Muslims Make Video Of Themselves Slowly Dissecting Christian Missionary Alive For Hours, His Wife Says ‘I Forgive Them, For They Do Not Know What They Did’

Ten years ago, Christian missionary Tilmann Geske and two other Turkish Christians were tortured to death by Muslims in ways almost beyond description. Over a dozen Muslims, five of whom were later convicted and now serving life in prison for their crimes, came to the three Christians pretending to want to learn about the Bible. Once the Bible study began, they tied up the men and spent the next three hours slowly dissecting them part-by-part while they were still alive before finally stabbing them and slicing their throats. Tilmann was stabbed 156 times, one of the other converts 99 times, and the other was stabbed so many times his body was unrecognizable. When the Muslims were arrested, they showed no remorse and bragged they did their crimes to please Allah and support “the Motherland.”

Tillmann’s wife, Susanne, came out recently and recounted how after the horrible even she forgave the Muslims who murdered her husband, and how while she has had to struggle since, she has more faith than ever that God can bring good out of evil and even said how she forgives them because they did not know what they did:

In an interview with The Christian Post last week, Susanne Geske recalled the emptiness she felt in the moments and days following the death of her husband. Tilmann Geske, a German missionary, was killed along with two Turkish converts from Islam in a massacre at a Bible publishing house in Malatya, Turkey, on April 18, 2007.

According to reports, the three men were heinously tortured and mutilated and Geske was stabbed a total of 156 times. The massacre made international headlines and five Muslim men were convicted and sentenced to life in prison for the crimes last year.

“It was just like empty,” the mother of three said, describing the feeling in her heart in the days after her husband’s death.

Speaking with CP while attending the first-ever World Summit in Defense of Persecuted Christians hosted by the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, Geske detailed what happened in the hours and days after learning of her husband’s passing.

“Actually, I couldn’t go home. My kids were taken back from France to home. My eldest daughter came by bus and they sent me to the police office,” she explained. “So, I sat there for two hours not knowing what I am doing there and have this television on. I asked if they could [shut it down] because they all were just telling lies about us and what horrible people we are. I didn’t want to watch that conversation.”

As Geske and her children returned home, she noticed that many of their friends, neighbors and co-workers, most of whom are Muslim, were at the family’s residence to show their support.

“My house was crowded, filled to the top. … We have a kitchen, a long hall, a living room for my kids, a big living room and another room, they were all filled with people,” she said. “Actually, they were all Muslim, all my neighbors, and some people from the church, of course. The Turkish church people, they were so scared, they wouldn’t come but other people from other cities would come.”

It was on the next day that Geske said many pastors had came to her home to visit with her.

“In the end, we are sitting all there in my living room with people I have never seen before. I just had nothing in my mind. Then, someone came and said that the media is in front of the door and they want to talk to you. I was like, ‘No way. What on earth do I say to them?’ Then one of the pastors said, ‘You know, we always want the Gospel to go out,'” Geske explained. “That was like, a switch flipped inside to make me move. I was like, ‘Okay! But what do I say?’ I did a quick prayer and said, ‘You always promised that when we don’t know what to say, you would tell us what to say.’ It was really like, Jesus said, ‘Father forgive them because they don’t know what they are doing.'”

And that is exactly what she told Turkish television channel ATV: “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.”

A number of media outlets across the globe reported on Geske’s act of forgiveness. However, she tells CP that it really wasn’t her decision to forgive the attackers. To her, it was more of an act of “obedience.”

“I was like, ‘[Jesus] said this to me, I will do it.’ I wasn’t even thinking about it,” she said. “I had no clue what I was doing. I really didn’t. I just thought it was a really good thing to do. I was just obedient.”

“There was nothing in my heart, not love, not hate, nothing. Actually, my daughter asked me once, ‘Mom, are you crazy? You forgive these guys but you still have trouble with your landlord?'” Geske continued. “I can’t explain this. I can’t. I think it is just the Lord’s doing. He wanted this to happen and then He made it happen. That is the only explanation I have.”

Being a decade removed from the tragedy, Geske says that through the experience, she and her children have really learned that “the Lord’s Word is so true.”

“He said, ‘If you give up everything, you gain everything,'” Geske said. “We gave up family in Germany. My daughters sometimes say, ‘We don’t have family and I don’t have cousins.’ I say, ‘But, you have so many friends and we have such a big family. We got all these letters, all these people, all these presents.’ Sometimes my kids say that they would like dad more than all these presents, but it helps. My daughter said, ‘Mom, are people praying for us?’ I said, ‘Yes, why?’ She said, ‘I can feel it.’ We were really covered through all these prayers.”

Although her husband’s death means that she’s had to raise three children as a widowed mother, Geske says she leans on the Lord for help.

“I just [call on the Lord] and say, ‘You let this happen, so please help me with my kids. This is Your turn. I can’t do anything any more.'” She said. “I can say all three kids are really with the Lord and this is a miracle for me. This is just because of all these people praying and we have such a big family and everyone watches after the other. This is what we really gained.” (source)

It is often times very hard to forgive those who do evil, but that is exactly what Jesus commanded men to do. Likewise, forgiveness is not license, and justice must be made. That said, God is Love and is the standard of both Mercy and Justice. If we do not forgive others of their offenses, then neither will God forgive us.

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  • Doc

    Frankly, I would have trouble being forgiving for such heinous crimes. I don’t think I could sleep without taking revenge. Just being honest.

    • Michelle Therese

      Same here. God would have to intervene in my heart because there’s no way I could forgive them!

      • Kevin Nicholson

        Yes, only by the Holy Spirit can we forgive others.

        “But you shall receive the power of the Holy Ghost coming upon you, and you shall be witnesses unto me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and Samaria, and even to the uttermost part of the earth.” Acts 1:8 drb

        • ace

          Exactly! Following Jesus, St. Stephen (Acts 7:54-60), and countless others. The way is narrow, and we are not to fear what we will suffer – the testing and tribulation – and, we must persevere and be ready to be faithful unto death.

          For most of us, such words and action seems impossible, but with God, all things are possible. I think it is more difficult to contemplate the torture and death of loved ones than our own death. This story reminds me of 2 Maccabees 7 where a mother watches her seven sons be martyred, and she herself dies in the end after her sons. Along the way we hear:

          “The mother was especially admirable and worthy of honorable memory. Though she saw her seven sons perish within a single day, she bore it with good courage because of her hope in the Lord. She encouraged each of them in the language of their fathers. Filled with a noble spirit, she fired her woman’s reasoning with a man’s courage, and said to them, ‘I do not know how you came into being in my womb. It was not I who gave you life and breath, nor I who set in order the elements within each of you. Therefore the Creator of the world, who shaped the beginning of man and devised the origin of all things, will in his mercy give life and breath back to you again, since you now forget yourselves for the sake of his laws.’ ” (verses 20-23)

          May the Holy Spirit give us such faith and courage should we be called to exercise it….

          • Kevin Nicholson

            Amen ace.

          • filomena seiffert

            I have admiration for that mother. She believed in the resurrection before Jesus was even borne. She is in Paradise with her 7 sons. What a family.

        • filomena seiffert

          When I pray the Our Father I always ask God the grace to forgive when it says…as we forgive who trespasses against us. To be able to forgive is to heal our souls, but is difficult. Only grace can do.

        • Michelle Therese

          SO true!

    • magaforever

      Ya i could forgive them…after i kill them.. How do we balance forgiveness with justice?? Certainly these monsters should be executed .. Forgiving is hard

    • Joan Simpson

      Many people have the wrong idea about forgiveness, they think it means absolving the criminal of his wickedness. Nothing could be further from the truth. Forgiveness is not for the criminal, it is for the victim. If the victim doesn’t forgive they are consumed with anger, bitterness etc. This makes them physically ill in one way or another. [HBP, stroke, diabetes etc] If they forgive then the negative emotions are dealt with and the victim is free from the effects of his own negative emotions. I’m not saying this is easy. For some people it takes years to come to the place of freedom which forgiveness gives them.
      The criminal may or may not be punished by the society in which he lives. If it is a society which believes such crimes against the ‘infidel’ are to be applauded then justice will be served in eternity.
      However if the criminal becomes a Christian:- Some other Christians find this difficult because of the criminal’s past crimes against Christians. We have to remember that we too are far from perfect and with the grace of God put into practice the Lord’s prayer. It could take a lifetime but God is not stingy with His love and grace.

      • Doc

        I agree 100% with your post…but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t like to make those people pay for what they did, and I would delight in being the one to administer that punishment.

    • peakpower

      Eradicating murders is pleasing to God.

  • magaforever

    Do they not still deserve to be executed??

    • Kevin Nicholson

      Yes.

      “For if I have injured them, or have committed any thing worthy of death, I refuse not to die. But if there be none of these things whereof they accuse me, no man may deliver me to them: I appeal to Caesar.” Acts 25:11 drb

  • jami

    Reading how Geske forgave them , she truly is blessed and chosen by God. Normally we all couldn’t do this easily. What a big Heart and when I see her picture and what her Husband had been through , she emits love and compassion, very rare of rare German people like her are to be saluted. Very rare family evangelising amidst Turkey.
    I had tears in my eyes as she reminded,
    “He said, ‘If you give up everything, you gain everything,’” .

    She is truly a Hero wife of a Superhero.
    God bless her and their family and keep them safe.

  • Higlac

    Off topic: does nobody here or elsewhere know or care what the correct word is for “live dissection”??? Do we really like impoverishing our vocabulary??? [It is vivisection!!!!]

    Back to topic: BRAVISSIMA to that lady if she genuinely can forgive them – I know that without Almighty God’s DIRECT Intervention and Help, it would be completely impossible for me until they were dead – and even then… [There is at least one person who’s dead (and one who’s still alive) who I feel severely tempted to wish to burn in Purgatory all the way to the Last Judgement – it’s only as a Christian that I feel inhibited from wishing those two to end up in Hell (the Lake of Fire)!!!!]

    • filomena seiffert

      Thanks Higlac, your erudition is here to correct us. Blessed be God, blessed are you.

      • Higlac

        Not to me but to God and the Glory of His Name be ALL the credit!!!

        Please keep praying for me: I truly feel very tired of this world and all its intrigues, punishments, backstabbing and the rest (especially when I continue to be denied justice and am scorned by lots of others).

        • filomena seiffert

          The cross is our share with Jesus sufferings. When I feel low I ask God to hug me and let me hears His voice. It greatly help me, I can hear a sound in my mind which I attribute to His answer, it greatly calm me down, bring interior peace.our Remember we are nearing our departure from this world and will be in Gods arms forever. I will mention your name in my daily prayers. Please remember me in your prayers also.

          • Higlac

            Eh, before we’ll be in His Hands, virtually all of us will have to pass through Purgatory before coming to the Judgement-Seat of God in the Last Judgement.

            Have no fear, I will pray for you when I pray. My biggest problem is that I not only don’t pray enough: I also have great difficulty in praying properly when I try. It’s as if Satan is doing his utmost to inhibit me in this regard!!!

            Thanks for the tip about asking God to Speak to us and to Hug us – I’ll gladly try it!!!!

  • Indian Christian Crusader

    Actually, they knew what they did. A criminal act. Jesus was referring to the Roman Soldiers and Jews who didn’t know His nature as God the Son, but they knew they were killing an innocent man, as Pontius Pilate had affirmed. “They do not know what they did” is not an acceptable excuse in the eyes of law or courts or civil or God. Otherwise, a hell won’t exist. Paul himself affirmed Romans 13:4 death penalty for criminals.

    Vengeance belongs to God, and it is done through the court system and laws and armies and police (Romans 13:4) to punish evil doers. These men knew what they did and will be handed over to the authorities by God to be punished as per the law of the land (Romans 13:4). We cannot make excuses for lawlessness.

  • Paul Doyle

    “I was just obedient.” Wonderful. That’s the key – simple obedience. She didn’t depend on any feelings or miraculous intervention. She simply obeyed in faith, as her father Abraham did. Praise God for her pattern.

    • Ceirwyn

      Very true. Sometimes You just have to obey and trust the Holy Spirit to get you there later.

  • richinnameonly

    The religion of pieces.

  • Grace Ziem

    Matt 26:52 “Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

    John 15:18–19 “If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world.. the world hates you”.

    John 15:20 “Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also”.

    Hebrews 10:30 “For we know Him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.”

    Matt 5:10 “Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
    for theirs is the kingdom of heaven”.

    1 Peter 4:16 “But it is no shame to suffer for being a Christian. Praise God for the privilege of being called by his name!”

    1 Peter 4:12 “Dear friends, don’t be surprised at the fiery trials you are going through, as if something strange were happening to you.”

    1 Peter 2: 19-21 “For it is commendable if someone bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because they are conscious of God. 20 But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. 21 To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.”

    1 Peter 3:14 “But even if you should suffer for what is right, you are blessed. “Do not fear their threats; do not be frightened.”

    1 Peter 3:9 “Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult. On the contrary, repay evil with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing.”

    Matt 16:25 “For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it”.

  • Moe Kawach

    I’d only wish to die such a death for the lord. This type of hate is expected by all who are not in Jesus Christ. I expect this from Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, atheists just as I do of satanists. It is written, THOSECWHO deny the son, deny the father also for the father and the son are one All who deny Jesus Christ as lord, saviour and god, worship satan aka the god of this world….