Catalonia Declares Independence From Spain. This Is Only A Sign Of How Europe Is Fragmenting And Heading Towards Another Major War

By Theodore Shoebat

Catalonia just declared independence from Spain. This is only a sign of how Europe is fragmenting and heading towards another major war. In the subject of today’s video, I talk about Catalonia’s separatism, nationalism and the forces behind nationalism, including the Counterjihad movement’s Filip DeWinter and Pamela Geller:

We are witnessing history, we are seeing the incremental steps to the next world war. When you have the fragmentation of something as big as the European Union, expect war. With Europe divided, the most powerful nation in Europe, Germany, will fill in the power vacuum, that means, it will take advantage of the situation and strike militarily. This is what we have been warning about for nearly two years now, that with the fragmentation will come the restoration of a militarist Germany. This is not an article on just Catalonia, but on the full picture as to what is taking place, focusing on the whole forest as opposed to a single tree. We are seeing the breaking down of Europe. This may be one of the most important articles we have ever written. To truly comprehend the situation, Shoebat.com did in depth research on the situation. This article gets somewhat technical, but it is necessary in order to understand the complex network involved in this great conspiracy. 

From witnessing the Arab Spring, we are now witnessing the beginning of the Europe Spring. We remember how, in 2011, when the Syrian revolution first began, we at Shoebat.com were telling people that the revolution was evil, in a time when most in the media were praising the revolt. Now, we are doing the same for the revolutions that are taking place in Europe.

Nearly two years ago, Shoebat.com predicted that Catalonia will secede, stating:

There will be splits within states. Today we have Catalonia, which is fighting for its sovereignty from Spain. This is no longer theory but is already in process. In September of 2015, the coalition of regional separatists won in the elections to the regional parliament. (62 places out of 135). In November, the parliament of Catalonia accepted the resolution of independence of Catalonia from Spain (according to the resolution, within 18 months Catalonia will secede from Spain, during this 18 months the necessary government structures of a new state will be created in Catalonia and a new constitution will be written).

This fragmentation will spread chaos like a wildfire. The former Prime Minister of Italy, Enrico Letta, recently said that the situation in Catalonia could spark chaos throughout Europe. Letta said:

“Europe needs a solution and Europe needs to avoid this chaos — chaos can be like a virus and we need to avoid chaos …We were exiting from the main political problems in Europe and now this Catalonian issue risks bringing a new virus and new chaos”

If Catalonia leaves Spain, it will also leave the EU, and the domino effect will hit Europe — both East and West — and it will only be further fragmented. Esteban Gonzalez Pons, an MEP from Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy’s Popular Party, said:

“If today you let Spain break up with Catalonia, a domino effect will follow across the continent. Instead of a Europe of 27, we will have a non-Europe of mini-states”

Italian politician, Gianni Pittella, warned:

“A unilateral declaration of independence would amount to a further provocation, which would throw oil on the fire after Sunday’s meaningless referendum”

Philippe Lamberts, a Belgian politician, has said that the threats of revolt coming from Catalonia:

“threaten the spirit of European integration, even more than Brexit”

All of these warnings are just nice ways of saying that with fragmentation, will come war.

Europe is fragmenting, as Christendom once fragmented before the eruption of the Thirty Years War in the 17th century. This is the worst crises that Spain has seen in decades, and the Catalonian separatists just keep on going, ignoring the demands of loyalty coming from the Spanish government. As one German report states:

“So far, the Spanish government has failed miserably. Right now, those Catalans who want independence, alongside the region’s state government, are simply pushing ahead with their plan. The Spanish king has intervened but the conflict still continues to intensify. A unilateral declaration of Catalan independence is only days away. Is that legal? Illegal? The Catalan president could care less.”

The same report ends with a warning: “the Spanish crisis could well become a European crisis.”

This is Syria all over again, but only this time its in Europe, and whatever happens in Europe effects the whole earth. This is why we called it, years ago, the Europe Spring. As Shoebat.com wrote in January of this year:

“In the last few years we have seen the Arab Spring poisoned. Today we see the rising European Spring. It is also being poisoned. This European Spring is not about fighting Islamism as these movements currently deceive, but is all about turning the West into neopaganism, fascism, nazism and antisemitism.”

The Spanish government just released an apology to Catalonian protestors beaten up by Spanish police. This apology will not help to calm the situation. It will only embolden the rebels as they see the apology as a show of weakness. This can be compared to Assad’s attempt to bring peace to his country, when all it did was embolden the forces (the US, NATO and their Sunni allies) that wanted to get rid of him, and who saw Assad’s cordialness as weakness.   

The Catalonians are not stopping. They want to declare independence from Spain, and have planned a meeting for Tuesday to make this declaration. Initially, they made the meeting for Monday, but just on Thursday, Spain’s highest court suspended the Catalonian parliament’s Monday’s meeting, in trying to prevent Catalan President Carlos Puigdemont’s expected declaration of independence. But the Catalonians are not backing down. Carme Forcadell, the president of Catalonia’s Parliament, told reporters:

”We are considering what to do … I can assure you that we will defend the sovereignty of the Parliament and the freedom of speech, as well as the lawmakers’ right of initiative. … We will not allow censorship into this Parliament”

Carme Forcadell

Catalan foreign affairs chief Raül Romeva, said that the Catalonian’s parliament meeting on independence will go on, saying:

“Parliament will discuss, parliament will meet… Every attempt the Spanish government has used to impede things to happen, they have been demonstrated completely not only useless but counter-productive”

Raül Romeva

When asked by CNN if the Catalan government will obey the Spanish government, Carlos Puigdemont said,

“That is for Parliament to decide. But the Constitutional Court has no right to impede a democratic parliament session, which by law is inviolable.”

Carlos Puigdemont

Major companies in Catalonia are already starting to leave. According to one report, “Gas Natural Fenosa and Dogi International Fabrics said Friday they were moving their legal bases from Catalonia’s capital, Barcelona.”

The biggest banks even know that major unrest is on the way. Catalan’s biggest banks are now talking about leaving Catalan in the midst of the referendum to secede from Spain. Spain’s fifth largest bank, Banco Sabadell SA, already confirmed on Thursday that it will be leaving Catalan and resettling in Alicante. The board for CaixaBank SA has already said that it will be leaving Catalonia for Valencia “in light of the current political and social situation in Catalonia.” 

This is not for no reason.

If banks are leaving Catalonia, that means they know that secession is going to happen, or at least that major instability is going to commence.

If you want to know the future, just look at the banks. The ones who control the money, control the world. Willem Buiter, chief economist at Citi Bank, told CNBC on Wednesday:

“the Europe of regions is making a comeback.”

One report from Laura Smith-Spark states that the decision by Banco Sabadell SA to leave Catalan signifies the growing tensions between Catalonia and Madrid:

“Another sign of tensions was the decision of Banco Sabadell, one of Catalonia’s largest banks, to move its registration outside the Catalonia region to the eastern city of Alicante, the bank said in a statement.”

The idea of breaking nations into regions, or “regionalism,” will be becoming more and more of a headline in the near future. After Brexit, other secessionists of Europe were inspired, knowing that they, too, could succeed. Nigel Farage, one of the movers behind the Brexit movement, is totally in favor for the Catalonian separatist movement. This is not by accident, since Farage and those like him are instigators for revolution, arm chair rebels whose call for secession will only lead to violence. 

As tensions rise between Catalonia and Madrid, Brussels is not doing anything to intervene. We suspect that Germany, and its EU states, will act neutral until blood is on the streets, and then there will be intervention. 

THE JANUARY 2017 BRUSSELS MEETING AND THE CATALONIAN REVOLUTION

While tensions between Spain and Catalonia have been going on for centuries, this particular referendum can be traced back to a meeting that took place in January of 2017. The event was called, “The Catalan Referendum”, and it was supported by Catalonia’s president, Carlos Puigdemont, its vice-president Oriol Junqueras, and its regional secretary, Raül Romeva. The conference was held in the EU parliament in Brussels, the same place where Filip DeWinter organized the 2007 Counterjihad Summit, an event financed by Frank Gaffney’s Center for Security Policy. As we have said before, the Counterjihad is about fragmenting Europe, and this event for Catalonian independence was no different: under the guise of “democracy,” it was all about dividing Spain, and ultimately, Europe.

Oriol Junqueras, the vice-president of Catalonia, was present in the 2017 Brussels meeting

In the meeting, in front of about five hundred people, Carlos Puigdemont said that:

“About 80% of Catalans are in favour of calling a referendum, regardless of what their vote would be … We are at the negotiating table and we will not leave until the last day … As I promised to the Parliament last September, in September 2017 at the latest Catalonia will hold a binding independence referendum. Should this be agreed to, we will welcome it, that’s what we would like. Should this not be the case, we will hold it anyway. Intransigence cannot prevail”.

This is exactly what happened, and what is happening. This was all planned out, and the plan is now being executed. Puigdemont and the rest of the Catalan separatists are not backing down from their pursuit for severing Catalonia from Spain. This was all part of a plan, and the intricacy of this plan is illustrated by the large number of politicians in the meeting, both right-wing and left-wing. One report describes the high number of political figures, including members of the European parliament:

“About forty MEP and their aids, from every political affiliation, were in attendance, in addition to a sizable representation of Catalan parties and organizations, some fifty embassy staff from various countries, and about twenty international journalists, according to the event organizers.”

Present in the meeting was EU parliamentarian Helga Stevens, who is a member of the New Flemish Alliance, the largest political party in Belgium that wants to create an independent state of Flanders. Isn’t it interesting that in the EU parliament there are people who want to split Europe and fragment the European Union? This really reveals that there are people running the EU who want to use its power to destroy it from within, in order to bring back old divisions — divisions which the EU was suppose to control.

The EU, as we have said before, was set up after World War Two to prevent another conflict from breaking out again in Europe, and to establish free-trade to keep European nations financially satisfied. If the EU is fragmented, conflict will arise again, the imperialist aspirations of Germany will come back, and there will be no longer an incentive to maintain peace.

Germany is the most economically powerful nation in Europe (and the fourth largest economy on earth), and thus it controls the EU. If the EU fragments, what will be keeping Germany from going to war again? Britain, before Brexit, was keeping Germany from establishing an EU military force. After Brexit, the Germans almost immediately began discussing the creation of an EU military, and they are now in the process of creating it, with Dutch and Romanian troops already training with the German army. The Germans wanted Brexit to happen, to get rid of the biggest obstacle preventing its militarist goals. EU parliamentarians who want to see the EU divided, want conflict. As we wrote last year:

“Germany right now is at an incipient stage towards major conflict. We are currently living in the movement and development of these stages. We witnessed a very significant stage with Britain agreeing to leave the EU. Each stage is a transition point to a more intense moment, and in the end it will climax with bloody conflict.”   

The fragmentation of a state, or of a body of states, leads to conflict. For example, the formation of Pakistan, and thus the severing of India, led to a bloody conflict between Muslim and Hindu that still lives on today. When the Bohemian Protestants and Hussites wanted to break away from Catholic Christendom, it led to the Battle of White Mountain, which eventually escalated to the Thirty Years’ War, the bloodiest war in Europe’s history before the First and Second World Wars. Small events are not the causers of war, but they simply provide the occasion in which old rivalries can return. Hatred between Europeans has always been in the continent, the question is, what will be the event that will give opportunity for these conflicts and spark the conflagrations that will lead to another world war? We shall wait and see. 

The presence of the New Flemish Alliance in the separatist conference for Catalonia in Brussels, is not insignificant. The New Flemish Alliance, ideologically speaking, is very similar to the far-right Vlaams Belang, since both are Flemish separatists, and both have Nazi sympathizers. That both are separatists, explains why they both support Catalonian independence. By Catalonia seceding, it will give legitimacy to the separatist movement of the Flemish. The Vlaams Belang is a smaller party than the New Flemish Alliance, and although the two are rivals, they both want the same thing: the severing of Flanders from Belgium, and ultimately the fragmentation of Europe, which will lead to the destabilization of Europe (regardless of all this nonsense talk about ‘peaceful’ transitions of power).

What makes this very interesting is the connection that this has to the Counterjihad, or the anti-Islam movement. As we have been showing for almost two years now, the Counterjihad was designed to use Islamic immigration as a way to promote eugenics and division. Filip DeWinter, the Flemish separatist who is one of the leading figures of the Vlaams Belang, was the one who organized the Counterjihad movement in his 2007 Counterjihad Summit in Brussels which saw Counterjihad speakers like Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller.

The January 2017 conference for Catalonian separatism took place in the Brussels parliament; the 2007 Counterjihad Summit also took place in the Brussels parliament. Both were attended to and supported by Flemish separatists. The Flemish are using the Catalonian controversy, as well as Islamic immigration, to support their own evil agendas of dividing Europe and promoting racialism.

THE FLEMISH CONSPIRACY 

After it was found out that the Islamic terrorists who committed the 2015 massacre in Paris were based in Brussels, the New Flemish Alliance jumped on the opportunity to bolster their own position and attack the French speaking Belgian politicians. Belgium can be ethnically and linguistically broken into two parts, the French speakers of the south (Walloons) and the Dutch speakers of the North (the Flemish of Flanders). The Flemish want to break away and make their own state, and they are using the Islamic problem to further this agenda. The leader of the New Flemish Alliance, Bart de Wever, used the Paris attack as evidence that Belgium was weak on terrorism and thus Flanders needs to break away.

When the Paris attack was traced back to an Islamic terrorist cell in the Brussels neighborhood of Molenbeek, its former mayor, the French speaking socialist Philippe Moureaux, became the perfect target in the pecking order of power by Wever, who wrote that Islamic terrorism was due to “20 years of laxness from the Socialist Party and ‘Islamo-Socialism.’ ” While such speech tickles the ears of many conservative Americans, what we must understand is that these people cover up their Nazi sympathies with counter-jihadism. 

Bart de Wever

This is how these political movements work: pick a problem that people are worried about, and present yourself as the solution to this problem. As Carl Devos, a politics professor at Ghent University, said in regards to the New Flemish Alliance: “It’s a rule in politics that whichever party owns an issue and is deemed most trustworthy on that issue will gain electorally from it.”

What we are seeing right now is a conspiracy, partially being done by the Flemish, to rip Catalonia from Spain, and thus further the fragmentation of Europe. The end goal is tyranny. Filip DeWinter, one of the heads of the Flemish separatist Vlaams Belang Party, declared years ago that the goal of his party is to have a “white Europe,” and he also headed a demonstration with neo-Nazi, Bert Erikkson, to praise the Nazi Wehrmacht. What will this type of ideology lead to, but genocide? 

The current Deputy prime minister and minister of Security and Home Affairs in Belgium, Jon Jambon, a leading member of the New Flemish Alliance, wily expressed his sympathy for Flemish Nazi collaborators by saying: “The people who collaborated with the Germans had their reasons. Me, I was not alive during that time.”

Jon Jambon

Another member of the New Flemish Alliance is Theo Francken, who serves as Secretary of State for Asylum and Migration in Belgium’s federal government. In 2014, Francken went to the birthday party of Bob Maes, who was a member of the National Socialist Youth Flanders during the reign of the Third Reich, and the founder of the neo-Nazi terrorist organization, Vlaamse Militanten Orde (Flemish Military Order, more on them later). Interestingly enough, this is the same organization that Filip DeWinter collaborated with back in the eighties, which really shows how the network runs full circle with these people.  

Theo Francken

Also with Francken at the Nazi birthday party was Ben Weyts, a Belgian politician with the New Flemish Alliance who was at the time, and still is, the Flemish Minister of Mobility and Public Works, Brussels Periphery, Tourism and Animal Welfare. It is very interesting that the one in charge of migration in Belgium is also someone who is friendly with neo-Nazis.

It makes one wonder as to what the agenda is behind allowing migration. Weeks before an Islamic terrorist attack hit Brussels in early 2016, it was known by the Belgium government that there were “gaps in their border”. Turkey deported one of the terrorists involved, Ibrahim el Bakraoui, to the Netherlands. The Dutch then released him and he went to Belgium, and the Belgians just let him right in, knowing that their borders were open. Erdogan said that Turkey had deported Ibrahim back to Europe after informing the Belgian embassy about his terrorist ties. Erdogan went on to say that his government warned Brussels about Ibrahim back in 2015. In 2016, after the terrorist attack that hit Ankara, Erdogan even predicted that there would be an attack in Brussels:

“There is no reason for the bomb, which exploded in Ankara, not to explode in Brussels, where an opportunity to show off in the heart of the city to supporters of the terror organization is presented, or in any city in Europe. Despite this clear reality, European countries are paying no attention, as if they are dancing in a minefield. You can never know when you are stepping on a mine”

Erdogan

So, Brussels knew that they were allowing terrorists into their country, and Erdogan knew that a terrorist attack was going to hit Brussels. Moreover, the one in charge of migration in Brussels, Theo Francken, is a neo-Nazi, friends with Bob Maes, the founder of a major Nazi terrorist organization, Vlaamse Militanten Orde. Furthermore, the dominant party in Belgium, the New Flemish Alliance, uses Islamic terrorism as a way to justify Flemish separatism. What is happening here, but a conspiracy?

The Turks and the Flemish are in cahoots together, doing a conspiracy to divide Europe. Both the Turks and the Flemish knew that Brussels’ border was open to terrorists, and the Belgians allowed them in on purpose. There is a conspiracy being done to divide Europe, using the threat of terrorism to justify separatism. Using terrorism to bolster the Flemish separatist position is part of the strategy of the leader of the New Flemish Alliance, Bart de Wever. As journalist, Laurens Cerulus, writes:

“De Wever is leveraging the perception that Belgium’s patchwork political system — reflecting divisions between the right-leaning, Dutch-speaking north and the Socialist-dominated, French-speaking south — is incapable of tackling 21st-century challenges. The Paris attacks, which alerted Belgium to the extent of Islamist radicalization flourishing near the heart of its capital, also provided the perfect political foil for the N-VA [New Flemish Alliance].”

By pointing to terrorist attacks, The Flemish nationalists — be they Filip DeWinter and his Vlaams Belang or De Wever and his New Flemish Alliance — can claim that they have the capability to defend against terrorism better than the French speaking Walloons, and that it is better for them to have their own Flemish state. Through this strategy, and other strategies, these rebels will break apart Europe, bring instability and in the end, war.

Lets go back to the January 2017 pro-Catalonian independence conference in the EU parliament. As we said, Helga Stevens, of the New Flemish Alliance, was in this meeting to support Carlos Puigdemont in his secessionist cause.

As we have shown already, members of the New Flemish Alliance have Nazi sympathies and this ties into their separatist beliefs. Stevens is not without a Hitlerian agenda herself. Even though Stevens is known for her activism for people suffering from disabilities, she is a huge supporter of infanticide.

In a 2015 statement, Stevens said that she was in total support for “abortion, reproductive health and sexual rights for women, domains in which Belgium is still a leader.” 

Helga Stevens

Stevens is also totally in favor for the government paying abortion clinics to conduct infanticide. In 2008, Stevens was asked by the Minister of Social Affairs and Health for a full report on how many abortions were being done in each province of Belgium for the years 2005, 2006 and 2007, and how much money was being reimbursed to the abortion mills by the RIZIV (National Institute for Health and Disability Insurance). Stevens completed the report, an image of which can be seen here:

Just a few days ago this infanticidal eugenist, Helga Stevens, expressed her support for Catalonian separatism by holding the Catalonian flag with two other Flemish members of the EU parliament, Anneleen Van Bossuyt and Mark Demesmaeker:

Belgium members of the European Parliament, Anneleen Van Bossuyt, left, Mark Demesmaeker and Helga Stevens, right, display a Catalan flag in support of the disputed independence vote Sunday in Catalonia during a session at the European Parliament in Strasbourg, eastern France, Wednesday, Oct. 4, 2017. European Commission Vice President Frans Timmermans says there is a “general consensus that regional government of Catalonia has chosen to ignore the law when organizing the referendum.” (AP Photo/Jean-Francois Badias)

 

This is who we have backing Catalonian separatism: socialists, eugenists and nazis.

THE HUNGARIAN CONSPIRACY

Another person involved in the Catalonian referendum is Laszlo Tokes, an ethnic Hungarian Calvinist minister from Romania who led a separatist movement in the late eighties, the nineties and early 2000s, to form an autonomous state for ethnic Hungarians in Romania. Tokes was one of the major figures who influenced and led the revolution against the communist government of Nicolae Ceaușescu. In 2010, Tokes was elected vice-president of the EU parliament.

When the political party, the Democratic Alliance of Hungarians in Romania (UDMR), was in the Romanian parliament, Laszlo Tokes pushed them to work for an autonomous state for ethnic Hungarians. According to one US government document:

“his radical agenda of pressing the UDMR to demand full autonomy for ethnic Hungarians has isolated him over time, particularly as other UDMR leaders took on a moderate approach. …Between 1996 and 2000, when UDMR was part of the then center-right ruling coalition, Tokes continuously pressured the UDMR to withdraw from the government.”

Laszlo Tokes

The reason why Tokes and those like him are supporting the Catalonian revolt, is because if Catalonia severs itself from Spain, it will give legitimacy to their separatist movements, to Hungarian separatists, Northern Italian separatists, Flemish separatists and others. Now, motivated by the situation in Catalonia and inspired by Tokes, Hungary’s Prime Minister, Viktor Orban, is calling for a referendum in Szekler Land, a region within Romania that is inhabited by ethnic Hungarians. Orban said: “Hungary can be big only with the Hungarians beyond the border … We learned something from László Tőkés. We together, we grow together, together, we can build the future”.

Szekler Land

Political analyst, Bogdan Chirieac, said that we can actually expect a referendum on Szekler Land:

“We must expect a referendum on independence in the Szekler Land. I think this has been going on for a few years. I’m very serious. After the example in Catalonia, probably next year, that is 100th anniversary of the Great Union, I think we will have something similar. … I expect in the spring of 2018 to hold a referendum, probably on March 15.” 

Viktor Orban

REVOLUTION — FROM THE MIDDLE EAST TO EUROPE

The revolutions in the Middle East — specifically in Egypt, Syria and Libya — alongside the bloodbath that has been going on in Iraq, caused a ripple effect filled with the spirt of revolt that is now expanding within the European continent. What began as the Middle East Spring, is now continuing to manifest as the Europe Spring.

This was all planned out. As we have said in the past, this all began with the CIA’s plan back in the eighties and nineties to remove Saddam and the rest of the pan-Arab dictators in the Middle East. By removing Saddam, the US removed the strongest pillar keeping the Middle East from becoming the war torn land that it is now. Violence in Iraq and Syria commenced the so called “migration crises,” and in this, the violence in the Middle East caused a conflagration that is now causing fragmentation in Europe.

The migration crises was allowed to happen on purpose in order to cause divisions in Europe. The migrant crises altered the political climate in Europe. Ever since the flood of migrants came into Europe, every secessionist and every eugenist came out of the woodworks to take advantage of the situation to promote their own agendas. And it has been working. Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson used the migration crises to push for Brexit. It was the migration crises that stirred up a surge of popularity for Geert Wilders and his Party for Freedom. Wilders and his parties were not that popular before the migrant situation. Now, they are the second largest party in the Dutch parliament where they currently hold twenty seats. Brexit or Geert Wilder’s taking second place in the Dutch elections, would have been unheard of if the migrant crises did not happen.

Now, these very dividers, such as Nigel Farage and Wilders, are pushing for the Catalonian revolt against Spain. There is even a video of Nigel Farage expressing his support for the Catalonian rebels:

There is a network of these people, all conspiring for the fragmentation of Europe, a breaking down of the continent that will lead to war. Within this network is a key player that shoebat.com has been exposing for a while now: Filip DeWinter, the one who pioneered the Counterjihad movement in 2007, in the EU parliament building in Brussels. DeWinter collaborates with one of the pushers for Catalonian nationalism, Josep Anglada, founder of the small right-wing political party, Platform for Catalonia (which got rid of him in 2014).

Filip DeWinter (right) with Josep Anglada

The beginning of Catalonia’s move towards a referendum has been traced back to 2003, when parties like the socialist Popular Unity Candidacy, and the Platform for Catalonia came into the political scene in several city councils. Xavier Casals of Ramon Lull University, says that these parties “criticized the system from within, which broke out on the fringes of large formations,” spreading their views to the public. In 2008, DeWinter met with Anglada and Liga Norte, a separatist party that wants Northern Italy to split from Italy. According to one report:

“the far-right party led by the mayor of Vic Josep Anglada, will hold its fourth congress Sunday, in which it has invited representatives of extreme right parties, such as the Vlaams Belang in Flanders, Belgium, and also the Northern League, a formation that advocates the independence of the so-called ‘Padania’, the richest northern regions of Italy.”

And just to make our point clear: if these groups are truly patriotic, and simply want sovereignty for their nations, then why do they want to split other countries up? Why support the breaking up of Italy? of Spain? Because it nots about focusing on one country, but about breaking up an entire continent. Hence, this movement is not nationalist, rather it begins as continental, and will eventually become internationalist.

What is interesting is how this meeting took place in November of 2008, just one year after the October 2007 Counterjihad Summit that was organized by Filip DeWinter and took place in the Brussels Parliament. DeWinter’s ultimate agenda is not to ‘destroy Islam’ as many think, but to really fragment Europe, hence why DeWinter is such a staunch supporter of Catalonian separatism.

His 2007 conference for “counterjihad” was for the same agenda as when he meets with Catalonian nationalists: to split Europe up. By using Islamic terrorism (which is a real problem), DeWinter legitimizes his separatist agenda, for every movement always points to a real problem to justify its existence. Every heresy, every evil ideology, will declare itself against an actual evil in order to justify another evil. Satan probably came up with some very persuasive arguments when he sparked revolution against God. And so, such rebellious people, being as their father the devil, will always use facts to substantiate their movements.

Boris Johnson used Islamic migration as a way to scaring people to vote for Brexit, but what few pointed out, is that this same Boris wants Turkey to join the EU as part of a fantasy of uniting a revived Ottoman empire with Europe in order to restore the Roman empire.

DeWinter, like Boris and the rest of them, uses Islamic immigration to bolster his own position of nationalism and separatism, but this will only be for the cause or racialism, violence and eugenics. 

By breaking up the continent, the old animosities of Europe’s conflicts will be unearthed, and from this will come bloodshed, war and genocide. DeWinter wants to break up Flanders from Belgium, Catalonia from Spain, northern Italy from Italy, and will support any separatist movement, and this is all for his ultimate goal of creating a “white Europe”. As DeWinter himself said:

“Yes, Vlaams Blok will put our own people first and yes, Vlaams Blok will have a Flemish Flanders and YES, the Vlaams Blok will have a white Europe!”

And if you are thinking that this DeWinter is just a gentle, righteous patriot, then watch this video of him screaming these very words like Adolf Hitler:

That DeWinter was the same one that organized the 2007 Counterjihad Summit in the EU Parliament in Brussels (the event that gave legitimacy to the counterjihad), and that this event was financed by Frank Gaffney’s Center for Security Policy (which, as we have shown extensively, is part of a CIA agenda) and that DeWinter supported, and continues to support, Catalonian separatism, alongside Flemish separatism and other rebellious movements, shows that there is a powerful network, of Europeans and Americans, interconnected with the higher echelons of power, to fragment Europe and usher in another world war. 

In 2009, Filip DeWinter, alongside the president of the Flemish parliament, Marleen Vanderpoorten, and numerous other high ranking members of the Flemish parliament, met with members of the Catalonian parliament, including Josep Anglada. One Catalonian report describes the meeting:

In addition to the president, the delegation of the Flemish parliament was composed of two vice-presidents, Carl Decaluwé and Luk Van Nieuwenhuysen; the Secretaries of the Bureau Erik Matthijs and Dany Vandenbossche; the presidents of the Vlaams Belang (CD & V) parliamentary group, Filip Dewinter – who met the next day with Anglada – and Vlasms Progressieven ( SP-A ), Ludo Sannen , Nieuw-Vlaamse Alliantie ( N-VA ), Jan Peumans, and the environmental group GROEN , Rudy Daems; the Secretary General, Martine Goossens, and the Director of the European Office, Dries Bergen .

In the welcome speech Benach justified the meeting because “Catalans and Flemish represent two nations that in the context of the global world try to preserve their identity, language, culture and self-government, and not to confront anyone, but to participate in the global world with our voice.” “We defend freedom, and this is a value that unites us,” he added.

DeWinter and Anglada (circled), with the Flemish and Catalonian delegation (From: e-noticies)

In 2010, Filip DeWinter, alongside far-right Austrian politician, Heinz-Christian Strache, met with Josep Anglada. DeWinter stated:

“Josep Anglada and PxC are the true hope of the European identity movement in Catalonia and Spain, so we are here supporting it, so that together we form a European resistance movement against mass immigration and Islamization of Europe”

In 2013, there was a meeting held in the EU capital of Brussels described as a “European identity event,” attended by Anglada, Filip Dewinter, Marine Le Pen, HC Strache, alongside representatives of the Lega Nord.

Le Pen with DeWinter

Who is behind the Catalan uprising against Spain? This is the real question that not a lot are talking about. What we have, behind this movement, are nationalists, Nazis and socialists.

On June 6th of 2017, Filip DeWinter, a leader of the right-wing Flemish nationalist party, Vlaams Belang, spoke for a Catalonian separatist party called Som Catalans, in which he said that the Vlaams Belang party has always supported Catalan secession from Spain. DeWinter stated that his party supported not only Catalan independence, but also “the struggle” to preserve the racial identity of Catalan. In DeWinter’s own words:

“As you know the Vlaams Belang always supported the Catalan people in their struggle for freedom, for independence, but also for their struggle to maintain their identity.”

He ended his speech by saying:

“Catalonia to the Catalans, Flanders to the Flemish, and Europe to the Europeans.”

DeWinter’s exhortation for a racial conflict for the cause of Catalan separatism is totally in line with his pan-European identitarian ideology. DeWinter is a Flemish separatist, meaning that he wants Flanders to become independent of Belgium. Belgium is broken up into different governments, mainly based on ethnic and linguistic differences, and although it is a single country, it may just fragment on account of racial tensions.

Belgium consists of a federal government, and there is also a separate government for the French speaking Walloons; a government for the French speakers in Brussels; there is a government for the German speakers, and a government for Belgium’s capital of Brussels. There is also a government for the Dutch speaking region of Flanders, which the Flemish separatists want to sever away and make an independent state. With such a divided country, its like a room filled with gas; all one has to do is throw in the match of division and the fragmentation will start. There is a video from 2010 of Nigel Farage, in the EU parliament building, declaring that Belgium is “not a proper nation,” thus instigating for the fragmentation of this country:

The largest party in both Flanders and Belgium, and also the largest Flemish and Belgian party in the European parliament, is the New Flemish Alliance. It is a successor party from the People’s Union (Volksunie). The People’s Union was a Flemish nationalist party that started out in the 1950s. In the 1970s, the People’s Union began to make a shift from Flemish separatism towards federalism, and this enraged its right-wing members who would break away and create a new party, the Vlaams Blok.

The Vlaams Blok had amongst its ranks members of the Vlaams Nationaal Verbond, which joined the Nazis during the German occupation of Belgium.           

As shoebat.com has shown before, Filip DeWinter, one of the leaders of the Vlaams Blok (now the Vlaams Belang) is a neo-nazi who, in 1988 led a demonstration with a hundred or so neo-nazis to enter the Lommel German war cemetery where 40,000 Nazi German Wehrmacht soldiers are buried. With Filip DeWinter was the Nazi, Bert Eriksson who was a member of the Hitler Youth during the Second World War, and a Nazi fanatic who gained fame when, in 1978, he sojourned to Austria and unearthed the remains of the Nazi collaborator, Cyriel Verschaeve, and transported them back to Alveringem, as though they were holy relics for his Nazi cult.

DeWinter at the demonstration with neo-Nazi Bert Erikkson

Eriksson ran a neo-Nazi terrorist group called, Vlaamse Militanten Orde (Order of Flemish Militants), Belgium’s largest fascist organization. The founder of Vlaamse Miltanten Orde, Bob Maes, who was a member of a Nazi youth organization in Flanders, is friends with Theo Franken of the New Flemish Alliance and the current head of migration in Belgium. This shows that migration in Belgium is ran by a Nazi, and thus the migration of terrorists into Brussels is being done for a Nazi agenda, and secondly, it shows the network between the Vlaams Belang and the Free Flemish Alliance. 

Bob Maes

Vlaamse Militanten Orde collaborated with another fascist group, Front de la Jeunesse, which worked directly with NATO secret service agencies in Operation Stay Behind, more commonly known as Operation Gladio. Gladio, which is something that we have written extensively on, was an operation, commenced in the late forties, directed by the CIA alongside the secret service agencies of Western Europe and Turkey.

The whole operation of Gladio was directed from the NATO headquarters in Brussels, and its entire mission was to recruit neo-Nazis, old Nazis from the Third Reich and other nationalist groups, and to train and arm them to form an anti-Soviet paramilitary force. These terrorists were allowed to slaughter innocent people so that the press could blame pro-Soviet groups. The whole intention behind this was to stir up nationalist sentiment in Europe (we believe that they are doing the same thing with Islamic terrorism). In the 1980s, multiple members of both Vlaamse Militanten Orde and the Front de la Jeunesse were sentenced to prison for terrorism and leading racist demonstrations. As we read in one report:

Bert Eriksson, head of the Vlaamse Militanten Orde (VMO), Belgium’s largest neofascist organization, and Francis Dossogne, leader of the Front de la Jeunesse, have been slapped with prison sentences of one year and seven months, respectively.

Another 101 VMO and 14 Front members were found guilty in court of crimes ranging from assault to participation in racist demonstrations to membership in illegal organizations to carrying unauthorized weapons.

“I was surprised that no arrests had been made and I know that I did report myself what was going on — we were respecting killing like that — random killing or going into supermarkets and killing people, even kids.”

In March 28, 1991, the leading Belgium newspaper, Le Soir, caught a leaked message from the terrorists and published them. The message revealed how the terrorists were refusing to give the names of the killers to politicians, and how they were being backed by “Operation Stay Behind”, that is, Gladio:

“‘Give us the name!’ ‘Never!’ reply the ‘Gladiators’. The hour of truth has come. This is Brussels calling. Dear friends in Operation Stay Behind, section SDRA8 assures you of its very high esteem and thanks you for your devotion to your country. They guarantee that the pressures and threats will be empty and that undertakings will be honoured. Adolphe [Hitler] is looking well!’”

In the year 1990, the Belgium parliament released a report showing that the terrorist attacks were part of a conspiracy devised by the highest echelons of power to destabilize Brussels and, ultimately, Europe. The Swiss historian, Daniele Ganser, presents one statement on the report as such:

“According to the report, the killers were members or former members of the security forces  — extreme right-wingers who enjoyed high-level protection and were preparing a right-wing coup.”

The Italian right-wing terrorist, Vincenzo Vinciguerra, said:

“The terrorist line was followed by camouflaged people, people belonging to the security apparatus through rapport or collaboration”.

The Front de la Jeunesse’s armed wing, Westland New Post, was headed by Paul Latinus, a fanatic National Socialist. Latinus was a nuclear science technician and also an informer for the Belgium intelligence service (Surete), before he was recruited by the US Defense Intelligence Service (the DIA). A Belgium journalist, writing for the magazine, Pour, wrote:

“Latinus had been implanted into Front de la Jeunesse with a specific task … To teach the Front de la Jeunesse how to carry out violent attacks, attacks on immigrant Arab cafes, how to organize military training camps, how to carry out surveillance. …In the training of their groups for active intervention, para military groups, they had to form and train elements from the extreme-right, ex para-commandos, ex militaries (gendarmes), militant rightest …. This kind of exercise involves the firing of machine-guns and the throwing of grenades. This makes noise and attracts attention.”

The Belgium journalist, Rene Haquin, describes that the terrorist group was modeled after the SS, and that each member was given a German name:

“Latinus was charged with forming a group, an army on the model of the SS. …They had a secret service, a security service in the group. Each member had a double name, a code-name, usually in German.” (For a detailed study on Gladio, see Daniele Ganser’s book, NATO’s Secret Armies)

The interconnection between the Flemish separatists and the Vlaamse Militanten Orde, the CIA’s and NATO’s collaboration with Belgian terrorists, and the Flemish support for Catalonian separatism, reveals a networks of nazi terrorists and hidden government support, conspiring for the breakdown of Europe.

 

THE SPIRIT OF REVOLUTION

The prospect of revolutions throughout Europe, from Spain, to Belgium, to Italy and Romania, is very strong. In the history of Europe, there have been many traitors, those who bring destruction for the cause of their diabolical desires. Today we have the Venetians who want to secede from Italy, and going all the way back to the 16th century, you had Venetians who cared nothing for Christendom, and were more focused on profit than the Catholic Faith. There is a spirit that lies in this mentality, and still it lingers in Venice. This spirit can be seen in the 16th century Venetian painter, Gentile Bellini, who painted Mehmet II, the Ottoman Sultan who destroyed the eastern half of the Roman empire. Under the the painting, Bellini wrote the words, “emperor of the world” (Imperator Orbis).

 

Gentile Bellini’s portrait of Mehmet II

 

There were even Venetian goldsmiths and German entrepreneurs who built a crown for Suleiman I, ornamented with shining giant pearls. They designed it deliberately to defy and mock the Pope’s tiara, giving it four concentric crowns (one more than the crown of the Pope), and making it extremely shiny to represent how the Ottoman empire outshined the Roman Papacy.

Sultan Suleiman with his anti-Catholic and antichrist crown

These were not Muslims who did this, but Venetians and wealthy German businessmen. It was wealthy businessmen in Germany who made an industry out of genocide during the Holocaust, buying Jewish, Russian and Polish slaves from the Nazi SS. Those who could not work any longer, were exterminated. There stood Pope Pius XII, combating this industrialist evil of the Nazi, who put profit and race over the Church. That spirit still lived in the German entrepreneurs who sided with the Ottoman Empire in the 16th century, that spirit that replaces Christendom with the evils of industrialism. 

Such people defied the words of Pope Leo X who, in 1517, called the Ottoman empire the “perpetual enemy of our Holy Catholic Faith”. Here we have an example of the German hoards and the Venetians praising the precursor of the Antichrist, Suleiman I, and as it was in the past so shall it be in the future.

Many Europeans in this time rejected the Holy Catholic Faith, putting money and power above the Church, and such people brought nothing but destruction, fragmenting and destroying Christendom. Many Europeans became, like the Ottoman, enemies of the Catholic Faith. We talk about the great Battle of Lepanto in 1571, in which the Catholic League crushed the Ottoman navy. But what is not discussed a lot, is how just two years after the battle, in 1573, the Catholic League was disbanded. Why was this? Because enough Europeans stopped caring about Christendom. There was the tragedy that ended Christendom, and we will behold one day, the tragedy of the world. 

The Venetians, being utterly callous towards the cause of Christendom, secured their commercial interests with the Ottomans, and abandoned Spain which had to fight two enemies at once: the Ottomans in North Africa and the Calvinist Dutch in the European heartland. Here we have the Ottoman Dutch alliance, and we believe the same will be seen in the future. 

The destruction of the Catholic League was due to the Fragmentation of Christendom, with Protestants attacking Catholic Europe and allying with the Ottomans, and traitorous people (such as the French and the Venetians), working with the Turks for financial gain and to also destroy the Spanish empire. In 1569, the Protestants arrogantly ignored the efforts of the Catholic League to fight the Ottomans, and the French king, Charles IX, maintained his economic relations with the Ottoman Empire to purposefully cause disunity in Christendom. With the Dutch as their allies, the Ottoman navy made its attack on Spanish Tunis in North Africa in 1574 with a force larger than anything Christendom witnessed in the Battle of Lepanto. 

In this current day push to fragment Europe, there are Hungarian Calvinists like Laszlo Tokes and Victor Orban, who want to divide up the continent. Just like now, in the past there were Hungarian Calvinists who worked to destroy Christendom. The Calvinist Hungarians have been some of the most traitorous and destructive people in Europe’s history. When the Bohemian Protestants and Hussites (who lived in what is today called Czechoslovakia) attacked Christendom within the first half of the seventeenth century, in the Thirty Years War, they attacked the city of Laa and struck Vienna. The Hungarian Calvinists, seeing this incursion, saw their opportunity to make their own attack on Christendom. They allied with the Bohemians, and the Calvinist king of Transylvania, Bethlen Gabor, who was a major ally of the Ottoman Empire, also joined this force against Christendom. As the 1620 Edict of Ferdinand II recounts:

“We shall not mention what actions they [the Bohemians] took in portions of Hungary after our election and coronation as emperor, also leading these subjects away from their obedience to us; they advised and abetted Prince Bethlen Gabor of Transylvania, who was under the protection of our archenemy [the Turks], in his seizure of the fortress of Kaschau and all of Upper Hungary; joining with his army, they again crossed the Danube and advanced on our capital city of Vienna, once again coming face to face with us.”

In the early 17th century, the Hungarian Calvinist nobleman, Istvan Bocksai, led a revolt against the Catholic Hapsburg Spanish empire. Bocksai’s anti-Hapsburg movement was covertly supported by the Ottoman Empire, and he would eventually crush the Hapsburgs in the battle of Almosd and in the battle of Bihardioszeg. In 1605, Bocksai was elected as prince of Ottoman Hungary and Transylvania.

In the Thirty Years War, the Dutch and the Hungarians worked together with the Ottomans to destroy Christendom. Today, we have the Dutch, the Dutch speaking Flemish and Calvinist Hungarians still working to fragment Europe. Just days ago, the Speaker of the Flemish Parliament Jan Peumans, said: “Today we are all Catalans,” further inciting revolution. What we are witnessing before us, is a scheme done by Brussels, Calvinist Hungarians, the Dutch and the Flemish, to spark a ripple effect of revolution throughout Europe.

There is a darkness that has always lingered, even in the days of Christendom, it has always persisted, trying to destroy the pillar of truth, the Church. In the late twelfth century, there was a Flemish mercenary by the name of Robert FitzHubert, who had a sadistic pleasure in stripping his victims naked, covering them in honey and watching them being stung by bees. Fitzhubert once boasted that he watched in hysterical joy as he set fire to a monastery in Flanders and watched as eighty monks were cooked alive. This sickness of the soul, a sinister spirt that desires to destroy the Church, has always been here. Today, it is greater than ever, rising above unbeknownst to the ignorant masses who, as all the fools before us have thought before the great wars, that peace would prevail.       

Catalonia has been doing revolts against Spain for centuries. One example of Catalonian rebelliousness is what took place in the seventeenth century. In the 1630s, when Spain and France were at war, the Catalonians supported the French. The Catalonians refused to support Spain, which humiliated the Spanish king. The French invaded and took the Salses-le-Chateau in Rousillon (which was part of the Principality of Catalonia) in 1639, and the Catalonians just stood back and watched it all happen, being completely indifferent to a Spanish defeat.

The kingdom was draining resources for its conflict during the Thirty Years War, and multiple regions wanted to break away from the empire. In fact, the first place where these revolts began was in Catalonia, where from 1640 to 1659, Catalonians fought against Spanish reign, in what is called the Catalan revolt (Guerra dels Segadors).

Armed gangs murdered the viceroy and even slaughtered members of his family. Spanish troops, under Pedro Zuniga y Requesens, the marquis of Los Velez, fought against the Catalonian rebels. But, in the year 1641, the Catalonians, alongside their French allies, defeated the Spanish in the battle of Montjuic, outside of Barcelona. The next year, the Catalonians pledged their allegiance to the French king, Louis XIII. A French army entered Catalonia, and it became a French region. The Spanish wanted to revolt, but were distracted by another revolt, this time in Portugal.

When Christendom was fragmented, it was easier to conquer. When today’s Europe fragments, it too will be easier to conquer. Germany, alongside its other allies, especially the Ottomans, will make war against its neighbors, and another struggle — the worst that mankind will ever see — will again commence.

In 1644, the then retired prime minister of the Spanish empire, Olivares, took the time to reflect on the Thirty Years War, and wrote:

“there were we, trying to achieve miracles and reduce the world to what it cannot be… the more we turn this over in our minds, the madder we become” * 

Soon, the world will see the greatest depths of evil, springing up from the abysmal realms, that have ever possessed the soul of man. We, too, shall go mad, our souls ever longing for the Divine goodness which we have rejected for the devil who shall flood the earth with perdition. 

We Are About To Enter A New World War, A Blood Bath Is About To Commence As The Empire Of The Antichrist Will Rise Up. This Is Why I Wrote The Book, Christianity Is At War, The Most Exhaustive Study Ever Done On Christian Warfare. Click Here To Get The Book Today And Prepare Your Soul For The War That Is To Come.  

*There are some excellent books on the Thirty Years War, such as Mark Greengraas’ Christendom Destroyed; and Tryntje Helfferich’s The Thirty Years War: A Documentary History. 

*There is a detailed book on medieval history that I would recommend by Thomas Asbridge, called The Greatest Knight. 

 

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  • AnthonyM

    Yes, this is really an in-depth study. I haven’t finished it yet, but will return later to do so.
    Interesting to note that California is talking about seceding from the U.S. This separatist idea is spreading throughout the world. Generally, people’s best interests are served when they band together with like minded patriots. If the government is broken, then fix the problem.

    • Grandmere

      They are even talking about breaking up CA into three states.

      • richinnameonly

        The states should be named Home, Of, and Insanity.

        • Kevin Nicholson

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_from_Alcatraz_(film)

          Make that 4: “(1.) Home, (2.) Of, and (3.) Insanity, plus (4.) Remnant. Godspeed to His church in CA.

          • Kamau41

            There are certainly a remnant within the state, who are fighting the good fight daily….Make no mistake about it.

          • Grandmere

            Oooh! Four snaps up. We have the Catholics, the Orthodox and the orthodox Anglo Catholics who have learned how to row upstream of Niagara Falls. One for all and all for one.

        • Kamau41

          It’s so absolutely true. The state has already become another Sodom.

        • Alfonso

          If Tulare, Fresno, and Kern county can join Nevada or become our own state it would be great.

      • OrthodoxChristianAmerican

        I’m not sure the PTB would allow that, because the Liberal Megacities take the California vote, and then deliver an huge Electoral Collage hurdle for any conservative nominee for President.

        It would be a Godsend at this point though, for the good people of California.

        • Kamau41

          Absolutely correct. I’m not very optimistic regarding both the short and long-term outlook about the state as I always tell people. They are already very close to the conditions similarly to Venezuela.

          • OrthodoxChristianAmerican

            Eventually I’m sure that there will be a split, because California is too big and it’s peoples too different from each other now. But only when the larger Country goes through some trials

    • Kamau41

      Indeed they are, which is incredibly awful…This will certainly not end well in the long run. It’s very much interconnected to what is happening from a big picture perspective, which is so right on to what exactly the Shoebats have been predicting and warning us about of what’s coming over the last couple of years. The west is seeing the beginning stages of the chaos/mayhem first.
      https://www.google.com/amp/amp.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article168118272.html

  • As much as I want to express dismay, I have to say I am not surprised. This was something, as long ago as 2 years, that the Shoebat, in analyzing some private prophecies concerning Europe, correctly predicted this would happen.

    The European Union originally was established to prevent another European war in the aftermath of WWII and to prevent Germany from initiating another European conflict. That was good.

    The problem came later when the EU began to impose their will upon poorer countries such as Portugal and Greece, whose economics weren’t that great, triggering finances crisis. This, regrettably, empowered the Germans, as the Europeans strongest performing economic power, to impose hard-to-bear measures upon the citizens of Portugal and Greece, triggering nationalistic sentiments.

    Then the so-called refugee crisis engulfed the European continents which increased the call European Union army at the behest of the Germans.

    Let’s not pretend that the EU are some kind of saintly organization since it also pushed for legalization of eugenics, faggot marriage, abortion-on-demand, and dissolution of sovereignty from each states. The EU tried to be the secular form of the Catholic Church and it is already a miserable failure.

    The Brexit was the first wave. There will be more, and the Shoebat already predicted a division between northern and southern European states, so I suspect that deep down, Theo is more angry that they are right, and angrier still that instead of people turning to God, they are regressing to paganism.

    The last week, I had been mediating on one verse from the Apocalypse, “And have redeemed us to God by Your blood out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation…”(Apocalypse 5:9, NKJV), and I found it interesting the people said that out of every tribe, tongue, people and nation.

    Anyway, while I don’t think a major world war is going to happen right away, all of these events are precursor to a major world war that will bring the advent of the Antichrist. These days, I find myself turning more to St. John Chrysostom who said we should turn our mind to the heavenly Jerusalem, to Mount Sion that is of above. I am not alarmed over these news because just from a cursory reading of the Apocalypse, we are already heading toward the end. This is the beginning of the end.

    • OrthodoxChristianAmerican

      You’re right Trevor, the terrible war is coming, so we must turn our minds but especially our hearts towards not offending God any further.

      However, I’ve already ‘picked’ my side, or It picked me, and so I’m against the Fascists and the Elites behind them, Islamofascists or of any other variety out there. They’re being used, like they always have been used.

      • I may sound fatalistic here, but I have already resigned to the fact war is inevitable. There’s nothing I can do except pray and prepare to give my life as a martyr for Christ against all form of evil.

        • susan

          And of course you’ll keep fighting with pen and sword?

          • You know the saying, “The pen is mightier than the sword.”

            😉

          • susan

            Lol. Of course it is…I’ll keep my sword just in case you run out of ink. 😉

        • Kamau41

          You definitely don’t sound fatalistic at all, my brother. Everything you said is absolutely true. War is coming and is inevitable, which is why we have to make sure that we are ready when that time comes.

          • Appreciate it, brother

        • OrthodoxChristianAmerican

          Wars and rumors of wars come and go, but God and His Mercy endures forever. He will return in Glory, Christ will, and will be all in all.

          • AMEN.

          • Kamau41

            Absolutely, OCA. AMEN!!!!!

          • Filip

            On that day, His Feet will touch on the Mount Of Olives and the Mount will Split in half!! Mighty is He!.

          • OrthodoxChristianAmerican

            Amen and Amen!

          • Kamau41

            Indeed, AMEN!!!!!

    • susan

      Excellent commentary. And yes, i agree. Theo is angrier still that instead of turning to God they’re turning to lucifer. Remember in the very beginning how the churches marched for Christendom? Then they were accused of being Nazis. Especially by that fat piglet Merkel. And now we have the real Nazis and no one says a word except they’re just “nationalists”. :/. We’ll have to cripple Germany’s economy to keep them as small and “friendly” as possible. I still hate that we’re going to get it from Japan. But this is the consequence of misinterpreting scripture. And what a boo boo it will be. :(. May God help us to restore Catholicism in our military. And open the eyes of our Protestant brothers and sisters. It’s all in the bible. If you’re preacher says you’re not eating the literally body of Christ and drinking His blood then you’re in an incomplete church. And if you’re not confessing your sins you’re in an incomplete church. I wasn’t exactly thrilled to find the Catholic and Orthodox Church was correct but i couldn’t have life in me without the Eucharist. And that IS the truth. John 6:53 Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you.

      • I am an Anglican, Susan, and we believe in the literal presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

        • Elias

          How can someone believe the Anglican Church is the Church of God?
          Why not catholic?

        • Kevin Nicholson

          “There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved.” (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215.)”

          “No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.)”

          http://catholicism.org/category/outside-the-church-there-is-no-salvation

          Trevor, please listen to video from 11:00 to 13:00 min time frame especially:

          Godspeed.

  • Glad to get that cleared up.

    I think we have some time, but how much longer is anyone’s guess.

    • susan

      Lol. I really only meant to write one or two sentences but then I kept on. I should have cut it and pasted it at the top. If my bad habits continue to annoy you, I will. 😀

      I agree with you in regards to time. It’s begun. So i think the time has already been fixed. We should all live as if the Lord is coming as a thief in the night.

  • susan

    Um…did you listen to the video? Carefully? It usually takes me twice to hear half of it. And he’s calling them out by name. Don’t make the mistake of aiding one evil to fight another evil.

  • PietEckstein

    nowadays many people speak about Catalonian secession movement; some in favour, some against. Catholics who can still use their brains and remember that history can teach all almost always big lessons, woud do well to read and inform themselves a little bit before hurrying to be in favour…
    As a help you may read: https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2017/10/reposted-2006-editorial-catalan-has.html

    and don’t forget that not everythings is as it appears.

    many greetings and God save Spain!

  • OrthodoxChristianAmerican

    If any new ‘country’ would ever be likely to swamp itself with Islamic immigrants, it would be Catalonia. Besides, the Elites will turn the spigot of immigrants off once they’ve finished being useful, and the the New Axis is set up again.

  • Kamau41

    Another outstanding video and written commentary. War is absolutely inevitable and the article below further reflects reality.
    https://www.dailysabah.com/europe/2017/10/30/spaniards-take-to-streets-while-catalan-separatists-fear-imminent-arrest

  • Filip

    Hungary cannot possibly have Transilvania because it was not theirs to begin with. Anyone within their right mind and minimum historical knowledge knows that those lands that make up Romania today were always Lands of the Dacians. A sub-group of the Thracians. Which are to this day inhabited by Romanians descendants of those Dacians. While in the south of Romania the people are mainly descendants of the ethnico-cultural mixture of the Romans and the Dacians about 2076 years ago. or 59 BC. Magyars or Hungarians, are the mixture of local Thracians that were living on those lands and Mongol invader warriors such as Atilla The Hun. Thus the explanation why Hungarian is closely related to Mongolian in phonetics and many words. While Austria was allied with Hungary they took over Romanian Land in particular the mountain areas that are very rich to this day in natural resources. However they cannot even fathom to take anything back since the population is 90%+ Romanian. The Magyar population in Romania is about 1.6 million out of currently 22.1 million people living in Romania out of which 2 million or so are gypsies. There are about 18-19 million Romanians in Romania and another 6-8 million Romanians in the diaspora around the world. Also it would be foolish for Romania & Hungary to start a war now over land.. since borders were agreed on long ago, not to mention Romania used to be much larger. We had an additional 300 kilometers of sea shore in the south east towards Turkey, which the USSR Soviets gave to Bulgaria because our languages & cultures apparently were not as “Russian” as they wanted them to be. They took two other smaller states and gave them to Ukraine while they took Moldova all together and attempted to russianize them, It failed as the entire Moldova speaks Romanian to this day. To the North they stole also few provinces from Romania and many others from Poland as we used to Border Poland to the North, USSR to the North East, Bulgaria to the South and South East, Hungary to the North West and Serbia to the West. We were at war with the Ottomans for over a 500 year period into which they pillaged Romania for its resources, stole our Gold and attempted to incorporate us into the Ottoman Empire and force convert us from Orthodox & Catholics to Islam. We have both denominations in Romania. The government of Romania today is not really even an argument at all. Instead it is more of a masquerade government, put in place by the elite after the fake “revolution” of 1989 where they so said we “broke free” from Communism. When in reality it is the same wolf with a new coat of fur on. I would not be surprised if The Romanian Government will attempt to sell the Land of Transilvania over to Hungary.

  • Kevin Nicholson

    “one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.” Ephesians 4:5-6

    “Ignatius of Antioch (37-107 A.D.) wrote to the Ephesians near the end of his life (Ignatius to Ephesians chapter 6) and said “And ye are, as Paul wrote to you, one body and one spirit, because ye have also been called in one hope of the faith. Since also there is one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all, and through all, and in all. Such, then, are ye, having been taught by such instructors, Paul the Christ-bearer, and Timothy the most faithful.” Ignatius here is quoting from Eph 4:4-6, and attributing it to Paul and Timothy. Since the life of Ignatius significantly overlapped that of Paul, his early witness to Pauline authorship is compelling…Thus, we should date the letter to the Ephesians in 61 or 62 A.D.”http://datingthenewtestament.com/Ephesians.htm

  • Kevin Nicholson

    Peter began the succession of Popes (Bishop of Rome).

  • susan

    Hi Jan Christian. 😀 I bring up the Eucharist because Jesus lost the 70 over the Eucharist. Here. See for yourself. From Tim Staples:

    “For millions of non-Catholic Christians, Jesus was using pure symbolism in John 6:53 when he declared to his followers, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.” The reasons non-Catholics give can usually be boiled down to these: First, a literal interpretation would make Christians into cannibals. Second, Jesus claims to be a “door” in John 10:9 and a “vine” in John 15:5. Do Catholics believe they must pluck a leaf from Jesus the vine or oil the hinges on Jesus the door to get into heaven? So the non-Catholic claims Jesus is using metaphor in John 6, just as he does elsewhere in the Gospels.

    Catholic Cannibals?

    The charge of cannibalism does not hold water for at least three reasons. First, Catholics do not receive our Lord in a cannibalistic form. Catholics receive him in the form of bread and wine. The cannibal kills his victim; Jesus does not die when he is consumed in Communion. Indeed, he is not changed in the slightest; the communicant is the only person who is changed. The cannibal eats part of his victim, whereas in Communion the entire Christ is consumed—body, blood, soul, and divinity. The cannibal sheds the blood of his victim; in Communion our Lord gives himself to us in a non-bloody way.

    Second, if it were truly immoral in any sense for Christ to give us his flesh and blood to eat, it would be contrary to his holiness to command anyone to eat his body and blood—even symbolically. Symbolically performing an immoral act would be of its nature immoral.

    Moreover, the expressions to eat flesh and to drink blood already carried symbolic meaning both in the Hebrew Old Testament and in the Greek New Testament, which was heavily influenced by Hebrew. In Psalm 27:1-2, Isaiah 9:18-20, Isaiah 49:26, Micah 3:3, and Revelation 17:6-16, we find these words (eating flesh and drinking blood) understood as symbolic for persecuting or assaulting someone. Jesus’ Jewish audience would never have thought he was saying, “Unless you persecute and assault me, you shall not have life in you.” Jesus never encouraged sin. This may well be another reason why the Jews took Christ at his word.

    Not Metaphorically Speaking

    If Jesus was speaking in purely symbolic terms, his competence as a teacher would have to be called into question. No one listening to him understood him to be speaking metaphorically. Contrast his listeners’ reaction when Jesus said he was a “door” or a “vine.” Nowhere do we find anyone asking, “How can this man be a door made out of wood?” Or, “How can this man claim to be a plant?” When Jesus spoke in metaphor, his audience seems to have been fully aware of it.

    When we examine the surrounding context of John 6:53, Jesus’ words could hardly have been clearer. In verse 51, he plainly claims to be “the living bread” that his followers must eat. And he says in no uncertain terms that “the bread which I shall give . . . is my flesh.” Then, when the Jews were found “disput[ing] among themselves, saying, ‘How can this man give us his flesh to eat?’” in verse 52, he reiterates even more emphatically, “Truly, truly, I say unto you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.”

    Compare this with other examples in Scripture when followers of the Lord are confused about his teaching. In John 4:32, Jesus says: “I have food to eat of which you do not know.” The disciples thought Jesus was speaking about physical food. Our Lord quickly clears up the point using concise, unmistakable language in verse 34: “My food is to do the will of him who sent me, and to accomplish his work” (see also Matthew 16:5-12).

    Moreover, when we consider the language used by John, a literal interpretation—however disturbing—becomes even more obvious. In John 6:50-53 we encounter various forms of the Greek verb phago, “eating.” However, after the Jews begin to express incredulity at the idea of eating Christ’s flesh, the language begins to intensify. In verse 54, John begins to use trogo instead of phago. Trogo is a decidedly more graphic term, meaning “to chew on” or to “gnaw on”—as when an animal is ripping apart its prey.

    Then, in verse 61, it is no longer the Jewish multitudes, but the disciples themselves who are having difficulty with these radical statements of our Lord. Surely, if he were speaking symbolically, he would clear up the difficulty now among his disciples. Instead, what does Jesus do? He reiterates the fact that he meant just what he said: “Do you take offense at this? Then what if you were to see the Son of man ascending where he was before?” (61-62). Would anyone think him to have meant, “What if you were to see me symbolically ascend?” Hardly! The apostles, in fact, did see Jesus literally ascend to where he was before (see Acts 1:9-10).

    Finally, our Lord turns to the twelve. What he does not say to them is perhaps more important than what he does say. He doesn’t say, “Hey guys, I was misleading the Jewish multitudes, the disciples, and everyone else, but now I am going to tell you alone the simple truth: I was speaking symbolically.” Rather, he says to them, “Will you also go away?” (v. 67). This most profound question from our Lord echoes down through the centuries, calling all followers of Christ in a similar fashion. With St. Peter, those who hear the voice of the Shepherd respond: “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life” (v. 68).

    Spirit vs. Flesh

    John 6:63 is the one verse singled out by Protestant apologists to counter much of what we have asserted thus far. After seeing the Jews and the disciples struggling with the radical nature of his words, our Lord says to the disciples and to us all: “It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.” Protestants claim Jesus here lets us know he was speaking symbolically or “spiritually” when he said “the spirit gives life, the flesh is of no avail.” See? He is not giving us his flesh to eat because he says “the flesh is of no avail.” How do we respond? We can in several ways.

    1) If Jesus was clearing up the point, he would have to be considered a poor teacher: Many of the disciples left him immediately thereafter because they still believed the words of our Lord to mean what they said.

    2) Most importantly, Jesus did not say, “My flesh is of no avail.” He said, “The flesh is of no avail.” There is a rather large difference between the two. No one, it is safe to say, would have believed he meant my flesh avails nothing because he just spent a good portion of this same discourse telling us that his flesh would be “given for the life of the world” (Jn 6:51, cf. 50-58). So to what was he referring? The flesh is a New Testament term often used to describe human nature apart from God’s grace.

    For example, Christ said to the apostles in the Garden of Gethsemane, “Watch and pray that you may not enter into temptation; the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak” (Mk 14:38). According to Paul, if we are in “the flesh,” we are “hostile to God” and “cannot please God” (cf. Rom 8:1-14). In First Corinthians 2:14, he tells us, “The unspiritual man does not receive the gifts of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.” In First Corinthians 3:1, Paul goes on, “But I, brethren, could not address you as spiritual men, but as men of the flesh, as babes in Christ.” It requires supernatural grace in the life of the believer to believe the radical declaration of Christ concerning the Eucharist. As Jesus himself said both before and after this “hard saying”: “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him” (Jn 6:44, cf. 6:65). Belief in the Eucharist is a gift of grace. The natural mind—or the one who is in “the flesh”—will never be able to understand this great Christian truth.

    3) On another level very closely related to our last point, Christ said, “It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail,” because he wills to eliminate any possibility of a sort of crass literalism that would reduce his words to a cannibalistic understanding. It is the Holy Spirit that will accomplish the miracle of Christ being able to ascend into heaven bodily while being able simultaneously to distribute his body and blood in the Eucharist for the life of the world. A human body, even a perfect one, apart from the power of the Spirit could not accomplish this.

    4) That which is spiritual does not necessarily equate to that which has no material substance. It often means that which is dominated or controlled by the Spirit.

    One thing we do not want to do as Christians is to fall into the trap of believing that because Christ says his words are “spirit and life,” or “spiritual,” they cannot involve the material. When speaking of the resurrection of the body, Paul wrote: “It is sown a physical body, it is raised a spiritual body” (1 Cor 15:44). Does this mean we will not have a physical body in the resurrection? Of course not. In Luke 24:39, Jesus made that clear after his own Resurrection: “See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; handle me, and see; for a spirit has not flesh and bones as you see that I have.”

    The resurrected body is spiritual, and indeed we can be called spiritual as Christians inasmuch as we are controlled by the Spirit of God. Spiritual in no way means void of the material. That interpretation is more gnostic than Christian. The confusion here is most often based upon confusion between spirit—a noun—and the adjective spiritual. When spirit is used, e.g., “God is spirit” in John 4:24, it is then referring to that which is not material. However, the adjective spiritual is not necessarily referring to the absence of the material; rather, it is referring to the material controlled by the Spirit.

    Thus, we could conclude that Jesus’ words, “It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail” have essentially a twofold meaning. Only the Spirit can accomplish the miracle of the Eucharist, and only the Spirit can empower us to believe the miracle.”

    • Kamau41

      Beautiful explanation and commentary of the Eucharist from Tim Staples.

  • susan

    But Randall a LOT of leaders DO have that ideology. The people have to be warned NOT to associate themselves with these types of leaders and their organizations. Both sides are complicit. The average European must be very careful not to fall for the deception.

    • Kamau41

      Absolutely right on….This is the crux of the message that so many just don’t get sadly.

      Unfortunately, most will not get it until it is too late!