The Armies Of The Antichrist Are Near, And Russia Will Take The Victory (Part 4)

By Walid Shoebat (Exclusive) 

THE HUNT FOR GOG

The error in equating Magog with Russia can be easily discovered once we read the claims: they always stretch historyto encompass the desired geographic location. This is found in every anti-Russia prophecy material that espouses to use history.

To show the errors requires a book on its own, but perhaps one example will suffice; the departed prophecy author Grant Jeffrey quotes reputable historian Rawlinson, Jeffrey says, “The areas… that were ruled by the Scythians are located south of Russia and in the southern republics of the Commonwealth of Independent states (the former USSR).” (Grant Jeffrey, Final Warning, p. 123) Although Jeffrey correctly quotes Rawlinson to only have a false conclusion while he ignored that Rawlinson is speaking of “southern” Russia, which today are all Islamic.

While Rawlinson identifies Meshech with Moschi, he outrightly rejects the idea that  Moschi is Moscow:

Some have found in the Moshci the founders of Moscow, the ancestors of the present Muscovites. But this identification has no historical or ethnological basis, resting wholly on the similarity of the names. (Rawlinson, The Origin of Nations, p. 179, f)

George Rawlinson

George Rawlinson

They then love to reference formidable historians like Josephus, Philo, Hippolytus of Rome, Pliny the Elder, Maimonides, and Hesiod the father of Greek didactic poetry, but these either simply point to the Scythians as Magog or point to southern Russia and Asia Minor (Turkey).

But when we examine some of the greatest biblical reference manuals, like the Macmillan Bible AtlasOxford Bible Atlas,The Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, The Moody Atlas of Bible Lands, The Zondervan Illustrated Bible Dictionary, the IVP Bible Background Commentary, The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary, The Catholic Encyclopedia and The Matthew Henry Complete Commentary; they all locate MagogMeshechTubalGomer and Beth Togarmah in Asia Minor or in the landmass between ancient Armenia and Media (1)—in short, the Republics south of Russia and north of Israel, comprised of Turkey, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Turkestan, Chechnya,  etc. but all these are all Muslim nations.

Josephus

Josephus

The Bible then sets the record straight when we examine Ezekiel 30 comparing it to Ezekiel 38, we find “Cush,” “Put,” and “Lydia”. Lydia is not Russia but Turkey, which is the same as Magog, Meshech, Tubal, Togormah, and Gomer in Ezekiel 38.

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Some even try to stretch it by other means so they say that because the passage points to the “farthest north,” as referring to Russia. But the word “farthest” is not to be found in the Bible which states “north quarters” (v.6) and “north parts” (v.15) in which is the north sides. It is possible this refers to Antichrist who rules that region (Isaiah 14:13).

Map showing Lydia

Map showing Lydia

Gog, as the Bible mandates, is of the land of Magog, a very specific place, and he is the ruler, “chief prince” of his domain called “Meshech and Tubal” which are the ancient Moschi/Mushki and Tubalu/Tibareni peoples who dwelled in the area around, primarily south of, the Black and Caspian Seas in Ezekiel’s day. All these are given for locators to pin point the area and are not intended to lead us on a stretch as to where we follow all genealogical migrations. It is actually far simpler than some make it.

The error of the “Magog is Russia” theory arose from the Scofield Study Bible, which identifies Mesheck and Tubal with the modern Russian cities of Moscow and Tobolsk later to be popularized by Tim LaHaye and Hal Lindsey’s Late Great Planet Earth. The only basis for this interpretation is the somewhat similar sound of the two words; thus, Meshech sounds like Moscow, and Tubal sounds like Tobolsk.

CI Scofield

CI Scofield

However, one cannot simply take a word from an ancient Semitic language (in this case, Hebrew) and find a correlation to a modern name from a drastically different language (in this case an early form of Scandinavian) simply because the two words “sound the same.” While this may be convincing to some for the sole reason of phonetics, it is very irresponsible hermeneutics and is not supported by history.

But perhaps the greatest twist in most of the works we see circulating the sphere of prophecy is that the battle in Ezekiel 38 is not a battle that erupts prior to Armageddon as is commonly claimed but is Armageddon.

The Siege of Malta of 1565, in which Christians defeated the Turks

The Siege of Malta of 1565, in which Christians defeated the Turks

Why do they insist that it erupts before Armageddon? The answer is simple; Islam as this unfolding prophecy according to the buffs, is concerned would someday partner with Russia’s evil Gog (Ezekiel 38) and would simply be aprelude or else how will we usher in the real threat, Europe(the Beast) headed by a European Antichrist.

This is the main problem that many prophecy teachers in the West teach that the invading coalition of nationsdescribed in Ezekiel 38-39 is not the army of Antichrist, but of another army entirely different, led by some other evil world leader who is destroyed prior to Christ’s coming todefeat Antichrist.

But this is pure gymnastics since they cannot overlook that Ezekiel 38-39, which clearly describes a Muslim coalition of nations does not support their European Antichrist paradigm. For this reason they are forced to find a way to divorce the entire battle of Gog and Magog from the main excitement they sold when the European Union began when Greece joined as the tenth nation. This theory fell apart when over twenty nations joined this union. The only backup they use to create their paradigm is that Daniel 9 alludes to a European coalition since the Romans—and by extention—Europeans are who destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem.

But even such references support my view, a close examination of Daniel 9, where the Bible says that it would be the “people of the prince to come” (v.26) are the people of the Antichrist who would destroy the Jewish Temple. In other words, the ethnic peoples of whom the future Antichrist would be the leader would destroy the Jewish Temple, which was fulfilled in 70 A.D.

But when we examine real history, we find out that the primary group that carried out this destruction was the tenth legion of the Roman army (Legion X Fretensis), which was stationed in Antioch. Antioch was also the area fromwhich the tenth legion drew most of its recruits of theseethnic peoples.

These soldiers were primarily Syrians and Arabs. Today, Antioch is located within the borders of Turkey, on the southeastern corner of Turkey near Syria. As such, this is yet another nail in their coffin and a witness to the notion that the Antichrist would come from the region of modern Turkey and not Europe. Daniel 9 is also supportedby Daniel 11, where Antichrist was prefigured by Antiochus IV Epiphanies, the “King of the North” or the ruler of the Seleucid Division of the Greek Empire which covered a large portion of modern Turkey.

 

Zechariah 9 clearly lists Yavan/Ionia (Turkey) as the primary player in the Last-Days attack against Israel. Many will have missed this prophecy due to translation: “I will rouse your sons, O Zion, against your sons, O Greece (Yavan, Ionia).”

Ionia is in Turkey.

The key aspect of this passage is that “Jehovah will appear over them”.

It also seems that Turkey will face Russia: “But news from the east and the north shall trouble him; therefore he shall go out with great fury to destroy and annihilate many … yet he shall come to his end, and no one will help him.” (Daniel 11:44-45)

North of Turkey would be most likely Russia. History will repeat itself and it will be the Russo-Turkish Wars all over again. The result is as the Bible declares; “yet he shall come to his end, and no one will help him. (v. 45)” The end of Turkey is likely being at the hands of Russia (north) and other allies (Ezekiel 28:7-8).

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(1) Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge. Dictionary Edition Schaff Philip (1819-1893) Grand Rapids, MI: Baker. Book House, 1953 Volume 5 Page 14. See also Watson’s Biblical & Theological Dictionary, Catholic Bible Dictionary, P.p 324)

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  • richinnameonly

    North of Turkey is Russia, so that makes sense if you conclude the army of antichrist is Turkey. But for those who suppose that Russia is the army of antichrist, who is north of Russia that they would get concerned about? Eskimos?
    Some hear or see the word Rosh and immediately assume Russia.

  • Rexlion

    The whole thing about Turkey and the antichrist makes some sense. I don’t recall ever hearing that about Ionia being in Turkey, until this writing.

  • Lisa Cherry

    I agree 100% with these arguments against Russia being Magog, and I
    agree that Putin seems to have more morals than America these days. I
    can see how God will use Russia to come agaisnt Turkey in the end. Thank you Walid for being a voice of Biblical reason.

    You all need to watch the videos revmichellehopkins posted
    recently. There are 4 of them and you really need to watch them. Here
    is the first one: MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT REVEALED to the WORLD!!! ~Part 1I
    think the makers of the videos, Armageddon News, are post-tribulation
    defenders which I disagree with, but these videos are powerful proof for
    the following:
    They make an irrefutable case for Suadi Arabia/Mecca being Mystery Babylon,
    Medo-Persia (Iran) being the Bear, Greece (Turkey) being the Leopard,
    Babylon (Iraq) being The Lion, and the Arabs (meaning mixed people)
    being the mixed Beast.

    After watching these powerful videos I’m
    convinced they are correct. But God always deals in shadows and types
    preceding the literal fulfillment, so I still see America as a shadow
    and type of a future literal destruction of Mystery Babylon (Saudi
    Arabia/Mecca). I believe America shares the same description and will
    also be destroyed prior to Mecca/Saudi Arabia. The continents of North
    and South America were hidden from the worlds knowledge, just like this
    age of grace was hidden in the mind of God, until after the nation of
    Israel rejected the Messiah. The early puritans who settled America saw
    themselves as a covenanted people just like Israel, a city on a Hill to
    shine the LIGHT of Jesus to the world. Therefore, I believe America
    also has a city that is a shadow/type of Mecca, the opposite of God’s
    covenanted people, especially since we now have a Muslim in chief in the
    White House leading America in direct opposition to God’s Word, with
    the intent to destroy this land that has been so blessed by God, and the
    people who love Him. I think Russia (Bear), Germany (Leopard), Great
    Britain (Lion), America (the eagles wings on the lion) may be shadows
    and types that may possibly be destroyed when this age of grace ends.
    Those are my thoughts currently anyway, not saying they are correct, but
    that is what I see lately.

  • H2o2Bill

    This is more like it I’m on section 4 things I can see for myself.

  • I am trying to follow along with this but it gets confusing… l am not too good at the ancient history of all this.

    • sumsrent

      Don’t feel bad Dusty… the angel who appeared unto Daniel told him to seal the book up until the end times. Ever since… the Scholars & Theologians have disagreed with their interpretations… it’s hard to grasp…

      Even look at the comments here and how they’ve dropped off… it’s a tough subject to understand.

      One thing that brought me here to the Shoebat ministry was how my heart didn’t agree everyone else’s theories of Russia coming against Israel… as a communist nation. Every bit of what Walid says here refutes those theories…

      Not to mention it was “Jews” who created Communism… “Jews” who stole Israel from the muslims… “Jews” who ran the banks of the world… “Jews” who bent on world domination…

      When the opposite was true… everything was pointing to how the “Jews” were destroying themselves…

      My heart was telling me it was Islamic nations…

      And when the televangelists were drawing their northern line straight through Turkey into Russia… it baffled me. I kept disagreeing in my head… especially since Istanbul Turkey was once Capital of the Roman Empire… known then as Constantinople.

      And when I heard Walid talking about Turkey… it had my attention! Finally… I never heard anyone focus in that direction before.

      Here is a website that gives a breakdown of the events… [I personally don’t agree with the Rapture at the beginning…] but it should explain a bit more how this all falls together.

      end-times-bible-prophecy[dot]com/end-times-timeline.html <<< Remove the [dot] and place a . there.

      And make note… this particular website places Russia as Gog & Magog which Walid [and I… if I can say that] disagree with. But it puts a perspective on how the events happen.

      • sumsrent

        Update…

        In Part Six… Walid gives credible evidence to how the Gog Magog War is NOT a prelude to the Peace Treaty… and when we read the entire 38th chapter of Ezekiel… the whole event is clearly about Israel cleaning up and how… “the house of Israel shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day and forward.” and… “Neither will I hide my face any more from them:”

      • H2o2Bill

        Come post at TruNews.

        Hey I do disagree with you the Jews never stole Israel from anyone. if you want to see a really amazing set of films order one of the packages from this website. “The Forsaken Promise” & “The Silent Exodus” are the two very best of them all in my opinion.

        How can a indigenous people occupy a land or steal land? The Jews and the people we today call Palestinians once lived side by side in the land with no problems. Great Britain also prevented many Jews from escaping Germany by not granting them visas in the land of Palestine. You had outsiders stir up the Muslims from time to time under British rule. After the war there was a ship called the “Exodus” leaving Germany with Jews on it headed for the land of Palestine/Israel and it was stopped by British war ships and sent back to Germany where the people were put into camps (not concentration camps). Great Britain actually said they would bomb Jerusalem if they declared independence.

        As Israel was claiming independence and reclaiming the land as their own. The Arabs told the people we now call the Palestinian people to leave Jerusalem because they were going to destroy all the Jews and then they could return. Well the Jews won the wars and the Arabs lied to the Palestinian people telling them all kinds of lies of what them terrible Jews would do to them. The Palestinian people have been used ever since as pawns so others can scream occupation.

        The News Paper called the Jerusalem Post of today was called the Palestine Post in 1932.

        The Brits did defeat the Turks to obtain the land but the Brits certainly didn’t want to give the land up either. Much better details in the films I need to watch them again.

        I also don’t think Jews invented Communism either individuals that were Jews may have had a hand in creating Communism/Socialism but to say Jews created Communism, is not accurate in my opinion. Lenin also had Russian, German and Swedish blood in him too.

        I highly recommend the two films and some of the others that come in the packages with the two I mentioned earlier. You wont be disappointed. I cried my eyes out watching them seeing Bible prophecy being fulfilled right before my eyes was simply amazing. Probably the most amazing things I ever seen on film.

        I don’t want to argue over this this is just another perspective. To be honest I learned a lot from the films. I have found some of the information from other sources also.

        And like I said before come over to TruNews and do some posting.

        Bill

  • armand011 .

    It would be best if it were confined to the Turkish state and military forces only, though..

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  • Hans

    Daniel 8 has another mystery that i feel has been over looked for many years. The angel Gabriel says in the chapter that the vision is for end times a number of times, but many say it is history and future – I’m inclined to listen to the Messenger sent by the almighty.

    Grecia strong’s number: H3120 and TWOT Reference: 855 = Javan, Yavan or Ionia. This is also the location close to Turkey and not Greece. The reason the translators used Grecia and not Yavan was because at one time the Greeks controlled this area. You will also notice that H3120 is almost always translated as Yava in the early parts of the old testament but then used a new location later. It cant be both, is has to be Grecia or Yavan.

    So my summation is that Media and Persia will come into conflict with Yavan (Turkey) in the near future because the angel said so.

    So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.

  • “Is Ezekiel 38-39 a mirror of Revelation 19-20?”

    Once you understand that Gog is the devil possessing the man of sin everything falls into place:

    “When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle.”

    So after the devil is bound, he is loosened after a thousand years. These are separate events SAME devil.

    Gog is the Antichrist.

    Here is part 6 which will answer your quest (I suggest you read all parts:

    http://shoebat.com/2014/02/23/russia-will-defeat-gog-magog/

    Here you can start at PART I:

    http://shoebat.com/2014/02/23/armies-antichrist-near-russia-will-take-victory-part-1/

    But the ultimate explanation is in God’s War on Terror, my book.

  • Bravo. To believe that Russia is the big bad player in this immoral, chaotic global mess is absurd. GREAT WORK, Walid!

  • Bilbo

    Another incredible biblical survey I looked up while studying Ezekiel 38. Walid, thank you three times over and the Lord Jesus bless you and yours.

    You have encouraged me to question EVERY modern development in the Church, and I come to find that Scofield was a former convicted and imprisoned con man hireling of Rothschild, to infiltrate the church with a skewed hyper Zionism, as later manifest in the likes of John Hagee. Let me briefly state that modern Israel is a biblical fulfillment of the returned Jewish diaspora and that God used a devil like Rothschild to fulfill His purposes; I am not anti Israel by any means lest I be found fighting God Himself.

    Here’s a link to get started, not well referenced, but a good starting point. In this Rothschildian research I find it necessary to separate the wheat from the tares and not throw the baby out with the bath water.
    http://whale.to/a/scofield_bible1.html