Christian Pastor Makes Headlines After Sermon Calling Out ‘Stupid White People’ For Charlottesville Protests

Writer’s Note: What I have written about in this article regarding the dissemination of propaganda has come true hours after this story reached the news. See the update at the end of this article for more information. 

Christian pastor Glen Berteau has made headlines after giving an impassioned sermon criticizing the protests at Charlottesville, saying it was done by ‘stupid white people’:

Glen Berteau, senior pastor of The House church in Modesto, California, became an internet star this week after a clip from his church service Sunday in which he declares only “stupid white people” think God supports racism, went viral after his church posted it online Monday.

The clip, which had racked up more than 4 million views on Facebook Thursday morning, shows Berteau venting during a baby dedication ceremony in the wake of Saturday’s deadly protests in Charlottesville, Virginia, where white supremacists and neo-Nazis clashed with anti-fascist counter protesters.

James Alex Fields Jr., 20, an alleged Nazi sympathizer, reportedly plowed his car into a crowd of activists in Charlottesville killing one person and injuring 19 others.

“For anybody to use the word of God and say you’re gonna use the word of God to hate somebody of a different color, you’ve got to be the dumbest person on this earth to go ahead and say something like that,” Berteau said to cheers.

“There’s a bunch of stupid white people, I’m just telling you, that are stupid and telling people that God is into this, and God is not into this at all. There is not one person better than another person, I don’t care what color you are, that is not the Word of God. That is not what Heaven is like, that is not what this church is, and that’s not gonna happen,” he told his multi-racial congregation.

“Bunch a stupid white folks doing that, what’s wrong with them. Acting like that’s God, I take offense to that. Using our Bible to go ahead and use to hate people is wrong. It’s wrong, it’s wrong, it will always be wrong. It will never be right, it’s gonna be horrible and I totally detest that what they did,” he continued.

He then walked up to a black father holding a young child and declared while touching his arm: “We both bleed red.”

He further added: “He’s got the same heart I got, he’s got the same mind I got, there’s nothing different about us. This is my brother. Will always be my brother, I’ll die for my brother. I’ll stand with my brother…”

Speaking with FOX40 on Wednesday, Berteau reiterated that it is ignorant for anyone to think God supports racist ideology.

“If you’re going to believe that God is a God that ordains hate and do hateful acts, then yeah, that’s ignorant. That’s not right,” he said.

Gary Montoya, communications director with The House church, said he posted the video to Berteau’s Facebook page because he felt it was a message America needed to hear in light of the Charlottesville unrest.

“I mean the people are standing up, it was everyone just felt it and it was during child dedications so it was totally unexpected,” Montoya said. (source)

The essence of what the pastor said- that racism is wrong and that those who believe that God hates other races which He created and are in danger of condemning themselves- is exactly what we have been saying at Shoebat.com in nearly the same way.

However, beware the National Socialist propaganda.

What happened at Charlottesville was but a public manifestation of what we have been warning about for a long time now at Shoebat.com, but few people bothered to pay attention to. We were mocked, scorned, and lost a considerable number of our followers because we warned that National Socialism was coming back and we were the first website on the Internet to conduct a systematic investigation into the connections between Turkey and Japan and the new Silicon Valley eugenicist elites who are currently working on projects now that Joseph Mengele could scarcely dream of. The identitarianism that the synagogue elite of Jesus’ time used as the justification to murder him was the same philosophy of Germany during the second world war and is now once again showing its ugly and genocidal face in the world today. The propaganda that was used during the Second World War has now again become in fashion with only a few simple updated due to technological advancements and different social nuances.

The essence of all socialist propaganda is to promise an earthly utopia that is able to achieved by eliminating a certain class of people. International Socialists, known popularly as Communists, target the wealthy classes of society and use claims of economic oppression as their justification for a revolution. National Socialists target different ethnic group, and use the destruction of culture as their justification for a revolution. Both groups are evil and want the exact same ends, and as the 20th century has shows, it does not matter if it is Socialism of the International or National type, all end in eugenics and death camps. However, the National Socialist propaganda is far more insidious because ethnicity is an intrisic quality that cannot be changed, as opposed to wealth, which is an extrinsic quality that can be achieved. Because of this, National Socialists do not have to lie in the same way that International Socialists do in order to agitate the masses. All a National Socialist has to do is to find if there are any facts in society which are considered “taboo” and make the propagation of those facts their personal cause. They will invite persecution and scorn, but eventually people of reason will come to realize that the facts the National Socialists are speaking are true because they are objective in themselves. It is at this point that the National Socialist will deliver his poison, because having gotten the attention of people of good will seeking truth, they will then respond that the answer to the problems which the facts present is to follow National Socialist teachings.

It is no secret for anybody who reads the news or has attended public school in the last 30 years that American schools have been taken over by people with International Socialist ideas. This is very well documented by many different groups. As I mentioned above, International Socialists lie just as National Socialists do, but because their point of revolution is based around wealth, which is an extrinsic quality, they have to lie more openly in order to propagate their message, and the lies they say are far more easily perceived by anybody who wants to think. Many times in order to maintain the facade of power, International Socialists will have to lie to egregiously that it is to the point of complete absurdity, yet they will say their lies with a stoic face. This eventually and naturally breeds the idea among people that they are being lied to by the people who claim to represent their best interests in society.

Take for example the current fiasco with “bathrooms” and “transgendered” people. Transgendered is just another way to justify mental and spiritual illness because the assumption is that basic human biology can be changed at will because a person “feels” that is can be changed. Yet even the simple can see this is an absolute lie. A man who chops off his penis and puts a dress on does not become a woman- he is just a man wearing a dress with no penis. Yet the International Socialists will march with these “transgendered” people simply because they believe their “cause” is a way to continue to justify and expand their power base, and they will violently persecute people who criticize this.

Jack Donovan. He is a homosexual Nazi, but he is OK because for them, he is a “masculine” homosexual, not a “feminine” one. LGBT is for the left, LGBT not the T is for the right. But L, G, B, or T, all ways lead to H-E-L-L.

Now as we have pointed out, the National Socialists are also pro-homosexual just as the left wing is. They also believe in all the evils of the left except the difference is that while the left emphasizes, as the “transgender” idea teaches, a feminized version of homosexuality, the National Socialists have no problem with a “masculinized” form of homosexuality. This is the reason why the National Socialists will support men such as Jack Donovan, or the same haircuts with dyed peroxide blonde beard tips and hair tips one will find among “feminized” homosexuals on the left one will find on “masculine men” on the right, who are also homosexuals. The issue is not whether homosexuality is evil, but rather how that homosexuality is presented. As we have said, the National Socialist is pro-LGB, just not the T.

This social division is especially apparent in American politics. For years, and especially since the presidental election of 2008 and Barack Hussein Obama, that race has been used in particular by the left, who openly associates with the cause of International Socialism, as a way to divide society. Make no mistake, it has also been used by the right in this time period, but in a far less obvious manner, usually through the cause of “anti-immigration” laws, which we and many others have documented were historically used in American society to propagate National Socialism and outright eugenics. The lies of the left were then and now, such as the example with the “bathroom issue” but also many others, become so flagrant they are laughable, and yet the violent reaction of many of the social miscreants on the left fuels in the minds of the general public the need to respond with equal force. This comes also at a time when “white males” are and have been for decades criticized, villified, and insulted in public education, popular culture, as well as employment, again coming at the hands of the same International Socialists for the same reasons.

National Socialism never died, it simply became Operation Gladio. One cannot understand the rise of National Socialism today without understanding the events of Operation Gladio.

With each passing decade as these ideas penetrated popular culture, it naturally created a fertile ground for the seeds of National Socialism to be sewn. Make no mistake, this was not merely an accident, but was very likely intentional, for as we at Shoebat.com have exclusively documented, the US and European government have been working immediately since the end of the Second World War at reviving, propagating, and preparing the way for the re-emergence of National Socialism through a decades-long program called Operation Gladio. To think that National Socialism simply “emerged” as an organic movement is absolute nonsense, and any organic movements of it that have arisen today have done so based on the foundation that was planted and still is maintained by government agents and their wealthy backers in finance and industry.

The stage has been prepared and the people have been herded as a society towards National Socialist ideas, as they have been made comfortable with them as an “appropriate” response to the current social climate. But make no mistake, they will only lead to the same evil ends. So while the pastor’s words are good and true, be aware that a response to them will come in the form of National Socialist propaganda.

Following the model I have above, in a case such as this, all the National Socialists have to do is to take this pastor’s words and put them in comparison with all of the propaganda that has existed for years from public education and popular culture, they can take all of the “immigration” statistics which says that, most likely in an objective sense, “white people” will become a minority in the USA. They can cite a plethora of facts that are objectively true, and they will win the hearts, minds, and respect of such angry and disaffected men. At that point they just have to deliver the poison, which is that National Socialism is the answer. Because this was a “Christian pastor” speaking, they will take the opportunity to sow anti-Christian hatred into the hearts of those men and opens up the way to the delivery of another National Socialist poison, which is that of the paganism so inseparable from National Socialist philosophy.

Several months ago, Ted at Shoebat.com debated against Martin Sellner, who is a major leader of the National Socialist movements in Austria and all of Europe.

If you have not watched this debate yet, you need to.

When you watch the debate, notice that when we debate with Martin, the debate is not focused on “facts” per se about immigration, Islam, or any other and very real threats that Europe is facing. The issue is not whether or not such facts are true, for as we pointed out above, hard facts are embraced by National Socialists. What we argued and the way to call out National Socialism without getting pulled into a debate over real facts that cannot be debated because they are true is to call out the conclusions of National Socialism. It is not to ask whether or not immigration is an issue, but instead why the National Socialists laud men such as Yukio Mishima or Shiro Ishii. It is to ask them why they think it is OK to have sex with teenager, or to ask them why they feel that defending the “white race” means carrying around pagan symbols such as the swastika, rune symbols, or the black sun disc. It is to ask them why they are against Islam but are working with groups and governments who directly aid the mass immigration of Muslims to their own nations.

Note especially the “sun disc” on the far right side. This is an outright National Socialist, anti-Christian, pagan magical symbol. The new National Socialists need to be confronted over things such as this.

The way to attack National Socialism is not to attack the facts they patronize because it simply feeds their narrative, which is that they have the truth that nobody wants to say and also the answer too.

The way to defeat the National Socialist is to attack the philosophy itself- that any form of government, philosophy, or ideas that deny the intrinsic dignity of man or those who support such ideas are unacceptable- is the way to win the argument as well as to avoid being pulled into the propaganda machine.

The infamous National Socialist Gary Lauck once noted that the purpose of propaganda is to get followers, and the purpose of followers is to make propaganda. Andrew Anglin of the Daily Stormer said before his website was taken down a similar statement, that it did not matter what the facts were or were not, but so long as the message was delivered clearly. He even bragged about selling National Socialism to teenagers, calling them “Generation Zyklon” because so many have been indoctrinated into the message.

So in this time of division when facts are used as tools to propagate evil ideas, one simply should keep in mind the simple words of Pope Pius XII:

Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the State, or a particular form of State, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community – however necessary and honorable be their function in worldly things – whoever raises these notions above their standard value and divinizes them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God; he is far from the true faith in God and from the concept of life which that faith upholds. (source)

UPDATE (11 PM 8/18/2017): I was just on a well-known National Socialist Blog, Fuherious88, and what I wrote about in this article regarding the words of this pastor being used as National Socialist propaganda as well as to promote anti-Christian hatred and pagan revivalism have come true. You can read the post here entitled “All Religion Has Become A Deadly Enemy Especially Christianity,” as well as view the screenshot below:

 

 

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  • Darren Neufeldt

    Quite often I read an article like this and feel like I should be saying something other than just sharing it on social media, but then I think to myself what can I say? I learn so much here, not just from the articles but from the comments as well that I’m left speechless.

    So thank you Andrew, God bless.

  • filomena seiffert

    It is the view of many “christians” or bigots christians, is that God prefer the white race and murder is lawful. We see this all the time; people put their country or race above God. Peace will never happen as long as one thinks of self above others. God first, family second, country third and race in the sewer.

    • Brenda

      Amen, No-matter who’s is doing it we gotta go against the grain in this, there is no third option, It’s driving me nuts seeing all the bickering about SIDES when um yeah were looking at something resembling zombies and maybe this is not the best time to be picky about who your color of friends will be people?

  • Stop the BS

    This pastor’s ‘religious’ congregation went wild when he said, ‘Stupid white people’. He LOVED that attention so much so, that he had to say it again.
    What a stupid pastor, just adding to the racial tension and hate that comes from our media. If anyone says about a whole race, ‘a bunch of stupid mexicans’, or ‘a bunch of stupid black people’, ‘a bunch of stupid muslims’, ‘a bunch of stupid Indians’, do they not see how terrible it sounds? Well, for everyone’s information, it’s just as bad. Why do they not see how racist they sound? It’s NOT OKAY to say ‘a bunch of stupid white people.’ This, coming from a dang white person! Not excusable.

    • Brenda

      He’s not doing media though, or meaning it the same way the media means it, He’s not race baiting here, and those people there know it and are relived to be “wanted” I can see that clear as day. The knee jerk reaction is to be offended. Think about it, other races have forever made fun of themselves and their quirks, we loved them for that, it made us feel at ease at relaxed around them when tensions were high, that is basically what he is doing, Because yes to hate becasue of color makes more hate it always had that effect, Those people are NOT thinking yeah now we can abuse you whites like the media, They are almost in tears becasue they do not want the hate to go on either. The meaning is completely the opposite of hate in this atmosphere.

    • AnthonyM

      ‘Stupid white people’ was the wrong thing for the pastor to say. He was trying to call attention to himself. Heck, today it is not acceptable to refer to people as ‘illegals’, even if that is what they are.

      • Brenda

        True the word stupid sounds abusive today sure thanks to all of the past years events, and yet I thought the same thing myself of those people using natzi flags, rather they were paid to do it or not as they gotta live here also and live in what they are creating, so that was the word that came to mind. Ten years ago we all would have said that so easily and denounced it, So to me it’s falling in line with the PC programming of today’s standards to allow myself to become that sensitive, and sure I don’t want others to become desensitized at the same time either. Maybe he is a phony for all I know but the people seem to want peace, I assume they are more familiar with him than myself.

        • filomena seiffert

          The ones inciting fight are really stupid white people, not to say all white people, just the idiots causing death and turmoil in whatever country. Anyone of any race who think he is above is deranged. Imagine God created 4 races, white, black, yellow and sun toasted (Arabes, indians). Would He discriminate them? or have preference of their color when His is the author of every color in the universe? Who think of their black dog being inferior to other colors or less beautiful? The pastor mint well only forgot to specific.

          • Brenda

            That is how I took it also, Well it’s our own governments made up of plenty of white people coming after their own right now. This don’t erase who has been fair and just in history, in their communities and so on, But as things are now we can’t count on our own police to protect us, That says where were headed to me, I thought went things went south we were to disobey orders NOT obey them no matter how wrong and insane, Oh well that is me many of us are alone these-days.

  • AnthonyM

    Good point, “it does not matter if it is Socialism of the International or National type, all end in eugenics and death camps”.

  • richinnameonly

    “Only stupid white people think God supports racism”? And this is not true of people of any other race? I think the pastor is an opportunist, or wants to be a democratic politician.

  • I understand what the pastor is saying, and this is coming from a “white” man. That said, it’s not right to paint the entire “white” as stupid because I emphatically do not support any type of racial supremacy.

    The Pharisaical nonsense where one says to the Lord, “I’m so thankful that I am not black” or “I am so thankful that I am not white” is to truly demean what Christ did at the cross.

    One verse in the Scripture debunks all racial ideology here, “In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him,” (Acts 10:34-35). This came straight from the mouth of St. Peter the Apostle, a Jew who saw the Holy Spirit fall on the household of a Roman, Cornelius.

    St. Paul would echo Peter’s sentiment when discussing the issue about Israel, “For there is no partiality with God,” (Romans 2:11). Again, St. Paul also says that in Christ, “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus,” (Galatians 3:28).

    So, why some people continue to abuse the Scriptures to justify blaming an entire people based on the skin pigmentation is beyond me.

    I think anybody who supports any type of racial supremacy should be excommunicated.

    St. Pope Pius XII once said, “God did not create a human family made up of segregated, dissociated, mutually independent members. No; he would have them all united by the bond of total love of Him and consequent self-dedication to assisting each other to maintain that bond intact,” (Source</a).

    • Oh Andrew…I just read the comment linked to the National Socialist blog, and this comment right here:

      Jews wrote the bible and started christianity, what do you expect? Believers are some of the most brainwashed of all

      Can’t make this kind of stuff up.

      • Brenda

        Saw that coming as soon as I saw them all going in that direction, Natzis and Islam are close brothers that is why it be them joining up no matter how stupid that sounds to some people right now, as they are only seeing invasions of the western culture in their heads and of of the poor innocent whatever, Oh boy one of the great illusions was thinking were all so innocent.. not, It should be apparent as we cant trust each-other anymore.

      • jimmy

        Andrew has a screenshot of that quote at the end of the article, when I saw it I was like wow! ignorance is bliss.

    • Brenda

      From my understanding he meant that particular group to make it clear that he wasn’t on their side, But that is how I took it becasue I imagine other races than my own must be terrified right now of getting something they don’t deserve, I mean we do see some black conservatives calling out blacks, it’s not easy on them as they get called uncle tom. Maybe this is similar, maybe not from other comments and I don’t easily comment when I think anyone could disagree, Just not a drama person after years of depression wondering what was coming that would be so mournful, sorrowful, in this world.

      • I know what you mean.

    • Kamau41

      Powerhouse comment, Trevor. Absolutely love that quote from the GREAT St. Pope Pius XII. He perfectly nailed it.

      • Agreed; we need more godly men like him today, more than ever.

        • Kamau41

          By far we do. Here is another absolutely fascinating read from MIT Brennender, Pope Pius XI’s Encyclical to the Vatican on March 14, 1937. This focuses on the conditions of the Church/the German Reich:
          ‘“The Church founded by the Redeemer is one, the same for all races and all nations. Beneath her dome, as beneath the vault of heaven, there is but one country for all nations and tongues; there is room for the development of every quality, advantage, task and vocation which God the Creator and Savior has allotted to individuals as well as to ethnical communities. [….] Whoever tampers with that unity and that indivisibility wrenches from the Spouse of Christ one of the diadems with which God Himself crowned her; he subjects a divine structure, which stands on eternal foundations, to criticism and transformation by architects whom the Father of Heaven never authorized to interfere.”’

          http://shamelesspopery.com/a-timely-reminder/
          http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_14031937_mit-brennender-sorge.html

    • Just read an outstanding opinion piece by a Christian who wrote about the white supremacy. He took the black and white Christians to task for fanning the racial tensions in the name of Christ. I thought it was well done and balanced, exactly what is lacking these days.

      https://juicyecumenism.com/2017/08/17/christian-response-white-supremacy/?utm_source=International+Update+August+22%2C+2017&utm_campaign=International+update+&utm_medium=email

  • Vinny Zee

    I once had a pastor with the exact same name only spelled differently. When this all first went viral I was nervous it was him and thankful it wasn’t.

    So what do you all think? You think they’re going to remove all the statues and leave the churches untouched? I can think of no revolutionary attempt like this in history that did not also lump Christianity in with the tyrants and something that must be removed. What this heretic doesn’t realize that he condemned the very people that see him and Christianity as part of the problem. Who is stupid? He has presumed to speak for all Christians by labeling those that most likely hate Christianity, i.e. Catholicism, as stupid. Therefore, Catholics will most likely be the first to bear the brunt when they come for eradicating the churches and this heretic remains untouched. Should he eventually be persecuted, he will be the first calling for help and for others to recognize his poor plight.

    I can honestly say as each day passes I am so grateful I made it home to the Chruch and out of Protestantism. I can hardly stand their idiocy any longer.

    • filomena seiffert

      I do not see the need to remove any statue, it seams silly to me. Any wrong deed the person represented is contrasted by the the good deed. No one is perfect except Jesus and His mother. When the images of saints were remove from the churches it decreased piety and reverence and we have a brand of Catholics by association not by true faith and love of God.

      • Vinny Zee

        I agree, however, my point is now the the statues are beginning to fall like dominoes, do not think the churches will be left untouched. Yes, in one regard it probably started with the churches, but I suspect the desecration of churches will increase soon.

  • filomena seiffert

    The fruits of Martin Luther is a sect broken in 40.000 pieces. The devil is the one who sow division. Jesus commanded the disciples to be united because union make them stronger, He said. I believe if the Ortodoxo church had not separate from the Roman they would not have been conquered by islamic hords

  • Randy Perez

    Look at it from this perspective. How many White people will Jesus Condemn to Hell who are alive today? I assume most. If you cared about anything and anyone you would spread the Word to as much as people as possible.

    • jimmy

      then those are people who just happens to be white. Jesus doesn’t judge based on race.

      • Brenda

        You know when people use words like most that scares me to be attacked out of ignorance, Some people do not leave their homes and have not been heard like the angry and more sporty and competitive people have, they kind of turned us off to seeing the world and people as mostly good even when others tired to tell us it was and used a lot of mental doctor excuse talk. Alone and exhausted from even trying anymore some of us became. We don’t find each other so good when anyone can lie about who they are to get something from you.

    • filomena seiffert

      it probably will be a great number because they know the bible and Jesus commandments (what a great privilege) and forsake every thing. The who did not have the knowledge will find more mercy, Jesus said Sodoma would find more mercy the
      Jews who listed to Him and did not believe.

  • Diana

    Isaiah 28:13 So the word of the LORD to them will be, “Order on order, order on order, Line on line, line on line, A little here, a little there,” That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive.

  • Diana

    Matthew 15:”Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind And if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”

  • jimmy

    as a white person I don’t take offense to the pastors words because I know he meant well and he’s right about racism etc is not of god but his words did play right into the national socialist propaganda machine that Andrew explained in the article, I knew that was going to happen as soon as I read what he said however I do think he could have worded it better, to be more accurate these were hate groups colliding in Charlottesville, kkk, blm, antifa are all hate groups in my book and he should have called out the hate and left race aside. I also think it was a setup by the mayor and politicians to bring these hate groups together knowing it was a recipe for disaster and that people were going to get hurt and possibly killed which is exactly what happened. I’ve heard cops were ordered to stand down and I watched the video where the girl got ran over and there wasn’t a cop in sight before and after the incident and the car backed up down a street an sped away from the scene, something definitely doesn’t add up, cops should have been present constantly keeping the peace not disappear it’s not like they were expecting the kkk, blm and antifa to hold hands and sing kumbaya in the streets, after the incident NO COPS were around an people were tending to the injured victims. so while the pastor meant well I think he should have stepped back and looked at the broader picture before jumping to conclusions.

    • Brenda

      Thank you for explaining it a tad better than I could when I tried to do it, We need to think about things more than we used to, Not be sensitive to words so much otherwise we cave to the mental programming and act on some reflex that is more emotional over logic, Go too far another way and it’s easy to imagine he meant what I would meant as I do not know everything from one few minutes video – like what is supported and not supported from that video alone, So I better be careful – on Facebook I saw a pastor that supports anything liberal as in transgenders, Islam, and more, I had no idea it’s been spread that much so fast.

      • jimmy

        thanks Brenda and yes we do need to be more careful before jumping to conclusions it’s just so much going on so many lies it’s easy to unknowingly support the wrong things.

        that’s just awful about the so called pastor that supports what god abhors. I’ve seen those types and do my best to avoid them.

        and far as “taqiyya” goes, muslims saying its only for times if they feel their lives are threatened is another lie in itself, muslims are permitted to lie to unbelievers and even assume another identity “kitman” to advance islam. after all Muhammad said “war is deceit” just as long as you know the truth you won’t be fooled by deception.

  • David W

    Nationalism was present in the 1st century AD, many centuries before Luthifer. Jesus condemned the Jews for putting their nationalism BEFORE the kingdom of God.

    International socialism and nationalism will form alliances if there is a mutual benefit. American Marxists will march arm in arm with the Muslim jihadists–look at the Occupy movement!

    Hitler was able to forge a temporary alliance with the Soviets to exterminate the Poles. Ole Adolph was able to join forces with the Communists under Ernst Frohm, until they became too powerful.

  • “When I think so many Africans suffered under the yoke of white people…”

    Some of the most feared owners were black Plantation owners.

    Second, rival African tribes were responsible for finding their rival and sell them into slavery. Islam profited greatly from the slave trade.

    Third, it was a white English man, Wilberforce, an evangelical Christian, so led efforts for the British Empire to abolish slavery. He was a politician who died three days later after the parliament passed an act that abolished slavery.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wilberforce

    So, like the pastor of the article Andrew wrote about, you did the exact same thing the pastor did without being balanced.

    • filomena seiffert

      Stop finding excuses for the masters, everyone know the masters were white, I am not saying every white person owned slaves. Excuse for evil of slavery, excuse for invading countries and kill millions. It is slap on the face trying to excuse or justify the evil of anyone, mostly the ones who call themselves civilized.

      • Thank you for proving my points.

        You are unbalanced, period. Nothing ever gets to you, even when presented with facts, because you are narrow-minded and an irrational individual with an IQ of a snail.

        Good bye and good riddance.

        • filomena seiffert

          So you are diagnosing me based on your stupidity. I do not like to brag about this but since you compare my IQ with snail I will say to You, ON MY YEARS OF SCHOOL I WAS THE FIRST ONE IN MY CLASS, it proves I am above average so were my brothers. My children are very smart they conduct their own business since early age,even in USA when I went to nursing school I was on the top. You need to learn to respect others. Go and eat grass.

        • David W

          And the Muslim slave raids from the North African kingdoms decimated coastal regions of Greece, Spain, France, Sicily, Italy and even a few towns in the British Isles were depopulated. Hundreds of thousands or millions of Europeans (Greek and Slav ) died as slaves of Muslims in North Africa and the Levant. Not to mention millions of Crimean Christians enslaved by the Turks…

          The Discus blocking feature comes in handy if she can’t handle the truth!

          • What gets to me, David, is it is not in dispute white owned slaves. What I was trying to point out some of the most feared slave owners were black, something she either refuses to acknowledge or is ignorant of, and proceed to accuse me of making excuse.

            She refused to acknowledge that it was whites who opposed slavery, such as Wilberforce influenced by John Newton, an Evangelical Anglican and famous writer of “Amazing Grace.”

            The reality is there are plenty of blame to go around. African tribal leaders who hunted and sold their rival tribes into slavery were enriched by it while bankrupting their souls. The whites who bought them can generally be divided into two camp: those who were cruel and those who were compassionate. History books like to focus on the cruel owners and gloss over the compassionate ones, the one who owned slaves and treated them with dignity as creatures made in the image of God, and if I recall right, those slaves did not want to leave their masters when America finally abolished the slave ownership with passage of the 14th Amendment, a huge victory for Lincoln and the people who fought the good fight against slavery.

            Today, slavery still exists. Rescue Christian documents cases of Pakistani Christians being enslaved by their own people simply because they are Christians and those Pakistanis follow the implementation of Islam permission to own slaves.

            The great problem I see today are lack of balance in thinking and dialogues on issues of the past which still affects today.

          • filomena seiffert

            I did not ever said that all whites are bad or are slave, you are the one seams not to understand your own native language what I said many bigot Christians had slaves and churches did not oppose. I did not ever mention other religions because many still slave people to this day, most specially islamics who slaves their own wives which are nothing more then breeding labs, domestic maids and sexual object.Now be a man and don talk behind my back

    • Islam and the African Slave Trade

      Over 28 Million Africans have been enslaved in the Muslim world during the past 14 centuries While much has been written concerning the Transatlantic slave trade, surprisingly little attention has been given to the Islamic slave trade across the Sahara, the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean.

      While the European involvement in the Transatlantic slave trade to the Americas lasted for just over three centuries, the Arab involvement in the slave trade has lasted fourteen centuries, and in some parts of the Muslim world is still continuing to this day. A comparison of the Muslim slave trade to the American slave trade reveals some interesting contrasts.

      While two out of every three slaves shipped across the Atlantic were
      men, the proportions were reversed in the Muslim slave trade. Two women for every man were enslaved by the Muslims.

      While the mortality rate for slaves being transported across the Atlantic was as high as 10%, the percentage of slaves dying in transit
      in the Transsahara and East African slave trade was between 80 and 90%!

      While almost all the slaves shipped across the Atlantic were for
      agricultural work, most of the slaves destined for the Muslim Middle
      East were for sexual exploitation as concubines, in harems, and for
      military service.

      Muslims enslaving Africans far longer than Europeans and not an outcry from that airheaded Brazilian.

      Furthermore…

      While Christian Reformers spearheaded the antislavery abolitionist movements in Europe and North America, and Great Britain mobilized her Navy, throughout most of the 19th Century, to intercept slave ships and set the captives free, there was no comparable opposition to slavery within the Muslim world.

      Even after Britain outlawed the slave trade in 1807 and Europe abolished the slave trade in 1815, Muslim slave traders enslaved a further 2 million Africans. This despite vigorous British Naval activity and military intervention to limit the Muslim slave trade. By some calculations the number of victims of the 14 centuries of Muslim slave trade could exceed 180 million. Nearly 100 years after President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation in America, and 130 years after all slaves within the British Empire were set free by parliamentary decree, Saudi Arabia and Yemen, in 1962, and Mauritania in 1980, begrudgingly removed legalized slavery from their statute book.

      Pretty obvious that Christian ethics finally prevailed while Islam continue to stubbornly cling to the past.

      It is no wonder so many people do not have the whole story of the African slave trade and have a complete lack of balance in criticism of the past.
      Source – http://originalpeople.org/the-arab-muslim-slave-trade-of-africans-the-untold-story/

  • Randy Perez

    How do I jusfify it? Based on what reasoning? Think about it. 100 trillion years from now will all this matter? No. As a matter of fact you will look back at this fear and laugh and say “what was I afraid for?”