VIDEO: Woman Gets Beheaded In The Middle Of Street Right In Public View

By Walid Shoebat

“I did not commit the murder. I did not commit the murder” cries out the woman as she was dragged off to the street to get beheaded. “I will not forgive you. I will not forgive you” she adds telling her executioners that she will not forgive them for what they were about to do to her. She insists crying out “This is injustice. This is injustice”.

The scene shows what the Saudi authorities have carried out Tuesday morning, the seventh death sentence since the beginning of 2015, this time it was a lady from Burma (Myanmar) who as the report claims was “accused of killing her seven year old step daughter using a broom stick in her vagina and anus”.  Is it possible that the young girl was molested by a family member and died to only frame this foreigner? We will never find out, but the Saudi justice system has been known for its abuses against foreigners in order to cover up for the Saudi pedigree.

 

The gruesome footage shows Saudi authorities publicly beheading the woman in the holy city of Mecca earlier this week. The execution is the tenth to be carried out in country in the last two weeks; setting 2015 up to be even more bloody than last year, when 87 people were punitively killed by the state.

The video shows the woman, a Burmese resident named as Lalia Bint Abdul Muttablib Basim, screaming while being dragged along the street. Four police officers then hold the woman down before a sword-wielding man slices her head then taking three blows to complete the act. The exceutioner is then found doing his usual habit in every execution: busy wiping his sword to prevent the rusting process of the blade.

Then the ambulance comes with a loud speaker that shouts out “this is the interior ministry” continuing verses from the Quran: “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement, Except those who repent before you have them in your power; so know that Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.”

In the chilling recording, Basim, who was found guilty in a Saudi Sharia court of sexually abusing and murdering her seven-year-old step-daughter and is heard protesting her innocence until the very end.

Saudi Arabia bases its legal system on Sharia and when it comes to the death penalty it can be given for armed robbery, drug-related offences, sorcery, adultery, murder, rape and apostasy from Islam.

Beheading is widely seen in the country as the most humane means of executing but death by stoning, crucifixion, and death by firing squad is also carried out in the holiest city in Islam.

Basim’s execution comes as the Saudi authorities are already under the spotlight for the public flogging of Raif Badawi, a blogger and political activist who was sentenced to 10 years in prison and a total of 1,000 lashings for insulting religious authorities.

Saudi Arabia carried out last year, nearly 87 executions, up from nine cases in 2013. Several  international human rights organizations demanded that Saudi Arabia stop the implementation of those provisions and replace them with other forms of punishment.

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  • Perry

    Reminds me of what the Nazi’s did to the Jews in the early years. Even the Nazi’s couldn’t stomach doing it in such a personal way, so they started gassing them in groups. Really horrible. What a filthy religion.

    • Kc Schmidt

      Its not that the Nazis couldn’t stomach it. They wanted a way to do mass genocide.. You can kill 6.7 million Jews with bullets and be headings but that would have been very costly and time sensitive… So they come out with the death camps where they could gas thousands at a time then take them to the ovens….

  • RodK1975

    Barbarians

    • Higlac

      Even the worst possible barbarians are better than those Moslem Untermenschen and ANTICHRISTS!!!

      • RodK1975

        Haha! Touche, my good man!

  • RodK1975

    You and me too.

  • j7h

    I agree, Stephen. Especially since we have plenty of our own oil. It’s simply ridiculous.

    • Higlac

      We in the Americas could get along without any Islamic oil quite comfortably. It’s Europe that will then be in trouble: then, until they summon up the gumption to physically go to those infidel lands and colonise them, exterminating the native Moslem-populations the way the Romans did with the Carthaginians and other subject peoples (and as the Moslems are trying to do to us!!!), let THEM (Europeans) be responsible for their own troubles and learn how to negotiate with the Russians.

      • Grandmere

        Right on, my man.

  • j7h

    Oh they’re humans alright. This is just what goes to show what the Bible talks about, that in last days the wicked will get more wicked and continue doing so until the measure of their wickedness comes to its ultimate capacity. Then God will pour out His wrath. These people need to be fully opposed and exposed, but at the same time, we should pray that God shows them the error of their ways and that they will be saved – because God desires that no man should perish.

  • susan

    Spiritual..then Physical…

    That’s why once they’ve chosen evil rule for their spirit…you have to physically kill them.

  • 1Bobby8

    No way was that woman guilty, she wouldn’t be pleading for her life the way she did. She was nothing but a scapegoat for one of those filthy bastards.

    • Higlac

      No surprise here: Moslems are supposed to be above EVERYBODY ELSE and EVERYTHING ELSE merely because their IDOL-“Prophet” said as much!!!!

      Moslems are not taught to accept responsibility or blame – everything wrong they do has to be cast upon some unfortunate “infidel” who must so serve as a scapegoat!!!

      Yes, we should not buy ONE CENT’S WORTH of ANY GOODS or services from ANY Moslem countries!!! These wretches are absolute Untermenschen who don’t deserve one iota of our compassion or respect as long as they continue serving Mohammed – whose “allah” was merely his sock-puppet… No oil, no coconuts, no dates, absolutely NOTHING WHATSOEVER!!!! Also, NO commerce, communication, cultural, diplomatic, transportation or other links are needed with the Islamic world…

      • j7h

        I agree to that. They would certainly think differently if their source for survival dried up.

        • Higlac

          To some extent they might do so; however, given their fatalism, their disdain of work (the jizya is meant in part to spare them from working so they live off the “infidels'” money!!) plus their absolute HATRED for anything and anybody “un-Islamic”, they just as likely would continue waging their jihad.

          These bigots will NEVER stop unless they’re completely ISOLATED from the rest of the world and all the traditional Malthusian control mechanisms are used to keep them in check, cutting them down until they exterminate themselves.

          • Grandmere

            You are so right. They bring in all of the foreign workers because they are lazy and the government cuts them a big check from oil revenues to prop up the Saud dynasty. Those poor workers are little better off than outright slaves.

          • Higlac

            Well said – and while we’re at it, Islam DOES explicitly believe in slavery. For example, Mauritania still has slavery as being perfectly legal; while Saudi Arabia has it in all but name when it comes to those poor foreign-workers from the Philippines, Pakistan, Bangladesh, &c.

            In fact, the Saudis disdain other Moslems, especially depending upon their skin colour and upon the distance those others actually are from Arabia. Then, if you’re an “infidel”, Heaven Help you when in that country!!!

      • 1Bobby8

        I agree 100%

      • Grandmere

        You cracked me up with that sock-puppet!

        • Higlac

          Thanks, “Grandmère” – alas, the way that one can’t distinguish between what are the words of “allah” and those of Mohammed really speaks against Islam.

          No less: why is it more forgiveable to blaspheme their Satanic “god” than Mohammed?? [Not to mention that their “allah” surely is the most IMPOTENT and FEEBLEST “god” devised anywhere in the world – in addition to the “principle of abrogation”…]

          • Grandmere

            Abrogation. If only more people knew about that. When you think about it, it’s an ingenious set up for their cult.

          • Josh Carter

            they are all bullshit all religions and all gods are constructs of people.

          • Grandmere

            Imagine! Even though you don’t believe in God, he created you in his own image. Think about that and how your life would be different if you opened yourself up to that idea. Would you take a few steps toward that idea?

      • Grandmere

        How long would they last if all imports were cut off? You can’t eat sand or drink oil.

  • Behnam

    And The Lord builds up more anger…

    • Josh Carter

      the lord is imaginary just like allah

      • Grandmere

        Josh, stop! You are on the razor edge of the abyss. Once you cross the line you will be beyond any hope.

  • Behnam

    All lies are the devil’s masterpiece. Only Christ is the truth…forget about “religion”. I read the quran a while back, almost got fooled but luckily I read The Bible first and came to my senses. Sadly I was still too blind to help others see.

  • Behnam

    Let’s not forget about how the hadiths and what not are mentioned only when they control you. Look up all that crap too

  • michelletherese

    I guarantee you that poor baby was raped by a sick male and this poor woman was falsely accused just as you say in the beginning.

    • Softly Bob

      I agree. I wouldn’t be surprised if the husband raped his own daughter, murder her to silence her accusation, and then blamed it on his wife who is not the mother of the child. If so, then the wife’s blood will be avenged by the Lord.

  • TroySavary

    If she was guilty, the sentence was just. I’d implement the death penalty for the rape and murder of children to if I were allowed to make the laws.

    • Higlac

      Yes, but we MUST remember that the word of a MAN is worth double that of a woman in Islam. Furthermore, several imams have been attacking the use of DNA and other evidence. Thus, in this case it’s EXTREMELY DOUBTFUL that any justice was done in the slightest…

  • j7h

    Dude, I grew up in a Muslim country. I’ve read the Quran many times and have one at home. You obviously need to read your Bible more. These people are Satan’s children, yes, spiritually. But physically they are still human beings, who have souls just like every other human being. God still desires their salvation. They have blinded by the devil, just as all humans are in their own way before they come to Christ. I was once a child a Satan, too. I was a hard core Satanists and proud of it. I hated Christians too. But God got my attention and saved me out of that. The thing is, I willfully rejected God and chose Satanism. Most of these people are raised up in Islam and fully believe what they are doing is right, just like St. Paul did in killing Christians, when he was still in Judaism, before his conversion experience. God had mercy on Him. God is having mercy on Muslims and granting thousands of them salvation out of Islam, every year. Some of those saved and converted ones were just as bloody and evil as what you’re seeing here. They were also “children of the devil”. But they’re still human beings, otherwise they couldn’t be saved. So my point is, don’t assume there is no hope for these sick terrorists. There is. They may be purely evil. And yes, we should fight them. I’m all for it. But they are still humans that God desires to save. To say that they aren’t is ridiculous. If they aren’t human, then I wasn’t a human either and neither was Paul and neither were you or any other human. They are humans. They are deceived and corrupt, but as long as they are alive, there is hope for their salvation.

    • Julie

      So true…thank you for ever most reminding us to pray for their conversion. May the Blessed Virgin crush the head of the serpent, may she pray with us for the conversion of the Muslims.

      • j7h

        I agree, Julie!

    • susan

      I agree with you. God works in mysterious ways. 🙂

  • Higlac

    Oh YES!!! And the halal tentacles are spread throughout the entire food spectrum!! [While we’re at it, please add Mondelez (who has taken over Kraft) to the above blacklist; particularly as they’ve also got General Mills, Tobler and even General Foods under their control.]

    For chocolate products, so far Lindt has said that it’s NOT halal or kosher, so I go with them. [This year, they’re 170 years old and a real delicacy although more expensive.]

  • Higlac

    Tell such what precipitated the Crusades: over 450 years – 4½ CENTURIES – of Moslem attacks upon Christendom and others…

  • Higlac

    That’s an absolute and patent LIE!!!!! I can’t disagree more severely with you, period!!!

    Christians put the New Testament above the Old Testament – and I can tell you most emphatically that whatever grudges you may have with the Old don’t apply almost AT ALL with the New. If you can’t see THAT difference, you’re either an ignoramus or a liar!!! In fact, I’m immediately suspicious that you’re an agent provocateur for either or both of the Moslem and/or the Marxist ANTICHRISTS.

    SHAME ON YOU!!!!!

  • Higlac

    You should apologise to the pigs: these animals are almost every bit as intelligent as dogs and GREAT FRIENDS to Mankind, both as food and in terms of medical research. To boot, Moslems especially hate apes, dogs and pigs MERELY BECAUSE Mohammed told them so to do!!!

    Even the vilest virus or bacterium is better than a Moslem Untermensch!!! No animal is as vile as Man when He Goes wrong…

  • Higlac

    Please don’t forget that the big-business GOP moguls like the Bush family have LOTS of their money invested in the Arabo-Persian Gulf oil states like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain and the Emirates.

    Enough GOP people are TRUE Christians – something which no longer can be said for the RINOs like the Bushes, Romney, Christie et al; let alone the “Democrats” who have now been completely taken over by the Commies!!!

  • Ma Rk

    heartless son of bitches.

  • Josh Carter

    anytime religion is brought into it is doomed to fail as any belief system that is supernaturally based

  • Josh Carter

    yep god is soooo good

    • Higlac

      Who are WE PUNY human beings to question Him Who Created us????

      You’re obviously in bondage to Satan…

    • Julie

      What kind of translation are you using???

    • Ra’anan

      Josh Carter, well, not exactly. You see, the PRINCESS of the Midiyanite people, Kozbi bath Tzur, was sent to seduce MOSES & when she couldn’t get to him she settled on seducing Prince Zimri ben Saluh in near public. This was along w/24,000 other Midiyanite women seduce other Israelites who had just received the Torah at Mt Sinai after their Exodus from Egyptian slavery. A plague killed 24,000 of the tribe of Zimri ben Saluh & THAT’S when war was made on the treacherous Midiyanite people.

  • Higlac

    Look, you wretch, I can’t prove that there is a God, but equally so YOU can’t prove that there is no god, LIKE IT OR NOT!!!!

    That one couldn’t detect radiation until Marie Curie found it in radium around 150 years ago didn’t – and doesn’t – mean that it didn’t exist!!!!

    Furthermore, evolution would require so INFINITELY-MANY coincidences as to make it ABSURD – you simply CAN’T have so many, many things occur randomly!!!!

  • Higlac

    I know well that it’s fashionable to be an atheist; however, that it’s in fashion does NOT mean that it’s right.

    • Grandmere

      And it doesn’t even make sense anymore. The more we find out, the less sense atheism makes. Good call.

  • Higlac

    If you keep on writing like this, I’ll report you to Mr. Walid Shoebat, the moderator of this Website.

    We value INTELLIGENT, MEASURED, CONSIDERED, MATURE discussion here – NOT puerile, profane, FILTHY, MARXIST and MOSLEM TOTALITARIAN speech like that of you, Mr. Carter!!!

    • Grandmere

      Keep your powder dry, my friend. He may be beyond rebuke if you know what I mean.

      • Higlac

        Very sadly true, “Grandmère”: we can only hope and pray that God Will Have Mercy on him and his miserable soul by directly challenging him as He Has Done with others like Saul of Tarsus (St. Paul).

        • Grandmere

          Whenever I see them get close to the unpardonable sin I go into “warning” mode lest I inadvertantly goad them into committing it. I have had to do that several times here.

  • Grandmere

    Are you saying that the bible says Christianity is evil? You are already under a strong delusion.

  • Grandmere

    Josh, you are in mortal danger! I am afraid you may have committed the “unpardonable sin”.

  • Grandmere

    Josh, we can only dialog with someone who seeks the truth. Insults and obstinancy will not get you anywhere. If you have made up your mind, why come here?

  • Grandmere

    One good EMP and you will be walking.

  • Grandmere

    In order to find out you have to SEEK. You are not doing that.

  • Grandmere

    Their Allah approved of it. That is the problem.

  • Grandmere

    Josh, you will not make any converts here. We have had patience with you but it is time for you to expend your efforts elsewhere.

  • Higlac

    And what “race” is Islam???

  • j7h

    I used to think that, too, Josh. That is until I encountered Him personally. And by the way, true Christians don’t hate gays. We don’t believe the homosexual lifestyle is correct, but we love gay people very much and wish for them to be saved.

  • Grandmere

    Josh, you are on the outside looking in. You can’t understand what we are talking about.

  • Grandmere

    You will only find the answer to your question by opening yourself up to the possibility that you might be wrong.

  • j7h

    I couldn’t agree more!

  • Julie

    Who claims Christianity is good? It is only the Lord Who is good. Only when we die to ourselves and allow Him to live through us, are we effectively able to be His heart, eyes, hands and feet — not in self righteous gloating…but in serving others.

  • Julie

    Judeo Christianity is the most enduring and consistent belief system. Confucius could write out the 7 commandments…meaning, any human being can perceive something of God in nature and reason…and relate to the Golden Rule to treat your neighbor as yourself.

    But God alone is the Unmoved Mover…and it is through the Jewish people He made Himself known.

    You have to realize the Jews way back then were just as primitive as their enslavers….eye for eye…it is God coming to them at their level, spiritual children, to lift them up, give them the 10 commandments.

    The Jews evolved. And our faith continues to guide us to become better.

    Anyone who states they love God but hate their neighbor are liars. There is nothing in belief to call us to hate gays.

  • 1Bobby8

    Exactly.

  • Julie

    Saudi head of house did that to her child….that is what I believe.

  • Saxon Warrior

    And you don’t know what you;re talking about. If you think the Bible is evil then you’re the one that has cherry-picked.

  • Ra’anan

    Josh Carter: King Louis XIV of France asked Blaise Pascal, the great French philosopher, to give him proof & Pascal (as in “Pascal’s Wager”) responded, “The Jews,” because the Jews should NOT exist since they are constantly persecuted by their daughter religions of the various Christian & Islamic faiths. Yet, they do & the Jews are G-d’s chosen people, so they CAN’T disappear, despite Nazis, KKK, white supremacists, skinheads, ISIS, HAMAS, Hezbollah, the PLO, the wars of Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan & Gaza, Russian & Polish & Hungarian & Romanian pogroms, etc.

  • alancufc

    The fucking lot of ragheads that carry out such deeds need to be eliminated, i’m sure the most of people that live under these bastards live in fear.

  • j7h

    That’s how you see it, but just because that’s what you think and believe doesn’t make you correct.

  • Higlac

    A few shocking facts for you to know, “forgiveness”:

    1) According to Wikipedia (not always the best of sources, but since this is in the past, likely it’s as good as any), the Spanish Inquisition didn’t kill more than 3,000 people in its ENTIRE 400-or-so year history. Its notoriety has been exaggerated.

    Can Christians be cruel? As any human beings, YES: after all, ALL Mankind is intrinsically EVIL, like it or not!!!!

    2) The Crusades? Do you know what provoked the Crusades??? Over 450 – that is four hundred and fifty – years of perpetual Moslem attacks (war, piracy, conquest, &c.) upon the West!!!! Look up Alexandria 640, Poitiers (Tours) 732, Constantinople 717-18 (the Moslems here finally succeeded in 1453), Manzikert 1071. This last spurred the Byzantine Emperor of the time to literally BEG for Western assistance against the Moslems – in response to which Pope Urban II declared the First Crusade in 1095.

    3) Adolf Hitler was only NOMINALLY any sort of Christian: in fact, he HATED Christianity and wished that Germany had been Islamic instead!!!! And yes, he and the Arab Moslems were strong allies in World War II – in fact, the idea of utterly exterminating the Jews (as opposed to merely expelling them) was powerfully stimulated in 1941 by the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj ‘Amin al-Husseini!!!

    4) The 16th century was a very intolerant time, PERIOD!!! True religious tolerance came into being after 1648 after the Thirty Years’ War. Thus, to attack Calvin, Luther, Zwingli et al for not being in conformance with a Western civilisation CORRUPTED by non-believing, Christophobic “Enlightenment” ‘philosophers’ like Denis Diderot, François Arouet Voltaire, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Georg Hegel, Karl Marx and the rest of those ANTICHRISTS is absolutely wrong…

  • j7h

    Exactly.

  • j7h

    I don’t cherry pick anything out of it.

  • Higlac

    REALLY????

    Yet, do you know how many people have EACH of Islam AND anti-theistic atheism KILLED????

    Islam has not less than 270,000,000 casualties over 1,400 years.

    Atheism has not less than 172,000,000 casualties over merely 97 years:
    – Communism = 120,000,000 in peacetime. [Mao = 60,000,000, 1949-76; Ljéñin + Stáljin = 40,000,000, 1917-53; Pol Pot = 1,500,000, 1974-78.]
    – Nazism = 52,000,000, 12,000,000 in peacetime, 1933-45, including 6,000,000 Jews; 40,000,000 via World War II.

    NOW, let’s hear what are the statistics for Judaism and Christianity…

  • j7h

    There doesn’t need to be any proof for anyone else. It wasn’t to prove anything. God said Himself “You will seek me and find me when you seek for Me with ALL your heart. And I will be found by you.” But you can’t come with a haughty “prove yourself to me! You owe me!” kind of attitude, you have to come with a true desire to know the truth about Him and humility. And that doesn’t overnight.

    What proved it for me may not be the same thing that proves it for you. I’d have no problem sharing some of my experiences with you, but you seem more interested in being argumentative.

  • Higlac

    The Bible DID command but NO LONGER commands atrocities.

    Its nasty things were meant ONLY for Ancient Israel!!! Once she was conquered by the Assyrians and Babylonians, she ceased to exist – at which point these ordinances were annulled.

    On the other hand, if you read the Qur’ân, you’ll quickly notice that ITS commandments to violence are OPEN-ENDED and applicable to Moslems FOR ALL TIME!!!

  • j7h

    No I don’t hate them. Just because I see a lifestyle as a sin doesn’t mean I hate them as people or see them as a disease. When I was younger I also lived a life that was quite sinful. My parents and others who knew me utterly rejected my lifestyle, but they still loved me, and I knew they did, even though we disagreed about how I was living my life. I have gay family, friends, and co-workers. They know what I believe, and they also know that I love and care about them.

  • Higlac

    It’s established fact that the Marxists have allied themselves with the Moslems after the collapse of the USSR deprived them of Soviet help in their mutual and perpetual goal of destroying Western civilisation

    Of course they hate each other and will have it out over what’s to dominate: “pure” Islam vs. “perfect, scientific Communism”. HOWEVER, they’ll work together until us Westerners are prostrate on the ground (not merely on our knees)!!!

  • j7h

    And there’s nothing fallacious about me saying true Christians don’t hate gays. There are a lot of people in the world who claim to be Christians who are not. Some beat up gays or try to kill them or mock them or hold signs that say God hates gays. Those would be people that like to think they are Christians but are certainly not acting like it by that kind of behaviour.

  • j7h

    You are entitled to your beliefs, and I am entitled to mine. It sounds like your beef is with God. So why don’t you take it up with Him?

  • Higlac

    Be honest: MANY things are unpalatable in this world, but they are true nevertheless.

    NONE of us miserable people, either individually or collectively, can prove this either way; and that includes ALL the “savants” who have ever lived, live and will live in the future…

  • j7h

    I never said anything of the sort. And as for that, there was plenty of evil during that time. There always has been.

  • Higlac

    Jews have GENETIC things to prove themselves as a race – e.g., Tay-Sachs disease, which attacks nobody else…

  • Higlac

    We were not talking about homosexuality in this posting – you are dragging it in in an attempt to force it upon us!!!

  • j7h

    But in one encounter, I did have witnesses.

  • Higlac

    Try St. Louis Capet, 9th king of France. He’s counted as a spectacularly fine example.

    Also not too bad in that realm is St. Thomas More…

  • Julie

    The King James version came out over 1500 years after the assembling of the sacred books of Scripture by the Church….By 100 AD, practically all the books of Scripture were approved for public revelation. There was still concern about who was the author of the Gospel of St. John. And the Book of Hebrews was not approved until around 200 AD.

    This was the work of not just one person, but many people all seeking the Holy Spirit as Church to discern the completion of Sacred Scripture…and yes, I would think someone would want the interpretation the Lord Himself used instead of someone else 1500 years later who is severed with the universal church.

    The epistle of St. Paul states one can discern the presence of God through reason and nature.

    Christ did not start His church on a single individual as we see in the beliefs of Muslims who think God revealed Himself solely to Muhammed. How can we be sure his insights were truly from God.

    How can you be sure yours is the right translation especially when given the position of the destruction of the unity of Christians and the ongoing proliferation of different interpretations that are so evident today.

    You can go down a street in America and see a number of separate Christian churches that are not in communion with each other, do not worship with each other, do not believe in Christ with each other.

  • Julie

    Who do you think?

  • Higlac

    WOW, how many things you have DARED to say and imply without checking what I’ve really said or not said.

    That in itself is proof of delusion…

  • Higlac

    Halal butchering is EXTREMELY SADISTIC!!! The animals are NOT – repeat, NOT – stunned as is the norm with non-halal slaughter. They are left fully conscious and must bleed themselves to death, allowing a whole slew of toxins to be released while they suffer and writhe in the direst agonies!!!

    That’s why halal food – on top of its being sacrificed to an IDOL (Mohammed in fact – his “allah” was merely his sock-puppet), which we Christians are not supposed to eat – is an ABOMINATION!!!

  • Higlac

    Mr. Carter, you said that “no politician is a true christian” – you didn’t differentiate about today as opposed to the past.

  • Higlac

    Still, who did they ESPECIALLY ENJOY persecuting??? CHRISTIANS

    Sure, they persecuted their own (for example, Stáljin was happy to destroy his underlings and potential rivals like Jágoda, Jezhóv, Ordzhonikídze, Kiróv – at his death, he was targeting Bjérija, Mólotov, Mikoyan and perhaps Khrushchjóv and/or Máljenkov); however, it very much was in the name of their IDEOLOGY – COMMUNISM – that they WERE killing and/or imprisoning Christians left, right and centre!!!

    Hitler was a NON-believer other than in himself!!! If you read the biography The Man With the Miraculous Hands about Himmler’s masseur-doctor Dr. Felix Kersten, at one point the Nazis were preparing a brand-new religion in which Hitler was to become a sort of “saviour” à la Buddha which would annihilate Christianity in Germany. In fact, he was FAR more sympathetic to Islam than Christianity!!! [I’ve already posted on this earlier.]

  • Higlac

    “Daily KOS” is a COMMUNIST – i.e., Marxist – Website!!!

    Mr. Carter, you NEVER were a true Christian: your attitude of pride, demanding that God Prove Himself to you on your terms as opposed to His, proves who you really are…

  • Higlac

    All of which total up to less than 16,300,000 allowing for that about 6,000,000 were killed in the German states during the Thirty Years’ War.

    That number is less than one-TENTH of what each of atheism and Islam are guilty of. Also, do you realise what caused the Crusades???? [The answer is over 450 years – 4½ CENTURIES – of Islamic attacks upon Christendom!!!]

    • Grandmere

      I’m sorry to tell you, but you probably know that, even with me begging him not to go there, he blasphemed the Holy Spirit. He is now beyond any rebuke or hope. We tried to warn him but he refused to listen to love or reason. He is lost forever.

      • Higlac

        Yes, “Grandmère”: it’s most definitely possible if not highly probable. His claiming to have been a Christian for 15 years indicates that he really may have ended up like another Judas Iscariot.

        May Christ Have Mercy upon us so that we ourselves never risk such a most terrible thing…

        In any case, since he wanted to postulate anti-Christian statistics, I felt it necessary to point out what they add up to – and just how puny they are in comparison with Islam and atheism.

      • Higlac

        Ah, “Grandmère”, I’m now very inclined to agree with you: his open HATE for us Christians and our faith would at the minimum put him in the same risk category as Saul of Tarsus was.

        We can only hope that Christ Will Give him a last chance by Appearing Directly to him – if he then rejects Him, he truly will then have committed that sin for sure and certain. [I’ve heard of a few cases where Christ Did such a thing to such characters, saying that if they rejected Him, they would never hear His Voice again.]

  • Higlac

    You don’t think people considered it moral then? Given what we’ve seen Mohammed convince his primitive Moslem-Arabs to do, it would seem that morality wasn’t such a big issue in the Middle East at a certain point.

    Besides, it is pretty obvious that God DID Want His Ancient Israelites to do such things in order to make sure that they wouldn’t get corrupted by the pagan-Canaanite culture they were supposed to be displacing – the very culture He Considered to be particularly accursed, so much so that He Demanded that EVERYTHING of Jericho be TOTALLY DESTROYED. Yes, we do cringe at these atrocities; however, our attempting to impose our views over 3,000 years after the fact is not correct, like it or not…

  • TroySavary

    I love leftie.
    “Killing is wrong, except when it is unborn children, or for convenience. “

  • Grandmere

    I think you do believe in the concept of sin. If you steal your neighbors lawn mower or if you steal someone’s hard earned money through some scam you do something that is wrong and violates them. Take your pick, as an unbeliever, of things you think are wrong or downright evil. You know, down deep, that such things should not be and are worthy of punishment. That is why civil government was instituted by God. In the antediluvian world everyone had your attitude. Sadly, it is making a comeback. You can tell that I have no hatred for you. Just remember that I pleaded for you to think.

  • Grandmere

    That passage from Matthew is what I have been pleading with you about. If you have not crossed the line by blaspheming the Holy Spirit I beg you to step back. If you have done so, I must tell you that you are beyond hope. Any further post here will not be met by me or any others. You will have willingly damned yourself.

  • Grandmere

    You are correct that he was a pagan.

  • Grandmere

    Unfortunately, Art, Josh has nowhere to run. I treated him with respect. I tried to warn him. His blood will not be required at my hand.

  • Grandmere

    Hitler’s mother was Catholic. He was a pagan. His roots in the occult are very easily documented.

  • Grandmere

    Cheapest shot I ever saw. What? No reasoned response? No intellectual reply? You are in over your head here. Go chase Puff the magic dragon.

  • Grandmere

    I will never admit that.

    • Higlac

      AMEN!!!! And nor will I, “Grandmère”.

      It’s absolutely scandalous that there are so many in this world generally as well as those who’ve come here to sully this Website who insist that “fair is foul and foul is fair” – i.e., they call evil ‘good’ and good ‘evil’!!!! We had darn-well hope and pray that Christ’s Second Coming is near, and the closer the better…

  • Grandmere

    May God bless you more and more until the day of Christ’s coming.

    • j7h

      Thank you, Grandmere! I need that. You too, my friend!

  • Grandmere

    You are intellectually lazy. Do some digging for a change. That’s how you find treasure.

  • Grandmere

    What are you trying to kill, Killer? Be careful you don’t kill yourself.

  • Grandmere

    I will take you up on your first question. A child who dies of starvation or violence is immediately in the presence of God. There is no past or future. Only a glorious now. Their life begins, never to be touched by anything that is imperfect or unlovely. Anyone who has lost a child of their own or has seen innocent children die from the ravages of society run amok should take comfort from this. While we all seethe with rage against these things, Christians never lose heart. We will see these children again, but not as victims. They are part of the communion of saints. This is, at present, beyond your understanding. I believe I have avoided the traps. You probably wont find my logic to your liking but remember, you are on the outside looking in. Right now you don’t know what we are talking about.

  • Grandmere

    Face it. You would not believe if God himself appeared to you personally on the road to your house.

  • Grandmere

    But you must admit you are not seeking the truth. If you were you would read the posts. Do some digging. Realize that we are not omniscient but seekers. We contend with each other on some things but are united by our core beliefs.

  • Grandmere

    You are behind on the science. It would take me two weeks to bring you up to date. To keep up takes at least an hour a day of reading and it is all leading to a creator. Many scientists are now saying they are moving from atheism to agnosticism. That is a step in the right direction. Time, however, is running out.

  • Grandmere

    When you reach your final destination remember I warned you about Puff the magic dragon.

  • Grandmere

    The problem is that you are not adding to the conversation. You are attempting to shut it down. You know by now that I am no terrorist. The fact that anyone at all is replying to you is evidence that there are people here who care about you.

  • Grandmere

    She was a foreign worker. They have no civil rights. I can guarantee you that she didn’t get a trial as we would know it. Sharia is brutal for all and women, especially foreigners, are given absolutely no quarter. No benefit of any doubt whatsoever.

  • Grandmere

    A woman in Saudi Arabia knows she will be punished if she goes outside her house without a male relative among other “offenses”. Knowing that, do you think any woman in Saudi Arabia would dare abuse a child? NO WAY. These women live in fear of burning the toast for goodness sake.

  • Grandmere

    You have the God given right to pick and choose.

  • Grandmere

    I have never asked him to cast aside his reason or logic. Reason and logic is what I want him to employ. You too.

  • Grandmere

    I have never asked him to cast aside his reason or logic. Reason and logic is what I want him to employ. You too.

  • Grandmere

    I am not inside a frame. I am free. It is beautiful.

  • Grandmere

    I am not inside a frame. I am free. It is beautiful.

  • Grandmere

    Sadly, you were never a Christian. You might have been in a Christian family. There are many like you. They grow up, begin to question, don’t find cogent answers, and leave. Believe it or not I grew up like that. I had to find the truth on my own. All those TV guys are, guess what, not Christians. It is a mine field out there. Why do you think Jesus said the way was narrow. Notice, that is the first time I have used his name with you. That is because I don’t throw it around just to make my own petty little point.

  • Higlac

    HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

    By the 19th century, most of any latent bigotry in Christianity had been purged; on the other hand, where do we find that “bigotry”???

    In Marxists and other “humanist” philosophers: they are the ones who’re determined to eradicate the very foundation of our Western civilisation: Christianity.

    Forcing homosexuality or other such things down the throats of the rest of us is NOT welcome and never can hope to really lead to good. Two, three or more – even infinitely more!!! – wrongs can NEVER, EVER, EVER make a right!!!!!

  • j7h

    No Hitler was not a Christian. He did claim to be publicly a fewvtimes, for political reasons, but in his private life and with his top officers he cursed the Christians and had many of them killed also, especially the ones who dared to speak out against him. He was very deeply into the occult.

  • j7h

    That’s a valid point SkepticAtheist. I was once an atheist myself, so I do understand how atheists view life. But I’m content to agree to disagree with you and have no hard feelings toward you. Thank you for your gracious reply.

  • j7h

    Yes, very true SkepticAtheist, to everything you said.

    • Higlac

      Are you really sure you agree with him, “j7h”?!?!??

      • j7h

        Yes, what he said right there in that statement is correct – about the communist leaders killing people who didn’t support their ideology, and about Hitler. The only part I don’t mean to agree with is Christian dictators in Africa killing in the name of their religion.

  • j7h

    Amen.

  • j7h

    Before I do that, I have to ask you a couple of things. First of all, are you truly interested in knowing if there is a god out there, even though you’re convinced there isn’t? In other words, would you be willing to accept possibly being wrong about your belief? If so, what would you accept as proof? The reason I’m asking is simply this: this is a very public forum. If I’m going to share my experiences, it will mean I’m putting personal details out in full view of the world that are private. I’m unsure of your motives for asking me to divulge those details. Are you just looking for something to scrutinize, or make fun of, or to try to disprove? Or do you truly want to know? I’m willing to share, but I want to make sure I’m not wasting time and energy, for you or me.

  • Higlac

    On your head and your soul be your contempt and arrogance!!!!

    There’s amply enough evidence that the Moslems and the Marxists have agreed to set aside their differences in the interest of their MUTUAL goal: the destruction of our Western Civilisation!! They both seek it and have been seeking it from the time they were created.

    Furthermore, they’re closer than you think: Marxism doesn’t believe in God (at least officially – the late Richard Wurmbrand convincingly postulated that Marx was a secret Satanist), while the “god” of Islam is the most IMPOTENT, FEEBLEST possible god who needs people to do everything for him…

    Before saying I’m misinformed, why don’t you study the issue yourself? Perhaps THEN we can talk – but not now…

  • Higlac

    More “politically-correct” Marxism and anti-Semitism which is best ignored…

  • Higlac

    Ljéñin was only one-quarter Jewish. Are you going to use that against him? What about Stáljin, who definitely had ZERO Jewish blood in him? Mao? Pol-Pot? Khrushchjóv?

  • Higlac

    Again, you’re applying standards that weren’t even dreamed about then. That’s hypocrisy…

    To boot, God Gave those laws in order to show just how utterly FALLEN and intrinsically-EVIL people actually are!!!

  • Higlac

    Look into musical markings – that’s what will prove you wrong…

  • Higlac

    I don’t believe in “hate speech” laws: they haven’t done anything for Mankind!!! Hateful attitudes still continue to this very day (e.g., against the Jews and pro-Hitler) in all too many people. [As to sodomy, that’s answered earlier.]

    I otherwise believe in God, NOT Man, being the measure of all things. It’s your choice if you want to hate and deny Him; however, it’s my solemn duty to warn you about what the consequences happen to be. When you face Him and He Throws you into the Lake of Fire, don’t say that you weren’t warned…

  • Higlac

    My main reply to you is awaiting approval by Mr. Walid Shoebat, so: patience.

    Suffice it for now to say that your attitude is so not just God-denying but God-HATING as to make me wonder if anything I write will get you even to change your mind one iota.

    Just one question I’ll therefore repeat from there: What is “progress”???

  • Higlac

    Officially, people were killed for a political ideology; however, the REAL truth is that people like Haralan Popov and Richard Wurmbrand were persecuted FOR BEING CHRISTIANS!!! That’s what they and their colleagues were told in the prisons and concentration camps of the Communist GULags!!!!

    I’m not going to fall for your LIES (muda’rat / taqiyya) and DISTORTIONS (kitman)!!!! I’m well aware how Marxists use the same tricks as the Moslems in trying to deceive me and those who think alike. Enjoy your failing this time…

  • Higlac

    In other words, because you’ve lost the battle of the statistics, you simply declare it all “bullshit fights”??

    Not unlike the “chess-playing” pigeon who, when he loses, knocks over all the pieces, defecates all over the chessboard and declares “victory”!!!!…

  • Higlac

    You would be wise not to read things into something where they actually are not.

    I was only referring to your attitude as being what I described – that doesn’t mean that I’m out to insult you as a human being.

  • Higlac

    Indeed the story was not supposed to be other than of the matter of Saudi Arabia whose rulers indeed believe that anybody outside their family – with the exception of certain sheikhs (scholars), muftis, imams, &c. – are sub-human, and you’ll see that I’ve tackled the subject appropriately in other postings of mine.

    Alas, a great big band of Marxists (including a number of LGBT types) out to hijack every conversation and attack those of us who’re Christians have been stomping their filthy feet upon all of the rest of us – and I among others am NOT going to take their insults, distortions, lies and the rest of their EVIL lying down!!!! We have every right to defend ourselves, and don’t you forget it. “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!!!”

  • Higlac

    Read what Richard Wurmbrand, Haralan Popov and lots of others have written of their GULag experiences.

    Read also what Communists themselves proclaim: “Communism is a death-blow to religion”!! Those are their own words!!!

  • Higlac

    I wasn’t calling all non-Christians as Untermenschen – just Moslems and Marxists because of what they (apparently including yourself) want to do to those of us who actually DO BELIEVE!!!

    Your HATE of us is what’s REPREHENSIBLE!!!! I’m calling you out on what it is – we’ll not tolerate your Marxist LIES, DISTORTIONS, half-“truths”, &c., even if we lose our lives for it!!!

  • Higlac

    I STILL want my meat killed HUMANELY – not with making animals suffer absolutely ANY MORE THAN IS UNAVOIDABLE!!!

  • Higlac

    Why should us Christians bother wasting time with you madmen, Christian-hating (you don’t likely hate Buddhism, Shintoism or Confucianism the way you hate Christianity, you hypocrites!!!), immoral, Communist mass-murdering wannabes???

  • Higlac

    LIAR!!!!

  • Higlac

    That’s a complete LIE!!!

  • Higlac

    Atheism – and all atheistic humanism with it – has sullied itself FOREVER and irrevocably via Communism and Nazism!!!!

    Let this be my LAST reply to you and your sevenfold-accursed colleagues in Marxism (Communism) and its HATE against religion (especially Christianity – though it welcomes Satanism, oddly enough, but maybe not if Marx was a secret Satanist!!!), family-values, traditional Western Judæo-Christian civilisation.

    Good-bye forever!!!! And while we’re at it: DEATH TO ISLAM and MARXISM including NAZISM!!!!

  • Higlac

    In fact, it’s not the 14th but the 6th century (AD 500s) in which Islam is stuck – and they would gladly go back to prehistoric times for their “pure Islam”.

  • cubanflowers

    you people sound asinine……

    not only that.. all of you need to realize that ALL organized religion is horrible and filthy…. and no abrahamic religion has committed more acts of wickedness than judaism and christianity!…

    you people are worrying about this lady…. what about the baby…
    suppose the lady was guilty?.. in my country… rape and murder of a child is the death penalty also!….

    perhaps if that was the case in places like the states… maybe.. just maybe… rapists would think twice before they steal the life of a baby….

    ..be blessed

  • Higlac

    Granted that Wurmbrand and Popov escaped with their lives; they BOTH however witnessed many thousands of other real Christians WHO WERE KILLED (even by guards in concentration camps shooting them at whim!!!!) and often for doing infinitely LESS of “activism” than those two may have been. A HUGE number of those cases were and are well documented.

    As to Karl Marx: I strongly recommend that you read Wurmbrand’s book “Marx & Satan”, where he postulates that Marx was a secret Satanist.

  • Higlac

    From 1 John, chapter 2:

    18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that Antichrist shall come, even now are there many Antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

    19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

    The ONE principal Antichrist to really watch for and beware is also referred to as “the Son of Perdition”, while we’re at it.

  • Higlac

    Ho ho, an open Jew-hater!!!

    Yet Christianity came from Judaism. Also, read Romans chapters 9 through 11. It’s IMPOSSIBLE to be a Christian AND a Jew-hater simultaneously.

  • Higlac

    Aren’t ppp or ffff markings the equivalent of multiple exclamation or question marks?

  • Higlac

    The moment you endorse behaviours that Christianity condemns, you no longer have the same morals!!

  • Higlac

    Lie #1: that I hate anybody who doesn’t agree with me.

    Lie #2: I enjoy labelling people.

    Antidote: go study Marxism and think about what you were taught at school, college and/or university.

  • Higlac

    One unpalatable fact you need to bear in mind which the Bible repeatedly states and even stresses: ALL Mankind – repeat, ALL including you and me (Jesus as being both Man AND God was and is the sole exception!!!) – is intrinsically EVIL!!!

  • Higlac

    Religious freedom was meant WITHIN Christianity; i.e., that one wasn’t going to make a specific denomination (Catholicism, Anglicanism, Calvinism {Presbyterianism, Puritanism}, &c.) to be the official religion of any state.

  • Higlac

    Atheism in fact IS a “religion” of sorts, whether you like it or not.

    Anyway, good-bye again!!

  • Higlac

    Who did the Salem witch trials? Presbyterians, or at least Puritans!!!

    Who burned Migüel Serveto de Villanova? Genevan Calvinists with Calvin being involved in the verdict!!

    Don’t forget: Hitler was only NOMINALLY a Catholic, just like Stáljin was nominally Orthodox.

    Ergo, Protestantism is no better in itself…

  • Higlac

    My main reply is on hold pending approval – patience…

  • Higlac

    Actually, atheists often are some of the most ritualistic people around – look at their weddings and funerals.

  • Higlac

    http://www.hourofthetime.com/1-LF/Hour_Of_The_Time_08122012-Marx_and_Satan.pdf

    Good-bye forever, “Thomas” – with pleasure!!!

  • Higlac

    1) What of the ordinary people of Jerusalem who lamented and protested Jesus’ Being Condemned to death and His Crucifixion??

    2) Both Nicodemus and St. Joseph of Arimathæa – and also Saul of Tarsus (who became St. Paul): they ALL were Pharisees!

    3) Would you call Bernard Nathanson, who converted to Catholicism, evil after he renounced and recanted his being formerly a big abortionist?

  • Higlac

    Enough people have already explained to you the Hitler was NO true Christian whatsoever!!!

  • Higlac

    Your open attacks upon Christianity are very insulting in terms of your using words like “infantile”, “stupidity contest” and “shut up”. No less insulting is your drivel about the “flying spaghetti monster”.

    QED.

  • Higlac

    Let’s see: Ljéñin, Stáljin, Khrushchjóv, Brjézhñev, Andrópov, Chjerñénko, Gorbachjóv; Hitler, Mussolini.

    Also, don’t forget all their satraps: Husak, Jaruzelski, Zhivkov, Ceaausescu, Gheorghiu-Dej, Hoxha, Tito, Ulbricht, Honecker.

    Need one go on?…

  • Higlac

    Moslems HATE life and joy – ALL OF IT!!!

  • Julie

    True….but you don’t have the experience of the liturgy…of the communion of saints, of the mystiologia….entering into the eternal being outside time and space.

    We have God present in our tabernacles…we spend time with Him there…you get this sense of Him and of life…Mary had Christ with her ….she adored Him…we will never know in this life how she experienced His divinity in the privacy of their home.

    It also has to go back to the sense of right or wrong…the sense of life, the flesh, of death…of eternal life….we all walk the same path to salvation, to become better people…but Mary did not take the same path as us…

    She was especially redeemed and saved from sin at her conception to become the mother of the Messiah, Savior of all the world…Who raises All things up to himself. Duns Scotus….the Immaculate Conception.

    Without the Word with Sacraments…a 2000 year old tradition, that if you are faithful to it…thorugh your life…you end up living life on a more transcendent level..once you taste it…you don’t go back to where you were before…

    No…it was hebrew custom to name other kin as brothers and sisters…and only Mary, St. John and other women did not abandon Christ at the Cross..if he had siblings, they would have been there…blood thicker than water…some of his apostles were cousins…but not siblings.

  • j7h

    That’s entirely wrong. Many Muslim countries use quite a bit of Marxism in their social programs and also in the way they carry out government.

  • j7h

    Dear, this a Christian site. We were in here on our own, minding our own business, talking to each other. You guys came in here and started harassing us for our beliefs, trying go bully us with yours. We are just defending ourselves and each other. If you’re really an atheist and really believe there’s no god, then why are you coming into our forum and trying to pick a fight? What difference does it make to you if we believe there’s a God? Go back to your own and enjoy what time you have to live and leave us alone.

  • j7h

    Fair enough. I’m not expecting you to change your mind. All I’ll say is that my experience was personal. And if you really want to know if there’s a god, then you should ask Him to show you for yourself. God knows if you’re really serious or not. He won’t waste His time if you’re not really interested or if you’re being arrogant and demanding about it. You have to allow Him to do it on His terms, in His own way and time. You also have to be patient.

    I used to be involved in what most people would call the occult. It was not a teenage phase. I wasn’t a teenager. I had been raised in the church, but it had been a while that I had thought all of it was total bunk. I had some experiences though, that convinced me there was some kind of life outside of the dimensions that we live in, as many scientists say there are other dimensions that we don’t recognise with our 5 senses.

    So I became interested in the occult as well as these other dimensions and what kind of energy or possible life they might contain – if any at all.

    One day, I’m visiting a friend from childhood, who is totally into church and God – both totally repugnant to me. In order to see her, I had agreed to go with her to her church. She had already committed to some things there, but she wanted to see me. After church, we went to some of her friends’ house. She had already agreed to go pray with them about something, then the two of us would go do something fun. I was invited to come in, but there’s no way I was going in for some stupid prayer session, so I chose to wait in the car while they did their thing in their house.

    When they finished their prayers, my friend came back out to the car, and we drove off. We were going to go by her parents’ home and wait for them to get home from church. We were going to see if they wanted to go to eat somewhere altogether. My friend’s dad was an associate pastor of that church, and it was the Sunday evening service we were waiting on them to come home from.

    While we were still driving to the parents’ home, my friend was driving me nuts telling me what her friends had been talking about in their prayer meeting. That was something I had no interest in at all. But she was really religious, and this was her life. So I listened quietly, because it was still good to see her after so many years apart. And I didn’t want to disrespect her.

    We were about a block from her parents’ street. I had been thinking how I wished she would change the subject to something other than God, when all of the sudden, I heard a man’s voice from the back seat of the car. She was still talking. She didn’t hear it. The voice very calmly said to me, “If you get in your car tonight and drive home and do not renounce your witchcraft and rebellion to me, you will not make it.” Then, I suddenly saw myself, like I was another person – like watching a movie with me in it. I saw myself driving home later that night. An accident occurred behind me on the road, and a semi truck plowed into me so hard, that my car shot across an intersection and hit a utility pole head-on. I died instantly on impact. There was a huge angelic being, taller than the utility pole, standing right by the pole waiting to transport my soul to another place. I had not been afraid to die. But I knew then that where I was going was going to be a dreadful place, and I had an overwhelming sense of regret, shame, and dread for how I had lived my life. Then this movie – like vision stopped, and there I still was in the car with my friend, driving us to her parents’ house. We were just about to get to their street, and I stopped her from talking. That whole experience I had, happened in just seconds, so I quickly turned around to see the man in the backseat, but there was none. I wasn’t on any drugs, and I wasn’t having a hallucination. I stopped my friend talking, and I told her about the man’s voice and what he said and what he showed me in my mind. She started crying and confessed that the main reason her friends and her had prayed that night was for me. She had had such a burden and sense of urgency that I needed to come to God soon. My car was at her parents’ home. It had been parked there for that day. We had been going to get it so we could all drive to eat somewhere after their church stuff was done, and then I could drive back home from the restaurant. We found her parents already at home. They had gotten done with church unusually early and had been commenting to each other how unusual it was for church to be done so early when my friend and I got there. We came in, and I told them what I had just encountered. They just listened and didn’t say a word until I was done sharing. Then the father asked me if I was ready to decide whether not I was ready to leave witchcraft and give God some serious consideration. I said I was ready, that I still needed time to sort some things out, but I was ready to renounce witchcraft and find out about God. So they prayed for me. When they did, it felt like scales fell off my eyes. Literal scales. I suddenly saw things so differently. Her parents made us dinner instead of us going out, and they insisted that I stay the night. So I did.

    At 6AM, the next morning, I was still asleep, but my friends’ parents received a phone call from my parents who were upset and anxious about me. They were living overseas still, and they were also still church-going. They had been praying for me that night before also – and, no, this was not prearranged between them and my friends’ s parents. They hadn’t spoken to my friends’ parents in a while. They had no idea what all had been happening over here with me on the other side of the globe. They were just having their usual prayer before they went to bed, and during their prayer for me, they both had a bad sense that I had been involved in a car accident and was dead. Because of the time difference, they waited a little while before calling my friends’ parents, but as soon as they thought it was the usual time for my friends’ parents to get up for work, they called and told them what they felt God told them about me and the accident. They wanted to know if I was alive and okay. That floored my friends’ parents, and they told them what had transpired from our end. I got up not long afterwards, and they told me about my parents’ call.

    Now whether not this means anything to you, this definitely got my attention. I started to believe that God was real at this poibt, but I still had some questions and confusion and doubt about things that I had hard time reconciling to God. It took time, and later a heart attack where God once again gave me back my life – this time while in the heart attack – before I began to decide to be serious about Him. Because, there was still a part of me that wanted to live how I wanted without a God telling me that I was doing some things that He says are wrong. I was ready to acknowledge that He existed, but I wasn’t ready to give my life to Him. After the heart attack and Him asking me in it, if I wanted to throw away my life and die right then, or if I wanted to live and see the purpose He had for my life – He wasn’t going to give me another opportunity. I knew then that if I wanted to know the truth about Him, I needed to take the opportunity He was giving me. I didn’t hide that I thought He allowed some awful things to happen to people, including me, that sure didn’t seem to make Him appear to be a good God, or a very powerful one. That started my serious inquiry. And I haven’t been disappointed yet – in life, yes, but in God, no.

  • Higlac

    The human mind is such that if it doesn’t have one excuse for war, it will find another. Don’t forget: ALL – repeat, ALL – Mankind is intrinsically EVIL!!!!

  • Higlac

    Since you’ve thought of me as insane from your very first challenge, you only need one word in response (you can look it up if you want): MARCHE!!!!

  • Higlac

    Very little if anything – and how is it that I know you at least a little bit? My late father – God Forgive him – was a militant atheist who gibed both my late mother and myself regularly…

    Good-bye yet again…

  • Higlac

    I’ll interrupt my intended silence yet again: it’s NOT us Christians who’re going to condemn homosexuals or anybody else for being disbelievers. Only God Can – and WILL – Do that!!!

    Our task as believers is to witness to those who don’t believe in the hope and belief that at least a few may – with God’s Help and Love indeed – change their minds from being hard-hearted and opposed to Him.

    I too have an old friend (22, almost 23, years) who’s homosexual – neither of us disdain each other but respect and care for each other. There is also an acquaintance I used to know, with whom I was on good terms during the time I dealt with the company for which he worked. If our paths cross, I’ll gladly greet and welcome him.

    It’s my prayer that both these fine men may be brought to Christ and delivered from their sins – and yes, there are LOTS of sins to go around. Not for nothing that the Bible tells us repeatedly that ALL Mankind – you and me included – is intrinsically EVIL!!!

  • Higlac

    I FEAR for him!! However, WHERE did I EVER write that he “should be punished for eternity just for being” a homosexual???

    As to the rest of your blabbing, others can deal with you better than I…

  • Higlac

    FAR FROM IT: I DON’T HATE atheists generally (though I will make it plain that I distrust and keep my distance from Marxists!!!). Furthermore, I never hated my late father. WHERE are you coming up with such ideas??? You’re now really taxing my patience…

  • Higlac

    You reject the Bible, so there’s nothing for us to have any basis for conversation… Why bother me any more, just let us go our separate ways.

    I really mean this to be GOOD-BYE for ever…

  • Higlac

    Protiv kime su ovi zli reči nameravani?

  • Saxon Warrior

    A good Christian will try to follow everything in the Bible that the Bible says to, but not for example the Jewish Laws of the OT because they were laws that applied only to Jews and never to Gentiles. Jesus overturned the civil and ceremonial Jewish laws anyway.
    So it’s not a matter of following the stuff you do and the stuff you don’t it’s a matter of actually reading it and seeing what it says rather than making assumptions about it from random verses.

  • j7h

    I’m not saying this to be rude, just to be honest. That is one of the lamest excuses I’ve heard, to justify harassing someone else for their beliefs. Your beliefs also affect my life via public policy, but I don’t use that as an excuse to go to atheist sites and harass them for their beliefs. I know some people do that, but I’m not one of them. And the majority of Christians don’t do that. I’m not saying you can’t make comments here. But when it’s clear that this is a Christian site, you could refrain from belittling people for their Christian faith. And by the way, as I’ve already explained in other comments, I don’t hate anyone, regardless of their views or how they live their life. I may not agree with them, but I don’t hate them. Many of my family and friends disagreed with how I believed and my lifestyle, but they still loved me, and I knew they did, even though we strongly disagreed about my “sinful” lifestyle. I may disagree with a person’s lifestyle, but that doesn’t at all mean that I hate them. That’s completely ludicrous.

  • j7h

    But as I said, before the witch craft, I had been an atheist. All those moves took years to make, it didn’t happen in a short period.

  • j7h

    Well, I can’t honestly say if it’s a majority or not. You may be right on that point. And I know there are Christians – or professing Christians – who do show hate and contempt, and I sincerely hate it when they do. If you have personally experienced that, you have my condolences and sympathy/empathy.

  • Higlac

    “Are you aware – or do you care – about how our Western birthrates have so fallen that we’re in DIREST danger of dying out as nations?”

    Good, overpopulation is the biggest issue this world has to overcome, because regardless of what Christians believe about the “second coming”, we are here for the long haul. That brings up another point, the way some Christians (note the use of “some”) believe that we can just use all our natural resources and not have to worry about running out or polluting the environment or global warming, all because they believe “soon, the second Coming will be here, so we don’t need to think in the long term or for future generations”.

    Goodness gracious, so you really DON’T CARE about your and my culture DYING OUT!!!! So you actually would be happy for us Westerners ESPECIALLY to die out in the name of reducing overpopulation!!!!

    So you’ll be happy to have this world taken over by relatively-ignorant Third-World types, and especially WILFULLY-IGNORANT (and DELIBERATELY SO!!!) Moslems – who WILL knock everything back to prehistoric times!!!

    Congratulations, you just totally lost me. Since you want the earth’s human population to die out ‘en masse’, you would prove your honesty BY KILLING YOURSELF – by instead wanting others to die out while remaining alive (WHY should YOU live and have others die?!?!???), you have proven to look down on your fellow-Man, which is a PROFOUNDLY EVIL attitude. Now I’m so disgusted that this can as well be my LAST RESPONSE to you until you ABSOLUTELY REPENT what you wrote above!!!! MARCHE!!!!!

    [Not to mention that mathematics is the building-block in science…] Good-bye forever!!!!

  • Higlac

    You may not have explicitly said it, but with your speaking of resource-usage and climate-change, it is implicit as you blame the West for using these things beyond their proper quota.

    #1 While I do believe in avoiding waste (for example, I’m careful not to drive more than I must), to say that we need to use little or nothing of resources and that we’re destroying ourselves by using too many thereof is a poor excuse. [Recycling has become not only a fashion here: enough people really believe in getting the most out of something, aiming for goods to LAST instead of getting the latest new thing or fad.]

    #2 Climate “change” as being caused by people has NOT – repeat, NOT – been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. [In fact, enough people worry about global COOLING, NOT warming – our last summer (2014) was singularly cool and relatively short-lived.] I’ll dare say that you have fallen for Marxist/leftist (generally) indoctrination – and yes, I’m being DEADLY-SERIOUS.

    #3 Being ignorant and being a fundamentalist are NOT automatically the same. It’s very easy to be ignorant of much while being as secular as you want; likewise, the depth of somebody’s religious faith doesn’t require somebody to be poorly educated – there have been and are all sorts of well-educated people who yet believe with all their hearts.

    [In any case, most Christians are NOT against technological innovation (aside from minority sects like the Amish or the Hutterites) – and they’re as thirsty for knowledge as anybody else. It’s MOSLEMS who’re indoctrinated to hate literally EVERYTHING about this life, especially if it be “un-Islamic”.]

    #4 It’s precisely where living standards are lower that you get lower safety, procedural, and other standards. I remember my late father telling me how on one of his trips to his native Serbia he saw ALL sorts of vehicles being on the road, even though here in North America they would be seized for violations.

    That I exploded is on account of what I hear so many, many people spouting forth without truly thinking about what they’re saying; especially when the slant (bias) is ANTI-Western. In fact, it’s us Westerners that have been learning to economise on usage, particularly in order to avoid waste. [Not to mention that I’m dealing with several mental conditions – if that influences you to all the more disdain me as a “flake”, “idiot”, &c., so be it. No pity or sympathy needed: just am being honest.]

    [As to the business “economy”: I realise this, what goes up has to come down. There truly is no such thing as “perpetual growth” – sooner or later everything will CONTRACT!!! This is just as guaranteed as the traditional three Malthusian ways of population-control (war, famine, pestilence) – yes, we’ve managed to push some of those things down, but they’ll come back against as nevertheless – don’t forget how various virii and bacteria are developing resistance against antibiotics. This is all the more so when people try to repair and/or recycle items on all levels (cars, appliances like stoves, washing-machines, microwave-ovens, &c.). When goods are made in a shoddy manner so as to “die” after x number of days, months, years, &c.: not only does this upset people who really want to get the most out of something (all the more if they acquire a sentimental attachment to a given thing); they see the companies producing such under-standard items as cheaters and robbers.]

  • Tim Bridges

    Bryan what I am saying makes no sense to you because your thoughts are centered on man. Man is not the great good, but God in Christ is. If you were more concerned about God’s honor than man’s supposed injuries it would make perfect sense. I don’t say this as an insult in any way, but an observation.
    Men commit crimes and the state law is honored in their punishment. Sometimes the state makes a mistake and punishes someone innocent (as many believe happened in the case of this video), but the idea of just retribution holds. God on the other hand makes no mistakes. Your suffering and death, and mine, and all of those horrible things that you mentioned will be shown to be just and right.

  • Higlac

    How can a NON-U.S. citizen be a card-carrying member of the AMERICAN National Rifle Association?

    Also, I’ve never handled firearms in my life – though I’d absolutely NEVER wish to be in the way of decent people who do have a reason to carry them. That everybody should be disarmed just because a certain gang of “whoever” so decides does NOT fit my beliefs…

  • Tony

    A bunch of demonic COWARDS with all capital letters! Islam is evil and was founded by a demon-possessed pedophile named Mohammed, who is now in Hell and will be thrown into the Lake of Fire some day when Jesus comes back!

  • Batters Box

    These are ugly perverted people and Europe is being invaded with these scum that will bite the hands that feed them,,,