The Most Horrific Evil Is Rising Up, The False Church Of The Antichrist Is Uniting With The Demonic Religion Of Islam, And The Most Horrific Diabolical Empire Will Appear

By Walid Shoebat (Shoebat Sunday Special, continuation of Part IPart II, Part III)

Many Christians live their lives in confidence believing they are equipped to handle Antichrist’s deception. But after comparing the rarely discussed link, between Hitler’s Germany and the Muslim Ottomans, with what conservative movements are campaigning for today, you will reconsider, that you too, have swallowed an Antichrist bait, without even realizing it. You probably even read the verse “deceive (if possible) even the elect” and thought of yourself as “elect” and therefore “immune” when you probably have been deceived and bit the bait already. Let me explain:

When Hitler came to power, some theologians interpreted prophecy to see Hitler as The Antichrist. But when the war was over, they couldn’t understand how they missed the mark, since the world didn’t end, and Christ did not show up.

But they didn’t miss the mark; they simply misunderstood there is a dual fulfillment. The rise and fall of Nazism (coupled with the Ottomans) was simply a prelude of things to come, so that once we examine Nazism’s history, especially its link to Islam—a rarely discussed topic by historians—you will see the glaring match, to the current populous trend of “cultural uniformity” that most are striving to accomplish. This, coupled with the revival of neo-Ottomanism, will reveal, that it all mimics the same old masters of iniquity, where it sheds more light on the nature of Antichrist and his Muslim false prophet. It is only then that we can see how God, in advance, uses even this historic manure, to give us a clearer picture on how these same prophecies and historic events will repeat again.

All this probably sounds confusing so far, but here, we will unravel it for you.

Just take a quick look at the amazing parallels. Today we have a growing populist western trend, demanding “cultural uniformity”. While ‘culture uniformity’ is not exactly puritanical racism, and all this sounds good to the simpleton, so few realize this is all a guise as evil develops in increments.

By the time it all develops, the true goal will be, that all, but their “ethnic race” needs to be “excluded” from society.

So many Christians are falling into this trap. The victims lack the lessons from Nazism’s rarely discussed history, that the ‘conservative right’ after Nazism’s inception, which called to throw out all ‘non-pedigree’ soon shifted gears, quickly reversing direction, to include outside the elite groups on the periphery; Black Africans, Muslim Arabs, Yellow Asians, Indians, Muslim Turks, Muslim Chechens, Muslim Bosnians, Catholic Croats and even Orthodox Jews who served in Hitler’s military machine. Nazism gives us a clear picture on the type of Jews and Christians who fell right into Antichrist’s trap.

The first parallel are these races that joined Hitler. They include the same geography of the prophetic narrative regarding Antichrist, especially in Ezekiel’s Gog and his alliances. These were the same peoples that clung to Hitler; “all the fish of your rivers will cling to your scales” (Ezekiel 38:3).

Haj Amin Al-Husseini, with the Hitler salute, recruiting Turkic Bosnians and Albanians

Black, Indian and oriental Nazi soldiers

This history even hints the type of “wheat” that come from backgrounds we could never have imagined, and the type of tares (Judases) that include professing Jews and Christians who will aid the Antichrist.

This history helps us understand why Christ sends away many who call Him “Lord Lord …” (Matthew 7:22) since these tares stood against His suffering people.

But such suffering is always caused by racism and segregation. Today, most political analysts, historians, geopolitical forecasters, including prophecy analysts, foresee a Muslim Caliphate rising in Turkey—a definite candidate for an Antichrist government—encompassing these same peoples of Hitler’s alliances.

As a parallel to that same history, Turkey with a European alliance, in a joint axis of evil, is not a far fetched theory. We must not discount the possibility of having two persons, that Antichrist can rise from Europe and ally with Turkey’s Gog, or even vise versa with a single person, where Turkey will produce the Antichrist who could also be “Gog”. We could even have separate figures (beast and false prophet and a Gog), yet all three are allied by the same goals.

Therefore, we must be flexible but primarily allow parallel history to interpret. It might be a trio-axis of evil. Ever wonder why in Revelation 16:14 it speaks of two, the “beast” and “the false prophet” who send out “three frogs” to call the nations of the world to battle at Armageddon?

And with Nazism’s Hitler (the beast of that time was Hitler, a fallen Christian) he did not act alone, he had his Muslim henchman (Haj Amin Al-Husseini) who was perhaps a “frog,” Al-Husseini, after all, was sent by Hitler to gather the Muslims from the Turkic regions, calling them to battle, just as we see in Revelation 16:12-14:

And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon that great river Euphrates and dried up the water thereof, that a way might be prepared for the kings from the rising of the sun. And I saw from the mouth of the dragon and from the mouth of the beast and from the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs. For they are the spirits of devils, working signs: and they go forth unto the kings of the whole earth, to gather them to battle against the great day of the Almighty God.

“Kings from the rising of the sun,” the greek uses “anatolē” in the Bible, which is translated “east” is also the same exact word, anatolē for Anatolia (Asia Minor, the Turkic peoples) “the rising of the sun” or “East”; compare “Orient” and “Levant”.  These were the same peoples who Al-Husseini gathered to fight for Nazi Germany (more on that later). We also see separate individuals (beast, false prophet, three frogs and other kings involved). Al-Husseini could even be symbolic of the coming “false prophet” as we shall examine him in detail.

Al-Husseini with Hitler

History matches prophecy and debunks the call for this “cultural uniformity” Christians are falling for. Ever wonder why “cultural uniformity” is preached heavily by populist Christians and ethnic supremacists? Hitler even dangled that same bait we see today, until his armed forces became the most culturally diverse in all of Western history; a truly paradoxical paradigm shift that the ardent liberal would hail as ‘victory of cultural diversity’.

The reason this history of Hitler’s ‘strange amalgamation of races and religions’ was rarely mentioned, was partly that the West did not want to offend Islam. Bringing in to face justice, key Muslim Nazis, like the Grand Mufti, Haj Amin Al-Husseini, to trial for recruiting Turkic soldiers, will upset the Muslim world, especially that Al-Husseini who served the Ottomans, was also a direct descendant of Muhammad, the prophet of Islam himself.

The coming Mahdi also, as Islam insists, must claim that same lineage from Muhammad, could likely be this “false prophet”. Even the historians, they miserably failed to document Nazism’s occult practices, a repackaged Muslim Sufi mysticism, brought into the German political state which came from Turkey.

It was only until the 1980s, that historians began to scratch the surface and dig deeper, removing the blinders caused by the Nuremberg trials, which prohibited submitting any evidence regarding the Nazi occult, fearing that the Nazis would plead insanity.

Al-Husseini (with the Hitler salute) inspecting his Nazi Muslim Bosnian recruits who served Hitler

In fact, it wasn’t just ‘different races’ that entered the Nazi fray, but different religious backgrounds too, entered Hitler’s war machine. All this, completely busts the myth that Nazism’s history was strictly about ‘racial purity’ ‘cultural’ or ‘religious’ superiority.

The first thing Hitler did, was to create a syncretistic cult called “Positive Christianity,” which revamped Germany’s Protestant faith by re-gutting the core theological concepts. He then quickly shifted gears (just as he did with the race issue), utilizing as an instrument of unity, by including all; Muslims, Protestants, Evangelicals, Catholics and even Orthodox Jews.

Keep in mind, the Jew, the Muslim and the Catholic, did not blend into Hitler’s syncretistic form, but was granted to keep his full freedom to practice in his orthodoxy. This of course had one proviso; that he burns incense to the Führer; take his mark (swastika) on his right arm and raise it with the allegiance of Sieg Heil! (Hail Hitler!)

Is it any wonder why some saw Hitler as Antichrist?

Is it any wonder why we see this same religious and racially mixed ‘molotov-cocktail’ already forming with the rise of the Alt-Right, European and slavic neopaganism, including the same syncretistic Christian form, with similar populism, similar Fascism, stemming from even professing Protestants and Catholics? And just as Hitler united these, the Antichrist will have little trouble to gain such alliances.

Viewing this trend, one can bet the farm; the West will soon set the flames of this molotov-cocktail, with Kristallnachts that will dwarf anything we have seen before. And if you think that the problems of violence and beheading are only in Syria and Iraq, you will soon see similar violence erupt throughout the west where “I saw the martyrs who were beheaded in the name of Jesus” is fulfilled. The remnant wheat will refuse to hail another Hitler.

While these new movements avoid using the label “Nazi,” today even the hundreds of dead ideologues who contributed in causing this global catastrophe, are being adored, circulating the same books, sharing the works and the life-stories of the same devils of Mein Kampf, Evola, Freidrick Neitszche, Heidegger, Carl Schmitt, Earnst Von Soloman, Armin Moehler, Darwin’s Eugenics, Stoddard, Oswald Spengler and the list goes on and on. This old beast including the ideologues are being revived, even in the U.S., amongst Christians, where many cling to social media like Breitbart which supports some of these icons.

We can provide hundreds of examples of such revived ideologues, but lets take as a case in point, the Catholic Léon Joseph Marie Ignace Degrelle (1906 – 1994) and the Muslim Brotherhood leader, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin Al-Husseini. Both kept their orthodoxy with the proviso they serve the ‘Antichrist’ Führer.

Hitler with Degrelle. Hitler said to Degrelle ‘If I had a son, I would want him to be like you.’

Their story shows the fine line between wheat and tares (antisemitism and loyalty to the Führer), especially when Al-Husseini infected the holy land, with his viral love for the Nazis, mixing with it, the Ottoman brand of Caliphate fervor, where people in the Holy Land, were fed Ottoman occultism and poverty, which for centuries they have spread throughout the region, and then here comes the descendant of Muhammad (Al-Husseini), to empower it, just as the Mahdi and the rising Caliphate in Turkey will do.

I should have some qualification to discuss this “false prophet” including how Muslims were segregated by him between antisemites and pro-Jew ‘collaborators’ in the Holy Land.

After all, my own grandfather, the Mukhtar (chieftain), Daud Shoebat, was one of the few who escaped the massacre by Al-Husseini, for selling a parcel of land to Jews at Har Homa near Jerusalem.

He was rescued by his father in law (my great grand father), Abdullah Ali Awadallah Shoebat, the top undefeated wrestler at the time. No one wanted to really mess with my great grand father Awadallah after he defeated a Hebron giant twice.

He entered the trial set up by Abdulqader Al-Husseini (Haj Amin Al-Husseini’s relative) who was the leader of the Holy Jihad Organization against the Jews established by the Husseinis.

And just before they got the noose around grandpa’s neck, my great grand father (wrestler Awadallah) argued that it was customary sacrilege to kill a man who dined Al-Husseinis with lavish parties, even on the day of the trial, when Al-Husseini went to arrest him, took advantage of my grand father’s generosity first, to later question him on his land contract with the Jewish National Fund.

In tribal laws, you cannot kill a man after dining from his own table, so my grand father was released and Abdulqader Al-Husseini was killed shortly after by a Jew who sniped him during the battle of Qastal near Jerusalem.

Abdul Qader Al-Husseini, carcass in coffin on the right, soul in hell, without bedroom Jihad with 72 virgins

Hajj Amin Al-Husseini (right) during his service in the Ottoman military after he studied in Istanbul, Turkey

But not everyone was as fortunate during these mock trials, which went on and off between 1936 and 1938 when Al-Husseni’s men executed several dignitaries (Mukhtars) who aided the Jews to acquire land, like Sheikh Daoud Ansari (Imam of Al Aqsa Mosque), Sheikh Ali Nur el Khattib (Al Aqsa Mosque), Sheikh Nusbi Abdal Rahim (Council of Muslim Religious Court), Sheikh Abdul el Badoui (Acre, Palestine), Sheikh El Namouri (Hebron), and Nasr El Din Nassr (Mayor of Hebron).

Many Mukhtars (community leaders) including even their entire families were massacred by Al-Husseni’s henchmen.

It was a massacre to eliminate all who had aided Jews to settle in the Holy Land. This gets to prove that not all ‘Muslims’ were loyal to antisemitism. And while Muslims were massacred for aiding Jews, it was Jew friendly Muslims who also rescued many Jews from the Hebron massacre caused by Al-Husseini.

There is much rarely discussed history, a lesson that things are not what they seem, and how labels meant nothing, where one thinks of a tare and it was wheat, or when one thinks of a wheat, it could be a tare, or where Nazism went beyond race or religion. Wheat was not so easily distinguished from the tares and is why we must not be judge by removing what we believe are tares.

While Catholic Degrelle could be seen by many as ‘wheat’ his work mimics the non-Aryan Al-Husseni (a tare), having carried out similar militant aspirations after joining the Walloon Legion in the Waffen-SS, just as Al-Husseini founded and joined the Muslim Handschar SS Division.

The Walloon Legion (Légion Wallonie) was a collaborationist volunteer unit recruited from Belgium’s French-speaking population in Wallonia and Brussels, while Grandpa’s traitorous buddy, Al-Husseini, aided in recruiting non-Aryan Nazi SS; The Muslim Turkestanische (Turk) Legion, consisting of Muslim volunteers from Central Asia; such as Muslim Turkomans, Muslim Uzbeks, Muslim Kazakhs, Muslim Kyrgyzs, Muslim Karakalpaks, and Muslim Tajiks, and the Muslim Kaukasisch-Mohammedanische (Muhammadan) Legion from Caucasian volunteers; such as Muslim Azeris, Muslim Dagestanis, Muslim Chechens, Muslim Ingushes, and Muslim Lezgins as well as the notorious Muslim Albanian and Muslim Bosnian SS Handschar (dagger division).

In fact, the Muslim Handschar were the first non-Germanic Waffen-SS division, and its formation marked the expansion of the Waffen-SS into a multi-ethnic military force. Composed of Bosnian Muslims (ethnic Bosniaks) with some Catholic Croat soldiers and mostly German and Yugoslav Volksdeutsche (ethnic German) officers and non-commissioned officers, it took an oath of allegiance burning the incense to Hitler and the Catholic Croatian leader Ante Pavelić, who was behind the genocide of nearly half a million Christian Orthodox Serbs.

Here we can already see the milieu of Antichrist’s and Gog’s armies, the same descendants of the biblical Lydia, Gomer, Beit-Togarmah, Meshech, Tubal and Phut, in what will constitute the bulk of Gog’s armies in Ezekiel 38.

These were no “pure race”. This was not “European ethnocentric”. This was no “religious uniformity”. This was no “cultural uniformity”. This was not “anti-Islam” or “Anti-Muslim immigration” or “anti-foreign cooperation”.

The only thing these had in common is what scripture pointed, to take the mark of Antichrist and give allegiance to him.

Therefore, Antichrist collects an amalgamation of ethnicity and religion (even Christians and Jews), but by “hailing” him and “taking his mark on their hands or foreheads,” God considers it worship, just as He considered the burning of incense during Antiochus Epiphanies and the “Hail Caesar” during the Romans, as making a deal with the devil just as it is with “Hail Hitler”.

This was a collective union of history’s Jew hating bastards, who will come again to be vanquished on the hills of Judea. All these had in common was antisemitism and their allegiance to Antichrist Hitler. It was after all a “beast” and a “false prophet” and “three frogs” who gathered the nations to battle at their version of ‘Armageddon’.

Al-Husseini inspecting his Muslim Bosnian recruits

Al-Husseini inspecting his Muslim recruits in Egypt

Nazism did not mind at all uniting with what would seem as strange bedfellows, Al-Husseini (Muslim) and Degrelle (Catholic), Hitler (positive Christianity), this simple example, debunks the myth that Nazism was just about race or religion.

One can see where all this hoopla about “anti-immigration,” “western ethnocentricity,” and spreading the post-Christian so-called “western values” is all going to, after it came out of the abyss.

Even the cult of Nazism is glaringly similar to what we see reviving today, wanting a post-Christian civilization by attaining a none-oriental, pre-Christian western culture and religion. This trend however is completely debunked once we examine the arguments.

Let me explain. If one peruses Nazi occultism (like the claims that Nazism’s occult came from the Tibet) and then ask real historians about such books, they will quickly discover that what they read or watched was utter exaggerations shelved under “cryptohistory” (revisionist pseudo-history).

The Nazi occult came from Rudolf Freiherr von Sebottendorff (1875 – 1945) of the Thule Society, which was hardly western but “oriental” which he imported from the Sufi sect of the Ottoman Empire.

Similar to Al-Husseini’s service to the Ottomans, Sebottendorff became an Ottoman citizen adopted under Turkish law and like Al-Husseini, he fought on the Ottoman-Turkish side in the First Balkan War, to later return to Germany with a Turkish passport exempting him from military service during the First World War because of his Ottoman citizenship.

Sebottendorff, a Freemason convert to Sufi Islam of the Bektashi order, brought in “The practice of ancient Turkish Freemasonry”. This was the spark of oriental occultism in Nazi Germany. Serbottendorff confirmed how his Thule Society was the “first” to ally with Hitler:

“Thule members were the people to whom Hitler first turned and who first allied themselves with Hitler.”

And by that, Serbottendorff built upon and repackaged aspects of Sufi mysticism, giving it a western cloak and directly infused it into the German political state.

And today we find ourselves amidst a revival of the same creeds of Nazism’s ideologue, Alfred Rosenberg’s “Positive Christianity,” which denounced St. Paul for “the destruction of the racial values from Greek and Roman culture”; that “the dogma of hell destroyed the free Nordic spirit”; that “original sin and grace are Oriental,” and not western ideas, which “corrupted the purity and strength of Nordic blood”; that “the Old Testament and the Jewish race are not an exception” and that one “should return to the Nordic peoples’ fables and legends”.

And if in doubt how all this festers western society, just read our Part IPart IIPart III on your leisure

Seeing a similar pattern today, we can gauge counting our fingers to see how many years are left for this to fester. And from then what would be left for the West to completely become fully-fledged apostasy when it introduces the equivalent of Dr. Ernst Bergmann‘s Twenty-five Points of the German Religion, where it proposed that “Jesus was of Aryan origin, and that Adolf Hitler was the new messiah”.

And with that, one can count their toes to see the years left.

So what difference do we have between Islam’s creed and this call for a post-Christian “Western Civilization”? So many Christians fall for this where patriotism is used to easily deceive the Christian masses.

It all amounts to ‘there is no god but Odin and Hitler was his Messenger’. Its either that or ‘God is evolution and Darwin is its messenger’.

Is this message, or the west’s “freedom of religion” worth dying for? Nazism too promised to maintain “freedom of religion” using ambiguous phraseology designed to allow flexibility to maneuver to either persecute or to incorporate whomever they want.

And just as it was then, so it is now; Nazism was not labeled “left-wing” but “conservative right wing”. The German Workers’ Party, which became the National Socialist German Worker’s (Nazi) was the creation of the Thule Society, considered to be a right (not left), Aryan-theosophical organization, and Sufi orientalist in their revamped occult practices .

All this will again test the spirits, defining wheat from tares, to prove that in evil, there is no such thing as strange bedfellows. It is after all devil copulating with devil.

We even have the same lures and attractions set up for European masses to believe that some are ‘true Christians’. Degrelle attracted (and still does) many other ardent Catholics who became disillusioned with government corruption in Belgium forming his own Rexist Party, a Christian renewal movement that called for social justice.

Influenced by extreme fascism, while fiercely anti-Communist, anti-Semitic and anti-elitest, he quickly capitalized on the ethnic tensions within Belgium. He was and still is attractive to many conservative Catholics today. After all, he did many things right during the Cristero War in Mexico, even leading a militant tendency inside the Catholic Party, which he formed around the Éditions de Rex he founded which drew its name from the battle cry of the Cristeros: “Viva Cristo Rey y Santa María de Guadalupe,” alluding to Christ the King.

Nothing of Degrelle’s Catholic faith bothered Hitler, who even once stated he wishes that Degrelle was his own son.

Degrelle was the Nazi version of Ben-Hur. Adopted by the pagan Roman Arrius, in this case Hitler, but Degrelle never reneged to defeat Messala in the arena as Ben Hur ended up collaborating with a Jew loving Arab horse racer and the two partnered to defeat Messala.

Degrelle’s influence is not just history. After he joined the Waffen SS (becoming a leader of its Walloon contingent) combating the Soviets, but after World War II was over, he continued as a prominent figure in fascist movements.

Today’s French young generation, in search of landmarks for recovery dreaming of a Catholic renewal and national fervor, are not inspired by some Judas Maccabee, they are inspired by the Catholic Léon Joseph Marie Ignace Degrelle.

He became the perfect specimen for a Catholicism tainted with a radicalized view of European-pride coupled with “populist” and “ultra-nationalist” fervor.

This spells out a recreated new form of Catholic movement in Europe that is falling away becoming an icon for many populist movements, especially in France.

Take Alain Escada, Shoebat.com regretted interviewing one of their leaders, Francois Xavier Peron. Escada, as it turns out, is known as President of France’s Youth Civitas (FJC), a structure emanating directly from the lefebvrist brotherhood. Xavier Beauvais, the abbot of the lefebvrist church of Saint-Nicolas-du-Chardonnet is officially inspired by none other than Degrelle.

Catholic Civitas are heavily associated with the Catholic SSPX (The Society of Saint Pius X). Civitas leader, Alain Escada, has been working for many years in the nationalist movement, of which the founding leader, Hervé Van Laethem, was Also a faithful degrelliste. A degrelliste pertains to the same Léon Degrelle whom Escada elevates continually.

The lefebvrist founded the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) in 1970, by the French traditionalist Catholic archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. But like any Catholic order, it too has its share of wheat and tares. Antisemitism does not represent the whole of the  SSPX, which clearly and officially and completely denounces and rejects anti-Semitism.

But its founder Lefebvre, either have erred, or was playing Taqiyya, Lefebvre spoke approvingly of the “Catholic order of Pétain“, referring to the Vichy Premier Marshal Philippe Pétain, who was later convicted of treason and collaboration with Nazi Germany.

But lets be charitable, while the SSPX has many decent priests, it also has a small number of anti-Semites. Recently, the SSPX Bishop Fellay took action and dismissed SSPX Bishop Williamson an ardent Holocaust revisionist. And as much negativity I hear of Pope Francis, even he, ended up excommunicating Williamson for his avid anti-semitism and for trivializing the Holocaust. But Williamson is still followed by many who like Degrelle seek the path of the damned.

Nazism is reviving under different labels. The Front National (FN) Marine Le Pen’s concerted effort to dédiabolise (de-demonize) her father, the FN. Jean-Marie Le Pen’s repeated claim that gas chambers in Nazi death camps were simply a “detail in the history of World War II”. Le Pen’s de-demonization campaign, in reality is all a propaganda front to be consumed by the populous minds. But the antisemitic strand of SSPX links right into Front National.

The FN movement is still overtly racist and white supremacist, an inheritor of the historical tradition with Nazism and Fascism, the collaborationist Vichy regime, and the call to exterminate the Jews. The FN still links to two intellectual icons of the historical French extreme-Right, Maurice Barrès and Charles Maurras, which makes the FN a continuation of this ideology. While these express Christian themes of martyrdom, sacrifice and blood, it also emphasize soil, rootedness, historical (Greco-Roman) tradition, fatherland, ultra-nationalism, racism and anti-Semitism. This puts in common Muslims, Identitarian, the Alt-Right, and these ultra-nationalist Christians.

Degrelle saluting Hitler

Many of these are of the devil, no matter what Christian mask they wear, even if they claim to be traditionalist non-Novus Ordo Catholic SSPX, for while these focus on essentials they also ignore other clear biblical instruction.

So what is in common between Haj Amin Al-Husseini with Catholic Degrelle? How can the lefebvrist brotherhood have in common with Muslim Brotherhood? Answer: antisemitism. It was their antisemitism that directed them to Antichrist. This is why there is so much effort to undermine the Holocaust.

And if history repeats (which it will), it becomes crucial we find the historic parallels. Degrelle who breathed the incense honored to the God of Israel, which was transferred to the Gentiles in Malachi 1:10-11, he also chose to burn incense to satan’s favorite son, the führer.

Degrelle and Husseini suckled from the same breast. Al-Husseini too went to Catholic school in Jerusalem run by French missionaries and then to the Catholic Frères, where he learnt French. But he also studied under the anti-Zionist Jewish director Albert Antébi at the Alliance Israélite Universelle.

In summary, Europe is spiraling towards its past. While I do not put much stock in polls, British polling firm YouGov recently found that Europeans are opting to turn their backs on democracy altogether and are becoming open to authoritarian populist politics; France 63 percent with nearly half of Italians and Britons, while Eastern Europe its a whopping 82 percent of Romanians and 78 percent of Poles.

No one really knows how the ball will bounce from here onward, or if some wheat extends over the tares, but one thing is for sure; there is this rising neofascist/neo-Nazi strand of ethnocentrism with a syncretist mix between neopaganism and Christianity.

This is a fast growing phenomenon which will not be easily thwarted. It will soon engulf a third of Christendom. It is definitely not calling itself ‘Nazi’ or ‘Fascist’ but in reality it walks and quacks like one.

While Catholicism was strong during Nazism, today we live in much different times, Pope Frances is no Pope Pius XII, and today’s Catholics have largely been transformed to a watered-down version since Vatican II.

Degrelle was not left un-confronted. That time definitely had its Judas Maccabees. On 25 July 1943, in his native Bouillon, Dean Rev Poncelet ordered Degrelle to leave a Requiem Mass, because he has defiled the sanctuary by wearing his SS uniform, which church authorities had prohibited. His hyde was even tossed out by a Matthias when Bishop of Namur excommunicated him. This was later lifted by the Germans, of course, since as a German officer he was under the jurisdiction of the German chaplaincy.

Everything repeats. Now that my cousin, Ibrahim Awadallah Shoebat is Mufti of Ramallah, to soon inherit this seat (Mufti of Jerusalem), will we not see the same collaboration in the future?

As this anti-Israel Europe grows, we will see the gears shift and encompass Islamist Turkey, into its strange religious amalgamation. This will include neopagans setting their eyes on the Jews once more who escaped the Nazi genocide and corralled in Israel.

Grandpa, like Al-Husseini, he also served the Muslim Ottomans fighting against the British Mandate. He would tell us the stories how life was, while fighting on horseback for the Ottomans. He said at times they scraped meager seeds from the dung of horses to eat during the worst famine in history, when God cursed the Ottomans.

Grandpa gave me a word of advise “grandson, in life, you can generally trust the Christians, but never trust Muslims”. In his time, locusts made the holy land barren, while in my time now, I watch the whole earth becoming a faithless desert, where we have to pick meager seeds out of the dung heap of tares.

On January 18th, 2017, Jordan issued a release in their Ammon (biblically Rabbat Ammon) warning of four considered to be the most dangerous; two Walid’s (Walid Phares, Trump’s consultant, Walid Shoebat, myself) including Nonie Darwish and Muslim moderate Dr. Zuhdi Jasser.

Everything repeats, and the same killers who were after my grand father, are now after me, all for simply giving Jews a morsel of love.

(to be continued next week)

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  • Brenda

    Maybe it’s a good thing history wasn’t one of my bigger interest, It seems like it’s been changed up a lot and we see it daily with media now as proof it can be changed and lied about. It’s hard enough for someone like me to remember so much of it, Then add in to that the fact that so much may not be facts anyhow and then it becomes in some ways a waste of time even trying anymore.

  • I think you meant Jared Kushner (minor misspell). While I always say “blessed are the peacemakers” I also think that the best thing the U.S. can do (including Trump’s son in law) is to leave it be. Keep American hands out of the Middle East, everything they touch in the Middle east goes to crap. I am more interested in what me and you do not agree with since I enjoy critique more than agreement. It helps my refinement.

    • Meagan Truitt

      Ha ha. That’s funny.

    • Nan

      I don’t think Trump is going to meddle in the Middle East, unless you think moving the US Embassy is meddling. He trusts Jared to do the right thing, which I think is to listen to what people have to say rather than take any action.

      • If you look at the comment above, its not about US Embassy.

        • Nan

          You said the best thing to do is leave it be; Trump isn’t leaving the embassy in Tel Aviv and people were threatening him about that even before he was president, therefore, at least some believe that moving the embassy is meddling.

          • richinnameonly

            But the point was that the first comment was about “problems involving Israel and the Palestinians”, not the movement of the embassy.

          • Nan

            But the PA is threatening the peace process over the embassy move and Jordan has also commented. since Palestinians are really Jordanians, that causes problems between them and Israel and. While I realize the peace process is going nowhere and this is just another excuse, that is a problem involving Israel and the Palestinians.

            I don’t have an issue with the middle Eastern countries closing their American embassies, that’s an issue only for the staff, who have to go home then.

    • Brenda

      Amen to staying out of the middle east, I think most Americans basically know nothing about it, and when they do start to find out about it have no idea how much there is to learn once they start either. Maybe that’s why watching TV news became the norm, their too lazy to do the work it would actually take maybe? I actually miss the days when I did NOT know what I do now to be honest, about Islam, Because now my own American brothers and sisters make me feel threatened by ignorance when they refuse to learn anything about it ,and I am probably always going to be stumped about some things, Never able to relate no matter how hard I could try.

  • My question is how do I know I am not swallowing the bait of populism, ethno-nationalism, and every evil under the sun?

    Second question, if being anti-Semitic is the common thread of amalgamation of religions, how would you interpret Trump’s decision to move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem?

    Thanks for the article, it made the wait worth it.

    • Eric

      Trevor, I would suspect that once you are aware of such toxins, you can avoid them. I am very, very careful these days. I think that when one knows what to look for–which Walid is providing for us–it becomes easier to avoid such viruses.

      And as for Trump’s decision to move the Embassy to Jeruselem, isn’t that one of the most Pro-Jewish things that can be done? That sounds like one of the least anti-Semetic things, to me, anyway.

      I think the simplest cure to making sure you never fall to the trap of ethno-nationalisim is this: “There is no Greek or Jew.” That’s it. A shared culture is fine, but when it becomes tied to ethnicity, that is when it becomes dangerous.

      • If we have this nut rule, we’ll all be dead:

        • Eric

          I agree.

        • Brenda

          Oh yes your right about that, Then it’s only a matter of time when if your height isn’t just so your not good enough or your eye color isn’t considered a pure one and on and on. And this has happened even in Africa, One tribe was killing another one over height and some other facial features, It ends up being an never ending snowball, “Never ending wars” even among-st the same race.

          • “even among-st the same race.”

            Exactly. Same races kill each other too. The issue is not race, its error. Here is a debate between Jared Taylor (racist) with liberal professor:

            While I do not agree with liberalism, the professor beats the racist. The conclusion is what you said: races and racists kill each other.

        • Grandmere

          Lord have mercy on us!

          • This crap is spreading big time. In all my life in US I can count the racist remarks I had, 4 times. These days I get 4 racist remarks a day. Its in my view a serious phenomenon.

          • Grandmere

            Walid, I live in the deep south and I rub shoulders with “minorities” every day. Most of them are beautiful, friendly people. I attend church with black, Latino, Asian and Indian people. We love each other. As the former wedding coordinator, I did many weddings where the bride and groom were of different races. Beautiful weddings for beautiful young couples. My parents grew up during the depression in the south but they never tolerated racism – because they were REAL Christians.

      • Grandmere

        Superman knows Kryptonite when he sees it. Well said, Eric.

        • Kamau41

          He does indeed…

        • Eric

          Thank You, Grandmere. I learned how to recognize Kryptonite from my various teachers over the years (My parents, Pastors I’ve had, the Shoebats, and all of you guys). I learned from having great teachers in the Faith. 🙂

      • Kamau41

        “There is no Greek or Jew.” Well said all around Eric.

        • Eric

          Thanks, Kamau. 🙂

      • “And as for Trump’s decision to move the Embassy to Jeruselem, isn’t that one of the most Pro-Jewish things that can be done?”

        It would be an earth shaking event if Trump indeed follows through on one of his promises. As we have discussed privately, Trump has so far shown he is a doer, not just a talker.

        I’m still taking the wait and see approach. Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

        • Eric

          You’re welcome, Trevor.

          I agree that we should wait and see. I hear the move will be announced tomorrow. In the meantime, we should pray for him and the rest of the people in office. It’s our duty not only as Christians, but as citizens, too.

    • Although I stayed away from discussing anything “Trump” in this article, I believe Trump uses populist rhetoric. We must wait and see if his populist rhetoric evolves into populist action. But again, the U.S., as I always said is protected by its Constitution and its government breakdown.

      However, the rhetoric by U.S. President gives green light to European action, not rhetoric.

      As to your question, I could care less if someone immigrates and wants to speak Spanish. He ends up getting small jobs, thats his/her choice.

      Example, my father and mother in laws immigrated from Mexico. They lived for decades without speaking a word of English. There Christian tradition from Mexico got passed down to their kids and the kids remained pretty much virgin till they married. There culture is great and is needed to add to the American culture which tends to be loose. The kids ended up all speaking English and blended in pretty fast.

      People make a big deal about assimilation. To assimilate or not to assimilate, that is the question.

      I could care less about this. To me, to assimilate into this world or not to assimilate into this world. THAT IS THE QUESTION.

      Healthy nationalism give people freedom. It cuts immigration if necessary. But is not racist. It should not provide welfare for immigrants. My father and mother in law never collected a cent from welfare, worked hard, raised their kids well and were law abiding citizens but spoke zero English, just a few words to survive.

      Mexico isn’t the problem, its Christian culture more than the U.S. The problem is the non-Christian cultures. But even though, we must help persecuted heathens at times. Love conquers all.

      • Brenda

        Sometimes the love needs to be tough love though Walid, We cannot go on and on with allowing a few to behave as if they are the victim while they are actually becoming the victimize-rs today, That has to stop and it won’t stop by keeping on with bending over backwards, Then getting slapped in the face for having done it.

      • Eric

        Sir, excellent!

        As for your article, fantastic as usual. I’ll have to read through it again. A lot to absorb and chew on. 🙂

      • “Although I stayed away from discussing anything “Trump” in this article, I believe Trump uses populist rhetoric.”

        My apology for bringing him up.

        “The problem is the non-Christian cultures.”

        Agreed.

        “P.S: as far as Trump “moving the embassy” I NEVER listen to anyone when they “say that they will do”. I wait to see WHEN THEY ACTUALLY DO IT.”

        I agree as well. Action speaks louder than words.

        Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

      • Kamau41

        “I trust NO ONE until they DELIVER.” Absolutely very wise…

      • PaulF

        I agree with what you say, but didn’t Trump do well to appoint an unusually pro Israel ambassador?

    • “My question is how do I know I am not swallowing the bait of populism, ethno-nationalism, and every evil under the sun?”

      Do you believe Jew and Gentile are equal?

      If yes, you graduate, if no, you’re bait.

      “Second question, if being anti-Semitic is the common thread of amalgamation of religions, how would you interpret Trump’s decision to move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem?”

      I don’t interpret what anyone says, I interpret what they do.

      • “Do you believe Jew and Gentile are equal?”

        Yes.

    • AnthonyM

      My .02 is that it is time to move the embassy to their capital Jerusalem. We have held off for years hoping to appease Islam, but it has just emboldened them the more, and delegitimize Israel. Time to lance the boil.

      The press delegitimize Trump all the time, and it is underhanded politics.

      • Nan

        Trump is giving the smackdown.

      • As far as I can see, the talk of the Jerusalem embassy relocation are in the preliminary stage. It remains to be seen if Trump delivers on one of his promises.

        • AnthonyM

          I believe TPP is gone today.

          • It is.

          • Kamau41

            Confirmed!

  • Darren Neufeldt

    Thank you Walid for the article, more to think on and to watch for, I am really enjoying this series of Sunday Specials. I will keep you, and your family in my prayers.

  • Joan Simpson

    I haven’t had time to read it all but what I have read is very interesting.
    I’m wondering what a ‘positive Christian’ is when used of Hitler.
    It is my understanding that Hitler was deeply involved in the occult, eg the Thule Society.

    • Dorothy Margraf

      As is happening now, Hitler said different things to different groups of people. In the book Blood and Banquets the author writes that Hitler was kissing the hands of Jewish women at banquets while hundreds of miles away Jewish store windows were being smashed by the Nazis. Groups and individuals that cause destruction in the physical world should not be counted on to tell the truth. Hitler needed Christian bodies to fight his war. He was not about to tell them that he was dropping Christianity and switching them over to an occult belief system. The German government controlled the money parishes got, so he could control what they would say in most cases. It takes great bravery to go against the crowd.

  • Phil aka Felipe

    Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
    (1 John 5:21)

  • Kamau41

    “History matches prophecy and debunks the call for this “cultural uniformity” Christians are falling for.” Indeed; each passing day, we are definitely seeing this becoming more and more of reality. Love the Ben Hur and Pope Pius XII clips. More than ever, we must continue to row and stick together. Excellent as always….Another very heavy duty Sunday Special commentary reflecting the increasingly dire conditions of our days….

    • You are one of few whom I can confidently say read the article, most others did what they typically do by using the comment section as a cigarette smoking hangout to discuss any other subject.

      • Kamau41

        Thanks Brother Walid! I see it all the time. So many get so side tracked on subjects that is irrelevant to the content of the articles and missed what is really going on.

      • richinnameonly

        I’m no one special, yet I read the articles. My problem, if I can classify it as such, is that I fortunately grasp the overall point but I can get lost in all the names and details you provide to make your point. I don’t have enough time to verify everything you say about all these people, so I have chosen to trust your details if I’m not already familiar with them. But alas, I’m usually in your corner anyway or else I would have moved on long ago. Oh yeah, and you have an honest face. I trust you’re not setting me up to take any bait.

      • Dorothy Margraf

        A very humorous and insightful reply. Happens everywhere.

  • Shane Bass

    Awesome as always, I am enlightened every time these articles are written

  • AnthonyM

    Great Walid. Outstanding work. And it is a badge of honor to be listed in Jordan’s Ammon as ‘dangerous’ for exposing truth. I’m sure you would rather there was no need for the list.

  • RodK1975

    This is precisely why we as Christians need to stay away from “causes”, “movements” and “bandwagons” that are not expressly Christian in nature and that are not church oriented. And then, we still need to have our wits about us and exercise the people in charge of said church movement and who they are associated with. You can tell a lot about a man by whom he rubs elbows with. It’s gotten to where you can’t even trust what’s at church, specifically, the demonic “Interfaith dialog/cooperation” movement. Any so called Christian that believe you can be unequally yoked with non-believers to bring about peace and understanding is deceived and in grave danger…

    • Brenda

      Exactly, I have NO fear of getting into any of these causes and movements, I swear they are all looking and sounding really satanic and demented to me, It’s like they want to make mankind itself into some freaky unrecognizable beast or mixed up animal experiment on purpose while screaming that they deserve some special attention and some kind of love hate relationship for doing it? it’s like they are actually rejecting love and then being angry at anyone else receiving love somehow? Oh pooh I cannot even really explain what I am seeing, It’s and inside out deal though for real.

    • PaulF

      Fully agreed. The ‘interfaith’ movement is authoritatively condemned in Pope Pius XI’s Mortalium Animos. Its revival in the post V2 church has brought terrible destruction into countless millions of lives.
      There is an entry in Fr Gobbi’s book for October 27, 1986, the day of the first Assisi meeting. In it Our Lady says this: ‘Only Jesus Christ can bring you to peace … The attempt to bring together all religions, even those which adore false and lying gods, with the prospect of forming a worldwide religious union for the defense of human values, is vain, dangerous and not in conformity with the desire of my Immaculate Heart.’
      This declaration of the Mother of God among her revelations to Fr Gobbi is all the more remarkable because she always refers to Pope John Paul II in terms of the highest praise, and she does not refer to him here by name, but as you can see she roundly condemns the Assisi meetings and the ‘interfaith’ movement to which they belong.

  • Kevin Nicholson

    “When the thousand years are complete, Satan will be released from his prison, and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to assemble them for battle. Their number is like the sand of the seashore.…”
    Revelation 20:7-8

    This further judgement is after the destruction of the beast and false prophet.
    Rev 19:20-21

    Walid, please explain this threshing of the wheat in your 1st day of the week tutorials.

    For “The wicked are not so, But they are like chaff which the wind drives away. Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment, Nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous.…Psalm 1:4

    • I am afraid I do not understand your question Kevin.

      • Kevin Nicholson

        10-4 Walid.

        Restate: please explain satan’s 1000 year imprisonment, release, 2nd failed mass attack on Jerusalem in Rev 20.

        Is this event literal (separate by 1000 years) or some how concurrent with the destruction of the anti-Christ in Rev 19?

        Godspeed….

        • PaulF

          I wish I could answer that question. Better, I wish Walid would answer it.
          My opinion for what it is worth is that it is a thousand years, because otherwise the text gets trivialized. If I’m right, then we are far from the Final Judgment but not necessarily far from the terrible Day of the Lord.
          But I’m far from certain about it.

          • Kevin Nicholson

            Thank-You PaulF.
            Will keep studying to better understand.
            God bless….

  • Paul Doyle

    As usual, an awesome article full of insight. Thank you, Brother Walid!

  • Craig A. Mouldey

    If it is righteous and good, praise and support it. If it is evil oppose it.

  • Julie LaBrecque

    Since you brought it up, here is another German and Freemason ‘connection’.
    (Letter to Pope Pius IX from Gabriel Moreno)
    “I wish to obtain your blessing before that day, so that I may have the strength and light which I need so much in order to be unto the end a faithful son of our Redeemer, and a loyal and obedient servant of His Infallible Vicar. Now that the Masonic Lodges of the neighboring countries, instigated by GERMANY, are vomiting against me all sorts of atrocious insults and horrible calumnies, now that the LODGES are secretly arranging for my assassination, I have more need than ever of the divine protection so that I may live and die in defense of our holy religion and the beloved republic which I am called once more to rule.”

    García Moreno’s prediction was correct; he was assassinated in the steps of the National Palace in Quito,[11] struck down with knives and revolvers, his last words being: “¡Dios no muere!” (“God does not die!”). Faustino Rayo assaulted him with several blows of a machete, while three or four others fired their revolvers.[12][13]

    On August 5, shortly before his assassination, a priest visited García Moreno and warned him, “You have been warned that your death was decreed by the Freemasons; but you have not been told when. I have just heard that the assassins are going to try and carry out their plot at once. For God’s sake, take your measures accordingly!” [14] García Moreno replied that he had already received similar warnings and after calm reflection concluded that the only measure he could take was to prepare himself to appear before God.[15]

    “It appears he was assassinated by members of a secret society,” observed a contemporary review of public events.[16]

    Gabriel Garcia Moreno received Last Rites just before he died. Pope Pius IX declared that Gabriel Garcia Moreno “died a victim for the Faith and Christian Charity for his beloved country.”
    Your article was fabulous – loved to learn of your familial connections to history – am sorry (but glad) to see you made Jordan’s _hit list. We will double-down on prayers for you and your household. As regards what happened to Gabriel Moreno – Trump is in the SAME exact position – trying to rid corruption from respective country’s government – hence, the left will ……..I will leave that left unsaid.

    • Great report and an excellent addition. Indeed Germany is the head of the snake. Theo kept reminding me of this and added much to the little that I know.

  • ezekiel22

    European populism has always existed in many forms and times. Generally speaking I file that under tribalism which up to a certain point is normal human behavior. Your examples were definitely past the normal paths of human actions. The common thread is anti-jewishness as arabs are semetic too. The devil hates God’s people and loves to create confusion. He has been doing a great job.
    Satan has fertilized the ultra-nationalist movements that focus less on love of country and more on “others”. The enemy could be anyone. We have that in the U.S. as you know and it was helped tremendously by obama. I am glad that you pointed out the ills in both the Catholic and non-Catholic sides of the Christian faith. That means that each one of us must stay on our knees praying and staying humble lest we should be deceived. That is also besides studying which we should already be doing. If we do this then we will not be deceived. You see the Holy Spirit resides in and teaches us as well as warns us. He does a great job! By this you will know that you are my disciples. That you love one another. Satan has an ego and wants all the credit for himself and his co-workers are no different.
    In the U.S. we have this Alt-Right movement that people like to pigeonhole everyone that does not follow the godless progressive movement. What they do not point out is that the left uses the exact same methods that Fascist/socialists like Hitler used in the past. Even Erdogan has used the same tactics. Castro still uses them as well. My point is that the devil is busy on all fronts against all who follow Christ.

  • Thanks for letting us know.

  • ace

    OT, but the whole earth is certainly rocking and reeling these days: http://www.emsc.eu/Earthquake/world/M4/

  • Brenda

    He meant in general and statistically, yes they would be more christian believing and more committed to it than we are in numbers. I wasn’t raised Catholic and can say some I met were more devoted in their actual doing it and living it, more so than talking or preaching about it, Such as having more kids, not divorcing over minor things, hell sometime major for that matter, and I think that abortion has been generally more acceptable here as well. Not saying they were more capable of being perfect, some were far from that, But practicing was still more evident.

  • Raph Sebastian

    Welcome home! May you be richly rewarded with fullness of faith and may the LORD continue to shine His countenance upon you and your household.

  • Julie LaBrecque

    Congrats – we love hearing of those who come to knowledge of the truth – the whole truth. Mark Twain once quipped that it is easier to fool a man than it is to convince a man that he has been fooled – I know how true this is, particularly when dealing with JW’s and SDA’s – we hope to hear more of your input as the Day approaches – and thanks for your service to the country.

  • Why ask what I think when I have expressed what I think more than 50,000 times?

    “Do you think the Christian civilization that once existed in Europe be totally abandoned?”

    Look at your question and how its constructed. It is like saying “Do you think that the tree that once existed (according to your analogy its gone) in the garden should be totally abandoned”?

    I don’t know, you tell me.

  • You are correct. I took that photo out. Thank you.

  • “Mr. Shoebat! I have been following you for some time now, sir.”

    Followed by a cop makes me want to surrender, my hands are up 😉

    “As a civilian police officer and a military analysts I too see the signs more than the average person. The bible says that even the most elect will be deceived…how true that is!”

    I love cops. They tasted enough bitter herbs that it does not take much for them to see reality. Speaking to cops during my work was a favorite experience. Now that they are persecuting (as you know these days cops are target) we can see how the world is degrading.

    “I was once a Seventh Day Adventist and drank the cool aide”

    Yes, but now that you have drank the red pill, God will use all the past manure for His glory.

    “I am now a Catholic”

    Praise be to God. Always remember though, that the devil is after the Catholic church. When it falls, just rewind back to when it did not fail, and apply the history of its great works.

    “and because of you I was able to find the truth by searching ALL the bible.”

    Great. Catholics have analyzed the Bible before Luther had his diapers.

    “God bless you in all the work that you are doing.”

    And bless you too my new officer friend.

    “I believe we are witnessing the end times happening in a faster pace than I could have imagined.”

    Give it a decade, two, or three, no one knows. I just wish that I can rewind back and remind Americans what Nazis and Japan did. They forget so quickly to even adapt some of that ugly dark times to the American society.

    “Keep up the great work, sir!”

    You do the same.

    “We need a new “prophecy” from you on You Tube as well…I have worn out all the others.”

    I stopped using Youtube because Youtube always deletes my works while they keep the works of the Nazis:

    https://www.youtube.com/results?q=1488&sp=SADqAwA%253D

    “God bless and keep the faith…He will be here soon!”

    Amen. Christus Vincit.

  • Juan

    Sufism will be the key to unite esoteric groups from East and West under Neo-ottoman power against the Church.

  • Kamau41

    You have totally missed understood his article and took everything out of context. Re-read his article again very carefully.

  • Grandmere

    It is so good to have you here. I was just reading today about the dire shortage of priests in Brazil. We need to pray for more vocations to the priesthood and for your priests who are carrying a heavy load. God bless them.

  • Dorothy Margraf

    I hope you are looking into the information I posted about the picture.

  • Julie LaBrecque

    We would all agree. The United States celebrates death every day with level abortion.

  • Can you perhaps tell us something we do not know? Maybe find the missing other half that belongs to your argument which you do not see or know about?

  • It looks like you are persuading some in your family, while I am sure others will reject. However, you are planting good seed. As far as speaking I have cut down tremendously after 3000 or so flights nearly killed me. The best way is to read the blog and perhaps you can join us at the comment section where at times you will see I am crude with some and gentle with others. I am sure a cop will understand at times you deal with certain people in one way and other people in another way.

    Stay in touch.

  • Samson,

    You must have drank the red pill. What happened to you. You must have grown your hair much longer than before. Yes, I do have some red flags, but it is balanced. Perhaps we can talk about it.

  • Peter,

    Are you saying that incense is not incense in Malachi? Here we will then enter into the tangible versus the abstract. Indeed you might have read a book. Is it by Barfoot? If so, it is not good book. Ignoring the tangible and interpreting by using abstract caused tremendous problems throughout history. For your sake, we will do a 30 page writ on this and then discuss. Thank you for the dialogue. I love it.

  • If you examine it says that the Arab will not have his tent there and if you look closely it says that “the sound of her destruction is heard at the RED SEA”.

    This says it all including Isaiah 21 which clearly calls Babylon “Arabia”.

  • Ozlem the Turk,

    You need to rewrite your comment by including exact quotes from what I stated instead of making general claims. You say I do not provide sources when I do provide clear links.

    Do your homework then get back to me.

    I put photos of Hajj Amin Al-Husseini and Degrelle. Now go and look up these names with Hitler and you can read books about them, so please, do not write stupidities. Anyone can easily google these names and see.

    • Raph Sebastian

      As usual instead of refuting the article he attacks you. This is the standard operating procedure or modus operandi of those who hate that truth is being laid out to bare.

      Those who hate truth will always attack the messenger and not the truth in the message.

    • An Erdogan butt kisser he is.

      Sad.

    • Ozlem Olgun

      Ozlem Olgun, not The Turk is my surname that’s disinformation 1

      I didn’t see any link in your essay. Can you send me all of them that show your information originated from to see in their place,please in your response
      Don’t comment me, I’m not your slave and you’re not the Lord

      As you put photos of Hajj Amin Al-Husseini and Degrelle and others, you should have given the sources to follow instead of telling what I do or not
      I don’t trust your words after reading things that I knew very well
      Don’t put ppl in fool situation by producing hate speech/messages amongst you and us
      I don’t mention how Turks were forced to change their name&religion into Christianity in 1989, and following years, Serbians started to oppress on Muslims& then secular Bosnians.
      We should take lesson from our bad experiences to live & rest in peace without provoking ppl by using those

      Please, show if there’s our wrong application on you with proof against Quran, we’ll correct it asap as Muslims inshaAllah
      I know who obeys Satan by insulting humankind on the earth very well
      Our duty is to make humanbeings be free from this kind of evilish things such as feeling hate, killing each other..etc
      You can be Christian/Jewish or godless that’s your choice, I respect until bothering me.
      Please,don’t bother us anywhere by increasing hate between you and us
      Spread love amongst all humanbeings as Jesus wish
      Be in peace, wassalam

      • “Ozlem Olgun, not The Turk is my surname that’s disinformation”

        If you focus (which you intentionally don’t) you would have quoted me EXACTLY. I never wrote “The Turk” by itself what I wrote was “Ozlem the Turk”.

        This is CORRECT, your name is Ozlem and you ARE a “Turk”.

        And again, you failed to follow instruction on proper critique. I have told you already “You need to rewrite your comment by including exact quotes from what I stated instead of making general claims. You say I do not provide sources when I do provide clear links.”

        The links are in BLUE and you failed to show a single incorrect statement. This is all I asked you to show. Give the incorrect statement and lets see your claim. Have you done this? NO.

        Now you are complaining about the photos? Do a reverse photo search and see, they come from legitimate sources. Are you denying that this is Haj Amin? Google Haj Amin and see for yourself the thousands of photos from legitimate sources.

        And then instead of doing this simple task, you go on with “I don’t mention how Turks were forced to change their name&religion into Christianity in 1989, and following years, Serbians started to oppress on Muslims& then secular Bosnians.”

        Is this the subject we are discussing? You want to get into this where I respond with all the atrocities the damned Turk did? Your people were nothing more than locusts who ruined everything green, causing more famine in the fertile crescent since biblical times. If you do not like facts, go khazouk yourself. After all, you invented the Khazouk.

        I thought you Turks are a brilliant people.

        You talk about spreading peace? Your Erdogan is changing the laws equating a journalist with terrorist. Pretty soon he will khazouk you too. And now you want to defend Al-Husseini who copulated with Hitler as your grand fathers copulated with Hitler as well? Piss off and go and seek forgiveness for every Armenian your people murdered and raped.

  • You need to rewrite your comment by including exact quotes from what I stated instead of making general claims and your minimization of the rise of populism, neopaganism and neo-fascism, Identitarean and Alt-Right is rather funny. We have written several article on these and you are welcome to go to these articles, quote us and refute.

  • To play it on the safe side I will remove it. Thanks you Dorothy.

  • Brother Peter,

    Our discussion is not on tradition. Its on the Bible. Malachi clearly speaks of incense. You interpret this as “prayer” and I don’t. You brought up Malachi 1.

    Is this our discussion?

    One of us is wrong but which one, is it Peter or Walid. I’ll keep an open mind to your argument. Its that simple. Lets keep it kiss.

    If you view is that this is allegoric, no real incense, I argue that this interpretation is the type of disaster that caused a huge mess between interpreting the tangible (which I hold to) versus the abstract (which is what you hold to). One should never allegorize a literal and literalize an allegory. The same goes for “Altar” which many Evangelicals interpret allegorically.

    Once we complete our analysis, you are welcome to refute. In fact, I would love it.

    I honestly did not realize that the book you were referring to was by you until now as I looked at your name. Meant no insult. However, it has very few hits on google and practically no reviews on Amazon (just two).

  • Grandmere

    Tom Horn believes Rome is the seat of Satan. He’s now a well known nut.

  • Fair analysis. I myself, Walid Shoebat, am more critical of Mr. Shoebat 😉

  • Grandmere

    Ibrahim Karagul, you need to drop your talk about disinformation. You speak with a carrot in one hand and a club in the other. We all know that you are hateful against us. You are not fooling anyone here. Go write an op-ed at Salon.com. They will kiss your butt from Washington to Istanbul.

    • SNAP!!!

    • Стефан Евгений

      The schmoe voted himself up, LOL!

      • Grandmere

        That’s exactly what Ibrahim would do! I knew it was him. ROFL

      • Grandmere

        Using an old thread here. If you look at our recent thread you will find a New Age expert threatening walid that she will quit commenting if he doesn’t publish more info that “someone took down”, Interesting isn’t it how they get all puffed up when they don’t get the attention they crave.

        • Стефан Евгений

          I blocked that dog with a pipe, i don’t wish to deal with a total asshat

  • John,

    I have written on this type of harlotry here:

    http://shoebat.com/2013/07/03/israels-sanhedrin-ready-to-accept-islamic-mahdi/

  • Thank you brother Salles,

    You are correct about Brazil which has littler contact with Islam. My cousin however, the Mufti of Ramallah and the Ground Zero Mosque imam have toured that region to begin an Islamization process and with Erdogan, this soon will be coming your way.

    Glad that you noticed the difference between truth seeking and bigotry which I run into daily. I was always the type that believed if you give me a fact and I give you a fact, we each have two facts. But if you give a fact to a lazy servant, he will not appreciate it and is how you can recognize the lazy servant.

    I listen to everyone and filter fact from fiction.

    Would love to stay i touch and if you have an idea to do an interview about we would love to Skype with you and post it. That is, if you are up to it.

  • “I go to a men’s Bible study on Friday morning. About 14 fat old men. (I fit right in) These guys are seasoned Christians”

    Fat and seasoned? They are probably seasoned with salt and pepper. You need to add some cayenne to make them seasoned to our standards 😉

    “Now they want me to teach them Bible prophecy concerning the end times, especially with regard to Islam, Turkey and the anti-Christ.”

    Great, I have given you all the cayenne pepper necessary.

    ” I may need your help.”

    No problem, I have extra cayenne pepper.

    “On another note, I am working with the Weld County Commissioners here in Greeley to make a sister relationship between the Shomron and Weld County. I am working with Yossi Dagan, the governor of the Shomron, to make it happen. The leftists in Boulder, Colorado adopted Nablus as their sister city a few weeks ago.”

    You are always looking for trouble. Just make sure no one clips your hair.

    “Tell everyone we said hi.”

    Same to you and your lovely wife.

  • Dan

    Walid you continue to be one of the most interesting persons I know of and after all of this you are truly a humble man Walid. If you keep this up your readers knowing who you are ;will be too intimidated to challenge you.

    God Bless Brother!

  • “President Trump says he will do something, he’ll do it!”

    He said that he will put Hillary in jail. He later changed his mind. He said he will deport illegal Mexicans, he changed his mind. He said he will drain the swamp. No draining of swamp. You said you worship Trump because he is perfect, I say give it a couple of years and you will worship someone else. I say that my response will make you upset at me, you will say “yes indeed”.

  • Peter,

    No one said that you are ‘agnostic’. You are Protestant and protestants reject certain physical elements. You reject the text is speaking of actual incense.

    The problem with getting books is security which I can’t explain. Now you have given your accomplishments, but accomplishments and opinion/interpretation are two separate issues here. Perhaps you might want to simply give us Malachi 1:10-11 interpretation and we go from there. Lets not complicate this.

  • Great. I was more interested in Brazil, perhaps the spiritual struggles, I hear there is lots of occult, violence and such. Or pick any subject of your interest but we like to report on foreign situations in your homeland. Take your time. When the subject arises, correspond with us.

  • “I wouldn’t necessarily call Molyneux a nut”

    You are correct, he’s not a nut, he is an evil maniac.

  • For me to find the article I would have to search it on Google. I have thousands. Just plug the words on Google with “Shoebat” and peruse because I do not understand your question.

  • Well just watch Theo’s last debate with Sellner where Sellner begged not to air it. Its pretty much the same thing. This whole IQ and Eugenics thing has been debunked a million times over. Its just that we have millions of stupid people who did not learn from history and they are gulping up old psuedo-sceintific regurgitating all over again.

    Here, you can listen to Jared Taylor get creamed by a regular professor:

  • “I’ll convey messages to Ibrahim Karagül”

    Great, tell him to Khazouk himself as well.

    • Grandmere

      Five snaps up in a circle!

  • Grandmere

    Hey Ibrahim. Have you submitted this to Yeni Safak yet?

  • Great. There is enough to chew on. Let us know the best time to do an interview, time and Skype address.

  • Both. Prophecy jumps from short to long term.

  • Grandmere

    Sorry Ibrahim. You are not the servant of Allah. You are the slave of Allah. That’s what your book says. Slaves don’t have a free choice. I don’t need you to relay messages to yourself. But you can relay a message to your Caliph Erdogon. “You can’t fool all the people all of the time.”

  • “The reality of Malachi 1:10-11 is the worship of God through Jesus Christ, Walid.”

    You see Peter, the statement above is the type of strike of a pen which says this, “since The reality of Malachi 1:10-11 is the worship of God through Jesus Christ” then everything else that is said afterwards must therefore be true?

    Is this true:

    “Christians do have an altar that those who serve the temple have no right to eat. That altar, the body of Jesus, is in heaven. No props needed on earth. No stage. No officiating priest.”

    You forgot one crucial physical element, the Eucharist. So would you say “No props needed on earth. No stage. No officiating priest. No EUCHARIST”?

    And to put it your way “Do you need a piece of bread in your act of worship”?

    I could allegorize the Eucharist just as you allegorized the Altar and your pillars will crumble.

    Which the bottom line comes to this: the only people this interpretation is directed at is the apostolic succession for if it was directed at the Protestant, they too must not focus on church, pastor, guitars, drums, disco tech lights, communion trays …

    You do not mind these, but you do mind ONLY “the incense” because it is completely foreign to only your type of worship. Heck, if what you say is true, then we ought to remove EVERYTHING including the crucifix and the Eucharist. Would you remove these two? Its a Yes or No answer. So what will your answer be?

    But then there is even a bigger more major problem with your view. The church has always had incense from time immemorial. So here is my question: name me a church from the first to the fifteenth century that did not have incense? It is a simple question. If you can’t name that church, then this means that all the theologians missed the correct interpretation until the Evangelical came along? Would you state that only the Evangelical got it right and the ENTIRE church got it wrong for fifteen centuries? Again, its a Yes or No simple answer.

    Incense has been employed in Christian worship since antiquity. So now the Eastern Christian churches, the Roman Catholic Church/Eastern Catholic, Coptic, Ethiopian … and even Anglican and Lutheran Churches are all of the sudden WRONG? Again, its a Yes or No answer.

    And here is my second question: did Jesus fail to “build His church” which He promised to do and for fifteen centuries it was built wrong and only until the Evangelical corrected the system?

    Even the Book of Worship of The United Methodist Church calls for incense in the Evening Praise and Prayer service.

    “Christians do have an altar that those who serve the temple have no right to eat. That altar, the body of Jesus, is in heaven. ”

    Okay, so the “altar” according to you is the “body of Jesus in heaven”.

    Lets chew on this.

    Chuck Smith says “the altar he has in mind is the cross”. You say “its the body of Jesus in heaven” and I can give you a multitude of contradicting interpretations from FF Bruce to Stedman. So which one of these is WRONG? Tell us.

    And then even compounding the problem, why would the Jews have no right to spiritually feed on Jesus or the old rugged cross?

    Keep in mind the verse says “We have an altar from which the priests in the Tabernacle have no right to eat.”

    In other words, Paul says “we too have a sacrificial altar where none of the Jews at the Temple are NOT permitted to partake in.”

    And if we use your analogy, why would the Jews have no right to approach Christ in heaven?

    Tell us? We are all ears.

    And if I may compound the difficulties may I ask: why isn’t communion “spiritualized”?

    And by the time you un-spirtualize communion, you would have to research scripture where it compound your problem to only find out that the Eucharist is a perpetual sacrifice.

    • Grandmere

      He totally misquoted that verse about the altar. If he doesn’t even know what the verse said, how can he interpret it? These people drive me nuts.

      • Its applying sophism. To say something, then reverse it and complicate it. He says that the verse is not allegoric but then he applies and completely allegoric interpretation and borrows unrelated verses while forges the other crucial verses that in Daniel, Christ warned that Antichrist stops the sacrifice. Therefore, to say that the “sacrifice” pertains to the saint’s suffering would beg the question, how does the Antichrist stop the sacrifice [saints fro suffering]? The only way that Antichrist can stop the saints from suffering is to going the Antichrist. This would make his interpretation as sophism. If anything, sophism is a sin.

  • Can you make your argument without having me read links?

  • “give President Trump those few years and you will certainly, I think, be singing a different song”

    From your mouth to God’s ears. I love Trump, but I am also a realist, he can’t do everything.

    Thanks for the kind response.

  • “The wall WILL be built. Deportations WILL begin. The embassy WILL be moved. Drain the swamp is taking place.”

    Okay okay. Everything will happen as you prophesied. The only part that I predict will not happen is that years from now that you will not return to this comment and jot a line which says “I told you so”.

    Lets see if you will remember years from now.

  • Стефан Евгений

    It’s simple Greek, and i was taught to read the bible in Greek. The English word priest comes directly from (πρεσβύτερος) presbúteros meaning elder or old man and they act as a leitourgos ( λειτουργός) it amazes me the gymnastics on proper translation.

  • Bless you too sister Gloria.

  • Sorry but links are not allowed.

  • Ok, Demirtaş is a liar, Erdogan tells the truth, I lie and you tell the truth and you are an excellent person.

    Anything else I might help you with?

  • Actually I am her servant. She works the cash register and I serve the falafel sandwiches.

    • Grandmere

      Cha-Ching!

  • Ok, you are servant of Allah, slave of Allah, Ozlem Olgun, a Turk, your not Ibrahim.

    Be in peace wassalam.

    Anything else I can help you with? Falafel sandwich?

    So what do you guys eat over there that is equivalent to Falafel? Kebab on a Khazouk skewer?

  • I should have warned brother Peter, when you discuss issues with a “Palestinian” expect he gives you a headache 😉

  • Grandmere

    When Elijah had his famous showdown with the prophets of Baal on Mt Carmel the people surely knew by their senses of sight, hearing and smell that God was present.

  • Peter,

    I never said you were “shrinking” and neither did I demand much. My questions where I have “?” should be fairly easy, its mostly just a “Yes” or “No”. It does not need a long response. However, would be interested to learn about the oldest church in Britain. Are you speaking of the church under Lucius of Britain?

    If so, its pretty much legend. If not, I would like to examine. Just a heads up.

    I am not disillusioned by the church in America. There are lots of great American Christians. One named Peter Barfoot comes to mind. He told me of his great expeditions.

    Looking forward for your reply.

  • And what “love” would you like us to “spread” great and respected Olgun effendi, healer of souls and delight of the hearts, the outstanding Vizier of his times?

    Did your history show love by invading Christendom? Did Erdogan show love by imprisoning journalists? I fear that you should remain in the West lest you be harmed in the East your majesty.

    “Don’t bother me with your disinformation ”

    I did not bother you at all O great one. You were the one who entered my abode. You took the magic lamp and rubbed it three times awaking me from my slumber. And now that I am in your humble service you are complaining. You have three wishes. But there are three provisos: I do not raise the dead, I cannot provide you with whiskey and I cannot get rid of Erdogan from office. The latter you need to do on your own.

    “showing your primary sources,hopefully”

    The primary sources are in the links effendi. I kept saying this till I am blue at the face. I even asked you to show me the quotes where you felt there were inaccuracies effendi, but his majesty refuses to show and reveal the supposed misquotes.

    May the Almighty bless you affendi

  • O great Vizier,

    “your claim is unbelievable”

    Are you saying that Haj Amin Al-Husseini was a great guy? How about Hitler? Was he great as well?

    Are you saying that the Almighty did not hit the Ottomans with a great famine?

    Exactly what are you complaining about effendi? Can you perhaps be specific?

    May the Almighty bless you with many children, a fruitful marriage and may He bless you with many cattle, sheep and horses too.

  • Dorothy Margraf

    I read and reread the articles and have kept up with the comments in this series. The articles have been able to foresee the the future by analyzing the present. I feel I’ve seen the same future but through another set of binoculars called understanding what New Age planning has been promoting for the last 100 years. I’ve encouraged many to read the series. It is just difficult for me to take what is seen through New Age binoculars and put the information into the context of what is happening in the Muslim community and specifically as seen through Christianity.

    Under the conditioning of New Age planners, many think they see a contrast between liberal planning and conservative desires, and they believe they are getting a leader who sponsors conservative ideals. Yet, nowhere across the political spectrum are individuals encouraged to know the specifics of what is going on. “I think, I know, I believe, I feel” replace “I have learned.” The first four come about by the information presented to them which they accept as truth. Populist support of authoritarian control accepts the idea that authoritarianism is the only possible political control and they will work to replace a liberal authoritarian system with one of their own.

    Under New Age conditioning, individuals have been trained to be self-centered, so when the new authoritarian uses the term “we”, they assume the individual is talking about all group members who think as they do. They never ask “Who is this we” and does everyone in the “we” group think exactly the same as them. The authoritarian leader does not speak in specifics, and they emotionally are trained not to ask questions which might dispel the euphoria.

    Under New Age conditioning looking for others to speak with becomes very difficult. There are no neutral discussion possibilities. Talking with a supporter of let’s call it conservative ideals, either one has to agree totally to the perfection of those ideas or the generalized “I’m not a supporter but..” or be accused of being a leftist. The same when encountering a leftist supporter. Agree totally or be accused of being a retarded conservative. The only publicly third acceptable choice is to keep quiet and listen. “We” never includes individuals who are allowed to think for themselves. Good people are not to disagree with the leader provided for them. The authoritarian leadership really doesn’t give a damn what citizens think. They just have to do enough to keep unrest down. We can’t ignore what New Age is basically about…control on the way to end results.

  • Ozlem,

    “You produce hate speech/messages to cause the hatred crime amongst you and us”

    Now you are being unfair. Had you closely read the article you would find the following:

    “It was a massacre to eliminate all who had aided Jews to settle in the Holy Land. This gets to prove that not all ‘Muslims’ were loyal to antisemitism. And while Muslims were massacred for aiding Jews, it was Jew friendly Muslims who also rescued many Jews from the Hebron massacre caused by Al-Husseini.”

    Now is that spreading hate? No. But you simply wanted to label me as a hater. Nonsense.

    As far as me attacking your people that is also not fair and in fact is slanderous. Exposing Erdogan’s evil is defending your people.

    Now you are not being nice. You need to spread love not hate.

  • Dorothy Margraf

    In these troubling times we need to hear information of this kind, information encouraging us all to be courageous in the face of a powerful enemy.

    This comment appeared in an ABC news story about elderly survivors visiting Auschwitz 75 years after liberation.
    “Albania was the only country in Europe where the number of the Jews during World War II increased after the Muslim majority population provided refuge to Jews fleeing other countries.” From another article: “The fascist occupiers tried to deport Jews from Albania, too, but the population refused to surrender the Jews living in their country. Even members of the Albanian government pitched in, providing Jewish families with forged documents.” and “Between 1938 and 1945, more than 70 percent of the Albanian population was Muslim, the remaining 30 percent was Orthodox or Catholic. The ratio led to a great deal of interreligious tolerance, Schmidt-Neke said. The willingness to help persecuted Jews ran across the social, religious and political spectrum, he said, adding, “There were people who worked with the communist resistance that saved Jews as well as those who cooperated with the occupiers while they hid Jews in their homes.”

  • It seems that you went roundabout from allegory to claiming non-allegory then went back to allegorize. Two statements stand in your explanation which I need to address:
    “You [Walid] believe this “pure offering” to be the Eucharist offered in the Roman Catholic Church, the offering of the Sacrament. I believe it to be incense in various forms: that of worshipful prayer in the main, but also acts of sacrificial giving and service.”
    So you say “sacrifice” is “prayer”, I say its “Eucharist”. Your grave error is that you switched up the verses to link Malachi’s incense with “sacrifice”. Indeed, incense resembles “prayer” but NEVER “sacrifice”.
    In fact in your own statement you differentiate between the two:
    “The coals that supplied the golden altar of incense were taken to it from the altar of sacrifice. This relates to the sacrifices of those who had been persecuted.”
    Indeed, the persecuted kept the sacrifice which Antichrist prohibited and their “prayers” went up to heaven, but what is this “sacrifice”? First of all, lets put the text as written in scripture:
    “Oh that there were one among you who would shut the gates [no more temple sacrifices], that you might not uselessly kindle fire on My altar! [no burnt offering, temple is no more] I am not pleased with you,” says the Lord of hosts, “nor will I accept an offering from you. For from the rising of the sun even to its setting, My name will be great among the nations [gentiles, not Jews], and in every place [literal] incense [symbolizes prayer]is going to be offered to My name, and a grain offering [sacrificial offering, communion] that is pure [perfect]; for My name will be great among the nations [gentiles],” says the Lord of hosts. (Malachi 1:10-11)
    On a side note, Scripture is interpreted inductively and it is not some ‘private’ interpretation. In fact, I had asked you to show us where in history your interpretation was valid? I can show throughout history mine is. You failed to respond to the question (you stated that Britain had a church before what you termed as “pagan” Rome. You never provided that after I warned you its legend. Do you still believe your assertion to be true?
    Back to topic. This same process above is referred to by Christ and Daniel when Antichrist “put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering” that such an event is so crucial that it signals the countdown of His return.
    And here is your major flaw. To say “the sacrifices of those who had been persecuted” becomes meaningless here. How can Antichrist STOP Christians from such sacrifice? Their mere rejection of Antichrist’s stopping the sacrifice is in itself “sacrifice” and for Antichrist to stop this “sacrifice” would mean that they would join him. So “sacrifice” can never relate to persecution as you are alluding to here. Your connect between revelation and Malachi is therefore incorrect.
    So answer this then: can Antichrist STOP us from our sacrifice to prefer persecution over obedience to him? You can’t answer this. It’s a Jesus-style question.
    Why is this “grain offering” called “sacrifice”?

    To Christ, such a warning was very crucial “that when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet” where Antichrist “will suspend [both] the sacrifice and grain offerings” (Daniel 9:27) which is the Communion of Bread Sacrifice that Christ warned in Mark 13:14, Matthew 24:15, to pay attention to Daniel 9:27.
    Is “sacrifice” and “grain offering” all allegoric for “prayer” and “persecution”?
    Christ then does not view “grain offering” (communion) lightly. He views it as a timeless “sacrificial” offering and is why Antichrist wants to abolish it.

    In fact, the Old Testament passover puts a nail in the coffin making the Eucharist an eternal observance. How else can we explain:

    “And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.” (Exodus 12:14)

    Do we suffer persecution forever? No. We observe this “mystical” sacrifice forever. Yes.

    Once you have the right pieces, everything fits, like a glove. I have history to support my view:

    St. Ignatius (110 A.D.) had no doubts that:
    “[heretics] abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the Flesh of Our Savior Jesus Christ.” (His Letter to the Smyrnaeans 6, 2)
    Here is the primitive church, which the grasshopper was supposedly chasing after his entire life swarming threw the world looking for the greenest of grass, would render this chewing grasshopper “heretic”.
    And how can you reinterpret this? If one is to believe that the primitive church did the Eucharist only ‘in remembrance’ why would only the heretics of these times object? After all, St. Ignatius should have said “because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the [symbolic] Flesh of Our Savior Jesus Christ“.

    Again, I insist you support your view from 100 AD to a1500 AD. You can’t. And since you can’t, this would mean that for your private interpretation to be true, then Christ failed to establish the ordinance of His Church which He promied “I will build My Church …”.

    So did Christ build a Church that man made faulty observances? It’s a Yes or No.

    I had asked “Yes” or “No” questions, but it seems I did not get a “Yes” or “No” answers. Keep it kiss. Jesus asked “Yes” or “no” questions. He kept it kiss.

  • See my reply to your original, you seem to have re-posted your reply twice.

  • “I do appreciate your taking the time to answer my questions, even if inadequately”.

    I am inadequate. I know. And I do not recommend anything I say or write either 😉

    Take your time in your response and I hope I learn from your “adequate” reporting.