Coptic Pope Goes To Australia And Tells Christians ‘Fight For What Is Right- A Family Is A Mother And A Father And “Gay Marriage” Does Not Exist’

Coptic Pope Tawadros II in his recent visit to Australia urged Christians to ‘fight for what is right,’ stating that a family is a mother and a father and ‘gay marriage’ does not exist. Additionally, he excoriated Muslims for refusing to back his statements against homosexuality, saying they would rather stay silent in the face of evil than oppose it:

Coptic Pope Tawadros II is urging young Copts to ‘fight for what is right’ and vote against same-sex marriage in Australia’s forthcoming plebiscite.

Addressing around 1,000 young people on Friday evening, the head of the Coptic Orthodox Church in Egypt told them that ‘family equals “father and mother”‘ in a rally at the International Convention Centre in Sydney Harbour.

Many Copts have fled oppression in Egypt during the last few decades to make their homes in Australia and Tawadros’s visit is aimed at supporting their religious identity.

He said when he touched down in Australia: ‘According to the Holy Bible, when you read either in the Old Testament or the New Testament, there is no – at all – same-sex marriage.

‘Therefore, this marriage is completely refused from the Christian faith.

Tawadros’s comments comes as conservative Muslim leaders say they are afraid to join the debate on gay marriage for fear of being labelled extremists, including by Christians who share their opposition to the move.

Ali Kadri, from the Islamic Council of Queensland, warned many imams and community leaders, who he said represent ‘the vast majority of the Muslim community’, were refusing to speak out.

Kadri told the Guardian there was a mixture of views among Muslims, conservatives ‘are afraid to express their concerns because they’re worried they’ll be labelled as extremists or terrorists’.

He said: ‘It’s not those that support the “yes” side that conservative Muslims are afraid of – ironically they are afraid of Christian conservatives who themselves support the “no” side.’

He added: ‘Muslims have been flavour of the day for a long time and will come back on to the hit list [if same-sex marriage is legalised]. Although they agree on marriage, there is no sympathy or favours for Muslims [among the Christian right].’ (source)

It is no surprise that Muslims would not oppose the LGBT and instead choose to be silence in the face of evil. This is not just because Islam is itself an evil religion, but because as we have consistently pointed out, Islam permits the LGBT so long as it is done in accordance with the provisions of Sharia law. This is also not something new, but is a well-established fact of Islamic law going back to the time of Mohammed. As Walid wrote,

In other words, the bottom line is that Islam prohibits and permits homosexuality. Islam’s author of confusion is notorious for using play on words. In Islam a homosexual (Liwati) is banned but if he is effeminate (Mukhannath) he is not. Adultery is forbidden in Islam, of course, but not with concubines, alcohol is forbidden, but not in heaven, prostitution Bagha’ is forbidden but not when its Misyar (marriages where one can contract with a rental overnight wife). Patricide and matricide are forbidden until the parents oppose the son to go on Jihad … you name the sin and Islam becomes the religion of loopholes.

So Islam prohibits masculine gender cross-dressers unless they are effeminate. The rally in Istanbul had both homosexual dominant and submissive. In Islam it is prohibited for masculine men to cross-dress:

the curse is specifically directed only at “males” and “women,” and does not cover non-males who might be female-impersonators (or non-women who might be male-impersonators, if indeed there was a recognition of “non-women”). It’s okay to be a drag queen as long as you are not a straight man posing to gain access to unsuspecting women, or to the wives of unsuspecting husbands.

Islam is a confusing religion. Many are even duped to believe that Islam respects the Virgin Mary while they ignore weird Muslim beliefs. The Ahmadiyyah, the most peaceful sect of Islam, for example believes that Virgin Mary, the Mother of Christ was a hermaphrodite while the other sunni violent sects disagree with them.

But again, we are dealing with a religion where even the word ‘peace’ is also confused to mean “Muslim justice”. (source)

The LGBT and Islam, while both evil in the ways in which they manifest and with the particular emphases the promote are both still evil, and therefore the come from the same source and if followed, will lead back to the same destination. As we have constantly stated, given a choice between two evils there is no choice other than to reject both and choose what is right because evil cannot substitute for evil.

That kind of thinking is like switching Coke for Pepsi thinking that if one drinks the latter instead of the former he will stop gaining weight. It is laughable because the only difference between Coke and Pepsi is the manufacturer and the flavoring used. The basic mixture of water and liquid corn sugar is exactly the same for both sodas, and so it does not matter which soda a man drinks because each one will produce the same physical effects on the body as the other. The only difference is in the taste sensation to the person drinking it.

Forget all of the nonsense about how ISLAM HATES GAYS, because nothing could be further from the truth. Islam and homosexuality are from the same evil source, and while they will sometimes be in opposition to each other they ultimately hate Christians and Christian truth more than each other because of their evil nature.

When Mohammed went to sexually assault Aisha, a 6-year-old girl, he said that her refusal to say anything again his actions was her acceptance of them. In the words of Islamic Sacred Tradition in the Hadith, “Her silence is her consent.” What the Coptic Pope did, whether intending to or not, was to call out Muslims for their support of the LGBT, for just as it was for Mohammed molesting Aisha, the silence of the Muslim community in the fact of the evil of the LGBT is their acceptance of homosexuality.

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  • The Roman Pope is already hated. Now the Coptic Pope just painted a bigger bulls’ eye on his back.

    May the glory of the Lord be their rear guard.

    • Julie LaBrecque

      Did you get the book ‘Making Gay Okay’ yet?

      • No.

        • Julie LaBrecque

          I have an extra copy – I’ll gladly mail it to you – just need your mailing address -. Text it to 918-671-2556

          • Grandmere

            You can mail it to me. You have my address and I have his.

          • Don’t worry about it. I have been given some books to read and I haven’t finished those due to doing homework for my electronics engineering courses and having a full time job. Give it someone else who may greatly benefit from it.

            Thanks for thinking of me, though.

    • Anthony Palo

      It’s a pity they’re just doing what is right and good. and they’re being hated for it, just shows how much evil the world is now.

      • Just as the scriptures foretold.

        • Anthony Palo

          yep, and also shows that we’re on the right side.

          • Absolutely.

          • Kamau41

            Indeed we are. As we can clearly see these days, the path is definitely getting so much narrower.

  • Julie

    Heard the background for all of this on my Catholic radio the other day….

    Harvey Milk of San Francisco himself thought marriage was between a man and a woman and it should not involve gay relationships but they seek to find their own to define theirs.

    Ironically, it is the feminists who really brought the idea of gay marriage into the scene, and it is amazing just how much bad the feminists have done to our culture….

  • OrthodoxChristianAmerican

    One of my best friends was a Coptic Christian. Oh how I wish that they would accept the Council of Chalcedon! They reject Eutyches and even anathemize him in their canons, but hold up Dioscoros and Severus, claiming to reject Monophysitism but as I said, reject Chalcedon, so not really rejecting Monophysitism in practical theology. All heresies, lo they last over a thousand years, wither from being cut off from the Living Vine of Christ, and so it is with the Coptics, slowly being blotted out by Islam over a period of about 1500 years.

    • Anthony Palo

      interesting stuff

    • Grandmere

      Thanks, once again, for your scholarship, OCA.

      • OrthodoxChristianAmerican

        I wanted to understand why they have suffered so. The answer is that they would rather have had rule under the Sassanid Persians or the Muslim Arabs, than the Orthodox East Roman Empire. But it wasn’t a story we are told much in the West, and it wasn’t a cakewalk for the Muslims in Egypt either; the Roman fortress of Babylon near what is now Cairo, held out for about 3 years, for example. The Emperor Heraclius fought a world war with the Persians for 25 years, and fought the Arabs for several years more. It was an epic and exhausting time for Christians, and often they blamed the sins of their leaders for the victories of the Muslims… Heraclius himself tarnished his glory of earlier years when he created a heresy of Monthelitism to try to repair the breach between the Monophysites and the Orthodox, and also received a dubious dispensation to marry his niece.

  • Michelle Therese

    Wow… loop holes galore!