The Pilot Of The Indonesian Plane That Went Missing Was A Devout Muslim Who Slaughtered Christians

By Walid Shoebat (Shoebat Exclusive)

Call me an Islamophobe, but when I research the pilot from the missing flight QZ8501 Captain Iriyanto I access the local news in Indonesian, not in English. There I find out that the pilot of the missing flight QZ8501 and like the pilot on the other missing flight MH370 are both devout Muslims, I get somewhat paranoid. Translating from Indonesian I find the following:

“Iriyanto was also active in the community as a board member and chairman of the mosque at his residence in Pondok Jati Block BC 12 Village Pagerwojo, Buduran, Sidoarjo.”

“In addition to serving as Chairman of RT 39, Iriyanto also served as a board leader of Masjid Nurul Yaqin, which is located in the housing complex.”

“He was also diligent in worship. When everyone was at home, he would certainly be seen praying in congregation in the mosque”.


From Indonesian sources I also find out that “Before Iriyanto applied for early retirement and became a commercial airline pilot he had been a pilot in the Air Force who served in the squadron Iswahyudi Airport, Madiun, East Java flying fighter Hawk MK 50 and F-5.”


Iriyanato “performed operational tasks from 1983 up until 1992”. It was such fighter jets from Indonesia that were used over East Timor and were operational till September of 1999 killing some 200,000 mostly Christian Timorese out of a total population of 600,000 which has been winked at by western powers and today western media said nothing about this pilot’s involvements?

Zaharie Ahmad Shah the captain of the other missing flight MH370 had his co-pilot also another Muslim Faruq Abdul Hamid, 27. Now I become triply somewhat paranoid.

Being just paranoid and pilots just being very devout Muslims is not 100% conclusive evidence, but when one adds the scenarios of past history it changes things. When the first plane hit the first tower on 9-11 the TV said “it was a terrible accident” and in march Flight MH370 vanished and they also said that this was a “terrible accident”, yet when the second plane hit the other tower the TV instantly said that, “it was definitely a terrorist attack” and now that when flight QZ8501 also vanished should not our paranoia and phobia levels be a bit up to think that “Muslim terrorists” are playing their favorite deadly pranks again?

If the United States acknowledged that civilian jets can be and were used as missiles, so for me to propose that these two jet planes were hijacked for a future “missiles hitting buidings” operation shouldn’t lightly be dismissed just because I am an Islamophobe.

While no one at this time can provide conclusive evidence to support such a theory, but history shows it is not far-fetched, being paranoid at times is better than being skeptic. Flight QZ8501, while the media focused on the differences with MH370, the similar patterns gives even more reasons for concern, especially when we factor the law of probabilities; Firstly there was sabotage on both flights. Secondly, both flights veered dramatically from the flight course.


A former Boeing 777 pilot has claimed missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 could have only veered off course due to sabotage.

“Is it a coincidence that this track managed to avoid Indonesian, Thai and then Indian military radar?” the Boeing 777 pilot said.

He also stipulates for air traffic control to lose secondary radar contact with MH370 someone would have had to interfere with the systems.

“The B777 has 80 computers and, except for two engines, nearly every system on board is triplicated to ensure a practically fail safe operation, for example three radios, three radar transponders (linked to Air Traffic Control), three autopilots, three flight management computers and a failure of one will result in transfer, usually automatically, to another. This means for ATC to lose secondary radar contact with MH370 someone had to deactivate all three by manually selecting them to go off,” he explained.

He also dispelled any electrical failure and “An explosion by the two passengers shows no debris” or “a mid air crash”.

The Malaysian prime minister said they now believe “deliberate action” was taken to alter the direction of the aircraft. Malaysian prime minister Najib Razak said authorities now believe the plane’s communications systems were deliberately disabled. He said: “Based on new satellite communication we can say with a high degree of certainty that the aircraft communication addressing system was disabled just before the aircraft reached the east coast of Malaysia.”

In both flights there still should have been a distress call, yet neither flight gave any.


Air traffic controllers in Subang, outside Kuala Lumpur, did not receive a distress signal from flight MH370. Neither the pilot nor his co-pilot made any attempt to indicate there was a problem.
The jet could be tracked one second, and was gone the next. A leading aviation safety expert said he found it “extraordinary” that there is no record of a distress call.

The plane would have been cruising at about 35,000 feet when it lost contact, giving the pilots “plenty of time” to report any technical problems, Flight Global’s operations and safety editor David Learmount said.

“Something happened and the pilots did not tell anyone. Why? It’s a good question,” he said.

“It’s extraordinary the pilots failed to call because they had plenty of time to. Unless there was a bomb on board but there has been no evidence of that.”

Police also searched the home of Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, confirming that they found, dismantled and removed a flight simulator from the property.

Malaysian authorities have revealed that the jet climbed from the Boeing 777’s approved cruising altitude of 35,000 ft to a height of 45,000 ft.

Radar signals showed the plane then descended to 23,000 ft before climbing again and flying towards the Indian Ocean.

Officials say only someone with “significant flying experience” could have done this, but why would they unless it is a plot to evade radar coverage?


Now we have one of the biggest aviation mysteries of all time, MH370 disappeared, the plane’s identifying transponders appeared to be intentionally shut off, its pilots stopped making radio transmissions and the airliner made a mysterious turn before possibly traveling for hours until all traces vanished.While the media speaks of the differences between both flights, so far we have even more serious similarities. The chances of both flights from the same area, both flights had Muslim pilots, both flights have a high possibility of turning off transponders, both flights veering off course and both flights had no trace and both flights making no distress signals makes the probabilities of an accident less likely and the probabilities of foul play likely. For unknown reasons to this day, this particular Boeing 777 veered off its original flight path and did not send any distress signal, similar to flight QZ8501.

Uncertainly over the fate of MH370 was further compounded by reports that two men whose names matched those on the passenger manifest had reported their passports stolen. An Austrian and an Italian passport, separate incidents yet the “Two people who boarded Flight 370 using stolen passports appear to have bought their tickets together, records show” as confirmed by Interpol.

The Italian who was believed to have been on board, 37-year-old Luigi Maraldi has since been pictured alive and well in Thailand and the Austrian, 30-year-old Christian Kozel has also been confirmed as alive and well and back home in Austria. So where are any photos of the two who registered on flight MH370? The pressure cooker bombers had their photos published by the FBI and so far no one is showing a single photo of two individuals who entered flight MH370 using false passports? Someone connected these two passports stolen from two different occasions registering together is highly suspicious and adds to our probabilities.

And if the plane is in deep sea, why is it that at least one relative of a Chinese passenger on board the missing flight has successfully been able to ring his mobile phone – but nobody answers?

It has emerged that phones taken on board flight MH370 are still ringing FOUR DAYS after the plane’s disappearance.

But it is not only one Chinese who got a ring-tone, reports suggest as many as 19 families have managed to call phones of their missing loved ones. But its not only 19 Chinese who were able to get a ring tone, even the airline itself has got through to some of the missing crew’s handsets.

According to Chinese media, the 19 families have signed a joint statement confirming they made calls which connected to the missing passengers but without an answer.

In addition a Malaysia Airlines official confirmed that they too had tried to get in touch with cell phones of missing crew members, but again without a response.
The sister of Chinese man among the 239 people feared dead on flight MH370 even rang his phone live on TV.


Some argue that unanswered mobile phones suggesting that flight MH370 might have been hijacked by terrorists and forced to land as “absurd” since the pilots never made any announcements. But can anyone rule out 100% the possibility that pilots could have cooperated with a hijack operation or that terrorists jumped in when the cockpit was open for bathroom relief and took over the cockpit? No.

Some would argue that if such planes were intended to be used as missiles, why didn’t the supposed terrorists have done so immediately? But such an operation on a day of a missing jet would have every city on the lookout since 9/11 has proven the necessity to bring down such planes by sending fighter jets. If terrorists intend to repeat 9/11, they would have to be more stealth and carry out their mission when no one is focused on these missing jets.

Both flights had a Muslim pilot and both from the same Muslim country of Indonesia. If QZ8501 is also not found quickly then we have a major problem and while some expound on differences, yet others do focus on similarities. Is it impossible that the pilots are in on the gig?

Has anyone resolved the two-minute phone call to Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah shortly before take-off may shed light onto the lingering mystery surrounding the disappearance of the Malaysian Airlines plane?

One of the last phone calls made to or from Zaharie’s phone before flight MH370 left Kuala Lumpur 16 days ago was from a mobile number obtained under a false identity as reported by The Daily Mail

Investigators are taking the new discovery seriously because when registering a pay-as-you-go SIM card in Malaysia, a passport number or identity must be given.

The fact that the particular number had been bought “very recently” under a woman’s name using a false identity has raised serious suspicions among investigators.

The revelation raises questions of possible ties between Captain Zaharie, 53, and terror groups who routinely use untraceable SIM cards.

Authorities have highlighted the fact that registered number under a non-existent ID does not necessarily point to a criminal or terrorist connection.

It was revealed that the veteran pilot was an passionate supporter of opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim, who was also a distant relative.

However, when an imam Ahmad Sarafi Ali Asrah, the head of the mosque in Mr Hamid’s neighbourhood in Kuala Lumpur said he knew the co-pilot well stressed the 27-year-old was a “good boy, a good Muslim, humble and quiet” it even concerns me more since I have been at the forefront in showing the reverse is true, that when Muslim leaders and imams talk they are simply telling a fib. I finally even wrote a book showing hundreds of Muslims practicing the habit saying the reverse of the truth and is why I wrote The Case For Islamophobia.

So what are the probabilities to have two flights from the same area which had Muslim pilots which both communications were sabotaged which both veered off course which both lost radar tracking which both cannot be found yet both are simply “accidents”? Anyone who would doubt must first ask; was 911 an accident?

Based on the size of the plane, there are 634 places where the aircraft could have landed.
They spread as far north as Pakistan, and as far south as the west coast of Australia and Japan.

Perhaps they should be searching these locations instead of the sea.

Update: We stated last night that “If QZ8501 is also not found quickly then we have a major problem” but as we see now signs of wreckage and bodies were found. We don’t have the full details yet, but again, this still does not answer the issues we brought up so we must wait and pray that our theory of a hijack is false. Finding QZ8501 does not answer the dilemma since in 911 there was also a flight that crashed in Pennsylvania due to a scuffle with terrorists. What happened on board QZ8501 remains unknown at the moment.

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  • FF

    Since the disappearing, I stayed tuned here because, well, you know, I’m paranoid…
    When I heard the news I stayed in silence (keeping my suspicions to myself) because I know that everyone sees me as paranoid, living in the plot of an islamic conspiracy… It turned out to be true.
    Is this a case for islamophobia?
    I guess that as it rigth. Thank you.

    • Julie LaBrecque

      This appears to be another crime committed by the MMM brigade: Muslim Mass Murderers. When the news first broke, I too, thought, another flight just ‘disappeared’? No way.

      • jncalandada

        wtf.the victims were 95% can you said that?

        • Behnam

          They want the planes. Maybe they told the passengers to fight with them or die.

        • Julie LaBrecque

          Collateral damage.

  • susan

    Thank you Walid. I am curious ( islamophobic) regarding a lot of things. I’m not too sure I trust some of our FBI. I’m very curious Paranoid about these two photographs of the fliers using stolen passports. I can’t help but wonder if there might be a clue there. So which country hates us enough and has the means for a touch up paint job? Great information. I hope it can be found and stopped. Thanks Walid!

    • shoebat

      Well, it seems they found it. I stated “If QZ8501 is also not found quickly then we have a major problem” but as we see now it was most likely found. We don’t have the full details yet, but again, this does not answer a ton of questions so we must wait. Also, in 911 there was a flight that crashed in Pennsylvania. Was there a struggle on that flight? QZ8501 did have a French co-pilot. But we still do not have answers as to the crucial questions, on both flights no distress signal, no radar, everything went off. Something is still fishy.

      • Behnam

        Haha you beat me to it =P

      • susan

        Still fishy indeed. Been out with relatives the past several days and the only news I’ve had is football, football and more football. Thank you for the update.

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  • David Harding

    Just an interesting aside…. a pilot I know told me that to avoid radar detection is very simple. You just fly at a safe distance under the in coming plane whose own radar is always “looking forward, and never downward”……… a nuclear payload could be brought home to any large city in the world, and air traffic controllers could never detect until too late (by sight).

  • Trevor

    I have regularly been accused of being paranoid and suspicious. Well, I’m sorry, blame it on the 9/11 hijackers and the apologists who rush to defend the Muslims for not dispelling those paranoia.

    I think those “disappearance” are nothing more than dry runs. You have to bet that all the terrorist cells were tracking the news, studying, adapting, and I expect to hear more similar stories repeat until catastrophe takes place. The terrorists will continue to adapt until they perfect the techniques, and boom, you got a squadron of flying missiles that can evade radar detection until it’s far too late to scramble fighter jets. I think that we need to have around-the-clock CAP (Combat Air Patrol) armed with sidewinder missiles and radar-guided missiles to take out airliners before they are turned into missiles!

  • Marcos Filipe Guerra

    Yes. Another homerun, by Walid. Right after the plane went missing, I told some people I know that the plane was hijacked. Because 2 people used passports that were stolen a couple of years before the ticket was bought, and that the pilot was involved because they shut down comms and the ID of the plane, wich could only be done purposefuly. “What if the plane crashed?” Well, that’s unlikely. In all of boeing 777 history there is only 1 accident, and it wasn’t mechanical, so to speak. Through the route right before they missed the plane, we could say that they were heading to northwest of Indonesia, and that’s what the map shown points out to be 3 possible landing points. I told them also that the plane would be used in another terror attack, probably in China, Australia or, of course, the USA, the favourit target of terrorists. My thought is that it will be in Australia, mainly because of the last attack in a coffee shop. Gruesome thoughts went through my mind right now. New year party in Sidney, maybe? Nobody would expect that, it’s too cruel right? I hope I’m WRONG, by the way. God bless

    • shoebat

      Well Marcos as I told Suzan, it seems they found it. I stated “If QZ8501 is also not found quickly then we have a major problem” but as we see now it was most likely found. We don’t have the full details yet, but again, this does not answer a ton of questions so we must wait. Also, in 911 there was a flight that crashed in Pennsylvania due to a fight by passengers. What happened on board QZ8501 remains unknown at the moment. Was there a struggle on that flight? QZ8501 did have a French co-pilot. But we still do not have answers as to the crucial questions, on both flights no distress signal, no radar, everything went off. Something is still fishy.

      • Marcos Filipe Guerra

        Oh, sorry. I wasn’t specific. I’ll edit it. I was talking about the MH370 flight. I saw some of the news about the QZ8501, and it really seems they found it. However, it’s really not clear what happened with the QZ8501. I haven’t really researched about the QZ8501 yet. It’s awkward that both have so many similarities, maybe the QZ8501 was a frustrated attempt? Anyway, in this case I would rather wait for more information about the plane itself and maybe the questions you raised are clarified soon enough. I agree, something is still fishy.

  • jncalandada

    of course hes a muslim because they came from muslim countries.

  • jncalandada

    how about the pilot of the fighter jets who bomb thousands of muslims in iraq,afghanistan,pakistan,syria,libya?are they muslim too?

  • jncalandada

    in order to protect the credibility of the airasia airline.they blame the muslims.

  • shoebat


    Usually when we look at comments we search for stuff like “why spread such hate” and we file them under looney bin. “The Indonesian Air Force also took part in the 1975 Indonesian invasion of East Timor.”(see even Wikipedia) and the links were provided to you to show what the evil Indonesian Air Force did which you highly speak of in killing Christians. That plus your photo looks like the typical Methodists and Presbyterian liberals. You all have a certain look in which the men look like a female hag. You don’t like it drink the sea in Gaza.

    • ChiRho

      Come on Walid, NO H8! (Im being sarcastic as usual)

      Seriously though, I pretty much thought the same as you with regard to the strange dissappearance of the plane/s. One thing of note that I heard was the, first still missing, plane model is so huge that it could not land and take off again from any old makeshift runway. That supposedly these types have to use only high quality engineered modern runways with several feet thick of pavement designed specifically for the weight of these beasts. So if they are being used for what we suspect, they would likely have to have a government on board with the plan as an improvised jungle runway in a small rebel held territory wouldn’t work. I wonder if the Malaysian, Indonesian, or Pakistani governments are in on it.

    • Pero Ercegovac

      Walid, you are heading into waters of international relations here. There is a strong segment within the Australian security/defence community who have for a long time attempted to attain and then maintain alignment with Indonesia especially from 1986 onwards. The theory is that if it was not for such good relations Australia would have not secured Timorese independence in 1999 at the diplomatic table. These people do tend to be liberal toward Islam as it comes with the territory. When it comes to trade and the economy a strong China is a greater threat to Australia and hence these people see Indonesia as their natural ally as the 200 most wealthy Indonesian families are Chinese in origin. Hence, there is a natural antagonism within Indonesia between the indigenous population who are majority Muslim and the Chinese economic elite which unfortunately for the Chinese leads to them being made as the scape goat. You should have seen these people jump into the media space after the Bali bombings with the sole aim of playing down the tensions between Islam and the West rather than condemning exclusively these attacks. On this issue of who to support Australia is divided due to national security. However most people supported Timorese independence on both sides of the party political spectrum. In the end you are right, as our learned Indonesian friend and commentator Marco Vincent pointed out, throughout the campaign that lasted 24 years the Indonesian Defence Forces used airpower against not only Fretelin but the Timorese people as well.

    • Proudvet56

      Way to let him have it Walid! Just another phony holier than thou leftist. Way to hit back. LOL!!! Keep up the good work.

  • Behnam

    It makes sense since there were no distress signals from the pilots. perhaps in this recent event the passengers fought back and that is why they found the plane in the ocean and the people without life jackets. It happend during 9/11

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  • Rod Vick

    Idiocy. First, most of the passengers were Muslims. Second, if it had been his intention to plunge a planeload of people into the sea, he would not need bad weather as an excuse. (Recall that he asked to alter the flight path to avoid a serious storm.) He could have plunged it into the sea on a sunny day.

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  • Marco Vincent

    I’m glad mention this. Its all over the news here in Indonesia. Mr. Walid ,thanks.

    Also now its official that our Indonesian navy found the wreckage of Air Asia QZ8501.

    The sad thing is that while they ( the media and the military ) told us that Captain Iryanto was an excellent figther pilot, they “conveniently forget” to told us Indonesians about his role in the East Timor war/invasion.

    Also there was a new witness ( a local fisherman ) that told he hear the sound ofa loud explosion during the hours that the plane disappear from the radar.

    This is very disturbing as the current official explanation is that the plane ran into a Cumulonimbus cloud and their engines failed. BUT the timing of the LOUD EXPLOSION was exactly the SAME as the time that the plane disappear from the radar, which can mean only one thing, the plane exploded mid air close to the clouds, which explain the fog that he saw after the sound loud explosion. A huge metal wreck that dive into the ocean would only create “low temporary” fog , not the type that Rahmat, the fisherman described to the media ( a thick fog that covers the ocean ).
    This was the same story as the Malaysian MH370 as there were stories of fisherman hearing loud explosion, but those news stories was ignored and suppressed by the media.

    The Indonesian news channel and all the news papers here focus on the victims and not on the cause, the terrorist theory wasnt even mentioned.

    BTW this incident suspiciously happens after this ISIS guy ( Abu Jandal Al Indonesi ) challenge the Indonesian government just a few days ago :

    Mr. Walid can you dig something about this guy?

    Yep, the s*&t is real and its coming this way to Indonesia.

    Please pray for us.

    • Trevor

      I’ll pray for you and your brethren. It sounds like persecution is coming your way.

  • Marco Vincent

    Despite the political background of the East Timor invasion, its still a fact that East Timor IS CATHOLIC and the way that Indonesian propaganda tried to hide it from the majority of its people was by telling them that Fretelin is Communist.

    Gua orang Indo juga ,bro. Gua juga ngalamin masa-masa Orde Baru. Dan jika kamu memang Cungkok-ren ( Orang Cina ) ,kamu pasti tau Kerusuhan Jakarta 1998, dimana semua pencurian pembunuhan dan pemerkosaan dilakukan orang muslim ( militer dan sipil ) sambil berteriak “allahuakbar”.

    Kamu pasti tau kita kalau mau bangun gereja di Jawa dan propinsi yang banyak muslimnya dipersulit ijinnya.

    Kamu juga pasti tau tiap Lebaran/ Idul Fitri pengusaha Kristen mesti setor upeti ke berbagai ormas Islam.

    Banyak orang muslim yang memang baik hatinya dan ignorant terhadap ayat2 Al-Quran yang cenderung anti-Kristen dan anti- Yahudi, tapi kebaikan hati mereka tertutupi oleh keharusan untuk mengikuti Islam secara menyeluruh. And thats the saddest part.

    The Translation :

    I’m also an Indonesian, bro. I also experienced the dark days of the New Order ( Suharto’s Regime). And if you’re really are a Cungkok-ren ( a Chinese ) than you would remember the Jakarta riot of 1998 where all the looting,murder and rape were done by muslims ( military and civilians ) while screaming “allahuakbar”.

    You do know that when we want to build a church in Java or any other province with muslim majority , the permit will be complicated.

    You must alo know that every Lebaran/ Eid al-fitr every Christian business owner must pay “tribute” to various Islamic civil society/organisation.

    There are many muslims that are good at heart and are “ignorant” to the quranic verses that are anti-Christian and anti-Semite, but their goodness is covered by the compulsion to follow Islam the whole way. And that’s the saddest part.

  • Marco Vincent

    I’m Indonesian and I can tell you that the East Timor campaign was a full frontal invasion using a standard American battlefield strategy that the Indonesian military follow it to the core, which include air superiority….which use planes.

  • shoebat


    Does a hypocrite know he is a hypocrite? No. Until he confesses that is. You are a typical hypocrite. You initially lie stating: “no fighter jets were ever used against Timorese” and now you say “Certainly planes were used in the 1975 invasion, as was a parachute battalion”

    Which is it? At first you eradicate the truth and you state that I am teaching “hate” which if untrue is truly teaching hate by you. For if one accuses his brother of hate and it is untrue, he had already preached hate against his brother.

    And now you say “but as the pilot was not born at the time it is unlikely he was involved.”

    Also untrue since as I stated: “Iriyanato “performed operational tasks from 1983 up until 1992″. It was such fighter jets from Indonesia that were used over East Timor and were operational till September of 1999 killing some 200,000 mostly Christian Timorese out of a total population of 600,000 which has been winked at by western powers and today western media said nothing about this pilot’s involvements?”

    And as I stated before, the links are provided.

    As far as you “loving meat”, I quoted you from your own article. Mr. fitness.

    Its best that instead of you commenting or responding or trying to wiggle your hatred towards us, that you simply shut up and drink the sea in Gaza, hypocrite.

  • Marridge

    ABC news mentioned naked bodies. That would indicate to me an inflight explosion perhaps.

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  • richinnameonly

    When MH370 went down, there were too many strange circumstances and my thought was that it’s probably in Pakistan for future use in an attack. Looks like this latest one may have really gone down because of a weather related incident. But I’ve wondered about large numbers of Muslims in command of things they will use as weapons in the U.S. and other places. Pilots, armed services, police, truck drivers, ship crews, etc. We’ve already seen it with cars, trucks, planes and in the military. Ah, I must be an Islamophobe.

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  • shoebat

    Ok Indonesians are nice, their military is nice, they never killed any Christians in East Timor, devout Muslims are nice and Indonesia is an excellent example of the moderate Muslim country and you are also nice. How does that sound? Is this now a message of “love”? You approve? And lets just throw in for extra love that their was never an Armenian genocide, these Armenians starved due to famine as the Turks claimed. How did I do now?

    • Leonard

      Try to watch in youtube about the prophesy of TB Joshua. ISIS trained those prospect candidate in Iraq to inflict terror around the world and one of their terror agenda are planes around the world. This people are just ordinary workers who went for a holiday trip abroad but rather trained by ISIS in iraq. Just watch the prophesy.

  • Marco Vincent

    If you refer to the 2nd video. The brief is he challenge the Indonesian government ( the military and the police ) and one of the Indonesian Islamic civil society that oppose ISIS ( Barisan Ansor Serbaguna Nahdlatul Ulama ) to come to Syria and Iraq to make war with ISIS. If not then ISIS would come to Indonesia and slaughter all those that oppose the Khilafah ( or Caliphate ).
    Yep , its that grim..

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  • shoebat

    “My Wife was on Timor,”

    So what. I lived in Israel and being a Palestinian having lived there I have 99% of Palestinians go against me when I speak against terrorism, does that mean because someone lived there they know better? What a bunch of baloney. Was told to or whatever, Nazis who killed Jews regardless if they were “told to do it” are guilty. Get a life and stop holocaust denial.

    • Paul Kiler

      What a rude person you are. My wife is a doctor for the UN, not a village girl. You have no clue what went on on Timor.

      • shoebat

        “My wife is a doctor for the UN”

        That even makes things worse. The United Nothing is still the United Nothing. You kill Christians you are involved in holocaust. You can call me rude all you want, drink the sea. You are a holocaust denier.

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  • shoebat

    “don’t get to impune the honr and integrity of my wife, a UN Doctor, 2nd in charge of 1/4 of the Indonesian Country for UNICEF, daughter og the Jakarta District Attorney, Daughter of a Jakrta District Judge. ”

    “This is a power woman whose father is buried in the Indonesian Heroes Cemetary, because He never took a bribe in his life. My wife Is a woman of great integrity and insight, whom you have dishonored here tonight.”

    So your wife is Indonesian. This says everything I need to know. But still I don’t give a rip. I can show you a ton of documentaries on East Timor where Christians are massacred. You need to refute them not me. Its obvious your like the American who married a Turk and the Turk denies Armenian genocide in general from the top to the bottom of society. Genocide is genocide, I am no respecter of persons.

  • Marco Vincent

    Against ISIS. And he’s hoping the Indonesian government would accept the challenge. Or if not than ISIS will come to Indonesia and make war.
    Also over here ISIS has literally THOUSANDS of supporters and it grows everyday. This kind of knowledge doesnt show up in the news ( local and international ), but all you need to see the various Indonesian social media and you shall realize the truth that I told you in my comments.

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  • susan

    Paul, the Gentleman clearly said “Genocide is genocide, I am no respecter of persons.”
    Usually important people don’t need to keep pointing out their importance.
    You’re beginning to sound a little desperate….

  • shoebat

    How much respect did you show for the genocide speaks for itself. As I said, I am no respecter of persons. In other words, you telling us how important is your wife is meaningless to anything regarding the fact that Indonesia committed a holocaust in East Timor. You are beginning to be rather annoying.

  • shoebat

    “He calls me a Holocaust denier.”

    No. I call you an idiot who married an Indonesian nurse who tells you whatever she wants about how nice Indonesians are and how there was no holocaust.

    “He accuses me of killing Christians.”

    Proof please? Where did I say you “killed Christians”?

    “He tells me I am a Holocaust perpetrator.”

    Again, proof please? I simply said that you are a holocaust denier.

    “He insults my wife.”

    No. I said that I do not give a rip who your wife is, it still does not change the fact that Indonesia committed a holocaust which you denied.

    “He makes spurious charges against me and my wife with no foundation. He does not know me, he assumes what he wants to assume of me, and of my wife.”

    The thread is in writing of what I said and what you said.

    “He’s simply a crackpot not worthy of anyone’s attention now or into the future.”

    Who is insulting who now? And if I was a “crackpot” why don’t you simply disappear? Why are you here to insist that no genocide was committed by Indonesia?

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