equal rigjts the supreme moral code or Human O.S.
            That equals societal chaos.Which we are hurling toward… yes it is anew societal paradigm but it is chaos… bcz we all –naturally– want Our Way. So does each subgroup insociety.
            We have pro and anti everything as long as WE r the ones setring the rules.
            Do u see the recipe for unavoidable Chaos?

            And with that, i must go .. for now…

          • Billy.

            If we didn’t have a democracy or any concept of democracy that may be true.
            In a democracy (theoretically at least) all of our competing morality/views can be represented and allowed to compete in a non-violent competition for votes. All of our views and morality can compete in a “free market of ideas” if you will.

            I’m off for a while now as well so if that answer is unsatisfactory explain why and I’ll give it a better go later.

          • Ginger Martinez

            “if there is not a/one transcendant moral code/operating system/rule set” just because atheists don’t believe in God does not mean there is no moral code. That is called respect for others, and that is the base of morality as well as the democratic rule.

          • Billy.

            And yes I’m male.

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            Suuuurre!!!! lol

          • Billy.

            Ok?

  • Billy.

    Young people making up their minds differently from how you think is not “social engineering”, your outdated view of how a family must operate belongs in the 1950s (along with your fundy religious beliefs.)

    • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

      Hey Billy what you have been t

      • Billy.

        There’s nothing wrong with a motherly mom and a fatherly dad, what’s wrong is imposing your belief that it’s the only way to be on society.
        And no, I don’t for a second that back then was a sweeter place, in my view it was a narrow minded racist, sexist and homophobic place, but society changed, societal norms change and although there’s plenty in the world I don’t like I would ever change it back to the 1950s.

    • sumsrent

      If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.

      That is social engineering!

      Wiki Reports:

      “Social engineering is a discipline in social science that refers to efforts to influence popular attitudes and social behaviors on a large scale, whether by governments or private groups.”

      And when the world is satanic… we see satanic influence. Namely the bigoted Homo agenda!

      • sumsrent

        Communist Manifesto: Number 26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

        • Billy.

          What’s your point?

          • sumsrent

            Amazing… here you’re always claiming how others have a problem reading… and you struggle all the time with comprehension.
            Bwahaaaahaaahaaahhaaahhahwahhhaahaaaahahaaaa!

          • Billy.

            I had no trouble at all reading. Your post however makes me think again that you have some sort of learning difficulty regarding reading.

            What in my post shows a lack of reading comprehension specifically?

          • sumsrent

            Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.” <<< What part of that don't you understand!?

            In fact… don't you find it amusing that they would group "Homos" with "degeneracy"?

            So here we can define your position as:
            "Bigoted degenerate consenting homos should have the civil right to stick their penis up sewage pipes!" <<< Does that appear as if these individuals have a sound mind to marry?

          • Billy.

            I understand the sentence fine. What I don’t understand is why I should care what the Soviet Union thought about homosexuality. I don’t find it amusing or surprising that they would group homosexuality in with degeneracy, it’s not like there was many people back then anywhere that didn’t.
            “Bigoted degenerate consenting heterosexuals have the civil right to stick their penises in vaginas!”
            doesn’t read very differently. Why do you keep making this childish point over and over when you can’t make the simple rebuttal to when I switch anus (or whatever immature phrase you may choose) for “vagina”?

          • sumsrent

            You’re one who clearly stated that the bigoted degenerate Homo lifestyle was a “civil right”. <<< Have you forgotten?
            Then you attempted to twist the fact that Phil 'was' being punished for speaking his opinion [free speech] and terminated all because of the Bigoted Degenerate Homo agenda.
            Acting as if the Bigoted Degenerate Homo agenda wasn't behind it all. When you know down deep… it was.
            Get this… you're wasting time now.

          • Billy.

            Duck man is being punished because he made a highly controversial and offensive remarks in a professional setting. If he made the remark in private or in a bar with a friend nothing would have happened.
            I’ve told you this and you had no retort beyond your usual evidence-free nonsense about “the homo agenda”.
            I understand I am wasting my time, I didn’t think talking to a mentally ill homophobe who believes what they do probably because they unfortunately suffered sexual abuse as a child, would be very productive.

          • sumsrent

            Hold on a minute… your argument isn’t about how nasty and sickening anal sex is… it’s about equal rights… aye?
            So tell me… do you approve of this degenerate behavior too? Would you engage in such practice? If not… how come?

            Maybe you need some time to think it through… aye?

          • Billy.

            I don’t have any problem with homosexuals practicing whatever consensual sex they like.
            I wouldn’t engage in such activity because I’m not gay. I haven’t had anal sex with my wife even simply because neither of us have a desire to do so.
            That doesn’t mean I have any moral problem with anal sex of either heterosexual or homosexual orientation any more than I have a moral problem with eating olives because I don’t like olives.
            I didn’t really need much time to think that through its pretty basic stuff.

          • sumsrent

            You wouldn’t engage… but you support them for minority equal rights…
            But… you don’t support child marriage or bestiality? Even though they are minorities also!
            Can you not comprehend the hypocrisy in your positions!?
            And then you call Christians “bigots”!? When you’re a bigot too!
            The difference is… you’ll accept sick minded perversion up to level six… and true Christians won’t accept the Bigoted Demented Homos on even level one.

          • Billy.

            Two consenting adults that are not related, moron. Child marriage and beastiality don’t count because neither children or animals can consent you stupid fundy bigot.
            You also don’t get to decide who “real Christians” are you self important idiot.

      • Billy.

        The big lie that’s getting told over and over again is actually your religious beliefs that homosexuals are satanic and evil. That’s the big lie that’s being told over and over again and your feeble mind has came to accept it as truth.

        • sumsrent

          You never have explained how sticking a penis in a azzhole is a civil right.

          Maybe you can determine where you draw the line…aye?

          Is it at bestiality? Child marriages? Having sex with the dead? Having civil rights for trees and plants?

          Where do your limitations start?

          • Billy.

            And you never explained how sticking a penis in a vagina is a civil right.

            I believe in the rights of two consenting adults to marry, so none of the examples you gave I believe in.
            I don’t believe in polygamy either although truthfully I wouldn’t care very much if it were introduced.

          • sumsrent

            So you admit… there is a level where you would draw the line.
            And yet… you act as if it’s wrong for people to draw the line on the bigoted homos.

          • Billy.

            There’s no reason to draw the line on homosexual marriage beyond religious beliefs. You want your religious beliefs to negatively influence others lives, you’re the bigot.

          • sumsrent

            Sure there is… the bigoted degenerate homo agenda is all about opening the doors and paving the ways for additional antichristian satanic beliefs.
            You act as if it’s not religious… think again.
            Everything in this world involves satanic Islam and it’s Luciferian Globalist agenda.
            Since the bigoted degenerate Homos are tools for satanism… the question still remains…
            Are the bigoted degenerate homos being set up to be slaughtered by the muslims… or… will satanic Islam create Sharia Laws that’ll approve of this degenerate behavior.
            And when I consider the results of the Ottoman Empire… I tend to think… the bigoted degenerate Homo agenda will flourish for a season… then they’ll all be executed.
            Thus… if that’s the case… I predict that a day will come that you’ll easily and quickly change your position of supporting the bigoted degenerate homos.

            Q: Are you a sucker? <<< [No pun intended.]

          • Billy.

            No I’m pretty sure gay rights is about equality. I’m also sure nobody cares what nonsense a fundy bigot has attributed to it in his own mentally ill mind.

          • sumsrent

            Pretty sure? You’re not thinking clearly…
            That “equality” has no end in site. Even you said there’s limitations to what you’ll go with. Which means you’re a hypocritical Bigot!

            Q: How’s that shoe leather tasting?

          • Billy.

            lol at being told I’m not “thinking clearly” by a mentally ill fundy who can’t grasp basic arguments.
            That equality does have an end I site, two consenting adults who are not directly related to each other, that’s the end.
            You’ve already demonstrated you don’t understand what the word bigot really means so I’m not surprised you’re failing to grasp these things.

            Q: so is that a yes on the sexual abuse during childhood? It certainly would explain why you hold your world view of all gays as satanic and evil when in reality many are obviously good people,

          • sumsrent

            “That equality does have an end I site, two consenting adults who are not directly related to each other, that’s the end.”

            Nope… and you know darn well it isn’t… since you bring up… “Sex and Children”…

            “Q: so is that a yes on the sexual a use during childhood?”
            What???

          • Billy.

            It is true and this paranoia about children is just more evidence that your hateful and misguided world view is most likely the sad consequence of you being sexually abused as a child.
            I’m sorry you suffered that abuse, but it’s not reflective of the homosexual community in general.

          • sumsrent

            “it’s not reflective”??? “In general”???

            Are you that misinformed or that much of a tool of a liar to be covering up the truth!
            Have you not seen the videos of the Bigoted Degenerate Homo parents attempting to brainwash their children into the Bigoted Degenerate Homo lifestyle? You should take the time to do a little research on the subject.
            Besides… with every move the Bigoted Degenerate Homo makes… every minority can lay claim to their “civil rights”.
            C’mon don’t be that much of an imbecilic denier of the progressive nature of your Bigoted Degenerate support. You’re helping to pave the way for the next Degenerate movement.

          • Billy.

            I’ve seen no videos of homosexuals brainwashing children.
            I have seen videos of bigoted Christians brainwashing their children. I hear Christians even have these places called “churches” where people gather and a man stands up and brainwashes everyone in the room.

          • Billy.

            You’re an idiot. There’s far more cases of heterosexual parents abusing children but you don’t care about those because they don’t fit your bigoted world view.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            Informed consent

          • sumsrent

            Sticking a penis into a sewage pipe does NOT qualify as being “Informed” or even of a sound mind.

          • Billy.

            By “sewage pipe” do you mean an anus, a vagina, or a literal sewage pipe?

          • sumsrent

            Silly you… always playing games…
            I thought you were learned in biology… doesn’t that study include some anatomy?

          • Billy.

            It does but nothing was marked as “sewage pipe”.

            Also I’m not academically learned in biology beyond high-school, I’ve read a half a dozen books out of interest but I’m no biologist.

          • sumsrent

            Right… sure thing… liar.

          • Billy.

            What am I lying about now?
            You sound very paranoid that people are lying to you. Is that part of your mental illness?

          • sumsrent

            You have a tendency to play the stupid role, quite often… does it come naturally? Naw… that’s what makes you a liar.

          • Billy.

            I don’t doubt for a second that I’m far more intelligent than a fundamentalist conspiracy-theorist. I promise you that certainly isn’t a lie.

          • sumsrent

            Interesting… you seemed to imply earlier on the evolution discussion that you were very knowledgeable…
            Surely that explains your backing out… aye?

          • Billy.

            I’m not “very knowledgable” about biology. Don’t get me wrong I probably know far more than you, but compared to actual experts in the field I know virtually nothing.
            By the way I didn’t “back out”, I stated my honest opinion that I couldn’t care less about your pretend science drivel. I’ve been down this road with fundies before and it’s all the same nonsense.
            If you honestly think you can disprove evolution then you won’t have any problem writing that academic essay, getting it peer reviewed and changing our understanding of biology forever.

  • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

    Woe is me. Just went back and re-read this article.
    I sincerely ask moral relativists/subjectivists:
    The imprisoned months-long sodomization and torture of a boy child … … … … that isJUST SOMEONE ELSE’S TRUTH AND MORALITY, RIGHT?

    • Billy.

      Heterosexual couples have done that as well, this case no more makes every homosexual parent evil than a heterosexual case of child abuse makes every heterosexual couple evil. Don’t be stupid.

      • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

        you AGAIN missed the point of someone’s post.
        Did you read the question and would you PLEASE answer it?
        Second question… is there anyone you don’t call stupid?

        YOUR rant/reply is once again completely off subject as a response to what was in my post that you replied to.
        Others here have pointed out your lack of grasping what is actually being said… u should give it some thought your lack of logic and pertinence is gaping esp for someone who habitually calls others stupid.
        Sorry, but stunning ability to string vocabulary words without perrinence to actual verbage u have read

        Yes im still up can’t sleep i must be too STUPID to know how to sleep…
        I already know your predictable answer to “anyone u don’t call stupid” question. (only those who rnt relig bigots)

        • Billy.

          Do you have a mental disorder? You’re the one ranting off topic just read your own post you moron.

          • Laurie WackoBird Ballard

            Ok thank you.

        • Ginger Martinez

          by verbage what do you mean? Spelling is actually verbiage. And can you please explain the term perrinence as you are using it?

    • Ginger Martinez

      No it is not any sane persons morality. however, there are many insane people out there of every persuasion. I don’t know anyone, gay or straight who would condone this.

  • Zachary Dryman

    This “gay agenda” that everyone is talking about isn’t in my Big Gay Handbook. Can someone please point me to the correct page?

    • Billy.

      Page 2 “how to bring down Christianity”, it’s just after page 1 “be fabulous”.

  • Sam1427

    Ted is absolutely correct about the biblical statements on homosexuality. So is Phil Robertson. Those who claim A&E has a right to restrict Phil’s religious expression are wrong. If you were to get fired from a job because of your religious beliefs, that is against the law. Homosexuals and their enablers are attacking Phil Robertson for his Christian beliefs, which are standard Christian doctrine. Time’s Man of the Year Pope Francis has the same beliefs, although he would undoubtedly phrase them differently.

    The extremely popular Duck Dynasty is now ground zero in the war on Christianity in America. I expect the Robertsons to stand strong alongside Phil. I hope we Christians are right there with them.

    • Ginger Martinez

      “Those who claim A&E has a right to restrict Phil’s religious expression are wrong. If you were to get fired from a job because of your religious beliefs, that is against the law.” However if a member of the LGBT community were to express their beliefs everyone of the religious right would say the company has a right to fire them. (chick fil a).Freedom of speech does not trump right to hire. Especially if the person talking can injure the company.

      • Sam1427

        A&E had a representative with Phil at the GQ interview. A&E could have cut Phil’s comments off any time they chose. That didn’t happen. So given that, you have to ask yourself a question: was this a setup? That’s what the Robertsons’ think and that’s what I think. For what purpose would A&E not request Phil stop talking and not request GQ not to publish the answer that Phil gave to a GQ question? If the intent of A&E was to make Phil look ridiculous, it backfired badly. If the intent of A&E was to create grounds to fire Phil, the Robertsons’ may, depending on their contract, have grounds to break their A&E contract. If the intent was to create publicity for their current and upcoming marathon of Duck Dynasty, they did that and more. Unfortunately for A&E, the “more” part is negative blowback on them.

        If the A&E representative who was present at the GQ interview was supposed to prevent Phil from expressing his Christian views and thus somehow “injuring” A&E as you suggest, the rep was at best incompetent and certainly negligent in performing assigned duties. If A&E had let well enough alone and said nothing about the interview other than “Phil Robertson has the right to his own opinions. A&E management does not share them but respects his right to have the opinion” all would be humming along smoothly with their cash cow Duck Dynasty. The usual intolerant pundits would be outraged, but in a few days they would have found something else to be outraged about.

        I now would not be at all surprised to see a fake “hate crime” perpetrated by a homosexual activist or a group of them. Public opinion isn’t going their way.

  • OpinionsProfile

    It is remarkable that so much disinformation can exist in one article.

  • http://www.twitter.com/xthred Rick Evans

    Over 400 comments. Lots of angry sodomites out there.

    • FuzzysDaddy

      most of em are closet gays ,, 90 percent of the teabaggers are gay ..

    • Billy.

      Lots of ugly bald dweebs too by the look of your picture.

      • http://www.twitter.com/xthred Rick Evans

        Aww. That’s my best photo :(

  • Weary of your words

    Shoebat is not a true christian yet. He doesnt love. Compare jesus who sat and ATE with sinners. Being a doctor to the lost. He never condemed anyone. What gives you the right to condemn people stating they are worthy of death. God is avenger of all. He is judge. Shoebats heart shows little mercy. Have mercy as jesus has shown mercy. Have a double take on that bible you are reading.

    • shoebat

      Worthy of Death is exactly the words of Paul in Romans!! This is exact quote. Read the context from Romans 1: 25-31. You are dealing here with people who know the Bible very well. While the Bible is forgiving it does not account for unrepentant sinners. A “proud homosexual” is an unrepentant sinner and “worth of death” according to the Bible.

      25 they exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

      26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In
      the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and
      were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts
      with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their
      error.

      28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.
      29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and
      depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice.
      They are gossips,

      30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;

      31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

  • Carson Wyatt

    I say to you citizens of the USA and members of the world that discrimination of all walks and ways of life are anything but solved. I am a white, Christian, Southern male who has been born and raised in the American way of life. This way of today is prosperity, equality, and opportunities for all who choose, but I say this growing up with my walks of life I have seen nothing but immediate prejudice and criticism from other fellow US citizens and members of the human race. And it was and still is these fellow men and women of society who proclaimed their own discrimination, inequality, and unfair treatment from others which include those with my walks of life. Now it is by no means for me to pardon all these acts by my heritage, but that does not mean for all those who my heritage in generations past discriminated to continue in my generation to oppress, political and social, myself, ways of life and those who share in my heritage, because of actions that our heritage in past generations committed, to this very day. Now from my own experience I could not walk down the streets in the Capital area of D.C wearing a Christian T-shirt without being criticized or being held against other civilians’ prejudice because of my religion. And they said to me and I quote ” Why do Christians even show up all they ever do is hate, disapprove, and chastise everyone?” To this I say wasn’t it Jose Sarria who preached on equal treatment for homosexuals, then what of equal treatment and non-prejudice actions of homosexuals to heterosexuals. In race I see the days of the glorified Martin Luther King Jr. who preached on peaceful treatment and equality for all races then what of the black hate crimes that has frozen white to other races relations resulting in immediate accusation of racism towards whites who dare say anything regarding color or slavery. And towards this very speech itself even those of my own heritage will shy away from this truth because they know that any acceptance of this truth will end in further isolation, prejudice, and discrimination against them from other groups of people. And what of other faiths? The Christian faith is one of acceptance and forgiveness through peaceful methods. All who deny this base their arguments off of few groups or events who do not display these beliefs such as Westboro Baptist or Crusades. Christianity accepts all people of different walks of life while not approving of the choices but not condemn g them of it but rather accept and love them. So I say to the USA and the world what is the evidence of the eradication of prejudice and what does prejudice mean to you? Remember prejudice has one definition and does not bend to fit others desires. And to you Mr. President how dare you proclaim your Christian faith but endorse gay marriage I find that your faith is false or you face struggles of homosexual radicals who pressure society into submission to their grievances which you fear if ignored could cause hate for your own administration which shouldn’t matter because this is your last time. I say to these current social reformists look to the women who gained suffrage and how they act today feminists do not act out in pointing out the faults of the male social groups. Where do you stand in comparison for mature reforms? Lastly on the topic of our nation’s Constitution, this document was based on Christian principles and if the allowance of gay marriage under the reasoning it is Unconstitutional not to, then you have dismantled the very foundation of our nation which is hypocritical. All these truths to say of pressures and forced guilt on the white, Christian, and/or males of society. I refuse for my generation,when we are adults, to live in a nation that has conquered the prejudice of the past, yet convicts those of prejudice in the future. Let it be known today that the ones who spoke out or are speaking out against prejudiced have forgotten their own truths and had sought out the enemies they had fought against but now use to their own personal gain, I am human, you are human, she is human, he is human, they are human, WE are ALL human!

    • Ginger Martinez

      We are all humans but not all Christians. This country needs to stop using Christianity as a reference for making laws. Not everybody believes as you do.

      • Carson Wyatt

        Tho is not about politics sir this is about the endless condescending of my faith because it does not make you feel comfortable to be around or something u don’t like. This is about society’s efforts to abolish Christian customs because it goes against a current popular trend. This is about you and others hypocrisy on prejudice and judging the faith before knowing it. This is also about your failure to recognize that other faiths have this belief. This is not about politics or hate I say to you look to your self what have you done to hurt the lives of people you meet on a daily basis because their not like you and then compare it to the lives my faith and others have touched positively of people we will never meet again because we accept all and that includes you sir I respect your being but I reject your principle which is something society wishes to think my faith as not doing so God Bless you sir I will be praying for you I wish to see you in heaven with me one day!

        • Ginger Martinez

          Let me clear a few things up. First I am not a sir. I am a woman. I have nothing against your faith. I have not been condescending to it or any other. How has anybody tried to abolish any Christian customs? I am a Christian. I have tried to never judge anything before I know about it. Just because I respect that others do not believe as I do, does not make me a hypocrite. Other faiths have this belief.However, some people do not have any faith or religion and they should not be forced to live on your standards. I am very conscientious of not hurting other people. I spend a great deal of time and energy to help as many as I can. I am not what you so clearly think I am. What principal do I have that you reject? I have been very blessed and we try to pay it forward in any way we can. So I have touched lives in a very positive way through my work as well as through my faith.

          • Carson Wyatt

            First off if you were a Christian like you say you are you would realize that our faith is not meant to make people feel comfortable and not awkward and you would realize that the real purpose is to bring honor and glory GOD and lead people to him. Being a Christian isn’t just about being good it is about having a personal relationship GOD. Succumbing to the world to please it is the opposite of GOD’s will and desire. Besides if you are a Christian ten you would also realize that homosexuality is wrong making people. Making people feel bad about it is wrong. Christians are here to rebuke the sinful concepts and help those with it to change their ways in love. Also Christian customs are being faded away because it does not make atheists or others who don’t agree feel good why do you think most people say happy holidays? I do agree with you On the fact that we shouldn’t force it down peoples throats but at the same time people who don’t agree shouldn’t have the privilege to take away from us because it doesn’t make them feel good an then force their customs to be taught in school. Now the way Phil Robertson said what he said could have been more out of love for Christ but what he said was true and the show from the very beginning has said that they are a Christian family and if you don’t like it you can just turn off the television or change the channel or mute the parts you don’t like but don’t change the show to fit your needs they’re contract has a freedom of speech corollary which gives them the right on media to bring up matters such as this. Now the Constitution is a Christian based document, I am a US political science major and if we were to take out all Christian aspects of the document then the country would allow theft, murder, political immorality, end of charities, and rape. Our society wishes to avoid and use these respectively but the refuse to admit they are Christian truths. Also technically all schools public and private are required to teach Creationism and Evolution for the classes categorized by the clause of 1852 for equal education of youth, but not anymore because it makes people feel confused or bad. This is breaking law disobedience a sin. Madame this time is very foreshadowing of the times to come for our faith we are beginning to see persecution in our own nation now it is small but will grow if you please would realize this that would be great no matter what denomination you are.

          • Ginger Martinez

            Not all Christians are like you. Who are you to judge my relationship with Jesus and God? The most important thing about the Bible is love. This is something the Christian Right has forgotten. We are not a Christian based country. Morality is not only for Christians. It is as I pointed out earlier your rights end where mine begin. Therefore, morality and Christian values are not the same thing. No one is forcing you to say Happy Holidays if you are not at work, and then it is up to the employer if they wish to include all faiths. How is your faith and Christianity being infringed on. You are not being forced to close churches or not to pray when you like. There are no laws banning it. Nobody is taking anything away from the church. Sorry, but it is not happening. I choose to express my relationship with Jesus by following how he treated people. I am kind, generous and help people who need it. This is how I live my faith. The reason creationism is not being taught in schools is because it has no bases in scientific fact. It is a theory based on the faith that it is what happened. Can be taught at church or at home. It is not logical to believe that the earth is only 6000 years old. How are you being persecuted?

  • disqus_1VhMJcA5Yv

    stick to your Money belt and shootin fer wet dreams hairball…I struggled most of my life with these terrible conflicts and NEVER once sought to trouble a boy.. I’m sure though that this duck fondeler will have little trouble finding work in the new American SS… they need basic Furnace help surely… Thank Jesus for the Freedom I have found in His Gracious kindness.

  • stephen ramsden

    You, my friend are “Shoe”batshitcrazy…
    Signed ,
    Everyone

  • Nehemiah Scudder

    Homosexuality is no more evil than being left handed, a trait that would also have led to being tortured and killed when theofascists last held authority.
    You, as Christians have also been commanded to kill all non-Christians, a command that you have cheerfully followed massacring all and sundry, but especially Jews and other Christians. You have also been commanded to deny freedom to the female of the species, own black people, and kill children.

    Your claim that Christians oppose racism and religious persecution is a clear and obvious lie. I can point to seventeen hundred years of history of oppression, slavery persecution, torture, murder genocide, and being generally obnoxious as evidence as to the dishonesty of your claim. I will also quote a Hindu, M. K. Gandhi who stated

    “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

    • Dittman

      Sir, God said homosexual acts are evil not I, they’re evil because they’re a perversion of his natural order. Man was created male and female so that they could come together in sexual union and produce offspring. If homosexual acts weren’t a perversion then sodomite couples and lesbian couples would be able to produce offspring.

      You make generalized and baseless accusations about the “evils” of Christianity. Jesus said, “my sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me…”, he also said “If you love me, keep my commandments…” Jesus commanded, “love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you…”. He also said, “Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ “. By his own words he declares that anyone who does evil in his name is cursed and not one of his. Jesus never commanded anyone to do evil. How can you judge Christianity for the evils that were done that were in opposition to Jesus’ teachings?

      You quote Ghandi, implying that you have the same attitude. Christ was hated when he was here. If he was here today he would be hated for the same reasons. He always resisted the proud, confronting them about their sin. He exposed their hypocrisy, greed, thefts, adultery, unbelief, and murders. He called the leaders of his day “white washed tombs” and children of Satan. For this they murdered him. Christians are hated for the same reasons today, because we confront the world about its sin.

      You have implied that evil exists. May I ask you, what is your basis for determining that which is evil?

      • Nehemiah Scudder

        Sir, where is your evidence that the worship of your particular sub-schism of your particular schism of your particular religion, is any more valid than the worship of Horus, or Wotan, or Zeus, or Xenu, or even the much vaunted Flying Spaghetti Monster. My wife is post-menopausal and we are no longer able to produce offspring, does that make our marriage a perversion?
        My accusations against Christianity are far from baseless however should I list specifics in their entirety your response would be “Too Long, Didn’t Read”. I will mention in passing the massacre of Muslim and Jewish women and children by crusaders in the compound of Herods Temple(a holy site and a place of sanctuary) in the First Crusade. The genocidal extermination of the Cathars of southern France. The Alhambra decree of 1492 abrogating sworn promises to the Jews of Spain and introducing a period of expulsion or forced conversion supported by the Inquisition that tortured the conversos to death. The actions of the Conquistadores in South America at least gave their victims a cleaner death than the actions of Protestant missionaries who deliberately gathered blankets from smallpox wards to gift to the Native Americans in a deliberate act of biological warfare.
        This very short set of examples are drawn from an extremely long list of the true nature of Christianity, because according to your own holy book “By their fruits shall you know them”, and this is how Christians are recognised and known. If your deity were as you paint it this history would be different since as Epicurus summed it up

        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
        Then he is not omnipotent.
        Is he able, but not willing?
        Then he is malevolent.
        Is he both able and willing?
        Then whence cometh evil?
        Is he neither able nor willing?
        Then why call him God?

        Many religions have claimed a monopoly on good, and subsequently class evil as “Not obeying our orders”. This is the justification that Catholics used to incinerate living Protestants, and then when power shifted guess what Protestants did to Catholics. A better determination of the good/evil dichotomy would be to follow the Confucian philosophy of Rén “wishing to be established himself, seeks also to establish others;
        wishing to be enlarged himself, he seeks also to enlarge others.” Another meaning of Rén is “not to do to others as you would not wish done to yourself.”

    • sumsrent

      You’re one mixed up fella Nehemiah…
      What you ARE describing is satanic Islam.

      • Nehemiah Scudder

        No, I’m definitely describing Christian history. The Crusades, the Alhambra decree, the Albigensian crusade ending with the annihilation of the Cathars, the conquistadores in South America, and the Protestant missionaries in North America.
        I could go on but you will certainly keep your mind closed.

        • sumsrent

          Crusades… crusades and more crusades… dealing with satanic muslims and stopping their Jihadic Conquests. Really?

          Evidently you’re selective in your history reading… just simply ignoring what the satanic muslims were doing for centuries enslaving, raping and killing millions.

          Also…
          Sorry… but the conquistadors in South America were soldiers and explorers for Spain, Italy & France and NOT acting on the Churches behalf. A race for discoveries and resources.
          Can you conjure up more false info?

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            So how did massacring Jewish women and children in the sanctuary of Herods temple in Jerusalem turn back the tide of Islam? How did the annihilation of a group of Christians who questioned the authority of the Pope stop a Jihadic conquest? How did Oliver Cromwells massacres of the Catholic populations of Ireland benefit the defence of Christianity against radical Imams in their madrassas.
            The reason I did not expound the failings of Islam is that nobody here was proclaiming the glories of Islam. If they were I could point out its failings, just as I am doing while you proclaim the so called blessings of Christianity.
            Both religions always have been, and still are, a blight on the face of humanity that is long overdue being eradicated.
            The conquistadores came with a bible in one hand and a sword in the other. Their message “Become a Catholic, or become a corpse” The thefts were just a bonus.

          • sumsrent

            Are you insane or just a joker?

            1) “massacring Jewish women and children in the sanctuary of Herods temple”

            Get your history straight… those massacres were done by the Romans… not Christians.

            2) How did the annihilation of a group of Christians who questioned the authority of the Pope stop a Jihadic conquest

            What are you talking about? Looks like your just throwing in made up stories to make a point.

            Also…

            It’s real easy to accuse Christianity of being responsible when political and military stances involved people who were Christians.

            As you speak about Cromwell and say… ” The conquistadores came with a bible in one hand and a sword in the other.

            That doesn’t mean these actions were Christian motivated. AS I’ve already stated. You’re blaming Christianity just because people claimed to be Christians.

            In fact… Cromwell’s so called “massacre” is questionable. Why? Because the accounts aren’t certain.

            Therefore; you’re grasping at straws…

            Do you blame Christianity for the so called “:invasion” of Iraq? Of course you would… because you want to blame Christianity for everything.

            Obviously your hatred of Christianity blinds you rom seeing the more horrific atrocities committed by satanic Islam.

            Understand this… The Luciferian Globalists are aiding, funding and helping satanic Islam expand across this planet. NOT Christianity!

            You say… “Both religions always have been, and still are, a blight on the face of humanity that is long overdue being eradicated.”
            What an asinine comment. “Eradicated” how?
            So… your hypocrisy shows… “Kill everyone because you hate how they’ve killed!”

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            1) The first Crusade (1096 – 1099) was carried out by Christians, NOT Romans. The massacre occurred on 15th July 1099. Get an education!

            2) The Albigensian Crusade, ordered by Pope Innocent III to eliminate dissenting ideology within Catholicism. The Church decided to use force to either convert or to eliminate the declared heretic followers of Catharism. Get an education!

            Cromwells actions in Ireland include massacres at Drogheda and Wexford, for which Cromwell, in true Christian fashion always denied responsibility, however his own reports indicate that the massacres were a deliberate policy and there were 600,000 deaths out of a total population of 1,400,000 at the start of the campaign. Get an education!

            “You’re blaming Christianity just because people claimed to be Christians.” No, I am however holding Christians responsible for the actions carried out by Christians. You do not get to sweep the unpleasantries under the carpet by glibly stating “They were not true Christians” at every atrocity. For 1800 years Christianity condoned and encouraged slavery, so you cannot claim the moral high ground because Granville Sharpe and William Wilberforce were Christians. Get an education!

            “What an asinine comment. “Eradicated” how?”

            Once education started to be taken out of the hands of the church elites, science and engineering began to prosper. The higher the level of education in scientific and engineering fields the greater the tendency towards Atheism. It was a religious leader that declared that “Mathematics is the language of the devil”, and as a consequence Islam ceased to be a supporter of enlightenment and became that which you so sensibly abhor. If only you could see how abhorrent your own religion looks to its victims. How to eradicate religion? Simple. Only religions consider killing solves a problem, Get an education!

          • sumsrent

            “massacring Jewish women and children in the sanctuary of Herods temple”

            That temple was destroyed in 70AD!

            Obviously you’re mixing up stories and confused… [oh... highly educated one.]

            Now then… the year 1069 was 300 years after the beginning of the Islamic Jihadic Conquests.

            Even still…, Cromwell’s actions were said to be done in revenge. And he was obviously politically and militarily motivated beyond his religious beliefs.

            Which makes you a LIAR! A distorter of the truth!

            Those 600,000 deaths you claim weren’t all deaths!

            Christian Forums Reports:

            “the war of 1641-53 had resulted in the death or exile of over 600,000 people…”

            “Death or exile” <<<You do know the difference… aye?

            In Wexford… it was 2,000.

            Wow!… you have an innate ability to inflate numbers! Don't cha?

            Moving on… you say… "Islam ceased to be a supporter of enlightenment and became [the satanic entity that it is]"

            Is that like the muslims refusing to take polio vaccinations, because they believe the Infidels are out to get them?

            Ugh… you ain't real bright… are you?

            You say… " If only you could see how abhorrent your own religion looks to its victims."
            You mean when Christians put a stop on the bullies like the satanic Islamic Conquests?
            Maybe you haven't heard? satanic muslims always play the victim role after they inflict their bullying tactics.

            Finally… you add… "Only religions consider killing solves a problem,"

            What???

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            “That temple was destroyed in 70AD!”
            And are you certain that nobody thought to build on the site? The Temple mount still stands, has the wailing wall as its Western end, The Temple mount was considered as the holiest site of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam at the time of the First Crusade, and the inviolability of holy sites as sanctuary had previously been sacrosanct.

            Your claim that Cromwells actions were justified as revenge raises three main points
            1) The women and children of Drogheda (Leinster province) were not the perpetrators of the incident in Ulster that Cromwell used as justification for murder, and the Wexford massacre happened during the truce while the garrison was arranging its surrender.
            2) Killing priests to prevent freedom of religion, crop burning, and enforced servitude (slavery) in an area called “the Fever Islands” would now be classed as ETHNIC CLEANSING.
            3) The act of taking revenge for some previous offence contravenes the instructions of some guy in your own holy book (Luke 6:19)

            So we have Crusaders killing Jews because of Islamic expansion into Jewish territories, and Cromwell killing women and children in Leinster because of something that happened in Ulster, and you think that Christians have the moral high ground.

            And what is your excuse for ignoring the Albigensian Crusade, or the Alhambra decree, or the biological warfare carried out by Protestant missionaries against North American Indians.

          • sumsrent

            1) You’re backtracking… attempting to cover up your distortions. You said Herod’s Temple… not Temple mount… and not whether I’m certain of what was built afterwards.
            2) I never said Cromwell’s actions were “justified”… [but your figures were still lies.]
            3) Your position against Christians and Cromwell seems contradictory. Considering it was Christians against Christians. And there remains conflicting stories about the women and children.
            Remember this… Cromwell’s actions were more political and military than anything.
            You’re still grasping at straws…
            4) I already addressed your crusades issues…
            Try again… because I find that you’re embarrassing yourself.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            1) more than nine hundred years after the mass murder of women and children by Christians you pretend that it didn’t happen because I used the old name for the site of the murder.
            2) Being sent to be worked to death is not the same as being killed? Tell that to the Jews who died in the labor camps.
            3)The fact that Christians kill those they call heretics as enthusiastically as they kill non Christians just shows how dedicated they are to their “Cult of Death”
            4) Not all crusades were conducted against Islam. They did however all result in mass murders in the name of the “Cult of Death”
            Pope Urban II was not a Muslim when he sent Crusaders to kill Jews in the First Crusade. And killing Jews did nothing to force Muslims to convert to Christianity.
            Pope Innocent III was not a Muslim when he ordered the extermination of the population of the Languedoc region of France, and this genocide was not in response to the activities of Muslims.
            The Alhambra decree abrogating the terms of the treaty of Granada was enacted against the Jews of Spain by Christians, not Muslims. The Inquisitors that followed were Catholic priests, not Islamic Imams.
            While you are correct in your statement that Islamic expansionism has been responsible for many atrocities, it is a matter of historical record that Christianity has been responsible for the larger number of atrocities in the name of their “Cult of Death” for example, the murder of 150 Jews at Cliffords Tower in York on 16th March 1190, or the massacre of Ayyadieh which occurred on 20th August 1191 when over 3,000 men, women, and children were killed by Crusaders purely to taunt Saladin.
            All of the evidence is available in things called History Books. Get an Education.

          • sumsrent

            Get your stories straight!

            You say… “more than nine hundred years after the mass murder”
            What???

            The First Crusade was about getting Jerusalem back from the muslims. In response to the satanic muslims ongoing Jihadic Conquests push for world domination. Which we are seeing today!

            In fact… as I add up your figures… they still fall extremely short on just one event of the Islamic two million massacre of the Christian Armenians.

            Evidence shows that Islam is responsible for over 270 million deaths over the course of history! Second in line… Stalin with 80 million.

            Therefore; as you say… “Christianity has been responsible for the larger number of atrocities.” <<< IT'S A LIE!
            Looks like to me you'll need to redirect your attention to the true satanic culprit in this world… Islam.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            “The First Crusade was about getting Jerusalem back from the muslims.” So why was it that the first thing that the Crusaders did after getting their orders from the Pope was to go on a spree killing Jews throughout Germany, as well as in Metz (France) and Prague (Czech). Likewise at the outset of the Second Crusade the Jews in France, and for the Third to focus of massacring Jews moved to England, followed by a repeat of France. Please enlighten me as to how massacring Jews in Europe will help to turn back the Muslim hordes.
            In 1349 In more than 350 towns in Germany all Jews were murdered, mostly burned alive (in this one year more
            Jews were killed than Christians were in 200 years of ancient Roman persecution of Christians). These were Jews, NOT Muslims, and they were killed by Christians NOT Muslims
            In the Albigensian Crusade Pope Innocent III ordered the extermination of the Cathars. The city of Beziers was annihilated with all of its population (up to 70,000). Half of the population of the Languedoc region was wiped out in this one campaign (1,000,000 people dead)
            Following the Alhambra decree in 1492, the Spanish Inquisitor Torquemada alone was responsible for 10,220 burnings of conversos.
            You are concerned about the massacre of 2 million Christians in Armenia while ignoring the 200 million that were killed by Christians in America, or do Native Americans not count. (Matthew7:5-7). On Hispaniola alone the entire population of approximately 8 million were exterminated within twenty five years meaning that African slaves had to be imported. This was repeated on other Caribbean islands.
            As recently as 1994 Catholic priests and Benedictines were actively involved in the ethnic cleansing in Rwanda while preaching the Christian virtues.

          • sumsrent

            I already proved to you that your 70,000 figures are lies!

            Now you claim “200 million… native Americans”??? BY Christians???

            You are a liar!

            And 8 million on Hispaniola??? “Exterminated”??? Those who died by “violence, disease, and despair”.

            SCUDDER>>> YOU ARE A LIAR!!!

            Also… it was the satanic worshiping muslims who controlled the African Trans Atlantic Slave Trade.

            Research Chinese Gordon and his attempts to intervene who was then slaughtered by muslims for getting in the way of their slave market.

            Get this… none of your stories are evidence of Christian motivation. Even the Rwanda massacre was quite like Syria today… a minority ruling over a majority. Except… Syria is about Sunni vs. Shite & Infidels. <<< All about the satanic religion of Islam.

            And since you live in the past and lie about Christians being "commanded to kill"…

            Let's look at the current news…

            TROP Reports… 22,218 deadly horrific terrorist attacks since 9/11/2001… <<< (And that ain't a body count!)

            1) 1/7/2014… Sunni fundamentalists cut the throats of six Sufis for visiting a shrine.

            2) 1/6/2014… Thirty villagers are massacred by Fulani raiders.

            3) 1/6/2014… A 14-year-old boy bleeds to death following a suicide bombing at his school.

            4) 1/5/2014… al-Qaeda gunmen summarily execute six civilians.

            5) 1/4/2014… A man drinking tea at a shop is shot three times in the head by Muslim terrorists.

            6) 1/3/2014… Muslim Brotherhood activists shoot dead a man who 'yelled insults' from the window of his house.
            Now these Scudder… are acts committed by satanic worshipping muslims who ARE commanded to kill for allah.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            “I already proved to you that your 70,000 figures are lies!”

            Did you really? When and where? What you did was try to exclude people forcibly worked to death from the figures for those killed, which is the equivalent of not counting the Jews who died in the labour camps because they didn’t end up trying to breathe ZyklonB.

            “Now you claim “200 million… native Americans”??? BY Christians???” Yes I do, and there is documentary evidence for this claim. Documents written by the perpetrators themselves. Many of them were actually proud of what they had done, and yes the 8 million in Hispaniola were a part of that count. Again the actual way they were killed does not alter the fact that they were killed. All of them. Dead.

            And it does not make your stupid denial of the fact somehow valid if you use the caps lock key.

            “Research Chinese Gordon and his attempts to intervene who was then
            slaughtered by muslims for getting in the way of their slave market.”

            I am fully aware of the achievements of Charles Gordon, and also when and where he died. While he had done much to disrupt the slave trade his death came about because as an evangelical Christian, he tried to convert Mahdi Muhammad Ahmad to Christianity. To do this he intervened in local religious affairs in direct contravention of his orders to leave Khartoum. He tried to spread Christianity using the threat of force and got what he deserved when the Muslims resisted.

            Understand this, every time you sweep Christian atrocities under the carpet, or pretend that Christians were justified in their actions you make the same excuses for the Islamic fundamentalists that you hate so vehemently. Unlike you I am not trying to discount murder and genocide. Every time you deny the crimes committed by Christians you allow others to deny the crimes committed by Muslims. When you claim “Those were not true Christians”, you allow an Islamic apologist to claim “Those were not true Muslims”
            Going back to the events of the First Crusade, A Muslim killing a Christian does not justify a Christian retaliating by killing a Jew. And that is exactly what happened. Christians slaughtered German Jews before setting off to Jerusalem (Where they slaughtered some more Jews, just because they could)
            If you want to try to find historical evidence contradicting this feel free but dont just go capslock and cry liar without evidence. It shows you up as the spoiled little brat you really are.

          • sumsrent

            Exposing your lies and distortions doesn’t make me a “brat” it makes you a liar!
            Your historical reasoning is slanted. You keep acting as if the so called First Crusade wasn’t about coming against the ongoing Islamic Jihadic Conquests. And then acting as if only the Christian world is responsible for all those deaths.

            Sounds quite similar to the media of today’s world. Where all the deaths in the ME are counted against the American Troops… even knowing that more muslims are killed by other muslims than anything or anyone.

            Therefore… when you intentionally distort and inflate the figures to maximize your position and hatred of Christianity… that makes you a LIAR!

            And what’s so bizarre… even though Christianity hasn’t handled every incidence over the course of history most appropriately… you act as if Christianity is the worlds problems. Totally based on unclear and debatable info from the past… and never focusing on the Islamic worlds agenda of today.

            For example… accusing Christianity as the culprits behind the Native American’s in history. Also making the claim that Christians are “commanded to kill”… and stating that I said… “Those were not true Christians” <<< Pure distortions and lies!
            Even your moniker exposes your anti-religious agenda! Which is more focused against Christianity.
            Get this Scudder… Christians might speak out against the bigoted demented Homo's… but across the world… muslims are killing them!
            So who is your real threat?

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            “So who is your real threat?”
            All of the theofascists are an equal threat. There is absolutely no difference between the Jihadist and the Crusader, since they both routinely kill indiscriminately and casually, and grant themselves forgiveness in the name of a deity that cannot exist. Any deity seeing the last seventeen hundred years of history and how we abuse its name would have disposed of all of us long ago
            You keep going on about how evil the Muslims are but you are no better. If you want to show an example of a loving god you should not need to keep pointing out other peoples flaws to try to mitigate your own.
            As to your statements about my hatred of Christianity you are totally wrong. I take my lead from a Hindu on the subject of Christianity, even though I am not Hindu.

            “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” (M. K. Gandhi.)
            I do not hate Christians, but I have learned to fear them. I just wish that they would follow the teachings of Christ, You may have heard of him, they named a religion after him.

            I am not biased against Christianity, but when somebody tries to claim the moral high ground they had better be certain that they have earned it or I will point out their hypocrisy., but until you can recognise the mistakes of your past you are doomed to repeat them until your deity goes the way of Marduk or Horus, or Zeus.

          • sumsrent

            Wrong!

            You are biased against Christianity… only ever pointing out it’s wrong doings, even distorting the numbers to make your case.

            When we all know that satanic Islam was and still is maintaining their horrific agenda of enslaving, raping, maiming, mutilating, bombing, massacring and killing non-innocent Infidels.

            You say… “There is absolutely no difference between the Jihadist and the Crusader.”
            Wrong again! The satanic worshipping Jihadist has a deadly agenda of world domination which includes better rewards in a fake paradise for martyrdom. In other words… the only for sure way for a muslim to get into that satanic paradise is to become a martyr.
            Christians have no need for world domination… only to spread the gospel.
            BIG difference!
            A radical terrorizing devout to the satanic Quran muslim is commanded to dominate the world and kill for allah.
            Christians await their Messiah to take care of His business.
            Scudder… you really are ignorant. You must be educated… aye?

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            “You say… “There is absolutely no difference between the Jihadist and the Crusader.”

            A Crusader is a Christian Jihadist, and a Jihadist is a Muslim Crusader. Both seek to spread their hate filled prejudices by means of force, terror, rape, torture and murder.

            “Christians have no need for world domination… only to spread the gospel. Which isn’t even a commandment!
            BIG difference!”
            Muslims seek to spread their filthy ‘poison of the mind’ by violence in exactly the same manner that Christians have been doing since before Islam was born.
            NO difference”

            “A radical terrorizing devout to the satanic Quran muslim is commanded to dominate the world and kill for allah.”
            Matthew 10 : 34-39 Is Christianitys justification for genocide

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            “1) They were spreading their religion by the sword just as the Christians were in the habit of doing. <<< [Lie]"
            Pagan services became punishable by death in 356. FACT
            Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) had children executed, because they had been playing with
            remains of pagan statues.FACT.
            In 6th century pagans were declared void of all rights.FACT
            In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on demand of Christian authorities. FACT
            Emperor Charlemagne in 782 had 4500 Saxons, unwilling to convert to Christianity, beheaded. FACT

            "2) The first thing that the Christians did to weaken the Muslim caliphs was to round up and massacre the Jews of Germany. <<< [Lie]"
            The call for the First Crusade touched off the Rhineland massacres. As part of this persecution, the destruction of the three towns of Speyer, Worms and Mainz were key events. Even the Pope has acknowledged it as an atrocity, but you persist in shoving your fingers in your ears and screaming LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE! LIE! like the ignorant child that you truly are.

            "The Islamic Jihadist Conquests started centuries before the First Crusade was implemented…" True enough but that doesn't excuse the actions of Christians in 1099, and the Albigensian Crusade was Christian on Christian, nothing to do with Islam at all. You are like a toddler screaming "He did it first"to justify your offences. The simple fact remains that Christians were carrying out atrocities before Muhammad was a twinkle in his fathers eye. I am fully aware of the history of Islam, and fully recognise that it is almost as obscene as that of Christianity.

            I do not need to paint a bad picture on Christianity, the Christians have done a thorough job of that already, usually in the blood of innocents.

            If you look at the history of your religion you will see that it consists of seventeen hundred years of lying, rape, torture, murder, and genocide inflicted by christians against Pagans, Christians, Jews, Christians, Muslims, Christians, Animists, Christians, Hindus, Christians, Buddhists, Christians, Zoroastrians, and guess what….. Christians.
            Religious people committing atrocities is not only condoned by their respective holy books, it is ordained by their holy books.
            Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

          • sumsrent

            1) What makes this a lie is that you said… “spreading their religion by the sword just as the Christians were in the habit of doing.”
            Get this… No where quite the same… you exaggerate! And your given examples are petty in comparison. Evidently you don’t know much about the Islamic Jihadic Conquests.
            2) What makes this a lie…
            A) “Weaken muslim caliphs”… it had nothing to do with Islam.
            B) The massacre of those Jews was for other reasons.
            C) You still act as if the pope had ordered those killings. As you said… >>> “Maybe he did… maybe he didn’t.”
            Note: And your original comment could easily be taken to mean you were implying that the pope ordered those killings. Read it again and see how I saw it.
            3) No body is trying to excuse Christian history! But you, like so many focus on Christianity and neglect to mention the FAR WORSE satanic Islam!
            Is that caused by your brainwashing? Of course it is!
            4) No where in the New Testament does it command Christians to kill. You keep saying that… and it is also a lie.
            Now consider how Islam is responsible fore over 270 million deaths… and Stalin comes in second with 60-80 million.
            Islam is responsible for the deaths of 120 Africans… 60 million Christians… 80 million Hindus… and 10 million Buddhists… and that list is growing everyday!
            Now consider who’s doing all the killing in the world today? Don’t tell me you believe that the fake War on Terror and the acts in the ME are Christian movements!? Typical antichristian behavior! Blame the Christians for everything while you turn a blind eye to satanic Islam.
            And that’s how most of you antichristians work… because so and so was a Christian he/she was doing the bidding of Christianity.
            WRONG! Only Islam commands to kill in order to forward it’s religious government!!!
            Christians don’t have to do one thing except spread the gospel. BIG difference… and that is NOT even a command!
            But you keep focusing on Christianity anyways… aye?
            So where does Christianity fall on that chart? Go ask Acharya Murdock? Seems you are either that antichristian star gazing Bigot or a copy & paste azzwipe lemming of hers…

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            1) First you claimed that there were no examples of Christianity being spread by force and murder, now you say the examples I found after five minutes of fact checking are exaggerations. I could do further research if necessary but I have already demonstrated that I didn’t lie. Your (lack of) apology is noted. And yes I am aware of the forced spread of Islam, I have actually commented on it as being obscene.

            2) Yes, I know that the mass murder of German Jews had nothing to do with Islam. It was an entirely Christian atrocity for which the Muslims bear no responsibility. The murders were committed in the name of Christianity with the full support of the Pope. Had he opposed it, the first excommunication of the perpetrators would have stopped the murders escalating to genocide. The later Albigensian Crusade and its genocide were on the direct written orders of the Pope.
            3)You claim that nobody is trying to excuse Christian history and then open section 4 of your apologia for genocide by airbrushing out ALL of the crimes committed in the name of your dead god. You point to the 60 to 80 million that you claim puts Stalin in second place TOTALLY IGNORING the 200 million committed in the “New World” since 1642. Just adding the Jews killed by Christians moves towards the 270 million victims of Islam, and adding the 20 – 30 million of the Taiping rebellion easily exceeds Islams score. Add to that the battles between different groups of Christians and you can see that Christianity easily takes first place, even without adding the Pagans, Hindus, Buddhists etc. killed by Christians in holy wars.
            Your claim that Christians are not forced to spread thir beliefs by force actually makes their crimes worse, since it becomes clear that they commit these atrocities as a matter of choice, because they want to commit genocide, making your view of Christians even more of a condemnation of them than I proposed.
            Are you saying they committed these atrocities because
            a) they were under orders from a higher power
            b) it seemed like a good idea at the time
            c) they were bored, and just felt like it
            You seem to be implying that if you discount (a) it makes it all go away. It doesn’t.

          • sumsrent

            1) Your early comments were in reference and comparison to the Islamic Jihadic Conquests… which were the actual “spreaders by the sword”.

            The crusades were an “Defensive” act… not conquests!

            Creation Worldview Reports:

            “The crusaders were reacting to over four centuries of relentless Islamic Jihad, which had wiped out over 50% of all the Christians in the world and conquered over 60% of all the Christian lands on earth – before the crusades even began. Many of the towns liberated by the crusaders were still over 90% Christian when the crusaders arrived.

            These Muslim invaders destroyed over 3,200 Christian churches just in the first 100 years of Islam.”

            ===============================

            2) As I’ve exposed your lies… you stated clearly that the pope had ordered the killing of the Jews. Which had nothing to do with the Crusades against the muslims. Don’t try to twist my words… liar!

            3) The “spreading of Christianity by the sword”… wouldn’t apply in the so called “Albigensian Crusade” since it was Christians against Christians.

            Maybe you need to learn what the “Crusades” were… and what “:spreading by the sword” means… aye?

            A) Encyclopedia Britannica Reports:

            “Crusades, military expeditions, beginning in the late 11th century, that were organized by Western Christians in response to centuries of Muslim wars of expansion.” <<< "Muslim wars" doesn't make the Albigensian event a Crusade… aye?

            B) Dr. Richard Abels Reports:

            "The crusades were a series of holy wars called by popes with the promise of indulgences for those who fought in them and directed against external and internal enemies of Christendom for the recovery of Christian property or in defense of the Church or Christian people." <<< That doesn't make the Crusades anymore an Albigensian event either…

            4) In NO WAY can you make the claim that the native Americans persecutions and deaths were done in the name of Christianity! Therefore; your 200 million figure is NOT applicable!

            5) You say… "Your claim that Christians are not forced to spread thir beliefs by force actually makes their crimes worse…"
            Ugh… Christianity is NOT forced to spread their beliefs!
            Do you have a comprehension problem?

            Remember… you made the claim that "Christians are commanded to kill"… which is a lie!

            I've asked you to provide evidence and you keep skirting around doing so.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            “The crusades were an ‘Defensive’ act… not conquests!” And the poor helpless Christians ‘defended’ themselves from Islamic aggression in Jerusalem by killing Jews in Germany. Christian love and charity at its finest. Now tell me how killing 4,500 Saxons in 782 for refusing to convert to Christianity was an act of defence against rampant Islam

            “As I’ve exposed your lies… you stated clearly that the pope had ordered the killing of the Jews. Which had nothing to do with the Crusades against the muslims. Don’t try to twist my words… liar!”

            The Pope ordered the Crusade. The crusaders started by killing Jews in Germany. The Pope acquiesced, thus condoning the murders carried out following his orders. Had he excommunicated the first crusader found murdering innocents, the killing of Jews would have stopped. As it was it continued unchecked, right up until Hitlers gas chambers.

            “The “spreading of Christianity by the sword”… wouldn’t apply in the so called “Albigensian Crusade” since it was Christians against Christians.” In seeking to eradicate what the pope classed as heresy they sought to impose his ‘flavour’ of Christianity. Just as later Popes demanded the eradication of Lutherans, Calvinists, Anglicans, Huguenots, and others that they considered ‘not true Christians’, therefore needing to be converted. Your own article by Richard Abels. ‘directed against external and internal enemies’ clearly fixes the genocide of the Cathars as a Crusade.

            “In NO WAY can you make the claim that the native Americans persecutions and deaths were done in the name of Christianity!”
            On every island he set foot on, Columbus planted a cross, making the declarations

            “I certify to you that, with the help of God, we shall powerfully enter in your country and shall make war against you … and shall subject you to the yoke and obedience of the Church … and shall do you all mischief that we can, as to vassals who do not obey and refuse to receive their lord and resist and contradict him.” Seems conclusive to me.
            The fact remains that whether by command or by choice Christians routinely practice genocide in the furtherance of their religion. And I am not the one skirting around seventeen hundred years of Christian history, making lame excuses and pretending that it never happened.

          • sumsrent

            The pope did NOT order the killing of Jews in Germany! You are a liar!

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t, but do you know how many people he excommunicated for the crime?
            You could count them on the fingers of one foot, so he is guilty by his tacit complicity.

          • sumsrent

            My you’re wishy washy…
            Get this… The pope did NOT order the killing of Jews in Germany.
            Evidently you don’t grasp what went on and what happened at that time. Research it… because you’re making up stories… and then get back with me.

          • sumsrent

            I knew you had made the comment…

            “Pope Urban II was not a Muslim when he sent Crusaders to kill Jews in the First Crusade.”
            Here it is… just took some time to find it… which is more evidence that you’re a liar!

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            So you are claiming that Pope Urban III WAS a Muslim???
            Or are you denying that the First Crusade opened with the slaughter of thousands of German Jews, that the Pope did nothing to abate.
            Pope Urban gave orders, Christians responded, Jews died, dead Jews were ignored.The pinnacle of Christian love and charity.

          • sumsrent

            The pope didn’t order anyone to kill Jews!
            Backtrack as far as you can… liar!

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            It has always been official policy within the Catholic Church that “Jews killed our messiah”.
            Urban gave orders for the Crusade.
            Crusaders immediately started killing Jews.
            Urban was aware of this genocide.
            URBAN DID NOTHING
            This constitutes an acceptance of the fact, especially since had he excommunicated somebody, the practise of genocide would have stopped immediately, if not sooner.
            In the meantime Innocent III very definitely gave the orders that led to the extermination of a large portion of the population of Languedoc (Southern France) who were also not Muslims.
            There was also a Papal order to exterminate the English, but the English made their objection known to Spain.
            These are matters of historical record and all of your crying will not alter the FACTS

          • factsobill

            A braying Trollhole, you are! Take your fractured, misinformed and bizarre claims of education, and wash your mouth for LYING!

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            The information that I cited comes from the Christian records of the day where the perpetrators of these incidents *boast* about what they have done. The exception to the boasting comes from the ethinic cleansing in Rwanda where the Catholic church is reluctantly being pressed into admitting their involvement. It has taken almost two thousand years but it seems that progress is being made and churches are finally learning to be ashamed of their shameful actions.

            Unless of course you have evidence that I am wrong

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            “Now then… the year 1069 was 300 years after the beginning of the Islamic Jihadic Conquests.” The Crusades began when Pope Urban II (A Christian) responded to requests for military support against the Muslins. (They were spreading their religion by the sword just as the Christians were in the habit of doing) The first thing that the Christians did to weaken the Muslim caliphs was to round up and massacre the Jews of Germany. It seems that it is not merely your god that moves in mysterious ways

            “the war of 1641-53 had resulted in the death or exile of over 600,000 people…” Exile sounds so gentle and forgiving doesn’t it? Exile doesn’t mean having to live a comfortable, pampered existence in a foreign country. For the Irish Catholic victims of Cromwell it primarily meant penal servitude, dying at sea on route to the American penal colonies.

          • sumsrent

            You still tell distorted lies…

            You say…
            1) They were spreading their religion by the sword just as the Christians were in the habit of doing. <<< [Lie]

            2) The first thing that the Christians did to weaken the Muslim caliphs was to round up and massacre the Jews of Germany. <<< [Lie]

            Face the fact Scudder… you're a liar! However you want to spin history… The Islamic Jihadist Conquests started centuries before the First Crusade was implemented…

            The year was 630… and the Christians waited until 1095 or 1096 [sources say differently] to put a stop to it.
            You ignore the horrific actions of the satanic muslims just to paint a bad picture on Christianity.
            Get a life. You're a lousy Defender! And a proven distorter and liar!

          • factsobill

            You’re a trollhole, STFU!

          • Goten Son

            Does it really matter?

          • factsobill

            The Conquistadores were sent to the New World in 1492. There were Jesuits in every foray into the new world! If you research the relationship between King Charles and Queen Isabella and the Pope In those days, you’ll find they considered themselves more powerful than the Pope and started the Spanish Inquisition without his blessing! These are just a few facts that make your last paragraph laughable!

          • sumsrent

            My last paragraph? From what comment?

    • Harvey Melton

      since you also are Hindu please post your fact sources for the bigoted information you are trying to pass off as truth.ty

      • Nehemiah Scudder

        I have read the holy book that was used to indoctrinate me into the beliefs of my ancestors, and studied it intently. I found that it was a far from holy book, filled with hate, lies, contradictions, and historical inaccuracies. The book in question was one I now refer to as “the wholly babble”
        One thing that I learned was that “with or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion” (Quote from Steven Weinberg)
        I did not quote from Hinduism. Confucius was not a Hindu, and Rén is a philosophy, not a religion. Your failure to understand these facts shows the difference between education and indoctrination

    • Harvey Melton

      and be reminded that there are good people and bad people in all societies or you have refused to believe that and accepted the belief of a lie to go along with the hate that you so readily promote I think you my friend as we all should, go back and study and meditate on your own holy book, as long as it truly is a Holy book and do not blaspheme God any further or you will bind your very soul to hell my friend go study some more and get things right before you come and make such a public spectacle of yourself or were you taught better? yes? then remember those teachings and adhere to them. Ty.

  • Nehemiah Scudder

    Considering the morality shown by your deity in its holy book, and by its followers in the last seventeen hundred years, you have a very suspect code of morals.

  • Nehemiah Scudder

    You state that a business should be permitted to serve somebody based on who he/she cuddles up to at night in the privacy of his/her own bed. Would you be as comfortable with this right of discrimination would then justify refusing to serve niggers? Or even allow them to sit at the front of the bus, or use the white folks drinking fountains. You are a recidivist and a dishonest one at that when you call somebody a Nazi when they seek to end your privileged status by introducing equality for all.

    • Harvey Melton

      I see you are pretty vile in your choice of words but me, I don’t care who does what as long as they don’t try to force their lifestyle on me, period.

      • Nehemiah Scudder

        I deliberately used the old fashioned terms to make you realise just how vile the attitude of people like Shoebat currently is. I remember these terms being commonplace and shouted at black schoolchildren as they went to white schools.The fact that what loving Christians were quite happy to scream at children is now considered vile, shows that progress has been made. Allowing blacks to travel at the front of the bus didn’t result in the collapse of civilisation, and nobody is trying to force you to turn queer.

  • Nehemiah Scudder

    “They are perverts,and gay men are into young boys. That is a fact!”
    You seem to be confusing gay men with the catholic priesthood. There is no evidence of a greater tendency toward pedophilia in homosexuals than in heterosexuals, or do you simply close your eyes and ears when little girls get raped by a male pedophile. Homosexuals who find a homosexual pedophile treat himno differently than hetero males would treat a heterosexual pedophile. This comes from police reports involving investigations into child sex attacks and also murders of known pedophiles. You claim otherwise, cite your sources or be exposed as a liar

  • Nehemiah Scudder

    The right that you are being deprived of, namely the “right2 to be discriminatory is not a right but a privilege. Are you upset that the law that prevents you refusing to rent to a queer also prevents you from refusing to rent to a nigger? Do you want your pointy hood back?

    • sumsrent

      Privilege? So then… the Bigoted Demented Minority Homo lifestyle isn’t a “right” either… but a “privilege”… aye?
      Wow! You tend to trip over your words a lot… aye?

      • Nehemiah Scudder

        For hundreds of years, heterosexual white males like myself have been free to marry the partner of their choosing, while homosexual males were killed or imprisoned, but things are changing.
        Marriage equality will allow homosexuals to enter a marriage with the consenting partner of their own choosing, just like I can, and indeed did.
        Equal rights means precisely what it says. Equal means that we all have the same, and rights means that they cannot be legally prevented. That means left handed people have the same rights as right handed people, females are even allowed to vote these days, and blacks are allowed to move to the front of the bus. The rules that used to prevent these things were privileges held by right handed white males
        You will not be required to divorce your wife and marry a man, nobody is making homosexuality compulsory.
        Are you really so uncertain of your sexual orientation that you need a law to keep you straight? Or are you afraid that your wife will leave you and set up home with another woman.
        Demanding equal treatment under the law is a constitutional right in USA, opposing equal treatment is bigotry anywhere in the world. Just be grateful that the queers aren’t after the right to interfere in your sex life as you seem to think you have the privilege to interfere in theirs

  • Harvey Melton

    as mentioned in the article it is the sodomite that is worthy of death and in many societies they are put to death there is no feel good drugs or therapy given because they know that it is just a waste. Actually these people or group of male and female homosexuals disagree with God not Phil, oh yeah they all try to hide behind a object of hate such as Phil but their argument is with God not man.they will answer to God for their lifestyle choice and their hatred because of it which is demonically controlled there are many types of fallen angels with many types of responsibilities and characteristics their sole purpose is to enslave and blind and drag down to hell any person rather than see that person repent and enter into a right relationship with GOD. But in this country so far everyone is entitled to their opinion, right or wrong. words are just words, if people allow themselves to be ruled by words then they are very thin skinned emotionally.

    • FuzzysDaddy

      you belong in one of those societies ,, along with your boyfriends …

      • Harvey Melton

        since when does this society put homosexuals to death? I was thinking of the avg muslim society where they do put homosexuals to death.

        • FuzzysDaddy

          because we know that you like sex with young boys .. for that you should be shot ….

  • Nehemiah Scudder

    There is more evidence of children being molested by priests than there is of gays having been molested as children.
    If the lie about molestation being the cause of homosexuality had any truth to it why does the church put so much effort into creating the very people that it condemns.

  • Hazakim Mike-Tony

    For those who compare homosexual “marriage rights” to so called “interracial” marriage rights:

    What do Puerto Rico, Colombia, Dominican Republic, Trinidad, Honduras, Brazil, Morocco, Lybia, Tunisia, South Africa (coloureds) and Cape Verde all have in common? They are all nations, societies, cultures who owe their very EXISTENCE to a long history of so called “interracial marriage”. Now, please list a single nation or people who owe their existence to gay marriage…..better yet, please name a single civilization that has ever redefined marriage the way you do?

    You use one of the youngest nations on the earth (America), with it’s unique history of racial segregation & JIm Crowe to compare mixed marriages with HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE!?!? Are you kidding me? People of various colors and hues have been marrying and making babies since the begininning of time. Here are some undeniable facts to consider:

    1) A black person and white person of the opposite sex can create babies. This is impossible with homosexual and inter-species unions (outside of resorting to some new advanced science techniques which are really quite bizzare). Nature has boundaries built into it for a reason.

    2) The majority of the earth is middle brown (beige) in color. Black and white people simply create offspring whose phenotype and look are seen in the majority of the world.

    3) God condemns homosexual unions but AFFIRMED the union of Moses (a middle eastern Jew) and his Sudanese African (very black) wife in Numbers 12 – and even judged Moses’ sibblings for their cultural elitist attitudes.

    Jim Crow south is NOT the history of this planet. Please don’t compare apples to pineapples. And as a man who is a blend of Middle Eastern, Italian, Jamaican, and Portuguese roots, I take exception to your absurd comparison.

    • FuzzysDaddy

      whattza matter mikey ? your boyfriend not use lube last night ? we know your a caulk suking-homo ……

      • Hazakim Mike-Tony

        Don’t you just love it when your opponent concedes defeat? Nothing is a clearer sign of defeat than the inability to deconstruct and argument which results in childish personal attacks.

        See this people? FuzzyDaddy is a sick homosexual pervert. He’s mad because my argument is iron-clad and cannot be deconstructed. Therfore, out of his twisted, perverse mind, he spews some sick perverse insults. Insults, btw, which we all know he’d never dare utter to my face (unless he were with 50 of his leather underwear wearing friends).

        This is a clear sign of a failed argument – personal attacks without a single word to deconstruct my indisputable, undeniable, rock-solid, iron clad argumentation. Thanks Fuzzy for proving how sick the left is.

        • FuzzysDaddy

          sure thing wingnut ,, : ) you closet homo’s crack me up . keep denying you stalk young boys , we already know you do …

          • Hazakim Mike-Tony

            So by using homosexuality as a put down or negative accusation…and equating it with “stalking young buys”, fuzzy indirectly admits that homosexuality is perverse and is something to be ashamed of. Thank you fuzz for making my point even stronger…and this, coming from a gay white liberal, nonetheless!

          • Hazakim Mike-Tony

            Wingnut….corny suburan slang. Right up there with “dweeb” and “douche bag”. One look at me coming towards him on a dark street and fuzzy would spill his Starbucks all over his Old Navy corduroys and run for his life, I’m sure. He’s the kind of gay guy who doesn’t miss a Comicon and watches reruns of Fraiser.

          • Hazakim Mike-Tony

            A proponent of homosexual perversion accuses me of being gay in order to slander me….in so doing he admits there is something wrong with homosexuality and equates it with “stalking young boys”….the irony is inescapable.

        • Ginger Martinez

          interesting thing about him is I think he is against homosexuality. however, it is hard to tell anything about his stance as he has not said anything other than insults. Very juvenile and stupid ones at that.

  • Hazakim Mike-Tony

    For those that compare so called “gay marriage rights” to so called “interracial” marriages:

    What do Puerto Rico, Colombia, Dominican Republic, Trinidad, Honduras, Brazil, Morocco, Lybia, Tunisia, South Africa (coloureds) and Cape Verde all have in common? They are all nations, societies, cultures who owe their very EXISTENCE to a long history of so called “interracial marriage”. Now genius, please list a single nation or people who owe their existence to gay marriage…..better yet, please name a single civilization that has ever redefined marriage the way you do?

    You use one of the youngest nations on the earth (America), with it’s unique history of racial segregation & JIm Crowe to compare mixed marriages with HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE!?!? Are you kidding me? People of various colors and hues have been marrying and making babies since the begininning of time. Here are some undeniable facts to consider:

    1) A black person and white person of the opposite sex can create babies. This is impossible with homosexual and inter-species unions (outside of resorting to some new advanced science techniques which are really quite bizzare).

    2) The majority of the earth is middle brown (beige) in color. Black and white people simply create offspring whose phenotype and look are seen in the majority of the world.

    3) God condemns homosexual unions but AFFIRMED the union of Moses (a middle eastern Jew) and his black African Sudanese (very black) wife in Numbers 12 – and even judged Moses’ sibblings for their cultural elitist attitudes.

    Jim Crow south is NOT the history of this planet. Please don’t compare apples to pineapples. And as a man who is a blend of Middle Eastern, Italian, Jamaican, and Portugese roots, I take exception to your absurd comparison.

    • Ginger Martinez

      However, this discussion IS taking place here and the matters are similar, in how the conservative right is saying the same things as it did back then. It is a sin for a black and white to marry. Or it is unnatural for them to marry . That is why the comparison is made here. Many of the countries you mention were not integrated because of interracial marriage as much as sexual relations with one’s slave.

  • Nehemiah Scudder

    You ask where the drive for equality will stop. Perhaps when the derogatory terms for homosexuals receive the same moderation and removal as the derogatory term for people with higher levels of melanin. The removal of my comment below shows that equal rights have not yet been achieved.

  • Hazakim Mike-Tony

    Now that I’ve dealt with Nehemiah Scudder’s offensive & racist comparison of marriage to blacks and gay marriage, I have a question for the liberal:

    We say marriage is the union between 1 man and 1 wife…2 people.
    You say marriage can be the union between any……2 people.

    My question is this: since we can now define marriage as whatever we so desire, what is so special about the number 2??? Why not 5 people, 8 people, 15 people – in mutual sexual and matrimonial union? Why not an aunt and her nephew or a father & her daughter? Why not a woman & her dog?

    Since all this talk of morality is simply assumed based on antiquated & oppressive religious beliefs (based on your theory), why do we constrain the definition of marriage AT ALL? If a man wishes to marry his sister, or a woman her dog, and they are truly in love…..who are you to oppose this?

    An answer would be appreciated.

    • FuzzysDaddy

      only if you cover your sh-it in the same hole you live in ..

    • Ginger Martinez

      I believe the wording is two consenting adults. Animals and minors are not consenting adults. polygamy has been around for hundreds of thousands of years, is still legal in many cultures. In the bible how many men had multiple wives? The basis for incest being banned is because of the deformities caused by the parents being too closely related. The imperfection would intensify over generations, be it mental capacity or physical deformities. As you know many royal families kept marriage within the bloodlines resulting in many of these imperfections. Many children are abused by siblings as well as cousins, aunts, uncles etc…with perfectly healthy children being produced. However, I believe that is why it is still taboo.
      Please do not try to tell me my theory of religion or politics. You do not know them.

  • Matt Davis

    You can’t use the actions of two disgusting paedophiles to malign an entire group of people. These two deserve condemnation for what they’ve done. The vast majority of law-abiding citizens who don’t perform these acts do not deserve to be tarred with the same brush.

    • FuzzysDaddy

      your daddy is a pedopholic junky, looks like he passed on the gene ..

      • Matt Davis

        Really, was there any need for that?

        • FuzzysDaddy

          did i hurt your widdle fag feelings ? so sowwy …

      • Ginger Martinez

        Wow. that was extremely infantile and asinine. Can you read those words or are you too intellectually challenged.

  • 130 oct

    Nigs and gays are both wrong

  • FuzzysDaddy

    Phil’s actually a closet homo , he just pretends to like the beavers ..

  • FuzzysDaddy

    i hear you like the canine luving , maybe someday you will get your wish and you can then marry your dawg ,, thats if he’d have ya ..

  • FuzzysDaddy

    you’re like your hero phillypoo ,, another closet homo ..

  • iprazhm

    Being heterosexual is normal. That’s how humans are born to be, we don’t get to choose it. Anything outside of heterosexuality is abnormal and we have to choose it.

    As a species any sexual proclivity that disallows for reproduction of the species is abnormal, otherwise the species will die out, cease to exist.

    It doesn’t take rocket science to master the concept, unless you have an agenda.

    God didn’t make people gay. He created us all in His image and gave us free will to choose right from wrong. It’s all about choice. If He forced us to do His will then there would be no corruption in the world, no pain, no suffering. We feel guilt and remorse, unlike animals, for a reason. He gave humans a brain and spirit like no other of His creations, so we could choose to act on instinct like animals or use our human ability to reason and weigh consequences. We are not animals, unless we choose to be.

    We ALL love our same sex best friends and most of us would gladly give them a kidney or help them out financially or in any way they need. We love to spend time with them and trust them explicitly. But the vast majority of us know that to move that relationship of love and mutual trust into a cheapened physical sexual expression of lust is gravely inappropriate. We love our same sex best friends, our /children/pets/close family members, but we do not perform sexual acts on them.

    • Ginger Martinez

      It is actually nice to see some brain power on here even though your logic is very faulty. At least you know how to communicate. ” As a species any sexual proclivity that disallows for reproduction of the species is abnormal, otherwise the species will die out, cease to exist.” This is true only if it is the only sexual option. it is not. Just because it is different does not mean it is not natural. Many animals perform sexual acts that do not cause reproduction, but that does not mean they die out. If one pair of monkeys is heterosexual and produce offspring and the other pair is homosexual and does not produce there is still reproduction occurring. Now take it to the larger level and there are plenty of monkeys to keep up the population. What if the increase in homosexuality among animals (if there is one) is natures way of decreasing reproduction?

  • http://yahoo.com/ DustyFae

    Freedom of speech is everyone equal rights, but not the rights to commit sin, And homosexual is a sin…God will judge who will get the proper punishment for sins…And the next person who tells me the Bible is a Fairy Tale book, then prove to me why all the Bible has so much History in it that was written before the event occurred ? And why are we finding things that were buried for 100′s of years that were in the Bible but we are now finding them in hidden places now that is backing up the Bible?? So l will still believe homosexual is a sin and l will keep reading the Bible… l rather not be a person to stand up for the equal rights of sins.. It would be like saying let the murder go free to commit more killings… Or to let Bob go into robbing John’s house cause they feel that was their rights… People like the homosexual knows it is a sin but to legalize it makes them feel that it is excepted by everyone… But it still does not change the fact, it is a sin… And the homosexuals are going out to hitting on all Christian establishments just to sue them… now that is what they love doing the most… So they should be thankful that Christians do not behead them like muslims want to behead them…

    • Ginger Martinez

      oh so we should tell them that they are lucky to be in this “Christian Country”, because being told that the Christian Rights’ God believes they are all sinners and basicallythey should deny every aspect of who God made them as well as being alone and miserable for their entire lives? Why are they not worshipping at your feet?

      • http://yahoo.com/ DustyFae

        Twist this any way you want it, the Muslims will kill Homosexuals… Yes, even if it is a sin , they are lucky that Christians pray for them instead of killing them… I am even a sinner, so are you… face it, stop putting things in a democratic twisted frame of mind.. Are you too blind to see the Christians are being killed every day all over the world? I am not judging, l am praying for us all…I may have greater sins then a Homosexual but l sure as hell try not to force these on to other people to except it as being a right and they must do as l do…You need to remember that Democrats are using these groups of people as a ways to promote a Nasty communist Nation and then like Hitler, the Homosexuals will be Genocide after they rid the Nation of the Christians… If you can not see where our USA is heading then crawl back under your Democratic turtle shell..Freedom of Speech is a right, but not a force…

        • Ginger Martinez

          Are you too blind to see that Muslims are being murdered all over the world? “I may have greater sins then a Homosexual but l sure as hell try not to force these on to other people to except it as being a right and they must do as l do…You need to remember that Democrats are using these groups of people as a ways to promote a Nasty communist Nation and then like Hitler, the Homosexuals will be Genocide after they rid the Nation of the Christians…” Wow you sure seem delusional to me. I would get that checked out if I were you. I have never heard or seen an Homosexual try to convince others to become homosexuals. The assumption that all Democrats are not Christians is absurd. We just follow the example of Christ instead of what we are told based on antiquated opinions of men from over a thousand years ago.
          I do see where this country is going, and the fact that the right wing branch of this country is trying to make laws based on their interpretation of their religion is absolutely absurd. Religion needs to stay out of politics. Why should your religious beliefs affect my freedoms? Your rights end when they begin to interfere with mine as long as I am not hurting you or risking others lives. Example: I have the right to swing my arm but that right ends when it comes in contact with your face.

          • sumsrent

            I can see that you and I are gonna be friends… [one day].

            Ginger… I’m not blind. The Luciferian Globalists are aiding, helping and funding satanic Islam to expand across this globe.

            Take a look at what’s happened ever since 911/2001… the persecution, execution and cleansing of Infidels [Christians] from the Middle East. This was all planned… by design.

            Communism has failed… not even worth mentioning. Why? Because Islam is a government which factors in Socialism, Capitalism, Communism and Welfare. The perfect government which even factors in a twist of religion and economics through Sharia Finance. The perfect Cap & Trade system of handouts.

            The New World Islamic Economic System… is the satanic system which also has a antichrist Caliphate/Mahdi who hates Christians & Jews with a goal of forcing everyone in the world under it’s submission.

            Even the World Banks, Stock markets and IMF have already converted to Sharia Finance… just waiting for the day for the signal to implement it all.

            You say… “The assumption that all Democrats are not Christians is absurd.” <<< [that must come from someone else's conversation... not mine. I didn't say anything like that.]
            Your "arm" example is neat… but all too often those who demand their rights end up striking someone else out of carelessness.
            It'd be better if you just didn't swing your arms in the first place… just like not opening the doors to the Bigoted Demented Homo lifestyle.

          • Ginger Martinez

            You keep making all of these statements with no supporting documentation. I agree about the analogy about rights. This is why the anti marriage equality groups should allow them their freedom, you are “striking someone else out of carelessness.
            It’d be better if you just didn’t swing your arms in the first place… ” Blocking their rights does not reinforce yours.

          • sumsrent

            Communism has failed!

            The New World Islamic Economic System is already in place!

            The NYSE isn’t even American anymore!

            The Bigoted Demented Homosexual agenda does exist!

            You can research any of that…

            You say…
            “Blocking their rights does not reinforce yours.”
            I say… Back at you and the entire Bigoted Demented Homo agenda.
            Quit trying to be a hero… you just exposing your ignorance.

          • http://yahoo.com/ DustyFae

            Christian Muslims are being murdered…I was not just stating homosexuals alone trying to force me to become a homosexual, but forcing their will of their belief on to me… forcing me to give up my faith…Most Democrats that are against the Constitution and supporting the Muslim Brotherhood are not Christians.. Without religion the true religion, then we have Communism and Sharia Laws… prove to me Obama Aganda 21 is not that as the same as Hitler’s…Your rights does not force me to go against what l believe in.. Twist what l say all you want, the truth is, and most of the minority groups have more lean laws then Whites,Seniors and Christians of all faith… Now, if you find this to be lies, prove me wrong… What makes you think taxpayers have to support everyone in the welfare , Government and minority groups ? Where are the Taxpayer’s rights..And what right have our Government to rob from the SS to cover the Obamacare and Welfare? The SS money was put in there by the employers and employees, not the Government and not the freeloaders…

          • Ginger Martinez

            “try not to force these on to other people to except it as being a right and they must do as l do…” that was what you said. It has nothing to do with you and no one is trying to force you to do anything. Except leave others alone to find freedom and happiness for themselves. Who has asked you to give up your faith? “forcing me to give up my faith…Most Democrats that are against the Constitution and supporting the Muslim Brotherhood are not Christians”. I know a lot of liberals and not one are against the constitution or for the muslim brotherhood.” Without religion the true religion, then we have Communism and Sharia Laws… prove to me Obama Aganda 21 ” “the true religion”? Which would that be Catholicism, Southern Baptist, Episcopalian, Jehovah Witness? These are all Christian religions right? So which is it?

          • Ginger Martinez

            “Now, if you find this to be lies, prove me wrong…” Your assertion, your burden of proof. Why did you change it to taxes and taxpayers rights?

          • http://yahoo.com/ DustyFae

            Why don’t you get a life and face the facts… No matter what l say you twist things around… Go play with your freebies…

  • Vicki Mitchell

    Soooo, instead of classifying a man who preys on little boys as a homosexual, why not call him what he really is: “a pedophile”? Is it somehow better if a man molests a little girl? I don’t think so. The example you gave of the 2 men who who raped a tortured a child need to be classified as “rapists, torturers, and child abusers.” The fact that they are also homosexual is beside the point.

    The article states, ” The little boy was raped as a result of the homosexual agenda.
    If two men were never allowed to raise a child, or if homosexuals were
    precluded from raising children, this type of nightmare would never
    happen.”

    Yeah right, because we KNOW heterosexual couples never abuse or molest their kids, right? *Insert heavy dose of sarcasm* By that same logic, if a heterosexual couple, or one of the partners, abuses or molests a child, that means that we need to outlaw heterosexual marriage, right? Well, RIGHT?

    There is so much more I could say about this ridiculous article, but I don’t have enough time in the day, LOL! Maybe if your articles were a little more intelligent and based in common sense, they would be read by more than just religious zealots and bigots.

  • sumsrent

    You spew stupidity.

    You say…

    1) Why is your God any more legitimate than Zeus

    2) There are equal amounts of proof for both.

    3) The only reason the Christian God is considered more legitimate is because Constantine.

    Ugh… stupidity is rampant nowadays!

  • Nehemiah Scudder

    Are you aware that the Old Testament also abominates wearing mixed fabrics? Are you aware that the Old Testament also abominates eating Shellfish, or Pegasi? Are you aware that the Old Testament also abominates eating bats, which it describes as BIRDS

    “WHY do you THINK that they called sodom that name ? because there were sexual perversion of the whole city being mainly gays and wanting to try and have sex with ANGELS ? how UNHOLY is that ? and GOD DESTROYED that place”
    I suggest that you go back to your bible and take a look at Ezekiel 16:49 to find out what the sin of sodom was. And your childish prattle about naming the city after the presumed practice shows your idiocy. Bigots named the practice after the city where it was supposedly carried out. There is no evidence that the city ever existed, the story was copied from Sumerian myths.

    • sumsrent

      “Bigots named the practice after the city”

      You must be talking about the Bigoted Demented Homo’s… all I ever see is how they and their cohorts tend to cling to the idea that sodomy is just dandy.

      Wiki Reports:

      “Sodomy /ˈsɒdəmi/ is generally anal sex, oral sex or sexual activity between a person and a non-human animal (bestiality), but may also include any non-procreative sexual activity.”
      ========================
      Sounds like the Bigoted Demented Homo agenda to me…
      Oh… and actually… there has been a discovery which fits the Sodom of the Holy Bible…
      Otherwise… just because it hasn’t been found yet, doesn’t mean it didn’t exist… silly you…

      • Nehemiah Scudder

        “You must be talking about the Bigoted Demented Homo’s”
        No I mean the bigoted demented Christian theofascists who seem to think that they have a right to interfere in how other people live their lives. I will not tolerate you or any other perverted peeping tom condemn me if my wife feels inclined to engage in oral sex. Get your prying nose out of my bedroom (or indeed any other place where I choose to consummate my marriage) and stay out!

        “Oh… and actually… there has been a discovery which fits the Sodom of the Holy Bible.” And somebody once found an old hammer lying around somewhere in Scandinavia, so I suppose that means that Thor is really the thunder god?

        • sumsrent

          Nobody has their nose in your business! Are you sure you want to bring your wife into this discussion?

          However; the Bigoted Demented Homo agenda feels as anyone who speaks out against their lifestyle should be terminated from their jobs! <<< Now that's getting into peoples business!

          And… what amazes me… all you antichristians lean on the experts of science and discovery to back your beliefs of evolution and homosexuality… but

          But… anytime science backs anything from the Holy Bible… it's disregarded.

          Hey did ya know… science had concluded that the Holy Bible is miraculous and that God does exist!? Yes! It's true!

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            “Nobody has their nose in your business!” That is perfectly true, but why do you feel the need to stick their noses (or anything else for that matter) into the equally private lives of queers.

            “However; the Bigoted Demented Homo agenda feels as anyone who speaks out
            against their lifestyle should be terminated from their jobs!
            <<< Now that's getting into peoples business!"

            This is basically the same argument that was made forty years ago when you lost the right to push blacks to the back of the bus, or keep them in segregated schools.

            "Hey did ya know… science had concluded that the Holy Bible is miraculous and that God does exist!? Yes! It's true!"

            I don't suppose that you have any evidence to back that ridiculous claim, do you. Only 7% of scientists have any form of religious belief, and not all of those are Christians. Some scientists are Hindus, worshipping a polytheistic group of deities, while some are Buddhists. Creationists like Ken Ham are NOT scientists.

            There is nothing in the "wholly babble" that is supported by science, and much that is directly contradicted. The entire book is a tissue of lies, just like your claim about science backing the bible.

          • sumsrent

            You’re so wrong… it’s sad too…
            All anyone has to do is “:Bing” the words…
            1) Science has proven the Bible
            2) Scientific facts that prove the Bible
            3) Scientific discoveries prove the Bible
            4) Science proves the Bible is Inspired by God
            C’mon Scudder… the list is endless…
            PS… the other replies you made are senseless… and far in comparison. You’re grasping at straws again… and since you’ve already been exposed as a liar… you’re now a waste of my time.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            For Items 1,2, and 3
            Ken Ham is NOT a scientist, nor is Kent Hovind
            “Creation Science” is NOT science.
            When you search the terms you suggested, What you get is a whole heap of Clearly Ridiculous Asinine Proposals that deliberately distort, misrepresent, or ignore the evidence.
            Or to put it another way, yet more lies in support of lies.
            If science proves the existence of your personal deity, how come only 7% of scientists profess any religious faith, and NONE of those believe the bible to be scientifically accurate.
            Yes! religious scientists discount the book of Genesis because they know it contains two distinctly contradictory MYTHS made up by primitive nomadic tribal groups to explain something that they didn’t know or understand.
            When it comes to actual scientific proof for the biblical account the list isn’t endless, it is devoid of a starting point.

          • sumsrent

            “”Creation Science” is NOT science”???
            What???

            Of course… you dictate who are scientists and who aren’t…

            Of course… you dictate what science is too…

            I’ve already exposed you as a liar and one who distorts the facts… and obviously anyone can easily that you live by your own set of rules and fantasies.

            You can have the last word now… I’m done with you.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            Science gathers together ALL of the facts that are currently available.
            Science then looks at ALL of the facts and draws conclusions from the available evidence..
            As new facts become available science uses the new information to test the earlier theory.
            If the new evidence requires it the theory is either modified or replaced with a better one.

            Religion makes a predetermined concluding statement.
            Religion twists and distorts facts to make them fit the predetermined conclusion.
            Religion ignores facts that cannot be twisted to fit the predetermined conclusion.
            Religion tortures and kills people who produce new evidence that contradicts it predetermined conclusion

            The track record of creation science as demonstrated in such events as the Dover School Board trial place “creation science” along with “Intelligent design” firmly in the heap called RELIGION. This wasn’t my decision, but that of a judge. He made that decision after examining the EVIDENCE something that you are unwilling to even consider doing, because you have already reached your predetermined conclusion. The United States has already surrendered its scientific and technological lead in the biological sciences and particle physics, and as they make the great leap backwards emulating 12th century Islam, they will next be overtaken by China Japan and India and eventually possibly even by Korea.

            I do not lie, I merely expose lies and their perpetrators. Every statement I have made can be demonstrated to be true, either by accessing the historical record, scientific evidence, or the contents of your own holy book of LIES and SELF CONTRADICTIONS.

          • Ginger Martinez

            Well said, and I agree.

          • ColonelNeville

            Balls. Science is just a neat method for falsifying data and does not ‘tell’ one anything especially as most data is provisional. The correct inference is up to the observer. And er, the greater body of the greatest scientists of all time have been almost invariably and overwhelmingly men and women of faith.

            Also, scientists being people [we can agree here?] are perhaps not better than anyone else, but are often just flawed human beings with all the drives, shams and desires as everyone else. Doesn’t logic follow this?

            Thus the thousands of scientists that made communist and Nazi totalitarianism function. But please, have faith in your Nietzschean Supermen idea. No, really.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            Do you know what happens when a scientist falsifies data. The first thing that happens is that some young gun, or a rival provides evidence that the data has been falsified, making the false scientist look an even bigger fool than he was while the challenger gains glory and fame. Even if he manages to get away with that part, the fakers theory turns out to be useless at predicting future experimental results. An airliner stays airborne because the laws of aerodynamics are valid, not because a hypothetical observer believes that 442 tonnes of machinery belongs in the sky.
            So as soon as you can find some actual evidence to support your Clearly Ridiculous Asinine Postulate (CRAP) then bring it on.

            Thus the thousands of scientists that made communist and Nazi totalitarianism function.
            It was not scientists that were responsible for Fascism or Stalinism. I have a list of Fascist dictators of the 20th Century
            Belgium : Leon Degrelle : Catholic
            Bohemia-Moravia : Emil Hacha : Catholic
            Croatia : Ante Pavelic : Catholic
            Germany : Adolf Hitler : Catholic
            Italy : Benito Mussolini : Catholic
            Portugal : Antonio Salazar : Catholic
            Slovakia : Fr. Josef Tiso : Catholic priest
            Spain : Francisco Franco : Catholic
            Sudetenland : Konrad Henlein : Catholic
            Vichy-France : Pierre Laval : Catholic
            Vichy-France : Henri Petain : Catholic
            It seems that fascism was an extension of the “Church Militant” for the Church of Rome. Stalin on the other hand, studied to become an Orthodox priest before trying to use the powerful mechanism of the State religion by inserting himself at its head, in much the way that HenryVIII had done many years before in England. So you see, religion is the root of the ills of the world.

          • ColonelNeville

            Wow! I never knew “science” was so perfect and scientists too! Wow! And religion is so bad and in every way! Logical fallacy balls. You set up a false premise, false dichotomy, false attribution, appeals to authority and a series of ad hominem straw men yaself, bucko. No, really.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            “Wow! I never knew “science” was so perfect and scientists too!”

            Science follows the evidence to wherever it leads rather than picking the answer it wants and then twisting the evidence to fit. This is why chemists no longer work on the idea that there are four elements. Earth, Air, Fire, and Water. Neither do they adhere to Bechers Phlogiston theory. Instead all Chemists and chemical engineers refer to Mendeleevs periodic table of elements.
            This is in stark contrast to religious dogma.There are over 1100 different religions, and your preferred religion, Christianity, is subdivided into over 34,000 different denominations, persuasions, movements, communities, schisms, sects, orders and cults. Many of them involved in violent disputes with other “Christians”. This very disunity among followers is the best possible indication that there is not a single grain of truth in the entire cesspit of religious ideology.

            “And religion is so bad and in every way!”
            All you need to do is read something called a history book. And yes, there are other books than the “Wholly Babble”

            “You set up a false premise, false dichotomy, false attribution, appeals to authority and a series of ad hominem straw men yaself,”

            When, and where? Cite an example, with evidence to support your assertion, of me appealing to authority, falsely attributing, or any of the other accusations levelled at me.

          • ColonelNeville

            You: “Science follows the evidence to wherever it leads “. Er, logical fallacy nonsense. Science is a method. Science does nothing itself because there is no ‘science’ entity – just the method.

            You again conflating the scientific method [which like all methods does have its own limits] and human scientists: “..rather than picking the answer it wants and then twisting the evidence to fit.” Well, scientists do all those things as scientists are, wait for it, just people, flawed with all the agendas, sins, desires and error as everyone else. Er, like er…you. Atheists are obsessed with God and people of faith. People of faith rarely think about atheists. I am not privy to how much of eternity God allots to the consideration of atheist dogma.

            The rest of your statement is as per usual a series of disingenuous at best logical fallacy, false attribution, straw man, tu quoque, ad hominem, false dichotomy ad nauseum.

            Ironically, you lack scientific rigour yourself and are indeed “…picking the answer it wants and then twisting the evidence to fi” INSTEAD of “follows the evidence to wherever it leads rather than”. Oh, the irony of the mediocre and phony when they are ineffectively posturing..as you clearly are. Hey, empty evidence free appeals to one rickety premise n’ authority replacement for God is WHAT most atheists seem to do.

            Carry on, fluffy. No, really.

          • ColonelNeville

            You conflate much, but especially human nature, human history and human institutions with God and the eternal truths of Jesus Christ. God created all and does indeed offer guidance to everyone and Jesus can indeed save us from our history, flawed institutions and ourselves. And you too, in fact especially you. As Jim Morrison, the great hippie drunk and non-sequitur tossing talented decadent left liberal fool sang: “You’re lost, little girl.” No, really.

          • ColonelNeville

            You ad hominem straw maned “”Wholly Babble”. Oh the wit and profundity! Er, no. You call these debate skills? Sadly they are not, bub. No, really.

          • ColonelNeville

            Riiight. O.K Here goes…I said that: “You set up a false premise, false dichotomy, false attribution, appeals to authority and a series of ad hominem straw men yaself,”

            You amusingly replied: “When, and where? Cite an example, with evidence to support your assertion, of me appealing to authority, falsely attributing, or any of the other accusations levelled at me.”

            Me: Er, it would be far quicker to note where you DON’T resort to relentless logical fallacy, but I’ll try and stay awake. If I was more versed in the many logical fallacy types, I could note more of them though you do like many atheists, leftists and Islamofascists too, use a rather narrow repeated band of fallacy. To whit:

            You: “Science follows the evidence to wherever it leads rather than picking the answer it wants and then twisting the evidence to fit.” False premise, conflation, false attribution, appeal to authority, ad absurdum etc.

            You: “This is why chemists no longer work on the idea that there are four elements. Earth, Air, Fire, and Water.” Me: Extrapolation FROM a false premise, supposition, wrongful attribution, confusion of attributions, strawman etc.

            You: “Instead all Chemists and chemical engineers refer to Mendeleevs periodic table of elements.
            This is in stark contrast to religious dogma.” Me: Conclusion exclusive of pre arguments, false dichotomy, irrelevance etc.

            You: “There are over 1100 different religions, and your preferred religion, Christianity, is subdivided into over 34,000 different denominations, persuasions, movements, communities, schisms, sects, orders and cults. Many of them involved in violent disputes with other “Christians”.

            Me: Argument from strawman and irrelevance and a seemingly unconscious tu quoque…ad hominem, scatter gun etc…
            And er, I note also that the scientific world, such as it is, has always been equally riven or more so. If not, logic follows that there would have been no ‘science’ to begin with and it would never progressed beyond dead statis. This may invalidate the scientists positions or not, but not even the limits of the method or equally the doctrine of Jesus Christ and the existence of God, of which science has nothing to say and can tell us nothing.

            Are you aware that a central principle of Christianity is free will, the ability to question, argue and scepticism about positions and interpretation? My, that sounds rather eerily like many a great and usually individual scientist throughout history, most of whom were and are men and women of faith…

            You: “This very disunity among followers is the best possible indication that there is not a single grain of truth in the entire cesspit of religious ideology.” False assumption, baseless assumption, false extrapolation, false dichotomy and from strawman, ad hominem, ad absurdum, sarcasm as proof of veracity etc.

            That’s probably all I can stand. I bid you well, pilgrim. No, really.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            The scientific principle states that ALL assertions are deemed FALSE unless evidenced as TRUE. This includes the assertion “god did it”. This is backed up by the Lex Parsimoniae which states that among competing hypotheses, the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions should be selected.
            What you are doing is presupposing the conclusion, trawling through mountains of information for the few scraps that seem to support your original postulate (The Wholly Babble) and ignoring mountains of evidence that contradicts your predetermined conclusion.

            You refer to my example concerning the classical “Four elements ” hypothesis as “Extrapolation FROM a false premise, supposition, wrongful attribution, confusion of attributions, strawman etc.” The four element hypothesis was listed in the babylonian Enuma Elis, and was also referenced by Plato and Aristotle. I am not citing these as authorities to assert that only four elements existed, merely referencing the earlier incorrect hypotheses. Science has moved on since the Bronze age, but religion hasn’t. It still claims that the superstitions of bronze age middle eastern nomads are somehow more accurate than modern science.

            I compared the way that scientists compete but also co-operate to move towards a position supported by the evidence which leaves only one theory for any particular subject, and that theory does not require faith to make it work. I compared this with the ever expanding number of religions and sects . Your response was to fire off a list of logical fallacies none of which apply, I’m only surprised that you don’t also accuse me of “Argumentum ad Hitlerum”

            “Equally this does nothing to disprove the doctrine of Jesus Christ and the existence of God, of which science has nothing to say and can tell us precisely nothing.”

            It is not necessary for science, or the scientific method to disprove an assertion that has been made with no supporting evidence. Without supporting evidence your assertions are defaulted to FALSE

            “Are you aware that a central principle of Christianity is free will, the ability to question, argue and scepticism about positions and interpretation”

            Really? Try telling that to the millions that have been tortured and killed for questioning the claims of divine infallibility. Have you ever heard of the Alhambra Decree? So much for Christian tolerance.

            “My, that sounds rather eerily like many a great and usually individual scientist throughout history, most of whom were and are perhaps still, men and women of faith…”
            Do you know what the nature of this comment is? It is called Argument from authority, claiming that god has to exist because scientist “X” was a believer. Early scientists did indeed believe in deities, but as more scientific evidence accrued the tendency to believe declined. I will admit that Isaac Newton believed in god, He also believed in Alchemy, and the Philosophers stone that would turn base metals into gold. He also believed that because he couldn’t calculate the gravitational forces of multiple bodies nobody ever would, which is strange because that is exactly what scientists and engineers working for NASA do every day.

          • ColonelNeville

            Surprise..evermore charmless, shallow logical fallacy strawman linking to random oft irrelevance. Yep, it’s all I can stand of you, me bucko. Are you a professional or a simple lay fool? Toodle ooh. No, REALLY.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            Or to put it more accurately you have no logical way of refuting the evidence that I have referred to, so you make baseless assertions that evidence is irrelevant.
            And now you are running away while launching an ad-hominem as a parting shot.

          • ColonelNeville

            Ah, I see you have posted your list as I suggested, of great, influential atheists in every field of art, science, innovation, philosophy and morality, oh, and the wonderful societies, governments and states based on that inspiring, heartwarming, tolerant atheistic creed, of which you are not the only typical wonderful example.

            Er, NOTHING I have stated is “baseless”, comrade, hence the list, links and counter facts. But please, counter with your charmless logical fallacy. Sadly, YOU have chosen to counter none of the facts I have posted, instead employing the convincing brilliance of absolutely nothing. Bravo, fluffy.

            Again, I REALLY enjoyed your impressive list of great atheist achievements when in power, now I await breathlessly, your reading and supportive sites list list next…

            No, really.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            “h, I see you have posted your list as I suggested, of great, influential
            atheists in every field of art, science, innovation, philosophy and
            morality, oh, and the wonderful societies, governments and states based
            on that inspiring, heartwarming, tolerant atheistic creed”
            What are you babbling on about now? If you want to know about Atheism in the sciences there are just too many to list. A simple enough fact for you to understand is the statistic that only 7% of members of the American National Academy of Sciences believe in a personal deity. A more recent survey by the Royal Society, reduced that figure to 3%.

            On the subject of societies that follow Atheistic ideologies being nicer than religious societies, here are a few facts for you to mull over. Lets go through the countries with
            the Most Atheists in their population and compare their societal health
            with the top religious countries in the world.

            Denmark it has 80% atheist population. 2nd most peaceful country in the world.
            Belgium is over 43% atheist. and is listed in the top ten most peaceful counties
            Sweden with 85% atheist is also listed in the top ten most peaceful countries
            Finland is 60% atheist
            Japan is over 65% atheist. and is also listed in the top ten most peaceful countries
            Switzerland has over 37% and is also in the most peaceful countries
            New Zealand, also named the best country to live in is over 50% atheist. and is number 3 in the top ten most peaceful countries
            Iceland is over 41 percent atheist and is the most peaceful country in the world with a nearly non existent crime rate

            NOW lets look at the most religious countries in the world, the countries with the least amount of Atheists.

            Ghana is 96% religious –has a high crime rate post that threatens visitors and residents.
            Nigeria is 93% religious and has a critical crime rate accord to USDS
            Fiji is 92%religious and crime rate is HIGH according to USDS
            Romania is 89% religious—corruption and bribery is critical
            Iraq is 88% religious—crime rate is CRITICAL according to the USDS
            Kenya 88% religious—crime rate and terrorism rate is CRITICAL
            Peru 86% religious —crime rate is CRITICAL
            Brazil 85% religious —Crime rate is CRITICAL

            Look
            up the numbers if you wish to. But these are accurate.

            “Er, NOTHING I have stated is “baseless”, comrade, hence the list, links and counter facts.”
            What links and counter assertions? All you did was make vague assertions that I had used logical fallacies like ad-hominems, and strawman attacks, but without saying where, what the error was, or how it qualified as a fallacy.

          • ColonelNeville

            I asked you to post “your
            list as I suggested, of GREAT INFLUENTIAL atheists in every field of art, science, innovation, philosophy and morality…” You have NOT done so…because,
            wait for it, “there are too many” Ah, of course, but really because you CAN’T.

            I asked you to post a list of oh “the wonderful societies,
            governments and states BASED on that inspiring, heart warming, tolerant atheistic creed”. You DID NOT- because wait for it, there are none.

            In Europe, you conflate [almost everything] and rearrange the order of cause and effect and Judeo Christian FOUNDED cultures with their peculiar indulgence of half a century of death spiral demographic socialist unsustainability. This is only possible because
            Europe has it’s defence bankrolled and built by wait for it, Judeo Christian founded AMERICA. You really need to read Mark Steyn’s empirical massive best seller [for damn good reasons] ‘After America’ to the see the utter unsustainability of atheist socialist societies that always, ALWAYS become a decadent narcissistic void enamoured and dependent on the state. There is plenty of corruption, crime and violence in your allegedly “peaceful” Europe. It’s why Jews and natives are leaving in their millions…for wait for it, more Judeo Christian confident places.

            Er, Sweden and Norway compete for rape capitals of Europe entirely due to gee, ISLAM and NOT Judeo Christianity and because of the disastrous EU’s embrace of left socialist often atheistic instigated multiculturalism – and as they have abandoned their own faith for statism of state welfare and cronyism, and met a more determined immigrant belief system: ie Islam.

            So Japan and Europe require zero nuance for you, eh? My wife and family ARE Japanese. While not just atheist but Shinto, Buddhist et al, the Japanese are a singularly unique culture and believe me, there is much corruption and
            crime, and their crony socialist and often ATHEIST AS YOU SAID mentality, has led to reinforcing and already extremely inward looking to now very hedonist materialist society with a death spiral demographic to match, with over a
            decade of uber stagnation, a lack of original ideas and individual innovation and leadership [sadly like most Asian conformist mono cultures] and one of the highest suicide rates in the world.

            I could go on, but you are not it appears, that curious, questioning, interested or read. If atheism is so wonderful and the ultimate truth, why are you and hey, so sooooo many atheists I meet, unappealing, bombastic, linear thinking, humourless, bundled opinion logical fallacy spouting control freak and boring narcissistic hubristic twerpy shits? Hmmmm? No, really.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            “Europe and Britain are FAILING and failing utterly, due to their abandonment of Judeo Christian FOUNDATIONS”
            I have already indicated the superior quality of life enjoyed by the less religiously dominated societies in the world, I will also point out that when Europe and Britain were totally dominated by religion, the result was called “The Dark Ages”, and at its height over a third of the population died of preventable disease. You will also be unaware of the activities of the Crusades, and the Albigensian Crusade in particular. Let me offer a list of the Fascist dictators of the 20th century so that you can see the benefit of religion.
            Belgium : Leon Degrelle : Catholic
            Bohemia-Moravia : Emil Hacha : Catholic
            Croatia : Ante Pavelic : Catholic
            Germany : Adolf Hitler : Catholic
            Italy : Benito Mussolini : Catholic
            Portugal : Antonio Salazar : Catholic
            Slovakia : Fr. Josef Tiso : Catholic priest
            Spain : Francisco Franco : Catholic
            Sudetenland : Konrad Henlein : Catholic
            Vichy-France : Pierre Laval : Catholic
            Vichy-France : Henri Petain : Catholic
            It seems that far from opposing religion, fascism was an extension of the “Church Militant” for the Church of Rome.
            I could also point out that while Britain was resisting the military expansionism of the fascists, American factories were profiteering from the war in two ways. Firstly thet were selling munitions to the British, paid at the factory gate, not on delivery to UK, while giving information to German submarine crews to enable the goods to be destroyed at sea, meaning more would need to be purchased. Secondly by people like Prescott Bush whose dealings with the nazis continued even after Germany had declared war on America. (America only went to war in Europe after Germany declared war, prior to that the European war was purely a profit making venture, with the US ambassador to UK being pro-Hitler.)

            “Er, gee, Global violence and terror is over 95% enacted by Islam, ” Wrong again. Although I will admit that Islamic groups like Al-Quaeda are terrorists, I would ask you where did Bin Laden get his funding and training? Wasn’t it that great islamic organisation called the CIA. The CIA connection is one he shares with Saddam Hussein and Gamal Abdel Nasser. Trained to destabilise and overthrow legitimate governments to replace them with pro-American puppets. Of course sometimes the puppets cut the strings. The USA also funded terrorist groups who were then trained in Libya before carrying out terrorist atrocities against those that America referred to as its allies. With friends like America, who needs enemas?

            “Er, Sweden and Norway compete for rape capitals of Europe entirely due to gee, ISLAM ”
            Actually they have a higher number of reported sexual assaults for two reasons, firstly because marital sexual assault, and sexual assault of a prostitute are classed as crimes in these countries and are therefore recorded as such, and secondly because victims are more likely to report a crime when they trust the police to actually investigate.
            Victim surveys show Swedens sex crime rate to be comparable with the rest of Europe, and lower than that of the USA where only 16% of rapes and sexual assaults are reported to the police. And there is no indication that a majority of rapists are Muslims.

            You trot out the usual list of names as people who supposedly massacred millions to spread Atheism yet you ignore the facts as recorded in history. Marx, Engels and Lenin all agreed that there should be complete separation of church and state and that the state should never make laws about religious belief. This attitude is one that was shared by the notable communist plotters Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, et. al. who wrote such notable lines as “no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States” and “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”. I bet you didn’t realise that Lenin was not even opposed to recruiting priests into the revolutionary party. For example, he defended the revolutionary priest Father Gapon against those who claimed he was an agent. Also Stalin was trained as an Orthodox priest, who only failed to be ordained because he couldn’t afford the exam fee.
            Now lets take a look at how nice and loving Christians have been. At how their first actions in the First Crusade was to massacre German and French Jews. Or perhaps the Albigensian Crusade, the first major Christian on Christian genocide, which exterminated around half of the population of the Languedoc. Add to that events like the Alhambra decree that abrogated the Treaty of Granada and expelled the Jews from Spain, or the events of the fascists, and Stalin, and you will soon learn that the greatest number of victims of religious extremism died at the hands of Christians, with Islam in second place.

          • Ginger Martinez

            Science follows a specific set of procedures to prove or disprove theory. The people who do so in a methodical way based on predetermined observations are called scientists. My simplification for the mentally challenged.

          • Nelson Bridgford

            Ehhm, you said nobody has their nose in his business, and then continue on to say that Homosexuals are offended when people “speaks out against their lifestyle” which by its definition is having your nose, in somebody’s business. Own argument, undermined.

          • sumsrent

            Scudder said… “Get your prying nose out of my bedroom”…
            I believe that constitutes… meaning personal business. And for someone to do such an act would be considered a violation of law… some refer to it as a peeping tom… others call it… a “Peeping Nelson”.

          • Nehemiah Scudder

            “But… anytime science backs anything from the Holy Bible… it’s disregarded.”
            Such as what? When did anything in the Wholly Babble get scientific backing? When did NASA find that the Earth has corners, ends, sides,, or even pillars? When did planets get formed before their associated suns? When did the moon become a source of light?

            “Hey did ya know… science had concluded that the Holy Bible is miraculous and that God does exist!? Yes! It’s true!”
            Lying for Christ again? Have you ever actually read the wholly babble, or do you just wave it around while screaming hate at anybody that you don’t like? It is one of the most self contradictory piles of bovine excrement that I have ever been forced to read. One of the reasons that it is self contradictory is that sections of it are plagiarised from different sources. This is why genesis has chickens (the fowls of the air) made from water in one chapter, and when you turn the page they get made out of the ground. I am aware that a few scientists have retained their religion, but very few, and the number of Theist scientists is diminishing steadily.

      • Ginger Martinez

        By that definition every person who has sex during the period when a woman cannot get pregnant s practicing sodomy as it is not procreative sexual activity. Therefore, every time d and I have sex, because neither of us can procreate anymore, we must be practicing sodomy.

      • Ginger Martinez

        Hope you do not enjoy a BJ ever. If so you are a sodomist.

  • sumsrent

    Get this… God never made anyone gay!
    The bigoted Demented Homo lifestyle is a choice. Not a birth defect… not created that way… not born that way.

    • Ginger Martinez

      Get this: yes he does! Are you gay? Have you discussed this with him. Get real. Homosexuality has been around longer than the Old Testament. It is in the animal kingdom. Animals were created by God, and yet some are gay, some are bisexual, some are pansexual, some even masturbate. Get over it and out of others business.

      • Ginger Martinez

        God does not make mistakes and He made us all in His likeness.

      • sumsrent

        Ginger… just because someone or something of the animal kingdom has engaged in some sort of homosexual activity… doesn’t make that person or animal gay. Or… to remain in that lifestyle as a choice forever.
        Homosexuality is a “:Choice”… a desire… a demented… sick mind… based entirely on sex!

        • Ginger Martinez

          “the satanic Islamic way is actually very homophobic. pointed out earlier in a post by others.

  • Ginger Martinez

    I guess after the video phil made a few years ago you can say he was promoting statutory rape. If only gays are pedophiliacs, maybe he is gay??

  • Ginger Martinez

    I was a little concerned that there was only 2 of us that were actually thinking humans. Now I see there are a few more. Thank you

  • Ginger Martinez

    This is gingers friend! to all you scared of the LBGT community you need to get the f*** over yourselves and start thinking about how we are all humans and we aren’t hurting any of you, so stop trying to hurt us cause we are stronger than the bigots like you. You need to get a life and worry about your own lives and not ours. God loves all his children no matter what anyone says. I’m very religious so you can really stop calling all of us Satan worshipers. Hating someone for who they love is a sin so you really need to a stop sinning. Gays can be christens too! I’m done with all the haters and a**holes that think they can belittle people they don’t know. GET OVER YOUSELF!!!!!!! I’M LESBIAN AND F***ING PROUD!!!!! hahahaha

    • sumsrent

      “This is gingers friend”???
      Bwaahaaahhaahahaaahhaaaaaaawaahaahahaahhahhwahaha… oh that’s funny!
      This is gingers friend… who’s just come out of the closet…
      Hey gingers friend… this isn’t Facebook!
      Ugh… what idiocy!
      Hey gingers friend… maybe you haven’t heard or read the article… A Christian [Phil] was being persecuted for speaking against the Bigoted Demented Homos.
      Why? Because it’s his beliefs… which is based entirely on Scripture.
      Which means… you have now provided the evidence that when a so called Christian homo has to make the decision to side with Christianity or Homosexuality… you side with the later…
      Get this gingers friend… get a life… get a moniker if you want to comment… and… and… The Bigoted Demented Homosexual Lifestyle represents people who are not of a sound mind.
      But don’t worry about us Christians who speak out against you… what you really need to worry about… are the satanic worshipping muslims who want to exterminate and kill you.
      And in Iran… they don’t use the long drop method… of breaking the neck. They use cranes to lift your body off the ground… slowly choking you… called asphyxiation… a horrible way to die… aye?
      But you go ahead and fear us Christians… the muslims aren’t a worry… yet… aye?
      Hey??? How come none of you professing homos ever speak out against the way the satanic worshipping muslims persecute your behavioral types in the ME?
      Out of sight … out of mind… aye? Or.. is it brainwashing?
      My advice… keep your mouth shut about being gay… the muzzies are tracking you through the internet… and them finding you down the road will be easy.

      • Ginger Martinez

        Actually i changed my mind. Tell him everyone had their right to their opinion and that’s ok and that i don’t care wat he says or anything cause it’s not going to affect me or who i am i love myself and that’s all that matters. Copy that and the ten commandment saying i said.
        Her response

        • sumsrent

          “Tell him”????

          Bwaahaaahhaahahaaahhaaaaaaawaahaahahaahhahhwahaha… Oh… this continues to be hilarious!
          Well… tell her… if she really did believe that everyone was entitled to their opinion… if she really did believe that… then we wouldn’t be here discussing the subject of Phil being terminated from Duck Dynasty.
          Also tell her… when she finally does get rid of the brainwashed attitude of loving [all that matters] herself over everyone else… she might discover how relationships work and have a successful one.
          Q: Is it lonely being the only one who matters? I bet it is…

          • Ginger Martinez

            That is very presumptuous of you to assume she doesn’t have a successful relationship. And everyone is entitled to their own opinion but also to consequences of stating them. It was the network that fired him for it. I am just sorry they relented because of money. (My own opinion.)

          • sumsrent

            She said “her love of herself was all that mattered”… her words… brainwashing from the “me, myself and I” programming she’s under the influence of.

            Presumptuous? Not really… the pattern is evident and remains constant.

            See… I’ve never met or known of any Bigoted Demented Homos that were in a solid and committed or even successful lasting relationship. Never… and I bet that your friend has been in & out of relationships relentlessly and probably teetering on the one she is in now.

            The fact stands… those “me, myself & I” people… are selfish, greedy, sometimes lazy… demanding, self gratifying and centered on themselves. I could go on… but you get the picture… your friend needs help. She’s NOT of a sound mind… and you can tell her I said so.
            And the Bigoted Demented Homos so called “relationship” is centered all around sex.
            A Double Whammy… two strikes going against her.
            A lover of herself and in a relationship centered around sex. Destined to fail… like all the Bigoted Demented Homos do.

            And…as far as the “network firing” issue… we’ve already covered this elsewhere with others. A&E was influenced by the Bigoted Demented Homos.

          • Ginger Martinez

            The pattern is evident and remains constant? How many homosexuals have you been friends with? Like all types of people there are some who are only interested in sex, but the majority I have known are looking or have found a lover to spend time with, share a family, with and support each other with love, compassion and partnership. Exactly like every other group of sexual orientations. I have known many LGBT people who have found just that. You seem to be the one who is self centered, demanding and quite self important. Just because you say it that does not make it true. You have no documentation to back up any of the blanket statements you make. I don’t care if the network was influenced or not they are the ones who made the decision. I just wish they hadn’t caved.

          • sumsrent

            Stop trying to play the expert commenter with me and acting as if everything needs to have documentation & verification. You’re just as capable of researching something as anyone here.
            Stop acting like a child.
            I have known people that were gay… but it’s not just knowing them… it’s making them see the err in their thinking and changing their beliefs. And it does happen…

          • Ginger Martinez

            How am I acting like I am trying to be an expert? I am only stating my experiences. I have posted a lot of citation to support my claims. You have not. I don’t need to research your claims as they are you assertions it is your burden of proof. If you are trying to debate a topic you should have some back up facts to support position.

  • Carson Wyatt

    I say to you citizens of the USA and members of the world that discrimination of all walks and ways of life are anything but solved. I am a white, Christian, Southern male who has been born and raised in the American way of life. This way of today is prosperity, equality, and opportunities for all who choose, but I say this growing up with my walks of life I have seen nothing but immediate prejudice and criticism from other fellow US citizens and members of the human race. And it was and still is these fellow men and women of society who proclaimed their own discrimination, inequality, and unfair treatment from others which include those with my walks of life. Now it is by no means for me to pardon all these acts by my heritage, but that does not mean for all those who my heritage in generations past discriminated to continue in my generation to oppress, political and social, myself, ways of life and those who share in my heritage, because of actions that our heritage in past generations committed, to this very day. Now from my own experience I could not walk down the streets in the Capital area of D.C wearing a Christian T-shirt without being criticized or being held against other civilians’ prejudice because of my religion. And they said to me and I quote ” Why do Christians even show up all they ever do is hate, disapprove, and chastise everyone?” To this I say wasn’t it Jose Sarria who preached on equal treatment for homosexuals, then what of equal treatment and non-prejudice actions of homosexuals to heterosexuals. In race I see the days of the glorified Martin Luther King Jr. who preached on peaceful treatment and equality for all races then what of the black hate crimes that has frozen white to other races relations resulting in immediate accusation of racism towards whites who dare say anything regarding color or slavery. And towards this very speech itself even those of my own heritage will shy away from this truth because they know that any acceptance of this truth will end in further isolation, prejudice, and discrimination against them from other groups of people. And what of other faiths? The Christian faith is one of acceptance and forgiveness through peaceful methods. All who deny this base their arguments off of few groups or events who do not display these beliefs such as Westboro Baptist or Crusades. Christianity accepts all people of different walks of life while not approving of the choices but not condemn g them of it but rather accept and love them. So I say to the USA and the world what is the evidence of the eradication of prejudice and what does prejudice mean to you? Remember prejudice has one definition and does not bend to fit others desires. And to you Mr. President how dare you proclaim your Christian faith but endorse gay marriage I find that your faith is false or you face struggles of homosexual radicals who pressure society into submission to their grievances which you fear if ignored could cause hate for your own administration which shouldn’t matter because this is your last time. I say to these current social reformists look to the women who gained suffrage and how they act today feminists do not act out in pointing out the faults of the male social groups. Where do you stand in comparison for mature reforms? Lastly on the topic of our nation’s Constitution, this document was based on Christian principles and if the allowance of gay marriage under the reasoning it is Unconstitutional not to, then you have dismantled the very foundation of our nation which is hypocritical. All these truths to say of pressures and forced guilt on the white, Christian, and/or males of society. I refuse for my generation,when we are adults, to live in a nation that has conquered the prejudice of the past, yet convicts those of prejudice in the future. Let it be known today that the ones who spoke out or are speaking out against prejudiced have forgotten their own truths and had sought out the enemies they had fought against but now use to their own personal gain, I am human, you are human, she is human, he is human, they are human, WE are ALL human!

  • Nehemiah Scudder

    “when does science cross the line of THEORY to FACT” You need to understand what the definition of THEORY is to science and then you will see how silly your question appears to a scientist.
    A scientific theory is not an off the cuff guess, or an idea that you have at about 3AM during a sleepless night.

    In science you have facts, you have hypotheses and you have theories. If you take the statement “I do not need to sleep outdoors” as the hypothesis the theory would be to build a house.. The facts are the bricks that you use to build the house.

    A theory will never become a fact just as a house will never become a brick.

    “according to the bible, all these things will be proven in the end,” I am sure that the bible makes that claim, but strangely so does the holy text of every religion, the problem is that they ALL make different claims about which is the correct religion. Why should I choose to accept your deity, when I have no evidence
    to differentiate it from Anoia, Benzeiten, Chronos, Dionysus, Eros, Freya, Geb, Hera, Isis, Jupiter, Kephri, Loki, Marduk, Nemesis, Osiris, Poseidon, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Saturn, Tengri, Uranus, Vesta, Wadjet, Xanthe, Yakshini, or Zeus.

    • AmericanJesusBR

      Sumsrent is an ignorant fool. You’d do best to ignore him.

  • Alan Noble

    Co-opting the Faith to peddle your wares using ungodly speech and rhetoric? Shameful. And it is shameful that so many believers have chosen to support this vile rant. May God have mercy on His Church and the wolves that prey on her.

  • tevra

    most Christians are normal, loving people but bigoted haters like this Duck Dynasty kook can give them a bad name. He should have kept his mouth shut and so should this idiot

  • Salvato Di ermoci

    5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires;s but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.t 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death,u but the mind governed by the Spirit is lifev and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God;w it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the fleshx cannot please God.

  • Ginger Martinez

    If you really believed this and in Christ you would not gloat, but have love for him. Sorry but your comment proves that you are the one being hateful.. thus your heart must be a “heart [that] is evil and dark and of the devil”. However, I hope that by pointing this out to you, you will search your heart and find love, that you believe to already be in your heart.

  • Ginger Martinez

    “so either you follow all of it or none of it”. That would include not eating pork, or shellfish, not wearing mixed textiles, not touching a woman who is menstruating, and stoning people to death, among many others. Are you ready to follow all of it?

  • DrymWarrior

    What a joke! This man sounds more like the Westboro clan to me! Just because someone is gay that doesnt make them a pedophile! I know of three “Christian” STRAIGHT people who molest & rape children as well! This is just ignorant banter!

    • Just Me

      He is, check out how CNN exposed him……

  • Alex Meythale

    Freedom of speech man. I mean if they get so offended, then they can say something bad about him too.

  • Just Me

    Wow, I have posted several posts and they were moderated and not posted. No curse words, no spewing hatred towards anyone….just plain old truth…..google Phil and marry 15 year olds and see what you find, he thinks you should marry 15 year olds…..this probably won’t get posted either, what does this tell you about this site?

  • Nehemiah Scudder

    Ah yes, the ultimate intellectual debate of the Christian theofascist. An ad hominem attack. You cannot refute the statement and so you make disparaging comments about the person.

    Gandhi lived in a manner that Christ would have approved despite being a Hindu. All the self-styled Christians live their lives, and shape their attitudes based on Leviticus and Paul, totally ignoring the bits of their holy book that mention the character “Christ”.
    Where in the Wholly Babble does Christ condemn homosexuals. Not Leviticus, not Paul, but thecharacter referred to in the four gospels.

  • Nehemiah Scudder

    Anything that is except allowing one person to impose his primitive superstitious belief system on another.
    You really should treat your religion in the same way that you use your penis. We know that you have one, and we have no objection to you going somewhere private and sharing it with a partner, or partners of your choice, with their informed consent.
    But we have a name for those that forcibly impose their penis on another person.

  • https://www.youtube.com/user/mistercapnjoe/featured?view_as=public Capt. Joe

    Very astute of you, Mr. Shoebat, to leave the comments open. You proved your point without lifting a finger. I admire that.

  • AndrewIsrael

    Seeing the Christians and secularists/communists/LGBT/minorities fighting with each other in America is a reminder why Pope Francis just saved the Catholic Faith and Christianity as a whole. He is walking the talk of Jesus and is isolating Islam as a Cult of Hate while Christianity is the religion of Love because he keeps the church for the poor and the gospel as something new!

    The Religious Reichers in America needs to learn from Pope Francis if we are going to be united in time to hold off the Global Islamic Caliphate. I understand that this is a very stubborn Protestant country but fighting amongst our own “leftists” is going to end in a schism allowing someone like Rand Hitler Paul to take over and we Jews are SCREWED!!

    SCANDAL! Rand Paul MUST return Neo-Nazi funds NOW and DENOUNCE Stormfront.org:
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/05/24/869320/-SCANDAL-Rand-Paul-MUST-return-Neo-Nazi-funds-NOW-and-DENOUNCE-Stormfront-org

  • yahshua love’s you

    What is wrong is now right and what is right is now wrong and now that everything go’s anything can happen woe woe woe on to those that has made it possible that kids now on schools are being forced to read books about homosexuality and to accept it as if its something normal woe woe woe on to them woe for because of them society is being destroyed and kids lives

  • Kathleen Galli

    Simply, “turn such a one over to
    satan for the destruction of the flesh for the saving of their soul!”
    So do it: simply say, “I turn
    “so-and-so” over to satan for the destruction of the flesh so that his/her
    soul may be saved.”

    For those in hot pursuit of the RIGHTEOUS,
    I turn SEXUAL DEVIATES over to satan for the destruction of their flesh in hopes
    that in their AFFLICTION they seek God’s face early and be saved. Let us hope
    for the saving of souls before their hearts are so hardened by blatant sexual
    abominations that only Rephaim whores await them in the fires of hell. Let them
    have a pre-taste of hell NOW in this life to persuade them unto righteousness before it’s too
    late.

    Noah: Russel Crowe explained the scene where Noah lay naked and Ham stood there
    gazing upon his father as if this was a frivolous act typical of OT reporting.
    The Bible clearly REVEALS that Ham “uncovered his father’s nakedness”
    so I was utterly amazed to hear REPROBATE SEX being explained away as if it was
    just a CURSE not befitting the crime of “simply seeing someone naked.”
    Anyone who actually studies the Bible knows that if someone “uncovers
    another (man’s) nakedness” it means that the perpetrator either had
    “sex with that person” or “sex with that person’s wife.”

    Ham’s offspring are CURSED because HAM either sexually violated his father
    while his father Noah lay unconscious… or Ham had sex with his father’s wife
    (also Ham’s mother). This DEVIANT SEXUAL ACT is condemned by the Creator (end
    of story, His creation, His blueprints, His built-in INCEPTION_AL LIMITATION). Such
    INIQUITY enters into the VIOLATOR’S BLOODLINE and remains in his GENETIC
    LINEAGE for many generations. Add other ABOMINATIONS which accumulate in one’s
    BLOODLINE to this present age of LAWLESSNESS and you have “children
    killing children,” the rise of BLASPHEMY against God, SEXUAL PERVERSIONS
    of every kind, serial murderers — reprobate minds following through on twisted
    thoughts– “doing things that are unseemly.”

    In this particular case it is Ham’s descendants who are CURSED by
    Ham’s DEVIANT sexual abominations against his father. Only the BLOOD of Yeshua
    (Jesus) is able to REMOVE the GENERATIONAL CURSE from Ham’s LINEAGE (or anyone
    else’s for that matter).

    Reject the Son of Glory, Jesus and you’ve just rejected
    your only CURE!

  • Rob Denham

    It’s time to take this artcle down.

  • JOHN T. FOX

    PHIL’S RIGHT. WHEN MUSLIMS GET TO 5% OF A POPULATION THEY START BULLYING, BEHEADING AND TERRORIZING PEOPLE!

  • AmericanJesusBR

    I have come to the conclusion that Walid Shoebat is an ignorant hate monger and meant purely for entertainment. He only reports opinions and never sites anything. Enjoy this foolishness.

  • AmericanJesusBR

    Well said

  • AmericanJesusBR

    Well put sir

  • AmericanJesusBR

    The “nuked city” that you speak of wasn’t real. BUUUT in the stories, they were referring to pedophiles, not consensual adults. Why do non christians know more about the bible than christians do? oh, because we’re educated. I get it now.

  • AmericanJesusBR

    Isn’t jesus an Idol…shouldn’t you not be worshiping him? didn’t he say that you shouldn’t worship him? aren’t you breaking his rule by doing so? or do you just twist words from the bible to fit you everyday life?

  • AmericanJesusBR

    Also, the city wasn’t real. the bible is a book of myths. You laugh at Scientology for the same thing.

  • Nelson Bridgford

    Your god is about as viable or real as Atlantis. Your exactly the same as every other religion in history or that will ever exist. So basing laws and moral compasses on your take on the imaginary man in the sky is fucking retarded. The day that every religion admits that there is NO evidence to support their dumbass claims is the day I will say it is acceptable to base law and morality on things that DONT EXIST.

    • ColonelNeville

      Hey, I feel your wonderful misfit emotional jealousy yet grossly immature logical fallacy and atheist vacuum of narcissistic hedonism. Such pathetic spitefull theological callowness. And they say that youth n’ homosexuals are shallow, self obsessed and boorish.

      I note that you present yourself as a twerp that has no
      “moral compass” hence the crude mob mentality ineffective ad hominem and ironically as a twit whose adulthood and humanity is pitifully “retarded”.

      Tell me, mediocre incurious unread angry towel boy, where do the moral laws that make your life viable and almost only in the democratic free market West come from? No, they didn’t come from radical homosexual nihilist activist creeps, exploding dirt n’ rocks or a vacuum.

      The ENTIRE democratic West is based on Judeo Christianity via the Greeks and Romans etc. Haven’t you noticed? It was in all the papers…You clearly live in an ignorant witless fantasy life completely supported by the system you despise. You are simply not very good at anything but parroting indoctrinated bundled opinion babbling leftism, are you.

      Ask how many people would prefer to live in a West run by fucked up teen creeps like you or based on the faith of Christians and Jews [as it indeed is] or even Buddhists and Hindu’s. Guess which one they’d choose and do. Hence we didn’t all head for the Soviet Union, Red China and Cambodia and don’t flock to Cuba and Nth Korea et al. Why don’t you? They were and or are atheist.

      Duck Dynasty will ALWAYS be better neighbours than you.

      Google zombietime com ‘up your alley’…THIS is the public death spiral end of atheist homosexual ‘moral compass” free homosexual activism. BE WARNED, it’s either a hideous repellent nightmare for most or maybe a typical weekend for, I’ll take a wild guess, you.

      No, really.

    • ColonelNeville

      “Your god is about as viable or real as Atlantis.” A mythic city and God and there is no difference for you. Riiight. How deep..how profound…Er, no.

      Looking at all the sadly typical, venal narcissistic nihilist mob-mentality leftist and atheist homosexual activist variant comments here, one can’t help notice that for them, there are no individual homosexuals, but only one mass radical homosexual monstrous ideological movement. A movement that has always said it wants to destroy marriage, the family, God, faith, morals and meaning and replace it with an Erich Rohm S.A brownshirt cum San Fran style permanent and pervasive state enforced available homosexual orgy. No, really they did and really they do.

    • ColonelNeville

      Er, but you don’t read, do you and possess zero curiosity or authenticity. You present as a laughable conformist phony. Am I right?

    • ColonelNeville

      Er, but atheist beliefs are about the non-existence of anything beyond the accidental and material, yet you are happy to base the profound meaning of laws and morality on this ironically meaningless nullity.

      Laws and morals are NOT material, they are theological and philosophical ie: man made. So where is the connection between an entirely material world as you see it, and such human/religious concepts? I get my morals and laws from God. What do you do sir? Well, the same of course but you simple mindedly deny it. No Western atheist can operate independently and outside of Judeo Christian concepts. Neither can you.

      No, really.

  • tomads

    Here is my take on the LGBTQ galaxy, gay-bashing and homophobia:

    What percentage of gays and lesbians have kids of their own?

    What percentage of transexuals have operations paid for by someone else?

    There is no such thing as a transexual!

    Only spayed and castrated lesbians and gays with massive hormone therapy to counteract

    their genetics and attached protheses useful in mutual masturbation…

    Lesbians avoid male sex partners, EXCEPT when they want to conceive…

    Gay men who avoid female sex partners, EXCEPT when they want to conceive…

    Bi-sexuals claim both sexes as potential mates, but only conceive with the opposite sex,

    perhaps with multiple sperm sources…

    Transexuals are males and females who willingly neuter themselves…

    and then botox,etc, their bodies appear to be the opposite sex…

    but can never again conceive children…

    Queers are retro in your face members of the above groups…

    bringing back a bad word as a taunt…

    All who don’t conceive fail at natural selection…

    They do not go forth and multiply…

    Science still is unable to assure that ANY of the offspring of any of the above are as robustly developed as the product of monogamous relationships…

    Do you have any references that prove the contrary?

    One cannot bash LGBTQ galaxy at all as completely as they bash themselves…

    Their seed will be dropped from the gene pool…

    forever!

    Their line stops with them…

    No despot or tyrant or commie atheist “chairman” could more completely make them into unpersons genetically!

    what is there to fear about people who are so self-destructive in a genetic sense?

    gay marriage:

    heterosexuals produce children…

    The LGBTQ wanker alliance do not…

    Is that too complex?

  • ColonelNeville

    Er, I’m not for the old Leviticus “putting to death” thing at all. No, really I am not. Surely you are not in favor of such barbarism too?
    There is a big and VERY important difference between individual human beings who just happen to be homosexual and the radical mass ideological homosexual movement and its creepy followers. I think of the great gaypatriot net and many others like Torche et al.

    All individuals, including the former, have equal liberty under the law, The Constitution and in our culture…Conversely, the latter are a nihilist totalitarian movement that like all mass nihilist mob movements, seeks to destroy individual liberty, and usurp the state to enforce it. One MUST be able to remember the difference. No, really.

  • Nelson Bridgford

    Id like to point out how much you sound like a radical Muslim. That’s all :) x

  • Nelson Bridgford

    So one atheist calls you a name and you call all of us devils? Id rather be called a name then burned at the stake.

  • Irv Spielberg

    FOR GAYS ONLY: Jesus predicted that just before His return as Judge,
    there will be a strange, dangerous fad – a spontaneous global
    steamroller notable for its speed, violence, and impudent in-your-face
    openness. In Luke 17 He called this worldwide craze the
    repeat of the “days of Lot” (see Genesis 19). By fulfilling this
    worldwide mania that’s secretly coordinated by unseen spirit beings,
    gays are really hurrying up Christ’s return and making the Bible even
    more believable!
    They’ve actually invented strange
    architecture: closets opening not on to bedrooms but on to Main Streets
    where kids can see naked men having sex in “Madam” Nancy Pelosi’s San
    Francisco Brothel District. We wonder how soon S.F.’s underground saint -
    San Andreas – will get a 10-point jolt out of what goes on over his
    head (see the dire prediction about cities in Revelation 16:19, and
    Google “Obama Supports Public Depravity”).
    What’s really scary
    is the “reprobate mind” phrase in Romans 1:28. A person can sear his
    conscience so much that God finally turns him over to S, the universal
    evil leader whose unseen agents can give a “possessed” person
    super-human strength that many cops with tasers have trouble subduing!

    Remember, gays don’t have to stay bound to their slavery. Their
    emancipation is found in a 5-letter name starting with J – no, not James
    or Julia. As soon as they can find out the all-powerful J name, gays
    will really start living!

    [Spied the above on the net. Any reactions? Also Google "Universal GAYety is Coming."]