Jonathan Cahn Is A False Prophet

By Walid Shoebat

false-prophetsOne claiming to be prophet, whom I encountered once when I spoke at his Messianic synagogue, is Jonathan Cahn who claims that:

“the Mystery of the Shemitah and it’s so big that it affects everything we as a people are personally doing and will affect the rise and fall of the United States of America …”

From two decades of encountering every claiming “prophet” from the Charismatic and Messianic Movements has been a false prophet. I say this without apology. Not once did I ever encounter one of these, that after a brief review, it always turns out they can easily be proven dead false.

Cahn, like many others who I can write books about, is telling us that because America has not been obedient, that on September 13, 2015 is the 7th and last Shemitah (Sabbath year) in this cycle which will be a year of judgment and reckoning with God Who “might” cause an economic collapse in the U.S.

The premise of this false-prophecy is extracted by twisting biblical text saying that God uses Sabbath years  when He judged the U.S. in the past. All this as it turns out is false as we will explain.

The Shemitah (Hebrew for Sabbath year) was when ancient Israel planted and harvested crops, God would remove them from the land one year for every year they did not obey the Sabbath rest (Lev. 26:35). And He would punish them seven times more than that for the other sins they committed during the Sabbath year (Shemitah) cycle over and above not letting the land rest (Lev. 26:28).

 

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Mind you, the ancient declaration to Israel is regarding crops in ancient Israel prior to the coming of the Messiah. What these false prophets ignore is that when Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath (Lk. 6:5) made such rules become obsolete (also see Acts 20:7, which Messianic movements seem to ignore) and in one verse debunks the use of these “Sabbaths”:

So don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths. (Colossians 2:16-17)

God did away with “sabbaths” “ceremonies” “new moons” … period. No where does He say that we calculate anything, from Jesus’s second coming to timing when the tribulation comes based on such calculations. You can eat a pepperoni pizza on a Sabbath, even guzzle a beer to wash it down, so long you do not get drunk.

The current seven-year cycle will end on Sept. 13, 2015 the day before Rosh Hashanah. Jonathan Cahn claims to be getting calls from financial analysts that are watching this and says that the state of Israel is funding a study of it. While there is no such evidence that Israel tuned into this loony-bin, the fools and the lazy are getting duped. Cahn-artist, as ‘proof’ of his claims says that in 2001, that date fell just six days after 9/11, on September 17th when the US stock markets had one of its biggest drops in history, falling 7% and in 2008, the final day of Shemitah was September 29, 2008, the infamous third largest stock market collapse in US history, falling 9%, or 777 points, so he claims.

Had Cahn-artist truly been a “prophet” why did he not warn America during those years before I met him at his humble little Messianic synagogue? He only writes this after the fact. Not only the modern Hebrew calendar is way off, according to the Jewish Encyclopedia, the actual Shemitah year is disputed (according to Cahn-artist, it began on September 25, 2014 and ends September 13, 2015 a few days from now) but none of these “seven year” curses came true within each “seven years”.

First of all, and as it turns out, the Hebrew Calendar is off, you can read the whole mess on how the Jewsih rabbis screwed up the Hebrew calendar (which Cahn-artist follows) and how the Christian calendar was right. The book Jewish History in Conflict written by Orthodox Jew named Mitchell First who revealed that the Jewish Sages purposely stated an incorrect chronology of Daniel 9 in order to prevent people from using the passage to accurately predict the time when the Messiah would come. To make a long story short, the Jews had the Messiah “cut off” (die) too early to explain that Jesus cannot be the one since (according to their calculations) He would have died around 63 A.D.

So if the modern Hebrew calendar is way off, (a key component of Cahn’s entire hodgepodge) then the whole Sabbath-year cycle is undermined and had the man been a true prophet, how could the Almighty err?

Now to see how inaccurate this Cahn-artist’s calculations are, remember, he claims that God’s Shemetah curses occurs every seven year intervals. Since World War 2, we’ve already had 11 recessions. If you go back another hundred years, (see link here) you’ll see such a pattern does not match.

But lets says that the Almighty only cursed us in the last decade or two (as Cahn-artist claims) those dates in red below show the bottom of each recession and see how far they are spaced apart?

 

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Recessions, as it turns out, are indeed a curse, but just like death (which no one can predict) and taxes (which the government tells you the deadline). Recessions, as we can see clearly above have an interval between 7 to 10 years. Now unless the god of Islam, Allah rules, since in Islam, there is what they term as a “Hudna,” peace-treaty, which is the false peace treaty Muslims offer non-Muslims, which can only last up to 10 years, then Allah’s Shemitah must have been on Cahn-artist’s mind since Allah decided to end it after the term (10 years) was up. If anything these indeed follow the devil in disguise. Demons can claim to be Yeshua and can find many followers.

Not once do any of these cycles look the same. All of the sudden the biblical Shemitah that was ordained by God for only ancient Israel as a blessing (which if true in our case in the U.S. should be an indicator for the bull markets) are now a key indicator for bear markets? This fallacy shows that what we are dealing with here is a false prophet and a huckster.

While the Bible in no way says that the Shemitah involves an economic decline, but simply a blessing, one asks: where are the cataclysmic events connected to a particular Shemitah cycle? This would seem that God is pleased with the way things are going, or that He is only stock-market centric.

Now I know I will get some certain nut-cases (who think that they love Christ) get angry at me for supposedly “condemning a brother”. However, this loon said that what he wrote were “revelations” from God:

“This is what came and the Lord did it—and He did it rapidly, as with The Harbinger—the revelations came rapidly and it went forth,” (see mark 13:00 from the video link)

These loons go as far back as a century claiming that:

1901-1902 Shmita Year – 46% U.S. Stock market value wiped out.
1916-1917 Shmita Year – 40% U.S. Stock market value wiped out. German, Austro-Hungarian, Russian and Ottoman Empires collapsed. Britain, the world’s greatest empire was almost bankrupt. The beginning of American to rise to world power. All during this one Shmita year.
1930-1931 Shmita Year – 86% U.S stock market value wiped out in the worst financial crisis in modern history.
1937-1938 Shmita Year – 50% U.S. Stock market value wiped out. Global recession.
1944-1945 Shmita Year – End of German Reich and Britain’s hold on territories. Establishment of America as the world’s super power.
1965-1966 Shmita Year – 23% stock market value wiped out.
1972-1973 Shmita Year – 48% U.S. Stock market value wiped out. Global recession. U.S. Voted to kill its unborn children (Abortion legalized). U.S. lost its first war – Vietnam…
1979-1980 Shmita Year – U.S. and global recession.
1986-1987 Shmita Year – 33% U.S. Stock market value wiped out.
1993-1994 Shmita Year – Bond market crash.
2000-2001 Shmita Year – 37% U.S. stock market value wiped out. 9/11 and Global recession.
2007-2008 Shmita Year – 50% U.S. Stock market value wiped out. Global recession.
2014-2015 Shmita Year – Same pattern but very severe judgment coming (See 7×7 Shmita Harbingers)

Always keep in mind that the Cahn-artist always isolates certain facts to project his desired Cahn-artistic results. Cahn-artist isolated everything, especially Scripture. If one reviews the above dates, one would think that the stock market fluctuations are indeed a seven-year cycle that produced economic cataclysms. Yet when they are viewed in the full proportionate context of the rises and falls, they are  relatively minor.

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We can find falls in 1901, 1904, 1915, 1918, 1920, 1929, 1937, 1941, and then a blessing (we must have been really good) until 1974 and 1977, and then we started to behave bad again in 2001 and 2007, and then the Almighty sent us Cahn-artist to deliver us from our evil ways.

I can make an argument, that why shouldn’t God judge us, especially that we have so many false prophets like Cahn roaming around?

God after all, will not only judge the carnal sins we do, but also the false prophets and all these heretics, whom millions of Americans follow. I do not need to quote Scripture for that. But as far as the “God told me crowd,” I don’t believe anything they say. I have been listening to these “God told me” crowds for two decades, without a single proof to anything they predict, so perhaps they should not blame me since I am better off examining The Apparitions at Fatima.

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  • Countryflowers

    Walid is a false person.

    • Stephen Dalton

      Put a sock in it dearie!

      • marlene

        Socks come in pairs – here’s one for you.

        • Julie LaBrecque

          So are you the protector of CountryFlowers, or just her alter-ego?

        • Stephen Dalton

          You can have my sock, you need it more than I do.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            You aren’t alone, she castigated Deus, Walid, Myself, Rudy…

          • marlene

            LOL – you can’t all be right!

          • She’s a sad joke. Not worth commenting on. Shoo fly, indeed, says the roach.

          • marlene

            I already answered your nonsense. You’re floundering in circles, chasing your feet. Run out of quips – or just out of sense?

          • Stephen Dalton

            You’re the one full of nonsense, floundering in circles and chasing your feet. I have plenty of sense, I stopped following false prophets like Kahn years ago.

    • Dave Knapp

      No…. I think he actually does exist—-but he’s a slave of Catholicism..,,it’s sad

      • Stephen Dalton

        And you’re a slave to Protestant Fundamentalism.

    • marlene

      No, hes’ not. He doesn’t prophecy – he describes the meaning and history of current events by putting them in perspective. However, i see that his denial of Kahn would irritate you, since most of Kahn’s prophecy are yet to come.

    • marlene

      LOL – apparently Dr. Shoebat still likes you anyway.

      • Countryflowers

        and i like him still

        • marlene

          lol – and I like you too, Countryflowers. I don’t expect a response.

  • Don’t mind her, she’s always up and down. I have been putting up with her for years. They slander on impulse and do not ever explain any details. This is why we have this clinic.

    • Charles Marsh

      Oh, okay. Sin sure has done a number on us all. But thank God, for He gave us new hearts filled with compassion through His Son Jesus Christ. I’ll pray for her. Thank you for posting your videos and articles! They have been an encouragement to me–to seek our Lord more, and to not forget our stinger missiles. I watched a video of John MacArthur doing a sermon about Islam, he didn’t go in to too much detail, but gave a neat take on it from scripture. And your unique clear vista view gives all the details. It’s amazing what the Lord is doing. Really exciting! It’s incredible how the Lord has saved you, how He has been using you to minister His people.

    • It’s a noble service, and it’s been good to witness people waking up through the efforts of this site.

    • Wayne Arch

      you seem to be deceived and following your own prophecy

  • Bràdley Ellis

    The other day I listened to a pastor remark about the huge focus given not only the Schmita, but also the blood moon teachings. His main point being that millions of Christians have gotten sucked into all this talk, but have not focused much on God’s Word. It woke me up to the Truth. That these teachers/prophets have made an exhorbitant amount of money while at the same time, confusing many, including myself. While this is interesting sideshow fodder, we all must keep our fixed on Jesus, the Author and Perfector of our faith. If it happens, so be it. But if it does not, then this is when, I believe, that people will begin saying, “Where is the promise of His coming?” More persecution to come.

    • Recovery isn’t easy Bradley. The question we always have to ask is how do I get it right? In other words, when we meet Jesus, would I want Him to show were I err’ed or should I try my best to find all my errors now. Jesus said that we will know them by their fruit. What are all these so-called ministries doing? Selling hype? This is not fruit. You must also look whether they are persecuted or they are just talking on TV.

      • Jennifer

        people are missing a huge point: repentance and turning from sin back to God

      • marlene

        We will all be judged by every word that comes out of our mouth.

        • Dave Knapp

          It’s a good thing nothing I type online is actually spoken then =^>

    • Trevor

      Don’t feel bad. I’m one of those you mentioned. Got educated on those.

      • marlene

        Yes, me too. During the first 7 days after being born again, every morning I would turn on the TV to TBN (yes, TBN at that time) and every problem I prayed to God about and every question I had asked Him in prayer the night before, was answered by the TV evangelist – that very next morning. Even more profound was that several preachers started off their sermon by saying “I wasn’t planning to preach on this subject, but God spoke to me and put it in my heart.” So, I too am one of those you and Bradley mentioned.

  • LJW

    “So don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths. (Colossians 2:16-17)”……. I believe the words (for not) were added by mistake. The actual verse reads below……
    Colossians 2:16-17 (KJV) 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

  • Trevor

    Thank you for this. After being sucked into “The Harbinger” mania and then getting educated on Cahn’s sophistry, I am trying to make sure I get better at spotting a con artist in sheep clothing.

    • You spent money on his books Trevor? With the $20 or so, you could have bought a pint of extra virgin olive oil or a few pounds of tomatoes. I guess I have to start nagging you about frugality 😉

      • Trevor

        No, sir. My father in law loaned me the book and read it in one day.

        • RodK1975

          Now, now, Trevor… “The rich rules over the poor, And the borrower becomes the lender’s slave.” LOL

          • Trevor

            Boy am I in debt!

          • RodK1975

            You gotta let him borrow a book or a rake or something so he has nothing on you… :-))

          • Trevor

            He and I have many deep conversations about theology, in addition to politics and football.

          • RodK1975

            Football… yuck

          • DeusLoVult

            What’s wrong with football? :O

          • RodK1975

            I loathe football… and basketball… and baseball is mediocre…

            If yall love football… God bless ya… enjoy!… but I hate it.. lol.

          • DeusLoVult

            lol I don’t really watch sports anymore, but…..what about hockey? 🙂

          • RodK1975

            I’m 40 years old and live in North Carolina, until we got the Hurricanes, I’d never even watched a hockey game… After we got the Hurricanes, I’ve watched one hockey game, it was ok, I could probably get into following it, but I’m probably too old to lol.

          • DeusLoVult

            lol My dad loves the Penguins….he was born near Pittsburgh. So, I kind of grew up with it. 🙂

          • Eric

            Never watched it.

          • DeusLoVult

            :0

            Watch this….NOW! 😛

          • Eric

            Wait. . .I rememeber watching a documentery on the Hockey Olympics or something back in the 70’s against the USSR or something.

          • DeusLoVult

            Doesn’t count. Watch this fight, and then read this. Hockey has some interesting history.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_on_Ice

          • Eric

            Very interesting. That clip looked like it turned into an MMA fight

          • DeusLoVult

            They made a movie by the same name (Miracle on Ice) I recommend a watch. Yeah, Probert is a famous enforcer. 🙂

          • Eric

            All right. 🙂

          • RodK1975

            1980… I think Wayne Gretzky was on the team, but can’t remember.

          • Eric

            All right. 🙂

          • RodK1975

            Wait a second… How did you watch a documentary back in the 70’s and you’re only 21 years old? Have you mastered time travel and failed to tell Trevor and me?

          • Eric

            I watched it on youtube, rod. lol. And I’m 22. 🙂

          • RodK1975

            Happy Belated Birthday LOL

          • Eric

            Thanks Rod. My Birthday was back in march. lol

          • Dave Knapp

            OH YES!!!!

          • Eric

            So do I rod. . .sports are my bane

          • RodK1975

            Mine too!

          • Eric

            Hehe. 😉

          • I completely agree.

          • Dave Knapp

            Slow….too damned slow… Like watching paint dry

          • DeusLoVult

            Try watching “NFL Follies”. Can’t remember whether it was released to vcr, or if it ran live back in the 90s….absolutely hilarious.

          • Trevor

            Sorry but gotta do this.

            FART NOISE!

          • Grandmere

            There you have it folks!

          • Trevor

            LOL. Just have to make Rod laugh.

          • Dave Knapp

            That’s right– only hockey is worth watching !

  • HeatherMaeC

    “God did away with “sabbaths” “ceremonies” “new moons” … period.”

    I have to disagree on this point…..first of all the sabbath was recognized before the law was given and He will be observing Sabbaths and new moons in His millennial reign.

  • HeatherMaeC

    I always find it interesting when it’s thrown out there we don’t have to follow this or that….but that is never said about tithe.

  • RodK1975

    If I may just interject some “Rod-ology” here and say that God doesn’t even have to judge America. All He has to do is allow us to reap what we’ve sown. If we sow sin, we reap the consequences of those sins. It’s God’s natural law. I read somewhere not too long ago (probably something Mr Shoebat wrote, if so forgive my slack memory) that basically said that when God judges a city or a nation, it tends to disappear forever. So, people out there that are so eager to see God judge America had better think about that which they hope for because it won’t be a slap on the wrist. Instead, they should try to intercede for America and pray that America turns from it’s sinful ways and returns to God with a repentant heart. Many people like to point to events such as 9/11 and yell “that’s God’s judgment”… I say “No, that’s just us reaping what we’ve sown”.

    Besides, remember Abraham’s deal with God before Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed? “Peradventure ten shall be found there..”? America does have a lot of malignant sin taking place in it, it’s egregious and needs to come to an end. However, there are millions of righteous Christians in this nation that are never heard from, that get up every day and serve the Lord, give money to support Christian charities, hospitals, domestic missions, feed the poor, shelter the homeless, support foreign missions, to print Bibles in foreign languages, rescue persecuted Christians and other things to help spread the Gospel and fulfill The Great Commission. I don’t have numbers in front of me, but I say America does this more than most other countries. I hate to jump from God to Gandalf, but I hear people all the time say how much America deserves judgment, so I’ll leave off with this:

    “‘Deserves it! I daresay [we do]. Many that live deserve death. And some
    that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager
    to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all
    ends.”

    • Great point Rod. I always ask: why all these books that pass judgments only on America? Why not on Sweden? It is in a lot of worse shape than America? I could pick a dozen other countries. The answer is simple: American is the country with all the naive who like to buy all sorts of crap.

      • Trevor

        I ask the same question. Why pick on America?

      • RodK1975

        That’s so strange, I heard this guy a year or two ago, that “claimed” to be a prophet, say the exact same thing almost word for word except I think his example was another country. The same guy also said people should stop worrying about the Rapture and get off their rears and do the work Christians were commissioned to do…

        You’re right, sensationalism sells books.

      • Countryflowers

        Because we are a country founded on God and the bible. We were the country that was taking his word to the other countries. But we have turned our backs on God and now allowing all of the perversion he wiped other nations out for. He is no respecter of person. If you follow him you will be blessed. You leave him you will be cursed and destroyed. And you don’t already know this ?

      • Marcos Filipe Guerra

        That’s fair, I would pass a few judgements on Brazil. I hope God raise us through this crisis to be a proud christian country again. I hope He does the same with the US too, and Europe.
        The simple fact is that you can put in whatever interpretation into faulty evidence, wich means nothing. If one can interpret whatever they want from text, then the text means nothing.
        This is the kind of blasphemy some do against the Bible. “You can interpret whatever you want from the Bible.” They are actualy saying that the Word of God really means nothing. One Kardecist told me they use the Bible to justify their beliefs. I told her that’s “dangerous ground” you’re threading on. The Bible is very specific. I told her she used the Bible to her own damnation. She thinks I’m a radical fundamentalist christian by now. Victory, I would say. ALthough, when I talk about fundamental islam she doesn’t care or is willing to discus it. “I don’t know about that.” She dreams going to Dubai or Bahrein. If she only knew the Bible she’s reading….

      • VikingCelt

        Exactly, Walid. Great point. One my family and I hold, as well. God bless you.

        • DeusLoVult

          Hello, my lady, how have you been? 🙂

    • Trevor

      Brilliant comment, Rod! I would give you a million up votes if I could. Love the quote from Gandalf!

      • RodK1975

        It’s hard not to pull quotes from LOTR’s, there are so many good ones… LOL

        • Steve Smith

          people forget how christian tolkin was,

          • DeusLoVult

            VERY devout. The West needs more men like him. Is he popular in Russia?

          • Steve Smith

            i have lotr in russian to, but i like the english better. papa would yell to blow out the lamp and go to bed, i like to stay up reading. it was j r r tokin i was reading.

          • DeusLoVult

            Yes, well, as all books, it is better in in it’s native language. Shame how much England has changed….

          • Steve Smith

            i don’t understand the fad mentality, i was not brought up like that, america has changed our old farm was sold and now it has tract houses. i have a friend who scolds me on all the farm food i eat.. people treat fath like a fad, they are not taught in this life we must suffer.

            this is why atheism lost in russia could america survive the same way? i think it will.

          • DeusLoVult

            I have to go, but I think I’ll share this…..discussion of Tolkien has brought to mind.

          • RodK1975

            Wow Steve, that is so weird… my Auntie (Bless her) she’s 88 years old and she loves to read and did so when she was a child, too and she told the the same thing about my Granddad.. that he would tell her “Blow that lamp out and go to sleep…” and she would say “Ok, daddy, I just need to finish this chapter…” and start a new one chapter… LOL… those old folks are a treasure..

          • Steve Smith

            the lamp cost money to burn. we were very poor no one gave us a hand out.

          • RodK1975

            My auntie (dad’s sister) grew up during the depression, born in 1927 and my Grandfather was a tenant farmer… my dad’s family was very poor… but hardworking poor folks seem to have the best values that come through!

          • Eric

            Rod, my family on both sides lived through the depression, and in the case of my paternal grandmother, poverty. Hard workers have been a single trait throughout my male ancestors, and that am indeed thankful for.

          • Steve Smith

            we had no time for fad christian factory. we did not have a tv so we heard the fake tv preacher.

          • Steve Smith

            yes, russians love books

          • theophorus

            Catholic to be specific. He had an interesting quote on that:

            “Actually I am a Christian,” Tolkien wrote of
            himself, “and indeed a Roman Catholic, so that I do not expect ‘history’ to be anything but a ‘long defeat’— though it contains (and in legend may contain more clearly and movingly) some samples or glimpses of final victory” (Letters 255).

        • Trevor

          Indeed! To think that Tolkein and Lewis were best friends.

          • DeusLoVult

            I think it’s quite amazing, to think that Tolkien was so instrumental in Lewis’ conversion. Both were great men.

          • Trevor

            Yeah, and their fictional worlds are so similar.

        • ChiRho

          I try to use “smoute his ruin upon the mountainside” as often as possible.

          • RodK1975

            Excellent one!

          • RodK1975

            Another of my all-time favorites is: “keep your forked tongue behind your teeth” lol

          • ChiRho

            I’m pretty sure there’s a LOTR quote for every occasion. I quote it pretty often considering it’s been what, well over a decade since the movies?

        • Marcos Filipe Guerra

          You got away with that one. I liked that too. “WOOOOOOOOW” I said. That’s so true.

    • ChiRho

      Correct. All God has to do is pull back His protection and we’re just another banana republic flapping in the breeze. We can damage our country all by ourselves.

    • VikingCelt

      Love the Gandalf wisdom, there, Rodk.

      • RodK1975

        Muchisimas gracias, mi amiga…

  • Tzione

    WELL,we shall see,in the next few days,if he’s a false prophet. http://biblehub.com/sermons/auth/jones/the_sin_and_punishment_of_false_prophets.htm

  • Where did I say that Cahn-artist said “the world is coming to an end”? Show me?

    May I suggest that next time you object on someone’s article please show the quote. It helps you to realize that when you speak you might err. Here is what I wrote, Cahn said:

    “the Mystery of the Shemitah and it’s so big that it affects everything we as a people are personally doing and will affect the rise and fall of the United States of America …”

    Did the Shemetah affect the rise and fall of the United States? This was the whole issue of the article. So perhaps you can re-read it and try to refute it by giving the exact quotes. By then, you might see that warning to repent is okay but setting dates and using the Bible to make claims like this is dangerous and truly hurts American economy. And then to say that these were “revelations” that came from God? This is indeed the claim. Remember, these types of folks will tell you what seems right “repent” “repent” yet they sell you a supposed prophecy that they claim is from God.

  • Beware, America has Christians, but it also has what I call “Church Industry”.

  • Steve Smith

    i don’t understand, how americans are so easy to be fooled. the american farmers i grew up with would not be so easy fooled.
    we get this kind of “orthodox’ speaker in orthodox circles and you fork over 25$ for the pearls of wisdom,most if not all are converts to orthodoxy.without a good solid baba to guide them the get it all from reading a book.
    ok i was brought up very russian, if a bad thing happen to me…. i must have sined and the first thing i would do is go to confession.

    walid you are right .when you say that the jewish kaledar has been changed. at the same time time, the evil old men edited out parts of scripture. the holy fathers said not to celabrate passover with the jews, becouse they changed the date of it

    • Thanks Steve. Indeed the date was changed, but as far as celebrating passover with Jews in order to have a celebration is no harm. Jews do not believe in the Trinity as we do, so to be equally yoked on matters of worship and faith is wrong.

      • Steve Smith

        i should have been more clear. no problem eating a passover with jewish friends, done it many times with mama katz. the date of pascha (easter) was what i was thinking of.
        oh! and if any nut say that easter is pagan your head is full of kasha. the english word is from the anglo saxon word for east ( oster) christians faced east in worship of the risen lord

        • Countryflowers

          Come on the Catholics started Easter on the sun god holiday. Even having sun rise services which was a pegan practice of welcoming in the sun god. Ever notice how they always have a sun behind Jesus and Mary’s head

          • Steve Smith

            see my cross i’m not catholic. and i don’t have kashaa in the head.

          • DeusLoVult

            Steve, I was wondering if you could tell me about the Orthodox Cross.

          • RodK1975

            No… but I have grits on my mind…. lol

          • Do you always like changing the subject?

          • Julie LaBrecque

            CF – get your head out of slanderer’s statements. In Latin, the ‘official’ language of the Catholic Church, it is called PASCHA – only English and Germanic tongues called it Easter. We still refer to His death, resurrection, and ascension as the PASCHAL MYSTERY.

          • Countryflowers

            still founded on the sun god

          • Julie LaBrecque

            When CF – when Mary Magdalene went to the tomb on SUNDAY MORNING to look for Jesus?

          • Countryflowers

            In the bible it is called the first day of the week not Sunday. That’s is a catholic naming of the week days

          • Countryflowers

            Tell me the verses in the bible that name the days of the week as we know them…Sunday, Monday etc

          • Julie LaBrecque

            Are you denying that the first day of the week is what we call Sunday? Could you give me the verses in the Bible that name the planets?

          • Countryflowers

            God set the days of the week in numbers. You know as does the rest of the world that Catholics changed it to name after their gods. And all those statues were of your many false gods and when Constantine’s mother became a “christian” then he just changed the names of those statues to christian names.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            In Numbers? Huh – do you have any proof of your false allegations?

          • Countryflowers

            ever read the bible ? ..they came to the tomb early on the first of the week. Jews still keep the number names for the days of the week. God named them in Geneses when he made each day. go read it

          • Julie LaBrecque

            Proof please.

          • Countryflowers

            your own Catholic literature

          • Julie LaBrecque

            Quotes please, with source.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            Then Mary Magdalene was pagan.

  • eassa

    So many Christians are near panic over the economic predictions Jonathan has been teaching. Many believers are telling their brothers and sisters in Christ to cash in their 401k and all other investments and buy silver or gold. Along with other poor advice being given by so called prophets.
    I remember the Scripture that says there will be many false prophets, and some of these false prophets will do signs and wonders.
    I am wondering if this Shemitah and blood moons talk might end up being a self-fulfilling prophecy in that people panic and cause an economic disaster by their actions.
    Some Christians are focusing more on being preppers rather than on what Jesus told us to focus our lives upon.
    I would suggest that believers read the end time parables of Jesus. One of these parables is in Matt 25;:14-30. This is a very good picture of what Jesus expects us to be doing until he comes and I would suggest that we all read this parable several times and seriously think and pray about what we read in each verse of this parable, asking the Holy Spirit to give us full understanding. I think that perhaps Jonathan Cahn is causing many believers to do exactly what Jesus called wicked and lazy in this parable. In this parable it took a long time to double the profits.
    Jonathan Cahn and Mark Blitz have made a great deal of money selling their predictions and I see no example in Scripture of any prophets selling their prophectic revelations for their own economic advantage.

    • Steve Smith

      you cant eat silver and gold. this is what a russian puts away for hard times.

      • RodK1975

        I’m glad you posted that, it reminded me I need to make sauerkraut.

    • I recall the y2k scare and I purposefully did not even replenish my refrigerator to prove to my friends that nothing is join to happen. Nothing happened. You see I was a programmer and I knew how to change “millions of lines of programming code” within no time and correct the 2 digit yy to yyyy. Since then, every claim that someone set a date turned out false. Jesus warned about causing people to err.

    • Countryflowers

      Walid sells his books

      • eassa

        Yes, but there is a difference. Cahn and Blitz are making their money by selling financial fear, they are causing people to make bad decisions out of fear, causing people to spend their energy and attention on predictions of panic, and telling us it is because of the wrath of God against America. They are saying their message is a judgement from God.
        Recently I heard Cahn giving himself an out if his dates for economic disaster don’t happen, extending his predictions.

        • Countryflowers

          And Walid is making money on our fear of terrorism and Islam.

          • eassa

            I like your name. My grandparents and parents have been farmers and I love the countryflowers I have see in the country.
            Perhaps the difference is that what we learn in the bible about terrorism and the rise of the Harlot religion is that it is actually in the text. These end of this age or end time teachings are in many books throughout the bible.
            What Cahn has been teaching isn’t found in much of the biblical text, in fact, even though I study the Scriptures often, Shemitah was a totally new concept to me. He uses some text about the sabbath and so forth but the case he is building isn’t found in the bible, not scattered in different passages of OT or NT.
            Walid is presenting teachings from the Word, we can read and study, agree or disagree in part of whole. Cahn is telling us that he knows about the financial future and is leading a good portion of the people into making financial decisions that could really hurt them and our nation.
            We have enough to deal with in this global economy without having a “prophet” scare the average invester and causing a further “shaking”
            I can’t see that Shoebat could cause a run on the banks, or cause his brothers and sisters to loose a large sum of their invested money, but there have been a couple times of late that I thought Cahn could cause a run on the banks that could ignite a chain reaction of effects.
            I know investors who are frozen with fear right now, and their fear is a result Cahn pushing his theory. I will be glad when September is over so that we can get back to business.

          • Countryflowers

            The Shemitah is a Hebrew teaching. So it does mean something

          • eassa

            Yes, it does mean something. The quesion to ask is who was this teaching given to? When did this teaching apply? What were the purposes for the teaching? How can it honestly be applied now? To what group of people? Is it internationally applied? If it applies, what other laws given at that time apply to us now also? If others do not apply to us, why does this Shemitah apply? Many questions to ask ourselves.
            Cahn seems to apply it to America because our Founders dedicated this nation to Jesus and made a covenat that this nation would be a nation of His people. It was a covenant between these people and God. Does didicating a baby or person or nation to Jesus mean that these people are under a ruling, which was given under the old law to the Jewish nation? Has Israel accepted Jesus as their Lord and dedicated the nation to Jesus?
            There are Christians who have dedicated their lives to Jesus all over the world, so I ask, why aren’t these other nations under the same cycle Cahn says the US is under? Why apply it only to the US?
            I agree that the US needs to recommit to Jesus, repent of our national and personal sins, I agree that the church has been lukewarm at best for the past 60 years. I agree that we have elected unrighteous men to govern our nation and so we are suffering from serious corruption and greed in all levels of government.
            So national repentance would be a very good idea if we want blessings and protection from God. The one difference is that only in America do I see a serious battle being waged against the evil, and God is not unaware of this battle for the soul of our nation.

          • Countryflowers

            Just look at the same pattern happening.

          • Dave Knapp

            It all just makes ya want to go out there and beat up a Muslim =^J

      • Sure do

        • Countryflowers

          so why do you fault others doing the same

          • ChiRho

            Blood moons are not rampaging across Europe as we type.

          • Trevor

            And, I would add, those stuff being pushed in the American market would be completely foreign to Middle Eastern Christians. They would be thinking that they need to be sending missionaries to America to correct our many errors!

          • Dave Knapp

            No….right now theyre thinking about ways to keep their heads attached to their necks…

          • Okay, if someone sells books how to connect with the occult, should we fault them or not?

  • Stephen Dalton

    Kahn’s so-called ministry only glorifies his own false prophecies and interpretations.

    • Shannon Courtney

      And oh the stories he weaves.

  • Could you perhaps show my EXACT quotes on where I “went wrong” and show me the correction Joyce?I am eager to get “corrected”. Peace.

    • marlene

      The fact that disagree that Kahn is totally wrong about everything, doesn’t mean I don’t agree with everything else you wrote, Dr. Shoebat. I respect you and your extensive knowledge of both christianity and islam. I don’t believe there is anyone else as educated on these subjects as you are.

  • Indeed, they are more of the problem than the solution. If anything God judges heresy more than anything. When one claims he can use the Bible to set dates and cause panic, he is not only doing his country a disservice but he is also causing confusion.

    • mspip

      yes!! no man knows the day or the hour. if they try to set a date, we can be sure they are wrong.

  • This Little Piggy

    I would invite you to consider that Cahn has an interesting revelation that the Dome of the Rock has the face of the dark angel, Satan. Really, watch it an see.

    • I lived there, the cut comes from cutting the stone in two halves and opening them side by side. At times you get these weird looks.

      • Steve Smith

        they fail to say, that the stones and marble are from byzantine churches. byzantines loved to book match marble. silly stuff like finding jesus on toast.this is superstition not christianity. the marble is from the church of the theotokos in jerusalem the largest one in the levent.

      • RodK1975

        Like a Rorschach Test…

    • Steve Smith

      tlp, they fail to say, that the stones and marble are from byzantine churches. byzantines loved to book match marble. silly stuff like finding jesus on toast.this is superstition not christianity. the marble is from the church of the theotokos in jerusalem the largest one in the levent.

  • Brendan

    Hey finally, somebody using scripture to interpret scripture!

  • This Little Piggy

    Put down Richardson’s book now. Walid’s is much better.
    Since he was Muslim & in the Muslim Brotherhood he explains things much better. I might add his videos on Youtube are excellent!

  • RodK1975

    I’m glad you got out from under that. I heard a Pentecostal preacher the other day say that if the prosperity pimp preachers really believed their garbage they’d be sending all of us money .. LOL

    • ChiRho

      Good point. I got to remember that one.

  • Trevor

    He didn’t, but other Christians have and I don’t recall him correcting them.

    Being a prophet is a HUGE burden. A great number of prophets were killed for their preachings.

    • DeusLoVult

      Exactly. Yet, many fools envy the prophets, because of their prestige, among other selfish reasons…..God’s missions are never easy to complete.

      • Trevor

        Exactly. How many prophets were hated and lost their lives? Cahn, by comparison, has it easy.

        • DeusLoVult

          Just look at how contemptibly Paul was treated, when he cast out the demon from a ‘fortune teller’. He was thrown into prison…..imagine that. The world is of Heylel, and thus hates those who are of God.

          • Trevor

            And what about Peter and John who were told to stop preaching the name of Jesus and when they refused, they were flogged.

          • DeusLoVult

            It’s quite amazing how all the world’s prejudice against truth, it’s malice towards the revelation thereof, and the entirety it’s wrath at the sharer of this news can be released all at once, and in such violent manner….seeking to punish he who lights the candle.

          • Trevor

            All because of a Man who rode a donkey in Jerusalem.

          • DeusLoVult

            Twas no ordinary Man….but yes. And to think, that He who yore rode that humble beast through the Kingdom of Heaven, shall return to enthrone Himself as it’s master, and execute Heaven’s Retribution upon the world, which so ridiculed and mocked him. That, is justice. 🙂

          • Trevor

            A true poetic justice.

  • jim gazay

    This Shemitiah stuff is like “spiritual junk food”, you get a sugar rush, the endorphins kick in and you wait for it to happen, nothing happens and you experience the pseudo spiritual sugar crash and you feel let down and bitter that you were taken for a fool. This is what concerns me with the teaching like Cahn presents, it is similar to the spiritual delusion that is taught in the “prosperity” name it claim it movement, it builds you up with fleshly excitement, emotionalisim, date setting, the drama, the feeling of power knowing you have “special knowledge”. This sets people for serious disappointment and possibly loosing Faith completely!! If I understand correctly Cahn didn’t set a hard date, so he can’t be blamed for entirely for all the hysteria and what not, why do we need all this false fantasy and excitement, are our hearts full of God and the Holy teachings, do we not marvel at the beauty of nature? The inner treasures of spiritual blessings?

  • Trevor

    The problem with Cahn is two things: his erroneous handling of the Scriptures and failure to drive home the point of needing to believe on Christ.

    Here are two sources that critiques “The Harbingers:”
    http://www.biblicalintegrity.org/2014/09/19/mystery-of-the-shemitah/

    http://hatchcreek.com/2013/02/11/a-warning-about-the-harbinger-by-jonathan-cahn/

  • I spoke there before Harbinger and all this blood moons when Cahn was a smalltime. No need to make presumptions here. As far as we all “just love one another”, this is an excuse for silence on crooks.

    • DeusLoVult

      Have you ever spoken with Cahn sir, and argued theology with him?

  • “guzzle a beer to wash it down, so long you do not get drunk”?
    Did you really say that?

    Yep.

    “Brother, I love you, but”

    I learned long ago when someone uses “but” to forget what was said before.

    “You lost me when you inadvertently, unintentionally, or I hope ignorantly started promoting satan’s devices.”

    Ya, its like I sell voodoo dolls and such.

    “There are millions of non-alcoholic drinks, but you follow the evil of the world and seem to promote alcohol for casual drinking.”

    Now you’r beginning to sound like a Muslim.

    “Read Galatians 5, Ephesians 5, 1 Corinthians 6.”

    And?

    “Then answer the question: What could get someone drunk which would lead to them not having any place in the Kingdom of God and Christ when they die?”

    And now you stretched it to “drunk” forgetting that I said that “so long you don’t get drunk”.

    “Email me and I will help with the interpretation if you are somehow misinterpreting scriptures.”

    Email you? Why not reason here on the open?

    “Jesus drank and permits us to drink “Unfermented Wine” or “Grape Juice.”

    Utter nonsense. Strange how you forget the gist of the article and now jump into a totally different topic. Some people argue that the Hebrew and Greek words yayin and oinos (translated “wine”) could refer to grape juice as well as fermented wine. However it is highly unlikely that “wine” is fermented whenever the word is used in a negative context and always unfermented grape juice when used in a positive context! “Yayin” and “oinos” simply mean wine – containing enough alcohol to cause drunkenness if taken in excess (e.g. “Noah awoke from his wine [yayin]” Genesis 9:24; “be not drunk with wine [oinos]” Ephesians 5:18).

    There are alternative words in Hebrew and Greek meaning “new wine” (tiyrowsh, aciyc, gleukos) — unfermented grape juice or low in alcohol content, or simply wine that is not fully aged. We should keep in mind that once the grapes are crushed, fermentation starts immediately and the juice quickly changes to wine. The alcohol content reaches its near maximum level within a couple of weeks. The Jews did not know of any process (pasteurization was discovered in the nineteenth century) that could prevent grape juice from fermentation

    “I love you brother, but this correction is necessary.”

    I am damned for correcting Cahn, and here you are trying to correct me?

    “I hope I misunderstood you, and that you are not saying that Christians can drink alcoholic wine. ”

    Christians can drink wine.

    “I am a minister who has cast out hundreds of demons over the years, and yes, from many alcoholics / drinkers of beer etc., and from pastors, evangelists and ministers of the Bible.”

    “Lord Lord I have healed in your name. I have cast demons ….” He says “depart from Me I never knew you”.

  • “but “Cahn-artist” is so contemptuous that it undermines your argument.”

    So what say yee regarding the “argument”? Does it or does it not make sense? Show me the Shemetahs on the stock chart?

  • Speak no evil of one another has nothing to do with exposing and rebuking. Typical verse for wrong occasion.

  • Elisabeth,

    I know what you mean. I have hanged out with Benny Hinn and his family. One day I will tell the story. Glad that you’r not sold on all this nonsense. Jesus rode a donkey, not a limousine. As far as Russia in Syria, its a good thing, but Russia is being pressured in Crimea as well. I am not sure if Russia’s aid to Syria will last, but Crimea is a launching pad for Russia to cross to Turkey and attack it when the time comes. The world now sees the errors for intervening in Iraq and Syria and so far we were correct on this issue.

  • What can I say, enjoy getting conned then and while you’r at it, look at your own heart and repent of your deeds instead of trying to point mine.

    “what Cahn has professed is WARNING”

    Nonsense, using half truths does not make a correct argument. You have date predicting, using Scripture to argue faulty calculations, scaring people to effect the economy …

    • eassa

      Agreed. Watching the markets, people reacting to the “Cahn merchants” could bring down the market much worse than is necessary.

      • Grandmere

        Maybe he shorted the market. LOL

        • eassa

          lol, yeah. China triggered this market mess along with other issues, but I think that Cahn has been part of this. Like I say, Cahn’s prophecy could be self-fulfilling if enough people panic.

  • Sure, I’l go for that, but date setting? Comon.

  • hmmmm, so lets see, Sept 13 is the end of Shemetah but God is sovereign. Is that an excuse to scare people?

  • “We should therefore endeavor to be prepared for it.”

    Sure, store some flour, rice, beans and don’t forget the Spam. Does that need an elaborate calculation and date setting?

    • ace

      Yeah, yeah, pay down or pay off your mortgage and car payments if you have them. Spam is good, but only if you can cook it (entendres fully intended)… And peanut butter, tuna fish, crackers… and, a couple of $4 cases of water in yucky crinkly plastic bottles. Most of all, let’s not forget that Blessed Candle for the 3 days of darkness along with blessed salt and holy water,,,

      • Julie LaBrecque

        Cast iron cookware for cooking outside on wood. I have the candles but not the salt and holy water – do have a crucifix with St. Benedict medal that has been blessed.

  • So if it is no problem for Cahn to warn about America what’s the problem for me to warn about Cahn?

  • Nonsense CF and STOP putting words in quotes as if I said them.

  • Many reached out to Cahn.

  • “The revelations came from God” read his quote.

  • ChiRho

    It was posted by Ted, authored by Walid.

  • Everything is “odd”. I posted it and he double posted it because he had a different title in mind. No need to see “odd” under every rock.

  • “I love most of the Shoebat message, but don’t be so hard on someone else.”

    So Cahn should be “hard on America” but I should “not be hard on Cahn”?

    You know how I see all this? Honestly? These teachers who pronounce judgments should first judge themselves praying on poor folks to scam them for a buck for some horror fiction. Predicting dates and disasters has always been the selling point for the slick.

  • 1Bobby8

    Amen to this, Thank you Walid for this article.

  • Jesus said that the sun too will not give its light. This cannot be the coming blood moons.

    To say “only time will tell” is not the correct approach.

    Would you promise to check with me on Sep 13th?

  • When someone says I am wrong, he needs to show the exact quote on where I was wrong. However, September 13 is in few days, promise to come back and comment? Will I hear your confession how this Shemetah was not it and how we “need to wait”? Your name is “Guilbert” not Gullible.

  • Drew

    I’ve wondered about Cahn’s prophecy and why it didn’t relate too closely to the Biblical context of the Middle Eastern World… not that ancient prophecy cannot contain America.

    What about the significance of the cedar and cyprus trees in NYC he has mentioned? He goes on to connect things like the mass denial of God in American ways beginning with the repeated phrase about being “defiant” and rebuilding again stronger mentioned in many post-9/11 speeches and Obama inscribed it on the WTC beam at the memorial. It’s all so creepy. We need a leader who will stop persecution and bring us back to sanity.

  • Stephen Dalton

    He’s a Judaizer who twists Old Testament passages to mean some thing different than what the text actually means. The fact that his teachings are new and never been heard of before should set off warning bells.

    • marlene

      Funny, but I found his meaning to line up exactly with biblical text.

      • Stephen Dalton

        marlene, years ago, I followed a false prophet by the name of Herbert Armstrong. “His meaning” always lined up exactly to the Biblical text too. The reason for that was if you didn’t read anything other than his literature, it would “line up”. But if you did a little reading outside his line of reasoning, it would fall flat. I suspect this is what’s happening to you. Start reading some other literature about this subject, like Walid’s, and you will see Kahn’s so-called expositions of Scripture are nonsense.

        • Dave Knapp

          So you went from following a false prophet to following a catholic false gospel…..suddenly it all makes sense =^>

          • Stephen Dalton

            Start reading some stuff besides that ridiculous Jesus Is Savior site and you will discover you’re following false teachers and false prophets like I used to do.

          • He doesn’t follow anybody. The idea of obedience is a Christian one, not his cult’s.

          • Dave Knapp

            I dont follow ANYbody…

          • Julie LaBrecque

            Just yourself.

          • Dave Knapp

            This coming from some chick who misinterprets scripture to believe she’s some sort of god or goddess — or will be….pfffffft thanks for playin, but FAIL…you can tell it to Jesus when you stand there saying “lord, lord look at all I did in your name– I was the perfect catholic” right before he tells you he never knew u and to depart from him, you, woman who works lawlessness….

          • Julie LaBrecque

            I’m not a chick. You will explain to Jesus why you persecuted HIs Church, which is to persecute Jesus Himself.

          • Stephen Dalton

            Actually, I went from following a false prophet to following a Protestant false gospel. Then about 20 yrs. ago, I discovered the Catholic Church was the church founded by Jesus Christ, and had the true gospel all along. Suddenly it all makes sense.

          • Dave Knapp

            It was the church founded by Constantine and nothing but a mishmash of original doctrine and Paganism….but with the way they coopt and hijack everything from scripture to early church fathers in an effort to legitimize themselves, I can understand why you and other converts might be confused into thinking they are Christs true church…,

          • Dave Knapp

            As for Protestant false prophets, that can only mean you were in with the Pentecostals and/ or the charismatic crowd…..such individuals tend to show up in those groups and I avoid the charismatics like the plague…, sorry you got stuck with them….

          • Stephen Dalton

            No Dave, when I was a Protestant, I was a conservative, confessional, Lutheran. I had some contact with fundamentalists like you, and the Charismatic crowd, before I became Lutheran, but I was never impressed with them. Both were too narrow minded, and too emotional.

          • Dave Knapp

            Narrow minded? It’s a narrow road through a narrow gate …Jesus…not Jesus plus works and human tradition….enjoy the broad road, fella…. It doesn’t sound like you ever left it no matter what side of the catholic Protestant divide you were on..,.

          • Stephen Dalton

            You’re confusing the two. Narrow minded means never willing to listen to or tolerate another person’s views. You have come on this website several times and have smeared us as followers of a paganized religion. We have tried to tell you to look at accurate historical sources to see what early Christianity was really like. You have refused to do this, so it’s right to tag you as narrow minded.

          • Dave Knapp

            In the early days, guys like Paul and Jude wrote numerous letters on the NT against judaizers and Gnostics..,, if Paul had lived past 313 or 380, he would have been writing against what was happening with the romanized church…..Luther was no hero, and I’m not a fan or follower of his, he was a very confused guy —but he got it right on one thing– the ONLY thing grace through faith and scripture alone….all else is man made nonsense, whether it come by catholic OR Protestant tradition…,I personally will not touch a mainline Protestant denomination any more than I’ll ever think of going catholic..,. But Luther stumbled back into the truth, the ones in the NT that are the REAL truth despite catholic attempts to twist or deny or co-opt the

          • Stephen Dalton

            Dave, knock off that inane Constantine founded the Catholic Church balderdash! No real, competent historian, religious or secular, would back you up on that idea. An honest reading of all the Post-Apostolic Church Fathers shows Constantine didn’t change any Church doctrines. The doctrines the Catholic Church believed were in place centuries before he arrived on the scene. The only people who believe the way you do are folks who have brought into the Protestant black propaganda that has been thoroughly refuted by honest historical research. The only people who push this stuff nowdays are historical illiterates like Jack Chick, and websites like the ones you link to.

          • Dave Knapp

            You’re right, the teachings were in place for centuries—the fundamentals, that is.,., Catholicism once it became ROMAN Catholicism completely dropped the ball and corrupted itself on the 4th century.

          • Stephen Dalton

            Dave, you just don’t get it. There’s no proof whatsoever that the Church became “corrupt” in the 4th century. No reliable historical sources show such a corruption taking place. Your so-called “corruption” is a black legend fantasy that the majority of honest, competent reject. The only people who accept this claptrap are historical illiterates , and bigots like Jack Chick.

          • They can’t bear to read anything sane. The professional wrestling wing will cling to Hislop, Chick, and other trash. What’s funny is that when their kids grow up, they see their parents as fools and liars, but the tragedy is that it makes them leave the faith. Never did the world suffer atheism like we did in the so-called ‘Age of Enlightenment’ (which the Christian East, thank God, never had to suffer through), as it kicked God out of His due place and replaced it with Man. Protestantism was its vehicle, and the end road is an atheism so primitive as to be classified as its own pseudo-religion, all thanks to charlatans.

        • marlene

          I didn’t say he was a true prophet. I said one of his prophecies bore fruit. Don’t “suspect” what you don’t know. Don’t assume I haven’t read what you tell me I should. You’re wrong to think that I would base my position on having read literature from just one person. Sounds like that’s what you did. I respect Dr. Shoebat immensely, but I still verify. Try it yourself.

          • Stephen Dalton

            So what if one of his “prophecies” came true? Balaam’s prophecies came true, and both the Old and New Testament condemn him as a false prophet because of the other things he did. As far as your reading other literature goes, if it was Judaizing nonsense like Kahn’s, it didn’t do you any good.

          • marlene

            I didn’t say he was a prophet, but you haven’t listed one of his predictions that did not come true. Stop banging your head against the brick wall of ignorant assumptions and misunderstanding of my comments. This “dialogue” is over.

          • Stephen Dalton

            Marlene, Walid has already exposed this Judaizers false teachings, so I don’t have to repeat what’s already been said. And you’re correct about “This dialogue is over.” It’s impossible to dialogue with someone like you who’s entranced by a heresy.

          • marlene

            LOL – “entranced”?? You’re in a stupor – sheeple people. This “dialogue” was over a long time ago. So quit bothering me.

          • Stephen Dalton

            Marlene, Walid documented that the Old Covenant holy days and festivals are abolished. So what Kahn is teaching is totally irrelevant to understanding anything. I’ve understood this since I left a Judaizing cult over 30 yrs. ago. Kahn is just an actor putting on a show for entranced, foolish, folks like you.

  • eassa

    I agree with Walid’s comment to you. Cahn got my attention while I was listening to Dr Michael Brown’s Line of Fire. I suppose that was a year or so ago. The resutl of Cahn’s teaching hasn’t been that good because I am witnessing so many groups of believers who are suffering real panic, and listening to some people who are calling themselves prophets who are adding to the things Cahn and Blitz is disturbing. Incredible. And there are also conflicting prophecies coming from these prophets, so both groups cannot be true prophets of God.
    Seriously, there are churches having “Preparedness” classes and seminars that are full of advice from people who have no training in finances or economics, and some of it is really bad advice. Even their stats are wrong.
    I have been praying that God will over-ride all of Cahn’s predictions and warnings so that the people of God will learn to put our faith and trust in Jesus, not in gold or silver, the stock market or the Shemitahs.
    After attending one of these “Preparedness” meetings I couldn’t help but wonder how unbelievers would react to the faithless church that was on full display at this meeting. When the people of God are more fearful and panicked over money matters than the unbelievers, something is seriously wrong. Cahn has managed to turn our attention from the Word of the gospel to our pocket books.
    I hope that the God of mercy will bring good from these bad predictions and show his creation, once again, that it is His voice we need to follow. Jesus said that his sheep know his voice and will not follow another. If we are truly followers of Jesus, we must stop running after men who are calling our attention away from the True Shepherd. What message is Cahn giving to the lost of the world? What part of the gospel is he lifting up so that the lost will come to the true Sheperd? I think that it is possible that Cahn and others will be another cause for people to ridicule the church.
    And the brothers and sisters in the church who are making bad financial decisions because of what Cahn has ignited, he will have to bear the guilt for messing up their financial futures.
    He has begun to distance himself from his origional dates and predictions, and when I heard him doing this, I knew that the big bad date of September is upon us and the pressure is now on him in that his reputation is on the line.
    A preacher I respected, Dr Chris Bullard, once said that a true prophet must be right in his prophecy 100% of the time, not 50% or 70% or 85% of the time. And it seems to me that right now, there are a lot of people claiming to be prophets and at the root of it I believe we find pride and greed.

    • RodK1975

      “After attending one of these “Preparedness” meetings I couldn’t help but
      wonder how unbelievers would react to the faithless church that was on
      full display at this meeting”

      Wow.. Eassa, you knocked that one out of the ballpark… That’s the thought I had when I read the first two or three sentences of your reply. If we have real faith in God, then why do so many so-called Christians fold like a $2.00 suitcase at the first sign of some kind of trouble?

      • eassa

        Exciting, its the first time I knocked the ball out of the ballpark! lol . Glad to know you have the same reaction to living in faith.

        • RodK1975

          It’s just disgusting on so many levels, Eassa… People walk around proclaiming to be super-duper saints and then if there’s talk of something going on or happening and they don’t think we’ll be able to get their double cafe latte tomorrow morning they panic and freak out. If we’re going to call ourselves Christians we should have steadfast faith in God that does not waiver, that means trusting Christ with the outcome even if that outcome is death. How can we say that we believe in Christ, REALLY believe in Christ if we can’t believe Him and His power to sustain us beyond what our circumstances dictate? We’ll see what happens when we get to the place our brothers and sisters in Africa and the ME are where we have to have total faith just to live through the day. 😉

          • eassa

            Yes, and amen to that. What you say is what I have been thinking as I’m watching the panic among many in the faith community.

          • Trevor

            It just mean they have put their faith in the wrong man.

          • eassa

            Yes, that is true.

  • eassa

    Not so.

  • eassa

    Cahn is constantly referred to as a prophet and he accepts the title. He was very clear that this September was going to be The collapse, one that would bring national doom. The date that most of the people fearing the Cahn depression say is that we are safe if we make it to September 28th. However, Cahn is now frequently saying that it may take a full year for all his predictions to take place, so he is bidding his time, at least through this year. And hearing him lately say that God is Sovereign only shows that this entire Shemitah business was totally unnecessary. If God is Sovereign and can do whatever he wills and none of this might happen, then what is the point of Cahn’s predictions and prophetic panic sellsmanship?

  • Eric Mueller

    I do not know this jonathan cahn. I do not care to know him. One person I do follow and occasionally watch is Lyn Leahz. I have 2 questions for anyone willing to assist.

    Question 1- Does anyone here believe Jade Helm exists or is this false information?
    Question 2- According to Lyn, on September 15th France is planning to introduce a resolution which will give formal UN Security Council recognition to a Palestinian state shortly after the new session starts. Is this true? How do people feel about this if it is true? How does everyone feel splitting Israel in half?

    • Trevor

      Jade Helm is a military exercise. That is one way the fighting men keep their skills sharp. Involving police is typical as they have to control traffic or keep private citizens safe while the military train. It is no different than when our military join with other nations in “war game.” It’s always been done.

      As for the “Palenstine question,” so what? It won’t change anything except to piss off Israel and pro-Israel groups.

      • Eric Mueller

        Okay, it’s a military exercise. What exactly is it for though? Perhaps civil unrest?

        I surely hope you were pressed for time to completely answer the Palestine question. What will it say about the United States if we agree that Palestine deserves to be a recognized country? Wouldn’t that put us against Israel?

        • Trevor

          “Okay, it’s a military exercise. What exactly is it for though? Perhaps civil unrest?”

          Think through this for a minute, man. Southwest United States have lot of desert, perfect area to simulate Middle East conditions. How else are our Marines and Army supposed to be prepared for condition there? In preparation for an invasion? Sure. Civil unrest? As in a race war? Jeez. What’s this? The 60s all over again?

          “I surely hope you were pressed for time to completely answer the
          Palestine question. What will it say about the United States if we
          agree that Palestine deserves to be a recognized country? Wouldn’t that
          put us against Israel?”

          Who says that the United States will? Even if Obama does, Congress still have to recognize it, and the pro-Israel groups are pretty influential. And if you haven’t been paying attention, our government under Obama have not very friendly with the Israeli’s government under Netayanhu. Why else would Obama send a team to help bring down Netayanhu in their previous election cycle? Obama and Netayanhu do not like each other.

          • Eric Mueller

            As in a race war? Jeez. What’s this? The 60s all over again?

            Yep. I don’t know about you but when I think back to Ferguson and Baltimore and how the President has sided with the Trayvon Martin’s, the Michael Brown’s, and the Freddie Gray’s and NOT with our police officers, I do believe baraq is trying to start a race war. Failing so far but still trying.

            What you said about the Palestine issue just further convinces me that we will side against Israel. (Not looking so good for us) I can now totally envision baraq agreeing that Palestine deserves to be a recognized state. You mention Congress? HAH! : – D Congress is now just baraq’s lackey. What has Congress done for Christians that are being discriminated against by the gays? What has Congress done about Obamacare? (Didn’t McConnel back in January say once they had the House and Senate they could de-fund obamacare?) What has Congress done to de-fund or shut down Planned Butcherhood? By the time they get their act together to do something good another million babies (probably more) will have died.

          • Trevor

            I had to clean out my ears after reading your screech. Jeez Louise, calm down. You act like America is the only nation in the world to abort babies.

            You are beginning to sound more and more like Jonah. Disappointing. With that, I’m done discussing things with you. Have fun with your conspiracy laden YouTube videos.

          • Eric Mueller

            You did not answer my questions because you can’t. Politicians love their sin, money, and power too much to do the right thing.

          • Trevor

            Stop the press! There are crooked politicians in Congress?! Say it ain’t so!

            Newsflash, bub, there have always, ALWAYS, been crooked politicians. Nothing will change that until Christ come. Until then, Congress can be influenced.

            And man, you DO sound like Jonah who wanted God to destroy Nineveh even after they repented and God relented His plan to destroy Nineveh. Quite a shame.

          • Eric Mueller

            So I guess what I was trying to convey here is Satan’s control will just continue. Muslims keep beheading. Babies keep dying. Gays keep corrupting. It’s funny you should mention repentance. Did you see what the gays want to do to Kim Davis? Here is the article in case you did not see it posted:

            http://shoebat.com/2015/09/10/homosexual-activists-tell-kim-davis-we-will-kidnap-your-husband-tie-him-up-and-force-him-to-watch-us-raping-you-we-will-burn-you-alive-civil-unrest-is-coming-to-america/

            You and I must have two different definitions of repentance. Here is what I found:

            the action of repenting; sincere regret or remorse.

            “each person who turns to God in genuine repentance and faith will be saved”

            You do not continue such filthy behavior and then be saved. You change your lifestyle, you stop beheading people, you stop murdering innocent babies. They won’t stop though. They can’t. God’s punishment and correction will set things right though.

          • Trevor

            According to Hebrews thought, repentance is to do 180 degree turn. And it is also a lifetime process of continuously turning to God.

            And you still sound like Jonah.

    • momprayn

      Here are the 10 things scheduled for September – Sept. 15 being the 70th UN session that reportedly is to indeed introduce a resolution which will give formal UN Security Council recognition to a Palestinian state: (As to my view, if the U.S. votes for it it does not bode well for us and I would not be surprised if something “disastrous” happens)

      The following are 10 things that are going to happen within 15 days of the end of the Shemitah…
      September 14th – Rosh Hashanah
      September 15th – The Jade Helm military exercises are scheduled to end.
      September 15th – The 70th session of the UN General Assembly begins on this date. It has been widely reported that France plans to introduce a resolution which will give formal UN Security Council recognition to a Palestinian state shortly after the new session begins. Up until now, the U.S. has always been the one blocking such a resolution, but Barack Obama has already indicated that things may be different this time around. If alarm bells are going off in your head as you read this, then you probably already understand how significant this event could potentially be.
      September 20th to September 26th – The “World Week For Peace in Palestine Israel” sponsored by the World Council of Churches.
      September 21st – The UN International Day Of Peace. Could this be the day when the UN Security Council resolution establishing a Palestinian state is actually adopted?
      September 23rd – Yom Kippur
      September 23rd – Pope Francis arrives at the White House to meet with Barack Obama. Some have suggested that the timing of this event is highly unusual…
      Francis is the 266th pope who will be meeting with President Obama on the 266th day of the year, leading one Internet preacher to wonder if “something is being birthed” on that day, since 266 days is the typical human gestation period from conception to birth.
      September 24th – The Pope addresses a joint session of the U.S. Congress.
      September 25th to September 27th – The United Nations is going to launch a brand new sustainable development agenda called “The 2030 Agenda“. The following is an excerpt from an article that I just wrote about this insidious new plan…
      If you didn’t like “Agenda 21″, then you really are not going to like “The 2030 Agenda”. Next month, the United Nations is going to launch “The 2030 Agenda” at a major conference that will be held from September 25th to September 27th in New York City. The Pope is actually traveling to New York to deliver an address which will kick off this conference. Unlike Agenda 21, which primarily focused on the environment, the 2030 Agenda is truly a template for governing the entire planet. In addition to addressing climate change, it also sets ambitious goals for areas such as economics, health, energy, education, agriculture, gender equality and a whole host of other issues. As you will see below, this global initiative is being billed as a “new universal Agenda” for humanity. If you are anything like me, alarm bells are going off in your head right about now.
      September 28th – This is the date when the Feast of Tabernacles begins. It is also the date for the last of the four blood moons that fall on Biblical festival dates during 2014 and 2015. This blood moon falls on the very first day of the Feast of Tabernacles, it will be a “supermoon”, and it will be clearly visible from the city of Jerusalem. There are many that dismiss the blood moon phenomenon, but we have seen similar patterns before. For example, a similar pattern of eclipses happened just before and just after the destruction of the Jewish temple by the Romans in 70 AD.

      http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/08/will-these-10-things-happen-within-15-days-of-the-end-of-the-shemitah/

      Jade Helm — yes, indeed. It is real. I’m in Texas, one of the places they are focusing. Because enough of us were informed and knew about it, we expressed our concerns to our Gov. and he ordered the National Guard to supervise. The media is not permitted to cover at all. That’s why you don’t hear anything. However, because of the Guard, we have not had any “incidences” that we know of. But — they have been renovating WalMarts and doing suspicious things that some civilians and ex-military have pictures and reports of. Here is a link to check out:

      http://freedomoutpost.com/?s=jade+helm

  • Julie LaBrecque

    This is unadulterated NONSENSE. The Jews drank NOT grape juice, but WINE. Scripture ADVISES to give wine to one who is heavy in heart, and STRONG DRINK to those ready to perish, Proverbs 31:6

  • Julie LaBrecque

    Could you inform of how the Jews, who had NO means of refrigeration, could keep grape juice from Aug/Sept until March/April for the celebration of the Passover Feast?

    • RodK1975

      22 And
      no man putteth new wine into old bottles: else the new wine doth burst
      the bottles, and the wine is spilled, and the bottles will be marred:
      but new wine must be put into new bottles.

      • Julie LaBrecque

        A bunch of fools touting themselves as ministers.

        • RodK1975

          I wasn’t going to wade into this it’s so ridiculous but you mentioned August to March without refrigeration and I couldn’t help myself. lol

          • Julie LaBrecque

            Common Sense when left aside leads to ignorance.

          • Trevor

            Common sense and lack of discernment is what driving the majority of Christians into the ground these days. I’m thankful I came to my sense.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            Do people ever consider that we are higher than animals? Can an animal use logic or reason? Too bad more people don’t. I really lose it with these cults that reject alcohol – Jesus drank wine, as did all Jews. Do you know why the Apostles couldn’t stay awake in the garden with Jesus to pray? They had drank 3 Cups of Wine at the Passover Feast.

          • Trevor

            Heh. Jesus said, “The spirit is willing, but the flesh is indeed weak,” makes me wonder if Jesus was playing with the word, ‘spirit.’ If you get my drift.

          • RodK1975

            I just thought of another: ”
            18 `For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a demon;
            19 the Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, Lo, a man, a glutton, and a wine-drinker, a friend of tax-gatherers and sinners, and wisdom was justified of her children.”

  • Julie LaBrecque

    Never knew we had to get to permission to drink grape juice. So do you believe that Jesus changed water into grape juice at the Wedding at Cana? Did Mary say, ‘they have no grape juice’?

  • DeusLoVult

    The point of the article was to expose him, you speak of a different issue. Either way…..do you REALLY need to keep reminding people to do that so incessantly? Everyone knows that already.

  • HeatherMaeC

    I like how Pastor Mark Biltz puts it. I am pan-trib. Who knows when it will happen, but with God it always pans out.

  • Trevor

    Why only America?

    • HeatherMaeC

      Maybe not only America. I find it interesting that it’s about wiping out debts and right now our largest debt holder is having an economic collapse.

      • Trevor

        So? Bad monetary discipline leads to foolishness.

        • HeatherMaeC

          I can see centeral planners blaming Jewish 7 years cycles for the markets instead of themselves. After all the devil always likes to hype the Jew hate in times like these.

          • RodK1975

            I have to say you have a point there… Jews are to blame for everything, it seems… Funny, Jews supposedly have this dark plan of controlling everything and taking over the world when it’s Muslims flowing into Europe, not Jews. Antisemitic attacks will increase in Europe now and even more Jews will flee to Israel even further fulfilling the prophecies of their return to the land.

          • Trevor

            “Central planners?” Really?

            The Jews have been hated from the day they were created by the Sovereign act of God.

    • Eric Mueller

      Have other countries murdered 55+ million little babies before they were even born?

    • Excellent point. Too bad not so many ask this 3 word question.

  • HeatherMaeC

    Dates, signs, and symbols certainly mean a lot to the evil people running this world, and if you have listened to what the globalist plan to have a managed decline of the dollar, would it be a far reach for them to put stuff like this out there so when the economy collapses they don’t get the blame.

  • This Little Piggy

    I would argue that we should be more concern about the Pope’s false teachings & the coming global events between the Feast of Trumpets & Atonement this September Research the coming events for the week of Sept 23rd & you will see that we need to be making sure we are Brides need to make white & that our lamps are full, of the Holy Spirit. What is coming this week are, the International Year of Light (on the anniversary of Reagan’s Alien (pope has talked of baptizing an alien), Pope coming to the US (meeting with Obama & talking with Congress & then the UN), climate chaos arrival predicted per French leader to arrive after 500 days comes to Sept 23, 2015. The Day of Atonement is at the same time as the Muslim Great feast of sacrifice

    http://thewildvoice.org/new-world-pope-francis-false-prophet-fulfilled-prophecies/

    • This Little Piggy

      This video, 27 things that will happen Sept to October 2015, explain more about what’s coming. It’s YouTube page also has lots of links to back up the information.

    • From Jonathan Cahn to the Pope. How do you do this?

  • Catbr

    Yes Walid, you should research the Fatima apparitions. There is actual documented proof of the miracles: the spinning of the sun, the fact that it was heavily raining for quite some time until Mary appeared and the ground and everyone’s clothes were miraculously dry, not to mention that Mary’s predictions came true. 70,000 people were at this last appearance of Mary to the 3 children.

    • Yes, but I was told that if a multitude witnesses the sun spinning, it must be of the devil and if a charismatic spins his tongue, it must be of God.

      Which of two do I believe? Its a difficult one isn’t it?

      • Catbr

        lol Well then, there’s your answer. Not too difficult a decision.

        • I tried spinning my tongue. It did not spin. I studied Fatima. Loved it. Especially about Russia redemption.

  • Marcos Filipe Guerra

    I know a missionary. An old lady, she predicted my marriage, she told my wife every characteristic of mine before I met wife. She’s nearing her 70s now, runs arround with much pain to preach and pray for the needy. She’s the only one that I know and have the utmost respect, because she does what she does with lots of pain on her back, getting sick in the almost desertic climate of brazilian center-west and takes very care when she speaks of prophecies. You know, it was thanks to my marriage that I got up and went after end times prophecies. Otherwise I wouldn’t have. I told her of the islamic antichrist, and she was shocked, but received it with great fear, as I did. I did a study in the church about it six months before ISIS showed up. I pretty much was set on catholic being the harlot and the iluminatis being the antichrist, but that’s when I looked in the Bible for that and found no evidence of it. I asked God for the truth, as I was lost and desperate, and vowed to tell everyone I can about it. I stumbled on Walid’s mark of the beast teaching presented by Chuck Missler, looked for it on the youtube, and found out that the truth was always screaming before my eyes, but I was blinded. That’s when I was hit with heat by even my own family, but not so much in the church, still some.
    Anyway, I agree with Walid with everything he posted. There are some here in Brazil that pose as “apostles” of God, and prophecy buffs and those “God told me” stuff to deceive the faithful. It’s true. They chase every conspiracy, but leave the true criminals away from their “prophecies”. I pretty much use what the Bible teaches:

    “From early times the prophets who preceded you and me have prophesied war, disaster and plague against many countries and great kingdoms.
    But the prophet who prophesies peace will be recognized as one truly sent by the LORD only if his prediction comes true.”

    Jeremiah 28:8,9

    If it become true to the very details, it’s of God, if not, not of God. For me it’s simple. Never chase after it, as if it is of God it will come true. If it goes against the Bible, RUN AWAY. God bless and be very careful with “God told me” people.

  • marlene

    I disagree.

    • DeusLoVult

      And yet, as Mr. Shoebat has so constantly emphasized, you dissenters never state your reasons for being so.

      • She must be right, she “disagrees”

        • DeusLoVult

          Ah, of course sir, how could I have missed it. Those two words, in the modern age, are enough to elicit a round of thunderous applause, without ever a justification being desired or offered. Such is the intellect of the masses, to assent without ‘reading the contract’ as it were.

      • marlene

        I did. Read it again. And because I don’t like your tone, you can look it up yourself. The proof is all over the place. You sheeple are all alike.

        • DeusLoVult

          Oh, so now you are attempting to punish me, by telling me to go read cyberspace stupidity? Not impressed. The proof IS “all over the place” which is why it is so astonishing that you have missed it. You are correct, sheeple are all alike. Like you, sheeple deny the facts when they are presented to them.

          • marlene

            LOL – don’t you have any words of your own? Even funnier is your statement that learning the facts would be punishment. LOL. Bye.

          • DeusLoVult

            And what makes them facts? Your word? You would do well to listen to Mr. Shoebat….but I know such advice is all in vain to people like you. You have no ears to hear it, nor wisdom enough to even consider it. Yes, BYE.

          • marlene

            LOL!!!!!!

    • Nonsense. Show the prophecy, prove when it was said, prove that the date matches. You can’t and you won’t.

      • marlene

        Thank you for your rude reply. i saw videos of Rabbi Kahn explaining that the tree, planted at ground zero, would die – and it did. There’s more, but I won’t bother you. I’m sure the videos are still available on Youtube. TBN had him on the show when he predicted a severe drop in the market in a certain month and it happened in that month. He never, as far as I saw, called himself a prophet, and neither did I. Much of what he predicted to occur is in the future, and I prefer to wait before rejecting him. I’d have been happy to refer you to the articles and videos I have, but it’s obvious you’re not interested. I can, but like you said, I won’t – you made sure of that.

        • DeusLoVult

          His rude reply? lol What about all the arrogant sneering you’ve been doing all over the this website? Such obvious hypocrisy. Did you think us to be as ignorant as you, and fail to notice? You know what you are? A SLACKER!

          • marlene

            Likewise, your comments. You’re more ignorant that I could ever be with your derogatory labels and false assumptions. Get back in your hole – there’s too much light out here where I’m standing and it apparently has blinded you. Sheeple people.

  • marlene

    Chill out – if you can state your opinion by denying that anyone else’s opinion is valid, then your opinion is no more valid than that.

  • marlene

    It’s important to know that not every good biblical christian hears from God or receives an epiphany or revelation or has even seen Him. But some have and their testimonies should be considered by those who haven’t if those who haven’t are also good biblical christians.

  • Dave Knapp

    Yes it’s as if the apparitions are soooooooo much better than the false prophets…,news flash, they ALL have the same demonic source…

    • Well, the proof is in the pudding. So far, I find no pudding in your comment.

      • Dave Knapp

        It’s there…. It just isn’t MARY flavored…

  • Rexlion

    Let me see if I have this straight. He invited you to speak at his place, and now you pay him back by calling him names like “false prophet” and “cahn-artist”? What would that make you… a back-stabbing ingrate? Once again you exceed the bounds of Christian decorum by a country mile and show what kind of person you really are. Pathetic, shameless and disgusting! Only the spawn of Satan would spew such vile venom against fellow believers. “Touch not God’s anointed.” I shake the dust off my feet and will no longer cast my pearls before the swine. Look in the mirror: YOU are the heretic!

    • Rexilion, I met the guy before he wrote his books and I knew nothing of the man but that simply he invited me to speak. I used to go speak wherever I am asked, even in a Buddhist temple. Am I not t preach the truth wherever am sent? This should put your slander to rest. As far as he being a conn artist I will prove it tomorrow. Whenever you challenge, your challenge is met.

  • People like this are the ones these Hebrew Roots trolls fly around? Really? I just hope it’s not Jim Jones in a yarmulke.

  • LJW

    At biblehub.com there were 24 versions to choose from and the only translation containing the words (for not) is the……New Living Translation So
    don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not
    celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths. The NIV…..New International Version Therefore
    do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to
    a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day……did not contain the words (for not). Are you reading from an NIV that contains these words? Thank you for your reply.

  • Dave Knapp

    REALLY? Because I think ole Jack beats Rexalla off screen every time she gets a line wrong or doesn’t refer to him in 3rd person on cur….that guy is a loon….tturn him OFF and do yourself a favor

  • Dave Knapp

    I’ve never done it right…

  • Dave Knapp

    Well, actually, I thinks that’s most the people on this site…. =^J …..

  • Perry

    Another great piece, Walid. At first acquaintance, this guy sounds fascinating. But there was always something that bothered me about him. Thanks for nailing it.

  • JamieAllen

    Does anyone have a calendar?
    Anyone?
    Is it possible to know if this is a Jubilee year or not? Don’t trust the Jews or moslems-so we can rely only on believers calculations-not saying anything of Chan and Shoebat, I don’t know either personally, so that’s to God, but any Christian Authority on such a thing as the Jubilee years? I know Jubilee and wouldn’t put it past the Lord to return on a Jubilee, I wouldn’t put it beyond the Lords power to say the last thousand years has been His reign on Earth and the devil is loosed now for that little season, before the Throne Judgement that is Great and White, SEATED in Judgement, Maker, Creator, who was and is and evermore, the Lord Emmanuel, First Fruit and Master of Death and Life and Heaven and Hell and all the earth below, the depths of the sea and the height of the Mountains, the One who Rose from the dead, Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who Glorifies the Father forever and ever and ever; AMEN!

    • Look out for my article to respond to this tomorrow

  • shrptac

    Has anyone reviewed website http://www.daniel11truth.com? Would like to get an opinion….it’s a very thorough layout of end times. Another false prophet?

  • gjl

    Mark 3:25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand. While we fight amongst ourselves, Our Father allows the uncircumcised Philistines to enter our land. Until we humble ourselves and pray. Then will our Father deliver His enemies into our hands. Luke 21:19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

  • DeusLoVult

    *facepalm* I’m not talking about the word. I refer to the fact, that there exists an overwhelming number of visitors to this website, who complain when the author ‘doesn’t ask people to pray for him/her’ or whatever. The purpose of this article, was to expose Jonathan Cahn for what he is, not ask us to pity him. Modern Christians have an inexplicable tendency to avoid calling out the workers of iniquity, and instead say, ‘oh, let’s just pray for him’. Such a display of impotence, in the face of evil, I find to be abhorrent. Why not pray instead for the awakening of those poor souls who have been ensnared by his wicked teaching, whilst attacking this deceiver for his lies? Prayer without action, is toast without bread.

  • marlene

    Sorry, Charles, I already spent it and got MY money’s worth.

  • Catbr

    By your fruits you shall know them. These visions of the 3 children in Fatima are responsible for the conversions of many people who were present. This would not have happened if the visions were from satan. You are definitely not catholic and saying the vision of Mary was the devil does not bother you one bit

  • “Even if you claim that somehow the calendar was screwed up, the dates STILL follow a pattern which is ultimately the point he is trying to make …”

    This is absolutely false.

    “All he is doing is pointing out specific patterns which are astonishing and undeniable.”

    This is also FALSE. It is absolutely deniable and you are being deceived.

    Alright then since you set the challenge for me. I will respond to you in a much detailed article in which it will leave no table unturned on this issue. Look out for it tomorrow.

  • Are you a psychologist by any chance?

  • Wise. Too bad you spent money and aided this nonsense. Its past. I will be doing a detailed article tomorrow on this issue which will leave no question un-answered.

  • This comment makes no sense. If someone is warning of dangers that are unlikely to happen, why then set dates?

    Answer: date-setting sells.

  • Wise man.

  • I will, tomorrow. I will post a more detailed article.

  • Rebuke all you want. Unless the rebuke is proven, you have no case. I see no detailed evidence proving me wrong. What is amazing is that you say that my essay is a “kangaroo court”. Just look at yours. Here is your kangaroo court accusing my essay yet forgetting yours?

  • God will judge the world, including America when He wants to and not when some man declares it.

  • “We do not stone them today”

    Wish we can.

  • Thank you for this comment. They insist on converting Gentiles into looking and acting as if they are Jewish observing Jewish issues. This is also absurd in my view but if you disagree please comment again.

  • O please. There were a hundred or so who approached him.

  • Ya sure. I will reply to this tomorrow in detail.

  • as far as your objections about our Luther articles, I would have welcomed a detailed response where you point the “error” and allow me to response instead of just generalizing as you did.

    “Whether Rabbi Cach is 100% right or 100 % wrong or somewhere in between is yet to be seen”

    I will post an article on this argument for you tomorrow.

  • you’r right.

  • Your tongue is spinning instead of writing in detail proving how these things are “demonic”.

  • “You are very Clever and Extremely Smart. ”

    Ohhh well thanks. Next time use real bullets:

  • Hmmm, how do we calculate all this? I will post on this tomorrow.

  • First of all. the Holy Spirit NEVER errs.
    Secondly, the real arrogance is to attribute an error to The Holy Spirit.

  • I will post a reply in a form of an article tomorrow, so please refute it.

  • “I have also talked to several orthodox Jews and it is correct to say that they do not all agree on exact times or dates. However that does not mean that the dates are incorrect.”

    Boy thats a contradiction. See my reply in article tomorrow.

  • Glad to see you come out of the shell!

    • Ricardo Hotatio

      Hello Walid,

      We are the army of God, united we will stand, divided we will fall. Matthew 10:25, Matthew 12:25. Bless you bro!

  • I will reply in detail in an article tomorrow.

  • Fully agree.

  • This is nonsense. I will reply tomorrow in an article to prove it.

  • There are two types of friends: one who is blunt, truthful and honest, and the other is nice and not so honest. Choose your friends wisely.

  • Go ahead and pray. I will write.

  • “Do you know anyone who sincerely drinks beer for the taste?”

    Yes Me.

    • Grandmere

      Goes good with falafels too.

  • edwitness

    I guess the question should be, when did Cahn ever say he was a prophet of God? Sure he believes he has heard from God on this stuff. But when he says “might”, as you said he did in your article, that should indicate for us the difference between “Thus saith the Lord” and “I believe I have been shown something by the Lord”.
    It looks to me as if you are attempting to defend the indefensible by trying to make the “opposition” look bad. There seems to be some root of bitterness in your strong words instead of it being seasoned with grace. Much like your regulars here. Like priests, like people I guess. Too bad.

    • OrthodoxKGC2015

      Get a grip Muslim.

      • edwitness

        Ortho/muslim,
        Silly heretic. Your the one with so much in common with Islam.
        Idol worship.
        Mary worship.
        Earn your way to Heaven.
        Receive entrance into Heaven by dying in holy war……..

        • OrthodoxKGC2015

          Your calumny and lies are praise in the eyes of God, of which I am not worthy.

          • edwitness

            Ortho/muslim,
            I know you “sincerely” believe what you say. But you have only deceived yourself.
            “Unless a man is born again he can not see the kingdom of god”. You have hitched your wagon to the harlot. You will receive her destruction unless you repent.

  • Stephen Dalton

    Actually, there’s two ways to determine who’s a false prophet. One is what you already mentioned, the other way is if he contradicts any other thing the Lord God has commanded. So, even if his prophecies come true, but he teaches something that go against anything else God said, he’s still a false prophet.

  • DeusLoVult

    I’m alright, my lady….still breathing. 🙂

    Glad that you have returned.

  • Julie LaBrecque

    And people said the mark of the beast was social security numbers, then the mark of the beast was bar codes……

  • Julie LaBrecque

    What was this ‘different treatment’ of grape juice? How did they prohibit the natural process of grape juice turning to wine?

  • Julie LaBrecque

    You are a false prophet, get out with your nonsense.

  • Julie LaBrecque

    I didn’t know he send his holy spit.

  • Julie LaBrecque

    So Lucifer has control over creation?

  • Julie LaBrecque

    I’ll ask Tom McEwen to translate.

  • colin

    I am not defending Mr Cahn – But the Global economy is heading for a perfect storm

    1. The hard landing of the Chinese, it was bound to come eventually – and it now appears to be here, although the Chinese government is still denying it.

    2 The less widely anticipated, credit crunch that is sabotaging economic growth in almost all the developing countries. In many cases their currencies have fallen to historic lows against the dollar, making it harder for them to repay the dollars they borrowed. Moreover, it’s getting harder for them to earn dollars from their exports because commodity prices have collapsed.

    3. The third crisis is looming in the developed economies of Europe, North America and Japan, which can see another recession looming on the horizon before they have even fully recovered from the effects of the banking crash of 2007-2008. And it’s hard to pull out of a new recession when your interest rates are still down near zero because of the last one.

    It would be rash to talk about a long-lasting global depression in the style of the 1930s. But it is certainly safe to say that the global economy is heading into a perfect storm.

  • Stephen Dalton

    Jan, like I already said, he’s a Judaizer. The Church, through it’s apostles, warned us to beware of them and Jewish fables. Also, if this Shemitah stuff is so important, why hasn’t anyone in the Church ever taught it before? Because it’s nonsense!

  • Stephen Dalton

    The sheer outlandishness of his person is enough of a warning to me.

  • “Beware the Apostate Pope Francis that False Prophet.”

    He had a hand in the Shemitah book? Or is it that your hemorrhoids were also caused by Pope Francis?

  • Julie LaBrecque

    Signs in the heavens – See the Apparition at Fatima

  • Julie LaBrecque

    Enjoyed reading your post, sorry on the loss of your wife and and family, my sincere sympathies go out to you. I do not have the two books you wrote of, but do have her books ‘The Rosary; The Prayer that saved my Life’ and ‘The Boy who met Jesus’, both of which I thoroughly enjoyed and treasured. I have the feeling that Walid may soon do an article on the Apparitions, at least Fatima since he referred to it at the end of one his other articles. Keep the Faith, sounds like you are living it better than most of the rest of us. Hope you stick around this site. Blessings.

  • Julie LaBrecque

    Tom_mcewen Julie LaBrecque • a day ago

    IT IS SWEDISH
    2006 (year) is the first Greek-Catholic Church in Romania dedicated to Santa Burgos.

    May 22

    • (hours) of 5:00 beginning of Saint.Messe, with the festive sound of all the bells of Burgos, then continues at. 6.00 / 7.00 / 8.00 / 9.00.

    • 10:15 hrs arrival of the historic parade on the grass in the church.

    • PM. 11:00. Leonardo Sandri celebrates the solemn finish, the blessing of roses and appeal to Santa Rita.

    • 18:00 hrs last party (to receive) Eucharist, or at? of the sanctuary.

  • There are a ton of heretics who preach Messiah. Preaching Messiah does not always prove a true believer.

    • This is always what has separated the Apostolic Christian from the Evangelical – it takes work, and that work is something to be done for the rest of your life. Even Lutherans like Søren Kierkegaard understood working things out with “Fear and Trembling.”

  • Jesus is going after ALL nations who goes against Israel, that much l do know.. And to repent from sins . We are all sinners and need to pray to God for his Kingdom to Come.. I hope l am worthy of being in His Kingdom. The only thing l can tell about the stars are the big dipper and little dipper and the moon and sun. I also know of false religion in most churches and know who practice paganism beliefs. l do believe Walid is telling the truth about the Muslim Nations attacking God’s people is true.

  • “First please understand that i am talking to you in respect and not coming at you. It is not a contradiction. I and simply stating that because people disagree on dates does not mean that one of the people are not correct. My reply is not showing up in the post. how come?” (you must wait for moderator)

    Look, you don’t need to pre-qualify your statements. Here we talk straight and blunt. Its Sept 14 and Elul 29th is now pass. No catastrophe to the day or hour like Cahn said. Here is the best comment I found on the subject:

    Every couple of years there’s a new entrepreneur coming out to steal money from christian suckers. Yes in the last days there will be scoffers. But these people every few years come out with these “dates” and no one ever learns. They all end up selling thousands of books or making lots of money on their websites by claiming to divulge “new” info on “God’s coming judgment”. Christians need to stop being suckered by these snake oil salesmen. The only new info Christians should be worried about is the info in the Bible.

  • Thank you Mindy. Much appreciated.

  • If your culture is predicting the coming of Christ by star-gazing and moon-watching and doing stock-market astrology in order to measure your curses and your blessings, then take your culture in your hands, and while you watch the moon, shove your culture where the sun doesn’t shine.

  • And Elijah to the false prophets and even God in Ezekiel used some language that I won’t use here. These people think that what is between heaven and hell is niceness. They need to go to Syria, Iraq, Russia, Serbia, Egypt and see what Christians go through. No one in these places will buy crappy books like what is sold here.

  • thousands of Muslims invaded EUROPE Not AMERICA and a Crane fell in Mecca Not New YORK.

    These are NOT America.

    So STOP trying to steal other news headlines from other parts of the world while you gaze at the moon praying for a curse on America, just to prove that your false prophet was right.

    Nothing you say makes sense.

    Try reading a real book for a change. You’r in a cult. Star gazing and stock market astrology using the Bible is of the devil.

  • Julie LaBrecque

    I will get it, thanks. Walid has a past article on the apparitions in Egypt, you might try to find it in the search box. I’m not down, just regret the miserable choices I made when I was younger. I too get interested in a book or a project, then my mind wanders to something else – must be cut from the same cloth!

  • Yet you never stated my “false prophecies” since you know that I have never prophesied which makes you a slanderer. Checkmate.

  • Doc

    UPDATE 09/24/15: If you’ve been watching the stock market it looks like a steadily downward trend is in effect. Without all the hyperbole and panic rhetoric, perhaps there is something to Mr. Cahn’s theory after all. We need to at least be open-minded to the possibility that even if he was wrong on some things, he might be right overall. This is why I hesitate to use the word “prophet” in the same sentence as his name. He is nothing more than an interpreter. He could be as wrong as Hal Lindsey, or he might be right on a few things. Time will tell.

  • Now lets examine your very sick head. You believe in star
    gazing prophecy and homosexual marriage including that Mark Blitz is The Holy Spirit and that there is “The Book of Jones” as some holy writ. You’r a psychopath.

    First of all, I decided two years ago to start my own news and Rescue Christians, so I trimmed travel (church events) and media to one speaking engagement a year. I stopped the media and let go of the agency that booked all my media events.

    So all this talk about me not appearing here and there in
    obsolete by my own decision. This messes up your whole wish, curses and everything against me.

    “I concluded that the Age of Pisces the Fish began on that day and would end some day soon …the Age of Pisces the Fish, ends on 09/14/15. The banks of London and New York
    will FALL on that day, Jonathan Cahn’s book “The Harbinger”.

    http://amos37.com/mgis2/

    STRANGE, you made this prophecy that all these bank will
    fall on 09/14/15 and you were a false prophect.

    Then you go around posting remarks about me saying:

    “False teacher, mark my word, do not trust this man. He is
    a Jesuit agent,
 probably of Peter Hans Kolvenbach, the former Supreme Jesuit General. He
 is trying to bring to pass unity of Protestantism and Catholicism.” http://www.prophecynewsreport.com/walid-shoebat-prophecy-of-islam-end-of-days-part-1/

    Then you completely contradict yourself:

    “The protestant that I am, I must back the Roman Catholic
    church in their decision … Protestants and Catholics must work together in this effort … Let gays and lesbians be married in their own eyes …”

    http://libertynews.com/2015/08/breaking-obama-admin-pressing-charges-against-heroic-naval-officer-that-fired-back-at-chattanooga-terrorist/

    So you support gay marriage but without a license. Sort of
    like Sodom and Gomorrah is okay so long they do not get a license.

    “the Age of Pisces the Fish, to end with a big bang. Banker
    gangsters of London & New York will fall.”

    http://wakeup-world.com/2012/09/24/the-age-of-pisces-the-age-of-deception/

    What happened to your little prophecy? It died? Your age of Pisces came and gone, FALSE PROPHET.

    “Isaiah 61 and Luke 4, the end of the Age of Pisces the Fish, the end of the IMF and World bank, the fall of the House of Windsor, the end of the Old World Order, the end of the British-American Empire through fraudulent fractional reserve banking. A world wide debt cancelling Jubilee in concert with Jonathan Cahn’s book the “Mystery of the Shemitah”.”

    You are a LOON.

    “Gary Stearman for his own sake and for the late JR Church
    will not let you on his television program.”

    Never heard of the hack.

    “They were the first to interview Cahn’s partner in this
    effort to obey the Holy Spirit, Mark Biltz.”

    Never knew that Mark Blitz is the Holy Spirit.

    “Son of Hamas Yoseph has already had a falling out with
    you”

    Never had a fallout. I simply exposed him like your Cahn. Actually I decided to expose a whole lot and is why I stopped my media.

    And now you too will be exposed is loon that you are.

    “Sid Roth and Perry Stone have made close friends with
    Cahn”

    Strange, you don’t support an Islamic Antichrist and now
    you speak of Perry Stone who agrees with me.

    “The book of Jones”

    The Book of Jones? That is very strange indeed. Is that
    like a Bible and Mark Blitz is the Holy Spirit?

    “Henry Garman and Hagmann”

    Who is that hack?

    “Internet web sites will not listen to you”

    Is that a prophecy?

    “President Obama, the Congress and the United Nations have
    heard Cahn speak.”

    Strange. Never knew that an appearance with Obama is
    something to be proud about.

    “They will expose your story again how your conversation
    to Christianity and your alleged arrest in Israel for being a terrorist is phoney. Your entire ministry is phoney and only about “MONEY” and nothing more.”

    If you have a retirement plan (which I doubt, you sound
    broke) I would put the entire amount on the line, debate you on both issues, the integrity of my ministry and my background, and the winner will collect.

    Your money will go to Rescue Christians. Deal?

    I suggest you hire a researcher first.

    “ENVY ENVY ENVY. You are motivated by
    ENVY.”

    Actually you are guilty of the very thing you accuse me
    of. As it seems from your post, you are the one full of envy of us.

    “
Slam Dunk in your face.”

    Actually its slam dunk in your face

    “Jesuits must be advising you and your family.
    Dennis Richardson”

    Indeed. Keep it secret okay.

  • Bill. Don’t worry about it. I have thick skin. I noticed you have several comments. I responded to one in some detail and I suggest you don’t keep going through the same loop in the Mary discussion. One thing at a time. You think Lucifer is influencing the apparitions. I think Lucifer is influencing you. Which is it? That is the question.

  • Where is what u provided? Also, you better put a patch on that one blind eye, and suck your tongue back in your mouth before a fly lands on it, you look ridiculous.

  • If I am the “false prophet” who is the “beast”?

  • Judy,

    As far as Jonathan Cahn being a prophet I would agree 100% since his predictions tuned out false. As far as Jesus, He stated that “you shall know the by their fruit”. Indeed we agree that “love” is key, but at times love is defined in today’s world differently than what it says in the Bible.

    If perhaps you might explain to us more in regards to your experience and enlighten us.

    God bless you

  • Wayne Arch

    you need to rethink your judgement

  • I always run into brilliant folks like you who have done an astonishingly excellent job in psycho analyzing me. Indeed, I am filled with “anger” and “animosity” and simply am hate-filled. I get the same words you say here from the sodomites. Do you think we should consider them right too? Tell us O wise one. You don’t happen to be a shrink for hire are you?

    P.S. you responded to a two month old comment above, way after these moons have come and gone and the stock market seems to be doing fine. Do you presume there is a demonic conspiracy? Also, does the Hebrew Calendar obstruct or reveal Christ’s correct date? Its a simple question and should be a breeze for a wise person like yourself.

  • David Brooks

    Please pray for France. Attacks from evil ISIS thugs.

  • Hope Willowtree

    As to you bringing up Acts 20 : 7
    After sailing from Philippi to Troas for 5 days they abode 7 days.
    Verse 7 says on the 1st day of the week when the disciples came together and broke bread together.
    That means they ate a meal together, Paul preached to them and then departed the next day.
    This has nothing to do with the Sabbath.

  • Hope Willowtree

    Col. 2 : 16
    Paul is talking to a people in Turkey’s area that they need not be concerned about Jewish types of things. Because it doesn’t have anything to do with coming to Christ.

  • Hope Willowtree

    1978 had some tremendous Blizzards in the northeastern U.S. causing 151 deaths in Jan. and Feb.

    1986 began with the Columbia blowing up, four F4 tornadoes in July, and interest rates at 9.0% for mortgages; while 1987 brought 2 stock market crashes in October and a squirrel to close down the Nasdaq burrowing through a telephone line.

    1994 had a January earthquake in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles killing 72 and leaving 26,029 homeless. Minus 36° record temperature in Indiana also in January. March 27th brought an out break of 29 tornadoes with an F4 that traveled 200 miles.

    My point to you is that God has not been happy with this nation turning its back on Him. We are foolish people to think that He is.

    Interestingly when the courts passed Abortion law, the prime interest rates began a rise in 1973. And when the laws of abortion were readjusted in 1992 the interest rates correlated and started downward and it is the only time in U.S. history that interest rates rose like that. Coincidence? Why would you even think that when you know God is in control.

  • If man a couple of years ago prophesied and said that the stock market will slow down and the economy will collapse and morality will go to crap and this is his whole prophecy, the man is a false prophet. We have had all sorts of loons who keep predicting this will happen and that will happen. I can show you a ton of books how it will all fall apart and disaster is coming bla bla bla

  • Lenin and Carl Marx were also Jews and so are the Hebrew Roots who deny the Trinity. Have these too been given “the oracles of God”?

  • Thank you Dan. You look good on that horse 🙂

    • Dan

      Walid, I thank you for opening my eyes. God bless your ministry. The horse belonged to my brother Tim. Sorry to say he got rid of this beautiful animal I do miss his gentle character. Hope to see you here in Texas.

  • Instead of giving an opinion, why aren’t you giving an opinion with a refutation to what was written? Is it because you ar unable to refute the facts written?

  • Mark Leo

    Hi Walid I have followed you on allot of what you have said, I take courage in much of what you say. I do not follow Cahn even as a Messianic believer. You gave a scripture in Colosions I do not know what translation, but my translation says that you should not judge me for celebrating Shabbat and Feast Days. As far as false prophet is concerned, I cannot state what Cahn states is true or false because I do not follow him, but what I can tell you that the criteria for a false prophet is one who leads people away from God’s instruction. If you state that the feasts are done away with then this is false as we see clearly The Messiah does not give rain to the land of people who do not come up to celebrate the Feast days with Him in His reign. Just a thought to leave with you if Christ said “if you love Me keep My commandments” John 14:15 and if the Great I Am said “if you love Me keep My commandments.” Exodus 20:6, Due 5:10 and Daniel 9:4. Do I follow Jesus or the Great I AM?

  • Michael

    Oh, please! Cahn is a con-artist, the fastest talking shyster you’ll ever listen to. He’s very clever and he overwhelms his listener or listeners with non-stop Jibber-Jabber, until he literally causes you to swoon for oxygen. If any of you wish to follow this ‘pied-piper’ my hat is off to you. Hope you survive! (Take out your $19.95 right now)

  • Yehezkel Ezekiel

    whats new under the sun?christians putting down christians lol. that is what happen when one fallow a religion that was 1000 years before Ha Mashiach.