Exposing Martin Luther’s Love Affair With Islam

By Thomas King

This will again come as a shock to those whom hold Martin Luther in high esteem, but Luther held Islam and her armies in admiration. It is true that he wrote a tract entitled: “On War Against the Turk”, whereby it appears that he is opposed to Islam on theological grounds and urges the German people to resist invasion. Nonetheless, he is more tolerant towards Islam than he is towards the Jews. In fact, he even states as much:

Let the Turk believe and live as he will, just as one lets the papacy and other false Christians live. (On War Against the Turk)

Suleiman the Magnificent, Sultan of the Ottoman Empire in Luther’s time.

Suleiman the Magnificent, Sultan of the Ottoman Empire in Luther’s time.

But that is not all. He even goes so far as to claim that a Muslim ruler (a Turkish ruler) is better than a Christian ruler:

A smart Turk makes a better ruler than a dumb Christian

It is no accident since Luther hated Jews and the Pope more than he did the Islamic religion and therefore, despite knowing what was wrong with the Islamic religion theologically and also in terms of what it would do given full swing over Europe, he urged his followers to side with the Muslim Turks in defeating Europe.

After calling the Jews and the Pope some foul names such as “Antichrist” and “Devil incarnate”, he then urged his followers to look at the Turks in the best manner and even went so far as to say that some of his German contemporaries (read traitors), “actually want the Turk to come and rule, because they think that our German people are wild and uncivilized – indeed that they are half-devil and half-man” (Found in The Ottoman Empire and early modern Europe, by Daniel Goffman, Cambridge University Press, 2002, p110).

What is most interesting about the whole matter is that Suleiman the Magnificent, the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire during Luther’s time, that he sent a letter to Luther’s followers in Flanders, Holland which stated that he felt akin to them since: “they did not worship idols, believed in one God and fought against the Pope and Emperor” (Found in The Ottoman state and its place in world history by Kemal H. Karpat p.53).

Suleiman the Magnificent extended his kinship further and wrote letters to German princes who were sympathetic to Luther to form an alliance with him to fight both the Emperor and the Pope as well giving protection to Luther and Calvin’s followers in Hungary and Transylvania. (See Muslims and the Gospel: Bridging the Gaps by Roland Miller, Lutheran University Press, Minneapolis, 2005 p208).

In fact, one of the biggest collaborators with Suleiman the Magnificent was a Unitarian, John Sigismund, who not only was dependent on the Sultan for rule of Hungary, but the establishment of this wicked heretical Unitarian “Church” of Transylvania. [On a side note, the first Unitarian, Michael Servetus, was initially supportive of the Reformation of Luther, only to fall out of grace with John Calvin, due to his heretical denial of the Trinity. Evil company can always fall in and out of each other! This is evident by the fact that Luther hated both John Calvin and Ulrich Zwingli, who were also responsible for the Reformation!]

John Sigismund of Hungary, pledging allegiance to Suleiman the Magnificent.

John Sigismund of Hungary, pledging allegiance to Suleiman the Magnificent.

It was no accident that a century later, a Muslim diplomat from Morocco sent to cement an alliance between Protestant Holland and the Ottoman Empire along with the Islamic kingdoms of Morocco and the Moriscos, by the name of Al-Hajari, would state in his book, the following:

Their teachers [Luther and Calvin] warned them [Protestants] against the Pope and the worshippers of Idols; they also told them not to hate the Muslims because they are the sword of God in the world against the idol-worshippers. That is why they side with the Muslims. (—Al-Hajari, The Book of the Protector of Religion against the Unbelievers)

That is why it was so easy for Luther’s followers and the followers of John Calvin to collaborate with the Islamic forces attacking Europe. Luther laid the groundwork for this in his half-hearted statements regarding Islam along with his actions. But it gets worse from here on in. After the demise of Suleiman the Magnificent, Murad III, his successor wrote a letter to forge alliance with the Lutherans in both Flanders and Spain that stated:

As you, for your part, do not worship idols, you have banished the idols and portraits and “bells” from churches, and declared your faith by stating that God Almighty is one and Holy Jesus is His Prophet and Servant, and now, with heart and soul, are seeking and desirous of the true faith; but the faithless one they call Papa does not recognize his Creator as One, ascribing divinity to Holy Jesus (upon him be peace!), and worshiping idols and pictures which he has made with his own hands, thus casting doubt upon the oneness of God and instigating how many servants to that path of error” —1574 letter of Murad III to the “Members of the Lutheran sect in Flanders and Spain”

Murad III, successor of Suleiman the Magnificent and collaborator with Luther’s followers

Murad III, successor of Suleiman the Magnificent and collaborator with Luther’s followers

It was also no accident that in the Battle of Lepanto in 1571 that amongst the Ottoman forces were to be found Lutheran and Calvinist allies from Holland and England. Treachery continues and in the Battle of Vienna in 1681, the leader of the Protestants in Hungary, Imre Thokoly in conjunction with the Ottoman forces was attacking Vienna. It is the grace of God that prevented this Islamic scourge from succeeding with Vienna as they had with Constantinople, due to the intervention of John Sobieski, king of Poland.

Nonetheless, it is clear by now that the followers of Luther and Calvin were willing allies and traitors to the forces of Islam due to the groundwork laid by the Reformers. In fact, it became a common saying among the Dutch Protestants in the 16th century that they would “rather a Turk than a Papist”. Sadly, the same was said by a number of Orthodox Christians before the fall of Constantinople in 1453: “Better the turban than the tiara”, for which the Orthodox Church has paid a bitter, bloody price as evidenced in the number of Saints and New Martyrs during the Ottoman and Caliphate eras.

History repeats itself indeed when others fail to learn from it! Orthodox Christians should wake up and learn from St. John Damascene and not be blinded by sugarcoat that Islam promoted using fair words and fair speeches stating that they worship the same God as us or that we have more in common! St John Damascene was in the second most powerful place in the court of the Caliph of Syria, and yet he was never corrupted by Islam. In fact, he saw its full reality and in his book, The Fount of Knowledge, even named Islam as the “heresy of the Hagarenes (Descendants from Hagar, the mother of Ishmael)”, and even named Allah as “Baal” as well as calling Muslims: “Mutilators of God” to counter their accusations towards the Christians as being “Associators of God”. Such a Saint and Father saw right through it all and pulled no punches whatsoever.

Orthodox Christians have no excuse for treasonous collaboration with Islam. Those who have done so have betrayed the Church and have become as Judas Iscariot. If the persecutions do not teach us anything, then should not the actual blasphemies against Christ our God be enough along with the vitriol that is leveled against both Jews and Christians in the Qu’ran be enough?! Unlike Luther and Calvin, we have no excuse since we have the example of Saints and New Martyrs and some of the Fathers (e.g. St. John Damascene) to teach us the evils of Islam, both theologically and in practice. History should have taught us that collaboration only worked against the Church in the end. Anathema be upon all the Quislings in the Church, be they hierarch or layman!

I digress slightly, but evidence is enough to show, even in this present day, that Luther and his evil fruit have been responsible for the Islamic threat that is now threatening the West more than ever before. It is no accident that the Muslims and left-wing liberals have named “Martin Luther”: Tariq Ramadan. The connection is not so far-fetched when you consider that both have a hatred for the Jewish people, both are deniers of Christ and both have advocated evil rulership. Mr. Tariq Ramadan is in fact a direct descendant of the Muslim Brotherhood’s founder, Hassan al-Banna. As is typical of Muslim theology, he practices “al-taqqiyah”, or lying for the sake of Islam and this is also not different from Luther who advocated, as quoted earlier, the teaching of lying for the cause of God in the name of grace.

Another evil fruit of Luther’s duplicity with Islam is that many of the Lutheran churches today are anti-Israel and pro-Islamic terrorist. This is evidenced in many of the statements made by official leaders in the Lutheran World Council and other Lutheran officials, whereby Israel was always accused of “atrocities” for defending herself and her citizens, both Jew and Arab, from Islamic terrorist attacks by Palestinian terrorist groups. You only need to check the official records to see what is stated is the truth.

Suffice to say, Luther has not only been worthy of Lucifer, but also Judas Iscariot and the Antichrist and has shown so by his sympathetic gestures to Islam, despite knowing their theological errors. Any Christian in Lutheran circles today who does not wish to participate in either Luther’s hatred of Jews or his pandering to the antichrist religion of Islam should have the courage to name him as a “firstborn of Satan”, as the Blessed St. John the Apostle named Cerinthus, and hopefully, leave Lutheranism for a genuine Christianity.

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  • Tonino Vicari

    Waled, I’m a huge fan of your work. I have been praying for an understanding to the Book of Revelation and I believe God has answered my prayer through your Excellent Exegesis. Martin Luther was wrong for attacking the Catholic Church and he was wrong for elevating Islam.

  • WTF does this have to do with saving our Christian brothers and sisters?!

    • David Stafford

      That’s exactly what were trying to do is save our “Christian” brothers and sisters.

  • Didn’t Keith pen an article last week titled “The Reformation Is Over For Now”?

    • shoebat

      Rick

      Read my response above

      • billobillo54

        We don’t “hate” Catholics. We have strong disagreements with Roman Catholicism. I am very grateful for Martin Luther, John Calvin and all of the Protestant Reformers. Notwithstanding, through my own study and continual reading of the Bible, there is no doubt, SALVATION IS BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH IN JESUS AND HIM CRUCIFIED PLUS NOTHING ELSE. TO SAY OTHERWISE IS “ANOTHER GOSPLE.”

        • David Stafford

          How long will ye love simplicity and fools hate knowledge.

          • billobillo54

            David-thank you for the insult.
            God bless you in the Name of Jesus.

          • David Stafford

            billobillo54-I wept when I read what you wrote until I scrolled above to read (in it’s entirely) your mighty volley of scripture verses directed against James. I will ask you one thing. How does one know one has saving faith?

          • billobillo54

            David: Read Ephesians: 1:13: 13 In [q]Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also [r]believed, you were sealed in [s]Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is [t]given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of His glory.

            You stand on the promises of God. We have every reason to have confidence in God and His Word. Plus, the Holy Spirit indwells us when we hear the gospel and believe. He is the “Comforter.”
            James wrote one epistle. Paul wrote 13 epistles. They have a different perspective on salvation which is not necessarily contradictory. Paul uses “justification” as a legal term. James uses it in a non-legal, practical manner.

          • David Stafford

            If you are in the mood for discussion, I’m your man. But you, by what you have said so far, disregard far too many words from the mouth of God for one to look upon such an activity with you with good will. You pussyfoot around every question I ask you. Would you like to see yourself pussyfoot? How about this quote from Galatians. “Yourselves know how holily, justly, and unblameably we behaved ourselves.” How does this statement tie in with Romans 7:15? Pussyfoot away…and don’t think that’s not what you’re doing. I am saying you do not have to pussyfoot if you rightly divide the word of God! Why belabor us with volleys of scripture quotes which do not apply? As they say, it’s like being nibbled to death by ducks.

          • David Stafford

            Christianity today has turned the grace of God into lasciviousness! The times of the gentiles are fulfilled…

          • billobillo54

            David: 2 Corinthians 11:3: “But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.”

            John 1: 12-13: 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, 13 who were [i]born, not of [j]blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

            John 3:36: 36 He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not [j]obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

            John 6: 35: 35 Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst.

            John 6:40: 40 For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.”

            John 6:28: 28 Therefore they said to Him, “What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.”

            1 John 5:5: 5 Whoever believes that Jesus is the [a]Christ is [b]born of God, and whoever loves the [c]Father loves the child [d]born of Him.

        • Amerihiker

          You don’t seem to understand that what you said is what the Catholic Church teaches.

  • John Bowman

    According to your views Catholics are the only true believers, but if you do some reading of the Bible instead of Catholic encyclopedias you might see the light. Jesus said to call no man father, but your group requires it. Catholics omit the commandment about not serving idols in order to pray to Mary and dead saints. They say Mary is a perpetual virgin, but yet Jesus had half brothers one who was a leader in the early Church- not the one in Rome. The Bible says over 2000 times that God is one not two or three which naturally leads to a worship of Mary because if God had a mother he should listen to her.

  • jill0122

    It is a shame that the man who brought the bible back to the people would go on to be known for this as well. God certainly used him in translating the bible though.

    • David Stafford

      The Jehovah’s witnesses translated the bible too. Surely you can understand why people such as Luther, who taught that the book of James was an “an epistle of straw.”, would want to translate the bible.

      • jill0122

        I`m sure it was better to keep this book out of the hands of the people; NOT!! Comparing the work Luther did to the deliberate misleading done by the cult; Jehovah Witnesses, is a kinder comparison than from the deliberate misleading done by the Catholic Priests. The difference between the two?At least the JW bible had the word in the hands of the people. The Holy Spirit at least had a chance.

        • David Stafford

          You introduce the designation “cult” into this. What I know of a cult is that they follow charismatic leader. Of the two: Martin LUTHERANS and JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES, which would one suppose is a cult? They both sprang from Germany. The joke then becomes, can anything good come out of Germany? Not counting Bach and VW beetles.

          • billobillo54

            David: Jehovah’s Witnesses began in Pittsburgh, PA in the 1870s. The originator of the heresy was Charles Taze Russell. He was even found guilty of perjury in Allegheny County Common Pleas Court. He claimed to be an expert in Greek and Hebrew and was shown in court to know either.

          • David Stafford

            Billobillo54: Quite right. I was wrongly and carelessly thinking the witnesses had arisen out of a German bible study society. Thank you for taking the time to care and enlighten us. I apologize for my lightness in making that statement.

          • jill0122

            My definition of a cult is any group that does not acknowledge and preach the deity of Jesus Christ, the trinity, and any other major issues pertaining to Christs message. The Lutheran church is on very solid ground and JW is a cult. I take it from this analogy that if the Pope was German and was “charismatic” then he, too, would qualify.

          • David Stafford

            Thou sayest it.
            So then the Children of God aka the Love Family would not be a cult?
            It seems this whole discussion on who is a cult can be ridiculous.
            I hear there be divisions among you. One says I am of Luther, another, I am of Calvin, another, I am of Wesley, another, another, another…Was Luther crucified for you? Were you baptised in the name of Calvin?
            Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgement.
            To bear the name, Lutheran, sounds like one is saying, “I am of Luther.” Does it not?

          • jill0122

            This Sunday, I worshiped Jesus with Lutherans, Baptists, Presbyterians, Pentecostals and 16 other churches, with several of the Pastors taking charge of part of the service. We were there to praise God, who sent Jesus to die for all of us.Our baptism was by full immersion in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit; as directed by scriptures in the New Testament. We are all proud to say “We are brothers and sisters in Christ and we are called: Christians”.

  • 1Bobby8

    If Martin Luther, the father of Protestantism, had his way, we would all be on prayer rugs bowing towards Mecca.

    • Rexlion

      Nonsense. If Luther had his wish, all of mankind would acknowledge Jesus (Yeshua) as their Savior and be grafted into God’s family by grace through faith. Luther may have been amenable to a mutual enemy of the Romans, but by no means did he want people converted to Islam.

      • 1Bobby8

        He sided with Islam against the Church….If it wasn’t for the Roman Catholic Church we’d all be on a prayer rug bowing towards Mecca.

      • David Stafford

        Rexlion, just wanted you to know you are regarded with favor by shoebat and co. I wrote a stiff rebuke of your different gospels for different folks, salvation according to context teachings, and they refused to print it.

  • Kevin Schwertfeger

    Walid and Thomas,

    I appreciate your views and news on islam today.
    I believe you should look further into Martin’s comments on War against the Turk.
    Was Luther perfect in all ways, no. No person is.
    However , Thomas is misrepresenting Lutheran theology with his article above. Thomas is not an authority on the Lutheran (Christian) faith.
    We are saved by what God has done for us in sending His Son Jesus as a sacrifice for us Saved by Faith alone, thru Scripture and Grace alone. The Lutheran Church Missouri Synod is Christ centered and believes in the Trinity, Father Son and Holy Ghost.
    For more info please go to lcms.org Jesus Loves You. We must be vigilant against
    the expansion of islam.
    Thank you, but you could do better than to bad mouth Martin. I’m not sure what you are accomplishing.
    God Bless,
    Elder and former President of St Paul Lutheran Church, LCMS
    KS.

    • shoebat

      As you point out Martin Luther was not perfect. What is wrong by not pointing this out? Many Evangelicals today are reaching out to Islam. We are very concerned that the because of the hatred of Rome and the Catholic church by many Evangelicals. They continue the false teachings on Rome as the Harlot; will sell out Israel and ally themselves with Turkey, again just like Martin Luther did in the past.

      The truth is hard medicine. Christians Protestant and Catholic need to wake up. Evangelicals need to repent from their hatred. Catholics also need to get their act together when it comes to Islam.

      • May be they are thinking you are talking about Martin Luther King…. l do not understand some of their comments here or am l the one misunderstanding…

        • Are you daft?

          • no, but l do not understand your comment, there are all form of religion that do not go by every word of God, so l am wondering where you were coming from…

      • Rexlion

        Obviously Martin Luther knew the evils of the Roman Catholic hierarchy much, much better than he knew Islam. Otherwise it would have been different.
        But I am shocked at the claim that “many evangelicals today are reaching out to Islam.” There may be a scant few scatterbrained individuals (as there are bound to be in any large group), but by and large the evangelicals are the most stout against Islam of any group. Certainly the US evangelicals as a body are extremely aware of the evil, deceitful and dangerous nature of Islam.
        By contrast, it has been reported by Radio Free Europe that Pope “Francis said closer ties to Muslims are of “great importance” to the
        Catholic Church. He added that Christians should embrace Muslim
        immigrants “with affection and respect” as Christians would expect to
        receive in predominantly Muslim countries.” When the top leader of the Roman hierarchy makes overtures toward Islam, how can we evangelicals have any respect for the Roman Catholic organization? Not hatred as you claim, mind you, but we certainly aren’t swooning over Francis like the mainstream media is.

        • alnga

          The Pope Francis appears to be more of a humanist than a true Christian. We must still wait to see where he will lead the body of the Catholic Church. All church leaders are sinners because they fall into the same category as the laity. The Word of God is the only accurate guide to life with the wise council of Church Elders and pastors. .

        • David Stafford

          Perhaps you should read Christianity Today. A magazine begun at the suggestion of Billy Graham.

      • billobillo54

        The evangelicals who “reach out” to the Muslims are no different than the Popes or Roman Catholic hierarchy and laymen who do the exact same thing.
        You guys misinterpret the antagonism of ex-Roman Catholics like me toward the RCC as hatred. You have no idea what it was like to be in the Roman Catholic Church and to be completely aware of the justice and wrath of God and to be taught NOTHING ABOUT THE FREE PARDON THROUGH FAITH. To add anything other than faith in Jesus and Him crucified as the means of our salvation and sanctification is, as Paul wrote in Galatians, “another gospel.” Christian love is the fruit, not the means of salvation.
        I do not agree with the RCC on many, many things. That does not mean I hate them. You disagree with Protestantism. Does that mean you hate Protestants?

        • There is a huge difference between reaching out with the gospel to the Muslims, as well as the many unregenerate Catholics, vs. justifying their unbiblical and ungodly beliefs. While some Protestants are making the mistake of saying that the Muslims serve the same God as we Christians, most who are reaching out to Muslims are trying to build a bridge for the gospel. Perhaps if you’re a strong Catholic, you should spend more time repenting for the sins of the Catholic Church and Popes, and being self critical rather than pointing fingers at Martin Luther. A smart secularist, even a smart tur, may be better than a papist if the patters are stuck in the anti-Christian message of the Catholic Church, with its idols, cult of the Saints and Mary, and papal succession. At least Muslims don’t pretend to be Christian when they present there unbiblical doctrines. With that said, I agree that Islam is the most evil and anti-human ideology in the world.

          • Christian Groenheide

            You’d rather live under the tyranny of islam. Paying jizzya by giving away your kids to the caliphates private army. Be at the constant mercy of Muslim thugs who want to and do kill, rape and enslave you? Because at least they do not think that Christ is king? They do not profess to be his disciples??
            You’d rather be the snack of a wolf who has no disguise.
            Then the pope. Or whatever you deem are not true Christians because they have this or that stupid teaching or ritual?
            Well good god for gods enemies. You bless them to correct those who think they love god.. But it seems not as holy as thou. And then they say muslims start killing eachother in a 100% muslim world. Well Christians are no better they pray that muslims rule over them to do this for them.

        • David Stafford

          I enjoyed your letter billobillo54 but sadly you evidently do Not see how that a man is justified by works and not by faith only…it’s line Upon line and precept Upon precept that you (billobillo54) might go backward and fall and be taken. You make people to trust in a lie.

          • billobillo54

            “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16)

            “Jesus said: ‘I am the resurrection and the life whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die…” (John Ch. 11)

            “Therefore being justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.” (Romans 5:1)

            Romans 3:21-22: 21 But now apart [k]from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those [l]who believe; for there is no distinction;

            Romans 3:27-28: 27 Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. 28 [r]For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works [s]of the Law.

            Romans 1:16-17: 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed [j]from faith to faith; as it is written, “[k]But the righteous man shall live by faith.”

            Romans 3:30: Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30 since indeed God who will justify the [t]circumcised [u]by faith and the [v]uncircumcised through faith is one.

            Romans 4:1-3: What then shall we say that Abraham, [a]our forefather according to the flesh, has found? 2 For if Abraham was justified [b]by works, he has something to boast about, but not [c]before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”

            Romans 4:4-6: 4 Now to the one who works, his wage is not credited as a favor, but as what is due. 5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness, 6 just as David also speaks of the blessing on the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:

            7 “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds have been forgiven,
            And whose sins have been covered.
            8 “Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will not take into account.”

            Romans 4: 11:11 and he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which [j]he had while uncircumcised, so that he might be the father of all who believe without being circumcised, that righteousness might be credited to them,

            Romans 4: 13: 13 For the promise to Abraham or to his [l]descendants that he would be heir of the world was not [m]through the Law, but through the righteousness of faith.

            Romans 4:16: 16 For this reason it is [o]by faith, in order that it may be in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the [p]descendants,

            Romans 4: 20-25: yet, with respect to the promise of God, he did not waver in unbelief but grew strong in faith, giving glory to God, 21 and being fully assured that what God had promised, He was able also to perform. 22 Therefore it was also credited to him as righteousness. 23 Now not for his sake only was it written that it was credited to him, 24 but for our sake also, to whom it will be credited, as those who believe in Him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead, 25 He who was delivered over because of our transgressions, and was raised because of our justification.

          • David Stafford

            James 2:24 “Ye see then how that a man is justified by works and not by faith only.”
            Rexlion suggests hermeneutics says this scripture verse is a… special gospel for use with those who are just not getting it. What say ye?

          • billobillo54

            Again, Paul labors in every epistle, especially Romans and Galatians, to reinforce the point that, what he called “my gospel” (i.e. Paul’s gospel, the gospel of Sola Fide) was adhered to.
            In Romans 5:1 Paul writes: “Therefore being justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.” If you study Romans you will see that Paul goes to great lengths and labors over the legal, positional reality of “justification.” It is completely a legal, positional term that expresses the reality of the believer’s status in the eyes of God due to “imputed righteousness” which is the righteousness of Christ that is freely given to believers.
            James uses the exact same Greek word in a different manner. His use of the word is in a practical, non legal manner.
            There was a tension between the Jerusalem Church and Paul. This is readily seen in Acts 15 at the Jerusalem Council and even more emphatically recorded clearly and emphatically in Galatians. James’ epistle is written strictly to Jews, some of whom were teetering in their faith in Jesus.
            We are all here to do good works. We are of no use if the fruit of the Spirit is not evident. But our salvation, forgiveness of sins, sanctification, and our life in Christ is received and maintained strictly by grace through faith alone.
            The New Testament is clear that believers can KNOW that they are saved forever. The NT was not written to super saints. It was written to normal people like those in Corinth who had many, many moral failings. That is because our salvation is wholly dependent on the work of Christ. For that, we owe Him and give Him our lives.

          • David Stafford

            Great, swelling words. Can you quote me the scripture which clearly says how one can know that they are saved forever? And what the heck is a super saint? I perceive not yet in you the words of knowledge. Nor an acknowledgement of the truth. It is written, To the law and to the testimony; if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
            You are self-confessed that your members are instruments of unrightousness

          • jill0122

            The Catholic church adds entire books of interpretation. They make `line upon line and precept upon precept` a total mockery.

          • David Stafford

            Catholicism is paganism with Christian names as I understand and have seen it in the Vatican. This happened because Christianity became the Roman religion simply by edict. Today the are attempting to merge their thrust with new evangelicals. The introductory study materials they give new candidates could be used in any modern Christian church emphasising Jesus. I went through their introductory classes back in 1996. I prayed the rosary faithfully. I had one red, one yellow, and one green, for each of the mysteries. I was considered quaint when I carried my rosary in worship service. I dropped out when I received my bible from my sponser and found it to be just as disappointingly translated as the NIV, et al. The New translations prove that the KJV is the inspired word of God in English. My wife and I are up to Acts in our reading from a replica of the first edition. It’s funny because, for instance, a page in Micah is labeled Joel at the top. No harm done to my understanding or study though.

    • David Stafford

      Like when Jesus was bad mouthing the Pharisees; the rabble didn’t understand what he was accomplishing.
      God Bless.

      • David Stafford

        I feel I should mention here that my above response was to a letter by Kevin much before this one and was using his term “bad mouthing”, a term he had used in that letter. It now makes no sense having been moved to look like a response to a different Kevin letter. It seems that mischief is afoot at the Shoebat website.

  • I will not be sending money to Rescue Christians for the next month. I’ll give those funds elsewhere. During this time I will be reevaluating my support of RC.

    • He is not talking about Martin Luther King…

    • Cody Stocking

      First post on this site. To be fair some of the things posted on this site are unearthing to my core beliefs. I believe they are posted with the purest of heart with the end result to abolish xonfusion which satan is good at using in humans with traditions and doctrines. Also with the end result to reveal the AC which is hard to do if all us Christians are chasing other rabbit holes. Yes Luther did good things, but according to research from Ted he held some unspiritual, fleshly views toward Islam. He was just a man. There are many men even in Hebrews 11, the hall of faith, that stumbled. In the end I believe the Shoebats main goal is to get the Spirit working in the direction of revealing the AC to to Church, which must happen before our Saviours return. There is evidence of past forefathers identifying Islam as the beast that the AC comes out of. This is all documented very well in Walids book. Isnt it quite obvious from observing the happenings now that it is more than feasible? My prayer has been to go in a church on a Sunday and hear prayers for the Saints in the Muslim lands, for Israel, and for the Church to pray for God to reveal the AC soon. Also to hear real objective discussion on how we think God will reveal the AC in the Church would be nice. At the current spiritual growth of the Church we are still sucking on milk learning how to love while there is a Holy War going abroad. The reason most people visit this site, I believe, is to get one step closer to the AC revealed and the Saviour’s return. Objectively, how do you think God is going to reveal the AC? Will he speak it plainly? Will it be an instantaneous revelation, or one that starts from a website like this one then word spreads. The believers will be few that way. But Jesus said few will enter the gate. If that’s true it would be sad that it has to come from the internet instead of the pulpits.

      • tl;dr

      • David Stafford

        Jesus, the son of David, was AC to the Jews. He is coming again. He is alpha and omega; the first and the last, the beginning and the ending, the root and the offspring, the evening and the morning star. Would it not be fair if, on his return, he would be AC to the Christians?

  • yahshua love’s you

    No wonder Hitler was such an big fan of martin Luther I geuse there is where he got his hatred towards the Jews from by the way its funny how meany preachers sometimes would speak about martin Luther bout how great he was and how he translated the bible from Latin to German and how he left the Catholic church because of its corruption and bla bla this and that please give me my yahshua ha moshiach my teacher

    • Yes even Lutherans admit that Luther was wrong about his antipathy for the Jews, that he wrapped it into the legalism of the Catholic Church and threw them all away together. He was also wrong in supporting infant baptism and opposing believers baptism. But he was right about the doctrines and power structure of the Catholic Church inhibiting and even opposing the Gospel.

      If you read the reformers as a group, you will see that they had no love for Islam. This stupid discussion is a red herring.

  • Rexlion

    To say that Luther was “worthy of Lucifer” is so extreme and ridiculous, I have to discount anything Thomas King says or writes. Here is a man who changed the course of history for the better by leading millions of people in the direction of grace through faith (rather than by dead works), and King practically calls him the devil’s spawn! King, it takes one to know one.

  • donethattoo

    Christians need to unite with our eyes wide open! The biggest thing we need to watch out for is Chris-lam. We need to watch all sides of the fence. We are all on the same side here and I do not think that the Muslims are asking our brothers and sisters if they are Catholic or protestant before killing them.

    I do agree that the Pope is saying some disconcerting things, such as “… for authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran are opposed to every form of violence”. (p.189)
    http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.pdf

    But we also have protestants signing on to “A Common Word”.

    This fight is going to be on an individual basis and we MUST be very careful to keep our eyes, hope and trust in God and not in man.

  • GranDam

    Being Jewish and having studied the life of Martin Luther (he who called for the burning alive of all Jews in their synagogues because they still refused to become Christians despite his rebellion against the Roman Catholic church), I could never understand why the great Black American leader, Martin Luther King, was named after him.

    • billobillo54

      Many Christians appreciate Luther because of his discovery of the great truth that salvation is by grace through faith alone. Many other great truths were expressed by Luther that have blessed millions of people. Millions of people, called “Christians,” “Evangelicals,” “Fundamentalists,” “Protestants,” “Pentecostals” “Charismatics,” all who never even thought one second about Martin Luther or even are aware of his existence but believe in Jesus. These people also are among THE MOST ARDENT SUPPORTERS OF JEWS AND ISRAEL. Anyone who doubts this should refer to PM Netanyahu’s many affirmations of this fact.

  • Christian Dad

    This article shows just how far a passion will “expand” a blogger’s view(s), something we should all be wary of before mindlessly accepting anything written.

  • alnga

    The whole story is a jab at one of the leaders of the reformation. No doubt that Martin Luther was a bit antagonistic toward Catholicism, but he remained a catholic his entire life. The papacy at certain times from it’s beginning in the third century AD was quite corrupt and at many times quite criminally active. I know anyone that hates the RCC, but I know many that pray that the People that make up the body of the Church would insist on solid Bible teaching in all of it’s churches..

  • Rexlion

    Have you ever taken a class in hermeneutics? One of the rules of sound Bible interpretation is that each scripture should be understood in the context of surrounding statements as well as in context with the entire Bible. Here we have James writing to some people who had accepted Jesus as savior (or who at least said they did) but were living and acting in a very un-Christlike way. James was trying to pull them back from the ditch and into the middle of the path. James is telling them: you say you’re believers, but you sure don’t act like it.

    You can’t take that in isolation. You can’t insist that salvation is by works based on what James said. Otherwise you are calling Paul a liar when he says we are saved by grace through faith and not by works. And you are calling Jesus a liar when he said repeatedly that all those who believe in Him would be saved. (John 3:15, 18; John 5:24)

    Yes, a person who says he is born again but who lives like the devil should examine himself, because a good tree bears good fruit. But that does not mean we can say that the good works or pure life will provide salvation; they are evidence and outward signs of the inner change. Let us not forget that Jesus also said, (John 6:29), “This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.”

    • David Stafford

      “Ye see then how that a man is justified by works and not by faith only.” James 2:24 Another gospel for special cases. Take a class in hermeneutics.

  • Rexlion

    In Luther’s day, the Pope and his Cardinals had plenty of folks burned at the stake for teaching salvation by grace through faith and for opposing the Roman practice of selling salvation for money (indulgences). Are you saying that the Pope and his Cardinals were clowns, too?

    • David Stafford

      I think you should be able to parse that out.

  • John J Phillips

    So is John the Baptist described as Jesus brother or cousin?

    • kenhowes

      John the Baptist was a cousin. His mother, Elizabeth, was Mary’s cousin. But James, Jude and others were his brothers (obviously, half-brothers, since he was not Joseph’s son). There are a number of traditions suggesting that Mary was perpetually virgin and that these were step-brothers, children of Joseph from a prior marriage, but none are prior to 300 except for the “Protoevangelium of James”, declared anathema by Pope Gelasius I as heretical. There is no Scriptural basis to deny what appears at a few different junctures, that James and others were Christ’s brothers. While there is enough tradition, and some linguistic evidence, that one would not condemn those–including both Luther and Calvin–who have believed the perpetual virginity, there is not nearly enough evidence to condemn those who reject that teaching.

  • David Stafford

    I have meant both types. Muslims who are very clean, neat, and disciplined; and Christians who proclaim, I sin every day! Not only that. You sin every day! Praise God. I know who is more pleasant.

  • David Stafford

    And ditto this one also.

  • David Stafford

    Ditto this one.

  • David Stafford

    There abide three things, faith, hope, and charity. The greatest of these is charity. (NOT FAITH) Why call ye me Lord, Lord, and do not the things that I say.

  • donethattoo

    Honestly Billo, what I think it boils down to is that we are ALL going to be APPALLED at the apostasy that we see in these end times. We need to be very careful to keep our eyes OFF of man.
    I am not a Catholic, I am not a Calvinist, nor an Arminian. I do believe that there is a right place for discussions of doctrine, but I also believe that we must be careful not to let it affect our effectiveness in serving the Lord.

    • billobillo54

      I agree with your admonition brother.

      • donethattoo

        Sister…. 😉

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  • 1Bobby8

    You were brought up Catholic but you know nothing about Catholicism. The teachings of the Church never teach that you get to heaven by works and not by grace. Who told you that? And we read scripture from the bible at every mass. From the Old Testament, one of the letters from the apostles, a reading from the Psalms and a Gospel reading. If you attend mass every day for 3 years, you’ll have read the entire bible…I don’t know what church you were attending, but it certainly wasn’t a Catholic Church if you didn’t know that already.

  • To prove a lie, you first must prove that the person knew the truth prior to making the claim. Secondly, I never once claimed to be a prophet so how can you claim that I am a “false prophet”. Its like me saying to you that you are a false surgeon, even though you were never a surgeon and your whole life you grew up just a local fool. Thirdly, when did you ever see me ask for your support financially. I’d rather you do your own work in finding persecuted Christians instead of me finding them for you to simply deliver your money to them. Find them and deliver it yourself. I never asked you for favors because you do none for me. In other words, I am not your typical doormat and I will clearly tell you to go and drink sea water. In other words, rude people like you need to get lost.

  • “this article on your own website clearly and violently misquotes Luther-”

    Do me a favor, since you did not elaborate by showing quotes that you charge were in error, just get lost. Do you know how to get lost? Or do you need help?

  • “Wow, again that was one of the worst anti-Martin Luther propaganda I have read here on shoebat.com. ”

    Perhaps, but just curious, why is Luther so important to you? I never read Osama Abdullah, met him once and found the man to be a happy meal with a few french fries missing. But I also find Luther missing more french fries than Abdallah. Yet millions upon millions follow the man.

    Most do not follow Jesus. Most follow men. They follow the worst of popes and the worst of pastors.

    Tell me, is the most popular pastor truly following to Jesus footsteps?

  • I am still lost here. I asked why Luther is so significant. I did not ask about the article.

    I was expecting an answer more like that he was a reformer or he discovered the light bulb or saved Christianity …

    So I ask again, in your view, is Luther very important, if so why if not why?

  • “He wanted to bring the church back to its core tenets:

    – Sola Fide, by faith
    alone.”

    Really?

    The hoopla started when Luther thought that “faith formed by charity” is not pure “faith alone” and all the fuss was over arguing over Luther’s Imputed righteousness vs. Catholic Imparted righteousness, yet in Methodist theology, they adhere to Imparted righteousness that salvation is the gracious gift of God given at the moment of the new birth which enables a Christian disciple to strive for holiness and sanctification. If this all sounded good for the geese (the Protestant) it also was good for the gander (the Catholic) as it is for the Methodist who are Protestants.

    John Wesley believed that imparted righteousness worked in tandem with imputed righteousness. Imputed righteousness is the righteousness of Jesus credited to the Christian, enabling the Christian to be justified; imparted righteousness which makes sense is what God does in Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit after justification, working in the Christian to enable and empower the process of sanctification (and, in Wesleyan thought, Christian perfection).

    All this fuss, and so they tell me that Luther was necessary since the devil corrupted the Church which added that “salvation is by works” and so we needed a reformation which sprung up when someone said that “salvation is by faith alone”.

    But was it only Martin Luther who added the word “alone” with the word “faith” in the same phrase? Such myth is busted since “faith alone” was used way before Martin Luther arrived to the scene by Origen Hilary, Basil, Ambrosiaster “sola fide justificati sunt dono Dei,” , “through faith alone they are justified by a gift of God”, John Chrysostom Cyril of Alexandria, Bernard and Theophylact who clearly said that man “is justified by faith alone”.

    The difference was that these were Catholic (you heard it right) and they were pro-James while Luther was vehemently anti-James: “Only the papists accept James on account of the righteousness of works, but my opinion is that it is not the writing of an apostle. Someday I will use James to fire my stove.”

    It was Luther’s inability to understand James. Luther questioned James as if “did God really say that man is not justified by faith alone?” and by that accusation alone against James one should run for their soul, not everything Luther said was biblically Kosher. The apparent contradiction is easily resolved when we conclude that faith is not defined to only mean “belief alone” as some nutty pastors make it to be but that it meant what the Orthodox taught “believe by action” as one claims to love but also ties the knot and gets married while another who tells a girl he loves her and year after year refuses to tie the knot. James said “Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works” is as if one says to another “show me your love to Nancy apart from your wedding and I will show you my love for Margaret by my wedding”. If the repentant prostitute and the repentant tax collector, who after reading these verses, can overlook each other’s sins, then fall in love through love, decide to tie the knot by marriage, and these two can deduce such simple biblical analogy, why can’t the theologian sophist and the polished debater do the same?

    The true and positive fundamental principle of Protestantism was there all along prior to Luther that the gratuitousness of salvation (sola gratia) is a gift provided by God without merit which originates outside of man by and through God’s grace so the early church and way before Luther had salvation defined. Throughout Church history in Catholic and Orthodox theology salvation has always been defined by Grace Alone plus nothing. Yes, you heard it right. I repent from all the falsities I have been taught, Mia Culpa, Mia Culpa Mia Maxima Culpa. Justification imparts the righteousness of Christ to man, transforming him by grace through the Holy Spirit into a child of God which is what was taught all along.

    They were even more conservative than Luther in that as the Second Council of Orange (529) which declared that saving grace is itself the result of grace which we do nothing by our natural powers, we can neither think as we ought nor choose any good pertaining to salvation. We can only do so by the illumination and impulse of the Holy Spirit. Yet this was established before Calvin was pre-destined to be born.

    I am yet to find a single Christian regardless of being Protestant or Catholic who says that we work our way to heaven, that is if he is being true to Protestantism or to Catholicism, everything positive I find that I love in Protestantism was already there pre-Luther, name it and I can find it.

    What you do not know is all the other hoopla that you bought, that if Jesus said, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God” they would question did Jesus really say “water”?

    It is the Cain mentality that questions the Word of God that when God wanted a blood sacrifice Cain should ask “does God really care if I offer grapes instead of blood?”

    That when Christ drank wine and said, “This is my blood” I should listen to someone who says, “Did Christ really drink wine or did He drink grape juice?”

    That is where I believe you follow Luther and Zwingli and not Jesus.