The Blood Moons Have Been Finally Unlocked And They Reveal The Coming War Between Christians And Muslims

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This is one bloody moon

By Walid Shoebat

Much have been said about “Blood Moons” these days linking biblical verses to the fall of the stock market and a U.S. collapse with much date setting that never happened.

But perhaps analyzing the biblical verses is much simpler than most like to do where they love to use a calculator with stock market charts as if the stock market and the calculator supersedes the simplicity of the Bible. Always keep in mind that in the Bible the “blood moon” or any moon in prophecy is always tied to the “sun”. We find this all over:

“The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.” (Joel 2:31)

While perhaps some cataclysmic event or war or even locust invasions would blot the sun, there is also the spiritual message behind such verses. The moon has always been the symbol of Islam and it turning into red blood would simply mean that Muslim nations will turn to Jihad killing and warfare. After all, isn’t this what the rider of the red horse is all about? This rider is not a literal horse-rider but is a message to prepare for war and bloodshed. Same with the moon and the sun. The sun is symbolic of Christ’s church and the moon is symbolic of the devil and his people.

We see this sort of symbolism all over where the “seas roar” at “the coming of the Lord” and interpreters tend to agree this is the nations preparing for battle. The “sun” which is the source of the light of God is the church which before and during the first part of the tribulation will no  longer transmit light (God’s truth). This is symbolic of a mass falling away where  neither the moon (the Muslim world) witness such light emanating from the sun (the church), but instead will turn to warring with the church.

So crucial is this war between the sun (the church) and the moon (Islam) that one finds this theme in Joel 2:10, 2:31, 3:15, Mark 13:24, Acts 2:20, Matthew 24:29, Luke 21:25-28 and Revelation 9.

Some verses even include the stars falling which is logically the fallen angels:

“Then the fifth angel sounded: And I saw a star fallen from heaven to the earth. To him was given the key to the bottomless pit.” (Revelation 9:1)

How could a “star” be a “him” unless this is a living entity like Lucifer? This leaves no question as to what are these stars. It is impossible for God to call a star a “him” unless it is a living entity.

So once we examine other verses, the evidence becomes as clear as the sun:

 “There will be signs in the sunmoon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

The signs in the sun here is that it will be in turmoil and the moon will call out for blood and the moon nations (Muslims) will revolt “as the sea roars” and “people are faint from terrorism”, “apprehensive of what is coming on the world” for the fallen angels are tossed to the ground.

This “stars falling” is in fact the aspiration of the people of the moon:

“We have sent it down to thee in the Night of Destiny, what do you know of this ‘Night of Destiny?’ The Night of Destiny is better than a thousand months. In it, the angelic hosts descend along with the [holy] Spirit by command of their Lord [Allah], Peace shall it be until the rising of the Dawn (Morning Star)” (Qur’an 97:1-5).

So who is this “spirit” angel called “morning star” who is also the leader of this “descending angelic host”?

The religion of the moon (Islam) is already setting itself up to fulfill its role just as scripture predicted. It even becomes more clear when we read:

The moon will shine like the sun, and the sunlight will be seven times brighter, like the light of seven full days, when the Lord binds up the bruises of his people and heals the wounds he inflicted.” (Isaiah 30:25-26)

This will be the turnaround when the sun (church nations) will become seven fold hotter than the moon (Muslim nations) as we have seen in the past when they finally defeated the Ottoman Empire.

We find this in Revelation 12: “A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet” where the Church (the sun) led by the woman defeats the moon.

How hard is this to figure out?

Lucifer himself is called in Isaiah 14 as Hilal which in the semitic language means crescent.

Revelation 16 speaks of the same issue:

“And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun, and it was given unto him [Christ] to afflict men with heat and fire” (Rev 16:8).

When was the “sun” a “him”? This is Christ and by extension His church which will afflict men with fire and heat by the righteous Christian nations who will use nuclear arrows. Is it any wonder that we find in Joel tongues and eyes melting in their sockets? Even the great supper of the lamb makes this clear:

“And I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that did fly through the midst of heaven: Come, gather yourselves together to the great supper of God“.

This is an epic battle involving the angelic host flying in the midst of heaven supervising the great battle with Christian nations coming in glory for warfare against the people of the moon.

The eagle is God’s agent including His angelic host and His saintly armies led by seven shepherds:

“And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies gathered together to make war with him that sat upon the horse, and with his army (Rev 19:19).

We also see this also in Isaiah:

“Thus saith the Lord: Behold he shall fly as an eagle, and shall stretch forth his wings to Moab.” (Isaiah 48:40)

We even find some of these eagle nations judging this “Moab” which is “Babylon”:

“For, lo, I will raise and cause to come up against Babylon an assembly of great nations from the north country: and they shall set themselves in array against her; from thence she shall be taken: their arrows shall be as of a mighty expert man; none shall return in vain.” (Jeremiah 50:9)

Set ye up a standard in the land: sound with the trumpet among the nations: prepare the nations against her: call together against her the kings of AraratMenni, and Ascenez: number Taphsar against her, bring the horse as the stinging locust.” (51:27)

The “north country” is Orthodox Russia who come with hailstone precession bombing where “none of their arrows [missiles, even nuclear missiles] shall return in vain,” not one. the “flying locusts” “sting” and the “battle horse” is now seen flying above in the sky as it says: “bring the horse as the stinging locust“.

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“Minni, Ararat and Ashkenaz” are Armenia, Nagorono Karabakh and Georgia where Russia sets up its battle plans.

In biblical Old Testament times, Ararat is not a mountain, but is Urartu corresponding to the the biblical Kingdom of Ararat, centered on Lake Van in the Armenian Highlands which includes what we see heating up already in Christian Nagorno Karabakh with Azerbaijan.

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See Uratu on the map. Uratu is Ararat an is usually a reference to Armenia

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Noah’s Ark landed in Armenia. It was the symbol of the Cross that entering it saves from the grave. This Cross landed in Ararat blessing it for a grand destiny. Armenia was the first nation in history to make  Christianity a state religion at the same time of Constantine in AD 301 under King Tiridates III who ruled from 238–314 AD.

Once we track the “sun” and the “moon” we will also find in Isaiah 13:10 where we read:

For the stars of heaven, and their brightness shall not display their light: the sun shall be darkened in his rising, and the moon shall not shine with her light.

There will first be a time of refinement since here we see a massive falling-away where the “sun” will no  longer transmit light (God’s truth) and neither will the moon (the Muslim world) will witness such light emanating from the sun (the church). Egypt, Turkey and the Middle East after the fall of the Ottomans emitted Christian culture and civilization. This is no more.

This is also reflected by Joel “The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.” (Joel 2:31)

This is very clear that “before” the coming of Christ the moon (Muslim nations) will call out for blood “turned into blood”. So crucial is this war between the sun and moon that it is in Joel 2:10, 2:31, 3:15, Mark 13:24, Acts 2:20, Matthew 24:29, Luke 21:25-28 and Revelation 6:12-13:

I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like bloodAnd the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind.

Can anyone imagine if the “stars of heaven fell on earth” that its all over we’d all be dead? Is it possible John was speaking of asteroids? Sure, but what if he was also speaking of the fallen angels since an angel is symbolized by the stars (see Rev 9:1). The “sun” are the Christian nations which fell and the light dimmed where we morn the loss of the faith as dressed in sackcloth while we see the moon, the Muslim nations shed blood and are turning into warfare. Luke 21:25-28 in fact makes it abundantly clear, this is speaking of fallen nations vs. unholy nations:

“There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

As result of our falling away the seas roar and nations will be in anguish. It is obvious that God is speaking of turmoil as we are beginning to see. The Bible in fact is filled with this type of hyperbole:

“Therefore we will not fear, though the earth give way and the mountains fall into the heart of the sea, though its waters roar and foam and the mountains quake with their surging…. Nations are in uproar, kingdoms fall; he lifts his voice, the earth melts,” (Psalms 46:2-3, 6)

John in the apocalypse tells us that “waters” are “people, nations, tribes and tongues”:

“And he says unto me, The waters which thou saw, where the whore sits, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.”  (Rev 17:5)

These nations roar for war. This is mystery Babylon and by extension its corporate beast.

Likewise in Luke 21, this would give us signs in the sun here is that the church will be in turmoil and the moon will call out for blood and the nations revolt as the sea roars and people are faint from terrorism “People will faint from terror”  and are apprehensive of what is coming on the world for the fallen angels are tossed to the ground. This is the aspiration of the people of the moon (the Muslim nations) when the stars are shaken and are cast out of heaven. Such evil aspiration is even in the Qur’an:

the angelic hosts descend [fall down to earth] along with the [holy] Spirit by command of their Lord [Allah], Peace shall it be until the rising of the Dawn (Morning Star)” (Qur’an 97:1-5).

Except to the Muslim, this “spirit” angel is holy when in fact it is Lucifer, the leader of this “descending angelic host.” How, and why does he “descend to earth,” and what is this “rising of this Morning Star” if he is not the same fallen star of Revelation 9:1? And why is Allah “their Lord,” proclaimed as the “Lord of these angels”?

So before you spend a few dollars on a book with fancy titles, just look up the scriptures in an inductive study and get the answers for yourself. It is really that easy.

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  • Trevor

    To lend more beef to Walid’s falafel stand, God has often been attributed to the sun, for example, from Psalm 84:11, “For the LORD God is a sun and shield; The LORD gives grace and glory; No good thing does He withhold from those who walk uprightly.” In another place in the Scriptures, in a vision where John tried his best to describe the glory of the New Jersualem, the very city that Abraham searched his whole life for since its builder and maker is God, “And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is the Lamb,” (Revelation 21:23).

    So when people try to accuse the Catholic Church of adopting pagan sun worship because of attribute given to Apollo, they often will point to the sun in symbol such as crosier staff . What they will fail to note is the cross on the top of the staff in order to demonstrate that Christ is above all.

    In addition to the promise war in which Christians, after being tested by tribulation and enduring without abandoning the faith, this is what the Lord had to say:

    For behold, the day is coming, burning like a
    furnace; and all the arrogant and every evildoer will be chaff; and the
    day that is coming will set them ablaze,” says the LORD of hosts, “so
    that it will leave them neither root nor branch.”

    But for you who fear My name, the sun of
    righteousness will rise with healing in its wings
    ; and you will go forth
    and skip about like calves from the stall. You will tread down the wicked, for they will be
    ashes under the soles of your feet on the day which I am preparing,”
    says the LORD of hosts. Malachi 4:1-3

    It is so obvious that hidden in plain sight, the Lord has repeatedly promised that the Day of the Lord is coming when He will finally triumph over the flesh, the devil, the world, and the Antichrist along with his evil minions.

    Sorry for not posting in the original article about Noah. I had been busy all day, prepping our garden for planting as well as shoveling 1,000 pounds of decomposing leaves for another garden plot. It has been a back breaking work, but it will be worth it.

  • S L G A

    I feel like you just simplified the first 10,000 word article into this one. I haven’t read it all but did you shorten the original so that people would be more inclined to read it since it was long lol

  • AnthonyM

    The Blood Moons Decoded, excellent info.

  • Eric Mueller

    It’s funny. I feel like boiled down simplistically some of the world’s problems could be explained and solved with the first part of Mathew 4.

    “1Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil. 2After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. 3The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.”

    This could be the Envy, Lust,and Greed aspect for our worldly possessions.

    “4Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.”

    “5Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 6″If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written: ” ‘He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.”

    This to me is evidence that we must be careful and wise to who we listen to and follow. Satan can use the Bible to twist and muddle things up quite easily.

    “7Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.”

    “8Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9″All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”

    This one is quite easy. The offer of power and riches. Unfortunately, this offer is taken by many and I am especially thinking of all politicians right now. Here is the solution:

    10Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.”

    11Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.

  • John Mungai

    Some verses that indicate that the literal sun and moon will continue in their normal manner.

    Noah Builds an Altar
    21The LORD smelled the soothing aroma; and the LORD said to Himself, “I will never again curse the ground on account of man, for the intent of man’s heart is evil from his youth; and I will never again destroy every living thing, as I have done. 22″While the earth remains, Seedtime and harvest, And cold and heat, And summer and winter, And day and night Shall not cease.”

    Jeremiah 33:20

    “This is what the LORD says: ‘If you can break my covenant with the day and my covenant with the night, so that day and night no longer come at their appointed time,

    Jeremiah 33:25

    This is what the LORD says: ‘If I have not made my covenant with day and night and established the laws of heaven and earth,

  • Tom_mcewen

    I listened to the BBC interview the Christian milita in Iraq and this reported told them they should turn the other cheek, he was church of England and remembered that part of scripture, nothing else. The milita laughed, and one said, He is protestant. The Islamic state kills one of your children, you give them the next one to kill? You are to love your neighbor, part of that love is defend him if he is going to be murdered. That is Catholic teaching, Protestant teaching is death not love, wishy-washy. I will be so happy when Protestantism is history. A mud house in a 500 year rain.

    • ezekiel22

      Tom that is only descriptive of some protestant churches that emphasize only certain portions and not the whole Bible. As an evangelical it is interesting to note that our church is well protected by members. I do like how you put love your neighbor. I get really upset when hypocrites just avert their eyes to the bloodshed around them and just say God bless!! They would give a drowning man a glass of water rather than a hand to help.

      • Tom_mcewen

        As the Australians would say Good on you.

  • Indian Christian Crusader
  • Flame blue

    I totally agree with this interpretive understanding. Jesus is the light of the World, and He is the Sun/Son. Sometimes, we are cautious in stating that in case of being thought to be Sun worshippers, because of that association, which to this day our enemies say that Son worship is covert Sun worship. However, we know who we worship, and our Lord puts himself on offer instead of paganism.

    The Muslims deny that Allah was a moon idol that they attributed deity status on, but history reveals that truth, and Muhammad’s family who died as pagans, actually had their name associated with this idol.

    In one of the authentic hadiths, which tells of Muhammad’s actions, deeds, personality, words, Muhammad takes after battle the captured women and chooses one to sleep with, but the one he chooses, cries and falls to the ground wailing in great distress at her imminent threat of rape by the savage barbarian who has killed her brothers, father, uncles, (which she witnessed,) in defence of their women and children. Muhammad declares her a screaming devil, and chooses another woman, who saw her family men slaughtered too, but this woman accompanies Muhammad to his bed chamber with resignation at her fate and she tells him of her dream the previous night prior to the battle, she tells him that in her dream she saw the moon fall down to earth and land right into her lap, so she says that’s my fate.

    At no point did Muhammad say he and Allah had no association with the moon, and in fact he accepts her statement. It would seem that this woman and her people associated Muhammad and Allah, and Islam with moon worship or she would not have said what she did, nor would it have been written in a respected hadith, if the Muslims deemed moon god worship association wrong and nothing to do with the Quran, Allah and Muhammad.

    Therefore, Islam is indeed mentioned in the Bible as the Anti-Christ religionists. Yet, we have silly Christian leaders, declaring that Abraham and Abrahamic religions are righteous, giving credibility to Islam and muslims as children of Abraham, likewise, Jews and Christians, in spite of the fact that the Muhammadans intend to destroy all Christians and Jews. Muslims are not children of the true God, nor do they desire to be.

    I agree that God has warned us about the moon worshippers, and we note that the moon’s light is reflected from the Sun, but a pale imitation, not real light, just like the Quran reflects pale light from the Bible, yet purports to outshine the Bible but it is not the real light. We notice that Muslims masquerade as pious and make great emphasis on how they pray like Jesus and all the Prophets, they say, kneeling with head on the ground, and they support their prayer style by pointing out that Jesus did this style of prayer the evenings prior to his capture and crucifixion. At no time do they quote how Jesus prayed in the Temple and read from the Torrah without prostrating himself on the ground. The muslim men claim to dress like Jesus, never do they claim to dress like Muhammad. The Muslim women, they say dress like Roman Catholic nuns, not like Aishia or the other wives of Muhammad. So, We see the falsehood here, the purported piosity, the copying, the pale moonshine as a reflection from the Sun/Son of God.

    If the Sun does not shine, the moon cannot have any light because it has no source of its own. So, for Islam to destroy Christianity, it means it will destroy itself, if it keeps on attempting to do so. So, let the moon war with the sun, but the winner will be the Sun. And even though the moon shines bright because of its warfare against the sun, that warfare will be because cowards turned to the moon, but the good and the brave will turn to the Sun, and the Son will shine 7 times greater, to the point where the Sun’s fierce heat burns up all iniquity.

  • Trevor

    Further thoughts…

    If Turkey’s flag is blood red, what shall we do with the Saudi’s flag? It could easily be identified with the pale horse that has death and Hades following. Furthermore, it is one flag in the Middle East that is brazenly flying the oath to allah, as if they are waving to spite God.

    http://www.madaniwallpaper.com%2Fwalls%2Fsaudi_arabia_flag_4-other.jpg&f=1

    Not only does the flag bears the allegiance to allah, it also bears the mark of the beast in the center.

  • Rjk

    Great explanation of the stars falling and the sun darkening. It makes a lot more sense than listening to clown evangelicals who think the actual stars falling on us.
    A majority of these preachers probably have never stepped foot in the middle east and know nothing about the culture and then try to interpret these verses. At least with Walid you get an all in one package, he’s from there and knows the culture and mindset of the people and the history.
    Thanks Walid.

    • Higlac

      I thought of our man-made satellites actually falling when I thought about it. I.e., those could be considered as our extraterrestrial stars…

  • Taurnil Oronar

    You know Walid. How is it with biblical verses I have read in the past, thought I understood and then you just blow me away with a understanding deeper than thought there was. In your sister article you state how propethtically packed God’s Word is. Immediately I thought of a dna strand, smaller than a living cell yet when stretched out (propethtically unpacked) it is estimated to be about six feet long.

  • Doc

    Walid, someday you’re going to have to put all of these articles into a single book so a person can read them from beginning to end at one time and get the whole picture. 🙂

  • ION

    You nailed it, my brother!!! Good, amazing job!!!
    I’m sure glad you turned to The Creator of All

  • richinnameonly

    Lucifer = Hilal = crescent is pretty revealing.
    Also like the info about the Armenian Kingdom of Ararat.

  • Стефан Евгений

    John. you spent all that time writing a book of fiction, Russia is NOT Magog. you need to be Shoebatized. http://shoebat.com/2014/02/23/russia-gog-magog/

    You, have been fed a lie. http://blogs.christianpost.com/guest-views/debunking-the-russia-war-of-gog-and-magog-myth-8754/

    Russia is a Christian land. many forget that. Why would we destroy Israel, it holds our most holy sites.

    • Maria

      He heeds to error because he hates you, the Russian, while you the Russian reach out to him in love, but he will continue to hate you because in his blindness he hates God.

      • Стефан Евгений

        We must be doing something right, why would the evil one use all his weapons against us. Thanks for the kind words.

        here is Fr Serafim. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2U60sxL5go

        • OrthodoxKGC2015

          Russia preserves and protects the Orthodox Christian Faith, that is reason enough for Satan and his minion’s undying hatred.

  • Gloria

    I can never thank you enough for the wisdom you share with us from your reading of scripture! I can read these passages myself dozens of times and never see it,

    I have never heard it explained this way (about the sun and moon) but it goes together with all other passages and makes sense. The other explanations of blood moons never felt right to me, they did not seem to coincide with other scriptures and so many other interpretations seem forced.

    This unlocks so much. Also, since waters mean people, this sheds light on Revelation 8 to me which I was always perplexed about. To interpret it this way, that the waters in verse 11 could mean people makes sense too and since it follows with the stars falling from heaven meaning angles, I can now see what it means.

    Many thanks and prayers for you and everyone at shoebat.com!

  • Higlac

    So what’s that supposed to mean??? You don’t believe that the earth is round, even though it has been seen and photographed, even beamed from television cameras, from outer space countless times as the globe that it is, that it has been confirmed PLENTY of times as round and so known for almost 500 years (with Magellan’s circumnavigation)???

    Not only is the subject you’re raising a pure non-sequitur: we simply DON’T need your PROPAGANDA!!!!!

    Just fly and/or sail around the planet and see if you arrive at the same identical place or not – that should answer you…

  • NCHokie02

    this makes no sense. Of course it’s spiritualizing things….he’s quoting the bible. I think he’s dead on.

  • NCHokie02

    you sir have outdone yourself once again. Thanks for helping others understand and decipher the bible more. Always a great job. Truly eye opening. You always make things that appear confusing at first so simple once you explain them. I read this and said to myself “Oh, of course.” So easy to see.

  • OrthodoxKGC2015

    Antichrist Blasphemer.

  • racarrera

    Lay off the Evangelical Kool-Aid. It’s unbecoming, and these people always get things horribly wrong.

  • I listened to the first video. In the first 7 minutes he went from the flat earth theory, to the space shuttle not being a flyer to being a jet. He quickly moved into satanic deception such as reading backward. He then went into those who use “masonic” symbols (utilizing still photos of preachers) and how they control society. He quickly moved into 9-11 being an inside job. You can see, I hope, how objective individuals, choosing to give your links a chance are quickly turned off and consider the theory itself a hoax? Whether you believe it or not is fine. However, I would like to ask this. Do you not think there is so much material to cover regarding a flat earth that one could fill up hours and hours just discussing that one topic? The mindless rambling about masons and 9/11 and satanic mind games and control of society, etc, is so scattered it is hard to listen to.

  • Higlac

    What does this have to do with blood-red moons, eh????

    [In any case, the earth’s curvature is amply visible from 20 km. above its surface (that is the altitude where the Concorde aeroplane used to fly).; ergo, far too many people have seen through your “flat-earth” JUNK!!!

    {And please have the courtesy NOT to call me “brother” (“bro”?): we don’t know each other and have never met before…]

  • Kyle

    Alexander,

    I hope you are doing well today in the Netherlands. Sorry, it took me so long to respond to your
    post. I wanted to give you a good
    response for a couple of reasons. First,
    I believe a correct understanding of the Jews is instrumental in gaining a
    better understanding of much of the bible.
    Second, your post caused me to think about the issue from a different
    angle, and made me realize that it is more complex than I was initially
    thinking… as I will try to explain below.

    Before getting to the main points I want to make, please
    allow me to set the stage by saying that, I don’t claim to know everything, and
    that my understanding of the Jewish issue is still evolving. As a
    matter of fact, until recently my view of the Jews was very much like yours
    appears to be. Anytime someone mentioned
    the Jews in a negative light I would automatically tune them out and classify
    that person as an “anti-semite” or worse a “Nazi”. When I held that position though, some parts
    of the bible always puzzled me, especially these verses…

    Who
    is the liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist,
    even he that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever
    denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that confesseth the Son hath
    the Father also. 1 John 2 22-23

    Hereby know ye the
    Spirit of God: every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the
    flesh is of God: 3 and every spirit that [a]confesseth
    not Jesus is not of God: and this is the spirit of the antichrist,
    whereof ye have heard that it cometh; and now it is in the world already. 1
    John 4 2-3

    Those two sections of scripture are fairly
    explicit and it is hard to argue that they don’t fit Judaism. Nevertheless, I always tried
    to apply those verses to the Muslims, but couldn’t get around the fact that it also
    applies to the Jews. Furthermore,
    the portions of Revelation referring to the Harlot of Babylon also always puzzled
    me. I used to think, like Walid. that the
    Harlot was Mecca (and it does partially fulfill in Mecca)….and there is no
    doubt that “Corporate Mecca”, to use Walid’s term, is Antichrist. Nevertheless, the Spirit put it in my heart
    to keep thinking and wondering about the Harlot. Then, several months ago I came across a website
    that laid out the case for Jerusalem being the Harlot. I won’t go too much into that in this post as
    I tried to explain it in my previous post, but suffice it to say I realized
    that the case for Jerusalem is actually much stronger than that for Mecca. From there I started seeing today’s Jews in a
    whole new light. More importantly
    however, huge chunks of the bible, mainly the prophets, started making much
    more sense.

    Now to the main points I hope to make in
    this response. Your post prompted me to
    go back and read Romans 11 very carefully (thank you) and I realized that I
    needed to modify my thinking. I
    realized that even though corporate Judaism is Anti-Christ, and is actively
    working against Christian interests, instead of taking a position of “damning
    the Jews” for it, Christians need to love them and try to save them if possible. Paul
    even says this in the very chapter you cited, Romans 11….

    As far as the
    gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is
    concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs Romans 11 verse 28

    In verse 1 Paul also says “Did God reject
    his people? By no means!”. How does one reconcile this with John saying
    that if you reject Christ you are anti-Christ?
    At first glance those two verses seem to be opposites and irreconcilable. It all ties together though when you realize
    that God did not reject them, Corporate Judaism turned away from God but God
    still loves them anyway. It gets even more interesting when you realize
    that while there is a “remnant” that is sincerely seeking God and is in the
    process of being saved and coming to Christ. At the same time (and conversely) embedded
    within corporate Judaism is a malevolent entity whom Jesus describes as follows….

    I know your afflictions and your
    poverty—yet you are rich! I know about the slander of those who say they are
    Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. Revelation 2:9

    In regards to people who say they are Jews
    but are not, Paul says….

    For he is not a
    Jew who is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision which is outward in the
    flesh: 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; Romans 2 28-29

    Finally, you stated that you didn’t like it
    when people referred to Jews and “Christ killers”. I agree with you, this is harsh
    language. However, what do you make of these
    verses?

    For ye also
    suffered the same things of your own countrymen, even as they did of the Jews; 15 who
    both killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove out us, and please not
    God, and are contrary to all men; 16 forbidding us to speak to
    the Gentiles that they may be saved; 1 Thessalonians 2 14-16

    In summary, should Christians love the
    Jews? Yes. Should they recognize that Corporate Judaism
    is the enemy of Corporate Christianity?
    Yes. Were the prophets Jews? Yes. Were
    those they were warning, prophesying against and those who ultimately killed them
    also Jews. Yes. Are there Jews in the process of being saved that
    have not bowed the knee to Baal?
    Yes. Are there Jews that have
    bowed their knee to Baal and in the process of using evil means to destroy Christianity? Yes.

    Alexander, I hope that at the very least
    some of what I have written above will be of interest to you. Thank you for taking the time to write to me
    and please recognize that I am your friend and brother in Christ. Greetings from Texas.

    • alexander

      Please look at this website what gives you more detail .
      Its a Dutch website but the article is in english and Dutch under it , Its a website of friends of Israel

      Please look at it ?
      Its talking about Turkey as the Antichrist

      http://www.vriendenvanisrael.nl/?p=2155

      Godbless you kyle , Love you