What Every Christian Needs to Know About the Mark of the Beast and the Mark of God

By Walid Shoebat (Shoebat Exclusive)

Today we see that donning marks written on badges already placed on the foreheads by the most anti-Christ religion on earth; Islam. And this phenomenon is becoming a growing trend and has become a reality; the Muslim is literally posting a blasphemous badge on his forehead.

Scripture talks about two marks, one good “the seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God” (Revelation 7:3) and the other evil “the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.” (Revelation 13:17)

But are such marks spiritual marks or are they intended to be literal as a physical mark that is visible by the naked eye? Is only the Christian marked with a spiritual mark, or is he also required to have a physical mark, or even both? Or is it possible that this whole issue be simpler than we all think; is it unusual after all for two opposite sides, the followers of Christ on the one side and the followers of Antichrist on the other, to express their allegiance to their god by displaying physical marks that are visible to everyone; either for Christ or for Antichrist to show the world which side they are on?

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It sounds like these are simple questions that require simple answers and it’s a simple decision to make. While the decision is simple on what to do, how we get to that conclusion is not.

The typical person who is reading so far would probably spark a short-spanned quick thought and a quick conclusion, “I won’t take the chip, the barcode of whatever and I will get beheaded and I will be just fine”.

So by now its time to click out of this page and find a more pleasant subject to read about. You perhaps already think that you know all the verses from whatever was etched in your psyche during Bible studies and since “I’m saved” its time to move on.

If it’s that easy, why is there such a serious biblical warning to heed regarding a mark on the forehead? Reading this long article to examine historical and biblical accounts is asking too much from a culture where people would rather be dozing off while they watch several 4 minute snippets of news on the TV,  or by perusing the type of short, less then a thousand words articles that provide just enough information to make us all make dangerous conclusions.

Indeed, the lack of patience and the hatred of knowledge is one of the signs of the times, which plagues the church.

But before we even begin to answer this simple question it is necessary to clear the runway with a hundred words or so since at times quoting a verse or two in order to reach a conclusion is a style used on the comment section on blogs, which too could get us in serious trouble if we make theological errors. Isolating verses is the best method used to get yourself involved in a schismatic cult.

I once asked, “who” or “what” exactly killed Goliath: a) the smooth stone, b) David, c) God, or d) all of the above?

“What a silly question” you might ask. Any of these four choices is correct. But a schismatic individual will always use a verse or two and isolate them or add extra words that are not in the text to pull a fast one on you.

Did “God alone kill Goliath?” or “Did David alone kill Goliath?” or “Did the stone alone kill Goliath?” Say “yes” and you just got yourself in some serious theological trouble. One cannot eliminate the hand of God that led David to kill Goliath.

The devil, just as he too isolates sheep and he also plants wolves to kill, he also isolates words and adds additional words in order to kill. And while this is a simple example, serious cults started by meddling with the nature of Christ; was Jesus “God and not man?” or was He “man and not God?” Cults can find verses to show Jesus was God and argue He was not man and other cults can find verses and argue that Jesus was man and argue He was not God; either choice is a very serious heresy that could end you up in eternal penitentiary while you delude yourself “I’m saved”.

The basic Christian knows that God inspired David to direct the smooth stone that crushed Goliath’s head. Even children know that story, yet few even know it’s significance: why didn’t God simply just strike Goliath with lightening from heaven but instead He had man participate in the act of killing and even saving Israel in that fateful day when Goliath mocked and blasphemed the God of Heaven?

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There is more to the story of David and Goliath than meets the eye. While the stone was no spiritual stone, it too had a hidden spiritual meaning regarding the most crucial literal event in the history of mankind; that at some point in time, that another smooth and perfect stone will proceed from David and crush the devil’s head; Jesus, the Rock of all ages and the rejected foundation stone.

Only if we contemplate when we read Scripture and its multiple layers of meaning do we fully see and learn how not to be swayed by simplistic arguments that proceed from wolves in sheep clothing. Even Scripture, while inspired by God, man was the agent writing it using his best ability and as he wrote it and it was amazingly infallible. God wanted man to participate in the process of giving the message of redemption using his own language. So when the Muslim critic who fancies himself that the Quran is the word of God verbatim, dictaphoned to Muhammad by an angel of light, and he asks you the Christian: is the Bible God’s word or man’s?

The wise can see the tactics of wolves. The Muslim’s psyche is molded to always think in a singular and narrow tunnel vision. His nature mimics the nature of his Unitarian god, Allah, while the Christian God is Triune Who can be on earth, in Spirit and in Heaven all at the same time.

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The whole process of saving man, God had man participate in the plan of redemption and such a plan is etched in so many themes written in Scripture. And in everything Bible, no matter how valuable is the nugget one tries to share, scoffers are not far away ready to crush every logical conclusion. For example, I ask, and since all, God, man and rock, killed Goliath, who kills the Antichrist; a) Christ alone, b) Man alone, or c) Both?

I always get “It is Christ who will crush the head of Antichrist by the sword proceeding out of His mouth,” adding that “you see, therefore “man” has nothing to do with the act of killing the man of sin.”

And why do they give such an answer? It is either a lack of inductive study or the person is too lazy and wants Christ to do everything; Christians, according to the lazy scoffer, do nothing at all. The simpleton will even provide Scripture and verse as if they need to participate in nothing, that Jesus does it all:

“And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.” (2 Thessalonians 2:8)

“Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations.” (Revelation 19:15)

At face value, such an argument seems true, Scripture after all was provided and the matter is closed.

The lazy usually quotes correct verses but reaches the wrong conclusion. These verses, while true, standing ‘alone’ and ‘isolated’ without a complete understanding is a recipe for a disastrous conclusion. First of all, these verses are mixed with symbolism, a “sharp sword” is symbolic from the obvious context, and such a conclusion is in reality the process of literalizing what is symbolic.

While it is true that Christ is capable just to speak it and it would be done, but we must also seriously consider that without searching other similar themes in Scripture by using an inductive approach, which demands we search the whole of Scripture, we could get ourselves in serious trouble. Also, letting everybody be judge and jury over Scripture without capable pastoral church supervision and authority, is also a recipe for disaster, and if in doubt, just peruse the internet by plugging one word in your search engine “prophecy”. If you do this and you still think that all what you read is normal, than you are in the camp of the sick and you need healing.

The lazy servant ignores most of Scripture, which also speaks of literal weapons and even armies of men that combat Antichrist who is indwelled with Lucifer. This is found in several themes, for example, Ezekiel 28-39. In Ezekiel 28 we find:

“you say, “I am a god;
 I sit on the throne of a god …” (Ezekiel 28:1) “I am going to bring foreigners against you,
the most ruthless of nations;
 they will draw their swords against your beauty and wisdom
and pierce your shining splendor. They will bring you down to the pit,
and you will die a violent death
in the heart of the seas …” (Ezekiel 28:7-8) “You were in Eden,
the garden of God; 
every precious stone adorned you …” (Ezekiel 28:13).

When one reads: “They will bring you down,” there is no question that “they” pertains to the most “ruthless of nations” in battle. Think “Hiroshima” and which nation was the most ruthless in such battles that destroyed it. God will still use man to carry out His judgments. The Antichrist and his armies will be this future Goliath who will mock and blaspheme the God of Heaven. And then his end comes when Christ pronounces judgment proclaiming war against him by sending the most powerful nations against him. Think of an alliance of nations, think of a Russia allied with the U.S and Europe. While Christ leads this battle against Antichrist, He sends forth men to destroy him.

Therefore, the “sharp sword” in Revelation 19 is simply Christ’s proclamation of war in which we need to find much of the other detail such as in Ezekiel who includes all the nations that go with the devil into “the pit” with him, and each and every one of these nations is today Muslim.

And if in doubt of what I am saying here, just search the Bible for the word “pit” and see for yourself the amazing geographic detail. Lucifer will possess the Antichrist is clear from Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 in which his confederacy of nations are all specifically mentioned by name and are finally thrown into the pit. These are Sudan (Cush) and North African states (Phut) Lydia (Turkey) and all Arabia and Egypt (see Ezekiel 30:5); “Cush, and Put, and Lud (Lydia/Turkey), and all Arabia, and Libya, and the people of the land that is in league, shall fall with them by the sword.

Pay close attention to this “league” a confederacy of nations that make up Antichrist kingdom. They also include Asshur (Iraq – Syria), (see Ezekiel 32:22-23) and Elam (Iran) (see Ezekiel 32:24-25) and Meshech & Tubal (Asia minor which includes the Southern Russian Muslim states) (see Ezekiel 32:26) and the harlot (Arabia) (see Ezekiel 32:29, also see Ezekiel 25).

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While many popularize Ezekiel 38, such popularization is also a problem of isolating Scripture, as if God had favorite “chapter and verse,” but what about the whole theme starting from Ezekiel chapter 28 to Ezekiel chapter 38?

Therefore, to isolate, always spiritualize, and always allegorize what is literal, and then literalize what is allegoric is a dangerous practice of schismatic groups no matter how popular they are. You can usually find them by the great volume of their book sales.

I peruse a litany of worthless books and websites that say: the Mark of God and the Mark of the Beast can never be a literal mark. For example, Rick Joyner, a Dominion Theology cultist writes:

 “The mark of the beast is probably far more subtle than many have been led to believe, just as the mark of God is not something literal, but spiritual.”

While that is a possibility, one must never exclude that the biblical verses could also be referring to something that is quite literal and we must reserve our decisions as we move further into the future. Who knows after all, will the two witnesses or will the church authority in the future require us to be physically marked and reserved for God? Will we be disobedient to such authority? And if so, what does that say about us being the lazy servant or the obedient servant that Christ calls us to be?

We must never take the strict approach on the issue, especially since the marking of Christians either with the sign of the cross or other means was a regular practice commanded during the ancient Church even until this very day; the physical mark was abhorred way later by certain so-called reformers like John Calvin and their Puritan followers. These have made a great impact on how westerners psyche even in our modern times so when we review verses in Scripture that pertain to markings on the forehead we reflect their teachings while we ignore church history on how they interpreted such verses. One needs to decide whom to follow, Calvin, the Puritans or the church and what was practiced throughout all Christian history.

In the early church, baptism often involved the actual marking of the child with the sign of the cross on the forehead, which was seen as an exact parallel to the marking with a taw that Ezekiel envisaged in 9:4, since taw in the ancient script took the shape of a cross (see Origen, Selecta in Ezechielem, 13.800d; Tertullian, Against Marcion, 3.22; Jerome, Commentary on Ezekiel, 9:4–6).

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Yet some so-called reformers were unconvinced by this observation (see Calvin, Ezekiel I, 218, Institutes 4.17.28), and their Puritan followers argued strenuously against the “noxious ceremony” of signing the cross seeing it as a “superstitious,” “man-made ritual” as so many see it today and post the most common line by jotting a quick line that this is “all manmade tradition”.

Is it?

But perhaps its not, even the Anglican Church of England adopted the mark:

“WE receive this child into the congregation of Christ’s flock, and do sign him with the sign of the Cross, in token that hereafter he shall not be ashamed to confess the faith of Christ crucified, and manfully to fight under his banner, against sin, the world, and the devil; and to continue Christ’s faithful soldier and servant unto his life’s end. Amen. (The Proposed Book of Common Prayer (1928) of the Church of England)

And lest someone criticizes that this is “infant baptism,” besides the Old Testament mandated commands on several occasions, during the early Church we find the sign of the cross:

Tertullian (160- 225 AD): (De cor. Mil., iii), 
”in all our coming in and going out, in putting of our shoes, at the bath, at the table, in lighting our candles, in lying down, in sitting down, whatever employment occupieth us, we mark our foreheads with the sign of the cross”.

Origen (185- 284 AD): 
”This (the letter Tau) bears a resemblance to the figure of the cross; and this prophecy (Ezek. ix. 4) is said to regard the sign made by Christians on the forehead, which all believers make whatsoever work they begin upon, and especially at the beginning of prayers, or of holy readings” (T. iii. Select. in Ezek. c. ix).

St. Cyril of Jerusalem (c. 315-86 AD): 
”Let us not, therefore, be ashamed of the cross of Christ, but even though another hide it do thou openly seal it on thy brow, that the devils beholding that royal sign may flee far away trembling. But make thou this sign when thou eatest and drinkest, sittest or liest down, risest up, speakest, walkest; in a word, on every occasion, for He who was here crucified is above in the heavens” (Catech. iv. n. 14).

St. Cyril of Jerusalem: 
”Many have been crucified throughout the world but none of these do the devils dread, but Christ having been crucified for us, when they see but the sign of the cross the devils shudder” (Catech, xii. n. 22).

St. Augustine (354-430 AD): 
”What is the sign (or seal) of Christ, but the cross of Christ ?” (T. iii. Tract. cxviii. in Toan. n. 5).

St. Macarius of Egypt (300- 390 AD): 
”After the sign of the cross, grace immediately thus operates, and composes all the members and the heart, so that the soul from its abounding gladness seems as a youth that knows not evil” (Rom. ix. p. 481).

Were Tertullian, Origen, St. Cyril of Jerusalem, St. Augustine and Macarius including countless others throughout Church history all wrong? Even when a Catholic is baptized, the priest makes the sign of the cross on the person’s forehead three times, one for each Person of the Blessed Trinity.

And lest someone exclaims that such practices were merely symbolic, even when the Muslims tried to invade Rome when it was under the pontificate of Sergius II, the Muslims reached the Church of St. Paul, only to be crushed by resilient Italian Catholics. When the Muslims were about to enter Montecassino, southeast of Rome, monks begged God for mercy with prayer and ashes on their foreheads. Right before the Muslims gained entry, a storm struck and the floodwaters flowing through the Garigliano River blocked the barbarians. The Muslims made a truce, Pope Sergius II accepted, and the enemy departed. (See the commentary of Raymond Davis on the Liber Pontificalis, 104: Sergius II, n. 92)

The major problem with prophecy studies is that it focuses on end times only. “Alone” and “only” is dangerous; prophecy came for all times. While Revelation has an end time theme, it also speaks for the whole history of the church so when Christ warns about the Temple, and the Romans surrounded it, the Christians heeded and fled because Matthew 24 also included them and not only the end of days.

Even worshipping the “image of the beast” which at times can be the icon or idol of a cult, it wasn’t as the Christians for the first time had to deal with being forced to bow down and worship images and meteors that supposedly came from heaven. Today, Christians are still being forced to make a decision; to bow to Mecca’s black stone, an image of Islam’s beastly empire or get beheaded. A “beast” is a threat to the Church.

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Even during the fourth century during the Roman era, The Book of Revelations was being fulfilled when the political idol of the Romans was a certain shield believed to have fallen from heaven and to have been sent by Jupiter or Mars. The Christians were repulsed by this, and gave not the slightest bit of worship to it, and this of course was to the animosity of the 4th century pagan king Julian, who was so vindictive toward the Christians that he wrote a book entitled, Against the Christians, in which he chided them for rejecting the idolatrous shield, for drawing the Cross (the mark of God) on their foreheads, and for worshiping Jesus:

 “But you, O unfortunate men! neglecting to adore and reverence the heaven-descended shield which is preserved by us, and which was sent by the great Jupiter, or by the father Mars, as a most certain pledge that he will perpetually defend our city, you adore the wood of a cross, marking your forehead with the images of it, and engraving it in the vestibules of your dwellings. Whether, therefore, may any one deservedly hate the more intelligent, or pity the more insane among you, who following you have arrived at such perdition, as to neglect the eternal gods, and betake themselves to a dead body of the Jews.” (Julian, Against the Christians, p. 56, in The Arguments of the Emperor Julian, p.56)

And isn’t this what we are dealing with today? Isn’t this what ISIS, the Wahhabists, the Salafist, the Sufis, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood—no matter what brand of Islam it is—they all want the Christians to honor the image of their empire and bow to an object they believe fell from heaven? Does one think that because we live in the 21st century that things changed? The Bible is written for all times.

From the advent of Christianity to the Crusaders in the time of Godfrey of Boullion, the Nights of St. John in the Battle of Malta, Don Juan of Austria in the Battle of Lepanto to the Conquistadores in the invasion of Mexico, the cross was put on foreheads, arms and chests and was the symbol of battling evil. Armageddon is also like these, a battle, although it is the final battle between God and the devil, not much has changed, and we must never assume that marking ourselves simply became obsolete.

But objections will arise that God condemned the Christian from battling in wars and that the Crusaders including the Conquistadores were completely evil. Perhaps such views will finally be the proof test against the lazy servant who will suffer Christ’s proclamation “Depart from me,” since the wicked always see that even David and Solomon sinned and were ultimately pardoned, yet, they refuse to pardon others for similar sin as if they themselves were God announcing and denouncing who is and who is not saved, for such are the lazy servants whose motto is always “thou shall not judge” while not realizing how much judgment they pass on daily basis.

Therefore, we must give Scripture latitude that a physical mark, an identity mark if you will, is therefore plausible in order to proclaim to the world that we are Christian.

 

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Nothing changed, from Genesis and the mark of Cain, Moses and the mark on doorposts, to the Temple era in which the Tefillin is placed on all believers on the foreheads to the coming of Christ, markings are commanded by God. In Ezekiel 9:4 Ezekiel depicts a vision in which the tav plays a Passover role similar to the blood on the lintel and doorposts of a Hebrew home in Egypt. In Ezekiel’s vision, the Lord has his angels separate the demographic wheat from the chaff by going through Jerusalem, the capital city of ancient Israel, and inscribing a mark, a tav, “upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.”

In Ezekiel’s vision, then, the Lord is counting tav-marked Israelites as worthwhile to spare, but counts the people worthy of annihilation who lack the tav and the critical attitude it signifies. In other words, looking askance at a culture marked by dire moral decline is a kind of shibboleth for loyalty and zeal for God, (Cf. the New Testament’s condemnation of lukewarmness in Revelation 3:15-16) and so it will be when Christ comes, that the ones with the proper mark are saved while the ones without it are excluded as worthless lazy servants, regardless that they consider themselves “Christian” “saved”, do not be deceived into easy believism.

Since Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David and onward, even when Christ finally comes, if we examine the history of the faith, God always had divided between the “Cain” and the “Abel”; people who followed the correct instruction and people who refused to obey. Imagine if you were there during the Exodus and you told Moses “Its all simply blood, man,” “Yahweh is in my heart,” and then to be only shocked that your eldest son is found dead in the morning. It is an issue of obedience and disobedience. If we disobey in an investment of one talent, what then will we be like when the investment is a higher amount?

So many speculate about the Mark of the Beast in Revelation 13:16-17. They usually speculate about computer chips and such, yet they rarely if ever think of the Mark of Christ:

“… they were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any green growth or any tree, but only those of mankind who have not the seal of God upon their foreheads” (Revelation 9:4)

“Do not damage the land or the sea or the trees until we put the seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” (Revelation 7:3 NAB)

“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads.” (Revelation 14:1)

“And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.” (Revelation 22:4)

The Hebrew letter “taw” which in its primitive form of that letter is the “North Semitic taw” which is the common ancestor of both that Hebrew letter and our own letter “T,” and it looked like a plus sign. (See This Rock, September 1990, page 4, article by Don Schenk.)

The sacred symbol of the Cross went as far back even to Moses’ time. When the Israelites fought in a battle in the Seventeenth chapter of Exodus Moses prayed for God’s help. However, Moses prayers were only heard when he prayed with his hands extended making a cross or a “T” shape similar to the form of Christ when He was crucified. (Exodus 17, 9-14, see Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho, Chapter 90.) Moses who was an Old Testament prefigurement, or type of Christ demonstrated, probably unknowingly, the symbol by which we would be saved.

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So many who never mention the Mark of God, yet they give themselves the liberty to expound on computer chips and bar codes while so many others say that the Mark of the Beast is also an invisible mark.

But today we are already seeing that donning marks written on badges already placed on the foreheads is done by the most anti-Christ religion on earth; Islam. And this phenomenon has become a reality; the Muslim is posting a blasphemous badge on his forehead already, do we ignore this? The mark of the beast is defined in Revelation 13 as “the mark, which is the name of the beast.” First we need to understand that in the Bible, a “name” does not always indicate a literal name, as the modern Western mind understands the term. Consider, for example Isaiah prophesied that His Name shall be called Immanuel.

So, in the case of the Messiah, Mary and Joseph did not call him Immanuel, nor did Jesus’ friends call him “the Word of God.” Instead, these are all titles and/or descriptions that refer specifically to the nature and the character of Jesus. Also, the creed, or declaration of faith, in this Messiah matches His name: for we believe in God with us, and the Word was God, and He is also called Mighty God. (Isaiah 9:6) Those who call Jesus by these names affirm that they worship “the man-befriending God”, who “for our salvation, came down from heaven and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary,” (Nicene Creed). He is “the word which became flesh and dwelt amongst us,” (John 1). In conclusion, the name is a creed, dogma, article of faith, or statement of faith.

The significance of the Name of the Beast is that it is The Name of Blasphemy (Revelation 13:1). Biblically speaking, blasphemy is an anti-Yahweh or anti-Christ word or deed—to claim the attributes of God, claim to be Messiah, deny the Holy Spirit, deny the trinity, the cross, or even denying God’s edicts and declarations—are all blasphemy. Satan blasphemed when he said, “I will be like the Most High,” (Is. 14:14). Satan has always desired to be like God. He wishes to be considered equal to or greater than God. The name Allah in Islam is always used in conjunction with the word Ta’ala, The Most High. If we look again at the verse, we see that the Name of the Beast is not simply a name of blasphemy, but rather it is the name of blasphemy. It is the highest quintessential blasphemy—it claims to possess the attributes or nature of the God of the Bible. As such, the Name of the Beast is a claim to be equal to or greater than God and the Messiah. The Name of the Beast will contain or imply some form of anti-Christ doctrinal or creedal language that will exalt another above God.

We know that the Antichrist will be the premiere representative of a faith that worships not the God of the Bible, but rather the adversary, Satan disguised as God. The god of the Antichrist will not only be God’s premiere enemy, but he will masquerade as the Most High God.

This masquerading serves a two-fold purpose. First, of course, it fulfills Satan’s desire to be like God. Secondly, it confuses and deceives mankind into offering their worship to him instead of God.

The theology of Islam thoroughly—even systematically—fulfills all of the definitive elements of anti-Christ theology as specified by John the Apostle in his first epistle. Beyond denying the Father and the Son, Islam totally rejects the Trinity, Islam also denies the Divine Incarnation of Jesus Christ as the Son of God, as well as his death, burial and resurrection. But beyond all of this, Islam has memorialized its anti-Christ theology specifically in a creedal formula, The Shahadatan which is the Islamic creed or declaration of faith “There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is The One sent by Allah [The Messenger of Allah]”

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The two elements of this creed are the following: Allah is the only One True Supreme God and Muhammad (The Praised One) is the seal and final messenger of Allah.

These two components of the Shahadatan, in a very succinct manner, perhaps better than any creedal statement could, perfectly fulfill both dimensions of the definition of blasphemy that we just discussed. First, it attempts to claim that another god other than Yahweh is the Only True God.

And secondly, the Shahadatan is blasphemous toward the God of the Bible because it attempts to place Muhammad in the position that only Jesus the Messiah can fill and even give Muhammad attributes that belong to deity, as Al-Insan Al-Kamel, the perfect man; Rahmatan-lil-A’alameen, a mercy to all mankind; Al-rasul Al-A’tham, greatest of all sent by God; Shafi, Healer; Munji, saviour; Mahdi guided one/deliverer; Mustafa, chosen; Amir, the prince; Awal, first; Akher, last; Rasul Al-Malahim, messenger of the Last-Days battles, and finally Muhammad, the praised one.

Such are the blasphemous names of Muhammad. This in itself reconciles how when the Muslim Mahdi sits in the Temple of God and while he declares that he is God (2 Thessalonians), he also worships “honors a god” (Daniel 11) and “advances its [this god’s] glory” (Daniel 11:39) and will not “honor the god of his fathers” because he comes from a land that was previously Christian where the Seven Lamp stands and Seven Churches were.

While many spiritualize the mark, they need to look at the language. When we come to the biblical Greek word “charagma,” used for “mark” means “a stamp, an imprinted mark.” (Strongs #5480) So a follower of Antichrist will have a stamp on some sort of material as a badge to be placed on the forehead or arm. In John’s time, the use for “charagma” was reserved for slaves in what was called a badge of servitude.” (Strong’s 5482) So it’s a literal badge that declares slavery and ownership by the master and followers use it to demonstrate allegiance to this master. This would fit with Islam since according to Islamic theology, Muslims are “slaves of Allah.” Islam, after all, is the religion of submission.

These followers have an option to either place this badge of servitude on the foreheads or the arms. Western analysts think that the mark is placed on the hand. This is not necessarily the only spot. We know from the Greek word “dexios,” which could also be translated “right side”, “right arm” or “right shoulder”.

To become a Muslim (literally means submitter), one must confess the Shahadatan declaration to demonstrate allegiance and servitude to Allah and Muhammad. This submission is always combined with commitment to fight the world: “Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man? ‘Yes. In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.’” (Ishaq: 204) “We are steadfast trusting Him. We have a Prophet by whom we will conquer all men.” (Ishaq: 471) “In faith I do not fear the army of fate. He gave us the blood of their best men to drink when we led our army against them. We are a great army with a pungent smell. And we attack continuously, wherever our enemy is found.” (Ishaq: 574)

This declaration is worn by millions of Muslim Jihadists and it is fairly unique to Muslims and is becoming a prominent feature of the Jihadi movement. Do we just simply brush what we see and heed not John’s warnings? We study historic Christianity, but what about the future of Christianity and the path ahead? John’s prophecies were precisely written to look forward and heed God’s warnings.

The Lord is raising righteous nations to obliterate the Antichrist religion that is spreading its tentacles to shed innocent blood throughout the earth. So it is possible that this whole issue be simpler than we all think; it is not unusual after all for two opposite sides, the followers of Christ on the one side and the followers of Antichrist on the other, to express their allegiance by displaying physical marks that are visible to everyone; either for Christ or for Antichrist to show the world which side they are on and from reviewing the theme in Revelation, this conclusion makes sense. Its just what it says in the Bible and the way it says it.

The lazy servant always says: “all that I need to know is that I’m saved”, after all, it’s all about salvation. I already heard it so many times.

Beware of such isolated mottos. In fact, what you will find out is that when you reverse their mottos, you get the correct motto; reverse “its all about salvation” and you get “Its what salvation is all about” and when the Muslim says “its all about worshiping God alone,” reverse that and we get; “God alone worship” is what Islam is all about; indeed, Islam’s bottom line is that we do not worship Father, Son and Holy Spirit and is why it’s the religion of Antichrist. And when the lazy servant says vague mottos like “its all about Jesus”, tell him “this is vague, reversing lonely mottos makes more sense, “it’s not all about Jesus only, but its also what Jesus is all about””.

The lazy knows how to isolate a few verses as if this is all what is required. He is keen on how to literalize the allegory and allegorizing literal. He does whatever it takes to keep him a lazy servant and he believes that man will never participate in any act of man’s redemption; “Christ does it all” as if God would strike Goliath with lightening and no stone was necessary, after all, its all spiritual. The lazy servant does not even know he is unintentionally deceiving since even Scripture exposes them as “deceiving while being deceived.” (2 Timothy 3:13)

You who is reading, examine your heart, it is possible that its time to repent. I too need much repentance. But the question I have is; whom do I confess my sins to; God, man, or both?

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  • Robert Paton

    Don’t confess sins to man. They use it to condemn, manipulate, and control your life. I’ll confess to a fellow Christian whom I can trust and/or help with a particular situation. (Edification of the church) – Been burned by to many pastors standing high on their pedestal. My sins where thrown as far as the East is from the West, and forgotten! AMEN

    • shoebat

      Look beyond the words I wrote, by “man” I meant a brother, not a shaman.

      • Robert Paton

        I had a whole list of comments; I just didn’t want to clog your blog. lol

    • shoebat

      Why make such a statement without searching the Scriptures which is precisely the purpose of the article. The article was intended to gather people who are so focused on Prophecy, yet they ignore the purpose of Prophecy. Where are your Scripture verses? All I see are the words of man; you.

      And why only comment on the last few words I wrote and you do not give an opinion on everything I wrote?

      Now to your question. The answer is: Perhaps because asking others and confessing to one another is an instruction in the Bible?

      Matthew 9:6-8English Standard Version (ESV)

      “But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins”—he then said to the paralytic—“Rise, pick up your bed and go home.” And he rose and went home. 8 When the crowds saw it, they were afraid, and they glorified God, who had given such authority to men.”

      “given such authority to men”?

      Jesus tells us that He was given authority on earth to forgive sins (a power reserved to God alone) and proves it with miraculous healings and then Scripture notes this same authority was given to “men” (plural). Is this merely a figure of speech? No, John’s Gospel makes it clear Jesus intended to also give to men:

      John 20: 21-23: In his very first Resurrection appearance our Lord gives this awesome power to his Apostles with the words:

      “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”

      How could they forgive sins if they were not confessed? They could not. This authority comes through the gift of the Holy Spirit which precedes it.

      Such practice was aleo in the Old Testament times:

      Leviticus 19: 20-22: A man who committed adultery had to bring a guilt offering for himself to the door of the tent of meeting (holy place where the ark of the covenant, which contained God’s true presence was kept). But then it adds “And the priest shall make atonement for him …before the Lord for his sin…and the sin which he has committed shall be forgiven.” (see also Leviticus 5: 5-6) The priest could not make atonement if he were not aware of the man’s sin. He is acting as a mediator for the repentant sinner.

      The complaint might be, well that is the Old Testament, but now we have Jesus, who suffered for our sins. What does the New Testament have to say?

      Matthew 3: 16 (and Mk 1: 5): “. . . they were baptized by him [John the Baptist] in the river Jordan, confessing their sins.”

      Do you see that “CONFESSING THEIR SINS”.

      So he who prepared the way for Christ, listened to confessions of sin.

      James 5: 14-17: “Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; 15 and the prayer of faith will save the sick man, and the Lord will raise him up; and if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. 16 Therefore confess your sins to one another …”

      “CONFESS YOUR SINS TO ONE ANOTHER”.

      This is a clear instruction.

      Now are we to be lazy and ignore Scripture when Scripture is blatantly clear on this, or do we listen to men telling us that “to confess our sins to one another” is now obsolete just because Catholics do it? Is the issue an issue of Catholic vs. non-Catholic or is the issue an issue of disobedience in the name of God? This is the serious question everyone needs to ask themselves, have we become rebellious or are we obedient? .

    • Fr Christopher P. Kelley, DD

      The “Seal of the Confessional” is Absolute. A priest may not disclose anything that is said to him in Confession, even if called to Court. If a Priest breaks the Seal, he is deposed. The Church is very strict about this. Under the Nazis, priests went to their death rather than break the Seal.
      Confession to a priest is not because he is “better than you.” He says at the end, “Go in peace. And pray sometime for me, a sinner.”
      He does not take a role as “mediator,” but as St James says, “confess your sins to one another, and *pray for* one another, that you may be healed.” (Js 5:16)
      That is an Apostolic Injunction, a Command… it is not “permissive.”
      From Whom did St James learn this, that he puts it so strongly?
      From JESUS!
      The LORD’s Very First Gift to His Church on Easter Day was the Authority to Forgive Sins. This was granted to His Apostles. (Jn 20:22-23) It presumes that the one being forgiven has first spoken out, named, the sins to be forgiven.
      This is why the lineage of St John Baptist was so important: He was by lineage a PRIEST. Therefore, as from Moses’ time, sins were confessed (aloud) TO HIM by those he baptized. This also occurred when people offered private “sin offerings” in the Temple, and they made their confessions to the priest. The pattern under Moses was from GOD. It was, of course, retained by our LORD.

      Naming the sin is much like the exorcisms which our Lord did, requiring the demon to cough up its name (its identity, its power). Naming breaks the power of the sin. It must be spoken to accomplish this, not just “thought about.”

      Find a Trustworthy pastor who knows that he bears responsibility to GOD and the CHURCH to be faithful in this Divinely-given Ministry of Reconciliation.
      REJOICE that God has provided this Gift to His Church! — for our Healing!
      This often comes in the Counsel a good Confessor can provide.
      Speaking from experience, I know that the Holy Spirit often “takes over” at that time, giving “words of wisdom” that I had never thought of, which have proven to be very apt for the Penitent, and very fruitful.

  • 1Bobby8

    Excellent and thought provoking article. Walid Shoebat hits another homerun.
    “Those who are know history cease to be Protestant” ~ Bishop John Henry Newman

    • shoebat

      So do I confess my sins to man, to God or both?

      • 1Bobby8

        To both, that’s where the confessional comes in.

      • To God. But if a Man question you about something then you can confess to him.. If you did a wrong doing to some man, you can ask him to forgive you.. If a man ask if you ever stole something ,you need to answer truthfully, But it is God alone and Jesus that can really forgive your sins…

        • Mostly Chase

          Valid, the only thing missing from your excellent teachings are teachings about the hated deeds and doctrines of the Nicolaitans that Messiah hates and exactly “who” they are…the ones who have elevated themselves (like Lucifer)above the brethren..”Pastors Rabbis, Priests” and any other positions or titles that distinguishes and a man above his brothers.

  • Rapheal Sebastian

    Walid, your article shows the gift God has bestowed upon you is not wasted. Thank you for the time spent in putting this article together and I thank God for inspiring you. You have given me a lot to think about and a lot of wonderful insight. May our Lord continue to inspire you, bless you and shine His countenance upon you.

    • koolmom21

      Amen!

      • shoebat

        Much appreciated Sebastian. Just preparing others for what is to come.

  • We can share our heartfelt need for repentance to others (friends and clergy) and seek their support in prayer, but, ultimately it is only God who is able to truly forgive when we go directly to Him through the New Testament Jesus.
    Jesus said, “I Am The Way, The Truth and The Life; No Man Can Come Unto The Father Except Through Me.” (John 14:6)

    • shoebat

      “Jesus said, “I Am The Way, The Truth and The Life; No Man Can Come Unto The Father Except Through Me.” (John 14:6)”

      First question: Is this the only thing Jesus said?

      Second question is regarding your statement, when you stated:

      “ultimately it is only God who is able to truly forgive when we go directly to Him through the New Testament Jesus.”

      Go directly?

      What if I didn’t “go directly” and I asked you to pray for me that Christ forgive a certain sin, and you prayed for me to Jesus, could Jesus choose if He wants to forgive my sin in response to your prayer on my behalf? I didn’t in this case “go directly to Jesus,”

      If so, would this negate the verse you quoted and therefore what I did in asking you would have been wrong? Or would this mean that your interpretation of “no one comes through the Father but by me” needs more consideration of what is in the rest of Scripture?

      • The Question is, does a person want God to personally know that we sincerely desire to repent, or, do you think God would wants to hear it “second-hand” rather that personally from the individual?
        1 John 5:13-15 ———————————————————————

        New International Version (NIV) Concluding Affirmations

        13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.
        14 This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.
        15 And if we know that he hears us—whatever we
        ask—we know that we have what we asked of him.
        ——————————————————————————————-
        God wants to hear from each individual that they are remorseful of transgressions against Him, and seek His forgiveness which has been made available only through the Atoning Blood of His Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ. God, through Christ made it possible and this is what we acknowledge directly to God, thanking Him that He has provided the way for our Forgiveness and Salvation. Then ask Jesus to be your personal Lord and Saviour.

        • shoebat

          This is the problem that I run into with a lot when I have discussion of some comment section that most of the time people do not answer the specific question and they go on with some general instruction as if we never heard this. Here are my questions again (for the last time):

          You wrote: “Jesus said, “I Am The Way, The Truth and The Life; No Man Can Come Unto The Father Except Through Me.” (John 14:6)”

          First question: Is this the only thing Jesus said?

          YES/NO?

          Second question is regarding your statement, when you stated:

          “ultimately it is only God who is able to truly forgive when we go directly to Him through the New Testament Jesus.”

          Go directly?

          What if I didn’t “go directly” and I asked you to pray for me that Christ forgive a certain sin, and you prayed for me to Jesus, could Jesus choose if He wants to forgive my sin in response to your prayer on my behalf? I didn’t in this case “go directly to Jesus,”

          If so, would this negate the verse you quoted and therefore what I did in asking you would have been wrong? Or would this mean that your interpretation of “no one comes through the Father but by me” needs more consideration of what is in the rest of Scripture? Where in the Scripture does it say “no one comes to the Father IN PRAYER but by Me”? Your suggestion adds at least two words to the words of Jesus. All Jesus said was “no one comes to the Father but by Me”. True Indeed.

          • Quote: “First question: Is this the only thing Jesus said?
            YES/NO?”

            Answer: Of course not, Walid. Jesus had many things to say but included in that is that He Is The Way. That means that you don’t need to ask anyone else. Jesus said that He stands at the door and knocks. If anyone opens the door, He will come in and sup with them. He is asking for a personal invitation from you to ask Him into your heart, your life, and to be your Lord and Saviour. ——————————————————–

            Jesus said: “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. (Rev. 3:20) ——————

            Quote: ” Go directly? What if I didn’t “go directly” and I asked you to pray for me that Christ forgive a certain sin, and you prayed for me to Jesus, could Jesus choose if He wants to forgive my sin in response to your prayer on my behalf? I didn’t in this case “go directly to Jesus,”
            If so, would this negate the verse you quoted and therefore what I did in asking you would have been wrong?”

            Yes it would be wrong. I would have to refer you to go to The Lord directly as He asks us to. I can pray for you and with you but it is Christ who shed His Blood for you and it is He alone that a person must personally turn to and ask to be his/her Lord and Saviour. ———————————–

            Jesus said: “Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. (Matthew 11:28)
            ———————————————————————–
            Sounds like a personal invitation to me, Walid. God wants us to go to him directly. He hears our prayers, as cited in the previous post, so why not talk (pray) to Him directly? 🙂

          • shoebat

            Mike, as to someone else who prays on your behalf you answered with “Yes it would be wrong.”

            And by that you contradicted Scripture where it has enough themes about intersession.

            I rest my case.

          • Walid, no other person can forgive your sins. I stated that I can pray with you and for you but to ask God to forgive you is something you need to do on your own and directly to Him.
            For example: You tell Theodore not to do something that you actually forbid and that it is bad and he will be punished if he does it. Theodore goes ahead and does it anyway then runs to his best friend and says, “I did wrong, something that Dad told me not to do. Go tell Dad I’m sorry and to forgive me.”
            Wouldn’t you have rather had Theodore come to you directly; confess to you, directly; seek your forgiveness, directly; and allow you to tell him personally that you forgive him for going against your will? You still love him, even though he did wrong, but you are glad he owned up and confessed it directly to you.
            Walid, we all must own up to our transgressions with God, personally, as He is the only One who can say to you that you are forgiven. If you sincerely believe that you don’t need to ask God for forgiveness, directly, and that you can go to another person to ask for you, then, Walid, that is your prerogative. I, too, rest my case on this and want you to know that I can pray for you and with you, and I will – but to forgive sins is yours for the asking and I believe God would like to hear from everyone on this, personally. 🙂

          • shoebat

            “Walid, no other person can forgive your sins.”

            Really? I didn’t know that.

            “I stated that I can pray with you and for you but to ask God to forgive you is something you need to do on your own and directly to Him.”

            I never knew that either.

            “For example: You tell Theodore not to do something that you actually forbid and that it is bad and he will be punished if he does it. Theodore goes ahead and does it anyway then runs to his best friend and says, “I did wrong, something that Dad told me not to do. Go tell Dad I’m sorry and to forgive me.”

            Ok.

            “Wouldn’t you have rather had Theodore come to you directly;”

            No. I might kill him. But if his friend came its much easier since his friend had done nothing wrong.

            “Walid, we all must own up to our transgressions with God, personally, as He is the only One who can say to you that you are forgiven. If you sincerely believe that you don’t need to ask God for forgiveness, directly, and that you can go to another person to ask for you, then, Walid, that is your prerogative.”

            Amazing.

            ” I, too, rest my case on this and want you to know that I can pray for you and with you, and I will – but to forgive sins is yours for the asking and I believe God would like to hear from you and everyone on this, personally. :)”

            Well Mike, all you said here was Mike, Chapter 1 Verses 1-20. Can you than interpret this verse:

            “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”

            Much appreciated for your wisdom.

          • WS:”Really? I didn’t know that.”

            We are to personally forgive someone who has done us wrong, especially when they remorsefully come to us and ask our forgiveness. If you have transgressed against God, it is to Him that you need to go and ask forgiveness.

            WS: “No. I might kill him. But if his friend came its much easier since his friend had done nothing wrong.”

            You have projected your fear of going directly to God. You are afraid that He will kill you. As far as Theodore’s friend not doing anything wrong, how do you know that? Perhaps he was in cahoots with Theodore in the wrongdoing. What if you confess to a pedophile priest who has done wrong in the eyes of God, do you think God is going to take that priest seriously?

            WS: “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”

            The “any” refers to any other person. We are to forgive one another for human transgressions (sins) against one another. If a brother or sister faults you and asks forgiveness it is up to you to forgive them. If you retain their transgressions (sins) you retain them as being un-forgiven.

            WS: “Much appreciated for your wisdom.”
            I’ll take that in the way I believe you meant it to be taken. 🙂

          • shoebat

            you never answered my question: Can you than interpret this verse:

            “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”

          • First, answer me this, what I asked:
            What if you confess to a pedophile priest who has done wrong in the eyes of God, do you think God is going to take that priest seriously?

            YES? / NO?

          • Julie LaBrecque

            YES

          • Julie LaBrecque

            Yes, God takes that ‘pedophile’ priest seriously, just as much as He takes us sinners seriously. Did God take David the murderer and adulterer seriously? What about Moses?

          • zotrules

            It’s never the same, Walid.
            Catholic confession and what the bible says. Never! In the name of Jesus!
            Would you be willing to admit that at some point in time the absolution was sold for money by the Catholic Church? And that lasted for CENTURIES.
            Do you know what the offered remedy is in 99.999% of the cases? Recite a hundred holy Maries! (Depending on the “gravity”)
            Do you know how that goes?
            Do you also know that this type of confessional has led to this church teaching(it’s actually very important) that you could also pray for and to the dead and ask for their intercession?
            Did you know that this church has sold for years the theory that people can’t go directly to God?
            The death-grip they’ve had on their sphere of influence for centuries!
            This is not the confession the bible talks about! This is heresy!
            I will worship only the living God. No other image. Pray and kneel before no one else. The very commandment (2nd) this church has blotted out! The promise of the living God that I (you…) will have NO other gods. So directly to HIM.
            Not the same confessional. I reject it and the air around it.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            Rev 3:20 is specifically referring to the Eucharist.

  • watchmanonthetower

    Concise, accurate, informative, well-researched and referenced with a resolve self-evident in the truth of your perceptions combined with a comprehensive investigation delivered in a confident tone with the resulting gravitas clearly impacting the reader with their own internal investigation: am I ready?

    How rare!

    Thank you.
    ~Watchman

    • shoebat

      You perhaps can help write Watchman.

  • Robert Paton

    Very informative Walid. It should have a highlighted spot on the right side of the page for awhile.

    • shoebat

      I wil see what I can do. Thanks for putting up with my too many words.

  • Lidia

    The crescent moon on top of the clock tower in Mecca looks like a golden horn. It’s very noticeable in the picture above.

    • shoebat

      Thats why I posted it. Keen eye Lidia.

  • shoebat

    Why make such a statement with searching the Scriptures? Where are your Scripture verses? All I see are the words of man; you.

    And why only comment on the last few words I wrote and you do not give an opinion on everything I wrote?

    Perhaps because asking others and confessing to one another is an instruction in the Bible?

    Matthew 9:6-8English Standard Version (ESV)

    “But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins”—he then said to the paralytic—“Rise, pick up your bed and go home.” And he rose and went home. 8 When the crowds saw it, they were afraid, and they glorified God, who had given such authority to men.”

    “given such authority to men”?

    Jesus tells us that He was given authority on earth to forgive sins (a power reserved to God alone) and proves it with miraculous healings and then Scripture notes this same authority was given to “men” (plural). Is this merely a figure of speech? No, John’s Gospel makes it clear Jesus intended to also give to men:

    John 20: 21-23: In his very first Resurrection appearance our Lord gives this awesome power to his Apostles with the words:

    “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”

    How could they forgive sins if they were not confessed? They could not. This authority comes through the gift of the Holy Spirit which precedes it.

    Such practice was aleo in the Old Testament times:

    Leviticus 19: 20-22: A man who committed adultery had to bring a guilt offering for himself to the door of the tent of meeting (holy place where the ark of the covenant, which contained God’s true presence was kept). But then it adds “And the priest shall make atonement for him …before the Lord for his sin…and the sin which he has committed shall be forgiven.” (see also Leviticus 5: 5-6) The priest could not make atonement if he were not aware of the man’s sin. He is acting as a mediator for the repentant sinner.

    The complaint might be, well that is the Old Testament, but now we have Jesus, who suffered for our sins. What does the New Testament have to say?

    Matthew 3: 16 (and Mk 1: 5): “. . . they were baptized by him [John the Baptist] in the river Jordan, confessing their sins.”

    So he who prepared the way for Christ, listened to confessions of sin.

    John the Baptist, whom Jesus called him the greatest “among them that are born of woman,” preached a baptism of repentance. Mark tells us that “. . . there went out to him all the country of Judea, and all the people of Jerusalem; and they were baptized by him in the river Jordan, confessing their sins.”

    James 5: 14-17: “Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; 15 and the prayer of faith will save the sick man, and the Lord will raise him up; and if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. 16 Therefore confess your sins to one another …”

    “CONFESS YOUR SINS TO ONE ANOTHER”.

    This is a clear instruction.

    Now are we to be lazy and ignore Scripture when Scripture is blatantly clear on this, or do we listen to men telling us that “to confess our sins to one another” is now obsolete just because Catholics do it? Is the issue an issue of Catholic vs. non-Catholic or is the issue an issue of disobedience in the name of God? This is the serious question everyone needs to ask themselves, have we become rebellious or are we obedient?

    • Shaun D.

      No man on Earth (other than Jesus Christ), HAS the power to forgive us of sins. (adultery, lying, stealing, murder, rape, idolatry, coveting, etc etc etc).

      We CAN forgive one another wrongs done unto us, but that doesn’t clear the sins of others (mentioned above) from their sins.

      No man on this Earth is in the place of God to forgive personal sins…….

      the reason we are to “confess” our sins to one another is to bring our deeds to the light. Once we confess we then can be prayed for and receive healing AND forgiveness from GOD.

      God bless!!

      • shoebat

        I am at a loss Shaun which should I believe:

        “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”

        Or:

        “No man on Earth (other than Jesus Christ), HAS the power to forgive us of sins. (adultery, lying, stealing, murder, rape, idolatry, coveting,”

        Should I believe John or Shaun?

        Who is speaking for God, John or Shaun?

      • Julie LaBrecque

        Incorrect. Even Paul said he was given the ministry of reconciliation.

  • shoebat

    NO. I am aware of the world order that God warned about in Scripture.

    • momprayn

      Good one Walid

    • Mostly Chase

      Lol.

  • shoebat

    Your right.

    • dovari

      Thanks

  • shoebat

    And you as well Blasphemy.

  • shoebat

    Well put brother James. I never liked the word “alone”, its not only such a lonely word, its also not mentioned in the verses that most use to bash Catholic teaching. O my, I used the word “Catholic”, now I am in serious trouble.

  • shoebat

    If you are “old school” I am “ancient school”.

  • shoebat

    Strange, I wrote it primarily for you. If you recall your old comments on a different article you wrote:

    “How about 2 Thes 2:8 that says: And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.

    It doesn’t seem to say Russians or anybody else will win. In fact I’m pretty sure it is NOT what it says.
    We have a contradiction here Walid. How do we solve it? I’m gonna go with what Paul says that the antichrist will be consumed by the presence of our Lord’s descending.”

    Here you were a perfect example of Scripture isolation, yet all I wrote for you seem to go in one ear and out the other.

    No, I can’t exchange emails, its best to post here.

    • zotrules

      Point 4 on the article.
      Ezekiel 28.
      It most certainly speaks of the king of Tyre whilst parallel to that speaks of Satan.
      This is a scripture isolation case, because if the whole chapter was quoted the point would become very clear.
      It could mean antichrist as satan is anti Christ, but it doesn’t mean the false Messiah the revelation speaks about as this pervert has never been in Eden or the mountain of God, or was created any more perfect than the rest of us lest he fell from glory because of his brightness and pride.
      We can see what happened to the king of Tyre as there’s more verses in the scripture, fully accomplished.
      But, in any event brother Walid; we both can agree that Tyre is in today’s Lebanon and not in Turkey and neither are the lebanese turkish nor phoenicia ns or philistines (canaanites).
      Point 5.
      Without being too repetitive; the sharp sword coming out of Jesus’ mouth rises against the nations.
      “Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations.” (Revelation 19:15)
      It contradicts in face value the following:
      “Therefore, the “sharp sword” in Revelation 19 is simply Christ’s proclamation of war in which we need to find much of the other detail such as in Ezekiel who includes all the nations that go with the devil into “the pit” with him…” or the allegation that this is how antichrist will end. I cannot forget what 2 Thes. says.
      I can see how this could be derived but it’s so farfetched I seem to lose connection with the scripture.

    • zotrules

      Point 6.
      You seem to incite christians to race to the weapons and fight. You do not emphasise fight against Islam just spiritually. In fact I’m pretty sure you’re calling for a battle against – if I can put it plainly and raw, flesh and blood. It is evident when you restate that you have biblical proof that we Christians should stand up and fight against the armies of antichrist. The islamic armies of this 10 state caliphate. Against those who have the insignia on their forehead or elsewhere.
      Daniel: 7: 21. I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them; 22. Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High.
      +
      Revelation: 13. 7. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
      Need I remind anyone that war against flesh and blood ends up like that?
      After all, didn’t Jesus tell us so?
      Matthew: 26. 52. Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
      Matthew: 5. 39. But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
      Didn’t apostle Paul say the same thing?
      Ephesians: 6. 12. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
      Aren’t you saying the exact opposite?

    • zotrules

      Point 7.
      The Holy Spirit is the one that convinces of sin.
      Our primary duty as Christians is to spread the gospel of Jesus to all creatures. Obviously including muslims. We are supposed to pass on the message of salvation that we once received. We need to call people to know Jesus and repent of their sins. The bible is so full of this that I will not give any reference, also because you don’t need me to tell you where it’s written.
      Throughout this article, the theme of the love of God for these people is completely absent. The message of salvation is also absent. So is the fact that Jesus died for these muslims too. Imagine if I had listened(obeyed) to such a theory, say 26 years ago and decided to start my “holy” war against a young muslim in Palestine. He wears a sign in his forehead. He also has a band on his arm. I am convinced by the article that I am fighting against antichrist and his hordes. I shoot at the person. Taking away from Jesus that chance to welcome him in His Kingdom. I was supposed to take him to the Source of life. His name is…
      Hypothetical, yes; but you can see first hand how grace works; and although I knew Jesus by reading Mathew alone, I still know what I should or should not do in His Name. If grace came to me, that is what I will let come out of me.

  • AnthonyM

    Great article Walid, well done. Phil 3:13 There is nothing I cannot master with the help of the One who gives me strength.

    • shoebat

      There you are Anthony, I was wondering what happened to you. Glad to see you live and well.

      • AnthonyM

        Still in here swinging. Some days there is only time to read, and I see others have already handled the odd objections so well.

        • shoebat

          How many times I tell you to watch your words “Still in here swinging” 🙂

          • AnthonyM

            You right, I need to proof-read.

  • shoebat

    Much appreciated for your prayers Mr. Njoku.

  • shoebat

    Your welcome paz82.

  • shoebat

    I am a man who would love to simply be the donkey for Jesus.

  • shoebat

    Bless you as well Joan.

  • shoebat

    Joan, this is an excellent analysis. I was also wondering myself as to “five” and the Lord answered through you. Lord bless you and keep you.

  • billobillo54

    Thanks for the article. The first main theme, that the Church should recognize the antichrist as a man closely associated and identified with and by Islam is correct (many Protestants: guilty of ignorance). And I must thank you a million times for teaching me this (e.g. “God’s War On Terror’). The next main theme, that Christians must correctly identify the antichrist and Islam and fight against Islam I understand and I completely subscribe to (and again I thank you and hold you in high esteem for your insight which certainly has been granted by the Holy Spirit; again many Protestants guilty of laziness, fatalism and ignorance). I also, as a Protestant Evangelical, like many Protestants, see the limitations, sins, failure and even hypocrisy of some and actually many of us in regard to this issue and many others. We confess this and seek to follow Jesus ourselves.
    Here’s where you completely lose me: Honestly, Protestant Evangelicals are much more interested in and focused on prophecy than Catholics. Where is the admonition towards them? Marcus Grody ((EWTN) MOCKS and derides any detailed interest in prophecy). Protestant Evangelicals support Israel much more than Catholics do. Protestant Evangelicals reject the Palestinian political agenda and even a “smidgeon” of legitimacy of Islam MUCH more than Catholics. Again, where is the admonition and criticism against the Catholics? Rick Warren’s statement about the mark of the beast is no different than many if not the majority of Catholics, yet only Warren is condemned here. And, as I’ve pointed out here before, Rick Warren at least states emphatically that Christians and Muslims DO NOT worship the same God, while Catholicism states that Christians and Muslims DO worship the same God. Where’s the call for repentance to the CATHOLIC Bishops who support the PA and Hamas? Where is the call for repentance for the Eastern Christians who condemn Israel? Where is the call for repentance to Pope Francis who states that any mixture of politics and faith is “mental illness?”
    All Christians are failing in opposing the antichrist. Certainly Evangelicals are failing, being lazy and being fatalistic. Catholics are worse.

    • Steve Smith

      billobillo54, we Orthodox do have prophecy it’s just you are not exposed to it.

      http://02varvara.wordpress.com/2014/09/09/prophecies-of-venerable-st-lavrenty-chernigovsky/

      we have several Saints like St Matrona, St Serafim of Sarov, ect

      • billobillo54

        Bro Steve: Everyone “has prophecy.” According to Walid, if I understand him, the Church must first recognize that the antichrist is associated with and closely identified with Islam. Also, the Church must have a very politically, socially and militarily militant attitude and series of actions against Islam. Roman Catholicism, Protestant Evangelicalism, The Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, Muslims all “have prophecy.” But very few, again, recognize Islam as being associated with and representative of the antichrist. And fewer yet, are advocates of military action against the manifestations of the antichrist and Islam.

        • Steve Smith

          Ours do come true just look at St Seraphim.

          • billobillo54

            Bro: Here’s what the text says about St. Seraphim:

            “Prophecies often seem strange… but they ARE warnings that Christians disregard at their own risk. Do recall St Serafim Sarovsky’s prophecies given to the last tsar… they came true in every particular. Remember, we DO hold the future in our hands… the True Church does NOT teach predestination or fatalism. Bear that in mind as you read this.”

            I must add: The Bible is clear about prophecy. Here are a few examples from the top of my head:

            1. The Messiah will return by appearing on the Mt. of Olives (Acts 1 and Zechariah 14)
            2. The Messiah would be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11)
            3. The Messiah would be silent while being killed. (Isaiah 53)
            4. The antimessiah’s people would be the same people (Hebrew “am” meaning “ethnic group” who destroyed the Second Temple Daniel 9).
            5. When the Abomination that causes Desolation occurs Jews in Judah will be in danger being subjected to mass murder (Matthew 24:15)
            6. The Messiah would be “mutilated” (Hebrew “karat’) before the Second Temple was destroyed (Daniel 9).
            7. The Israelis will, at the end of the age, be a terror to the inhabitants of “Yavan” (i.e. ancient Ionia, modern West Turkey; Zechariah 9).
            8. Messiah would be crucified (Psalm 22).
            9. Messiah would be born in Bethlehem Ephrata (Micah 5) and also come from Egypt (Hosea) and Galilee (Isaiah).
            10. Egypt will be ruled by the antichrist in a very cruel fashion at the end of the age (Isaiah 19).
            11. Jews will not see Messiah Jesus in Israel again until the Israelis learn to say to Jesus “Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord.”
            12. The rapture will occur after the “falling away” occurs and the Man of Sin is revealed.
            13. Saints will die from beheading during the Great Tribulation (Revelation 20).
            14. God will take revenge against ALL of the nations who oppose Israel and the Israelis at the end of the age (Zechariah 14 and many, many other texts of Scripture).
            15. Israelis in Judah and Jerusalem will fight against the enemies of Israel at the end of the age with supernatural ability (Zechariah 14)
            16. YHWH will destroy the enemies of Israel who live to Israel’s east where Edom, Moab and Mt. Seir existed (Obadiah, et al)
            17. Messiah will destroy the enemies of Israel like Gideon killed the princes of Midian (Isaiah 9).
            18. The Church will prevail through this age and forever.
            19. Messiah would be born of a virgin (Isaiah 7)
            20. Iran will be a player at the end of the age (see the prophecy of Balaam in Numbers).
            21. Jesus will judge unbelievers by their attitude and actions TOWARDS MESSIANIC JEWS IN ISRAEL:”WHAT YOU DO TO THESE THE LEAST OF MY BROTHERS YOU DO TO ME.”
            22. Jerusalem would be destroyed after the death of Jesus (Luke 21).
            23. Jerusalem would be controlled by Gentiles until the end of the age (Luke 21).
            24. The antichrist will invade Israel at the end of the age (Micah 5).
            25. YHWH will raise up “7 princes and 8 principled men” to assist the Israelis against the “Assyrian” at the end of the age (Micah 5).
            26. At some point, at the end of the age, no nation will help YHWH defend the Israelis. The lack of Gentile assistance will “astonish” YHWH (Isaiah 63).
            27. Antichrist’s dead body will be viewed by Saints (Isaiah 14).
            28. At some point, at the end of the age, Damascus Syria will be annihilated (Isaiah 17).
            29. The Israelis will be struck and strategically hurt at the same time of the destruction of Damascus (Isaiah 17).
            30. Many nations will be aligned against Israel and The Messiah at the end of the age (Psalm 2).
            31. The enemies of Israel at the end of the age will include all the Muslim nations surrounding Israel (Psalm 82).
            32. Many “Saints” will act valiantly and do “great exploits” for YHWH at the end of the age (Daniel 12).
            33. The Saints will be “worn out” by antichrist at the end of the age (Daniel 11).
            34. Messiah will take the crescent image from the antichrist before killing him at the end of the age (see Gideon v. Midianites and Isaiah 9-10).
            35. There will be millions and millions of people saved by faith in Jesus at the end of the age (Revelation).
            36. Many will fall away from the faith at the end of the age (Matthew 24).
            37. A large number of Jews, 2/3 of the nation, will be taken captive at the end of the age (Zechariah).
            38. YHWH would reestablish the nation of Israel at the end of the age (the entire OT, e.g. Ezekiel 36-37).
            39. YHWH will die for His people (Zechariah 12).
            40. Messiah will be called “Mighty God” and “Father of Eternity” (Isaiah 9).
            Peace Bro-

          • shoebat

            BilloBillo, You seem to have it all pat down. One thing, as far as 2/3 of the Jews being killed, some believe that this was fulfilled when the Shepherd (Messiah) was struck.

          • billobillo54

            I don’t know…But I thank you for your insight…I learned this from Walid Shoebat…The Scriptures are simple and very clear….

      • billobillo54

        Also, Bro Steve, I visited the word press site you listed. Yes, there is prophecy. And, no it does not rise to the standard that Walid Shebat is advocating as necessary: The standard is the following: 1) Christians must recognize that Islam is directly and closely associated with the antichrist. 2) Christians must actively and militantly oppose the antichrist and Islam. I subscribe and affirm to both propositions. I also confess that the ENTIRE LOT OF PROFESSING CHRISTIANS ESPECIALLY INCLUDING PROTESTANTS, EVANGELICALS, FUNDAMENTALISTS, ROMAN CATHOLICS AND ORTHODOX ARE FAILING MISERABLY IN FULFILLING THE SCRIPTURAL AND MORAL DUTY TO OPPOSE ISLAM. And, its too bad that many Christians have to simply point out the flaws of others and neglect the beam in their own eye. ‘UNLESS WE REPENT WE WILL LIKEWISE PERISH.”

        • Steve Smith

          billobillo, Walid has a new post up on the Church Fathers, read it you need more in formation about Orthodox to come to that conclusion. That is misinformed on your part. The fathers teach that he will be an apostate Jew, a who goes over to islam. you have not talked to many Orthodox .

          • billobillo54

            Thanks you Bro. Will do. God bless you and thank you for sharing your faith.

          • Steve Smith

            You are welcome, and thanks for having a cool head brother. and God bless all in your house.

    • shoebat

      Good point billobillo. Actually people who read all my works
      don’t really get the secret. Here, I will finally tell it; I am NOT interested
      in what people call Prophecy. In fact, if you look at the most of my work, its
      actually anti-Prophecy mania. My goal is to crush these Prophecy fanatics in
      their own arguments. It is wrong to say that “The Bible has
      prophecies” the Bible, all the Bible is prophecy. To me Prophecy is the
      Bible and the Bible is all Prophecy. I do not teach Bible Prophecy. What I
      teach is Bible Period. People who focus so much on Prophecy are in many ways in error. The Bible is about Christ defeating the Devil.

      Thats it.

      Every day I wake up I look for ways to combat evil.

      The Bible Prophecy crowd is mostly this “when do I pack”.

      Christ came to destroy the works of the devil. Anything else
      doesn’t matter to me. 

Now, the Catholics are right. They do not focus on
      Prophecy mania. They wait, wait, and wait and wait and then wait even a little
      more.

      The Pope said … well I am trying to find what the Pope said on
      Google by plugging “Pope” “Antichrist” “is near” to find his statement on Prophecy, but what I found is over 1 million hits mostly exposing the Pope as Antichrist. It drives me crazy that the crazies invaded the internet.

      This in itself shows the Prophecy Mania. Prophecy is to be
      handled by so few and to be read by so many. The Bible itself in 4000 years had
      about 400 pages written. That is an average of a page every decade. Just think
      about this; why should so much be said about predicting the future?

      The Pope did finally say something and what he said makes
      absolute good sense:

Vatican City, Nov 28, 2013 / 10:34 am (CNA/EWTN News).-

      In his daily homily Pope Francis reflected on the end times, saying that faith
      will be increasingly pushed out of the public square and that persecution of
      Christians is a “prophecy” of what is to come.

The Pope directed his comments
      to those gathered in the chapel of the Vatican’s Saint Martha guesthouse for
      his daily Mass on Nov. 28.

Reflecting on the day’s reading taken from the
      Gospel of Luke, in which Jesus speaks of the trials and tribulations that will
      precede the end times, the pontiff explained that when the Lord refers to this
      in another passage, “he tells us that it will be a desecration of the
      temple.”

It will be “a profanation of the faith, of the people,” he continued,
      and “it will be an abomination, it will be desolation and abomination.”

“What
      does this mean?” the Pope asked the Mass attendees, responding, “It will be
      like the triumph of the prince of this world: the defeat of God.”

“It seems at
      that final moment of calamity, it seems like he will take over this world, he
      will master of the world,” the pontiff observed, adding that in that time we
      will become aware this apparent victory over God would be more devastating than a great natural disaster.

These worldly powers which seek to destroy God,
      noted the Pope, also manifest in the contemporary desire to keep religion as “a
      private thing,” alluding to the fact that today many religious symbols have
      become taboo.

“You must obey the orders which come from worldly powers. You can do many things, beautiful things, but not adore God. Worship is prohibited.

      This is at the center of the end of time.”

Once we “reach the fullness of this
      pagan attitude,” the Pope continued, “then yes, he will come…’ truly the Son of
      Man will come in a cloud with great power and glory.’”

Christians who “suffer
      times of persecution, times of prohibition of worship” because of their
      beliefs, are a prophecy of what will happen to us all,” he emphasized.

 Speaking of the prophet Daniel in the first reading who was thrown into the lion’s den because he refused to denounce his faith, Pope Francis encouraged those in attendance not to be afraid, saying that God “only asks of us faithfulness and patience.”

“Fidelity like Daniel, who was faithful to his God and adored God until the end. And patience, because the hairs of our heads will not fall out. The Lord has promised this.”

Urging those present at the Mass to continue reflecting throughout the week on this “general apostasy” which “is called the prohibition of worship,” the Pope challenged them to ask themselves “Do I worship the Lord?”

“Do I adore Jesus Christ, the Lord? Or, a little half and half, do I in some way play game of the prince of this world?”

“Worship until the end,” the Pope concluded, “with confidence and fidelity: this is the grace we must ask for this week.”

      So, maybe in 10 years he will perhaps say “don’t take the mark of the beast …” Catholics wait on authority, while most of the Bible Prophecy mania crowd become authority.

      Catholics are used to Marking the Forehead but Evangelicals aren’t which is concerning to me. Would this issue be a dividing line?

      • billobillo54

        I give Pope Francis credit for his insight and willingness to reiterate some clear teaching of Scripture regarding the Prophetic Word and the time we live in, tying all of it to our faithfulness to Christ. All that he stated I can and do hear in my Protestant church. Still, being Protestant, I can’t help but to think for myself (since it is me and not the Church that will stand before Jesus). I believe that we must actively and politically stand against Islam and atheistic secularism. We must recognize and act aggressively the extreme spiritual evil of both and especially the antichrist nature of Islam. ANYTHING LESS IS DEFICIENT. Otherwise, we may end up like the Middle East and North Africa being dominated by Islam. If a murdering, torturing, rapist was trying to enter your house to perpetrate his evil, would you not kill him IN THE NAME OF GOD? I WOULD!
        As far as the marking of the forehead, I believe I am already marked. Paul in Ephesians Chapter 1 states: “And you (Gentiles) after hearing the Gospel of Truth (hearing ONE TIME-PERFECT GREEK TENSE) and having believed (believing ONE TIME IN THE PAST-PERFECT GREEK TENSE) were SEALED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT OF PROMISE UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION.” As the song says: “The hour I first believed.”
        As far as Ash Wednesday, icons, pictures, symbols, songs, flags, rosary beads, etc., not only do I have no problem with them I think that as long as they are grounded in the Truth of the Gospel they are GREAT. I wear a Cross around my neck outside of my shirt to confront myself and others with the Cross of Jesus. I also wear it as a political statement, and I can only hope to be as faithful as my wonderful Puritan forefathers like John Winthrop, Cotton Mather, Jonathan Edwards, Roger Williams and George Whitfield were. The Puritans, to their credit, were political.

      • Tom_mcewen

        While prophecy is fun, I have the normal, (I think) lack of trust in protestant prophecy for two reasons, judging by youtube, it never comes true and second more important as a Catholic under authority, when the Apostles said when shall these things be? Christ’s basic answer was It is none of your business. The Father knows. It is none of my business, God can tell the Church and the Church can tell me, for the Church is true.

  • jimdiverman

    Walid,

    May God bless you and your family and all who come upon your wisdom. I always enjoy reading your articles and look forward to the next.

    As a traditional Roman Catholic, I see the danger that has been created in the world by the concept of ecumenism. But it’s not all Kumbaya and you can’t “coexist” with people who hate you and want to kill you. Hopefully we are seeing a grassroots aversion to the novus ordo, and a return to our roots in sacred traditions is springing up in the FSSP and the Institute of Christ the King across America. May the USCCB take note! New isn’t always better. But the damage is done…

    Best regards,

    Jim

    • shoebat

      Well Jim, at least I see you standing strong and unwavering. Blessings to you and yours.

  • This Little Piggy

    Only someone seeking God would ask someone to pray for their sins to be forgiven. The wise person would say, “Sure I’ll pray for you to be forgiven. Let’s pray together. I’ll teach you to talk with God. We get to God through Jesus, God’s perfect Son that took your punishment when He died for you on the Cross, as a free gift. Pick up His gift, walk & talk with God. Follow Jesus, read, learn & do His Word.” I believe those asking for someone to pray for them are too afraid of God, are ashamed & feel unworthy of God’s love. Just pray for them, with them, they are seeking God.

  • Molon Labe

    Walid, i enjoy your long-winded yet memorable yarns. I’ve learned a lot from you and this site, and consider you a blessing. The Christians who believe that Gog is Russia and that the Beast represents Rome should read Daniel 11 and ask themselves, “Who troubles the Antichrist from the north if the Antichrist controls Europe and if Russia is destroyed?” As it pertains to the mark of the beast, we should remember that God doesnt riddle us in mysteries or secrets. Whatever John wrote down likely will be the Literal Mark. There never was any reason to interject gematria into the Word.

  • shoebat

    No, the Caliphate is an attempt to make an OLD world order. I never ever said it encompasses the whole world. Nice try.

    • Marco Vincent

      Yep, I already knew that because I watched your youtube videos, I’m just correcting you here before someone with ruder attitude make a flame war and wasting your precious time.
      GOD bless you, Mr. Walid. And keep up the good work.

      • shoebat

        Lord bless you too Marco.

  • momprayn

    Well, for this Protestant/Evangelical, it all makes sense to me. Thanks! Think it will become clearer and “simpler” as time/events “evolve” (pardon the expression). Many will have to face their beliefs and facts. Amen to not isolating scriptures! I was raised to not do that very strongly. As they are inspired of God, all should agree on a subject when you study all in context, time, original language, etc. I always pray for unity as Jesus did, love for the brethren/souls and that all false doctrines, threats to salvation, harmful to the cause of Christ be corrected.
    Re prayer:
    I’m aware of verses about praying for others also and these:

    “Let us ..come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in the time of need.” Heb.4:6
    “.. whatever things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive” Matt. 21:22
    “..whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.” John 14:13
    “..We have such a High Priest, Who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens…” Heb. 8:1:1

    So my belief is it’s good to ask others to pray for you also – as long as they are praying to the Father in Jesus name only, recognizing He is our one and only high priest and intercessor – which He died to achieve for us.
    Re retaining, forgiveness of sins (authority given to man) and the papacy, etc.:
    When Jesus told Peter he would be given the keys of the kingdom (binding, loosing) – according to a Hebrew Greek study Bible, my understanding, in order to agree with all other scriptures on this topic:

    “A more accurate translation of Matt. 16:19 from the Greek is, “And I will give thee the keys of the kingdom of the heavens. And whatever thou shalt bind on the earth shall be as having been bound in the heavens; and whatever thou shalt loose on the earth shall be as having been loosed in the heavens.” A distinction must be made between the “church” (v. 18) and the kingdom of the heavens (v. 19). The church is representative of the body of believers here on earth while the kingdom of the heavens is made up of both the earthy and heavenly realms. The teaching here is that those things which are conclusively decided by God in the kingdom of heaven, having been so decided upon, are emulated by the church on earth. The church is made up of believers who acknowledge the deity of Christ as Peter (name meaning “rock”) did. Christ is the one and only “Rock” upon which the church is built (1 Cor. 3:11) – which is Peter’s confession that came from the Father to him that He was the Son of God.
    There is no reference made here to the binding or loosing of persons. One can note that this speaks exclusively of things because of the neuter gender of the indefinite pronouns ho, “whatever”, in v. 19, and hosa, “whatever” in Matt. 18:18. Believers can only confirm those decisions which have already been made by God Himself as conclusive in the general context of His kingdom both on earth and in heaven. The two verbs, dedemenon (from deo) and lelumenon ..are both perfect passive participles which should have been translated respectively as “having been bound” and “having been loosed” already in the heavens.” These decisions, if truly from God, will agree with all of the Holy Scriptures.

    As to John 20:23 :
    No interpretation is to be placed upon a difficult and obscure passage (such as this one) that would place it in direct conflict with numerous other clear texts. The fact is, though all Christians are to forgive one another, i.e., have a forgiving disposition (Eph. 4:32), ultimately, only God can bestow absolute pardon (cf. Psa. 130:4; Isa. 43:25; Dan. 9:9; Mic. 7:18; Acts 8:22). The Lord did not grant that right to the apostles or anyone else.
    There is a biblical idiom whereby one sometimes is said to actually do what he is merely authorized to declare. Note:

    Pharaoh’s butler said regarding Joseph, “. . . me he [Joseph] restored unto mine office, and him [the baker] he hanged” (Gen. 41:13). Joseph did not actually restore the butler to his office, nor did he personally hang the baker. He merely announced, by prophetic insight, what the fate of these men would be.
    Did God appoint Jeremiah to actually destroy and overthrow kingdoms (Jer. 1:10), or merely to declare their destiny? See also Ezekiel 43:3.
    The Greek tenses of John 20:23 make it clear that the apostles were authorized only to announce the terms of forgiveness, and that upon the basis of God’s previous appointment. Literally, the text suggests: “Those whose sins you forgive, have already been forgiven; those whose sins you do not forgive, have not already been forgiven.” The first verbs in the two clauses are aorist tense forms, while the second verbs are in the perfect tense. The perfect tense verbs imply an abiding state which commenced before the action of the aorists. In other words, the apostles (and others since that time) were only authorized todeclare forgiveness consistent with what the Lord had already determined. In a comprehensive treatment of this passage, noted Greek scholar J.R. Mantey pointed out that the Greek “fathers” never quoted this passage in support of the concept of absolution (see Journal of Biblical Literature, 58, 1939, pp. 243-249). For further comment, see: Boyce Blackwelder, Light from the Greek New Testament, Anderson, In: Warner, 1958, pp. 80-81.
    Finally, this conclusion is confirmed by the fact that the apostles, on the day of Pentecost, in harmony with the Spirit’s guidance, did not personally forgive the sins of anyone; rather, they merely announced the conditions of pardon to which men and women were amenable. To believers who sincerely inquired: “. . . what shall we do?”, Peter responded, “Repent ye, and be immersed every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins. . . ” (Acts 2:37-38). Subsequently the reader is informed that: “They then that received his word were immersed. . . ” (41). Hence, we conclude, upon the basis of this testimony, that by means of that word, they received the forgiveness of their sins.

    https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/763-can-man-forgive-sins

  • H2o2Bill

    I’m not sure I understand the question being asked that much of the discussion is taking place concerning the confession of sin. Perhaps defining what exactly we are talking about might help. If I go to Walid’s house and see a twenty dollar bill on the table and I really needed the money and decided at the time it would be OK for me to slip it into my pocket. Only later to realize I had lost my mind and sinned. Is it enough for me to confess my sin to God and find a way to give the twenty dollars back to Walid? Under his door or drop it on his floor or something like that? And confess the sin to God? Of course not I have to fess up to Walid and say hey I sinned against you will you forgive me and confess my sin to God? Am I to believe I could bypass my confession to Walid by going to another man and say hey I stole twenty dollars from Walid I want to repent I already confessed to God and your the man I want to confess to? Say what? I don’t see this in Scripture. Confessing our sins to one another puts a spotlight on sin and sin hates that. It also gives accountability to the sinner and a sense of not being alone. It seems the Devil likes to isolate or give the sinner a sense of isolation a sense of being alone when it comes to personal battles with sin. Confessing our sins to a fellow believer is a sure cure for this and is taught in the Scriptures. I have always been taught a sin done in secret can be confessed in secret providing it has not involved another person. A sin done in public needs a more public confession (involves other people). We see no confessional in the New Testament what so ever. I can’t help but reading some of this discussion and wanting to post the entire book of Hebrews and say what about this and what about that?

    Then it seems the discussion is mixed up between confessing sins and confessing that one is a sinner in the calling on the name of the Lord in salvation. If I remember right Walid says he was alone when he called on the name of the Lord. A person need not confess sins to any man in calling on the name of the Lord in becoming born again no man need be present. John 3:5 is not teaching baptism either so says John 3:6 the water is talking about your earthly birth as when a woman’s water breaks before child birth. Point being no persons need be with you to call on the name of the Lord in becoming born again. The Lord Jesus Christ is our permanent High Priest.

    I realized something last night through a discussion that Rome is part of Mystery Babylon but not as taught and believed by so many. No they are part of it due to being involved in the harlotry of Babylon. I was reading through Walid’s paper about Babylon being Saudi Arabia according to Scripture and in that paper he sites things that were first seen in Islam then passed to the RCC and this how I drew my conclusion. It had been right under my nose the entire time. I could go further with this idea by talking about the pine cone ext ext……

  • Shaun D.

    The mark of the antchrist and the “seal” on the 144,000 JEWS of the twelve tribes of Israel are two different things.

    The mark of the antichrist is voluntary, if you don’t want it. .. don’t take it. You WILL be killed. but sorry…. that doesn’t mean you are going to heaven. btw salvation us NOT offered in the seven year tribulation period.

    The seal is given by God to the “elect” (144,000 JEWS of the 12 tribes of Israel), NOT to any gentile “believer”.

    Left behind???? To bad so sad, there is no hope for you. It’s a time of WRATH (both Gods and Satans) upon ALL mankind.

    READ Revelation.

    • shoebat

      Your views are appreciated Shaun, but do you have any comments or refutations or agreements on specific things we wrote?

  • Shaun D.

    Sin: Anything God calls sin is indeed sin (homosexuality, adultery, fornication, lying, murder, hate, lust, coveting, idolatry, stealing, blasphemy, drunkenness, gluttony, pride, arrogance,, slander etc etc)

  • billobillo54

    If you read Walid Shoebat’s words he is very critical, especially of Protestants for the following:’

    1. Failing to identify Islam as closely and directly associated with the antichrist. According to Walid Shoebat, failure to identify the antichrist as associated with and closely aligned with Islam is a fatal error.

    2. Being pacifist and inactive towards opposing Islam politically, socially and even militarily.

    Being a Protestant who loves the Evangelical Church and Evangelicals in general, I accept the criticism of Protestants for our failure in regards to the two points above.

    My point is that Catholics and Orthodox are even more negligent in regard to the two points above and ALSO NEED TO REPENT.

    Since this quote from you response applies to Walid Shoebat: “Yes, clearly Protestants are more interest in end times prophecy. Possibly too much…” I guess it’s hard for you being a Catholic admitting that the Catholic Church is deficient in any way.

  • Marianne

    The truth is the truth and there is no disputing it. I believe that Walid continually speaks the truth… so there is no dispute here!

  • shoebat

    Write whatever the watchman sees, from the top of the tower.

  • shoebat

    sin is what is opposite than holy.

  • shoebat

    Well, hope you will find the answer Nonie to your final journey 😉

  • shoebat

    Beware Chris, not everyone will accept your message. The path is filled with thorns.

  • shoebat

    Amen teresa.

  • shoebat

    Anthony, perhaps you can read what I wrote billobillo above. It reflects your concerns.

  • shoebat

    ” My personal belief is we will be there in the end times when the whole world is using a one world currency.” No where in Scripture does it talk about currency.

  • shoebat

    See Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho, Chapter 90

  • Fr Christopher P. Kelley, DD

    al-Lah, “the god,” was the principal deity worshiped in pagan Mecca, before Muh’d. He had three daughters (stars?). He was the Moon god. (In no other culture is the moon seen as masculine. Leave it to the wild desert folk to miss the connection with women!) I would suppose that the crescent moon was his symbol even in pagan, pre-Muh’d days.
    St Paul writes of “the god of this world” — saying things that clearly tip us to understand ha-satan. (2Cor.4:4) But he blinds the minds of the un-believers (in the Deity of JESUS). That clearly identifies mohammedans.

    I note that the phase of the crescent is the very last of its waning. It only appears shortly before dawn, leaving no moon in the sky by night. Why is this the chosen symbol of islam? Other cultures count it as the weakest phase. Biblical culture, canonized by Moses, celebrates the New Moon — as it begins to grow; it is the “most interesting” phase. Then the Full Moon marks Passover and Tabernacles, nights of deliverance and rejoicing. The dark of the moon is when Muh’d fled from Mecca: A man of darkness, whose deeds were evil. He avoided the light.

    King John Sobieski of Poland, on Sept. 12, 1683, defeated the Turks at Vienna. The pastry known as a croissant became very popular then — formed as the “turkish crescent” and gobbled by hungry Viennese! — another way to “get back at” the Turks!
    Enjoy a croissant — and REMEMBER!

    • shoebat

      Fr. Kelly, there you are, always adding what is missing, the historic links. Perhaps you might help, I asked a question which no one wants to answer. Can you than interpret this verse:

      “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”

      • Fr Christopher P. Kelley, DD

        First, St John is writing of the Eighth Day – the Day *After* the Sabbath, which St Paul refers to as “the New Creation.” A new Cycle has begun with the Resurrection. Compare St John 20:22 with Genesis 2:7: GOD BREATHES HIS OWN BREATH (ha-Ruach, the Spirit) into the first man. Now, on Sun. April 5, 33AD, GOD BREATHES HIS OWN BREATH into His Apostles, New Men. But they must “receive” this Holy Gift. That takes willingness, obedience, awe, reverence. CHRIST is creating something NEW. They accept, even if they do not fully comprehend what has just taken place.
        [On Easter Day, He gives Authority; on Pentecost, the 8th Sunday of Easter, He gives Power. Both are necessary. But this is God’s Timing, always perfect.]
        These 10 (in the absence of Thomas, though he doesn’t really miss out) are the “minyan” – the minimum number of Jewish men required for a Synagogue service. {Jesus is Constituting the Apostles’ Company, not confined to that generation, but now founded to last through the ages. This is implicit in the very word He uses; but that is beside our point here; but it is why the Church speaks of this as “apostolic succession,” a not wholly adequate term.}
        The expression JESUS uses is a fairly common Rabbinical formula, parallel to that seen in Matt. 16, to St Peter, but note the difference. In Matt. 16, :binding & loosing: are Rabbinical terms for “forbidding” & “permitting” — ruling! Giving the Keys inaugurates the Majordomo. (See Isaiah 22:22; 2Kings 18:18.)
        He, Peter (& his successors), will have authority over the royal household. [Let the Protestant understand! *{( ;-D) ]
        Authority is also conferred by JESUS, breathing the Holy Spirit to inaugurate the Church in His Apostles, who will have the “key” role. [Remember: “He who receives you receives Me.” Jesus’ Breath is in the Apostles!]
        THEIR OWN Fellowship is what St Luke refers to in Acts 2:42. St Luke is not making a vague reference to potluck suppers! Fellowship WITH the Apostles (who are in fellowship with each other) guards the Church against schism, a serious sin, just as keeping the Apostles’ Doctrine guards against heresy. (“Apostles’ ” defines both Doctrine AND Fellowship.)
        Because of human sin, the proclivity to heresy & schism needs a measure of Apostolic Authority, because JESUS intends that His Church be VISIBLY ONE, to convince the worst of skeptics that HE IS the Messiah (& Dying/ Rising Savior). This Authority is not tyrannical in its essence; only a rebel would see it so. (The potential for abuse is recognized, & the Church seeks diligently to curtail such abuses when they arise.)
        By virtue of His Sacrificial Death {fusing the Passover Lamb & the Yom Kippur Goat), He demonstrates His Saving Power. As St John Baptist sees prophetically, He is “The Lamb of God Who takes away the sin of the world.” [Passover was not seen in terms of sin, but of slavery, before this. Now sin can be seen as slavery.]
        So NOW He grants His power to be Exercised by these Apostles whom He had chosen. He voluntarily chooses to work THROUGH them, even though they remain mortal men, subject to human foibles. HOW GREAT is the Condescension of God, to bestow so great a Benefit!! A stupendous Marvel!! His work in them does not require perfection in them, because HE is Perfect. (It is better when they are holy & pure, but in His grace & mercy, He deals with us in realistic terms, yearning for us to “get it completely.”)
        [Cardinal Suenens used to say, “We force God to be patient!” — not willfully, so much, as by our weaknesses; He loves us anyway, but the Day hastens!]
        The Authority to Forgive, granted to the first Apostles, presumes that they know what they are doing; it presumes that individuals have voiced their sins, as I wrote sometime above. That is to say, individuals have confessed their sins, aloud, in the hearing of an Apostle. Then God’s forgiveness is voiced by the Apostle, With Authority. Or, if the Confessing one is Not Penitent, the Apostle may withhold forgiveness, or “retain” the sin.
        In the early Church, Confession was done much as in an AA Meeting. The confession was made “in the assembly.” The Bishop (Apostle) presided, and pronounced authoritatively the Penance assigned, but governed the flock, not permitting the penance to be out of line with received, earlier practice; so there was a measure of consistency. The penance was in no way a “repayment” to God, but a token of sincerity. None but Christ could “pay the price” of sin.
        When hordes began attending the Church in the 4th Century, however, the discipline of a persecuted Church was difficult to maintain. For a time, the practice suffered neglect, for fear of exposure by insincere folk.
        It was the Irish monasteries, the Powerhouse of Evangelical Witness and of Mission to convert Europe, that the practice we know today, of penitents privately making a confession to a priest or bishop, emerged. This proved of great value as a means of instructing the Europeans in Christian morality, when whole tribes were baptized at the time of a chieftain’s conversion. (It was the way barbarian tribes worked.) This was how Private Confession then became the standard practice. Over time, the good Counsel provided to repentant sinners in Confession changed the culture more and more toward Christ, until the height of European civilization, prior to the “Renaissance.” Then humanistic pride intervened again, and the Protestant revolt asserted Individualism as the dominant philosophical agenda.
        Taking the Scriptures for what they actually say, Sacramental Confession is Christ’s Own First Gift to His Church on that first Easter Day. It is how we become part of His New Creation, being re-made by Him, opening ourselves to the in-breathing of His Spirit.
        It is as much a “Sacrament of the Gospel” as Baptism (which was preceded by confession, in the case of adults), and the Mass, Christ’s refashioning of the elaborate Passover Seder rituals, in light of His Own Passover, by the Cross, the Tomb, and the Resurrection, and the Gift of the Holy Spirit (the new Sinai experience).
        If people “got it” that what had been “restricted to God alone” was now “given among men”, they would RACE to the Confessional for the abundant Grace poured out by God upon us in that way!
        Take a look at what ministry of the Holy Ghost the Cure d’Ars, St John Vianney, had in 19th C. France! The French Railway had to build a big new station there, in a tiny little hamlet, to accommodate the multitudes who came to make their confessions! People Experienced GOD ALMIGHTY through this Sacrament, ministered by a man of Grace and Fervor.
        May the Lord grant us more such men! Souls were set free! The Gospel was preached and lived with power! satan trembled!
        Confession is not to be feared. It is a divine Gift to be embraced, for love of our Savior. Using it faithfully honors Him, Who gave His Life to provide it to us.

        I hope this is a satisfactory interpretation for you, Walid!
        Glad to expand on any part, if need be.

      • Michael Bennett

        As you know, the coming of the Holy Spirit was still future when Jesus spoke these verses to His Apostles in John 20, and were fulfilled 40 days later at Pentecost. The expressions ‘they are forgiven’ and ‘it is withheld’ are in the perfect-tense and can also be translated ‘they have been forgiven’ and ‘it has been withheld’, since the perfect-tense gives the sense of completed past action with continuing results in the present.

        It is not that individual Christians or churches have authority on their own to forgive or not forgive people but rather that, as the church proclaims the gospel message of forgiveness of sins in the power of the Holy Spirit (v22), it proclaims that those who believe in Jesus have their sins forgiven, and those who do not believe in Him do not have their sins forgiven – which simply reflects what God has already done. Their sins were forgiven in the past, they were still forgiven, and it is God alone who did the forgiving.

      • Tom_mcewen

        To me it is as plain as John 6, it says what it says, if you were talking to Christ and he replied so, I would understand him, for the words are plain

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  • Kathleen Immaculata Militia

    The following statement ” He shared with me that when he went to confession, his priest told him directly that there was nothing he could do anymore and that he was going to hell.”
    I know for a fact a priest would never say that

  • Randy Ellis

    Thank you, Walid! I am seeking to truly understand what is yet to come from a Biblical perspective. I am in the process of reading your book “God’s War on Terror…” and my eyes have been opened to so much. Never before have I equated Islamism to being the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy concerning all things pertaining to the Antichrist. Most of all, I am so happy that one such as you was called out by God from such dark worldly existence into the light of the kingdom of God, to know the truth and to glorify God in such a mighty way! Blessings to you!

  • shoebat

    Carey, no one is speaking of tattoos. Historically Christians in battle did put the sign of the cross on the forehead, arm, chest etc.. what we are saying is that we should be open to what God wants us to do, that is, when the battle begins, not now 😉

    • I didn’t specifically mean tattoos, but marks on the forehead, in general (like Indian/Hindi bindis.)
      You don’t think the battle has begun? Even if we don’t think so…the Bible states that “no man can know the hour”. We’re supposed to be prepared at all times, which is why I wanted to know!
      Thank you for the response! I guess I will just continue to search and pray for the answer and discernment.
      Love the articles…keep up the good work! Many Blessings!

  • 1PierreMontagne1

    When today’s typical “so called Christians” of limited…if any biblical literacy read your article Walid – they do iether of two things – scoff or are arrested with extreme discomfort .
    It crosses (as you point out) their laziness comfort zone.
    Too many evangelicals are more intersted in appeasing Chrislam, GBLT and silencing criticism of Abortion least any violate the new age “Doctrine of hurt feelings”
    This is a timely well researched and well constructed article which in so many ways torpedoes the favored postures of the lazy bride’s maids. (Matthew 25)

    Amen Amen Amen

  • Hi Diane. Yes, actually, I did pray then and there with my friend. We were at a restaurant where he had asked me to meet him. I shared with my friend exactly that; how God is faithful and just to forgive us of our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. That the sin my friend had committed could be forgiven by God and to trust in God’s Promise of Forgiveness. We prayed together there at the table and that was the last I saw of him, then was told of the tragedy of him dying. I don’t know the circumstances that followed after our meeting, but, we prayed together that morning. Only God knows.
    Diane, thank you very much for your testimony. I have no doubt that God performed that miracle in your son and touched you with His Grace of Love and forgiveness. Faith in God is key. Your story is very similar to what happened in my family years ago. When my parents were first married, their first-born son (my oldest brother) was extremely sick with an high fever as an infant. They lived in a poor rural community in Wyoming and mom was crying because she felt that her infant son would soon die. My father was out with some of his friends into the late evening and mom and mom wrapped the baby close to her and fell asleep. Mom told us that she had a dream that Jesus came into the house and in her dream Jesus asked her if she believed He could heal her son. Mom said, yes. Then, again in her dream, she saw Jesus ascend back out of their house. When she awoke, the baby’s fever had broken and he looked spry as could be. Then, my dad came home from his late-night get together and asked mom how the baby was doing. Mom explained what happened in her dream, how she saw Jesus and that Jesus healed their son. My dad was changed from that point on as he turned his life over to God and in his amazement he said, “Jesus, you can heal too?” That was the start of dad’s ministry as an Evangelical Minister and he started the first Spanish-speaking church in the Wyoming community. The old church has been replaced with a new one but the congregation there dates back to the time of when dad founded their church. God is Good and very Merciful. Amen.

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  • Julie LaBrecque

    If this is the same person you told me about in another thread, this was not his first or second occasion for the same sin. At some point, the priest has to recognize that the person in the confessional is not truly penitent and not worth of absolution. As Paul said,” deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the Day of the Lord Jesus” 1 Cor 5:1-2.

  • Julie LaBrecque

    Incorrect. Jesus gave them the power to forgive and NOT forgive. The story of Ananias and Sapphira proved that what was bound on earth was bound in heaven. Peter condemned them, heaven agreed and killed them at his feet.

  • Karen Honick Ortwein

    I have sent this out to everyone I know. Some are not born again. Some are “denomination” people. Some too busy to care. But, some may hear. God’s Word penetrates and lodges in the open heart to then be acted on. I hope for some responses.

  • Tom_mcewen

    I don’t believe you, that a Priest would say a thing so against his training and all the Church teaches. I call you Ananias.

    • Well now, Tom, if you personally cannot see and understand that there are some priests who actually CAN say and do deviant things “against his training and all the Church teaches” then I would say that you are in denial. I would call you a doubting Thomas! 🙂

      • Tom_mcewen

        What you claim is Charlie Romeo Alfa Papa

        • Tom,
          Get yourself together and reflect on this:
          “All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” – Arthur Schopenhauer
          You are in denial right now, Tom. Some day you will realize that it has been very self-evident for quite some time that there are many priests who have said things and done deviant things “against his training and all the Church teaches” and most important, violated and broken his vows to God. If you cannot acknowledge that there have been problems in the priesthood such as, pedophile priests, bishops transferring them to other parishes where the deviance has continued until finally caught, alcoholic priests, priests and nuns involved in embezzlement of funds, etc., and loads of lawsuits against the RCC due to improprieties by its clergy, then, again, I state that you are in denial of the Truth!
          The accounts that I have stated are true. Your attempt to claim they are not are futile.

          By the way, here’s another quote by a former Muslim:
          “The Truth is Not Hard To Find; The Truth is Hard to Accept.”
          – Abdu H. Murray
          (a former Shia Muslim and convert from faith in Allah to faith in Christ.)

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  • shoebat

    Interesting comment. So what made you leave your first church you loved?

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  • Steven Sewell

    Question in my mind Walid is whether the USA is part of that great coalition that forms to defeat the antichrist and his armies, or it is destroyed some time beforehand given it’s immorality, it’s absence of mention in prophecy (scant at best), and the great sign of Revelation 12 in the heavens appearing Sept 23, 2017, which culminates in the west being subject to great destruction from God and from the heavens.

  • Infinity2015

    Hey brother Walid. I know this is a few years old but is it still active today? Is Islam truly the mark of the Beast?

    Muslims are getting out of hand in the West? Totally catastrophic!
    I think Trump was definitely chosen by GOD to bring change in America and to close the borders to refugees from the middle east.

  • “honestly you guys need to keep off the drugs!”

    And you stay off that Quran. It too is a drug.

  • Nvd

    MANY will take the cross on their forehead or right hand. Bless you.