Pope Francis Gets Rid Of Anti-Homosexual Cardinal (HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA HAS CREEPED INTO THE VATICAN)

By Ted on November 9, 2014 in Featured, General

By Theodore Shoebat

Pope Francis just removed one the most, if not the most conservative cardinal in the Vatican, Cardinal Raymond Burke, and placed him in a position where he will pretty much remain doormat. This same cardinal said that under Francis the Vatican has become, “a ship without a rudder” As we read from one report:

Pope Francis has reassigned a conservative American cardinal from a key post to one that is mostly symbolic.

Cardinal Raymond Burke, a leading conservative, has been vocal in his criticism of the direction the Pope is leading the Catholic Church in.

Burke was one of the highest ranking Americans in the church hierarchy in his position on the Vatican’s supreme court. But he was reassigned to the position of Patron of the Order of Malta, the Vatican announced on Saturday. The National Catholic Reporter points out that Burke’s new post is a job that “has almost no responsibilities.”

The Vatican did not give a reason for the demotion.

The change, however, was not unexpected. Last month, Burke himself said he had been ousted from the Vatican’s high court.

Burke has been outspoken about his opposition to Pope Francis’ move toward more openness and inclusiveness of gays and lesbians.

“The Pope is not free to change the church’s teachings with regard to the immorality of homosexual acts or the insolubility of marriage or any other doctrine of the faith,” Burke told Buzzfeed recently.

When a recent draft report included a call for the church to be more welcoming to gays, Burke said the report “lacks a solid foundation in the sacred Scriptures.”
Subsequently, some of the language on the “gifts and qualities” that gay people can bring to the church was removed from the report.

The Pope has appointed moderates in several big dioceses, including in Chicago earlier this fall, and he’s removed some archconservatives from their posts.

There is a very dangerous homosexual supporting ring deeply entrenched in the Vatican, which is helping enable it when it conducts mass with such a depraved heretic.

I have myself experienced, to some measure, this homosexual supporting ring in the Catholic Church, in a conversation I had with one priest and Catholic canon law judge, named Robert L. Kincl (also known as Fr. Bob Kincl), who was ordained in Rome. Kincl had befriended us as a fan of Shoebat.com acting as conservative, yet referred to homosexual fondling as permissible in the conversation. Having been shocked at his remarks, I told Kincl:

How can you, as a priest, be so liberal toward such a sick evil as two men fondling each other, or as two men having a “relationship” just as long as they are not going with other men. It is evil and it is reprobate.

I also told him:

It is not tolerable for you, as both a priest and a canon law judge, to be permissive to somebody having a homosexual relationship just as long as they are not being promiscuous with other men. It is deplorable, and in the words of St. Paul, “worthy of death” (Romans 1:32).

Kincl defended his position and responded with a rejection of the Old Testament and a twisting of St. Paul’s condemnation of homosexuality in Romans, stating

We do not follow the Hebrew Scriptures. We follow Jesus Christ who never mentioned gay relationships. When St. Paul mentioned such a relationship he was referring to the promiscuousness of the Romans using sodomy.

Shoebat.com decided to investigate Kincl and found that he has a dark past. In 1993, Kincl worked as a Commander in charge of clergy at the U.S. Navy, and while he was in the service he defended another chaplain confirmed to be guilty of child molestation, named Robert Hrdlicka.

The investigation revealed that Robert L. Kincl had even written the authorities, not to charge the pedophile who molested the young boys, but urged them to send him back to serve as a chaplain:

Catholic chaplain Lt. Robert Hrdlicka pleaded guilty to molesting boys in 1993. Before his sentencing, six other Catholic Navy chaplains and the church’s archbishop for the military services urged authorities to send Lt. Hrdlicka to a church-run treatment center.

“It is my fervent hope and prayer that he will be able to return to the active ministry as soon as possible,” wrote then-Cmdr. Robert L. Kincl.

Instead, Lt. Hrdlicka went to prison.

Shoebat.com looked up Kincl’s My Life page, to find out that after all these years Kincl is still friends with Hrdlicka the pedophile, since he is on his friends list, of which I took snapshots:

Just as we have Muslims, like Bergdahl, who have infiltrated the military, we have people like Kincl who have infiltrated both the military and the Catholic Church, with their depravity.

Kincl is now serving as a priest in Our Lady’s Maronite Catholic Church alongside Msgr. Don Sawyer. When I confronted Sawyer on Kincl, Sawyer vehemently defended Kincl.

Robert L. Kincl, depraved priest who defended another child molesting priest

Robert L. Kincl, depraved priest who defended a child molesting priest

Don Sawyer, Msgr. at Our Lady’s Maronite Catholic Church where Kincl serves

Shoebat.com decided to contact the Diocese of Austin to file a complaint, and spoke with the Very Reverend Daniel E. Garcia as the Vicar General for the Diocese of Austin, and Chancellor and Secretariat Director for Administration, Deacon Ron Walker, who were under Bishop Joe S. Vásquez of the Diocese of Austin.

We asked them how could someone who supports homosexuality and defended a pedophile still be serving as a priest and not be excommunicated, to which Deacon Ron Walker, rolling his eyes, said that the Church’s main objective would be to reconcile him with God, and not excommunicate him.

It seems that the Diocese of Austin could care less if one of its priests supports homosexuality and defended a pedophile.

Bishop Joe S. Vásquez

Vicar General Danny Garcia of the Diocese of Austin

Why is this man serving as a priest when the Catholic Church, in its teachings, forbids homosexuality?

It is not surprising to see how far reaching homosexuality has gone in the Vatican. What other deviancies will enter the Vatican in the next decade remains to be seen. Whatever happened to normal sin? In the good old days, steeling a chicken perhaps constituted such sin, but these days, its sleeping with it.

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Trevor

Theodore, I was waiting for your post about this. I was reading at Yahoo about this Cardinal who was “demoted” for telling the truth. Does it strike anybody as ironic that the American Cardinals are the one speaking up the truth about the homosexual agenda? I am sure there are other Cardinals around the world who are banding together and speaking against the agendas that threatens to rip apart the Vatican.

As Jesus famously said, “The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly,” John 10:10, and that is exactly what is happening today, not only within the Vatican, but within the Protestants congregations as well.
- Julie
  
  We have to embrace the Cross.
  
  American bishops live in the Mother Lode of the sexual obsession and destruction of the family and sexual morality. I have homosexual couples and transvestites in my neighborhood plus an instantly created Muslim community, of which I have had already 4 negative and disturbing experiences with these people.
  
  I tried to reach out to them but an American Shi ia who is married to a Catholic told me it would be very difficult for me to establish any relationship with them…
  
  Anyway I live in a rough area of the country, NW, euthanasia, etc as well. The place is beautiful but an empty disconnected beauty…
Behnam

Christ came to call sinners to repentance just like a doctor comes to heal the sick. If someone who has been homosexual is truly interested in finding Christ then I say by all means let them but indeed still teach how immoral homosexuality is. The rest is up to them, they either change or they don’t. When it comes to pedophiles I don’t know why the church took so long finding and kicking them out.
susan

Very interesting article Ted. Do you think Pope Francis is up to the task? Will he turn a blind eye to the homosexual agenda? I don’t see how a corrupt pope will be able to lead a crusade. I’m disturbed that he’s removed several archconservatives from their posts. I wish there was a website for depraved priests so we could know where they’ve landed.
- shoebat
  
  Susan,
  
  The Falling Away must come first. It will hit where the truth was held. This will increase to a point in which we will all vomit. But what we must focus on is not the vomit, but the sweet fruit. Bitter times are coming, just keep your lamp filled with oil. Your faith is strong, I can see the fire in you and where there is fire, there is light and where there is light there is oil.
  
  A crusade might come from Russia.
  - Julie
    
    You are echoing what Pope Benedict said..that our faith communities would become very small…then in time the Church would be resplendent, no more schisms, cults, sects, but one Shepherd again.
    
    I heard an audio by Malachi Martin where he recorded John Paul II affirming that Russia would start WWIII in the Ukraine.
    
    So I see Russia with mixed perceptions….they do alot of stealing and hacking and come across so obsessed with the USA.
    
    My Jewish client’s parents came from Crimea. She said her dad became a communist to get work. He said Russia has so much natural resources but some kind of problem or disability in not working with their own resources.
    
    I also have heard Russia will be the place some day that will adore God like no other country. My Catholic radio station plays Russian Orthodox music and it is so holy that I now have 2 and played the music to my tiny grandson when he was only weeks old.
    
    I continue to pray for Russia.
Marco Vincent

Depressing news indeed, Ted.

This recent demotion of Cardinal Raymond Burke may seem as a backward step in the defence of the faith. Many will see it as a pro gay agenda move.

But I think there is more to it than just a simple pro gay agenda. I think all of this are part of the political purge of the entire Roman Curia, as Raymond Burke was the head of Apostolic Signatura ( the highest judicial authority in the Catholic Church ), a very powerful and influential position in the Roman Curia.
Demoting him would sent a strong message to the ones that oppose the Pope , that no one is “safe”.
Gay agenda or not , this is a signal that Pope Francis doesnt want to suffer the previous Pope’s fate.

[ Benedict’s official retirement story seems too “perfect”, as some people suspect his retirement was due to his conflicts with the Roman Curia and for his stand for Catholic conservatism, which included the open defiance against Islam and liberalism ]

What can we do now is to pray that the Catholic Church doesnt make the wrong choices and they would set aside petty interest and powerplay for the greater good of the faith.

What do you think , Ted? Is Pope Francis really smoking out the oppositions and playing tough? Shaking the Roman Curia to the core so they would embrace his view? Is his view really “that liberal”?

GOD bless you.
Amen.
- susan
  
  Great questions! I hope Ted answers them.
billobillo54

This is a sad situation. I attended and graduated from a Roman Catholic high school and my undergrad degree was from a well known Jesuit University. In both institutions the homosexual priests were well known, their misbehavior well known and outrageous and they were immune to removal or even the slightest discipline. Oh yes, one was told at the university to stop “visiting” the men’s dorms. One foreign language teacher in high school a priest told dirty gay jokes in class, invited guys to h is residence, etc. No problem. Nothing was done to stop him. Our Lutheran Church which I now am a member of separated from the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America over the issue of the synod’s acceptance of homosexuality. Our pastor led the way opposing the homosexual agenda. The Bishop came to our church to make her case. She gave us a stupid story that Roman’s Chapter 1 was unintelligible in the Greek, as were the other injunctions against fornication and homosexuality in the NT. I personally told her, as well as others at the meeting, we being only church members, that she was in grave error. We voted to leave the synod and lost many liberal members. Our attitude was and is “good riddance.”
- RodK1975
  
  Billo, off topic, but I got the book… I’m not far in to it yet but blown away already! Thanks, Brother!
  - billobillo54
    
    You are welcomed Bro. And special thanks to Walid Shoebat.
    - RodK1975
      
      YES! Absolute special thanks to Mr. Shoebat. I think having watched several of his lectures on the subject is making the wealth of information in the book less overwhelming, if that makes sense.
momprayn

Thought this interesting about this from Judi McLeod, Ed. Canada Free Press, a Catholic – especially since the topic of praying has been “hot” on here. Excerpts:

“There is a surefire way to cut to the chase in getting around the at-its-full-peak tumult of the tilting-to-the-left Vatican and the road it is trying so hard to take The Faithful: Go over their heads, directly to Jesus.

Go directly to Jesus knowing at heart that NO ONE and NOTHING can stop you.

Bypass New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan whenever he again breaks bread with that year’s presidential candidate..
Bypass all cardinals and bishops who will be working intently over the next year to turn their leftist ideals raised at last month’s eye-opening synod into intractable law.
Tune out of the failing Salt and Light TV. Tune instead into Michael Voris ‘Church Militant‘ TV.
.
And, yes, in going directly to Jesus, bypass Pope Francis, even though these words are ones I never thought I’d ever write.
It was cantor David Domet of Vox Cantoris who unknowingly inspired me to include the Holy Father in my Bypass Map.

Bypass the neo-pagan ideology that will be made into canon law and presented as a fait accompli at next year’s synod—even though it means bypassing the Holy See.

Go directly to Jesus in your prayers where no one and nothing in the Valley of Tears can stop you from going.”

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/67423
- Julie
  
  My grandmother told me to go to Mass to hear the Word of God and receive the sacraments and not look at clergy so much…immediately after Vatican II when the abuses were starting.
  
  We can have had popes in all sorts of human foibles and errors….only when the Pope already sees the Church’s faith on matters of faith — the universal Church, he then consults all the bishops and with their consent — then makes an infallible statement.
  
  No infallible statement ever yet made on morals.
  
  I know many Catholics do not believe in abusing gay people even though many of us are very uneasy with celibate, note — celibate and faithful gay priests. I have met some and they are very good…but I can see their orientation in some ways as well…….
http://www.jerrywdavis.com/ #TruthToMan

Deleting my comments is just like choosing to continue with the Universal Church, Mr. Shoebat. Denial will never change the truth.
- shoebat
  
  You think all we do is sit here watching over to delete your comments? We do not even know who you are, a drawing of a lion with a nickname Truth To Man. This is the first time I heard of you and you are already accusing falsely that someone deleted your comment. Is this all what you people do: complain while you say that you are pure truth? Give me us a break, will you?
shoebat

Is this the amazing comment which you claimed was “deleted”? You couldn’t wait for the moderator to approve? So what is so amazing about this comment that we supposedly censored from the whole world not to see lest they get deceived? Lets see, ok, the Catholic Church is corrupt, we agree, is this something new? You should be happy that we expose corruption. Lets see “One cannot serve both God and the world”, as if none of us know this?

“Clearly, the Universal Church represents the world and will not be turned from its sin.”

Same goes for the Protestant/Evangelical/Messianic, its all going down hill.

Whats your point?
richinnameonly

If you believe the Catholic Church is finished, I would think you would have to believe the same thing about all Christian churches that I know of. I’ve never found one that I could see had and followed 100% of the truth as I see it. BTW I’m not Catholic at present.
- Tom_mcewen
  
  The Romans tried, every empire tried and they disappeared, the church was looted by the Napoleon, blooded by Hitler and Stalin, wiped out in China and now is 21 million, hold your breath see who dies first you or the church, my heart and faith fails at time, but we have Christ’s promise what are we as Catholics who doubt Christ, we would be salt who has lost our taste. The Church is like a Eucharist miracle a small visible part connected to the massive invisible and that cannot be touched by man
momprayn

In a meeting with African bishops Monday, Pope Francis called for more careful instruction for seminarians on dealing with Muslims.

“I think it is important that the clergy receive a more structured training in the seminary in order to carry out a constructive dialogue with Muslims, a dialogue ever more necessary to live a peaceful coexistence with them,” he said.

The Pope noted that Africa presents a special situation for Christians because Islam is “strongly majoritarian” in many places. He added that there are great differences from place to place in the “conditions of reciprocal relations” with Islam.

The Pope added that if all of us who believe in God want to serve reconciliation, justice, and peace, “we must work together to outlaw all forms of discrimination, intolerance and sectarian fundamentalism.” On the Church’s part, he said, she “must constantly bear witness to the love of God, the Creator of all men, making no distinction among religions in her social action.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/11/10/Pope-Calls-for-Seminary-Training-for-Dealing-with-Muslims
shoebat

hardly
shoebat

Your right about one thing, that I am “mean”. Running a falafel stand while having to serve all these customers can at times get to me, that plus the firer is hot and the grease splashes at me from time to time.
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dovari

Reply to some comments below:

A catholic exposing Catholics is honesty. What Mr. Walid is doing here is just that. He loves his Church and is rebuking it with love for the good. Protestants will do well to emulate this man and self-critic themselves. Else, their own hypocrisy will find them out, sooner than later.
We are living in the days of Noah. The Lord’s coming is near. Let’s focus on that in stead of finger-pointing at others with no good intentions.

“Christianity is not about sycophancy, …”

AMEN
- billobillo54
  
  As a Protestant I say “Amen.” This web site also follows your advise, since the criticism against Protestantism is very voluminous indeed. Protestantism and Protestants deserve criticism. We must take it humbly and repent where sin is evident. We must also remain faithful to the Gospel of Grace, which is “Jesus Christ and Him crucified,” the only source of Divine Love
  - dovari
    
    Amen.
    St. Paul said, “…we preach Christ crucified. “, “Christ in you the hope of glory….”,
    As we preach these eternal truths, are we above reproach, is the big question before us.
    2 Cor. 7:1, “Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.”
    1 Thess. 4:4- “That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God: That no [man] go beyond and defraud his brother in [any] matter: because that the Lord [is] the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified. For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness. ”
    Heb. 12:14 “Follow peace with all [men,] and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord …”
    
    The final quote is particularly important: Holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord.
    Blessings
Tom_mcewen

This is insane, the church has paid out billions and has a black eye which will last generation due to homosexual priests, 85% of the attacks were by homosexuals, we need to recover and homosexuals should not be be part of the plan. they need to be rooted out. they want to loved for their acts and if we surrender the church is lost
Tom_mcewen

Protestants in the West think the Christian world is protestant, far from it, protestantism is small and from what I see The Church of England is a good example of protestantism that is destroying all of protestantism by a show of hands, and the picking of verses which become not a part of a paragraph, a chapter, a book a bible, but this verse becomes the cornerstone of a new protestant church, if we see our neighbor fall we are to help him up, but protestants glory in fallen neighbor a catholic and dance on his head, while their own churches are consumed by a show of hands, protestantism is dying. The Catholic Church will survive but protestantism as Christ said has no life in it. protestantism is a shot gun blast of pellets against the wall, it grows larger and the center is lost. Pope Francis is not a politician ruled by polls, what he does is looked and looked at, but we only have the media and people in the church who have their own agendas. the Catholic Church is spread through time, up one time down another, who can tell only God and he cheats he takes the bad and uses it for good,
shoebat

Nick, how would you define “Faith”?
- nick
  
  Faith is believing without seeing what Christ did for us.
  - shoebat
    
    Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
    
    By faith Abel brought God a better offering than Cain did.
    
    By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family.
    
    By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went …
    
    Faith is defined that is not just believing, but obeying by doing. Many think that faith is “believing only” without acting. Noah by faith built an ark, Abraham by faith went … there is an action involved.
    - Tom_mcewen
      
      In the KJB John3:36 they change the meaning of the underlying Greek word from disobey to not believe, one an active act of will to a passive act of will. but it fits better with faith alone.
      - momprayn
        
        Is my Greek Study Bible not totally correct then for the “second” believeth in that verse? It states to disbelieve being willfull and perverse. It is the KJV by Spiros Zodhiates:
        
        “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not, the Son shall not see life…” John 3:36
        
        First believeth:
        
        pisteuo – to have faith (upon or with respect to a person or thing), i.e. credit; by impl. to entrust one’s spiritual well being – believe, commit (to trust), put in trust with
        
        Second believeth:
        
        apeitheo – to disbelieve (willfully and perversely); not believe, disobedient, obey not, unbelieving
      - Tom_mcewen
        
        I will have to dig out my Greek but the greek word which was translated in John 3:16 as believe in is actually obey this same greek word is used 200 times and is alway translate as believe but we now know for the greeks of that period the word would have been understood as obey same for the other word which would and is understood as disobey John 3:36 active to passive I will check tomorrow
      - momprayn
        
        I checked it for John 3:16 and it says it’s the same word as the first believeth (pisteuo) that is in John 3:36
      - Tom_mcewen
        
        Yes, but pisteuo in the 1600 was translated as believe, greek was a mystery, it had been 1500 years, but in the times of John it (pisteuo)would have been understood as obey. which makes sense, John is talking about obedience. Christ never talks passively but is always active, I will try to pull out the study. The catholic bible produced in france before the KJB translates it differently, the scholars did talk to each other, war or no war. They just found a group of Greeks in the mountains of the black sea who speak ancient byzantine Greek.
    - momprayn
      
      Yes, if you truly believe, that will lead to a desire to obey, etc. but also note God credited Abraham with “righteousness” when he believed Him (faith) before he did any works.
      “For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt. But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works.”…..
      “How then was it accounted? While he was circumcised or uncircumcised? Not while circumcised but while uncircumcised…” Romans 4:2-10
      “Now it was not written for his sake alone that it was imputed to him, but also for us. It shall be imputed to us who believe in Him who raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead..” Romans 4:23, 24
      
      And the offer of salvation is freely given by His grace/love for us before and not because of any good works. If then, through sincere faith, we decide to accept that offer under His conditions – to repent, believe Jesus is the Son of God who sacrificed His sinless life for the remission of our sins/ salvation, surrendering our lives to His control – then at that moment we are accounted “righteousness” as Abraham was before he did any “works”, obedience to commands. However, that should lead to the obedience, good works – fruit – as he did and as you said.
      
      I think that is what a lot of the “faith only” crowd means but greatly misunderstood and not explained properly and/or are ignorant of the scriptures. They don’t mean you can disobey all you want and not do any good works, etc. …the ones I know anyway.
      
      “..Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?” Romans 6:1
      “For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under the law, but under grace.” Romans 6:14
      
      As you’ve pointed out with other scriptures before, good works are expected, encouraged, etc. True faith and righteous works go hand in hand. They are two parts of God’s work in us. Faith brings a a person to salvation, and works bring that person to faithfulness. Faith is the cause; works are the effect……as James said “..faith without works is dead” James 2:20
      So obviously if someone calls himself a Christian and isn’t doing any “good works”, obedience, then something is seriously wrong. (For the record – I’m non-Catholic)
- billobillo54
  
  Methinks, Nick said essentially what you said: “Chist says “go and sin no more”…. not keep on doing what youve been doing.”
  - Julie LaBrecque
    
    Verse isolation. We are to do the corporal works of mercy, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham.’
    - billobillo54
      
      Nick’s comment in no way implied that the faithful fail to do good works. What “verse isolation.” You mean like this:
      
      Romans 4:1-8: What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, has found? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.” Now to the one who works, his wage is not credited as a favor, but as what is due. But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness, just as David also speaks of the blessing on the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
      
      “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds have been forgiven,
      And whose sins have been covered.
      “Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will not take into account.”
      
      Or how about this “verse isolation”:
      
      Romans 4:16-25: For this reason it is by faith, in order that it may be in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the descendants, not only to those who are of the Law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, (as it is written, “A father of many nations have I made you”) in the presence of Him whom he believed, even God, who gives life to the dead and calls into being that which does not exist. In hope against hope he believed, so that he might become a father of many nations according to that which had been spoken, “So shall your descendants be.” Without becoming weak in faith he contemplated his own body, now as good as dead since he was about a hundred years old, and the deadness of Sarah’s womb; yet, with respect to the promise of God, he did not waver in unbelief but grew strong in faith, giving glory to God, and being fully assured that what God had promised, He was able also to perform. Therefore it was also credited to him as righteousness. Now not for his sake only was it written that it was credited to him, but for our sake also, to whom it will be credited, as those who believe in Him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead, He who was delivered over because of our transgressions, and was raised because of our justification.
      Paul provides a specific, precise, exact example of how Abraham was “justified” (dikaioo, meaning “being declared righteous”). Regarding Abraham’s justification the Apostle writes: “to the one who DOES NOT WORK but believes;” again: “APART FROM WORKS.” God preached the Gospel of Grace to Abraham and he believed it. “And it was credited to him as righteousness.”
      Verse isolation is a malady that works both ways. I believe that the Catholics are much more apt to do this than Protestants.
      How many times does Paul have to write: “Not by works.” To mix your works with the works of Christ and then claim efficacy is in my mind, a dangerous thing. And, please don’t accuse me or the brother I was responding to of being some sort of Gnostic or some other immoral or uncharitable Christian. WE BELIEVE IN GOOD WORKS AS A “FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT.” You better call Walid in here to help you.
      - Julie LaBrecque
        
        I’m surprised, you didn’t ask me to call Scott Hahn in to help. I need neither Walid or Scott, I have the Bible and the teachings of the Church. I knew you would go to Paul, not one quote from the one who was crucified for us. I don’t know why no one considers what the Savior said, it’s mind-numbing to me. You even omit the totality of Paul’s writings: Romans 2:6-8 ” who will repay everyone according to his works; eternal life to those who seek glory, honor, and immortality through perseverance in good works, but wrath and fury to those who selfishly disobey the truth and obey wickedness.” Galatians 6:9 ‘So then while we have the opportunity, let us do good to all, but especially to those who belong to the family of the faith.” Phill 2:12 “So then, my beloved, obedient as you have always been, not only when I am present but all the more when I am absent, work out your salvation with fear and trembling.” And here comes James, who Luther wanted to throw into the river: James 2:14-24 “What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?…Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate my faith to you from my works…Do you want proof, ignoramus, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham justified by works when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by the works. Thus the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.” Acts 14:22 “It is necessary for us to undergo many hardships to enter the kingdom of God.” In every account of the judgment from Jesus in the gospels, those who did not do the works of mercy are cut off from the vine and thrown into everlasting flames. If the Apostles had believed like Luther, the great commission would not have been carried out, and the Church would not have filled the whole earth. No one can be in heaven naked, the robes are woven from good deeds, Jesus threw out the man that showed up to the wedding feast without one. All the parables about the kingdom are about good works, even purgatory. Those with none are cast out. We believe that good works are fruit of the spirit too, since you attended a Jesuit school, you should know the Church councils on this. The Church has never taught that works of themselves apart from grace are of any merit. I have always believed you to be a charitable Christian and a very good man, and still do, I know many who are not, on both sides of the street.
      - billobillo54
        
        As to Haun…I have learned that you are quite knowledgeable and I respect you even though I ardently disagree with you on a lot. I also cannot help loving you in the Lord.
      - Julie LaBrecque
        
        I love you too, I often times come off brusque, have a lot of my dad in me and have to constantly fight against it, but don’t want to become my mom who allowed herself to be trampled on until it was too late. Balancing act I guess. When I laid in bed that night to pray, I felt bad how I responded to your post to Nick. Hope you forgive me.
      - billobillo54
        
        I’d forgive you if I sensed a wrong. But I didn’t. You are very intense and at least you care enough to say something that you believe is needed. But, the issue of forgiveness illustrates our differences in theology and our perception of the Gospel. Jesus taught the Jews to forgive in order to merit forgiveness. He taught this, in my opinion, due to the fact that He could not teach about the Cross, as they had no understanding in the slightest. In the New Covenant, Paul taught, under the authority of the Risen Christ (i.e. the same Christ but now glorified and resurrected) and with His Cross behind Him and us to forgive “because you have already been forgiven.” So, I am willing to forgive everyone. All I have to do is think of Jesus dying like an animal (Psalm 22: “I am a worm and not a man”), exposed, beaten, flogged, mocked, pierced, crowned with thorns, punched, spit on, derided….I then forgive everyone and do not believe that my act of forgiveness merits anything. All I can do is cling to Him and His Cross as I need forgiveness daily.
      - Tom_mcewen
        
        For these Bible verse quoters, they never seem to quote 2 Peter 3:16 on Paul.
        As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction
        
        It is mind-numbing to me too, that Christ is Always missing, just Paul, Paul, Paul
    - Tom_mcewen
      
      Verse isolation, what was seen as a help, turns into a aid to heresy.
      A do it yourself Bible assembly course, no councils needed, no scholars, no readers of Greek, no Historians, No Bishops, No guidance from the Holy Spirit, No Eucharist, No Saints, No Church spread across space and time, No Miracles,
      
      Just me and my verses and Jesus (did I say Jesus, sorry I meant Paul)
      - Julie LaBrecque
        
        They believe they have an inborn right to interpret what another Body produced. Our beliefs and practices are well testified to in the writings of the Church Fathers before the Bible was even canonized.
Julie

Many of us lay Catholics were strongly against homosexual priesthood.

John Paul II did great work in cleaning up catechesis and false ecclesiology where the movement was to make us congregationists….authority coming from the people rather than from God down through His chosen ecclesiastics.

there was also the movement to let go of ancient disciplines in discerning authentic priestly vocations, replaced by modern psychology.

Psychologist Jung gave a retreat to the Immaculate Heart of Mary sisters in L A to go and developer their inner self, their true being, and he pretty much decimated the congregation with most leaving the Lord’s service….this happening in the late 60;s early 70’s as well as sisters getting into the New Age, one Catholic sister bragging around 1970 at a New Age conference…’you would be surprised how many covens there are in convents across the country’.

It is also alleged and woman, M. Dodd affirmed that over 1000 communists infiltrated Canadian and American seminaries to protestantize them…again congregationalism, riddance of devotions that helped save Europe from Islam, no church, families having their own sacred meal.

Pope Leo XIII had an inner locution after Mass, a dialogue between Christ and Satan, and Christ giving Satan 100 years to destroy the Church. He subsequently consecrated the 20th century to the Sacred Heart of Jesus, this at the end of 1899.

Pope John Paul II gave us a new updated catechism, appointed bishops who were orthodox.

Pope Benedict was removing a bishop a month from the local dioceses.

There is nothing in the catechism to abuse gay people.

I work with a lesbian household and I was nervous at first….one told me she is a Christian and is mentored by a priest.

I live with alot of homosexual people in my area and my neighbor divorced his wife and became a transvestite…my neighbor and I just spoke with him the other morning, I mean her, and treat this person and the lesbians and all gay and regular people with the utmost respect.

We have to remember Christ stands at the door of every heart. If we mistreat a human being for whatever reason, we are mistreating Christ.

So that is the balance Pope Francis is addressing.

And we must start with relating with them as human beings and praying the Lord illuminate Himself with our love for them.

I think the biggest issue is the idolatry of intense daily activity and being glued to the internet….
Julie

I have to say I did resonate tremendously to the name, Francis, but when he came out, I did not experience the immediate connection with him as I did John Paul II…and I already was up reading Cardinal Ratzinger’s documents, so when he was elected, I was also at much peace with him, although he did say first thing his pontiificate would be short..poor health…transitional elections are like that..short term.
billobillo54

Amen Brother. Thank you for the Word of truth.
koolmom21

After reading all the comments on here I am surprised that only one person gets what is going on and that one persons is YOU!
There are going to be a lot of unhappy catholic haters when they find out the catholic church was not destroyed after all. God’s blessings Arvis!
- Arvis
  
  koolmom, I believe you give me too much credit. I surprise myself sometimes. Blessings!
Tom_mcewen

Great. so we will be hearing from Saudi Arabia soon, sounds good.
- Julie LaBrecque
  
  He’s lost, and his up-voters as well.
Rapheal Sebastian

Cardinal Burke was not removed or demoted from office as widely reported. The office of the Apostolic Signatura is normally held to a maximum of 5 years and Cdl Burke served 6+ years. His predecessor, Cdl. Vallini (4 years), was moved to “Great Chancellor of the Pontifical Lateran University”. Vallini’s predecessor, Cdl. Pompedda (4.5 years), turned 75 and had his resignation accepted by St. JP II. No shift to another curial position. Pompedda’s predecessor, Cdl. Grocholewski (1 year), was “shifted” to the all-important post of “Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for Catholic Education”. He’s been there since 1999. Grocholewski’s predecessor, Cdl. Agustoni (just under 4 years), became Prefect Emeritus of the Signatura. Thus Cdl Burke served for longer than the rest. We need to also look at Cdl Pell, who supported the anti-homosexual majority of Cardinals. There is no firing or demotion . In fact he remains one of Pope Francis’ “insiders”.

The media wishes to paint a picture of disenchantment and discord, where there is none. I wouldn’t fall for such reports because they all have their own agendas and most times their agenda is always that of the diabolical.
Julie LaBrecque

The point you made is why the Church teaches that artificial birth control is sin.
Julie LaBrecque

Did not Jesus say that Satan wants to sift Peter like wheat? Did He not say, in regards to his return, ‘will I find faith on earth?”
- Arvis
  
  Yes, Julie. The Church will enter the glory of the kingdom only through this final Passover, when she will follow her Lord in his death and Resurrection.
  - Julie
    
    Yes…only safe place in this world is the Immaculate Heart of Mary and Francis did consecrate the world to her so many months back.
Julie LaBrecque

Could they at least learn what purgatory is before rambling on in darkness? Have not the Jews LIVED purgatory on earth? Anyone want to refute that? Was not their suffering in the Holocaust redemptive? ‘Yes, Israel has it raison-d’etre until the coming of the heavenly kingdom…The Jews, the Jewish people, exist because God has chosen them. They have no other reason for existing, not even national sentiment…The existence of the chosen people concern’s God’s plan for humanity: if Israel exists, it is because God has chosen this people for the purpose of saving all mankind.” Cardinal Aaron Jean-Marie Lustinger, ‘La Promesse’. Should we Christians be nothing less than fulfilled Jews? How can we call ourselves ‘CHRISTians’ and not believe that we are called to suffer as CHRIST did? Lustinger’s epitath, on his crypt in Notre Dame Cathedral: ‘I was born Jewish, I received the name of my paternal grandfather, Aaron, having become Christian by faith and by Baptism, I have remained Jewish, As did the Apostles, I have as my patron saints, Aaron the High Priest, Saint John the Apostle, Holy Mary full of grace, Named the 139th archbishop of Paris, by His Holiness Pope John Paul II, I was enthroned in this Cathedral on 27 February 1981, And here I exercised by entire ministry, Passers-by, pray for me.’
- Tom_mcewen
  
  Why, they happily ramble on a church they call Catholic that looks nothing like Catholic in fact its entire history is different, its teachings are different, but they say it is catholic.strange parallel universes?
Julie LaBrecque

Care to tell us where you think Babylon is?
Julie LaBrecque

Amen!
Julie LaBrecque

Prove your assertion “The catholic church is defending homosexuals and pedophiles on a daily basis”, else your words are slander.
Julie LaBrecque

Forgot that one!
Julie

I read it is very difficult to remove the homosexual network in the Church.

Also people have to remember that John Paul II was so incapacitated by Parkinsons, that Pope Benedict did not want to remain in his post if he began ailing, and as things came to light, he did not have the strength to cope with it.
Julie

It is an injustice let’s say, some one like Adolf HItler, who prior to his death, sees his wrong, and says he is saved, and then goes to heaven…with no growth in the desire to be rid of any inclination of sin.

Yes, it is an injustice people who have sinned and killed many people, find the Lord, and then believe they are saved by calling on Him….it goes against Luke 13….do penance for the remission of sin lest ye likewise perish.’

The kingdom of heaven is the pearl of great price and it is the aims of all us a lifelong conversion to be in Christ.
Julie

What is disconcerting for me is he is removing all of Pope Ratzinger’s considerations in reforming the liturgy after Vatican II abuses…quite telling.

As we believe, we pray. The Mass is the one place on Sunday where we meet as Christians…the feast of Resurrection Sunday where we are renewed and restored and given new life in the power of Christ’s resurrection.

I have read, ‘Spirit of the Liturgy’ by then Cardinal Ratzinger and he brings forth beautiful ideas and suggestions.
Julie

I can be nothing but Catholic. Nothing else. Protestants have only part of the truth and no liturgy…no authority…not binding.

The Word of God at Mass and the Eucharist…cannot find it anywhere outside the Universal Church.

We may go underground….but there are many priests…many of them in my area that are most faithful. Actually, I should add, our archbishop!! who wants to restore the sacred dignity of the liturgy in same line with Pope Benedict.

The Mass guides us to place our attention up to heaven….the Mass IS the first step of heaven on earth…and if there were more instruction and Masses as such, this could touch the homosexual Christian Catholics.
Julie

Our faith cannot just be a belief, but that lived out.

God sees our faith in how we keep the commandments, and how we treat our neighbor…and of course, in loving God above all things…every moment of the day.

Keep you in prayer…you are on the right track…God bless!
Julie

You are looking at a certain faction of men….not the whole Church. The American bishops came home disconcerted.

I remember Cardinal Wuerl stating on his departure that the world was coming over the Church like a tidal wave….and that we needed to renew ourselves and to reform the liturgy….this was not before the Synod on the family, but on an earlier meeting with the pope.
Julie

Agree….as stated, Pope Benedict was removing a bishop a month inspite of his ailing health.
Julie

You are on to something….what I had heard about Burke was that he would go to the media….just look at what the media has done to some of the wording and intention of Francis….
Trevor

If you are truly honest, you would see that those who preach the false prosperity gospel fits the Lukewarm church to a T. To name a couple, Joel Osteen and Joyce Meyer, teaches those prosperity gospel.

What I fear is they will be hit the hardest when the tribulation hits the Church in America and they stand in a daze saying, “But, I thought…” to which Christ in Heaven shakes His head sadly and say, “I stood at the door and knocked, you opened not to receive Me.”
Trevor

Whenever there are one strong voice speaking objection to moral truth, there are always more out there, strategically scattered by God, so when the time comes, they come together and band to strengthen what is weak.

I’m not a Catholic by any means, but I am beginning to find my mind being reshaped to think Orthodoxy. I blame you, Walid, in a good way.
Julie LaBrecque

Mere words, no proof. You said the Catholic Church is defending homosexuals and pedophiles on a daily basis. The Catholic Church has filled the whole earth, so your isolated hospital instance is no proof of your assertion.
koolmom21

I do not believe they left a comment yet when I wrote this. I will look at their comment now.
I do pray the rosary everyday and will keep it up. God’s blessings
Rapheal Sebastian

Thanks Pero, yes I would agree with you on Cdl Pell. I still take any reports coming out of the liberal media with not only a pinch of salt but with tons of skepticism. You have brought up some good points too. Regardless, we are called to be faithful to the teachings of the Church, I will not stand for all this liberal nonsense, and hopefully with the Synod, the voice of the people are heard and the liberals will start to slink under those rocks they come from. Peace be with you, my brother.
Julie LaBrecque

Satan works inside and outside the Church to destroy, he had Luther abolish the ordained priesthood.
- Julie
  
  After he was excommunicated, he went off the deep end and also into nationalism. Calvin could see some of his errors…
  
  But he could never experience the Lord’s love in the Church because of his scrupulosity and needing to have things written down textually, to be assured of his salvation.
  - Julie LaBrecque
    
    He interpreted the scripture so he could soothe his fears: false security. “For whom the Lord loves, He disciplines; he scourges every son He receives. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if we be without chastisement, whereof all are partakes, then are ye bastards, and not sons.” Hebrews 12:6-8. I don’t think the protestants understand the Court of God and His justice.
    - Julie
      
      Yes…so true. Scrupulous.
Tom_mcewen

McEwen from the isle of Skye in the west of Scotland, it is spelled all types of ways
Julie

I know first hand…and had inside info….in my former archdiocese, we prayed so so so much…we could not get direct statements, etc., from John Paul II. Our local diocesan paper just spinned on him. My former provencial thought I was over stressing things, but when he spent a day in a local rectory and went through our ‘Catholic’ newspaper, he was besides himself.

But the bond we had…those who were with the Holy Father, and Blessed Mother, we had a most beautiful fraternity and great consolation from Our Lord.

Still some residue from the feminists in our country….but we keep praying…and endure in charity for all.
billobillo54

Bro: Exactly. Stay faithful to the Gospel of Grace. We are not antinomians. Faith alone saves but it is faith that is not alone.
Tom_mcewen

To Rapheal and Pero, We just had a visiting priest from chicago and he talked about his hopes for an acceptance next year of homosexual marriage, we are loyal catholics here and there was an outcry and a rejection, but they are not giving up. they are in the battle of the inch. In theology I cannot see how you can put a gun to God’s head to make him accept homosexual marriage, but they think they can. They will have their way or break the church into pieces. The Church needs to clean house, we will recover the loss of priests, the new priests are SAS quality. These homosexual priest are loyal to the brief straining of flesh first then christ second, they have to go, The Bishops must decide who they serve.
Tom_mcewen

Did you call out this disgusting behavior as you are called to do or did you keep silent? The A10 a good aircraft
Julie

Which requires changing whatever…penance is a church form, I mean, what we share together, not doing it alone, but there is strength in numbers, that is all.

It all depends on what translation you are using.

Point is, sin is a terrible break with God and we must not be dependent thinking we are saved if we are not developing greater conscience of what sin is and what we are doing to eliminate all desire to sin.

If we have any desire to sin, we still cannot pass over into eternal bliss…so we have to be thoroughly purged by fire as St. Paul had happened to him.

True faith is sober…sobriety something missing in the area of the country I live in…
Julie

My daughter married into an evangelical family, and they already did the thing that we aren’t Christian and worship Mary but refuse to listen to anything we truly believe in. So your respect for your ‘big brothers’ is very appreciated.

I think if American protestants would study Church history, they would find out alot and realize how much more there is to being Christian, and how the Church instructs us with great depth and expanse of all the issues facing our world.

We have Catholic mystics with the same…and the final triumph of the Church is coming where we will have one shepherd, one faith.

People do not realize the communion we experience of the Holy Trinity at Mass, especially Resurrection Sunday, our greatest feast — ordinary Sunday Mass, greater than Easter or Christmas…..every Sunday.

It is not that we don’t accept Evangelicals…we never mention anyone at Mass because our focus is on Christ; we don’t protest as that is against the Holy Spirit…we focus on communion.

And we have the Catechism.
Tom_mcewen

Prague
Tom_mcewen

Good on you. Sensitivity training sounds like the Gulag, Sensitivity training is like the Irish elections for the EU, do it until they get the answer they want. again good on you.
Tom_mcewen

JPII was my priest’s Bishop in Poland, he said he was a hard case
Julie

Wait and see…

I also asked this of the seminarian instructor….

IF we have confusion regarding our popes…..we turn to the catechism?….

He resounded, “YES!”.

Go to Mass, receive the Sacraments, embrace the full Gospel of Our Lord, and keep faithful to the universal Catholic Catechism; there is an entire section devoted to the 10 commandments and morality.
Julie LaBrecque

Why did Paul command penance in 1 Cor 5:3-5?
Julie LaBrecque

Too bad Protestants beat us to it when they followed the way of the world when they caved on the issue of artificial birth control, divorce, and remarriage.
Julie LaBrecque

Trying to keep you mindful of making broad false accusations, which you did, read your allegations.
Marco Vincent

Thanks, this clear up somethings about the inner working of the Roman Curia. Yeah, its more Game of Throne but with scripture and power dispute instead land and claim of kingship.

From what I read , I can deduct that the Roman Curia, and by extension the entire Church hierarchy is now divided into 5 factions:

A) Hardcore Purist : Defenders of the Faith to the core, no buts and no comma.

B) Hardcore Modernist : Same as purist , just with more modern framing and wording. Still hardcore.

( the Hardcore guys are one voice on Israel and that is Pro Israel )

C) Dhimmi Crowd : Very Pro Muslim and Pro Palestine. They also argued to devide Israel AND Jerusalem.

D) Libertarian Antics : Very Pro Gay and Pro Feminism, doesnt like the Dhimmi Crowd much because these guys knew that Islam is anti gay and anti woman’s right but dare not to say it out loud, because of the weird code that liberals should stick together.

E) Liberal Modernist : Not your typical Liberal, their still accept gays IF the gays abandon their lifestyle ( they are still divided between themselves on the “full rites for gays” problem ). They still adhere to the same marriage concept as the hardcore guys. But on divorce , they are more open. On Israel they push the “peaceful meeting” over the more aggressive stance against Palestine.

unFunny fact : many of those child molesting priest belong to the libertarian antics group.

Faithful fact : The hardcore guys are the first ones that voiced their concerns and protests over the Christians Massacres in the middle east.

So what do you think? Do you know which cardinal/ bishop/nun that belong to which faction?

GOD bless you.
Amen.
shoebat

Then I must be mentally incapacitated (which wouldn’t surprise me given my having ADHD, Asperger’s Syndrome, clinical depression, anxiety/paranoia personality disorders and even some learning disabiities), I do see a connection between penance and this bit of Scripture. I could write a whole book on these few verses. We ought to be refined, working out our salvation with fear and trembling through charity and penance. You simply can’t see it with the naked eye. Here, its not exactly the same subject, but let me know what you think, its 10,000 words:

http://shoebat.com/2014/11/13/faith-alone-discovered-protestants-founded-catholic-church/
shoebat

Higlac, I discover new things every day, but I fear that if I share them all that people will not be able to comprehend everything. At times one feels like John The Baptist, in a desert, knowing that the Lord is coming soon, but that people have not made way or made the path straight since they are busy in their daily worries and they fear of going against the tide.
Marco Vincent

Thanks for your reply. And for your link. I know Francis’s political powerplay would have a HUGE blowback, but I too never guess that the Hardcore guys would unite this fast and strike back.

I just hope that the Italian media doesnt interpreted this move by the hardcore guys as the same way the Italian media interpreted the embarrassing “Boffo Case” way back in 2009 that drag some elements of the Church into the web of Italian power struggle involving Silvio Berlusconi ( then Italian PM ) versus his critiques.

This small old article from 2010 below is a must read, if you are interested on “why is Pope Benedict is forced to retired?” question. Whatever you thought of Julian Assange and Wikileaks, at least this leaks show how Pope Benedict and Vatican openly opposed Turkey. And we know how that ends, right?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/10/wikileaks-pope-turkey-eu-muslim

Yeah, based on that article and numerous others that you can find online you can see the frightening correlation that would imply that The Catholic Church is indeed infiltrated by the enemy, not just liberals but real blasphemous Christians that equate The LIVING GOD with Allah/the god of Islam .

Turkey is REALLY dangerous, this article below is from 2011 gives a background look on why Benedict was always against Islam and the dhimmi crowd, even before he was appointed as Pope. This article also mention about Washington’s and Ankara’s political pressure on the Vatican during Pope Benedict days :

http://www.meforum.org/2907/turkey-christians

I’m glad, based on your link and others that I read online, there are strong opposition in the Church against forces that try to undermine/destroy the Faith and the Church.

I hope in the end faith, logic and reason would win the day.

GOD bless you and your family.

Amen.
Julie LaBrecque

Nice copy and paste job. Israel at times had very sinful and unworthy leaders, but you don’t condemn the Israel of the Bible., yet you will in a heartbeat the New Israel.
- Higlac
  
  WHAT???? If you believe that the Catholic Church (or ANY branch or part of Christianity for that matter) is the “New Israel”, I must then warn you that you’re risking going against God Almighty HIMSELF!!!! [Why should the Catholics be favoured above those Orthodox and Protestants who’re genuinely out to serve God??? Surely God Won’t Condemn those who truly love Him!!! And don’t give me that nonsense about extra ecclesiam nulla salus est, please!! Furthermore, in the “Renaissance”, it wasn’t just the pope and prelates who were corrupt: it extended throughout the whole institution – it’s all documented.]
  
  We are told in Romans chapter 11 that we Gentiles as branches from a wild olive tree (Romans 11:17) have been grafted unto the cultivated olive tree of His People. I.e., Our Lord Has NOT Thrown away his Ancient Israel one iota!! In fact, if EVER we take any pride or delight in displacing the Jewish branches, they could be grafted back in to our extreme detriment!!!
  
  He NEVER, EVER, EVER Said that He Would Desert His Ancient People!!!! To the contrary (Romans 9:25), He Had His prophet Hosea have mercy upon his unfaithful wife Gomer and reclaim her to be his wife – something that was against the Mosaic Law (Deuteronomy 24:4) if I err not.
  
  Finally, I was NOT “copying and pasting” ONE IOTA!!! [Especially if without giving credit to where I’ve read this much with Barbara Tuchman, William Manchester and Will + Ariel Durant – there’s no intention for me to plagiarise!!!] All these things are well-documented, so I think you need to apologise for what you said, Ms. LaBrecque.
Pero Ercegovac

Look, I agree with you. The worst thing was the change in the Liturgy of the Mass which was done by a commission that had six protestant theologians in it out of eight. What on earth was John XXIII thinking when he allowed for this to happen?!?!?! I am myself very anti-Vatican II. The fact that we no longer have the Prayer to Archangel Michael is just one of a 1000 warnings. Unfortunately the Church Militant has failed since 1965 in my book.
shoebat

Great points. Wish you could do an article on it for us. I know what you are saying since in my childhood I went to an Anglican school and everywhere the Christians regardless being Catholic or Orthodox, they were poisoned with socialism and revolution. You write this long comment with all this information as might as you finish it up in an article. Many look at the Vatican for example with the homosexual agenda, yet they do not realize the decades of infiltration at hand and err to accuse the agenda on the church.
Dan Knight

That’s how we knew he was doing his job … the creeps were howling and sabotaging at every turn. …
Dan Knight

Thanks Higlac, like reading a history lesson…
Pero Ercegovac

In assisting with your project when putting and accent on a vowel in Croatian you must place it on the first syllable as all words in Croatian are accented upon the first syllable hence the reason we need no accents outside the classic ž đ š ć č dž. Hence it would be góspodine and without a capital G as only the Lord is referred to with a capital G when saying Gospodin, or in the vocative Gospodine… Thought you would be interested.

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