The Oil War Has Begun, And It will Eventually Lead To The Doom Of Mecca And The Worship of ANTICHRIST

By Walid Shoebat (Shoebat Exclusive)

Saudi Arabia which over a billion Muslims worship towards its direction for prayers began its war using oil to control both Russia and Iran. This war will not hurt the U.S. much, but will cause Mecca’s destruction. How all this will unfold must be explained from all angles, biblical, Islamic, economic and demographic.



Firstly, from the biblical perspective. Why so many use the Bible to predict the end of the U.S. is beyond me. While the U.S. has its share of sin, it is not the greatest persecutor of the Church. Most ignore that Saudi Arabia is the causer of more death of Christians than any other entity from the dawn of time by her production of two; Islam and Oil.

Islam caused so many nations throughout history to butcher millions upon millions of Christians. Islam and oil are the only two that Saudi Arabia produces while she harlots as the Salome during Christ’s first coming luring every Herod to decapitate every Baptist. What few know is that according to Josephus, John the Baptist was not beheaded in Jordan but in Arabia. This is significant.

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Oil is so crucial that even God addressed it in a time when it was insignificant: “And the streams of Edom shall be turned to pitch and her soil to sulphur; Her land shall become burning pitch; Night and day it shall not be quenched and its smoke shall go up forever; From generation to generation it shall lie waste; No one shall pass through it, forever and ever”. [Isaiah 34:9-10]

Note the reference to pitch, which is a by-product of oil, and Saudi Arabia has the world’s largest reserves of oil. It will be totally destroyed. And to all who want to argue that “Edom” here is Jordan, perhaps they might take such an argument to God: “I will stretch out my hand against Edom and cut off from it humans and animals, and I will make it desolate; from Teman to Dedan they shall fall by the sword”. [Ezekiel 25:13] God’s hand or arm is Messiah (see Isaiah 53 “to whom has the arm [Messiah, God’s right arm] of the Lord been revealed”)


Secondly, from an Islamic perspective Jalal al-Din Rumi, by far the most prestigious sufi scholar in Islam’s entire history, explained how Mecca (the Kiblah in Islam) will be no more the direction of prayers to Muslims:

the Light of God to face the wall of the prayer niche (direction of prayer) has assuredly turned his back on Mecca, since God’s Light is the soul of the Kiblah [the Ka’bah] (Rumi, Service done for God is proof of divine favor, in The Complete Discourses of Jalal al-Din Rumi, discourse 3, p. 17, ed. Louis Rogers)

This is quite telling; what its saying is that the Muslim leader becomes the Kiblah, or the person to whom Muslims would pray towards him. Therefore, a Muslim leader, a Caliph can declare that he is the light of God, and Muslims from all over the world will pray towards him; he will become the new Kiblah, with the multitudes of Muslims praying to his direction.

How all this will come about, we shall make it simple for a shepherd to understand. With about 20 percent of the world’s proven oil reserves and producing between 10 and 13 percent of the global oil usage, Saudi Arabia is the world’s leading oil producer ahead of the U.S., China, Iran and Canada. Perhaps more importantly, with its developed and easily accessible oil fields, Saudi Arabia has some of the lowest “lifting costs” in the world. Some estimate that it only costs the Saudis less than $5 to extract a barrel of oil from its fields. This is stark contrast to the much higher costs in rival countries and offshore and of shale producers. This permits the Saudis to withstand a protracted price slump far easier than other countries. The Saudis can use this ability as a weapon to achieve its strategic ends.

While the current dip in energy prices clearly does hurt Saudi Arabia, it thinks that it hurts her enemies far more, particularly Iran and Russia, which has been a key enabler of Iranian power and an international pariah on its own. Putting pressure on Russia has also become a key strategic interest of Washington. Petroleum sales are 50% of Russia’s income, and are also central for Iran and Iraq.

The Saudis are using cheap oil to wreck Iran’s economy and discourage American energy exploration. The latter doesn’t seem to be working too well, but the former sure is. (via Religion of Peace)

The Saudi approach is clever because it devalues Iranian exports. Unlike sanctions, there’s no point in smuggling out anything when you’ve devalued the entire product. The Saudis have the resources, the deep pockets and the network to do something like this and while it won’t stop Iran’s nuclear program, it will cause assorted problems, not least by making the whole empty spectacle of negotiations appear worthless.

Riyadh is “flooding the market,” a technique it has used in the past, of pumping a lot of oil even in the face of weakening market demand, thus driving the price down.

Saudi Arabia is annoyed at Russia over Moscow’s support for the Bashar al-Assad regime in Damascus  which supports the US in the latter’s annoyance with Russia over Ukraine.  Saudi is also perpetually annoyed with Iran, its Shiite rival that also supports al-Assad and the civilian nuclear enrichment program of which it fears for its dual-use, weapons potential.  And Saudi Arabia is threatened by the rise of hydraulic fracturing as a way to produce petroleum, which detracts from the centrality of the vast Saudi reserves, the very element which made her sleep at night thinking that she has no end.

But all this has a price, Saudi Arabia is ticking off not only Russia, Iraq and Iran, its arch enemies, a two-day meeting hosted by Oman last week broke up in acrimony, with opposing sides at odds over the slump in oil prices.

The Saudi delegation, led by Muqrin bin Abdulaziz al-Saud, the kingdom’s deputy crown prince and former spy chief, dismissed Iranian pleas to rein in oil production and stabilise the market.


A general view for the annual summit of Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) in Doha, Qatar, 09 December 2014. Doha is hosting the two-day GCC summit following a diplomatic row that marred relations between Qatar on one side and Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain on the other. The three Gulf states announced in November they are sending back their ambassadors to Qatar, eight months after withdrawing them in a spat over the emirate’s support of the Muslim Brotherhood. EPA/ALI HAIDER

Since the first oil shocks following the 1973 Middle East War, the Saudis have understood the role they can play in regional and world affairs by turning the taps on and off.

But Saudi Arabia’s poker game is loosing her lovers, recently, as the US upped its production, it would have been reasonable to assume that Saudi would have correspondingly cut surplus supply to maintain a healthy balance sheet. But instead Riyadh has done the opposite.

From Riyadh the world looks like a grim place, and the Saudis have a host of concerns that they feel are not being addressed adequately, either by their allies in the West or by their partners in the region, her end is near and her doom is certain.

Many experts talk of a Cold War between Saudi and Iran, where on every major issue of regional concern an Iranian gain is viewed by the Saudis as a loss, and for the House of Al Saud alarm bells are ringing.

In their view the US has effectively caved in, and allowed Iran off the hook.

The Iranians were not supposed to be allowed any domestic uranium enrichment capacity, let alone get paid $7bn for the privilege.


For the Saudis, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani is the friendly face of a regime it does not trust

The Arab Gulf countries additionally expressed their political backing for Egypt’s President Abdel-Fattah al-Sisi. It marks a pivot for Qatar, which backed former Islamist President Mohammed Morsi, who al-Sisi ousted from power amid widespread protests last year when he was defense minister.

Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Bahrain formally withdrew their ambassadors from Qatar in March in a move widely seen as a protest over Doha’s support for Islamist groups like the Muslim Brotherhood, of which Morsi was a leading member. They reinstated ambassadors last month after an agreement was reached.

Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the UAE consider the Brotherhood a “terrorist group” and see the 86 year-old movement as a political threat and to Turkey the Brotherhood is its key to get back at Egypt. Turkey also has become an x-lover which will also chime in at Saudi Arabia’s destruction.

Yet the US and Europeans have spent months looking at ways to creatively offer Iran’s “moderate” President Hassan Rouhani economic crumbs to appease the hardliners back in Tehran, yet to no avail.

For the Saudis the mild mannered Rouhani is friendly manifestation of a regime that seeks to dominate the Middle East, and which is trying desperately to be accepted by the world.

Iran’s reach across the Middle East region worries Saudi even more than its nuclear programme.

In Iraq, Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) has to assist northern areas of Iraq, including Kurdish border regions or else ISIS would be rampant in all but the most distinctly Shia regions of the country. So between ISIS and Iran, Saudi Arabia must deal not with one, but two enemies. In Syria, as the US-led coalition strikes ISIS, the pressure on Iranian ally Bashar al-Assad appears to have lifted to help fight the bigger threat of ISIS which boosts Iran, Saudi’s enemy even further. Propped up by Iranian money and proxies such as Hezbollah, and cushioned with Security Council support by Russia, Assad looks to be safe, for now until Turkey arises to consume much flesh in Syria and Egypt, but even that still brings even a greater enemy to Saudi’s Adam’s apple, Turkey.

To make matters worse on the Kingdom’s southern and eastern borders,Shia rebels in Yemen, and protestors in Bahrain, only contribute to the sense that the Kingdom is being strangled by Iranian power from all sides.

In the midst of the chaos from which Iran seems to be profiting so well, Saudi Arabia has taken the decision that it has to hit back. And given that Riyadh would prefer not to be drawn into a military confrontation with the Iranians, it has had to seek other ways to confront Iran. The easy way it can do this is by picking Tehran’s back pocket.

Iran’s economy is heavily reliant on hydrocarbons, which make up some 60% of its export revenue and provided 25% of total GDP in 2013. Deeply committed to the fight in Syria, and Iraq, the Iranians are spending untold millions of dollars a month to maintain their operations in the two countries, all the while attempting to placate potential domestic unrest. Interestingly, the Iranians proposed cutting Opec output ahead of the November conference only for the Saudis to rebuff them.

Additionally, the Saudis get a chance to deal Russia, Bashar al-Assad’s stalwart ally, a bloody nose, by driving down the cost of oil and hurting Moscow’s hydrocarbon revenue streams, which prop up a shaky domestic economy. As oil prices have fallen so has the value of Russia’s Rouble, plummeting 35% since June. Killing two birds with one stone would seem a smart policy, especially since it is highly unlikely to result in the sort of military escalation the Saudis wish to avoid. But Russia’s ally, Iran is key for Russia to get back at Saudi Arabia which the Iranians see Wahhabism as the main reason Shiites are getting beheaded by ISIS.

The Shiites, the lovers of Ali, Muhammad’s nephew are screaming out. “Ali is the vicar of Allah” the song goes which permeates the language of the streets in Tehran and Iraq. “We will defeat our opponent and we will uproot that evil state” is Saudi Arabia. “The anger of Ali is exploding, Allahu Akbar, we came to renew Khaybar, we have pin-pointed our target”. This target is Saudi Arabia. Khaybar is Saudi Arabia. It is the move of Elam to annihilate Arabia as predicted by the ancient Jewish prophet Isaiah in chapter 21:

“The burden against Dumah” (Isaiah 21:11)
“The burden against Arabia” (Isaiah 21:13)
“All the glory of Kedar will fail” (Isaiah 21:16)

These are all in Arabia, which is destroyed by Iran “Elam” (Isaiah 21:2). So crucial is this prophecy that Isaiah levels a prophetic oracle against it calling Arabia “Babylon” using the same announcement in Revelation 18:1-2 and Revelation 14:8: “Babylon is fallen, is fallen”.

So where are the false prophets whom by equating the United States with ‘Mystery Babylon’ yet hating their own nation, the United States, proclaimed doom on their own country while proclaiming they serve God? The United States gave us converts from Islam our freedom, a nation worthy to fight for, even for a foreigner like myself. Shame on all these false prophets, have them face us in such debate and we will expose them, yet none of them will come forth. Our enemy is Saudi Arabia, not Rome or New York. Who dares to compare Protestant arguments with Rome over Catholicism to even compare to the divide between Elam (Shiite Iran) and Arabia which is in Scripture? And where are all the theologians discussing this part of Scripture? Was Elam mentioned regarding a historic event in ancient Babylon when its right in front of our faces on news and video of the masses culminating for war?

How long can you, this harlot, Saudi Arabia keep your game up? Realistically a few months, but if the price of oil keeps falling you have to rethink your strategy? Eventually you will pay the price for the Baptist St. John the Revelator for His blood still cries out through Smerna  and the Armenians who are in heaven. God will direct the very people who shed their blood to shed yours and dash your little ones against the rocks:

Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction,

happy is the one who repays you

according to what you have done to us.

Happy is the one who seizes your infants

and dashes them against the rocks. (Psalms 137-8-9)

Sure, Saudi has a few years. The Kingdom sits on $741bn of currency reserves and posted a $15bn surplus at the end of last fiscal year, and the Saudis can absorb the cost of budget deficits for a few years if needs be. But this cannot last indefinitely Saudi Arabia had a recent mega-arms purchases which has been completed and the Kingdom’s future defence expenditure is projected to fall in the coming two or three years in order to free up cash for other endeavors. And although Riyadh has tried to stamp its authority on the region, which will undoubtedly cause headaches in Tehran and Moscow, the oil weapon cannot reverse some of the more critical issues facing the region, especially that now ISIS runs an entity roughly the size of Britain across Iraq and Syria, its hostility to the “Al Salool” (a derogatory term for the Al Saud family) recently made clear in a 17 minute speech by its Caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. And then we have the cheap oil from ISIS territory will continue to flow, earning ISIS millions a day in revenue, and although the Saudis have had notable success in striking ISIS targets, it is not enough to ensure their defeat unless the US and Iran openly cooperate to solve the issue, which may result in grudging acquiescence from the Riyadh.

Likewise, the Saudis will have to grudgingly accept that some form of deal between Iran and the P5+1 (US, Russia, China, UK, France and Germany) will have to be struck, if regional war is to be avoided. It is the best of a bad series of options, and recent attempts by the Saudis to diplomatically engage their Iranian counterparts, particularly on regional security issues like Islamic State appear to be positive. But the mistrust is still deep, and the threat of ISIS appears not to have stopped the Kingdom in its drive to blunt Iran. (See BBC Report)

Nothing shows the confusion in regional security matters more than the on-off Iranian-American military relationship in fighting ISIS. The remarkable American acquiescence over Iran’s participation in the fight against ISIS in Iraq over the past few months can only be matched by a future fallout when the war against ISIS moves to Syria and Iran backs the Al Assad government against the coalition. The scale of the threats flying around the Gulf and the Levant means that there is broad agreement that this dangerous security situation needs to be handled by a yet-to-be-agreed “regional security architecture”. But there is no agreement on how such an alliance can be built.

This debate was a major theme running though the recent Manama Dialogue organised by the International Institute of Strategic Studies in Bahrain last week, where some argued that key players Saudi Arabia and Iran needed to start a bilateral process. But they acknowledged that that would require a totally new level of trust between the two regional powers. Does anyone expect Shiites and Sunnis who agreed never to agree, to agree anytime soon? Others took an even more ambitious look at a wider process involving the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), Iran and Iraq, and anyone else within shouting distance, which may also include Egypt and Turkey.

For Saudi Arabia, a Houthi takeover of western Yemen is a major danger. Adnan al-Hashem, a researcher in the Gulf of Iranian affairs and politics says that the “Iranians are looking for a foothold in the Arabian Peninsula to put pressure on the Saudis, and to be close to the Strait of Bab el Mandeb in the event of war.” Israel also cannot remain indifferent to the new Iranian stronghold on the seaway that connects it to Africa and Asia.

For anyone who doubts, Saudi Arabia is doomed, just look around the region, the threat environment has changed dramatically, the Gulf states are facing a three-front war from chaos in Syria and Iraq, violence that is headline news in every household in the Gulf and on Saudi Arabia’s southern border with Yemen, there is another uprising, where Houthis, Shiite rebels linked to Iran, recently swept into the capital, Sanaa and on Egypt’s border with Libya, ISIS supporters, led by a Saudi preacher, have captured the northeastern town of Derna and declared allegiance to the so-called ISIS-created caliphate. Experts add that the control of the port of Hodeidah makes Shi’ite Iran and behind the major players in the Red Sea, and is not excluded that the Iranian leadership looming control of navigation through international Bab al-Mandab as what is going on with the Strait of Hormuz in the east.


All this caused Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states to realize that a noose is getting tighter and have caused them to develop a new aggressive posture since the U.S. is pulling back from the region and that U.S. relations with Iran are warming up. Gulf leaders are now on the front line of the ISIS threat at home, a threat understood there much better than in Washington.

Our detractors who focus mostly on Iran listening to Netanyahu’s outcries fearing Iran’s influence do not understand, God is in control over Israel’s destiny, He is first moving the chips to take care of the real causer of all the suffering, Saudi Arabia.

And now with U.S. oil companies having invested heavily in horizontal oil drilling and so-called fracking to increase well yields. U.S. domestic oil production has risen significantly over the past five years and now approaches 8 million barrels per day based on data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA).

In conclusion, history is the best lesson. Saudi Arabia’s move will backfire. For example, the reduction in Saudi Arabia for oil prices which was used to pressure Saddam Hussein which led the occupation of Kuwait which led to his ouster which led to the destruction of his country which led to the emergence of a Iraqi leadership that is hostile to and loyal to Iran which threatens Saudi stability and the entire demographic makeup of the region. Ticking off Putin is not the same as ticking off Boris Yeltsin, Russia has a junkyard dog that will be unleashed in time; Iran.

In the meanwhile, Christ love for His bride must be heard in Divna Ljubojevic’s beautiful voice in Hebrew style in The Song of Solomon:


SONG OF SOLOMON I opened for my beloved, but my beloved had hidden and was gone; my soul went out when he spoke; I sought him, but found him not; I called him, but he did not answer me (Shir HaShirim, 5:6 ) What is your beloved more than another beloved, O fairest of women? What is your beloved more than another beloved, that you have so adjured us? (Shir HaShirim, 5:9) His eyes are like doves beside rivulets of water, bathing in milk, fitly set. (Shir HaShirim, 5:12) I adjure you, O daughters of Jerusalem, if you find my beloved, what will you tell him? That I am lovesick. (Shir HaShirim, 5:8 ) What is your beloved more than another beloved, O fairest of women? What is your beloved more than another beloved, that you have so adjured us? (Shir HaShirim, 5:9) His palate is sweet, and he is altogether desirable; this is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem

  • Linda Murray

    THIS is where you TRULY shine, Walid! thank you.

    • shoebat

      You too Linda, even though your photo looks nothing like a Linda.

      • Linda Murray

        LOLOL 😀 That’s a picture of my son Leroy. He was killed in 2002 at the age of 21. I use his picture so I can see his beautiful face every day! 🙂 (Besides… my picture looks like a fat, ugly 67 year old woman.) LOL 😀

        Leroy was born again & I WISH he could have seen your videos. He would have REJOICED in them & in your salvation!

        • momprayn

          Aw….so sad to hear – yes, he HAS a beautiful face and I’m sure it’s even more so and glowing in heaven – much happier than us down here yet….

          • Linda Murray

            Thank you mom. 🙂 Yes… I’m sure he is much happier there. I’m looking forward SOOO much to joining him one day. 🙂

        • shoebat

          I’m sorry so you are a Linda. Your son is handsome. I am so sorry to hear that. I apologize Linda. Please forgive me.

          • Linda Murray

            That’s quite alright, Walid. Thank you so much, too for you kind words. 🙂 And thank you so much for educating us on islam & the prophecy. I drink in your videos like they are ice water in the desert. It’s AMAZING! 🙂

          • andrea

            Sorry about your loss Linda for now. That will be wonderful to be with your son forever again one day. You are a person I would love to know.

        • Julie LaBrecque

          Linda, please don’t refer to yourself as fat or ugly, God made us just the way He wanted us and we are all beautiful in His eyes. I’m truly sorry for your loss and suffering. May God bless your home.

          • Linda Murray

            Thank you for your kind words, Julie. 🙂 It took a long time but I made it through. but I am still fat & ugly… but I don’t mind! 😀 LOLOL It gives me a lot of opportunity to make funny ‘fat’ jokes! 😀 😉

            (You can’t tell it in a faceless forum but if you talked to me in person you’d see that I’m the biggest jokester in town.) LOLOL 😀

        • Tom_mcewen

          Bone of your bone and flesh of your flesh. sorry for your loss.

          • Linda Murray

            Yes, Tom… he is. I do miss him still, very much. Thank you for your thoughts. 🙂

        • David Harding

          God Bless you Linda

        • Marco Vincent

          May GOD bless his soul. Amen.

        • Dan Knight

          We will keep Leroy in our prayers too. God Bless you, Linda.

          • Linda Murray

            To everyone… thank you all for you blessings & prayers. I love you all. 🙂

        • dovari

          Feeling sorry for your loss, Linda.
          God be your comfort.

        • susan

          Linda, I don’t see that we’ll and so I never noticed that in your tiny square was the image of such a handsome young man. I’m sure you must long for him. And such a kind young man would have helped his mother! Is there anything that I can pray for you?

        • Kamau40

          I’m truly sorry about your loss. May The Lord continue to bless you and your home.

  • Grandmere

    Reading the news today made my hair stand on end and now this post brings all the pieces together. Things are moving ever faster. Hold on kids. It’s about to get wild.

    • shoebat

      What news Grandmere? You have some good stuff your not sharing? Comon now, its not fair 😉

  • 1Bobby8

    The pieces are falling into place. Thank you Walid for this very informative piece and for guiding us through these very precarious times…God bless

  • RodK1975

    I would gladly pay $5 a gallon for gas that was refined on US soil from crude or shale that was extracted from US soil.

    • The good thing is that you won’t have to. Those doing shale exploration and fracking are laying out the costs up-front, and won’t have to do it again. The price may go down to $2 a gallon, which would liven up the economy again.

      • RodK1975

        😉 Absolutely. We’d put the Saudis out of business shortly and crank up this economy if we can get the present government and EPA out of the way and then it really would be on in the Middle East.

      • Julie LaBrecque

        Rudy, here in Oklahoma and other US oil-producing states, $2 a gallon gas (for very long) will be crippling. Deep horizontal-well drillers depend on oil prices hovering around $70 @ barrel to be profitable; if this price decrease lasts for very long, drillers will lay their rigs down, employees laid off, recession follows. It’s a no-win situation for us.

        • Grandmere

          Thank goodness the Oklahoma producers have access to a pipeline. The producers in N. Dakota have to truck the crude out and offload into rail cars. Imagine what that does to their cost of production.

          • susan

            Grandmothers do you know how Texas and Louisiana fare with oil production?

          • Grandmere

            The Permian Basin in west Texas is very active and they are working shale in Arkansas. Chevron just had a huge strike in the Gulf of Mexico. They expect 94,000 barrels a day for thirty years plus trillions of feet of natural gas. New Mexico is slowing already due to the price. Hope this helps.

          • susan

            Thank you 🙂

    • David Harding

      I agree! It is written some where that he who gets involved in the argument of others takes a dog by the ears…..he will also get bitten.

  • AnthonyM

    Excellent article, Walid! We be lost without your insight.

    This headline recently caught my attention: ‘An Arab Prince Denounces Islamism’. Islamism.

  • tbrown1850

    Thanks Walid for you insights, I’ve often wondered about the ref’s to Arabia in Isaiah. Seems like Israel’s recent discovery of large quantities of gas and oil will make them a target for Russia on the prowl. Sounds like Ezek 38-39.

  • RodK1975

    Yes, Grandmere. I believe it was George Washington that quite prophetically warned about making foreign alliances. This is surely one the US made a huge mistake in making. We’re also suppose to have like a 50 year supply of oil in the strategic oil reserves. Makes you wonder though.

  • susan

    Walid, I learn so many new things, it’s amazing,! I never knew that John the Baptist was beheaded in Arabia. You are such a good Shepard to us! I can hardly wait for the next revelation! I love that part of Songs of Solomon, but it’s a blank black screen. I keep reloading and touching it but nothing happens. Maybe I can find it on YouTube.

    • shoebat


      You got to get your computer fixed. I wanted you to see Ted’s gay bakery denying him his right to have traditional marriage cake. Its hilarious.

      So now you know that John the Baptist got beheaded in Arabia and why.

      • susan

        Computer is up and running faster! I laughed so much at Ted. He’s so good natured and trying in a kind way to get his cake and they aren’t going to make it!!! What a bunch of hypocrites!
        Loved Song of Songs! What an amazing voice and the song….ahhh, I can’t wait!!!:-)

      • susan

        I’m living in the boonies. 😉

  • Julie LaBrecque

    The earth has warmed (and cooled) eons before fossil fuels were used. This earth will be suitable for human habitation as long as the Good Lord intends. The worst pollution we have in this world is the wholesale slaughter of in-utero babies. Where is our government on this? Let the slaughter continue.

    • Tom_mcewen

      I grew up on a farm, we drilled a well for water, dug outhouses, chopped wood to cook and heat, kerosene for light. They do not understand how hard that life is. It is work to survive, it not throwing a switch, to cook breakfast you could cut off your leg.

    • Marco Vincent

      While its true man can screw up nature, but its also true that nature has a way to “balance” itself. And modern man mostly are unprepared with this. Remember that promise GOD made in Genesis?With the Rainbow?

      Genesis 9:13-18 New International Version (NIV)

      13 I have set my rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and the earth. 14 Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, 15 I will remember my covenant between me and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life. 16 Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth.”

      17 So God said to Noah, “This is the sign of the covenant I have established between me and all life on the earth.”

      GOD will never wipe out all life on earth again. and HIS promise is eternal.

      GOD even teach how mankind should do agriculture the RIGHT way:

      Exodus 23:11New International Version (NIV)

      11 but during the seventh year let the land lie unplowed and unused. Then the poor among your people may get food from it, and the wild animals may eat what is left. Do the same with your vineyard and your olive grove.

      Its called the Sabbatical year. Its common knowledge among farmers not to overuse the soil as it would strain it and become barren and if pushed than farmers must rely heavily on fertilizers that would drove the land to become porous, unable to hold water.

      But alas many has forgotten the many good advice in the Bible provided.
      A good example of this : does GOD hate shrimp? NO…the advice / ban to eat shrimp was because the simple fact…no one in the Middle East at that time know how to cook shrimp properly and any body with half a brain know if you cook / process shrimp improperly you get sick. And the way of cooking is also important…some combination would end up with dishes with high cholesterol.
      Shrimp are also food to many type of fishes so over fishing shrimp would deprived many fishes from their food.
      See…GOD thought really thoroughly about many things.

      Doesnt this conflicted with Jesus’s view to eat freely? NO, because Jesus knew the food ban were all about health and cleanliness/sanitary , and people were much more clever by the time of Christ to realize that simple truth.

      Sorry about my rant, what I wanna say is that I trust GOD and REAL science…not junk science.
      Hope this helps.
      GOD bless you. Amen.

      • Trevor

        GOD will never wipe out all life on earth again. and HIS promise is eternal.

        Ah, ah. Back the truck up a bit.

        Did God say He wouldn’t wipe out the earth? He said He would not allow the earth to be destroyed with the flood, but never said anything about with fire.

        The real “global warming” will come, and it won’t be like what scientists think will happen. Oh no. It will be on a far and worse scale than they could even fathom. Revelation holds the key as well as Peter’s little apocalyptic passage in his epistle. It will happen, I think, right after the Great White Throne Judgement when everything on earth, the heavens, and maybe the universe itself be burned up in favor everything spanky brand new.

  • Tom_mcewen

    Strange looks like early morning fog, not smog. you lose

    • Emg MG

      Thanks for the comment. It is in China, is smoke, youtube searches the most polluted cities in the world, you see it with your own eyes …

      • Tom_mcewen

        Sorry, I am gun shy, they showed the smoke from a reactor back lit as smoke when it was water vapor, and the 97% is charlie Romeo Alfa Papa, I work with the Czech Academy of Science, you could not get 97% of them to order Chicken for lunch.

        • susan

          Lol!!! So polite you are;-)

  • Owen Schumacher

    Thanks, Walid, for proving wrong the “America is Babylon” crowd. America has its sin, but it’s NOT Saudi Arabia—the INVENTOR of Islam, the killer of the saints. God bless America!

  • shoebat

    All I did Marcel was read the Bible and read the news. Sort of like ForrestGump, I read and started running.

  • David Harding

    “You too Linda, even though your photo looks nothing like a Linda.” You Walid are truly a joy in this world! God Bless you! Loved the study, and hope to meet you one day, YHWH willing!

  • Trevor

    So, the Saudi have managed to pretty much paint themselves into a corner, and now they are desperate. Uh-huh. Know what would be even better?

    For the United States to declare they are ending all relations with Saudi Arabia, brand them as a sponsor of terrorism, and then declare that the United States will work hard on producing it’s own oil, continue the development of a hybrid fossil-alternative energy system (hey, I’m for alternative energy if it wasn’t so dang expensive!), and develop an energy/economy/military alliance with Russia and China.

    I am also curious if Israel’s discovery of a giant reserve of natural gas will also change the equation for the future. Could that be the hook in Ezekiel prophecy jaw that we are looking for? Or is it the destruction of Mecca, and the declaration that Jerusalem is now Muslims’ holy city? There’s quite a few more pieces of the puzzle left to fit.

    I do get the feeling that time is short for many, many folks.

    • susan

      An Othodox Jew who is dead now, but left a letter to be opened one year after his death. The letter had the symbol of crosses and Jesus as the Messiah. This caused quite a shock to the community. He also claimed to have seen the Messiah. He mentioned the Ezekiel hook too. Since I can’t remember the exact wording I won’t write it here. I saved a clipping somewhere.

      • Trevor

        I will be interested to see that clipping.

        • susan

          “The Rabbi who found Messiah” by Carl Gallups. The Rabbis name is Yitzhak Kaduri. His funeral was huge.

      • momprayn

        Yes, there has been a lot of that posted at WND site. Here’s the latest – excerpts:

        “An unexpected Christian revival is taking place in Israel, with a Messianic Jewish leader using a Baptist preacher’s book to lead Jews to faith in Jesus as Savior of Israel’s most venerated spiritual leaders, Kaduri, who died at the age of 108 in 2006 and left behind a letter with instructions to open it one year after his death.

        In 2007, two Israeli news publications, Israel Today and News First Class, reported Kaduri’s cryptic death note revealed the name of the long-awaited Messiah.

        A year after the rabbi’s death, the note was reported to have been verified as authentic by some of Kaduri’s closest followers, ..The purported Kaduri message proclaimed Messiah’s name was Yehoshua, or Jesus.

        “This amazing book is leading people to the written word of God. The Holy Spirit is opening their eyes to the truth of salvation available only through Messiah Yeshua (Jesus),” he said.

        Porat told ..of a recent opportunity to evangelize using the book’s message.

        “A Jew named Uzi came up to me and said: ‘I heard you speaking to people about the New Covenant. That is blasphemy. As a Jew, how can you do this?’ I told Uzi, ‘The promise of a New Covenant is in the Jewish Bible! Let’s read together.’ Uzi was still upset and kept saying ‘It’s blasphemy – I won’t read it!’ It was at that moment I felt led by the Holy Spirit to take out the book, ‘The Rabbi Who Found Messiah.’ When Uzi saw the picture of Rabbi Kaduri on the cover, he immediately recognized Kaduri and was drawn like a magnet to the book. This is the same reaction that so many in Israel have to the book. Uzi asked me: ‘What is the book about?’ I said to him, ‘So you know Rabbi Kaduri?’ Uzi replied, ‘He was the greatest rabbi ever. Some say since the time of Moses no one has been greater.’ I then told Uzi, ‘The book is about Rabbi Kaduri’s life and how he met the Messiah of Israel.’”

        “It was amazing that Uzi was so upset at the beginning and refused to read anything in the Bible about the New Covenant, but he was now totally captivated by the book about Rabbi Kaduri. He then wanted to see in the Bible where it talked about a New Covenant. I took him to Jeremiah 31: 31-34.”

        Porat said he read the passage to him in Hebrew, which says:

        31 “Behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, 32 not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the Lord. 33 “But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the Lord, “I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares the Lord, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”

        “I then took Uzi to Isaiah 53 and Psalm 22, again we read the passages in Hebrew. Uzi was overwhelmed. He became speechless. I could see the Holy Spirit of God moving in Uzi’s life. It was a supernatural experience! He went from yelling at me and accusing me of blasphemy and declaring that the concept of the New Covenant was not Jewish – to reading the scriptures and thinking about the reality of the New Covenant and Yeshua as Messiah – and then studying the Word of God with me for hours! Over and over, this is how the Lord is using the book ‘The Rabbi Who Found Messiah’ to lead Jews to the scriptures and then to the gospel – and often to Jesus Christ as Messiah and Lord!”

        He continued: “I told Uzi, ‘Rabbi Kaduri believed that Yeshua is the Messiah. If you want to be a completed Jew, this is the only way – through Jesus Christ.’ Uzi replied, ‘This is so much to grasp but why is it that no one knows about it? Tell me.’ I answered, ‘The rabbis don’t want you to see this so they suppress the truth.’ It is amazing how many times this question is asked of me, and how often I have to give this answer. The Jewish people of Israel are astounded, and some of them quite upset, when they learn that the rabbis have kept this amazing information from them.”

  • Tom_mcewen

    Iran offered to slow their uranium enrichment if the US read Obama gave it some money, well, the money was used to increase the number of enrichment centrifuges up to 1900, they work by making the uranium mixture into a hot gas and spinning at high speed to separate the heavier atoms from the lighter, thereby enriching the mixture over and over. Some believe in Iran they have to push the end of the world if the judge is to come. This is not good. There are two ways to arm and fire a nuclear weapon, one is simple use a naval 5 inch 38 gun and fire a plug into machined core of uranium. The other is more complex it envolves hexagon shaped pieces of plastic explosives fired in layers, this is controlled by the discharge of precision capacitors (Krytrons, Sprytron, foil slapper), firing in the nano-secounds firing each layer to keep the core together long enough to produce tunable fission. These are highly restricted for sales to foreign powers. I am sure someone in the White House can get them a freight car full.

  • Grandmere

    Are you declaring yourself a prophet? Better not get even one little word wrong. Take a minute to think it over.

  • Grandmere

    The only thing that will bring permanent peace is the return of Jesus Christ. The Muslims will wake up when they find themselves on their knees, declaring that Jesus Christ is Lord. It will be too late for redemption.

    • Trevor

      The only thing that will bring permanent peace is the return of Jesus Christ.

      Yes and no.

      Hear me out. In Psalms 2, it is said that Jesus would rule the nations with rod of iron. In Revelation 2:27, Jesus told to those in the church of Thyatria that those who overcome with rule with Jesus with rod of iron. In other words, those people ruling with Jesus will authority to put down rebellion with no discussion, no ACLU filing injunctions, no military power on earth will be able to overthrow King Jesus, nor will there be anybody able to overcome the resurrect saints.

      When the 1,000 years are up, Satan will be loosened from the bottomless pit, and will deceive the nations once more for one final hurrah before being destroyed finally by God the Father Himself.

      The Eternal Peace will be immediately after the Great White Throne Judgement, in my opinion.

  • RodK1975

    Just what I figured, Thanks, Grandmere!

  • shoebat

    I meant to ask you Countryflowers, do you believe in the apparitions of Mary?

  • shoebat

    They do this in lamentations for Hassan and Hussein, Muhammad’s grandsons from Ali who were killed by the Sunnis. Ali is the most important name for Shiites because they believe he was the only one who had the right to the throne of Muhammad.

  • Grandmere

    Be very careful and stay very humble. Remember, God resists the proud but lifts up the humble.

  • Eric

    This is excellent, Mr. Shoebat! A lot to read, but well worth it! I loved the paragraph where you blast and pound the Anti-American doom and gloom “Prophecy teachers”, and set them straight! That put a big smile on my face!

  • shoebat

    1) Do you believe in the apparitions of Mary?

    2) I never called you false anything Country Flowers, except that in Mystery Babylon the Bible says is in a “desert” and there are no country flowers in it.

    But you desire to be one who claims that Country Flowers is currently living in Mystery Babylon.

    What can I say?

    Have at it.

  • Tom_mcewen

    It is interesting the Iranian leadership not the people would pull down the end of the world down for everyone for what might be a delusion. They only have to put a nuclear weapon on a tanker and put it next to the transhipping point where the crude is loaded. Once the port is gone the flow ends. If they put trace elements in the bomb they can make unsafe to rebuild. A delivery system is hard to make since it is based on the throw weight of the war head. A MIRV has five warheads each tuneable from 18kt to 450kt. But the Iran war head will be massive. The idea that the Iranians will hit Israel is insane, every Arab knows who ever starts a WMD attack on Israel means every capital within 1500 miles will be radioactive within eight hours. But the Islam religion lets you listen to the voice of a hero in their head, that is why they lose wars, they lie to themselves then their commanders. I was in Saudi when Iraq hit kuwait all the highly paid Saudi military got in their SUVs and went home.

    • Pero Ercegovac

      Tom, I am impressed with your knowledge. Which is normal considering you an airforce guy. No matter what armed forces the air force tends to have more grunts around who actually understand physics and maths. But as a counter-terrorist bloke can I please suggest that you do not give them ideas as from personal experience you would be surprised to know how some simple ideas sometimes are so simple that those who could use them thankfully bypass them and the fact they do read such sites as this one to get intel may give them ideas ;o)

      • Tom_mcewen

        Airforce Guy, No way, N A V Y, the joke is what is the difference between the Air Force and the Boy Scouts? the Boy Scouts have Adult leadership. I was first part of the US army 66-69, then the N A V Y. Then an Engineer then a oil painter/illustrator

        • Tom_mcewen

          That is my father flying off the USS Saratoga CV3 VF-6 in his Boeing F4F2 click on it for full size

        • Pero Ercegovac

          Ha ha ha! Not a bad one. Opa!!! Navy!!! You will then definitely not like this one from the ADF: You know what the difference between the men of the Australian Army and the Royal Navy? Our girlfriends are female ;o) Just kidding, it is an oldy but a goodie and many pub brawl has occurred on ANZAC Day in Oz due to that one. Jokes aside how on earth do those Navy guys land those planes on carriers at sea. Now that takes skill.

    • Marco Vincent

      So in your opinion what will be the type of nukes that Iran tried to produce? Boosted Fission? Staged Thermonuclear? or Pure Fission?

      • Tom_mcewen

        It is my opinion that Iran has had the bomb for some time, they are just making more, each a new generation.

    • susan

      Wow Tom! This is the site that just keeps on giving! I’m in way over my head. Luckily I can float a little if the water is really calm. I appreciate your military insight. Thank you!

  • Marco Vincent

    See, this is what the Saudi’s get when they try to outsmart Russia and China to get back at Iran. Russia and China just need to unleash their “wild dog”–Iran. Clearly this is “art of war” at its finest.

    • susan

      That broom is stirring up one heck of a dust storm!

    • Trevor

      There will be bereavement counselors on stand by to take call…

      Oh wait, the telephone circuits would be jammed, Twitter and Facebook would be overloaded with hash tags like #Boom, and YouTube would be flooded with authentic and alleged “videos” of the destruction.

      In short, it will be 9/11/01 on a far grander scale.

      For Christians world-wide, that will be the signal that King Jesus is on the way with the Calvary!

  • shoebat

    “But I know Satan can appear as an angel of light. So I would be careful about believing them.”

    Why then should I not be careful from believing YOU?

    Especially when you say “To be truthful Walid I don’t know much about them”.

    And neither do I know much about your dreams.

    Case closed.

    • Grandmere


  • Marco Vincent

    BEWARE, the devil is deceiving you by sending false alarms through dreams, believe me, I’ve seen enough good Christians getting too excited with “miracles” , ” tongues” and “inhuman stuff” that they declare themselves to be as holy as Christ, later when peeled through the layers, all of those stuff was proven either human made lies or the devil actual work. Unless it has produced good fruit , its nothing.
    All Marian apparitions produced good fruits and has solid witness and evidence and doesnt conflict with the Bible and dogma. So its true.

    • susan

      You have said a mouthful! I believe in the apparitions of Mary. Be careful countryflowers! Sometimes I’ll have a strange dream. I’ll mention it but that person or persons must go to the Lord themselves or wait to see if my fruit is rotten or good. Remember, it was Eve who was deceived and if you’re a woman, well, you get it. Your dream may just be a bad case of indigestion like mine usually are!!!

  • Grandmere

    Where do you think we would be if Mary had dismissed Gabriel as a manifestation of Satan?

  • shoebat

    Actually I am in a great mood today, no offense.

    Why would I be mad at country flowers? I like you.

  • Trevor

    Lot of that comes from misunderstanding and misinterpreting the prophecies.

    I confess that I fell in that same thinking for a long time until discovering this website. Now that I’m freed of the “western” interpretation of prophecies, I can see why folks think there “world” would be under the sway of the Antichrist.

    The problem is simply this – folks forget that when the prophecies were being recorded thousands years before ships sailed around the globe (proving that the world wasn’t so flat after all), the mindset was the immediate region around Israel was the world, and that’s it. The ancient Israeli knew that the Great Sea (Mediterranean Sea) was their main body of water along with the Red Sea, and several prominent rivers such as the Euphrates River (located mostly in Iraq), so when we read from Revelation which talks about the Sea, it most likely referred to either the Mediterranean Sea or the Red Sea. Anything else beyond that is more than a jumble of mess.

    Second problem – folks do not realize the enormous strain, the massive manpower, and resource required to maintain some kind of law and order for a single country. How in God’s name can a single dictator control the entire globe? It might be possible through the United Nations, but let’s be honest, all the United Nations are good for is nothing more than deadlocked dialogues, bickering, and finger-pointing. I think the Left Behind series might have done more harm than good with the eschatology end-time view. Can the United Nations force Russia, for example, to comply with international laws? Not if they want to risk an open nuclear war.

    Folks also forget a little secret – a doctrine called MAD which stands for Mutal Assured Destruction, something that was developed during the height of the Cold War. In a nutshell, it’s an admission that nuclear powered countries have enough weapons to destroy this world 100 times over, if not more. That’s something God simply cannot allow to happen, lest everything makes God a liar.

    Many within the evangelical movements are calling for an Israeli strike on Iran, which in my redeveloped view wold be a bad, ill advised move. Like I stated to someone earlier, one simply cannot force God’s hand to move beyond His timetable. If Israel move too soon and strike Iran, they are pretty much guarantee a swift retaliation which would spell doomsday for many countries.

    I honestly don’t think Israel has the stomach nor the courage to carry out a suicidal mission like that. Frankly, the evangelicals need to shut up, and pay attention. Iran’s primary target is not Europe (although it could be), nor is it Israel (because Jerusalem is the main prize), it’s what Walid says and I support his theory, Mecca and all of Saudi Arabia.

    Sorry for a tl;dr comment. I’m on my 4th beer and I tend to ramble on about something that strikes my passion.

    • Eric

      This is great, Trevor. Indeed, I never bought into the whole idea that the antichrist can control the whole world, even before I found this site. To me, it felt like that whole idea just made Satan way too powerful. I mean, when I red about some theories about how he would supposedly control the entire world, one that came up was mind-control. Even my own study bible said that he would “be able to bend others to his will” when I checked the commentary. So he can overwrite Free Will? Not even God can do that. That’s when I knew something was off. Also, when I gave it thought, God simply wouldn’t give Satan free reign to just kill and slaughter as many people as he wished. God never gave Satan free reign. In Job, we see Satan ASKING GOD FOR PERMISSION on how he can tempt Job. So why would God suddenly go, “Okay Lucifer! Have fun killing whoever you want and running the entire planet for seven years!” it never made any sense to me.

      My second clue was that the common interpretation that most people have on the end times–where the Antichrist rules the whole world and just slaughters people–inspires fear. God’s word, of all things, should bring us hope rather than fear. Satan feeds on fear. Realizing that right there was proof that such a theory was wrong, I began to my own studies, which lasted for the past three years until I came here.

      Finally, I asked God why such a theory persists, why it is so popular, and He told me, “Eric, Satan loves that idea because it makes people fearful, and it makes him seem far more powerful than he really is.” that made perfect sense to me. I finally understood. That whole idea is just another one of Satan’s tricks.

      • Trevor

        Very good! I am happy to see there’s another western Christian “who gets it.”

        • Eric

          Trust me, trevor. Figuring it out on my own was only thanks to God helping me! I seriously would have been lost if I didn’t ask for any guidance. 🙂 End Times stuff is hard to figure out, and I’m convinced it takes help from the Holy Spirit to figure out. Although God didn’t reveal to me as much as I know now, He DID allow me to discover two things on my own: One, that the Antichrist would be Muslim, and two, that he would not rule the whole word, but just the middle east. That was all I managed to figure out on my own. Then discovered Mr. Shoebat, and things just exploded.

          • Trevor

            Yeah. By reading up on some literatures, I discovered through a scholar’s work (whose work also borderlines on insanity, I might add) and he explained that there were two or three different words in ancient Hebrews for “world.”

            By keeping everything Middle East orientated helped a great deal and is the difference between correct interpretations and fantasy.

          • Eric

            Yes, middle eastern-centered was my first step in the right direction. Since I had grown up learning Latin and Greek–my Mom Homeschooled me and my brother–I had some experience with ancient languages, and yes, we even dabbled in Hebrew. I don’t remember much of the Hebrew–my Latin and Greek skills are still sharp–but I did learn that all three of those languages are far more flowery and expressive than English. Greek is so deep and precise that, knowing that the New Testament was written in Greek, in regards to Revelations, I knew that knowing some of the Greek would help. I realized that when I looked at it in Greek–I have a English-to-Greek bible concordance–I noticed the “Beast” in the Koine Greek that I was looking at is called “it”. “It” is gender-neautral. In other words, according to the Greek, the Beast was a thing, not a person. Why so many english translations refer to the Beast by the Masculine Personal Pronoun of “He” I will never understand. It’s no wonder why people think the Beast of the Sea and the Antichrist are one in the same because for some reason, English Bibles refer to the Beast as “He”–meaning a supposed person–when in the orignal Greek, the Beast is called an “It!” a thing! It lacks gender! The Beast is referred to by a Gender-neurtral modifier–It–and therefore not a person.

            The Beast of the Earth, however IS referred to in the Orignal Greek as “He”. The Beast of the Earth is also called “The False Prophet”. Thus, when you combine all this with previous Old Testament Scriptures, it becomes clear that the Antichrist, Beast of the Earth, and False Prophet are all one in the same. The Beast of the Sea, just going from the orignal Greek alone, by virtue of pronouns used, is never refered to by any masculine or feminine moddofiers, thus proving that The Beast of the Sea is not a person–or the Antichrist–as many think, but rather an empire.

          • Trevor

            Thanks for that! That makes perfect sense.

          • Eric

            No problem, my friend!

  • Trevor

    Don’t waste time with that poster. I tried to reason with her to no avail. Move on.

    • Grandmere

      Now, Trevor. Grandmothers never give up. They get cranky sometimes and tell those kids to stop jumping on the bed and go back to sleep.

      • Trevor

        How well I know. I have lost two grandmothers within a span of two weeks, both on Thursdays (the first on 9/11 and the second two weeks later), but they both were feisty.

  • Trevor

    I think Israel is very much involved. Nearly every geopolitics strategy has to include what to do with Israel. Israel is unique in the Middle East as it is the most stable democracy with a very respected military, and one of the strongest economies of the Middle East. With Israel’s discovery of a vast, untapped natural gas reserve, that might change the balance of power, and the equation dramatically.

  • Trevor

    It’s not a problem. Studying Revelation has been an obsession of mine since reading it when I was a teen. My mother tried to tell me that nobody is ever going to figure it out because of the use of symbolism, metaphor, and not realizing that the Bible was designed to be viewed through a backward-looking lens.

    Proverbs 25:2 – “It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.”

    Think of the Scriptures as a treasure hunt with clues sprinkled throughout with key words.

    John the Revelator repeated many of the Old Testament prophets’ words so the wise and learned could view things through backward-looking lens.

    Then, there’s someone like Walid who comes along and shakes things up. That’s how God works many time. He send someone that goes against the grain of things and shake thing up.

    • Eric

      Trevor, like you, my obsession with studying End Times scriptures started as a teenager. Like many do, I first started off in Revelation, then worked backward. I studied Daniel next. It was from there that I made the Muslim connection, and also the fact that the Antichrist would not rule the whole world as most think.

      Then I began to dabble in Isaiah just for fun, and kept noticing this character only known as “The Assyrian” being mentioned over and over. I skimmed Ezikel and Jeramiah too, and noticed the same thing. I checked my map, and found out where “Assyria” was located, and made another connection. It was small, but I think even before I came here, God had me on the right path in regards to all this stuff.

  • Mick

    Although I agree that Saudi Arabia is going to pay a far bigger price than they expect, i don’t see it being the downfall of the country.
    Nor will the US shale industry survive this war either.
    To suggest the US will win because it’s less of an enemy of God is naive an gives modern day USA far too much credit for being a friend of God.
    As the #1 exporter of pornography, war, and murder upon the earth, the US surely isn’t in God’s good books.
    Methinks you need to have a much closer look at the country in which you live, far beyond your own city or town.