BOMBSHELL: Jonathan Cahn ADMITS His Books And His Jewish Calendar Forces Messianic Believers To Deny Jesus Was The Messiah

By Walid Shoebat

For all Christians, Jesus being Messiah, is the central key issue for the faith. This is also true for the Hebrew Roots Movement who use The Hebrew Calendar as the central foundation  for setting prophetic Jubilee and Sabbatical years (Shemitah). This became a major problem when Messianic Rabbi, Jonathan Cahn was confronted on one TV program, when one of his major promoters discovered that his date-setting predictions (of supposed coming calamities on America) ended up denying Jesus as the Messiah had him admit he based his book using calculations based on his own privately concocted new Hebrew Calendar, which never even existed.

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THE MILLION DOLLAR PROBLEM

We will discuss Cahn’s confession (more on that stunning story, see Jonathan Cahn’s Confession below) but we first need to set the stage. To these movements, the Hebrew calendar, Hebrew language, Hebrew dress code, keeping Kosher … are the modus operandi for observing ancient festivities, especially when they declare “Jubilee years,” or “Sabbath years” (Shemetah).

But there is a major problem: using the current Hebrew Calendar completely makes null-and-void that Jesus was The Messiah, while insisting on the Hebrew Bible (done to avoid using Greek also undermines Jesus’s Messiahship. This Biblical Hebrew Calendar, several Messianic movements claims to being the  “Creator’s calendar” that “provides accurate setting for Jubilee and Sabbatical years” is incorrect. There are endless theories and new concoctions on when these dates are to be set.

First of all, no one can pin-point when creation all started; the calendar which was created by rabbis who denied Jesus as the Messiah, is nowhere found in the Bible and for anyone who claims the faith of Messianic Judaism, to insist on the calendar’s  accuracy would make Daniel 9’s Seventy Weeks un-qualify Jesus as Messiah.

 

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This presents a mega-problem with eternal consequences. While some object “why should that matter so long I believe in Jesus?”

Well, just read on.

As you will see demonstrated here, unless these deny that Jesus was the Messiah, it is impossible to follow the Hebrew Calendar. Any historian worth his salt can tell you that when the Jews calculated the Hebrew Calendar, they began by studying the history of the Babylonian Empire when it was overthrown by the Medo-Persian Empire (539 B.C.), and it is the length of the Persian period that is in dispute which threw off the date. The rabbinical chronology says it lasted 52 years (with 34 years of domination over Israel). The accepted chronology of historical experts says it lasted 207 years.

So which is right? The answer is: history and not the rabbis who knew limited history.

The Jewish History in Conflict by Mitchell First, an Orthodox Jew himself is amongst several scholars who proved that one major goal of using the Hebrew Calendar is to displace Jesus as Messiah. Using the best historians pointing first to the narrative works of the Greek historians of the Persian period, men like Herodotus and Thucydides who agree that the Persian rule spanned the years 539 to 332 B.C. and included the reign of ten kings, not four as the Rabbis had thought. Mitchell First states that it is unlikely that the Jewish sages in the 2nd Century had access to these histories, but even if they did, they probably held them in contempt just as many hold in contempt experts today because of their religious or denominational bent.

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The unified testimony of later historians like Diodorus and Plutarch in the 1st Century A.D., all of these historians record a much longer Persian period than what is contained in the rabbinical chronology.

Even the conventional chronology which consists of Old Persian cuneiform inscriptions from ancient Persian palaces which were deciphered in the 19th Century agrees exactly with the chronology of the Persian kings constructed from the narrative works of the Greek historians.

The rabbinical error occurred because of the misinterpretation of Daniel 11:2 which mentions only four Persian kings. This passage, as it turns out, was never meant to be an enumeration of all the Persian kings but rather a reference to the mightiest whose reigns were of the greatest consequence to the Jewish believers.

This brings us to another major problem with Prophecy ‘experts’ who pay little attention to history. It is not only the Rabbis who err by not acquiring the perspective of valid reputable historians, a similar case-in-point is when theologians interpret Daniel 7, when God warns of “four beasts”. These four empires were never meant to include every empire, but only the main empires that threaten God’s people until the end of the age. John in fact, gives us a sequence of seven kingdoms. Daniel was not concerned or even included any of the other ancient empires from China to the Aztec. It was only the Empires that threaten God’s people: believers throughout Old Testament and New Testament times.

If we are to be concerned with all empires, are we then to be concerned with the Holy Catholic Roman Empire as many claim? If so, why not be concerned with the British Empire, which is predominately Protestant? This would switch the Antichrist from coming out of Catholic Rome to Protestant England.

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We documented countless books that ignore History as key, see case here, where many theologians make outlandish claims realizing that fact-cheking and history is not the gift of the believer, especially Americans who are generally poor on the subject of history. No one can understand the Bible being ignorant of history. The Bible is not only theology, but is also history.

Likewise, calendar dissidents who insist we follow “the calendar God gave to Moses” cannot go back for historical support more than the period of the latter part of the Second Temple and the third and fourth centuries AD where rabbis who wanted nothing more than to remove Christ as the obstacle in their interpretations.  The rabbis, as it turns out, misinterpreted Daniel’s famous prophecy of the 70 weeks of years (Daniel 9:24-27) where God was going to accomplish a period of 490 years commencing with the reconstruction of the Jewish Temple. Their starting point was the destruction of Solomon’s Temple and their ending point was the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 A.D. They then assumed that was a time period of 490 years from which they subtracted 70 years for the Babylonian captivity, leaving 420 years for the life span of the Second Temple.

But as history tells us, the actual time period from the start of its construction to its destruction was 527 years, a  difference of 107 years. When you add the 70 years of captivity, you come to a difference of 177 years. And to that must be added the 79 years between the first return in 536 B.C. and the edict to rebuild in 457 B.C. That brings the total difference to whopping 256 years!

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Benny Isaacson, another person who has studied this issue in detail in his article in the Encyclopedia Judaica states that Rabbi Yosef seemed to be bound by a prior rabbinic tradition to assign 420 years to the Second Temple period. Thus, after Yosef distributed a total of 386 years to the periods of Greek, Hasmonean and Roman dominion, he was left with only 34 years to give to the period of Persian dominance. Mitchell quotes three Jewish scholars who bluntly state that they are convinced that the idea that the Jewish Sages purposely stated an incorrect chronology of Daniel 9 in order to prevent people from using the passage to accurately predict the time when the Messiah would come.

Accepting the Hebrew Calendar would mean one also has to accept the historically inaccurate interpretation of the passage by the Jewish Sages namely, that Daniel’s period of time ends in 70 A.D., then the 483 years falls in 63 A.D., at least 30 years after the death of Jesus, this would be ruling Jesus out as a candidate for the Messiah.

Some Messianic crazies, realizing the problem, are trying to even come up with a different calendar saying that we are now in 6014 which is a different matter for a different time.

So let us now take piece by piece what self-appointed Rabbi, Jonathan Cahn did when he frequently used the Hebrew calendar to send a message from God of an impending catastrophe. Cahn ended up pointing to September 13th, tomorrow, in which he claims we might face an impending catastrophe in the U.S.

Not much will happen tomorrow.

People need to be warned, playing with calendars is a sign of hidden-hatred towards traditional Christianity as if the Church lived in slumber until we all spoke a few words of Hebrew. The Bible clearly warns us that it is the ‘spirit of Antichrist’ that desires to “change set times” (Daniel 7:25). Hitler, a Jews hater, wanted to change the calendar to when Nazism established its dominion in Germany. The same was for the evil French Revolution when the monarchy was abolished, and even Islam, way before, changed their calendar to Hijrah when Muhammad occupied the Jewish city of Yathrib in Arabia.

Many are hoarding cash under the mattress and are keeping Kosher fearing Obama’s approved Halal-Kosher spam.

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There is a dire-warning with meddling in such calculations and Christians following Hebrew roots (including all the date-predictions) need to take note, that casting an impending catastrophe on the United States based on certain calculations are simply scare-tactics that are meant to sell an agenda. Catastrophes happen within God’s providence and on His own timing. Anyone can tell that the Stock Market these days is doing poorly. This is not a sign.

JONATHAN CAHN’S CONFESSION

To show how poorly Cahn’s homework was, I will expose the funniest but saddest story. One defender of Cahn is David Reagan of the Lion and the Lamb Ministries, another one of the “Holy Roman Empire is Antichrist” theorists, who jumped-up-and-down when I shared a platform with him in Oklahoma for my proposal that Antichrist will not rule the entire world, especially America. Reagan promoted and featured  Cahn’s works in one article declaring him as “prophet to America”:

” … Look folks, many of us need to stop nitpicking everything the Lord is trying to tell us and just listen to what He is saying in whatever manner He chooses to say it …

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Reagan chastises anyone who claims that Cahn is a “false prophet” then sets the biblical parameter, that to prove otherwise, Cahn has to do some date setting and be wrong: 

“the Bible defines a false prophet as one who prophesies events that do not come to pass. If Rabbi Cahn prophesied that a specific event would take place on a specific date and that date were to come and go without the event happening, then he could legitimately be labeled as a false prophet. But he has done no such thing.”

So here comes the kicker, Cahn later wrote his Shemetah in 2014 setting up dates galore. Reagan then was left with but few choices, especially that Reagan exposed how the Hebrew Calendar denounces the Messiah. Reagan had to either: 1) support Cahn’s theory or 2) Accept a faulty Hebrew Calendar which proves that Jesus was not the Messiah or 3) get Cahn to repent of his weird calculations or 4) denounce Cahn as “false prophet” as he proclaimed in his previous article where he announced Cahn as “An End Time Prophet To America”.

Reagan being caught between The Rock (Messiah) and the hard place confronted Cahn on his TV and the short debate ensued:

“One of the problems I have with your theory is that the Jewish calendar is a mess. It’s a mess! It’s lacking about 250 years that should be in there, because the sages short-termed the Persian rule …”

Awakened to this fact Cahn argued back:

“the Shemitahs were observed. The every 50-year Jubilees were not” … it is very hard to figure out anything with the Jubilee, so, there is a mystery here …”

After Cahn admitted the major hole in his theory, its impossible to figure out Jubilee years, the madness continued where Cahn abandoned the Hebrew Calendar and then the two tried to establish yet a new Hebrew Calendar altogether. They argued as to when such a calendar should start. “When Israel became a nation in 1948,” argued Reagan. He needed to vindicate his prophet. “No” argued Cahn, it should be “when the Jews started returning in the 19th Century”.

Both fell in a Jesus style checkmate!

Reagan would have to announce Cahn as a “false prophet” or Cahn had to adjust his date-setting. There was no other choice. After all, Reagan declared: “If Rabbi Cahn prophesied that a specific event would take place on a specific date and that date were to come and go without the event happening, then he could legitimately be labeled as a false prophet.”

Cahn objected to Reagan’s proposal. Why? It made a huge problem for Cahn since the Shemitah years are now 1954-1955 (where nothing of significance happened) all the way to 2010 (where no curse happened) and then this coming Shemitah (tomorrow’s) will instead land on 2017.

Realizing the whole puzzle was falling apart Cahn then gives the most meaningless gobbledygook; an unintelligible use of abstract nonsense:

Here is the thing, Dave, the fact is regardless of when we think the Shemitah falls, here are the years of financial collapse that happen on Elul 29. It’s universal as far as when it happens. Financial drops happen on the Shemitah sign. Regardless of what one thinks in the way of timing, go back to the fact that these exact times all happen every seven years. Look again at Wall Street. Look back. It is happening according to Elul 29. It’s like saying God wove the Sabbath Year into His judgment plan.

It is nothing but a shotgun blast of absurdities. God “wove the Sabbath year,” which “no one can determine” into the Stock-Market, regardless of the rule that a Hebrew Calendar “must be observed”?

Everything fell apart.

The second trick is simple to catch, take a market dip on Elul 29, (September 29th, 2008) mark it, and measure back seven years and claim that this was the starting point of the Shemitah seven year sabbatical. Then announce that as ‘evidence for fulfillment of a seven-year sabbatical’ where “God wipes out all debt”.

Anyone can take any span of time and can make up seven year intervals for all sorts of things. I can say that wars happen every seven years and can find a war in 2001 and another in 2008. The only problem is that a keen eye can also find some battles in 2002, 2003 … and therefore destroy my theory.

The other major fib, Cahn made a “seven-year Sabbatical” as a rule by using the rise and fall of the stock market. Seven-year stock market cataclysms is simply false. We took him on his challenge and he is always welcome to call, we will air the debate (he won’t since he can’t) Cahn knows the gig-is-up. So here is the chart from the entire century and we have no “sabbath cycles” whatsoever:

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We can find falls in 1901, 1904, 1915, 1918, 1920 and in 1929 where the Shemitah (Sabbath year) was linked to the Great Depression, yet the crash of 1929 was not even on a Shemitah year (that is even if we accept Cahn’s calendar when the Shemitah began).

Even September 13th, this coming Sunday, where Cahn predicts the possible catastrophe, the stock market is closed so it just might be fire-and-brimstone. God forbid your “flight is on the Sabbath” and forget Sunday worship, head for the hills, just in case.

Then we go from 1937 to 1941 where the U.S. dipped into a correction and then we seem to be blessed again all the way to the Haight-Ashbury‘s days when it was all out sex and drug season which started in the 60’s all the way to the early 70’s. It all zigzagged pretty steady without falling on any seven-year Shemitahs.

Then when America finally had enough partying, during that time it was a stock-market blessing.

Then God cursed us in 1974 with a dip in the stock-market when America slightly repented. So when Calvary Chapels boomed all over America and when Billy Graham was at the height of his ministry spreading the Gospel and was deemed as “America’s pastor” in the middle seventies it seems that God “cursed us” by dipping the market.

If we accept Cahn’s premise, it is the devil, and not God, who is the controller of the Stock Market and we are getting cursed when we “obey” and are blessed when we “disobey”.

Then in 1976 we must have repented and the stock shortly after boomed all the way till 2000 to only have behave badly again in 2001 when we must have deserved Al-Qaeda and in 2007 it crashed because we elected Obama.

By then, the Almighty must have failed to send us Prophet Jonathan Cahn to predict 9/11 before these catastrophes unfolded and he only came after the fact to “deliver us from evil”.

Realizing the gash in his theory Cahn had to save face, his last attempt to defend his falling deck of cards he gave another fib:

“Dave, you once mentioned in an article that the 2008 Stock Market plunge was by 777 points. Did you know that was also the day of the seventh year — the Shemitah year — from the Bible?

Really? A Shemitah year from the Bible? No one knows when these biblical Shemitah years fall on today’s calendar.

And to show how he concocted his scheme is quite easy. You take 2008 crash, since its an Elul 29th when the market crashed, and go back to Elul 29th 2001 and its voila! you have set the correct Hebrew calendar, and its “straight from Scripture” as Cahn says:

“these exact times all happen every seven years” and even emphasizes “down to the hour and minute”. The nearly 700 point drop in the DJIA (just over 7%) on 9/17/2001 and 777.7 point drop in the DJIA on 9/29/2008 (just below 7%) were two of the three largest Dow point drops in U.S. history

But this is also false. Here are the dates of concern:

September 23rd, 1987 (Elul 29, 5747) to September 5th, 1994 (Elul 29, 5754)
September 17, 2001 (Elul 29, 5761) to September 29, 2008 (Elul 29, 5769)

So what happened in the stock market on September 23, 1987? Here is the New York Times:

“The stock market surged higher, propelling the Dow Jones industrial average to its biggest single-day point gain ever. The sudden 75.23 point surge in the Dow stunned traders and analysts alike.”

And what happened on September 5th, 1994? Nothing. It was Labor Day just as September 13th, 2015 (tomorrow) is a Sunday holiday.

So why focus on September 17th, 2001 just because the Dow fell 6.98%, when it also fell 4% on March 12th, 2001? What about March 14th, 2000 when the stock dipped 5.66%? Why not start at the year 2000?

And what about the 2008 crash on Sept 29 when the stock market fell 6.98% [God missed .02% to make a perfect number],  was it the end of a Shemitah year? No.

Again, No one knows when the Shemitah year begins or ends. No one.

In other words, Cahn chose one day (after the fact) where the stock dipped on an Elul 29th, and viola, here ends the Sabbath year regardless that there was no dip 7 years previosuly on the same day.

But it even gets worse. We also had similar dips on October 7th 2008, 9th, 10th, 15th and 22th and December 1.

Cahn, realizing later that his prediction falls on a Sunday (ouch) notes that the last day that markets will be open prior to Elul 29 will be Friday, September 11, 2015. This is yesterday.

Anyone got eaten by invading giant mosquitos? Any crashes?

Indeed, a giant crane fell in Mecca.

Cahn’s, Blitz’s and Hagees March 20th solar eclipses in 2015 turned bankrupt and now we must wait for the other which will occur on the last day of the Shemitah tomorrow.

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And so when Reagan challenged him to ensure his validity (accepting that the use of the Jewish calendar was false), he then  pulled another whopper, he accepted that the Hebrew Calendar can never determine Jubilee years. So to cover up his tricks, Cahn then hid behind a front claiming that “hey if I am wrong” why then are all these Wall-Street experts consulting with him:

“after I wrote the book, all these Wall Street guys acknowledged the seven year cycle …”

No one, not even Cahn can confirm any major figure from Wall-Street consulting with him or admitting that a seven-year cycle exists.

Many prophecy “experts” turn to “consultants”. Joel Rosenberg, another prophecy ‘expert’ claims to be Netanyahu’s advisor when there is no evidence of such a claim. Anyone is welcome to try to find it and send us the evidence. From having a tourism Pow-Wow where Israel selects Christians to aid in encouraging tourism from the U.S., to becoming a major consultant for the Prime Minister of the State of Israel, is simply applying gluten (stretch the fact). Always adding as much gluten to prove a best-seller is quite the job when the followers are mostly naive.

Reagan had to finally write an expose and abandon Cahn’s work “I think this new book by Cahn is most unfortunate” yet never followed up on his promise to denounce a date-setter’s false prediction as “false prophet”, especially when these use a calendar that denies Jesus as Messiah.

And why should Reagan worry. Reagan is an annihilationist by his own admission. “Hell is temporary” and then comes complete annihilation of all the unsaved where pain is no more.

Here is my prediction (and I rarely make predictions):

PREDICTION 1: The Shemitah will fail this coming Sunday and these false stargazers and prograstinators will run for cover, and huddle behind what is left of the “blood moons”.

PREDICTION 2: They will tell you to wait regardless that the Jewish festivals of 2014-2015, which were bounded by four “blood moons,” the total lunar eclipses, with reddish tinge, failed. And since Tetrads came and gone, they will tell you to “wait for more tetrads to come”.

PREDICTION 3: The so-called faithful will get milked like dumb goats before the slaughter.

PREDICTION 4: When nothing happens September 13th, tomorrow, they will run to huddle behind the last of the Blood Moon Tetrad, which happens to be a Super Blood Moon on September 27-28, 2015. After September 28, John Hagee (whom I also unfortunately knew) and Mark Blitz (whom I turned down a cruise to speak alongside that heretic) will be silent. It will be business as usual.

PREDICTION 5: All this will end up a baseless hoax as with Y2K, Harold Camping’s date setting for the parousia, Gerald Coates’ fixed date New Zealand earthquakes that never came, John Hinkley’s evil being tanked from the earth, Kenneth Copeland’s 1 billion Moslems being saved, the prophetic predictions of Rick Joyner and Bill Johnson concerning Todd Bentley, Benny Hinn’s imprecatory prophecy, the 1991 UK failed prophetic predictions of Mike Bickle and his Kansas City false prophets, and Pensacola apologist Michael Brown (whom I also interviewed with) having people up half of the night in Jerusalem at a messianic conference awaiting the second Pentecost geo-prophetically predicted – the boy has again cried wolf, and the boy’s name is Mark Blitz.

Why am I so confident that my 4 predictions are correct?

It is because no true prophet will ever say: “My goal is not to convert Jews to Christianity” says Blitz who fed his predictions to Hagee and Cahn as they suckled for years off each other.

How could God speak through such Judaizing cults? It is impossible.

You have already watched Cahn on video admitting there is NO WAY to determine Jubilees. All these calculations then fall apart. Yet in his book he completely says the opposite:

“of special note that this is 40th Jubilee Year since Jesus was crucified in Jerusalem. It is also the 70th Jubilee year since the first one was proclaimed by God. The number 40 is the Biblical time period of redemption. The number 70 has the Biblical meaning of perfect completion. So this coming Jubilee Year will very likely have very special meaning for mankind. Perfect completion of redemption”.

A true prophet cannot err in his predictions. Impossible.

THE “REPENT” ARGUMENT DESTROYED

So to save face, they must sound like prophets:

“Be prepared! Be right with God! Repent!”

What few understand is this: using the Bible to do financial astrology is a very serious heresy to God.

These say “repent”  ad nauseum forgetting that they themselves are not “right with God” and are lying through their teeth.

The message is rather strange, that a “financial blessing,” or that “a stock uptick” determines when we must have been good and a dip marks when we are bad. Is God all about money and money is the yardstick?

This is an evil generation.

They even object more: “Cahn said that he never did any date-settings and only called for repentance”.

So lets examine this. Cahn writes: “Nothing significant has to happen,” and “it is wise to note the times”.

So on the one hand a “date is given by the hand of God to judge” while on the other hand “He might not judge” and whether a “shaking and judgment occurs in this Shemitah” or “not,” Cahn leaves no doubt that, “without repentance,” it “will occur,” but only for the U.S and “only God knows when”.

All this is a trickster’s gobbledygook.

So in summary, there is “date-setting” while there is only a claim of “no date-setting” and then there are “judgments”  while there is a claim “there might not be any judgments” and that “Shemitah is only for Israel to observe” while “only America will suffer Shemitah years”. This, all the while sin has reached maximum, when in reality they were better off not knowing Jesus.

Some who argue  that “how dare you. These men know the Lord Jesus Christ”. These need to examine Scripture. The Bible says that someone may “know Jesus” and if they are teaching falsehoods, the Bible says that they are better off to have never known Jesus:

 While they [false teachers] promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. (2 Pet 2:19-20)

A cult is is usually spotted when the followers insist you remain silent.

Are we not supposed to reveal what comes from an author of confusion?

The whole premise of Cahn’s Shemitah: the date-setting, the foundations, everything, it all crumbles, unless they deny that Jesus is The Messiah or else deny their Shemetah. But denying Jesus as “Messiah” will cause their stock crumble. The ironic thing is that the expose of the calendar problems came from one of Cahn’s foremost defender and promoter: David Reagan.

This brings us to another issue: most who talk of being “Bereans” are not so Berean. I have exposed Berean-Call’s works Woman Rides The Beast which was littered with historic fabrications. They too are welcome to debate their issues.

SO WHO TRULY NEEDS TO “REPENT”?

Which gets me to my important two-decade journey where I got so ridiculed for loving Copts, Orthodox and Catholics. To many I was “the unforgivable heretic” who should have “never converted” and it was “better for you [Walid] to have remained a Muslim terrorist”.

So many I met, who claimed they were “sent by the Lord” yet not one, nay, not even one, can confirm that the “Lord” sent them.

These need no repentance?

I have a message to these:

come to me all you who prophecy with miracles, signs and many wonders and I will prove you false. Replicate the Shroud of Turin that we may believe you. But you are less than nothing and your works are utterly worthless; you and whoever chooses you is detestable.

Are we not dealing here with heretics, false prophets and a wicked generation seeking signs and wonders? Aren’t these even graver sins than the sins they are proclaiming judgments when only God can proclaim judgments? Dare you rebuke and you will get chastised by another cult: The Lamb And Lying Ministries.

Adding to the list of participants who aided the heretics are all who promoted the scare-tactics: every website, every radio, every TV and every Church pastor who sold such heresy. This constitutes a huge bulk of this movement.

THEY ADVOCATE REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY

In reality, most of the John Hagee’s Blood Moon “support Israel” crowds and most who even warn to “beware of Replacement Theology” are in fact, anti-Israel and are the most replacement theology advocates ever.

My evidence for Replacement Theology is this: There is no greater Replacement Theology than to take the laws of God which were appointed by God for Israel and to pass them to gentile America, a law that applies only to God’s exclusive covenant people, the Jews, is the crux of what Replacement Theology is.

Hagee’s followers cry out about Blood Moons and see America as an extension of Israel. It is as if one sees his neighbor’s wife as an extension of his harem.

I speak to so many Jews who complain to me about this and in fact see it a hindrance to see Gentiles dressed up in Jewish garbs robbing what is theirs. Just ask Rabbi Tovia Singer, whom I also know personally, he complained about these frauds who guise themselves as Jews when they are pure-bread Gentile mutts and a synagogue of Satan.

Using half-truths is always the method of Conn-artists. While the Bible says that we will have “blood moons” it added: “the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood” (Rev 6:12-13) that including “stars hailing down” …

Even I would reserve that a completely allegoric interpretation to all this could be valid. Now, all of the sudden, we are all to expect this to be just around the corner, while 2 Thessalonians 2 begs to differ?

So many whom I knew and respected turned out heretics. So many where “women teachers” who proclaim messages from God. “Jonathan [Cahn] is a 21 century [prophet] John,” says Jan Markel (whom I also knew and interviewed with several times) as if now the Harbinger needs to be appended to John’s Book of Revelations:

“Jonathan Cahn, a Messianic Jew, is a 21st century John or Jeremiah but in the right sense! He is not some out-of-order prophet. He got stuck with unraveling a code given to him by God. Cahn himself calls it, mind-blowing. Then Ishmael and Isaac meet as Joseph Farah, of Arab heritage, who enters the scene to produce one of the most brilliant films you will ever see, giving the visual effect to further the Harbinger message. Wait! This union just might be of God.”

I know Joseph Farah very well and he is no Arab, he is a proud Lebanese. Christian Lebanese hate to be called Arabs and are proud to say that they are “Phoenicians”. Farah opted for sales. I hope and pray he repents.

Let it all go down the sewer, speaking engagements, radio, TV, it was all as Solomon the Wise said “vanity of vanities”. We can use anything for the cause, selling heretical wares so long we sell, sell, sell.

Angered, that these will drink the judgments of God for lying to sheep, I searched my bookshelve and thrashed to the ground all these works. Everything from signed copies that were given to me by authors of confusion whom I met, I tossed them to the ground, to later be piled in the dustbin, and right into the trash. There are two crowds, the ones who follow God (the wise) and the ones who worship a calf thinking its God (the fools).

Never once since I have became Christian did I ever say “God told me”. Never. For two decades I could not pin-point my finger on the uncomfortable reality I saw everywhere I went from Messianic synagogues to Evangelical churches noticing that something is seriously wrong with most of this modernistic bunch. Something is sickening me. My stomach was always bitter. I am tired of charismatic heresy comparing a Cahn-artist with the prophet John. I finally found the fulfillment of when Scriptures declared:

“People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy” (2 Tim 3:2)

Nothing is more boastful and unholy and is done for the sake of money than to equal someone to one of the greatest of all prophets, John, who boiled in a caldron and is now being used for the love of money. Nothing is worse than what I see from divorces amongst these groups to disobedient children.

They say that September 13 is a day of reckoning with God. But I tell you the truth, September 13th will come and go, and all the reckoning you will get is from me, you heretic sons of Belial.

I am totally convinced that millions of Americans claiming to be “Bible Believers” especially the ones who claim they “love Yeshua” are plain heretics more dangerous than the gambler and the drunkard whom they beg to “repent”.

How could these demand America to “REPENT!” when they themselves are in need of REPENTANCE?

If one wants to spot the heretic fool, it is very simple, just follow Solomon The Wise:

“Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you; rebuke the wise and they will love you.” Proverbs 9:8

These will always post comments unjustly rebuking us. The same goes for books, sell them foolishness, and since we have more of the fools than the wise, they will consume them like rabid dogs. Sell them wisdom, and it’s a narrow gate.

Cahn’s heresies have been peddled since 2012, just enough time to pocket.  Some of the wise say that when these people set dates, they always make themselves look like fools. While that is true, reality is much worse. The real “fools” are everyone who purchased these books and put their money in Conn-men’s pockets. Anyone who aids and abets heretics and false prophets are responsible. Anyone who predicts dates, according to Christ, is a fool and anyone who follows them is even more foolish.

I hate false prophets. The Hebrew Roots Movement who worry about September 13th will die someday with no one but their fleas to morn them.

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    • No its not. Look carefully at the chart. A seven year is imposed.

      • Marco Vincent

        Great summary, Mr. Walid Shoebat. You’re really have a very keen on scriptures and a handful of solid (as a rock) arguments. Way to show us which ones are the wolves and which ones are the real shepherds.

        • Julie LaBrecque

          Good to see you again – stick around.

          • Marco Vincent

            I’ll try…my best. Mom.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            That-a-boy! Really, so good you’re back, and it seems, just in time to battle some perennial heretics and slanderers.

        • Kamau41

          Welcome back Marco. Long time no hear. How have you been?

          • Marco Vincent

            Here and there….a many personal dilemma that is my own struggle. Now its…well Okay. How Are you?

          • Kamau41

            Always busy. We are still holding up the fort strong and fighting the good fight!

          • Marco Vincent

            GOD bless you. Amen.

          • Kamau41

            We are so glad you are back man to join us in this continued battle. There has been so much hate and slander on this ship these days. More than I have ever seen here. God bless you too brother Marco and my prayers are with you.

          • Marco Vincent

            Thanks for your prayer and blessing.
            Keep GOD in your heart, in your life and in your mind and be glad that salvation is at hand. Amen.

        • Grandmere

          Oh, Marco! I have been praying for you. Now you are back. Please stay with us. We do love you so much.

      • Julie LaBrecque

        Clinging to his security blanket, hope he threw the pacifier away.

    • Julie LaBrecque

      What does ‘Reincarnation of Jesus Christ” on your moniker mean?

      • RodK1975

        Probably that a trip to a psychiatric facility is in order…

        • Julie LaBrecque

          I was shocked – is this guy a Hindu-Christian?

          • RodK1975

            Who knows… I must’ve grown up in a religious vacuum where you’re careful about making ridiculous “claims” and you didn’t flippantly throw around things like God’s name and so forth for fear of eternal damnation…

          • Julie LaBrecque

            The creed, recited EVERY Mass – it is ingrained, etched, into our heads. The instant I see or hear something that messes with the personhood of Jesus or the Trinity I go off. Does this guy claim to be a Christian?

          • RodK1975

            I have absolutely no idea but, at this point, anything is possible… I have days, regularly, and I’m sure you do as well, where I find myself thinking.. “Am I praying enough.. Am I repenting enough.. Am I working on having a truly contrite heart and humbling myself and putting my thoughts and attitudes under the authority of Christ?” (And, of course, humanly it’s never enough) Then I come in here and read some of the insanity that’s posted and I feel like I’m not a completely lost cause… Sigh… lol

          • jim gazay

            Examine yourself do see that that you are in the faith (2Cor 13:5) this is a sign of the Holy Spirit (John 16:8) that is wonderful mark of Gods love that He is seasoning with repentence, may God be praised! “2 Praise the Lord with harp: sing unto him with the psaltery and an instrument of ten strings.” (Psalm 33) God bless you brother, pray for me that I might receive the gift of repentance!

          • RodK1975

            God be with you, Jim… Sounds to me like you’re there!

          • Grandmere

            Please pray for me as well.

          • jim gazay

            You got it, May the Lord bless you!

          • Grandmere

            A disturbing thing in his “testimony” was the mysterious presence of the man from India, remember. Then the woman from Hong Kong.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            I didn’t check his comments, just saw the ‘reincarnation of Jesus Christ’ when I hovered over his picture and went ballistic.

          • Grandmere

            This was just a couple of days ago. He said he woke up speaking a heavenly language. Weeks later he went to a church and was prayed over by a man from India. At the time he spoke the language he was, according to his story, NOT a Christian. That is what hit me when you asked the Hindu question. Interesting.

          • Mutants everywhere I tell ya.

        • Grandmere

          Better dust off that straight jacket.

        • Rod, knock it off and stop sending business somewhere else. We have the best psychiatric facility here.

          • Grandmere

            And we have straight jackets, just in case.

          • RodK1975

            Sorry!.. I got carried away again… 😉

          • St Paul admonishes us to be all things to all people. Here, it’s all services. Psychiatric ward, hospital, falafel stand, bar for shooting the breeze, etc…

      • Grandmere

        I just looked and it seems he has changed it. Take a look.

        • Julie LaBrecque

          Still there, put your cursor over the photo.

          • Grandmere

            I did but I must have been too hasty. Will go back and look again.

  • Eric Mueller

    First of all I probably will get hate for this but believe it or not the picture in this article and video are my first time seeing Jonathan Cahn. He looks like a muslim to me with that beard.

    Secondly I acknowledge and recognize that Shoebat and Trevor are trying to help and navigate these murky waters that is prophecy but what is wrong with a little patience? Lyn Leahz has set up a timeline and dates of things to happen in September, with what appears to be the proposal to a Palestinian state up first. If this and the other events do not happen by October 1st, I gladly, happily post on here on October 1st I was wrong to listen to Lyn. Lyn was wrong. I would hope she would also post a video apologizing for posting false information. If she does not apologize or even worse extends the timeline of events, say for example through the rest of 2015, then she is no longer worth my time. For like others she would be stringing me and others along for years with possible disaster news. As mentioned in the article about Cahn let’s have a little patience and see what happens for the month of September. We will not have long to wait, only a little less than 3 weeks.

    • Delta Rain

      Fiscal year starts in October and economist are predicting a big drop, maybe worse?… But I have trouble with Cahn predicting through his novel, The Harbinger, which is classified, by him, as fiction. Why does he confuse claiming it a fiction and claiming it’s true?

      • So what? So what if a big drop happens? It means NOTHING.

        • Countryflowers

          I don’t have any money to “drop” so I will be ok.

          • Delta Rain

            LOL .. Me either. A well-earned lifestyle.

          • Grandmere

            Your riches are safely stored in heaven.

          • Tom_mcewen

            Not to worry, if you don’t have toilet paper you can use government bonds. Thank you Washington for the debt and the inflation to pay it off ( never ).

          • Marco Vincent

            *cough* communist party of china *cough* if you catch my drift?

          • Julie LaBrecque

            CF – Do you think the people in the soup lines during the Great Depression were the people who lost their fortunes when the market crashed? Do you know what happens when banks no longer make loans? It isn’t pretty. I think you have no understanding of basic economics. If the market ‘crashes’, every citizen will be seriously affected by it, not just the investors in the market, please don’t think that you will be OK, because you won’t be.

          • Grandmere

            We were blessed to have parents and grandparents who weathered not only the depression but the privations of WWII. Rationing, (no silk stockings – leg makeup), tires (patch the old ones), sugar ( not as many fatties), gasoline (hitch a ride to town) and so much more. They knew how to work, save, and trust God. All that seems to be out of fashion now.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            It’s as if bad times are good for us – yes – not so many fatties.

          • Grandmere

            Does that mean you mailed that fifty cents to Tom McEwen? You did promise, remember?

          • Julie LaBrecque

            Oh, what a memory!

          • Grandmere

            Ah! I love the “lowering of the boom”!

        • Delta Rain

          Personally? I think they’ll make more pretend money ….again. But.. day by day.. I tend to each day as it comes.

          • Grandmere

            Just watch what all the squirrels are doing. Storing up a little stash for the winter. Everybody can do a little something. We all need to sell some junk and put the money in the ole cookie jar.

        • Marco Vincent

          The problem with false prophets predicting apocalypse using the stock market…THEY ARE NOT ECONOMIST>PERIOD.
          Even economist can sometimes still get wrong on how the stocks behave. Remember the 2008 crash? And the recent yuan devaluation? All of that came out of nowhere, sure economist already anticipated that China would control their economy bubble from crashing, but NOBODY predicted that China devalued the yuan TWICE, causing the recent upheaval.

        • Countryflowers

          The POINT is it’s happening on the Shemita PATTERN.

          • Marco Vincent

            Nope….Its not. Its called Chaos Theory in Economics. Look it up its REAL SCIENCE.

          • Trevor

            Hello, old friend.

          • Marco Vincent

            Hello too, brother.

          • Trevor

            We need you to stick around. And your sense of humor is missed.

          • Grandmere

            God answers prayer, doesn’t he!

          • Marco Vincent

            My sarcastic non PC with a little verbal abuse here and there….kind of humor? Didn’t you guys watch Stephen Colbert?

          • Trevor

            Nah. SNL ain’t my thing.

          • Marco Vincent

            Stephen Colbert was from Comedy Central, not SNL. Now he host his own show on CBS called The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. Oh, and he is a Catholic.

          • Trevor

            Oh. Well, all the same, I don’t usually pay attention to comics.

          • Grandmere

            He has a mind like a mousetrap.

          • Marco Vincent

            Indeed…with all his clever remarks, he really bring Satire and Sarcasm into an artform. Its like swearing and criticizing without the usual venomous words. Oh, and did I mention him being a smart well educated Catholic gentleman? Both Right and Left loves him.

          • Grandmere

            Well, as you know, I am rather partial to mousetraps.

          • Grandmere

            She reads conspiracy nonsense, but when asked to do bonefide research she pleads poor eyesight. We are praying for her sight to be restored physically and spiritually.

          • Marco Vincent

            And yet she still has time to comment and read Shoebat.com.
            It shows how much time peoples like her spends on nitpicking and criticizing stuff just to appease their own need for attention. Taking about Pride and Envy, 2 of the 7 deadly sins.

          • Grandmere

            She really likes to sow discord too. Only four more to go.

    • Trevor

      Unfortunately, from what I have been told Lyn have a track record of making predictions as well, and each time, she has been wrong. My source comes from a friend I have developed through this website and he used to be a huge conspiracy buff. He has since converted to Orthodox Christian, and is now a blogger tracking Middle East news. As most folks who push a conspiracy angle goes, they often don’t repent, and would push along something like, “Well! Our prayers paid off, and God delayed His judgement,” which would fuel further delusion.

      What people need to understand is that Jesus has fulfilled every details in God’s Mosaic Law, including the Day of Atonement, and as this article have stated, the modern Hebrew calendar were based on bitter rabbis in the wake of the 2nd temple destruction, and subsequent rejection of Christ. So, to believe there would be a “secret” rapture of believers around September 23-24 based on the modern Hebrew’s calendar of Day of Atonement, is to completely ignore what Christ did at the cross.

      And as the letter of 2nd Thessalonians made crystal clear, the Day of the Lord will not be revealed until the Antichrist is declaring himself to be a god, which is agreed by Daniel and Ezekiel.

      • Delta Rain

        That’s why I have problems with dated predictions because of your last paragraph and in Mark 13.. Be Ready at Any Hour “But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone

        • Trevor

          Exactly, yet the Lord did not want to leave us in darkness, so He left plenty of clues scattered throughout the Scriptures, and Church Fathers.

          • Delta Rain

            That’s true and as the time nears, we should be vigilant in His Word because there will be many false prophets claiming that He’s here, there and everywhere….

      • Eric Mueller

        What you wrote is well and good but now I would like evidence why you do not believe. Let’s just go with the first event to disprove. Do you know something I do not? What is your evidence? Is it just your opinion that the Palestinian state proposal is false or have you seen articles to disprove this prediction Lyn made? If you choose not to share evidence that is quite alright. Just like cahn on 9-13, Lyn is going to have her day to see if what she said is true or not. : – )

        I started watching some of Lyn’s videos about 3 months ago and do not have the time to watch all of Lyn’s videos so I am completely in the dark with what her track record is. Also since I do not have the time to watch all of her videos I do not know if she has ever made the prediction of when Jesus will return.

        I do believe prayer to God and Jesus could be a good thing and something that more people should be doing. Lyn could have a horrible track record for predictions but is supposedly helping to organize a prayer conference in 5 days which I believe is a very good thing. For everyone who reads this, is your church organizing any sort of prayer event on a weekend? Is everyone for or against this prayer conference if it should happen to take place?

    • You’r WRONG and we DO NOT have to WAIT till October. You are better off finding an old widow and spend your time washing her feet and clipping her toe nails than to waste time on this. At least with the latter you will gain a little treasure in heaven.

      • Delta Rain

        Those nails are part of that 7 year growth thing too.. Sorry, I’m poking fun at the 7 year thing.. again… But, been there, done that too. It’s really rewarding to see the difference made with such a simple task of a pedicure, especially if she’s diabetic.

        • Grandmere

          Oooh, Delta. You Funny!

      • Countryflowers

        well I’m not a widow but my toenails need cut and polished.

      • Eric Mueller

        So the proposal from France to acknowledge a Palestinian state is false and will not happen?

    • Eric Mueller

      So I’ve been giving all this prophecy talk some thought and it reminded me of something. Disaster movies! I mean come on disaster scenarios WILL get people talking and even possibly having people (myself included) hope that they happen for real in this Satanic world. This is probably something that everyone has given a brief thought to at one time or another. Extreme weather, asteroids, comets, floods, fires, complete computer shutdown, mayan prophecy, and earthquake scenarios just to name a few. Does anyone remember this article?

      http://shoebat.com/2015/07/15/jesuss-prophecy-of-massive-earthquakes-is-now-confirmed-as-fox-news-reports-of-a-mega-quake-to-soon-destroy-u-s-pacific-northwest-triggering-christs-soon-coming/

      Now I grant you this is not an article that Walid Shoebat wrote himself but it was by Fox News and was still posted and talked about. Disasters are a major selling topic to discuss and I believe this cahn got suckered in just like other folk. Now on to my person. Lyn has sometimes discussed topics on her videos that I honestly have NO IDEA what in the heck she is talking about. What I do understand is as stated before we have fallen into Satanic clutches and need to repent and be corrected. Like disaster movies Lyn has used topics to catch people’s attention and get them to watch her videos. Yes, I do remember Lyn posted and then I posted a few times about a comet hitting the planet in September. Remind anyone of anything? Perhaps Deep Impact?

      The main point I am trying to make here is disasters WILL come. We have the technology today to predict when some disasters may occur and other disasters will take us by surprise. Some people will try to use disasters to get people’s attention or worse their money. Some people will use disasters to capitalize on an agenda. (Never let a crisis go to waste.) I do believe that how we spend time and what we do is important and will be one of the things God will review at the end of our lives. I am not completely backtracking here. I am still interested to find out if the proposal for a recognized Palestinian state is actually going to happen but maybe, just maybe we should just leave the disasters that happen to God and the big screen. : – )

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPLhYzi7oEM

      P.S. I think a Yellowstone super-eruption would be an awe inspiring event to behold. See! Disaster movie envy got me again! : – D

  • Delta Rain

    The only changes that I know of that occurs every 7 years is your hair and cell growth, taught to me from the scientific studies of the Vidal Sassoon Cosmetology school. That’s all folks. Maybe people get more haircuts then or something and spend more money? LOL! Sorry….I’m in a mood.. Maybe I’m in one of my seventh year phases ?

  • Trevor

    Walid, Cahn’s heresy is also worse when you realize that he also adopts the British-Israelism heresy. http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/2012/harbinger.htm

    • Indeed. He is no different than Mormons who make America the New Israel. In reality the Orthodox do not practice Replacement Theology.

      • Trevor

        If only folks would take the time to read instead of gulping up half-baked truths…

        • Julie LaBrecque

          Inquiring minds want to know – problem is when they read and don’t verify.

          • Trevor

            Perhaps they are afraid to find out what they have been taught are wrong.

      • Jelen

        This article really saddens me. Is sad to see how christians bash one another. I have been fascinated by the ministry of Mr. Shoebat as well as Rabbi Cahn. I think Cahn’s work is intended to merely open our eyes about the possibilities and educate about Jewish traditions, which most pastors fail do to with the congregation.

        • Grandmere

          The Koran was meant to open peoples eyes about the possibilities too.

  • Eric

    Excellent as always, Mr. Shoebat! The Blood Moon thing I always found weird. I always thought, “Using ONE verse to figure all that out?” that never made sense to me. I never bought into that anyway, thank God.

    P.S. I hear you’re accepting articles now. I’ve been thinking of writing in, but haven’t come up with a subject that hasn’t been detailed on this site before. I DID write a fifteen-long page sermon called “On Christ and War” for my upcoming book, but there again, Ted has covered that topic more than once. I’ll let you know when I think of something. 🙂 God bless.

    • I am sure Mr. Superman that when you come up with your Magnum Opus that it will indeed be Epic!

      • Eric

        Thank you, Mr. Shoebat! I will make it worthwhile, I assure you! 🙂

        • Marco Vincent

          Hello, Kid. How are you ? ……If you have doubt , remember that GOD always helps the ones that asks, like me. I’ve been “out cold” for so long for a number of personal reasons, including being sick, but in the end GOD help me getting through my numerous dilemmas.

          • Eric

            Marco! (hug) I’m doing good, all things considered. Things have been a bit rough, but I’m doing good. 🙂

          • Marco Vincent

            Same over here, pal. So hows your superpower? Already back? ( read the recent comics to relate to my comment ). HAHAHA.

          • Eric

            My powers are still drained, Marco. I am currently on a quest to regain them. As you know, I battled Wrath just last wensday. . .boy, I now know what it’s like to be human. And a vilian that gets more powerful through rage? Well, I did what needed to be done.

            (I have red the recent comics)

          • Marco Vincent

            I hope DC will get over their PC minded new 52…soon or loose a significant portion of their sales.

          • DeusLoVult

            I least that haven’t pulled a Marvel….making Thor a woman….

          • Steve Smith

            “У него каша в голове”

          • DeusLoVult

            What’s the quote from?

          • Steve Smith

            commic books really,he has kasha in his head

          • DeusLoVult

            Thor? It ain’t his fault….it’s…..madness….

          • Marco Vincent

            A sexy woman…hmmm..:–) I’m still straight as pole to appriciate that kind of body. F*&^k the PC police and all their social justice warrior.

          • DeusLoVult

            I can’t appreciate it….knowing it’s basically a guy with a s*x change operation. 😉

          • Steve Smith

            if my baba heard you all you would not have an ear, she would twist it off.

          • DeusLoVult

            Why? lol It’s not as though I approve of his s*x change operation…..how was I supposed to know Thor would become Tora? 🙂

          • Marco Vincent

            Nope…its Thor’s girlfriend.Really its true.

          • DeusLoVult

            But he already had a girlfriend, I thought?

          • Marco Vincent

            Yep, its jane..his first girl ( to complicate things…she had cancer when she wield the hammer rendering her looks very worn down when she didnt wield the hammer). Dont ask, its comic logic.

          • DeusLoVult

            lol Oh well…..I don’t read them anyway.

          • Marco Vincent

            Not your kind of bread..got it. Until Star Wars comes out this December….haha.

          • DeusLoVult

            How dare you call Disney’s latest disaster a Star Wars film!!! 🙂 As far as I’m concerned, their movie, branded as “Star Wars”, should be handled with tongs and a pair of Teflon gloves as it is unceremoniously tossed into the garbage.

          • Eric

            Actually, the “New 52” is no longer in effect. Even though the current history is still that of the New 52, it’s now called “DC YOU”, a status-qoe change as a result of the Convergence event.

          • Steve Smith

            “У него каша в голове” topic

          • Eric

            Yes, comics are a mess, steve. lol

          • Marco Vincent

            But still a status quo….fans are still upset over pseudo-death of batman.

          • Eric

            And Bruce is actually still alive, but as Amenisa currently. Within a couple more issues, I assure you that my pal Bats will have his memory back. 🙂

          • Marco Vincent

            Only to fight him in the upcoming movie…hahaha

          • Eric

            Indeed. . .but, we’ll work things out, like we always have. 😉

          • Grandmere

            I thought Bruce was now Cait?

          • Eric

            LOL! Good one, Grandmere!

          • Steve Smith

            “У него каша в голове”

    • Delta Rain

      Yeah, I have problems with ‘Moon Things’ too.. Just sounds too similar to mystical pagan religions that seem to all have the moon in common.. I’ll be looking forward to your article.

      • Eric

        Thanks, Delta. 🙂

    • Kamau41

      I’m glad you didn’t buy into such foolishness. You are very wise Superman Eric.

      • Eric

        Thanks, Kamau! 🙂

  • Linda Murray

    My goodness, Walid. I musta set off yer panic button. 😀 Sounds like yer getting desperate… what with all these recent attack articles yer posting now against people who’ve gone back to learn about the Hebrew roots of Christianity from the OT Torah… & the Messianics.

    I’ve ALWAYS said that rabbinic Judaism & their oral torah is a man-made system created by them & for them, in order to ‘CONTROL’ their people. They’ve lied to their people MANY, MANY times about MANY things down through their history.

    In fact… when you make the statement that the RCC follows the Jewish ways… you hit the nail on the head. The vatican does the EXACT same thing the rabbis do. CONTROL THE PEOPLE with lies. They’re just following rabbinical… ‘TRADITION’.

    That’s why I let God lead me… & not men. I merely follow His Word & listen to Him when he ‘speaks’ to me.

    Sometimes I probably ‘hear’ wrong because we as humans ALL have the tendancy to let our biases get in the way. And that INCLUDES you. NO ONE human has the WHOLE truth of everything yet. And that INCLUDES you. Please remember that.

    One last observation I’d like to make. Out of all the different articles you’ve posted… & the different denominational beliefs I’ve seen you address over the last two years… I’ve never seen you WILLING to discuss with us, CATHOLIC doctrine.You’ll talk about how WRONG everyone ELSE’S doctrine is… but REFUSE to say that the RCC could be wrong about ANY of it’s doctrine.

    All you do is PUT DOWN all doctrine that ISN’T catholic.

    I understand COMPLETELY that you truly LOVE your wife. So when you came out of islam is was NATURAL for you to turn to the religion she was in. And I can tell from all of your arguments about islam v. Christianity that you wanted the truth.

    But I believe that your endearing love for your wife has ALSO blinded you to the truth about the false doctrines of the sun god cult known as the RCC. SOMETHING is supernaturally blocking you from seeing it.

    I hope & pray that at some point you’ll begin to desire that God will UN-blind you to that error… for the sake of your love for truth.

    I won’t be wasting any more time on this subject because I’ve become tired of the uselessness of it. But I love you & I’m praying for you.

    • I wish for once you could refute what is written instead of your sporadic unrelated comments.

      • Owen Schumacher

        Some day the proof will come, Walid. And it’s gonna knock your socks off. 😉 Linda is gonna drop a scholastic bunch of heavily-vetted, historical journals and early church fathers’ writings right on your lap. Everything we’ve held to be true is WRONG. (OK, enough sarcasm for today.)

        • Maria

          Polycarp, protestant? Now I know you were kidding 😉

    • Countryflowers

      1 Corinthians 13:12King James Version (KJV)
      12 For
      now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know
      in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

    • Marco Vincent

      Wait!…What?….sun god cult? Since when did the Roman Catholic Church based their doctrine on the cult of Apollo?

      • Countryflowers

        read your own history. It’s in every library

        • Marco Vincent

          Not my history. I’m in INDONESIA…remember? BTW, the last time I browse the history section, none of your claim surfaces. Except when I browse Conspiracy Theory section.

          • DeusLoVult

            Are you sure it’s not in the “Unfounded and Slanderous Accusations” section of the library, or, is there a separate library for that? 🙂

          • Marco Vincent

            Amen to that, man. Conspiracy theory is also Unfounded, Slanderous and full of false Accusations. Cue the “Fake Moon Landing” theory, which is full of holes.

          • DeusLoVult

            More holes, than the Moon has craters.

          • Delta Rain

            Ok, I’m lost in this argument… Simple Baptist here. I’m still baffled by the twisted illogic of Linda Murray’s comments? Mr. Walid described it perfectly, ‘Sporadic.’

          • DeusLoVult

            It’s simple….Linda says the RCC worships the sun god….all the sane people are calling her out. Is that explanation good enough, my lady?

          • Delta Rain

            What is RCC?

          • Marco Vincent

            Roman Catholic Church.

          • Delta Rain

            Thanks.

          • Marco Vincent

            Or Radio Controlled Car. ::–))

          • Delta Rain

            LOL

          • Delta Rain

            We can attack Easter eggs, Christmas Trees, Sunrise Service….etc.. as pagan, but then you start to sound like a Jehovah’s Witness? Where are you going to stop?

          • It also means that, instead of making the world, God’s beautiful creation, comport to Christ, the idiots want to burn down everything and create things from scratch. A great example of this is in the Pacific Northwest. The Russian Orthodox used the local indigenous culture and Christianized it. They have been faithful Orthodox ever since, despite Protestants coming in there and demanding they end their language, destroy their totems, and essentially live like WASPs. They don’t take kindly to it, and reject it loudly, as they should. Their languages are fine, the Totems have been turned Christian, and they remain faithful penitents to The Lord.

          • Steve Smith

            thank you brother. proddies did every thing to destroy orthodoxy there. but look it is still shining bright.

          • We’ll shine brighter still. Look at what happens in Mother Russia. For all her problems, she is becoming strong in Christ again. It will take time, but she’ll be fine. If we can wake up the sick ones here, maybe this place will have a chance for salvation as well.

          • Steve Smith
          • DeusLoVult

            Well, they’re going to have to do without it, because all H*ll is about to be unleashed upon their doorstep.

          • Grandmere

            Twisted and tortured. They are absolute slaves of Alexander Hislop.

          • Countryflowers

            INDONESIA ?

          • Do you actually think there are no Christians in Indonesia? There have been for centuries, and even the new country of East Timor is, by and large, Roman Catholic. Indonesian Christians, unlike the soft-bellied co-religionists living in the US, with nothing to struggle for, actually praise Jesus in a country where it could mean certain death.

          • DeusLoVult

            It’s a shame, the problems in Indonesia could be so easily solved, I have discovered the source of the conflict….in east Timor, they drive on the right, in west Timor, they drive on the left. 😀 😉

          • Hahahaha

          • Grandmere

            Yes, Indonesia. It is a real place.

          • DeusLoVult

            Perhaps she has a pre 1945 globe, my lady? 🙂

          • Julie LaBrecque

            Doubt she has A globe.

          • Grandmere

            She would consider it satanic as it is “round” and the sun shines on it.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            Double Whammy!

          • DeusLoVult

            Uh-oh….mine has a light on the INSIDE, my lady…..wonder what that makes it….

          • DeusLoVult

            I’d buy her one if I thought it would help, my lady. 🙂

          • Julie LaBrecque

            That’s a noble thought.

          • DeusLoVult

            I’m afraid it won’t ever leave the abstract phase, my lady. 🙂

          • Countryflowers

            You could also check the History Channel Library

          • Marco Vincent

            You mean the same channel that spouts nonsense like “Ancient Aliens”? Please, if your source of knowledge came from cable tv, then you need to be seriously re-educate your self.

          • Countryflowers

            How come in Catholic paintings of Jesus and Mary they have suns around their heads ? What is the history of the sunrise service ? What is the history of putting ashes on your head at lent ? Who was Tammuz ? What is the history of Tammuz ?

          • Marco Vincent

            Its a halo…a sign of holiness in ALL culture around the world nothing special.

          • Countryflowers

            It’s a sun and you know it

          • Marco Vincent

            Nope its a halo…even the depiction of Buddha and numerous Hindu and Chinese gods have it.

          • colin

            Exactly it’s pagan – just like Buddhism, Hinduism and other Chinese pagan deities…

          • Marco Vincent

            Its art. A..R..T. Art.

          • Savages don’t like art, or books (unless their the Chick comic tracts).

          • I posted a refutation for you. Either you deal with it with a serious response or you’r out of here. You want to have a serious discussion over the sun disc issue of just belabor?

          • Steve Smith

            the far east barrowed it from christian mission in the 6th cnt

          • You need to learn about icon painting and the symbolism of that, not the Jack Chick/Alexander Hislop-inspired crap you’ve been reading.

          • Steve Smith

            you are waisting your time she always hijacks threads no mater the topic .pope ,catholic,ect.

          • Grandmere

            She needs intense prayer. This more than a spirit of disagreement. She is in bondage. At least the rage has died down.

          • Steve Smith

            all that are negative i will personally lite a candle to the icon of the bogoroditsa softener of evil hearts, at liturgy this morning.

          • Let them hijack a threat and hang on it, perhaps I can grab the scissors

          • Julie LaBrecque

            Protestants believe that ALL are holy – remember, they have Christ’s righteousness ‘imputed’ to them – they are dunghills covered with Jesus – when God looks at them, He sees Jesus.

          • Marco Vincent

            What? I’m refuting colin’s insistence that the halo is the symbol of the sun. It is not it is sign and a depiction of holiness, which are common depiction in all culture. An artist interpretation of what is holy. How else are the artist going describe if someone is holy? by drawing a square?

          • Julie LaBrecque

            The nutters are loose, they can ‘see’ pagan in everything we do or have or celebrate. In reality, it’s jealousy. Is not a cross a ROMAN EMBLEM – eke!!!! How does that not qualify as a pagan emblem? These nuts have more than a few screws loose.

          • What a disgusting way of thinking.

          • They emphasize on that a lot more than being molded by their maker into holiness.

          • Working out their salvation with fear and trembling didn’t quite catch on here.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            Countryflower -when did the SON rise? What was Mary Magdalene doing at the tomb right before sunrise?

          • Grandmere

            Ever hear of sackcloth and ashes? Tammuz is not relative to anything except Hislopian delusional ravings.

          • Grandmere

            It is my pleasure to give you a big ole SNAP for that.

      • colin

        Sunday – hmmmm

        • Marco Vincent

          So? The days in the calendar are based on the old pagan names, But that didnt change the Catholic dogma..AT ALL.
          Its only for convenience, Ok?

          • colin

            Tell me what is the round thing that looks like a chariots wheel with a obelisk at it’s centre in St Peters square?

          • Marco Vincent

            Its just a decoration..ok!? Dont you have better things to do?

          • colin

            The obelisk which was shipped in from Egypt is a phallic symbol … can u imagine an erect penis as a decoration? (In Egypt it was used in sun worship) While the chariots wheel is from the Sun God’s chariot. Lovely decorations to have in a church.

          • Steve Smith

            you have kasha in the head. fake scolarship listen to tom horn the proddie nutter.

          • Owen Schumacher

            Steve, I read Tom Horn’s “Petrus Romanus” a few years ago. Haha! Amazing IF true. (Read: Definitely NOT true.) However, I don’t know what the Orthodox and Catholics have to say about St. Malachy’s Prophecy of the Popes. Do you?

          • Steve Smith

            none of it is

          • Steve Smith

            well, owen. orthodoxy as far as i know is silent on the matter.

          • AnthonyM

            Tim Staples writes in part: The “prophecy” in question is real in the sense that it exists and is claimed to be written by St. Malachy. But when examined critically, it turns out neither to be true (meaning it contains things that don’t hold up the level of scrutiny required of a true prophecy) nor actually written by St. Malachy. At least, that is what the overwhelming majority of modern scholars believe. The so-called “prophecy of St. Malachy” appears to be a fraud.

            http://www.catholic.com/blog/tim-staples/is-pope-francis-the-final-roman-pontiff

          • Owen Schumacher

            Gotcha, Anthony. Thanks for the analysis.

          • colin

            Who is tom horn..?

          • Steve Smith

            same nutter that said the same as you.he thinks the antichrist is a little green man

          • Grandmere

            The result of a one night stand with David Icke.

          • Steve Smith

            lol 🙂

          • Grandmere

            One of your ilk.

          • someone a little smarter than you

          • Grandmere

            You are killing me right now! This is too good.

          • colin

            Walid –Since you brought up the subject of intelligence, what is
            the greatest commandment – Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

            Now lets contrast that with the official law of the Roman Catholic
            Church states, “A religious respect of intellect and will, even if not the
            assent of faith, is to be paid to the teaching which the Supreme Pontiff or the college of bishops enunciate on faith or morals.

            The Roman Catholic Church speaks of the necessity of submitting
            one’s highest faculties, that of mind and will, not to God the heavenly Father, but to the Supreme Pontiff in Rome.

            The Roman Pope attributes to himself the sovereign rule of the
            entire Church that belongs to the Lord God alone. Let us make no mistake, the Catholic Church throughout its history has persistently and arrogantly assumed and appropriated to itself the offices of the Heavenly Father.

            Pope Boniface VIII in 1302, in the Papal Bull – Quote – “Furthermore we declare, say, define, and proclaim to every human creature that
            they, by necessity for salvation, are entirely subject to the Roman Pontiff.”

            The pope arrogance is blasphemy of the highest order!

            God the Father’s love always achieves its purposes, “In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. Herein is love … that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.” The design and intention of God the Father was that salvation should come to sinful man in and through Christ Jesus. Emphatically, grace in its most proper sense is free as given, a gift from heaven.

            Attempting to imitate this, the Roman Catholic Church claims that its sacraments are necessary for salvation. Its official teaching states the following, “The Church affirms that for believers the sacraments of the New Covenant are necessary for salvation.

            The Catholic Church presents her seven physical sacraments – mediated through her – as the means of obtaining the grace of the Holy Spirit. The Vatican’s pretence is to present her symbolic sacraments as the efficacious cause of salvation. These enticing ways to obtain salvation are but the age-old temptation of looking to physical performances and human works to gain favour with God.

            Such teachings as these come under the eternal curse of perverting the Gospel of Christ. and as such the Catholic Church’s man-made belief system is a catastrophic imposition on the souls of men and women.

            However, the true Gospel lays before each person the solution that is ample to face all evil. The power of it is strong enough to raise people up to life, peace, and heaven itself. The same Gospel causes the Lord’s redeemed people to rejoice in the glorious grace that flows through His own plan of eternal life.

          • Am not gonna play this game. The subject was the WAFFER. Address what I wrote line by line or you’r out. STOP machine gunning all the other issues. ONE BY ONE. Last chance.

          • Marco Vincent

            Obelisk is also common deco and one of the many stones the ancients use to tell the times using the sun ( think of a huge sun dial ).
            Nevertheless….SO WHAT!? Does the RCC scriptures tells you to bow to the sunrise? NO!

          • colin

            Think of a huge sun dial ( phallic – erect penis) in the centre of st peter square. but lets look at the MASS and see if you bow down to the sun..

          • Marco Vincent

            The vessel is called Monstrance , which contain the Eucharist Host…which is very holy, because Catholics believe that the bread is the flesh of Jesus.

            here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monstrance

            Also the sun-like deco is just to show how holy the Eucharist are. Its an artistic interpretation.

          • Steve Smith

            then why are you using orthodox and catholic iconography in your logo?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Andrew%27s_Cross

          • Rapheal Sebastian

            LOL! Caught the hypocrite by the toe!

          • Steve Smith

            as a young man i worked under a iconographer from constantinople.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            We bow to the SON – you don’t.

          • Steve Smith
          • Julie LaBrecque

            Awesome explanation, I saved it for future reference. I also like the first post to the article, about how protestants tend to separate Jesus and God, Jesus meek and mild, the Father wrathful.

          • Steve Smith

            strange is it not

          • This is great. I will use it for another bombshell article and include Islam. This is very interesting because as n x-Muslim it is exactly the issue when we compare it to the iconoclast. Much appreciated.

          • Steve Smith

            i had to search to find something in english. you are welcome just let me know if you need future help.

          • Fake scholarship. You’re really bad at this. Thankfully, we live in an age where the dolts can be paraded in public for the world to see.

          • Steve Smith

            orthodox refrence to the mother of god the unburnt bush icon.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            You are sick man.

          • Grandmere

            Who brought it to Rome? Where was it originally? Research before you answer.

          • Ask him when that was brought to Rome, and why.

          • Grandmere

            Hear, hear! I asked him that too.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            And was the last thing St. Peter saw while dying upside down.

          • This is where the Germanic countries (England included, as well as America), can’t seem to shake off their Gnostic past.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            It made the journey on the Mayflower in tact.

          • Infections like that are tough to get rid of, aren’t they?

        • Steve Smith

          here are the days from a christian land notice they are not pagan as in english

          the Greek name for Sunday, Kyriake, means Lord’s day
          Monday – Deutera – Second
          Tuesday – Trite – Third
          Wednesday- Tetarte – Fourth
          Thursday – Pempte – Fifth
          Friday – Paraskeue – Preparation
          Saturday – Sabbaton – Sabbath

          Sunday = η Κυριακή
          Monday = η Δευτέρα
          Tuesday = η Τρίτη
          Wednesday = η Τετάρτη
          Thursday = η Πέμπτη
          Friday = η Παρασκευή
          Saturday = το Σάββατο

          • Marco Vincent

            Awesome, thanks my knowledge level got a +200 update. But some theory really suggest that the days in english derive from the similar pronunciation of pagan days. But its still A THEORY, which with enough evidence can still be disapproved, right?

          • Steve Smith

            notice that is the lord’s day just as it is in scripture.

          • Marco Vincent

            Unfortunately, these people are to lazy to read the Bible.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            ‘Saxon’ sounds like ‘Isaacs sons’, hence, Saxons are descendants of Isaac, or so the story goes. They can play games on similar sounds all day, does not a proof make, just idle speculation, the devil’s playground.

          • This is why fake etymology pisses me off to no end. There’s no sense in talking to jackasses who can’t read or think.

          • colin

            In English/Latin

            Monday dies Lunae
            Tuesday dies Martis
            Wednesday dies Mercurii
            Thursday dies Iovis
            Friday dies Veneris
            Saturday dies Saturn
            Sunday dies Solis or Day of the Sun

          • Steve Smith

            notice the diffrence from a orthodox land

          • Even in Spanish, Sunday is domingo – day of the Lord. Saturday – sabado (easy enough).

          • Steve Smith

            sure, i can see that but why is it anglo phones are so narrow?

          • That’s giving way too much credit. Some can barely handle English.

          • Marco Vincent

            So WHAT? Its just names….it has NOTHING…..NOTHING to do with the RCC dogma and faith.

          • colin

            I dare you to ask God to show you the truth..

          • Marco Vincent

            Its already there in the word of GOD known as The BIBLE!!! READ IT!

          • Julie LaBrecque

            WAY over his head.

          • Steve Smith

            i had to use my phone for this reply.got greek font on it. see it was a waist round in circles,like a dog tied to a tree.

          • I fully agree.

      • Grandmere

        The termites have been busy while you were away.

        • Marco Vincent

          Then hire a bug zapper or something. Better, yet, Don’t feed the Trolls…or Termites.

    • Steve Smith

      give us a break linda. you come here with your stump preaching and fake hebrew in caps and never listen to one word or even get a rational reply from you, you come across as someone who thinks that they are more “pure” than the rest of us unwashed. russians have a good bit of wisdom for people who;s mind is so full that they can’t hear what the other is saying “У него каша в голове” he has kashsa in his head.

      • I guess its better to be full of kashsa instead of being full of something else

    • Julie LaBrecque

      I am glad that you won’t be wasting your time on ‘this’ subject any more – since in reality it wasted a lot of people’s time and valuable space that could have been filled by something truthful. If you do return to ‘this’ subject, I will remind you of your declaration that says otherwise.

    • Grandmere

      You? Make Walid panic? ROFL

  • DeusLoVult

    Bravo! Bravo Mr. Shoebat! I hope this destroys Cahn….also, about the crane…you may have already known….God certainly has a since of humour, because it was owned by Binladin Group. lol 🙂 http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/bin-laden-crane-collapses-kills-107-on-911-anniversary/

    • Delta Rain

      Yeah, I think God dropped them a message yesterday.

      • DeusLoVult

        Agreed, my lady, one that really made me happy. 🙂

        • Cahn was right about Sep 11th, it was Crane and Brimstone from heaven

          • DeusLoVult

            Indeed it was sir. And the rainbow over the One World Trade Center….I believe God’s confirmation that He will not destroy us, and that we are still under our Father’s protection. :))

          • Eric

            Indeed, desus. Indeed. 🙂

          • Marco Vincent

            A promise that USA will be spared.

          • Kamau41

            God is indeed very much on our side.

          • Marco Vincent

            Christian side…that is. Remember when Abraham pleads Sodom? God’s answer is obvious ..as long as there is righteous persons inside the city, HE will spare that city.
            So lighten up America…start preaching to the unbelievers instead of all this doom and gloom.

            Here :

            Genesis 18:16-33New International Version (NIV)

            Abraham Pleads for Sodom

            16 When the men got up to leave, they looked down toward Sodom, and Abraham walked along with them to see them on their way. 17 Then the Lordsaid, “Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do? 18 Abraham will surely become a great and powerful nation, and all nations on earth will be blessed through him.[a] 19 For I have chosen him, so that he will direct his children and his household after him to keep the way of the Lord by doing what is right and just, so that the Lord will bring about for Abraham what he has promised him.”

            20 Then the Lord said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so greatand their sin so grievous 21 that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.”

            22 The men turned away and went toward Sodom, but Abraham remained standing before the Lord.[b] 23 Then Abraham approached him and said: “Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked? 24 What if there are fifty righteous people in the city? Will you really sweep it away and not spare[c]the place for the sake of the fifty righteous people in it? 25 Far be it from you to do such a thing—to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?”

            26 The Lord said, “If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake.”

            27 Then Abraham spoke up again: “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, though I am nothing but dust and ashes, 28 what if the number of the righteous is five less than fifty? Will you destroy the whole city for lack of five people?”

            “If I find forty-five there,” he said, “I will not destroy it.”

            29 Once again he spoke to him, “What if only forty are found there?”

            He said, “For the sake of forty, I will not do it.”

            30 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak. What if only thirty can be found there?”

            He answered, “I will not do it if I find thirty there.”

            31 Abraham said, “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, what if only twenty can be found there?”

            He said, “For the sake of twenty, I will not destroy it.”

            32 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more.What if only ten can be found there?”

            He answered, “For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it.”

            33 When the Lord had finished speaking with Abraham, he left, and Abraham returned home.

          • WinkyVonTrollStuffer

            Sodom was destroyed wasn’t it?

          • Marco Vincent

            Because there are no righteous people left. The tiny few ( Lot & family ) left the city. Read the entire story. My point above is as long as there are good and righteous people that fight and and pray for the U.S. God will not wipe it out.

          • Indeed 41, so long you keep rowing on this ship 😉

          • Kamau41

            I plan to continue to keep on rowing on this great ship.

          • Trevor

            You won’t be alone rowing the ship. I’m right beside ya, although I might occasionally slip to get a beer or two, and join you again.

          • Kamau41

            That’s right! Having you by my side rowing this ship is a great honor. Make sure you save me a beer too. From time to time I do need one.

          • DeusLoVult

            Amen! Praise the Lord, that it shall be so. America’s restoration is on the horizon!

          • Kamau41

            Amen DLV.

          • Zuzana

            There was a prayer day on 911. The rainbow could have been an answer to all Christians praing and fasting. After all even Nineveh after repenting was saved for an extra generation. This does not mean Cahn was correct or incorrect (I am not taking any sides on this) Does Cahn call himself a prophet? I thought he was mostly pointing on coincidences he perceived and not visions.

          • Owen Schumacher

            Haha! I thought that too, Walid. A rainbow emerges from the Freedom Tower on the eve of 9/11, and a construction crane falls on the Muslim faithful on the very day of. Funny, this seems to be the REVERSE of “America is damned but Saudi Arabia just needs our prayer.” I think I need an Advil.

          • Great point Schumacher. I will probably use it in tomorrow’s article.

    • It won’t destroy Cahn since the fools way outnumber the wise.

      • DeusLoVult

        But truth has a way of making itself known in the end…..and destroying the fools who deny it. Truth is unstoppable, and indefeasible. “The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride, but in the end, there it is.” Winston Churchill.

    • mspip

      yes, God does have a sense of humor!! a creator that has made some funny things. look at monkeys antics in the zoo and duckbill platypus for instance.

  • Countryflowers

    Oh come on !!! David Reagan wants us to go by what HE thinks JUST LISTEN TO WHAT DAVID SAID. He said he “thinks” the shemita should start when the Jews were back in the land totally ignoring history and Joshsephas

    • Yes. They want to make a new calendar. So what do you think CF?

      • Countryflowers

        David ‘s only come back is HE DISAGREES and HE THINKS the shemita “should” be based on when the Jews returned to the land. When IN FACT the shemita was even observed in Jesus time. He has no bases or facts on HIS THOUGHTS. They are just HIS thinking.

  • colin

    The following are list of things that are going to happen before the end of Sept.

    Sept. 15: The 70th session of theU.N. General Assembly begins on this date. It has been widely reported that France plans to introduce a resolution that will give formal U.N. Security Council recognition to a Palestinian state shortly after the new session
    begins. Up until now, the U.S. has always been the one blocking such a resolution, but Barack Obama has already indicated that things may be different this time around. If alarm bells are going off in your head as you read this,then you probably already understand how significant this event could potentially be.

    Sept. 20 to Sept. 26: The “World Week for Peace in Palestine Israel” sponsored by
    the World Council of Churches.

    Sept. 21: The U.N. International Day Of Peace. Could this be the day when the U.N.
    Security Council resolution establishing a Palestinian state is actually adopted?

    Sept. 23: Pope Francis arrives at the White House to meet with Barack Obama. Some have suggested that the timing of this event is highly unusual.

    Sept. 24: The Pope addresses a joint session of the U.S. Congress.

    Sept. 25 to Sept. 27: The United Nations is going to launch a brand-new sustainable
    development agenda called “The 2030 Agenda.” The pope will deliver an address that will kick off this conference.

    “If you didn’t like ‘Agenda 21,’ then you really are not going to like ‘The 2030
    Agenda.’

    “UnlikeAgenda 21, which primarily focused on the environment, the 2030 Agenda is truly a template for governing the entire planet. In addition to addressing climate change, it also sets ambitious goals for areas such as economics, health,
    energy, education, agriculture, gender equality and a whole host of other issues. As you will see below, this global initiative is being billed as a ‘new universal Agenda’ for humanity. If you are anything like me, alarm bells are going off in your head right about now.”

    Sept. 28:. Is the date for the last of the four blood moons that fall on, it will also be
    a “supermoon,” and it will be clearly visible from the city of Jerusalem.

    • Countryflowers

      The Pope is going around doing some bad things in Sept.

      • colin

        Lets see what happens..

    • Delta Rain

      The evil, greedy whakos use these dates of predictions. They’re not stupid, just insane. They have an agenda and they’ve escalated it. We’ll see…. Maybe a crane will drop on them too?

  • this is exactly the historians point.

  • “he ended up calling me a heritic a deceiver”

    He’s confused. You are “infidel” 😉

  • Tom_mcewen

    This leaves me room for me to start my line of Rapture products, first a wrist watch that down counts, a complete line of healthy meals to totally tuned when meeting Jesus in the air, a Walkman to play the rapture tunes available on Google play and a complete line of travel insurance. Time is limited, buy now. Catholics need not apply.

    • DeusLoVult

      If it doesn’t have radium undark on it…..no deal. 🙂

    • Marco Vincent

      Also please check my nuclear Vaults from Vault Tec..I hear its immune to the 2nd coming….for those who want avoid the wrath of GOD.

      • DeusLoVult

        LOL! You know what Fallout is?! LOLOL 🙂

        • Marco Vincent

          Been playing the game since its isometric days. Except fallout 3 ( unfinished) and new vegas (dont have time ), I’ve played it all.

          • DeusLoVult

            Wow! lol I only played 3, and New Vegas….the latter isn’t all that good, so you’re not missing much. I have the GOTY edition of both, and I can say that 3 is far superior. 1 and 2 look pretty cool though.:)

        • Marcos Filipe Guerra

          Love that game…..dat guns!

    • Delta Rain

      Watches won’t work for me… I loose them as fast as time flies. Are the healthy meals low calorie? 😛

    • Julie LaBrecque

      This is freaking hilarious, one of your best!

    • Trevor
      • DeusLoVult

        Nah, don’t need those, just remember the rules….

  • Steve Smith

    oh children, commic books after walid’s hard work.

    • DeusLoVult

      Wouldn’t you like to see Batman vs. Cahn-Artist, the latest evil mastermind? I would buy all the copies in the store. 😉

      • Steve Smith

        my brother would by them, papa burned them in the stove. read russian classics not american trash.

        • DeusLoVult

          Ouch…..that hurts Steve……even though we give you Ruskies a place in our comics as villains? 😉

          • Steve Smith

            this was in the early 60s think of the money ohi!!!!!

    • Marco Vincent

      Oh, c’mon lighten up, its not that I as a comic lover cannot embrace Christ,right? B’sides Christians have always associated Superman with Jesus. Even the first Robocop is an allusion to the story of Jesus Christ. The director Paul Verhoeven openly admit it.

      • Steve Smith

        guess i’m too old school russian. they were not allowed in the world i grew up in. may be that is why i have not fallen for sweet words from sects.

        • Marco Vincent

          Aah, its OK as long we all know the truth in Christ and doesnt deviate from the Word of GOD, right?

      • Steve Smith

        actually i love this multifilm the miraclous voyage s of serafima.. i would enjoy this over the silliness of cahn.

        • Marco Vincent

          Great and beautiful animation, an animated allegory of the rising of the Orthodox in Russia.
          And yet In America, some Churches deem this kind of film as “inappropriate” for too much depiction of “fantasy and magic”.

          • Steve Smith

            this is what the homeland makes it is grounded in our russian churchliness

          • Eric

            Steve, for a while now, I’ve wanted to visit Russia. I studied the language and culture for a while for a novel I was writing a year or so back. And I found myself wanting to visit. When I have enough money, Russia is one of my first abroad destinations. And bravo for Russia returning to orthodoxy. 🙂

          • Owen Schumacher

            St. Petersburg is gorgeous. I’ve always wanted to visit too, Eric.

          • Eric

            Indeed, Owen. My last novel had a Russian immigrant family as key characters in the story. And since I always want to be accurate and as respectful as I can, I did as much research on the language, food, and culture as I could prior to starting the project. Over that period and writing the book itself, I really began to develop a love for Russia and her people.

          • Eric

            Marco, I get what you mean. My writing has gotten attacks from Christians because of the fantasy nature. They’ve called me “Pagan” for my concepts, all of which are ironically Biblically-rooted. My biggest attackers have in fact, as sad as it is, Christians.

          • Steve Smith

            strange tha they reject the above and swallow a kopecks worth of the fake teaching of cahn.

          • Eric

            Indeed Steve. I don’t get it either.

          • Marco Vincent

            They have a “higher than thou” view over others, pride and egoism really blinded them. They tend to forget its the western Christian fault for blaming everything on music, RCC, and others while the Gay Propaganda marches on under their very noses.
            When suddenly there were a huge number of “coming out and be gay”, The same Christians were astounded and start believing in craps like “the end of America”. Suddenly they are all full of doom and gloom.

          • Marco Vincent

            Christians needs to lighten up and swallow the bitter history pill, without great fantasy in art and in science, there will be no modern civilization, period.

          • Eric

            Indeed, Marco. They attack me, yet praise Lewis and Tolkien, who’s work served as the groundwork for my own fantasy world. I used techniques from both Lewis and Tolkien, yet I’m the one called the pagan. I just laugh now.

          • Marco Vincent

            I believe the proverb is like this :
            Those that laugh the last, laugh the loudest.

          • Eric

            Well, I have a pretty loud laugh wether I laugh first or last. lol

        • Wish that you could call it “silliness” its more like star gazing and astrology.

          • Steve Smith

            yes,it;s gnostic

  • RodK1975

    You know, my dad always told me growing up “Son, it’s better to learn from other people’s mistakes than it is to make your own…” You’d think this would be common sense and after decades of date setters being wrong, that people wouldn’t do it. Or maybe none of this date setting makes any sense to me because I was taught to fear the Lord and tend to stay away from things that could get me cast “into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

    • Marco Vincent

      Hello, bub, how are you, Sorry for the absence, I’m having very personal dilemmas.
      Your dad is a very wise man. Really. Parents these days are all to protective and dumb.

      • RodK1975

        Sorry about the personal dilemmas.. I hope you get all that worked out. Good to see you though, dude! I’m so-so, physically, could be better… you know the deal, but I’m never giving up..

        • Marco Vincent

          The Lord guide you man…the Lord guide you.

          • RodK1975

            I need all the help I can get… ;-))

          • Grandmere

            I’m here for you Roddy.

      • Steve Smith

        marko, i will lite a candle for you.

        • Marco Vincent

          Thanks, man…I’m not worthy of that kind of mercy…for my sins are too numerous. I fight the good fight because its the right thing to do, not because I expected some salvation. because salvation is in the hands of the Lord Christ himself.

          • Steve Smith

            that is what christians do.

    • The apple didn’t fall far from the tree Rod. You’r just as wise as your father. Tell him I said that he raised a good son. God Bless.

      • RodK1975

        Thank you for that compliment, Mr. Shoebat… I’ll relay the message.. 😉

  • Owen Schumacher

    Walid, this was a beautiful article. You’re a wise man. After all the hype and hoopla, where in America can we find true religion? I wonder that quite often, as true religion seems so rare and valuable. Thanks again for all you do, and may God bless you for providing such great service to the persecuted Christians of the Middle East.

    • Cahn was right, he did say to look out for Sept 11th and Mecca (not New York) had a Crane and Brimstone fall from the sky 😉

  • Kamau41

    Walid-
    Another Bombshell/Blockbuster piece indeed. You have proven your case, as always, rock solid beyond reasonable doubt. This is total madness and chaos and yet so many people followed these men(Mark Blitz, John Cohn, John Hagee) hook line and sinker. Thank God I never even thought about purchasing any of their books. The reality is Sep 13, 2015 will come and go just like all other failed date setters. It is absolutely tragic that so many follow men rather than God. As always, thank you for accurately setting the record straight Historically/Biblically.

    • Sep 13 is here upon us and the thief said that Elul 29 (Sep 13) that Shemitah lands at the exact hour and minute. No asteroids so far.

      • WinkyVonTrollStuffer

        My hemoroid was flarred up this morning

        • very funny

          • Grandmere

            We do appreciate people who know how to have fun. See Mr. Bill above. Remember when he had to go to court? It was a real case and the Judge had a ball with it. I will try to find some vid.

        • Owen Schumacher

          A personal Apocalypse, Winky. This is no small thing.

        • Grandmere

          As Mr. Bill would say, Oh,NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

      • Kamau41

        Yes indeed. Just as expected we are still right here as another day comes to a close. In fact, my family and I went on a nice walk enjoying the beautiful weather.

  • 1Bobby8

    Thank you Walid Shoebat for this fantastic article and for exposing these frauds for what they really are, frauds. Especially John Hagee for his slanderous lies against Pope PiusXII and Joseph Farah who looks for every opportunity to slander the Catholic Church to cater to his gullible rubes who go to his website.

    • Perhaps I will someday soon have a talk with Joseph.

  • This is why I’ll be happy to go back to a little Island in Eastern Europe, or Ohrid, and live right next to a monastery and eat fish soup. The love of money corrupts. A simple life dedicated to God, and then family, works wonders.

  • They both spring from the defective loins of Arius, mainly.

    • Julie LaBrecque

      The gift that keeps on giving.

  • Smith

    Thank you so much Walid, I honestly thought I was the only one who thought that the modern American Church was losing its mind with all these stupid Blood Moons and Date setters.

    It says in scripture that not even the angels know the times God has set aside for judgement. If the Angels do not know, then how could we possibly know?

    I think it is a strategy of the devil in this way; People who might otherwise be spending time winning souls to Christ (or helping you rescue Christians in the Middle East) are wasting their time and money on useless garbage now, and they will feel betrayed and we will have a falling away because of it, further weakening an already sick church.

    I even argued with my own mother about this. She was dead set on believing this Shmeetah crap. I said “No one knows but the Lord. And even if someone does know by magic, what does it matter? You could not do anything about it, and we need to focus on winning souls for Christ anyway! It’s a dangerous distraction!”

    Well, maybe she will listen now, I hope.

    • Tell your mother that I said “She has a very good son”

      • Smith

        I did, and thank you 🙂
        Side note, I bought a copy of your book God’s War on Terror for my Dad, now he’s convinced you are right.

        • Grandmere

          Instead of mass hysteria, we are winning them over one at a time

          • Trevor

            One dog-ear page at a time. 🙂

  • Saxon Warrior

    It’s obvious that Jesus is the Messiah without all this calendar stuff.
    Too many people are telling lies about him. Muslims change who he was and claim that he didn’t die on the cross, Atheists claim that he never existed or that if he did, he was just an ordinary man …. and so on.
    You never hear about anybody disputing Buddha’s divinity or claiming that Hindus have got it all wrong about Krishna. That’s because they are false gods and Satan doesn’t waste time trying to disprove them.
    If Jesus was a false Messiah, homosexuals wouldn’t be so harsh on Christians. They don’t bother criticizing Islam even though Islam is far more dangerous to them and their lifestyles.
    I know that Christianity is the truth because it keeps getting attacked by Godless reprobates.

  • Walid, the fallout from these false prophecies could potentially contribute to a full-scale abandonment of Christianity (or one’s perception of it) The western Church already appears in a state of aimless confusion. I remember reading something you mentioned previously, about realizing that the scriptures are centered on the Middle East. If the western Church would simply STOP reading America, Canada, Bermuda or any other western or European location into Prophetic scripture, a huge problem could potentially be resolved quite quickly. Chan’s Shemita prophecy, Hagee and Biltz’s blood moons, Rene Moses false rapture date-setting (23/09/15), a Roman Antichrist, it would all fall apart if western Christians simply changed their prophetic direction toward the Middle East, and study the prophetic scriptures, which CLEARLY correspond to REAL prophecy occurring in the Middle East.

    • Vernon,

      Folks who follow Financial Astrology perhaps think they are Christians.

    • Trevor

      Hear, hear!

    • Grandmere

      Thanks, son. Keep going. Keep digging. Remember that mom loves you. Let me know when you need some more coffee.

      • Blessings to u mom. Thank you for encouraging me. I really do appreciate you!

        • Grandmere

          I’m blowing you a kiss right now.

  • ” he is NOT saying”

    He is. He said that the revelations started coming in bundles. See the previous article.

  • You’r welcome Eric.

  • You’r welcome Rev.

  • I did. Very similar.

  • WelderChick

    Wow. What a mess! Why, oh why, do these people follow this crap rather than the Apostolic Church? What is it about truth that they would rather believe in tales? I just don’t get it.

    I spent years going from 1 religion after another searching sometimes in tears cuz I just wasn’t finding that True one. Then came the Church. I can’t put into words, adequately, the joy, peace, relief I felt when I finally found the true Faith, the true Church.

    So I can’t understand people staying in these falsehoods after they’ve been exposed. It was a living hell for me for which I am forever grateful to God that He led me out.

    • Julie LaBrecque

      Glad you peeked in here, good to hear from you.

      • WelderChick

        Hi Julie! I’m trying to redirect myself to better exchanges 🙂 I’ve been knee-deep with race realists, fundamentalists, and fundamentalist race realists who also believe in the demon seed theory. Too much crazy is not good for the soul!

        • Grandmere

          That makes this asylum look like Disneyland.

    • Grandmere

      Hi, Chick. I sure wish you would stop by more often. Julie and I could use an extra hand sometimes and You know how to get ‘er done.

  • “You want to protect the Apostate Pope and the Roman Catholic Church”

    Shshshshs its a secret.

    “accepting only comments of those who will believe the nonsense”

    Indeed. This is why I accepted yours.

    • Grandmere

      SNAP !!!

  • We write a lot about Pope Francis. Why didn’t you research what we say instead of accusing?

    The next heretic I should by writing about is you.

  • “The False Prophet of Revelation”

    Never heard that before. Chapter and verse please?

  • Trevor

    I’m glad to help a bit. I’m just as much a student as you are.

  • boy your a nutter. Your link uses Freedom Foundation founder and president Mikey Weinstein as a witness who called the “Mossad” about me? You think the Mossad talks to this nut-case? Secondly, this man is so evil and hates Christians and you use him as a witness?

    Okay, lets make this easy:

    1–What’s 1 + 1 ?
    2–What would you explain to a child why 1 + 1 is not equal 3?

    I’ll go simple on you since obviously your mentally ill. But you did the right thing by coming into my clinic.

    • Grandmere

      We, the humble orderlies, are standing by with mops and buckets. Trevor and Julie have a couple of straight jackets if needed.

      • You’r always so funny Grandmere.

        • Grandmere

          You ain’t too shabby yourself.

      • Kamau41

        I’m telling you Grandmere, you and Julie L. are too much. You guys always have me rolling. I love it.

        • Grandmere

          Well, We be Sisters! ROFL

    • Angelene

      I don’t know any True Man of God to make these kind of remarks. I know for a fact Jesus wouldn’t have made this statement.

  • Julie LaBrecque

    Christian beliefs are those that existed in the early Church, not those of man-made churches that sprang up 500 years ago.

    • AnthonyM

      The site opens with ‘Radical Muslims are an enemy to be sure, but they are ultimately controlled by the Jesuits of Rome through the CIA. Of course, Walid isn’t telling you any of that.’
      It would be laughable if some did not believe it.

      • Julie LaBrecque

        Can it get any nuttier?

        • AnthonyM

          It is just sooo crazy!

        • They can dig another rock layer. Just watch.

          • Grandmere

            They never heard “When you are in a hole, stop digging”.

          • Indeed, not, Grandmere!

          • Julie LaBrecque

            Hope I see it when they get to the granite.

      • Grandmere

        I was gonna say “you can’t make this stuff up” and then I realized , oh yes. They can and they do.

        • AnthonyM

          Really bizarre thinking going on.

          • Can someone lead me how I can become a Jesuit?

          • Grandmere

            First you have to get your hands on a secret decoder ring.

          • AnthonyM

            LOL, I did not see your reply until I posted mine !! True!
            OK, together now, on 3…MIND MELD!!

          • Grandmere

            You got it, Anthony! KABOOM!!

          • Julie LaBrecque

            Wife-thing probably an issue too.

          • RodK1975

            Only the Batman decoders work… Oh and the Little Orphan Annie ones too..

          • Grandmere

            It’s a good thing you included Annie. You don’t want Ralphie going commando on your butt.

          • RodK1975

            OVALTINE….. A crumby commerical…

          • Grandmere

            Boo! Love ya.

          • Marcos Filipe Guerra

            That’s so true.

          • AnthonyM

            You have to have a secret decoder ring that comes in a box of Cracker Jacks.

          • RodK1975

            Well… I heard you can become a Jesuit by sacrificing a black goat to Beelzebub and his cohort Adramelech (the peacock demon.. hmm… where have I heard that before?) but I don’t know if that’s true or not but I’m not going to look it up and check first I’m just going to post it here… lol

          • Grandmere

            Why not? Lots of other people do the SAME DANGED THING.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            You’re not one?

          • Grandmere

            Oh, rats!

          • rats and a crackerjack box and some secret combination?

          • Grandmere

            Uh oh! You are onto my rat, uh, mousetrap. Now I’m totally screwed.

          • Not yet, but I love the Shroud of Turin, Guadalupe, and Russia’s redemption story via Fatima. I spent 2 decades examining people spinning words and spinning tongues and found nothing but empty walls and empty minds and empty hearts. I guess I have to work my way up and find the key and box you guys are talking about. Some code and some combination. Still confused. You guys are keeping secrets from me about some cracker jack box. I will continue searching.

            Speaking of the Shroud, were you doing an article on that for Shoebat.com?

          • Julie LaBrecque

            I am a poor writer, this has been a struggle for me. Have my ‘theme’ and supporting evidence, need to get it in a format that makes sense and isn’t rambling. I did find out that Fr. Christopher Kelley was a member of the Second Scientific Congress
            in Turin, in 1978 – he promised to review my article before I submit it to you. I would be awesome for Fr. Kelley to write an article on the Shroud as well as the Veil of Manopello, which was recently on display in Los Angeles.

          • Marcos Filipe Guerra

            There’s a Cultural Center that hosts the jesuits massa here in Brasília/DF – Brasil. Here’s the link on google map

            https://www.google.com.br/maps/@-15.7863666,-47.8735363,3a,25.5y,21.06h,84.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sywqSgezPGuul25PmpmuhFw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

            Here’s the jesuit’s internet site of Brazil.

            http://www.jesuitasbrasil.com/jst/principal/lo12.php?pag=;portaljesuitas;paginas;index

            Here’s the map of the institutions so you can find the closest one to you:

            http://interativo.jesuitasbrasil.org/mapa/#/

            For a secret organization they are very open to vocational and willing people, mind you I found a place in their website that needs a login and a password. That must be something secret….The jesuits are at it again. >.<

            Now, here's what they did to Brazil:

            First massa by Meirelles on the land first called "Vera Cruz" meaning "The True Cross". I'm sorry….I'm not sorry am I?….I will never persecute the forefathers of this christian nation. Here's the Cathedral in Brasília, inside and outside:

            http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/12/06/1509078241-c1186e35a8ede7c7d9332d25c4cf556a975fba1c.jpg

            https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Catedral_metropol.jpg

            There are 4 bells that ring at 8:00 AM, just when I pass by it EVERY day as I go to work. There's also a military chapel on the way….oh, I could go on all day long about Brazilian's Catholic christian heritage. I love the bells, I love the artwork, I love the liturgical himns. Few things I disagree, because I was raised as a baptist, but that's minor and irrelevant.

          • And now there telling me to travel to Brazil to find a Jesuit?

          • Marcos Filipe Guerra

            🙂 Hehehe, well, not really, you can find a jesuit center in the US very easily from that map. I’d be happy to show you the religious tourist attractions in the capital of Brazil, though. If you come to my neck of the woods, that is. I used to pass by that Cultural Center when I went to college at night, and the Cathedral and the military chapel. Did you know there’s a catholic chapel on the side of the brazilian president official residence? Don’t talk about it loudly, or people will get offended…..oh who cares if they do. I’ve seen jesuit monks, very young, in the traffic lights collecting donations. You know, sometimes I feel proud of my country.

          • Grandmere

            You have so many Christians. I remember World Youth Day.

          • Marcos Filipe Guerra

            Charismatic catholics, pentecostals, baptists, seventh day adventists, presbiterians, roman catholics and there’s even a greek community of orthodox christians where they sing the liturgical himns and speak greek! My modern greek teacher taught them worship and he was an atheist! I was marveled that he loved his orthodox culture but was an atheist. God I regret because I didn’t go there to see them worship Jesus. My teacher went back to Greece, you know, financial crisis and all that. One day I’ll go to this greek orthodox community.

    • Kamau41

      Amen, Amen, Amen….

  • “I have read your entire articles including clicking and reading all sited materials. Unfortunately all of it is a distraction.”

    Prove it. You have not quoted one “distraction”.

    “Properly dividing the word and searching out facts is what is commanded of us.”

    And what “facts” have you “searched”? I don’t see one here.

    “Even David Reagan, had the decency to refute Cahn”

    Strange. It was Reagan that insisted on the date-setting issue and if it does not come to pass than the man needs to be pointed as “false prophet”. This is what Reagan wrote.

    I followed Reagan’s instruction to the T.

    “without resorting to degrogatory, defaming insults such as your ” Cahn artist” name calling.”

    What would you like me to call a con-artist? An “artist”?

    “No where does Cahn refute Jesus as Messiah”

    Never said that. Quote please?

    “You are stumbliing over a knat as you swollow a camel”

    I did not swallow the camel. Its Sep 13th, no catastrophe. Remember, Cahn said that Elul 29th, last time the disaster hit, it was to the hour and the minute. Here we are. Where is the disaster?

    I did not swallow Harbinger or the Shemitah.

    You did. Are you always in the habit of swallowing camels? Or do you simply just hate what I write?

    “God hates those that sow discord.”

    Does He also hate Rebuke?

    “Jonathan’s message is one of repentance and following Jesus.”

    Is that the only message he sends?

    “I assume and hope yours is to.”

    We all are in need to repent. You are here rebuking me asking me to repent. And since you “rebuke” can I also rebuke you?

    “We all need to be alert,”

    Glad that you are “alert”

    “yes you uncover some needed information”

    What is the “need information” that I uncovered?

    “but to you Walid, your distasteful attack may prove you to be as false as the one you attack.”

    And now you accuse that I am “false”?

    “I thank you for your work in helping rescue our brethren. I am not a person of means but have sent what I could to support your valiant efforts, however will choose to send my next available offering to servants who do not sow such discord and stretch the issue to mean more than it does. The men you attack do not refute Jesus as Messiah.”

    Strange how your type always uses “money” to apply pressure. I matters little to me what you do. I simply take the money from A and give it to the victims B. You can find victims directly yourself. All power to you.

    Roger and out.

  • Joanne K Kropf

    Psalms 105:15
    Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

    1 Chron 16:20-23
    20 And when they went from nation to nation, and from one kingdom to another people;
    21 He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes,
    22 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.
    23 Sing unto the Lord, all the earth; shew forth from day to day his salvation.

    Jonathan Cahn is a God Fearing, God Loving man. How do “I” know that?……that’s the unbelievable GIFT from God Almighty of the DISCERNMENT of the Holy Spirit! Anyone anointed by the Spirit of God, has in them the discernment to sift through the believers vs. non-believers (simply put). I personally have watched many of Jonathan Cahn’s video teachings and have been blessed by them….I also do not recall him ever stating that any one thing in particular WILL happen, beyond a shadow of a doubt, on a certain day. He always makes it a point to say that “this CAN happen”….but God is not in a box. That aside, I think it very dangerous, for any of us to DARE “touch HIS anointed”…..those aren’t MY words….they are from God Almighty Himself. I’m sorry to see that Jonathan Cahn even had to respond to all these “critics” but here is his response to the naysayers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGfQn-jcmC8 always remember, let NO MAN deceive you!!!!

    • Oh my, never knew you were the one to decide who is and who is not “the anointed” Its Sep 13, Elul 29, no asteroids, only hemorrhoids: you.

      • Steve Smith

        ha! love that one.

      • Grandmere

        That “touch not the anointed” verse is a FAVORITE of guess who? Televangelists.

        • They take the “anointed” to be anyone who says “Jesus”. If they only think who are these “anointed” or who is the “Holy Spirit” is they would not blaspheme so easily the Holy Spirit.

          • Grandmere

            Amen. They try to use that as a shield when anyone criticizes them.

  • As usual, they plug a word or two, but never answer a single question.

  • Shirley Braggs

    If you are going to call him false, at least, get your Hebrew understanding of the days correct. Sept 13, 2015 is a Sunday on the Gregorian calendar , but Hebrew days begin at sundown. Sundown Sept 13 through Sundown Sept 14 is Tishrei 1 on the Hebrew calendar and will include Monday, Sept 14, 2015 ,;and the stock market will open.

    • Julie LaBrecque

      Both dates are history and nothing happened.

  • Christer Sundqvist

    Walid! Does Jonathan say that he is a prohet? The confession at capitol hill, that Yeshua is The Messiah and that the people of USA need to repent is true. David wilkerson, dimitri duduman have predikade USA:s fall.

    • Can you give us the biblical definition of True Prophet and False prophet?

      And since you believe that Wilkerson is prophet, go ahead follow whom you like. If Wilkerson is “false prophet” than the Scriptures will fit, that you sir, “went after false prophets”.

      Choose, but choose wisely.

  • jim gazay

    Again Walid, excellent article, these people anger me with a righteous anger , this dishonors our King and our God, our Lord Jesus Christ , lion of the tribe of Judah, (rev 5:5) do we not understand that our God is holy and absolutely pure, I tremble at the thought of what these false teachers bring forth , they cause scandal “For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.” (Rom 2:24). Leviticus 23:2
    “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘These are my appointed festivals, the appointed festivals of the LORD, which you are to proclaim as sacred assemblies.

    1 Chronicles 23:31
    “and whenever burnt offerings were presented to the LORD on the Sabbaths, at the New Moon feasts and at the appointed festivals. They were to serve before the LORD regularly in the proper number and in the way prescribed for them.” These so called “prophets” do not seem to take note that God spoke to Moses. Mose was no “joe smo ” but was a holy man enlightened by God and witnessed strange mysteries, seeing the backn arts of God receiveing the tablets of the 10 commandments and leading a stiff necked and stubborn people. How does Jonathan Cahn compare to Moses? Where is cloud by day and fire by night, confirming He is a prophet of God? Am I missing something why does he speak with a “forked tongue”? All this tongue and cheek sensational nonsense and garbage needs to stop. Having read the Harbinger last year, being compelled by a friend( I didn’t want to) all I could see was a man full of religious fantasy (prelest). These people like the “dugger” family circus are scandalizeing people from taking Christians seriously. I pray that Cahn find repentence, you may fool people but you cannot fool God!

  • Good. Then stick your old nose in minding your own business. I wasn’t talking to you.

    • Julie LaBrecque

      I gave her a dose of her own medicine, see above.

  • Julie LaBrecque

    Hint – quotation marks.

  • Julie LaBrecque

    Caustic Remark? “Debbie, I’m sure the DNC pays you well enough for you to spend some money at a hair salon. Please go to a hairstylist and get a new hairdo. If your hair is that curly naturally, it would look cute short. If you perm it to get it that curly, stop. Your hair is a terrible distraction to viewers and it is something you can do something about. For your sake and the way the public perceives you, reinvent your hair do into something that looks professional.” Your words – still want to stand by your accusation of making caustic remarks? Look in the mirror.

    • great, I guess I gave her a taste of her “old” medicine.

  • mspip

    years ago i also read a book by mr cahn , he made sort of a convincing scenario. tis not going to happen like cahn says.

  • Grandmere

    Keep Calm and Carry On.

  • Grandmere

    Thank you for being so understanding. It is not easy dodging rocks from nut jobs.

  • Grandmere

    No! No! I’ve been here longer and I vote we talk about Nibiru! We have not done that one yet. We’ve done the pope one at least five hundred times.

  • Grandmere

    Who gave you a mikifenn? They should be horsewhipped. Walid had the antidote but you must be willing to take it.

  • Grandmere

    You are not an old lady. You are an old fuddy duddy who doesn’t know how to have any fun. That is so boring.

  • Thank you Eric. One is to NEVER stop learning since we are destroyed for the lack of knowledge. So according to Jesus knowledge is a factor. Secondly, sure one gets “saved” as you say, but we also must continue in becoming in the likeness of Christ. This is a lifetime process.

    • Grandmere

      Why don’t they like “being conformed”? I love it!

  • Look carefully. He said that the false prophet was the “Pope” so I wanted that nutcase to show the verses in order to see if a “pope” was in them. First think, then say “good grief”.

  • AnthonyM

    LOL, Shoebatium…

  • It’s my second home, though I spend most of my time in Skopje. My plan is, in twenty years, to retire in Ohrid, bring my family to have a good, healthy old age and we can all relax, enjoy fish soup and be near the monasteries and the Albanian highlands, which have their own rough beauty.

  • DeusLoVult

    I’ve played III, IV, and V…..III was the best, I think. Yes, dos…..my dad loves dos. lol 🙂

    • Marco Vincent

      Those that loves dos usually can adapt better to Linux. It’s a fact. Which means your dad would also find Linux amazing.

      • DeusLoVult

        He may have used it before….I don’t know. He’s computer savvy, having used them for years.

        • Marco Vincent

          An IT savvy granpa, thats something that I rarely heard. Cool.

          • DeusLoVult

            He’s very up to date. lol He’s a gastroenterologist.

  • DeusLoVult

    I spent nothing, but a lot of my time on researching the EU…..I didn’t need to buy it, it’s all online. Of course, I feel betrayed…..my entire understanding of the Star Wars universe, I am now told, is wrong. I’m not going to watch Star Wars Episode VII: Mickey’s Monetary Scheme, but if I hear Jar Jar Binks is going to be a character….

  • Trevor

    BAH HA HA HA HA!

    Priceless…

    “Wikipedia, the Jerusalem Post, CNN, the Military Religious Freedom
    Foundation, Reporter Eileen Fleming of WeAreWideAwake.org, and many
    others, all proclaim that Walid Shoebat is a fraud, who is making lots
    of money by promoting hate towards Muslims.”

    Instantly discredited by citing Wikipedia. In any college English composition class, that article would have automatically gotten a big fat zero on a research paper, and a toss out of the class.

    Thank you for the laugh. I needed it.

    • Marcos Filipe Guerra

      Heavens above, it’s funny how they condemn catholics and Walid for “making lots of money”, but make these books and videos to sell this propaganda against their own brothers to raise funds! Lord have mercy….Incredible. Nothing more the devil wants than to turn the church against itself. Ultimately, I think this will be the filter between the faithful sheep and the faithless goats. Jesus will probably return when these people awaits for islam to be taken out of the way so the jesuits (oh, God) can invade Jerusalem with the european union. Guess what, it’s donkey vs horse all over again.

      • Trevor

        Donkey vs horse? Maybe a donnybrook, then.

        • Grandmere

          Oh my goodness. That right there was the BEST!!!!!

      • slander is a way to tell wheat from tare.

        • Marcos Filipe Guerra

          True. A friend of mine at work, evangelical, also thought that the catholic church was the harlot, I talked to him and he turned away from that, a few small issues remained, but that can’t be helped. Anyway, he had a discussion with a “fellow” christian and came to tell me. I asked what happened and he said: “He called me an extremist!” I asked why and he said: “Because I said that islam is not a religion of peace!” WOOOOOOOOW. I told him that it will happen a few times….happened to me inside my own family. My brother and my mother. Both are set with computer chips and the vatican. Now I even share with the pentecostals and they receive it better than the ones I thought should.

    • I love it. The slander. The hate. All of it. Had it not been for all these blessings how would I have found YOU? Grandmere? Marcos, the two Julies (jewels) Rodk, Kamau 41 … now I have someone to die for. At times I even urge the slanderer to write, it brings so many blessings.

      • Trevor

        Likewise, how else would I have remembered YOU if I had not been shaken to the core last summer when reports of Christians being beheaded circulated on my Twitter feed?

      • Grandmere

        Cookin’ with gas on the front burner! Ooh, the sweat and the hot sauce fill our nostrils and we turn into a pack of hounds. The thought of a falafel fills our rabid minds and works us up into a frenzy. It’s – how can I say it – almost like a Benny Hinn experience, without the toupee.

  • Trevor

    “why do Americans think that the world revolves around the USA,is the blood moon thing bull?”

    Don’t look now, but asking question like this mean you are starting to wake up.

  • Trevor

    It is simple. Are you ready?

    Jesus fulfilled all the requirement of the laws, so the Mosaic Law, that is the Law that God gave to Moses, have been satisfied and closed.

    In legal term, it mean the law of God have been canceled. How does that happen? In the legal system, to cancel out something mean to physically strike a line through the law, and that is exactly what God did through Christ, struck Christ with stripes, and at the same time, nailed the handwritten requirements of the law to the cross.

    From Colossians 2:14-17:

    “having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him. Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day— things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.”

    This is something that Cahn, a self-declared rabbi, failed to mention. So, he is committing a blatant heresy which is called Judiazing and that have been condemned by the Jerusalem Council of Acts and by subsequent church council throughout the age.

    • Grandmere

      Amen, Trevor.

  • edwitness

    Walid,
    Jonathon Cahn has never claimed to be a prophet and you know it. So you make your case by referencing someone else saying he is. That is a straw man. You have said in another post that Cahn said “might” concerning the possibility of a collapse in connection with his interpretation of shemita. This indicates positively that he is not saying “thus saith the Lord” as would a prophet.
    Your “666” is wrong. Your crusade to make Saudi Arabia and not the Roman religion the harlot is wrong. I would not say you are a false prophet because you have interpreted something incorrectly. And these that you cite here saw the problems in your interpretation and did not accept it. Now because your message was ultimately not well received by them, you are striking out at them by building straw men and knocking them down. Rejection is difficult for some. Sadly I believe this admonition fits in your situation.
    “…Lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled”.
    I pray that you will receive God’s healing power to overcome in this.
    Blessings:-]

    • DeusLoVult

      “Your “666” is wrong. Your crusade to make Saudi Arabia and not the Roman religion the harlot is wrong.” Let’s see…..obviously and laughably false statement…..cites no evidence to support his claim…….you should consider a political career, you’d be a really crappy politician, just like the rest of them.

      I see you’ve updated your “Blessings :-}.” I’ve got news for you, using :-] makes you appear neither more intelligent, nor more amicable in appearance, and I still feel the urge to retch all the week’s meals at the sight of you.

      • edwitness

        The Blessings:-} were given for Walid and are not offered to you or anyone else on this site. You are the epitome of Rom.1 and are therefore given over to satan for the destruction of the flesh that your soul might be saved. You are not nor ever will be a god as the RC catechism teaches. It is a lie of satan.

        • DeusLoVult

          Okay, listen up you dolt, I have said this before, this’ll be the last time to you. I am not a Catholic. Now, read that several times until you’ve memorized it, and don’t forget. I may one day be a Catholic, but I am not now. I am now of Heylel?….Wisdom has failed you, Intelligence has taken leave of you, and Common Sense had enough of it never to bother with you. Go back to marketing your Edwitness Bible, and then depart from this world with all haste that you can manage, and spare it the suffering of your intolerable presence here.

          • Grandmere

            He is a liar. He speaks against God’s people and ends with his “Blessings”. This was never said ONLY to Walid.

          • DeusLoVult

            Of course not, my lady. The rest of his statement (along with all the others) contradicts that claim. He claims we are possessed by Heylel…..he is a rabid dog with a special and nonsensical hatred of Catholics.

          • Grandmere

            Thanks, D. Time to get onto school work now. Algebra II. Hated it. Geometry and Physics fit my brain so much easier. Everything else should be a walk in the park for you.

          • DeusLoVult

            I’m also good with Geometry, my lady. 🙂 Have a wonderful day.

    • Saying that Elul 29 end of Shemitah will be a disaster for America is “setting dates”. Live with it. The man made false predictions. Its the 14th NOTHING HAPPENED except you here posting nonsense.

  • DeusLoVult

    Mesa don’t give a d*mn if Jar Jar feels bad. 🙂

    • Marco Vincent

      Mesa force choke self hearin that. So sad. Oohauughakh✖ ]

      • DeusLoVult

        Sad? I’d roast his corpse on a spit and mop my floors with his blood if I could. 🙂

  • edwitness

    Walid,
    You also did not prove your premise that Jonathon Cahn is “forcing” messianic believers to rejet Jesus as Messiah. In the clip you showed he and David both proclaim Jesus is messiah. He always preaches absolutely that Jesus is the messiah. Period. Shame on you.

    • DeusLoVult

      Idiot. Either, you didn’t read the article, or your last few remaining brain cells have perished from lack of use. My bet is on the latter.

  • Kamau41

    Stay on board of this ship, you will learn much.

  • disqusted1

    September 13, 2015. Please pray for the multitudes affected by this.
    http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/fires/article35123121.html

    • Grandmere

      Many people wanted to move but couldn’t sell their homes. Maybe now they can get out of California. I don’t hate California but there are just too many negatives to living there now.

  • “I have heard Rabbi Cahn in person ”

    So what?

    “the bible says that we cannot cursed a Jew or speak against him remember Who ever curses a Jewish man or woman shall be cursed we need to be careful.”

    Lenin was a Jew and I curse him all the time. Who taught you this nonsense that a Jew is better than a Gentile? What utter nonsense racist idea.

  • Trevor

    LOL.

    I like clean comedians like Taylor Mason.

  • Grandmere

    He will find a way. In this atmosphere they always do. There are millions of people to market their books to.

  • Grandmere

    Return to the Torah?

  • Grandmere

    Typical. You cannot answer so you say “venom”.

  • Grandmere

    The rapture. Good luck with that. I hate to have to tell you, but that is a very novel idea. The Church never taught it.

  • Grandmere

    People are being led like sheep to the slaughter. “Just lie back and wait for the rapture”.

  • kensme

    Walid,
    Another great piece of leadership to help save some souls in this age. Cahn and Biltz works take God’s words given to Daniel and the Words of Jesus given to John and the apostles, and falsely apply them to current economic, social and astrological conditions and arrogantly tag the name of Jesus Christ to the lies. Selling their souls for fame, fortune and stardom just as Christ said they would. And so many people don’t see it. The falling away has to come first. This is the beginning of the flood, I think. As you said, those that support them are doing so to get a chunk of change for themselves.God has called you to call them out for blasphemy. Fight the good fight.

  • FALSE. Saturday evening into Sunday evening. Its the 14th. Nothing happened. He lied.

    • Grandmere

      They keep getting that one wrong.

  • But I am NOT wrong. Elul 29th (Sep 13) came and gone. Nothing happened. Also, one does not need to wait when one finds past discrepancies. So here we are on the 14th of September. You set the parameter above in your comment. Are you know willing to admit the man is false? Of course not. You won’t because the issue with you is not truth. Its blindness. Few seek the truth.

  • Because I am watching too much of Donald Trump and because I find too many who are still in 4th grade.

    So you’r upset that I called that guy above a nutcase? Well, he is.

    • Julie LaBrecque

      You are Jerome’s spiritual child, see post above to Sam.

  • Watching lots of Donald Trump lately. That, plus there was nothing rude about finding a widow (read my comment above) but this lady wanted to find “rude” under every rock, just as you are doing now.

  • Grandmere

    Thanks, Sandra. Best coffee table book ever.

  • Grandmere

    If you stay here you are in for a rocky ride. BUT, it will challenge you on many past assumptions. Be prepared to do a lot of listening and thinking. If you are willing, God will show you the way.

  • Grandmere

    You Tube feeds the book sales.

  • Trevor

    Jesus gave us two commandments to follow. 1) Love the Lord God with all of your heart, mind, and soul. Serve him. 2) Love your neighbors as yourself. That was the summary of the Law and Prophet.

    And here is a thorough explanation from an Orthodox Christian view. http://orthodoxwayoflife.blogspot.com/2012/04/do-christians-still-honor-sabbath.html?m=1

  • Oh, it was in the East as far as China, Mongolia and Korea, but because it was Nestorian Christianity, people forgot about it (except when mentioning the legend of Prester John). It’s sheer ignorance. Most of the fundamentalists who haunt this site are more than happy to either play ignorant or destroy evidence that Christianity existed and still exists in the East.

  • Grandmere

    Only 66?

    • Trevor

      *smacks forehead* If they only knew the first Bible in canon had 81 books.

  • “Was this really necessary?”

    This was rather light. The Hebrew Roots Movement denies the Trinity and undermine Paul (here I was not addressing all Messianic many of which are good) . What I said above is way too light. Would you like me to make it harsher? It needs to be.

  • “The entire concept of the book is that the tetrads when observed through history always had to do with Israel and the Jewish people”

    The Jewish people never observed Tetrads to signal prophetic events. Never. So what you said here is totally false.

    “…not America or the west. Israel. Specifically, EVERY time a tetrad occurred, a major event happened to either Jews or Israel.”

    This is also FALSE:

    “So I believe you are confusing that with the “Harbingers” affecting America. (please post this. I am not seeing any of my comments being posted here)”

    At times when one thinks the other is “confused” is because they themselves are “confused”.

  • All this charting and calculating is beetle food.

  • Grandmere

    That’s the wrong analogy, Sam. Walid is the shaggy old sheep dog who goes after the wolves. His bark is so bad ,they don’t want to risk the bite. And he has the bite. It’s the truth. Ouch!

  • throw up on isle 4

    • Grandmere

      I’m coming, Chef! I knew that mop and bucket would come in handy. Little did she know that we chew up and spit out such as her. We Be Monsters!

      • Trevor

        You are cracking me up. Jeez, while folks are flailing about with the failed prophecy to come about, we are having a good laugh.

        • Grandmere

          Life is short and full of trouble. We need to laugh in it’s teeth because Christ has given us the victory!

      • Julie LaBrecque

        Sorry I am late to the disaster.

  • Mary Ann Wynkoop

    You are one of those false teachers placed on earth to twist the truth. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/17/995542/-Walid-Shoebat-Fake-Terrorist-Busted#

  • Mary Ann Wynkoop
  • Grandmere

    The Church possesses the truth. Begin with early church history and then the early church fathers. Thanks for the clue about the Indian man.

  • What is this? Alien invasion?

  • Grandmere

    Jazzy, this is a harsh and dangerous world. You got to toughen up, man.

  • “I hate false prophets. The Hebrew Roots Movement who worry about September 13th will die someday with no one but their fleas to morn them.”

    Hebrew Roots Deny the Trinity. Do you deny the Trinity?

    That plus Nice is Not Love.

    Now that I told you these two truths, you’r upset?

  • Grandmere

    We see all your posts. You have falsely accused Walid. That makes it “open season” on you! We await more pearls of wisdom from the herb smoker.

  • Dang there are lots of new patients today. Grandmere, Julie, hey somebody, straightjacket on isle 4.

  • “I’m not a educated person” whenever I read this I see the wise. Thank you for this. You taught us.

  • What can I say, you caught me. Now go and join the rest of the patients. There is some cookies and milk for you. No worries the cookies are soft unless you prefer the pudding.

  • And you must be the Almighty?

  • Julie LaBrecque

    Jerome was much like Walid, see how he dealt with the heretic Helvidius: 1. I was requested by certain of the brethren not long ago to reply to a pamphlet written by one Helvidius. I have deferred doing so, not because it is a difficult matter to maintain the truth and refute an ignorant boor who has scarce known the first glimmer of learning, but because I was afraid my reply might make him appear worth defeating. There was the further consideration that a turbulent fellow, the only individual in the world who thinks himself both priest and layman, one who, as has been said, thinks that eloquence consists in loquacity and considers speaking ill of anyone to be the witness of a good conscience, would begin to blaspheme worse than ever if opportunity of discussion were afforded him. He would stand as it were on a pedestal, and would publish his views far and wide. There was reason also to fear that when truth failed him he would assail his opponents with the weapon of abuse. But all these motives for silence, though just, have more justly ceased to influence me, because of the scandal caused to the brethren who were disgusted at his ravings. The axe of the Gospel must therefore be now laid to the root of the barren tree, and both it and its fruitless foliage cast into the fire, so that Helvidius who has never learned to speak, may at length learn to hold his tongue.

    • Grandmere

      Thank you, Julie!

  • Julie LaBrecque

    How is it not caustic to tell somebody that their hairdo is a ‘terrible distraction’ and advise them to change it?

    • mikifenn

      It is often helpful to tell someone that there is something they can change that would improve how they look that would bring improvement to his/her life. I don’t believe anyone should criticize someone about a physical characteristic that they were born with and cannot change. People criticized Hillary’s long hair and apparently she listened. She re-styled her hair and now it looks great. I’ve had family and friends tell me things about my appearance or clothing that needed changing and I listened, thought about it and decided if I wanted to change or not. People who are hyper sensitive to criticism usually have a difficult life. One purpose of friends, relatives, viewers, etc., is that we build each other up as well as acting as sand paper rubbing off each other’s rough spots.

  • Julie LaBrecque

    They weren’t? That is a statement borne of complete ignorance. Those ‘historical’ books were in the Canon of Scripture which was Canonized by the Catholic Church, protestants REMOVED THEM.

  • Julie LaBrecque

    Something wrong with being a Roman Catholic?

  • And you think when you go around deciding who is “bearing fruit” and who “is not” that you ignore the fact that you are playing God? “You shall know them by their fruits” means “you shall know them by their deeds”.

    Someone was slandering me and you want me to be “nice”?

    So when people attack we’re not allowed to defend ourselves? And when we do, you say “O, you’r not nice”.

    There are so many who try to find anything on someone trying to paint them as “O you’r not nice”. Here, I will give you homework, show me where in the Bible Jesus “smiled” or “was nice”? All His expressions were “Jesus wept” and “Jesus rebuked” and “Jesus was angry”.

    Also, which is worse, playing God or being nice?

    When you go around deciding who is and who is not saved, or judging by words a person’s fruit without examining a persons life, it makes you a heretic trying to play God. Do you always go around playing God? Or do you think jerks like you can just throw up their breakfast and expect me to clean it up.

  • He didn’t predict dates? He didn’t predict that disasters happen at the end of seven year Shemitahs? Are you kidding me?

    You think moon-gazing and stock market astrology and predicting doom and gloom on the U.S. is funny?

    “I do not appreciate your use of words, it is not Christ like.”

    You think I care one iota what you “appreciate” or “do not appreciate”?

    You want Christ-like, you white-wash tombs and empty dead sepulchers filled with dead bones?

  • “First of all thank you for your article and you made some very valid point.”

    When someone puts the word “First of all …” it the usual hypocrisy since there is always a “second of all

    “However”

    Then one usually finds the “however”. It is like the “but” which means “forget what was said before”.

    So lets see:

    “your comment “The real “fools” are everyone who purchased these books and put their money in Conn-men’s pockets.”

    Indeed.

    “is harsh”

    Of course it is HARSH. You expect me to be “kind” to someone who gazes at the moon and does stock-market astrology calling it theology?

    “and condescending.”

    There is the popular word one finds in the modern world. Try finding that in the Bible. You think Elijah and Jesus were “soft” on this type of junk?

    “Many who have purchased the books were not mature Christians and were searching for answers.”

    You must be speaking of yourself. What you write is very immature.

    “This doesn’t make them “fools” but instead it makes them Christians who have yet to grow into a solid Biblical theology.”

    And you “grew into solid Biblical theology”, writing this crappy comment? Have you analyzed the full research? Of course not. You simply came in here to bitch by using a forked tongue where you start off with hypocrisy and you end up with stupidity.

    ” Instead of a judgmental scolding they need loving guidance.”

    There is a judgment then there is a scolding. Would you prefer that over someone who is telling you the truth and prevent you from the pit? You don’t even know the basics on what is “loving guidance”.

    “I have no problem with you …”

    You think I give a hoot what you have a problem with and what you don’t have a problem with?

    “challenging those who are in leadership …”

    What leadership you fool? You think you have leadership in these white-washed churches and synagogues of satan?

    “However, I would ask that in the future that you consider, the young in faith …”

    Do you take me for your immature youth pastor out and about goofing off shacking and jumping-up-and-down at some stupid church with disco-tech lights?

    “and use a more Christlike approach …”

    You wanna see a Christlike approach? Go to Russia and tell them that you ought to love the homosexuals and see what they do to you. They will throw your sorry carcass out so fast you would not even know what hit you.

    And get that stupid Humperdick Limperdick stupid looking hippy hairstyle and get a real hair-cut.

  • Glad to see someone else who hates the Longshanks. I guess the Almighty sent me to look after ya, but as far as these other guys …

  • Another loon who missed his Haldol shot. Are you too stupid not to know that when it comes to God’s timetable that no man can predict jack crap? You think that moon-watching idiots like you and stock-market astrology is a Bible study? Try refuting line by line instead of coming in here drooling your saliva because you can’t hold your jaws shut. Get out of here before one of these nurses wrap you with a straight-jacket.

    P.S whats with that stupid picture. You always walk around with your hands up like some muzzy who worships at the Ka’aba?

    http://media.worldbulletin.net/250×190/2012/08/05/kabe-dua.jpg

  • Ob1

    Hey Walid, you make some good points and I have had many of the same questions myself but I question some of your theories too. For example your mark of the beast theory. I think this video raises a lot of good questions and I’d like to hear your response. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1H7w8ob6jo

  • Haven’t watched this video fully. My 666 theory is my attempt to find a meaning of a verse. It wasn’t the hallmark of my research and I never meant it to be. I am more concerned in interpreting “the name of the beast” which is “a name of blasphemy”. Now let me ask: does the greek letters look or not look like the Arabic Bismillah? Yes/No? Please answer that first before we get into digging into the text. Also, have you had a chance to give us your interpretation of the verse? I could be wrong, but is that a crime? Its one verse. Also, do you have another verse you would like to pick on that you think I mis-interpreted? Yet all that is much different than spewing a ton of schemes and date-settings and using the moon for financial astrology. Have you tried to refute what was written here? There is also another problem. So many come in here acting as if they want to have a dialogue, 99% just come in to slander and pick. Which are you?

  • ” i do not see the spirit of Christ here any more.”

    Didn’t know that you have the keen ability to detect Christ’s Spirit. Is this some charismatic talk that I am supposed to believe everything you say? And what is with this “religious spirit”? Or am I just not up there to “discern the spirit” and you’r way up there in the realm of the heavenly?

  • My tone? Look. This guy is selling stock market astrology and moon gazing as if it was Bible. All is done for money. Jesus, one of His rare occasions carried a whip over using God’s House for money. And you’r telling me that I need to be sweet with people who sit here and defend this lunacy just so some think “I am nice”?

    As far as reviewing the video, its a waste of time. Anyone can pick on a verse till kingdom come. What you got to think about is what is the intent of these people for doing this? It is simple. Try to destroy one issue and hope people throw the baby with the bath water. The sad thing is that most are no discerning. Remember, we are not in the same shoes.

    At any rate, God bless

  • Young man,

    You need to learn some real history. Try to find a historian who will approve that Samiramis and Nimrod were in the same time historically. This is false. Look up:

    http://shoebat.com/2014/03/12/drinking-blood-saints/

  • O stop your cry baby talk acting as if you have been attacked. You want trial attacks come and see. You don’t even know what real attacks are. You came in here with the typical garbage. Not once you mentioned what is wrong with these movements that sell addicts some demonic paraphernalia of moon-gazing and stock market astrology as if it was Bible when fact is it was bile.

    Now you come in here with the typical idea that “nice” is the signature of all the “saved”.

    Folks like you come in, take a crap and leave. You neither eat or feed. Useless.

    Give me one nugget you shared since you came in here?

  • Another long essay lecture on “be nice”. Can I use the word “the fool” from Solomon’s wisdom in Proverbs? Yes or No? Is that also “prohibited”?

    “Walid are you so intimidated by fellow brothers and sisters concerns??”

    What? What “concerns”? Tell me?

    Concerns that my “tone is too harsh”? Is that the only “concern” you have for me? Any other more serious concerns?

    “I suggest instead of immediately calling someone stupid or idiots or whatever.. it would have been better to just giving your honest opinion,”

    Is this the only advice you have? Anything else? Perhaps you might want to give us a nugget or two? Perhaps you want to express what you enjoyed eating off our table, or perhaps you want to replenish our table with some of the choicest wines?

    Besides this lecture, what are you offering Laura?

  • Maria

    “Nice” isn’t my signature and if you care more for “nice” go to Cahn and stop listening to me. It is only when this happens and the years come by, you will know who was leading you to light. Until then, spend your time preaching the Gospel of Nice since as you already know that I never seek the approval of people. In other words, say to me “be nice” and I will bite. In time, you will know that when Christ bites and cracks the whip, that it is a necessary ministry. And if the Lord did it, who are these who preach to me about the Gospel of Nice? They are but a dust in centuries of history.

    To me, this IS the definition of LOVE.

    Love ya. Send my best regards to thy beloved husband.

  • Maria

    Really? Check Shoebat.com rating on Alexa, then get back in the mad comic book, where you belong.

  • Angelene

    And this proves exactly why I don’t listen or read your blog anymore either……..Your a hypocrite and pointing out all their flaws, but what about yours? Have you taken the plank out of your own eye? Criticize, criticize, criticize. I sure don’t see you standing in a pulpit preaching the Word of God, instead your just trying to persuade people to believe your own theology. What a shame!

  • Angelene

    Well said.

  • You drink from Cahn’s spring. Don’t drink off of mine. And then we will see in the end who gets rebuked.

  • Julie LaBrecque

    No it doesn’t. God would NOT have His book be of Satan’s number. The Bible has 73 Books.

  • Julie LaBrecque

    The Bible has always had 73 books – the reformers discarded 7 and were left with a pseudo-Bible of 66 books. Everybody should indeed pray, but where is it prohibited from exposing a false prophet?

  • Julie LaBrecque

    Pseudo-Bibles consist of 66 books.

  • Kevin Kelley

    You said the real fools are those who buy their books…….but you mentioned a pile of books you “thrashed”. Did you buy them?

    Hearing someone out and agreeing with them are not the same thung.

    • Not one. Never paid a cent for these books. I did nearly 3000 flights and every speaking tour I got at least two books from folks who sold their agenda and give out free books to speakers and authors. Even the Harbinger I got, one can tell garbage books in few minutes. Few I kept because they were good, most were not worth the paper, to be honest.

  • Herty Nava

    I agree, “mind your own business, I wasn’t talking to you”, “you are a nutcase”, “you are mentally ill”….hmm, does not sound like responses from somone who knows what is respect and love for the brethren mean but from a 14-year old inmature teenager. I’m sorry Mr. Shoebat, I dont know you, just being sincere here. I’m wondering if it is the same person who I see in the videos…

    • Are you saying that the world is void of nut cases? Apparently the number of crazies are increasing as we reach the end.

  • To show what is “speculative” and “not fair” you need to prove it with data which of course, you failed to do. While everyone is entitled to an opinion, opinions mean nothing if they are not backed up with evidence.

  • “people who judge other christians in this way makea red light turn on for me.”

    Your first statement makes no sense since everyone “judges other Christians” especially that you just now made a judgment regarding me.

    Again, to make a judgment based on the Gospel of Nice without explaining the evidence is usually the response of someone who does not have or lost an argument. Sept 13 came and gone and Sep 27 will come and go with no fruit of destruction. Good day.

  • “Proverbs 6:16-19 I hate to hear discord spread among brethren.”

    You assume these are brethren. As fas as the “name-calling” as it appears you never read the article where you will find “stupid Galatians”.

    With your motto, even God is “guilty”.

  • Eric Mueller

    Thank you for your reply. I have not watched all of your videos, so I cannot make any definite declaration on if you have predicted anything or not and what sort of record you have. (Example, Videos and statements made 6 months ago.) The few videos I have watched I do vaguely recall that for the most part you were quoting a friend or a website.

    This somewhat misunderstanding Trevor and I had went back to this article which I will include in case you are curious:

    *Note-you may have to scroll down a bit before you see the conversation.

    http://shoebat.com/2015/08/20/video-shows-muslims-tie-christian-child-to-a-poll-and-beat-him-to-death-and-laugh-about-it/

    Before I go, a quick question. I haven’t had the opportunity to watch any of your recent videos, did you briefly speak about how your friend was wrong about the comet striking the Earth in September?

  • While its impossible for any man genius or superbly advanced to refute your fantastic arguments here. I am just curious on one thing:

    “That is why I don’t fear the future, whatever it holds, whether it be rapture or martyrdom.”

    What sort of courageous endeavor are you seeking or doing that would cause such an honor as “martyrdom”?

    I am very confident that a man with your superior intellect and courage is definitely walking the path of Via Delorosa.

    I am all ears, eager and ready to hear your exciting courage in running the marathon, thus I am ready to learn, your highness.

  • One more thing: “judgement is coming on America for its abandonment of God. Not many preachers are bold enough to state that these days.”

    So what you are saying here is that if anyone pronounces prophecies that the U.S. will be judged takes bold courage?

    Wow. Never knew that.

    And tell me lest I slumber, why is such proclamations courageous? Does the CIA or the FBI or some secret society persecute you for such proclamations?

  • You are welcome SoundMind. Never pay attention to when an industry hypes up a book for sale. Bestsellers does not mean best books but best marketing.

  • Maria

    You sent an array of the same message spamming my comment section. What do you want? If you have an objection, please quote from the article exact statements you feel are in error, correct and proceed and stop spamming.

    P.S.: we are not interested on views regarding our “tone” or how feel that we are not filled with the Holy Spirit.

  • When you rebuke, please provide specifics, quotes, etc …

    Also, what term would you like me to use when I address what the Bible calls “fool”? Should I use “wise” instead? “borderline fool” perhaps? How should I address the millions of fools who buy into money making schemes?

    You know who is the biggest fool? The biggest fool is the one who reads what I wrote and does not recognize all the fools.

  • I see, I guess I need to put up with everyone who wants to load a bucket of crap on me and I am supposed to ‘suck it up’ to ‘set an example’.

    Not interested.

  • Excuse me. Why didn’t you “respond to his comment with a reasonable response”?

    Hmmm? Why?

  • “Remember, emulate Christ – He did not behave this way. ”

    So you are “emulating Christ” by hounding me or are you using this “emulate Christ” just to annoy?

  • What is this. Someone hounding me over a joke and reading all the comments from over a year ago?

    Why aren’t you hounding them? Ha? Why?

  • Try next time to show the quotes you are objecting to and then refute.

    Instead you gave me a sermon.

    Cain’s theory was proven false, not just by me, the time is passed and no blood moons Armageddon. Just false prophets with a nice retirement plan.

    I guess according to you I should be silent for being right.

    As far as the HRM, look up Hebrew Roots and Shoebat. 80% of the Messianics now deny the Trinity and you want me to be “silent”?

    Are you sent by Christ or someone else?

  • I’d like you to debunk what I wrote line by line instead of sending me a Cahn worship letter.

  • The calculations simply do not work. I exposed them. Yet when I did I was attacked by even World Net Daily with awful smear. It proves a point, tommy, the ones who tell the truth are only recognized in the end.

  • Kat Ballard

    If a calendar made a believer deny Jesus, he or she could not have possibly really known the Lord. When you become born again , and Spirit filled, there is such a radical change!!! You know that you KNOW Jesus is Lord. Period

  • Kat Ballard

    So never once can you say, “God” told me???? His sheep know his voice??? I know I have, at times. I have donated to your ministry, and his, I just really hope your work is completely legit. God forbid you should ever make a mistake,but I pray you get more mercy than your giving up you do

    • If someone told you “God told me you should elect Hillary” would you follow them?

  • Kat Ballard

    All the good that Jonathan does, and you want to pick on his calender????? Seriously???? I get soooo much from his teachings they are incredible, and not all are based on his calendar. I recently started donating to you too, but the seemingly hate you have, is making me want to check you out a little more

    • So using a calendar that positions the birth of Christ on a different date to prove He is not Messiah is okay with you to use? We are not speaking of his private calendar, but the faulty Jewish calendar which was created after Jesus throwing the date of His birth to a different time. No one is discussing the “good” Jonathan did, we are discussing the error. Should we not point error? The Bible says we should.

      Why not try to refute the article, line by line with valid arguments. The Blood Moons have come and gone. Nothing happened on these dates. As far as Rescue Christians go, its is valid as you can hear testimonies from victims, hundreds of them at Rescuechristians.org.

  • Kat Ballard

    Cahn himself says we can’t put God in a box by giving dates, so how can you call him a false prophet??

    ??

    • Well, if you examine the article he did some date setting. Are you into date setting by using a calendar that denies Jesus?

  • No one is speaking here about believing in Jesus by faith. We are discussing using a calendar that denies Jesus to sell a book about blood moons with date settings that came and gone with nothing happening.

    • racarrera

      A sad deflection. The non-Chalcedonian faction looks weaker and weaker, chef.

  • “The Hebrew Roots movement is taking place for a reason”

    80% of the Hebrew Roots deny the Trinity.

  • The key is trust in no man. But always be careful that at times people do get slandered. My problem with Cahn is his claims of the Shemitah where he used the stock market to gage the end times. This is absurd. And besides that he used a calendar designed to deny Jesus as Messiah. It seems that the stock market is up with Trump and the blood moons long past and gone and nothing happened. This makes his teaching false.

  • I agree violet. The problem with most people when you reveal these issues is that they will reject it and only years later do they see the facts. I have no question that the man is a cult. I have spoken at his Messianic synagogue when he was a no body and I can say that the man is a thief, but I will not get into that. I do not think of him as intelligent, a debate with him will put him to shreds. He appeals to the simple minded who do not examine, sift and check sources.

    No problem with the double postings violet and glad to have had this discussion with you.

  • Thats what we have been saying. Have you read the article?