ISIS Will Take Over The Most Dangerous Muslim Nation On Earth, Take Its Nukes, And Commit The Bloodiest Massacre Of Christians We Will See

By Walid Shoebat (Shoebat Exclusive)

ISIS now has camped in Pakistan and all across Pakistan, the black standard of the Islamic State has been popping up all over from urban slums to Taliban strongholds, the ISIS logo and name have appeared in graffiti, posters and pamphlets and a cluster of militant commanders in Pakistan declared their allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the caliph of the Islamic State as ISIS presence there increases by the day. But the one trillion dollar question is will the world leaders secure Pakistan’s nuclear weapons from falling into the hands of ISIS? It doesn’t look like it and the prospects of ISIS gaining nuclear bombs are very likely as the news from Pakistan reveals.

To ensure that no nuclear weapons falls into the hands of ISIS, there is only one option, that the US takes control of Pakistan’s nukes and disarms Pakistan. But is this scenario even feasible? Hardly.

The problem in the West is that its comparing the ISIS problem with its previous predecessor Al-Qaeda so the western news consumers are not paying as much attention to how fast the Islamic State is moving and it’s not wasting time like al-Qaida did before and its moving in lightening speed.


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ISIS is moving quick. And now there is even more. The Pakistani media reported recently that a group of 10 commanders from ISIS are currently in Baluchistan to seek allegiance of Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and the Baloch freedom movement. This happened just a few weeks after a group of TTP under Maulana Fazlullah, voiced support for the terror group and swore allegiance to ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. It was not only Maulana Fazlullah who teamed up with ISIS, another local group called Jamaatul Ahrar, also declared its support for ISIS. Jamaatul Ahrar’s leader, Ehsanullah Ehsan, was quoted by Reuters as saying: “We respect them. If they ask us for help, we will look into it and decide.” According to the Daily Mail, the spokesperson of TTP and six senior figures have declared loyalty to ISIS.

The presence of ISIS was also confirmed by the Pakistani government. The presence of ISIS in Pakistan and allegiance of TTP groups is truly a disturbing news and is likely to have serious consequences for a country that is already in turmoil due to incompetent governance, economic crises and political tension. However, this is not the sole reason behind ISIS desire to start operations in Pakistan. There are multiple encouraging points that brought ISIS to the country that is already in turmoil. Large parts of Pakistan, Baluchistan and FATA are at the age of bifurcations. ISIS support to the freedom fighters of Baluchistan and jihadis of FATA will accelerate the freeing process of these provinces which will eventually become basis for ISIS in the region.

“The message they’re trying to convey is they are brutal to their enemies, and they are righteous in their cause,” says Karl Kaltenthaler, an expert on the rise of Islamic extremism and professor at the University of Akron. “If you mess with them, you’re going to pay a high price, and they will stop at nothing to achieve the triumph of their vision for Islam.”

And to top it all, just in the last two months, Shoebat.com reported all across the Muslim world, ISIS has magnetized a litany of major terrorist organizations to give the Bay’at (allegiance) and join under ISIS such as Jund al-Khilafah (Soldiers of the Caliphate, In North Africa), Ansar al-Shariah (Libya), Taliban (Pakistan), The Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (Pakistan’s North Waziristan), Al-Tawhid ​Battalion (Pakistan, Afghanistan), Al-Nusra (Lebanon), Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (Yemen), Ansar al-Tawhid in the Land of Hind (India), Anṣār Bayt al-Maqdis (Sinai) and Jund al-Khilafah (Egypt).

And if you think the situation in Iraq and Syria is bad think again, 98% of Pakistanis support Jihad and they have no problems with all the blood and gore of ISIS. Shoebat.com interviewed Farrukh Seif who is on the ground in Pakistan and had some very interesting observations about the seriousness of the situation:

The Nuclear Danger

Pakistan has some unprotected nuclear weapons and ISIS certainly has its eyes on that and beyond any doubt it will strive to reach those weapons.While the global leaders certainly understand that there is an extreme threat to global security if the risk that ISIS could get a hold of nuclear weapons, yet all world leaders especially Americans do is hold several international conferences on addressing the issue. ISIS is much stronger than Al-Qaeda and was able to hold some sort of chemical weapons in Iraq which they used against the Kurds.

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The way one can predict the outcome of things is to study the track record, if chaos happened in a corrupt nation with such an abysmal record, the rule is, that chances of worse repetitions are not far off, its not as if Pakistan, the most corrupt and most Islamist nation in the world is immune from smuggling the capability, among all the nuclear states Pakistan is the only country that leaked and transferred nuclear technology to the countries that are still under UN and US sanctions. It is also the only nuclear state that shelters and protect terrorist organizations such as Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, Haqani Network and now the infamous ISIS. The Pakistani nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan, leaked nuclear secrets to North Korea, Libya and Iran. Abdul Qadeer Khan not only accepted the full responsibility for transferring sensitive technology to mentioned states but he also revealed in 2004, that the former military ruler, General Pervez Musharraf, the top authority in Pakistan himself was involved neck-deep in nuclear proliferation.

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ISIS will strive for acquiring nuclear weapons in Pakistan and will get it, its only a matter of time. Assuming even if ISIS don’t fight for it, there are elements in Pakistan that may sell either nuclear technology or nuclear weapons to ISIS. If ISIS obtains nuclear weapons in Pakistan a new chapter of terrorism will emerge, and ISIS will turn into an invincible force. This time the world will have to deal with nuclear terrorism in Pakistan which will be fueled by drug money from Afghanistan and ISIS oil money from Iraq and will certainly have severe consequence not only for Pakistan but for the whole world.

Pakistan not only sheltered the worlds most wanted terrorist, Osama Bin Laden, but also protected him for several years inside its military town, Abbottabad while for years it denied it had anything to do with Al-Qaeda while its leader was in close proximity of the main military basis. And if Pakistan also protects Ayman Al Zawahiri, Jalal din Haqani, Mullah Omer and many others whats to stop it from protecting Caliph Abu-Bakr al-Baghdadi? Pakistan unlike any other nation in the world has thousands of radical madrassas (Muslim religious schools) that can easily produce as many warriors for ISIS as they want and has the major bulk of radical mullahs (preachers) that can easily justify ISIS’s mission and activities in Pakistan to produce and supply as many suicide bombers as needed and the killing machine will catapult into apocalyptic scenario.

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Pakistan’s military establishment is the most terrorist friendly entity in the world and considers terrorist groups as strategic assets for proxy wars in India and Afghanistan. Currently the ongoing sectarian violence in Pakistan’s Baluchistan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa provinces offer greater opportunities for ISIS to operate in Pakistan.

There is little time left and the situation for Christians in Pakistan will be dire for Rescue Christians to move as fast as possible to rescue enslaved Christians. One can imagine when ISIS rules regions in north Pakistan, Christian persecution will be unlike anything we have ever seen.

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  • http://batman-news.com Vinny Zee

    My question always is this, who makes the beautiful, colorful, properly worded English translated “anti-U.S.”, “Death to U.S.” posters for these predominately Muslim fanatics and protesters? How come we never see these signs written in French or German or Italian or Spanish? They are always written in English and then sewer piped into the American home via the media and newspapers. DO NOT think I am minimizing the threat. However, there must be a perception that the continued pushing of these images are going to cause the American’s knees to buckle and bow to the pressure. America has been underestimated before!

    We always talk about and look back to the “greatest Generation.” Surely they earned their keep and their position in history for how they defeated Nazism and Fascism. But there was so much anti-war, anti-American, anti-Imperialist sentiment in the U.S. even back in the 1930’s and 40’s. However, when push came to shove, that generation took care of business. Now we look back on them as the “greatest Generation.” All I will say right now is America has been underestimated before.

  • Tom_mcewen

    If I was looking for the poster child for an unstable third would nation with nuclear weapons, Pakistan wins hand down. That the ISIS would hit us if they got nuclear weapons I don’t doubt it.

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  • http://www.believersview.org/ Nicole

    I just skyped with a Christian youth leader from Pakistan last night and this morning, and his whole attitude and faith is so humbling and should be humbling to every Christian in the West. He does not fear ISIS, and consistently told me that he will be with the Lord in eternity, that ISIS can not take away anything but his body. You rarely hear the Western churches talk like that. He knows what real persecution is and the Bible comes to life in so many ways that the West has no idea about with that realization. Please donate and pray for the people of Pakistan. Feel free to add me to facebook for more fellowship and support–I would love to talk to any of you for encouragement. God bless.

    • shoebat

      ” his whole attitude and faith is so humbling …”

      But also reading your comments is a humbling experience. I much appreciate what you do Nicole. Throughout my experience in the west, I find that the women, more than the men are the movers and shakers behind encouragement and doing the good works. God bless you.

      • http://batman-news.com Vinny Zee

        “Throughout my experience in the west, I find that the women, more than the men are the movers and shakers behind encouragement and doing the good works.” … Not so fast Walid! ;-)
        Men and women partner quite nicely and effectively in my parts! When we learn to find each other’s strengths and lean on them, it is amazing to watch the body of Christ function as a whole.

  • shoebat

    “I have MUCH to learn still, as we all do.”

    The key in searching truth, is to let truth guide, and accept wherever truth leads us no matter how much it goes against our prejudices.

  • shoebat

    Now I put the pieces together. I was telling myself, Vernon and Nicole popped up from the sky and seem to already be likeminded as I am. I see. So you have been Shobetized already ;-) I need not to further do anymore brainwashing ;-)

    Most do not know the danger in damning the Catholic and Putin as “Harlot” and “Gog”. Now that Russia has been healed, when they war with Turkey, these anti-Catholic and anti-Russia would prefer to stand with the very person whom they claim to be against: Antichrist.

    Such folks you cannot even persuade them to accept a physical mark of God (perhaps a cross) on their foreheads in opposition of the mark of Antichrist. Imagine now that during Moses a group of Israelites would say “no” to marking their door posts and lintels, that the mark of God is in their heart.

    Would you think that the angel of death would spare them?

    But you see Vernon, God is already dividing the camp between “we healed in your name” and “we obeyed your commandments”. Its really that simple.

  • Marco Vincent

    Hey, the 2 photos above are from my country Indonesia. Yes, sadly there are MANY that muslims follows the logic “Khilafah ( Caliphate ) is already upon us, so its our duty to support it”. Sad.

    The National Police (Polri) already declare a ban on traveling to ISIS territory, BUT its not fully effective as Indonesian muslim activists can always go to Turkey or Egypt to later travel to ISIS territory.

    And on August 7 2014 the MUI (Majelis Ulama Indonesia)–the organisational body that rules/govern over the Islamic laws and matters in Indonesia declared that supporting and joining ISIS is HARAM ( sinful or forbidden ) for muslims, BUT they didn’t declare it as a FATWA, which is important as Fatwa is legally binding according to sharia law, so by this logic ANY MUSLIM CAN STILL SUPPORT AND JOIN ISIS SINCE THERE IS NO LEGALLY BINDING FATWA. — A fact that MUI CONVENIENTLY FORGET to explain to the press.

    So you can see that many Indonesian muslims openly show their support for ISIS online and offline without fear of being sued or arrested.

    I always amaze at the muruna and double speak that the muslims use to bend their logic/reasoning and words for the sake of Islam.

    About MUI declaration ( in Indonesian, but you can use Google translate ) :

    http://news.liputan6.com/read/2087796/mui-tidak-perlu-fatwa-isis-sudah-haram

    BTW, I think Indonesia would play an important part in the endtime because we are the MOST populous muslim nation on the planet. So, the moment the Turkish Antichrist declare himself the rightful Caliph , EVERY muslim ANYWHERE must declare their loyalty to him and moves to his kingdom. WHICH NATIONALITY DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD FILL HIS RANKS MOSTLY? The answer….INDONESIAN.

    Its honestly depressing to write this stuff, but its the truth, And yes, I can see Indonesia siding with the Antichrist nation, which the end result would either be fried or barbecued.
    Please pray for us, as we pray for you.
    GOD bless you all.
    Amen.

    • http://batman-news.com Vinny Zee

      I had no idea you were following this site from Indonesia. Very interesting and you have a very interesting perspective. I do not think we always agree on a theological level (I’ve read many of your posts.) However, given that you have a completely different reality of the world and Christianity because we are half a world a part, I certainly respect and appreciate your views. I guess even more so now that I know you are writing and seeing the world from Indonesia (I am sure a difficult place to be a Christian.)

      What a blessing the Lord has given us in the last days to be able to connect, talk and share with people (our brothers and sisters in Christ) all over the world. I’ll be looking to read more of your comments in the near future. I think it is good for Americans to get exposure to the realities of other nationalities living in other nations and to see the world from other views.

      • Marco Vincent

        Well, of course…we have “peace” in Indonesia. BUT its because we are placed exactly where we belong by the muslims, under their BOOT.

        Building new churches are almost impossible unless its backed by people that are “friendly” to us, but opening churches inside a mall with legal permit as “prayer groups” or small church is OK.

        Never speak bad things about Islam or its prophet, or get lynched or jail time.

        I even risked getting arrested if anyone knows that I’m part of this discussion.

        Every Eid al-Fitr ( Idul Fitri in Indonesian ) every non-Christian store owner or bussiness owner must “contribute” to various Islamic organisation..in essence its jizya.

        And every now and then we have to deal with muslims demonstration that can often burst into violence ,depending on the organisation.

        Shamanism and mysticism are ripe in the Indonesian society.
        Ignorance ,heresy and corruption are also ripe in many churches.

        Our government official policy regarding Israel is NO DIPLOMATIC RELATION and we recognize Palestine only.

        Hamas, PA and Muslim Brotherhood all have their representatives in Indonesia.

        Muslim Brotherhood even has an affiliated official party that control half of the parliament–PKS ( Partai Keadilan Sejahtera )–Prosperous Justice Party

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperous_Justice_Party

        So…yeah…We Christians have a very “peaceful” existence.

        Pray for us,OK?
        GOD bless you.
        Amen.

        • Dan Knight

          God bless you, Marco. We will keep you in our prayers.

  • shoebat

    Its the difference between signs and wonders vs. movers and shakers.

    The signs and wonders group always accuses the movers and shakers (the workers) of believing in works based salvation. Such are more into Scriptural gymnastics than anything. If one obeyed Christ following one verse and knew very little Scripture is better off than the one who spends a lifetime as a Scriptural gymnast who get obedience wrong. This is why I’d rather listen to an old lady who lights up a candle at the foot of the cross and has her life in order vs. the one who takes away all the crosses from his church and posts a globe, drum and beat and sits there for years doing scriptural gymnastics. In fact, Vernon’s dialogue here inspired me to do an article on this.

  • Trevor

    I mentioned this on Twitter, but I’ll say it again.

    A nuclear armed Iran is hardly the threat that ISIS is when they get armed with nukes. The party that benefits from ISIS having nukes is Turkey. I don’t know if Turkey is a nuclear nation, but that’s something for NATO consider. They got to kick Turkey out of the alliance and build up their military. The EU is getting more and more nervous, to the point I read that they are already talking about increasing military spending in the face of severe economic conditions.

    The alliance between Turkey and Iran will get more lopsided as times go on, hence why the Beast of the Sea is 90% leopard (Turkey), 8% bear (feet – Iran), and 2% Iraq (mouth – Iraq).

    I also suspect this is why eventually when Christ returns and Christendom revives, the Turkic-Persia alliance will turn on itself.

  • http://batman-news.com Vinny Zee

    Would you be willing to share your blog website address here? Blogs are about the only place you can go to get real news anymore.

  • http://batman-news.com Vinny Zee

    Can you just post your website/blog as part of your profile on Disqus? This way if people click your name it will show your website. The reason I asked earlier because I was getting an error message trying to click on your name in hopes your website would be listed there. If you do not want to do that, I will just email you. Thanks!

  • http://batman-news.com Vinny Zee

    Thanks! I don’t do Facebook, so I guess I’ll miss out on that part, but I will be reading in detail the other two. Thanks again.

    You and Vernon were both just talking about video chatting with a missionary in Pakistan. Just last week my family and I hosted a missionary from Central Asia (predominantly Muslim – 97-98%) country where we served in 2009. It has been a blessing to continue partnering with him and his team. It is amazing the laws that were just passed while he was here in the U.S. and what he must return to in his country and deal with once home. The government there now is all Muslim run now and the “non-Orthodox” churches are the first ones they are trying to snuff out! But it was so refreshing to see his faith and passion despite the circumstances. They always talk about us encouraging and uplifting them, IF ONLY THEY NOW HOW THEY ACTUALLY DO IT FOR US HERE!

    Keep on serving Christ. “Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us. Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. Consider him who endured such opposition from sinful men, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.” – Hebrews 12:1-3

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  • shoebat

    Yes I heard. God bless him for it. He is also helping the Christians in Syria with their churches and training for defense.

  • AnthonyM

    Do you mind going back into your comment using the Edit button and delete the obscenity? I Believe (below) is right, there is no place for that language, no matter how ticked off you are. Thanks.

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  • Muhammad Zaki

    A malicious and third rate propaganda against Islam and Pakistan. Christians and other minorities are safe in Pakistan and living freely. More than 50thousand people most of them Muslims have laid down their lives in so-called very few of them are Christians or other minorities.Instead raising fingers on others US and the West should revisit thier brutalities they have commiitted fromI raq, Palestine, Syria and Afganistan.US aggressions on Muslim countries have killed millions of innocent people in Muslim countries. PLZ stop terrorizing the world first, and than talk about ISIS OR AL-QAIDA.

    • shoebat

      Its always the argument of a terror supporter that the victims were terrorists. You would have done much better to spread your lies by running your mouth about Pakistan, that there is no Christian persecution, some idiots would have believed you, but when you go off with trash like “US aggressions on Muslim countries have killed millions of innocent people in Muslim countries.” You have lost your audience. You are not a seasoned deceiver Mr. Zaki. You act as the United States provoked Al-Qaeda by hunting for them in Tora Bora forgetting 9-11 which sparked it. The mistake the U.S. did was not to go after Al-Qaeda before 9-11 where 3000 Americans were massacred. Come here and talk carp like this and someone will shove a baseball bat where the sun doesn’t shine. So get lost creep and stay in that crap-hole called Pakistan where you belong and send us your Christians.

  • shoebat

    Muhammad, I will teach you something that Islam doesn’t teach, in the Bible it says “while evildoers and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.” (2 Tim 3:13)

    Lets get one thing straight, your being deceived therefore you are deceiving.

    “after reading them I have become a laughing stock.”

    Your right, you have become a laughing stock, your error fits.

    Deceived always fall under one main category: they all believe in conspiracy theories. Example: “it has not been confimed yet whether Al-qaida was behind 9-11 attacks!”

    And perhaps someday you will tell us that Japan did not attack Pearl Harbor?

    The wicked cannot see their wickedness because wickedness is painted as good. Your Islam is a folly and its end is self-destruct. If the Ottomans ended up becoming the sick man of Europe, it will revive, sure, but it will end up the dead man forever.

    Our God has defeated your god who is satan in disguise as god.

    I know this infuriates you, but the sooner you get the hang of it the better. Allah loves the sword, but God defeated him by a piece of wood that shattered your metal, its called the cross which you surly deny, but in the end, you and all your ilk will bow (Isaiah 45-46)

  • AnthonyM

    Islam wants to rule the world for Allah. but the world does not want Islam. So Islam uses Jihad and war since the time of Mohammed to have it your way.

    The atom bomb was used against Imperial Japan, and cost 129000 lives, your estimate is off. But Imperial Japan would not surrender, and an invasion would have cost millions of lives. So, while it was bloody, many thousands of lives were not lost by using of the bomb. Hopefully one day atomic bombs will not be used.

    From the evidence in Furgeson, the dead victim committed robbery, assaulted a police officer who had a gun (how stupid is that?), was high on dope, had 5 chances to save his live until he continued to advance and took a killing shot. He did not value his life or anyone else’s. And now Muslims are in Furgeson and in other US cities agitating for violence. This is a aggression. What about the rape of women in Europe by muslims. It is a means of terror, or jihad. As the muslim population in a host country becomes larger, they become more violent. That is why they are a terror in Africa, as Africa is not strong. Islam is not a religion of peace, but a religion of conquest. Islam is not just a religion, but an all encompassing brutal control of humanity to serve those in power. Mohammed was not a prophet, and the Koran is not holy. I’m sorry you don’t like this, but you need to wise up. ‘at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth’. Get ready, Jesus is coming soon.

  • michelletherese

    I have read and re-read and re-re-read “God’s War on Terror” so many times!

  • shoebat

    Brother Muhammad:

    “Now I will begin with Assalamo AlaiIum”

    Wa’alakum Assalam,

    Although you misspelled Alaykum, let me remind, that the first category believe that the response to the greeting of salaam from a Christian should be ‘wa’alaikum (And upon you too) or Alaikum’ (let it be upon you) and no more. There is no adding “Wa-rahmat-u-Allahi wabarakatuh” and is why you did not add “Allah’s mercy and blessings be upon you”, why?

    Is it because of the popular Hadith of Anas Bin Malik related by Bukhari and Muslim; that the Messenger of Allah said:

    “When the people of the Book offer you salutations, you should say: the same to you” (wa’alaikum)?

    So are you a Muslim fundamentalist Muhammad? You say “no”, that “Islam is a religion of peace and love and abhors terrorism in any form.”

    Okay, then tell me brother Muhammad, from your inner soul, was the sword necessary to spread Islam? Yes/No? (and when I ask a Yes or No question I would rightly expect a Yes or No answer).

    Was it peaceful Islam which in the beginning that conquered Christian Syria in 637, and was it peaceful Islam that invaded Christian Armenia, 639, to later massacre 1.2 Million Armenian Christians in 1915, then the conquest of Christian Egypt in 639 A.D., in which the population of the Christian Copts gradually decreased from nine million to 700,000 in the early 1900’s?

    The case of how Egypt fell to Islam needs pause; Egypt is an
    important case-in-point regarding the tolerance to Islam. It is a fact of history that the Egyptians allowed Muslims just like you who said that “Islam means peace” into their country.

    And what happened?

    When the Egyptian populace heard that the Muslims were arriving, they accepted them with open arms, not seeing them as deceiving heretics, but as people who merely believed in one God. Their open mindedness would have received the applause of the moderns, but the end result was the consequence of all ultra equality and tolerance: violence.

    Was it right for the Muslims to break right into the country, plundering, burning, and massacring wherever they went. They took the city of Nikius with much bloodshed, putting to the sword everyone they met, “in the streets and in the churches, men, women, and children alike, sparing none.” It did not take long for the Egyptians to recognize that their acceptance of peaceful Muslims was a grave mistake.

    Was it peaceful Islam that marched – with the same ravishes as in Egypt – for the conquest of Christian North Africa, 652, then the conquest of Christian Cyprus, 654. And then under the Umayyads, more conquests into Christian North Africa, 665, then the first Arab siege of Christian Constantinople, 674–678, then the second Arab siege of Christian Constantinople, 717–718?

    Was it peaceful Islam that ravished Christian Hispania (Spain), 711–718, then the conquest of Georgia, 736 in eastern Europe, then Christian Crete, 820, then the conquest of Christian southern Italy, 827 and 831–902?

    How about Christian Nubia: 700–1606?

    How about Anatolia: 1060–1360 and the bloody history against Christianity, which continued into the Byzantine-Ottoman Wars: 1299–1453, further conquests:

    1200–1800, after the Mongol Empire removed the Abbasid Caliphate, rampaged through most of the Muslim world following the Battle of Baghdad (1258), they soon converted to Islam, beginning an era of Turkic and Mongol Muslim expansions into Christian Eastern Europe, Central Asia and India in which they slaughtered an enormous sum of eighty million and literally erected towers of skulls.[3] They knew little about how Islam jolted itself into becoming the superpower after Islam in 1068 with Alp Arslan and allied Turkmen tribes recaptured many Muslim Abbasid lands and invaded Christian Byzantine regions, pushing further into eastern and central Anatolia after a major victory at the Battle of Manzikert in 1071, which laid the foundation to create the Ottoman Empire which came as result of the disintegration of the Seljuk dynasty, which was The Sultanate of Rum or Seljuk Sultanate of Rum (Anadolu Selçuklu Devleti or Rum Sultanlığı).

    None of this seems to fit your version of Islam and I ask: Is there perhaps TWO Islams? Yes/No?

    Yet you say “I have great respect for other religions and Christianity”

    Then are you will to condemn what I have just expressed about Muslim invasions? Do you condemn all these Islamic invasions into Christian lands? I condemn the United States for intervening in Libya and Syria and I have done so through multiple articles publicly. Are you willing to do the same and condemn this part of Islamic history? Lets see your metal, Muhammad, what is it made of, iron or clay?

    “and also for the pole of U.S and other countries. A number of my friends are Christians and religion has never become a bone of contention between us. Like other religions there may also be some extremists in our society but it does not mean that our religion teaches us hatred against others, instead Islam is a religion of peace and love.”

    You either have created a pathological lie and told yourself something that is not true, or else you are yourself being dishonest or you truly reject Islam and have formed your own Islam. There is a seeming contradiction in what you say, that Islam was “peaceful” which is not true.

    “Is this not a violation of international law that you are invading countries thousands miles away.”

    Kuwait and Saudi Arabia by right of defense requested hep from a NATO nation for self-defense, Saudi Arabia invited the United States, this is legal. But how do you feel about that? The protectors of the two holy places invited Christians to defer them?

    But you picked the wrong issue, Iraq, you should have picked Syria and Libya and I would stand on your side, the United States was wrong to intervene, yet you never said anything about that. Is it because the United States is aiding in the spread of Islamism?

    “I think this is the main problem that creates reaction and give birth to extremism and organisations like Qaida, Daish and likewise.”

    I fully agree on this point. You are correct here.

    “Will people of U/S accept intefrenece of any other country in thier internal matters, whatever the intensity and nature of these problems may be!”

    There is some truth to what you say here, but to paint the U.S. as a terrorist state as you did previously is a stretch don’t you think?

    “Than how you think that we will accept your interference in our countries. Who is US and the West to decide what system of governance we should adopt, what we should eat and wear, what culture we should follow.”

    The U.S. looks after its own interests just like any other nation. But can you compare the U.S. with all the Islamic invasions? Show me once where the United States occupied a nation indefinitely? The answer is NEVER. They always pulled out of every nation they invaded including Hitler’s Germany. Now show me a single nation that Islam invaded and they pulled out? Answer is NONE, only by force did Christians throw Muslims out.

    “We have our own norms and values and we are happy with them”

    Are you serious? You live in Pakistan. If the U.S. opened the visas for Pakistanis to leave Pakistan and come to the United States 99% would not even hesitate and come here by the droves. It was the case during the Crusaders, the Muslims loved to live in Crusader territory. Christianity provides a much better way to think and live despite of all the sins, because Christianity is the TRUTH and Islam is NOT.

    “than why we should accept the world order designed by the US and the West.”

    Because it is tough love. Look at Egypt during the classical times when art and music and culture was superb after the English occupied it from the damned evil Turks. Look at Egypt now with the rise of Islam, what happened to all the art?

    Look at India, when they used to burn women (Sati) in which the Christians prohibited the act and made India somewhat civilized after the English butchered all the worshippers of Kali, the Thggies.

    “You also did not reply on Israeli atrocities in Gaza, its illegal occupation and United States’ overt and covert support to Israel. ”

    I did, what I presented was the missing link to your myth, that Israel came as an occupier. This is false. There was no Israeli military, it formed and evolved by settlers who were continually attacked by thugs. I explained in 1967 (I was there) the whole Arab world clamored behind Jamal Abdul Nasser to invade Israel and Israel won in SELF DEFENSE. Why do you reject the truth? Refute the history of how Israel was formed. Have you done that? Yet you projectile to now and condemn Israel for fighting terrorists. Why? Its because you Muhammad SUPPORT terrorism.

    “Hopefully, despite all odds we can be good friends and find ways for co-existence.”

    Agreed. We can become good friends.

    “PLZ keep in mind that when we talk about the U/S and the West we infact discuss their govts’ policies, not the people.”

    What type of work do you do?

    “We have great regard for you and your people. I myself have very good experiences with them AS I have enjoyed the hospitality and love of people of America a few years ago and have great respect and regard for them.”

    So you visited the U.S.? As student, government worker?

    Alright for now,

    God bless

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  • David Harding

    Walid, this basic faith that the typical Muslim around the world still entertains is the open door thru which ISIS and the new Caliphate are simply waltzing. I wish I could concieve of a solution, other than waiting around for Jesus to come back and make war against them. Are Muslims reachable? You have much more experience than me or most anyone. Your very life is at risk daily. Are Muslims generally reachable, or do they mostly fall into complacency with fundamentalist Islamic teachings?

  • David Harding

    Putin is smart by taking the Christians, we will get f%cked by taking the Muslims, whose children will grow up hating us.