‘The West Is Waging A Proxy War Again Us Using The LGBT’ Western Media Loses It As Indonesian Minister Cracks Down On LGBT

With the infiltration of the churches and the decline of Christianity, the world has slowly returned to its former state of darkness. The LGBT represent one aspect of this, having spread across the world and infected every part of society. However, some countries are resisting, such as Indonesia, which has been arresting the LGBT and attempting to stop its spread

Since 2011, the percent of HIV-positive Indonesian men who were having sex with men rose from six to 26, and as many think it’s the government’s fault.

Following a raid in May of this year, targeting gay men in Surabaya, Indonesia’s second largest city, many gay men are too frightened to get tested for HIV, fearing they will be outed.

“People are scared,” says Fajar Prabowo, programme officer at Yayasan Suwitno, a group that operates clinics and mobile units that provide HIV testing. “It’s very hard to get people to come to the clinic. Now it’s even harder to reach them.”

According to the South China Morning Post, Defense Minister Ryamizard Ryacudu “likened the spread of tolerance toward homosexuals to a proxy war waged by the West,” resulting in police raids like the one earlier this year.

Although homosexuality is technically not a crime in most of Indonesia, the semi-autonomous northern province of Aceh, which has been governed by Sharia law since 2001, adopted a measure in 2015 that punishes same-sex relations with up to 100 lashes. The lashings, which are carried out by hooded officers using a rattan cane, are incredibly painful and often leave permanent scars.

Now HIV testing and treatment has gone underground—even Jakarta’s main clinic for HIV testing only known “by word of mouth” and has no website to offer information.

“We like to keep [the clinic] known for only those who need it, no matter their sexual orientation,” said the clinic’s chief doctor, who remained anonymous.

“Sensitivity is the frontline of our campaign,” said Rena Janamnuaysook, the program coordinator of the Thai Red Cross Aids Research Centre. “We are normalising HIV/Aids.”

The percentage of HIV-positive men has gone up 20 percent in six years, but in larger cities like Jakarta and Bali the numbers are 36 percent. Bangkok also saw a rise from 21 percent in 2000 to now close to 30 percent. By 2020 half of new HIV infections in Southeast Asia will be among men who have sex with other men.

“Gay men are increasingly vilified and oppressed,” said Ryan Figueiredo, the deputy director of Apcom, a group that raises awareness of HIV and AIDS in Indonesia. “It’s disturbing that the authorities are denigrating the very community they need to be working with to address this epidemic.” (source)

As we and many other have pointed out, the homosexual issue has never been about “rights” or “equality,” but about shifting the balance of power in society by stripping away any sense of objective morality and redefining it in terms of what the government determines it to be for its particular end. In the case of today, it is about destroying Christian morality and replacing it with a new form of the same old ideas of paganism that have always been opposed to Christ and His Church, and all of human life. A society under the influence of homosexuality is the dream of a eugenicist because since the act itself cannot produce new life, homosexuality leads to the destruction of new life by preventing it from coming into existence. It is an objective moral wrong, a blasphemy against God’s creation, and as the Bible states is a sin that cries out to Heaven for vengeance because it is worthy of death as it is so wicked it even disgusts the demons of hell.

Here the Indonesians are being vilified and accused of “spreading HIV” by cracking down on homosexual behavior. Yet this is a complete lie, because at the article mentions above and as homosexuals themselves have stated, the spread of HIV is overwhelming directly connected to homosexual activity and the normalization of HIV itself comes straight out of the homosexual circles in society. The latter part naturally reinforces the former in spite of anything the LGBT may say because since HIV is spread primarily by sodomite behavior, they have to justify the disease and make it socially acceptable in order to prevent the public’s natural disgust and outrage at the spread of this disease turning against them. Wherever you find the LGBT one will find both HIV and other STDs as well as a massive campaign for “human rights” for people who have STDs and other diseases or simply social ills whose origins come from sodomite behavior or lifestyles.

A movie about HIV and Homosexuals. For many homosexuals, spreading STDs such as HIV is something they do intentionally for sexual pleasure.

The most interesting part is around 40:00 to 45:00, since it gives a graphic but very detailed insight into this world. However, if you watch beginning around 45:15, the film will discuss how the normalization of HIV has come directly from homosexual groups.

Dr. Stanley Monteith many years ago wrote a book about this called AIDS: The Unnecessary Epidemic, in which he noted that the HIV/AIDS problem grew into an epidemic starting in the homosexual bath houses in major cities. Among the many solutions that he suggested back in the late 1970s and early 1980s when AIDS became a public health issue, he was scoffed at for among his many recommendations, that the gay clubs and bath houses posed a threat to public health and needed to be closed immediately. His words were not heeded, and as predicted, the situation with HIV has only worsened since.

Indonesia is a Muslim nation, and as we have written before here on Shoebat.com, Islam actually permits homosexuality per its own theology. There is nothing “anti-gay” about Islam, and the punishments which Islam prescribes against the LGBT are connected to violations of the Sharia regarding homosexuality. Muslim men can sodomize other Muslim men, but it has to be in accordance with Islamic theology. So long as this is followed, then anything is possible:

The issue of homosexuality and Islam is as confused as the confused individuals who are confused about their gender. Western media is also confused since Islam does not prohibit all forms of homosexuality. Shoebat.com maintained that Islam permits the transgender type.

The Independent for example is beginning to get it when it wrote “Radical Islamists convinced Omar Mateen that being gay is never compatible with being a Muslim – but that’s not necessarily true”.

The Independent has a point. Actually half a point. In IslamMukhannathun (مخنثون “effeminate ones”, “men who resemble women”, singular mukhannath) is allowed for people who would now be called transgender women (reality they are men).

In other words, the bottom line is that Islam prohibits and permits homosexuality. Islam’s author of confusion is notorious for using play on words. In Islam a homosexual (Liwati) is banned but if he is effeminate (Mukhannath) he is not. Adultery is forbidden in Islam, of course, but not with concubines, alcohol is forbidden, but not in heaven, prostitution Bagha’ is forbidden but not when its Misyar (marriages where one can contract with a rental overnight wife). Patricide and matricide are forbidden until the parents oppose the son to go on Jihad … you name the sin and Islam becomes the religion of loopholes. (source)

The problem with the LGBT in Indonesia is that it is not permitted in a way acceptable to those who are funding these groups from without in order that they might cause social upheaval for the purpose of perpetuating their power.

One only needs to look at the case of Chechnya for this. Chechnya has been repeatedly attacked for having “gay death camps” in spite of the dearth of evidence. The reason for this is not at all about “gay rights” or “human rights,” but about building anti-Russian sentiment so to further push for a conflict against them. As we wrote:

One can also see here how the support of or opposition to homosexuality is being weaponized against others,  in this case Russia and her territory in Muslim Chechnya, who are publicly fighting homosexuality. These people go so far as to call Russia and Chechnya “evil” for this, and as we have noted that America and her allies in the European Union want to start a war with Russia, they are attempting to use these charges of “homosexual death camps” to stir up anger against Russia and her allies.

Speaking of “homosexual death camps’, where is the concrete evidence of these “camps,” and if so, what constitutes what is being called a “camp?” Notice how in spite of all of the condemnations, claims, protests, and statements made against Russia and Chechnya over these ‘camps,’ there is also a considerable dearth of evidence and what evidence is being presented is questionable. Not only that, but that Russia herself has asked that before condemnations are issued a formal investigation needs to be made, and nothing of the kind is happening? This pattern should sound familiar by now, because that is exactly what happened in Syria with the “chemical weapons charges” against President Asad, which we reported were patently false and instead manufactured by American and European propagandists to beat the drums of war against Russia. (source)

This is not a “left” or “right” issue because as we have repeatedly noted, both “sides” in the West support homosexuality. The left supports a feminized homosexuality, the right supported a masculinized homosexuality, but both sides end with another man masturbating into another man’s rectum and God hates all of it and it all results in the same end.

When the Indonesian minister speaks about Western government waging a proxy war against his society, he is absolutely correct to say so because the love of homosexuality is a war against God and his creation. This is made clear how the LGBT promotes all kinds of deviant behavior such as teaching teenagers to masturbate with poop, teaching little children to sodomize each other, and saying that pedophilia is normal. Many sodomites are as open about their sexuality as they are about how they worship satan and they are ideal for preparing the way for the antichrist. Yet in the modern Western world today, the society from its elite to the common people have accepted sodomy as natural behavior so much that he who does not accept it is regarded as a social pariah. People who merely say what God says in the Bible are ostracized, threatened, harassed, and risk losing their jobs, their homes, and even their families. Even many people who call themselves Christians support the LGBT because they either do not understand what their Faith actually teaches or they want to embrace the sins of the culture they want to while standing against others, and as God clearly stated in the New Testament, one cannot serve two masters.

As Ted pointed out recently, now is not the time for Christians to yearn after a quixotic past when the reality is that which they seek had died long ago and what we are witnessing is the culmination of centuries of heresy and apostasy. Christians must stand up and continue to advance in society while preparing for a new dark ages that is falling upon the world and appears more every day to advance the end times. As the society has returned to the barbarity of paganism and the world looks as it did during the days of Noah, it is for Christians to prepare accordingly. If God destroyed Sodom by fire from Heaven for its sin, and if God even so destroyed the entire world because of its sin by water in the Deluge, what is to say that God will not destroy the entire world by fire as it is mired in sin just as it was before the deluge and in particular of the sin of Sodom? Indeed, the prophetic warnings have been coming for almost a century now.

God’s Mercy precedes God’s Justice. Governments are using the LGBT to wage war on society, but this is ultimately a war for the souls of the human race, and the consequence are eternal. Stay ready and be prepared, because this is simply the twilight before the darkness falls.

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  • “[…] what is to say that God will not destroy the entire world by fire as it is mired in sin just as it was before the deluge and in particular of the sin of Sodom?”

    Well, shoot, Andrew, I have been saying through the comment box that God has already reserved the world for fiery judgement. You often cited quotes from Fatima where “Fires will fall from the skies” and that is easily confirmed by a cursory reading of the Apocalypse and even the non-canonical book 2 Esdras 15.

    There is a sense that a finality is coming. We are living in the days that St. Peter wrote:

    “Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.” For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water, through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire,
    kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men
    ,” (2 Peter 3:3-7).

    Again, he continues:

    “But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!” (Ibid).

    Therefore, while we are watching the world turn itself inside out due to the manifold sins that they flaunt everyday, God’s patience is wearing thin because He is still in the process of herding His sheep He is calling into one fold while allowing stupid sheep to leave that fold since they want to have their ears tickled, He will slam the gate shut and no man will ever be able to open it again.

    It will be as in the days of Noah. He preached righteous, endured scorning and mocking while he labored to build the ark. Today’s Christians would be yelling at him, “There is no such thing as salvation outside of the ark, only Christ!” In the end, Noah and his family entered the ark by obeying God’s words to the letter, and the world was destroyed.

    God…will…not…be…mocked.

  • Raph Sebastian

    [ Defense Minister Ryamizard Ryacudu “likened the spread of tolerance toward homosexuals to a proxy war waged by the West,]

    The Obama admin has propagated the homosexual agenda and exported the agenda through his ambassadors as well.

    The Dominican Republic which is a predominantly Catholic nation was a target for the homosexual agenda when Obama appointed a homosexual ambassador. That vile homosexual even got into a hate filled tirade against the Catholic Church and the Dominican Republic for the corruption by the police.

    The Cardinal then called the ambassador a faggot and that he should stay in the kitchen and do housework since he is a “wife” to a man.

    I hardly agree with anything coming out of an Indonesian politician’s mouth, or any other politician for that matter, but this time the Defense Minister is right.

    • Grandmere

      Give that Cardinal a cold beer! I like his style!

      • CTyank

        “I’ll drink to that”

    • Kamau41

      I would go ahead and give that Cardinal two cold beers for fearlessly telling it like it is with great zeal.

      • Grandmere

        Lower the gang plank and welcome him aboard. Another ferocious rower.

  • Coombes Larry

    A couple of notes here.

    1) I ***like*** being in Indonesia!! It’s one of the few countries that is fighting back against BOTH the gay agenda and the Islamists. Islamic militancy has been in ascendancy and actively courted by various players but the Ahok case has changed all that and Indonesia is now mounting the WIDEST crack down on militancy that I know of in any country in the world!

    2) Indonesia is NOT a Muslim country. Not exactly anyway. Although it is vastly Muslim majority, it is a secular state. This is very important as it is NATIONALISM that defines Indonesia in Indonesia and not Islam. Spend any time in the country at all and you quickly find out how Indonesia defines itself. Nationalism is THE definition of Indonesian identity followed by ‘Pancesila’ (unity in diversity) which is what keeps the nation together. So Indonesia is careful NOT to be an Islamic state as it would rip the nation apart. Er, that’s why the whole Ahok case was such a scandal as certain elites showed that, despite having made great play of their “Nationalist” credentials they were willing to get behind the Islamists and rip Indonesia apart in order to take over!! This did NOT go down with the Indonesian populous!

    3) Following on from point 2 – Indonesia is not a homogeneous country. It is a mass of Islands with very different histories and only recently ‘united.’ While the vast majority are Muslim, you have regional autonomy – a requirement following the long dictatorships of Sukarno and Surharto – leading to nations within a nation. On the one had you have annexed Aceh which is a Sharia state – mainly on the grounds that it was already a sharia country that Surharto annexed! But Papua (also annexed!) is Christian! So the local regulations in Papua are very pro-Christian. Then you have the tourist cash cow Bali which is Hindu and the MINUTE Indonesia ever imposed Sharia law the Island would declare Independence and the Government knows it. Then there are Christian regions within the larger islands. I live in one of them. If Indonesia went Sharia the nation would break apart almost instantly. So it is impossible for Indonesia to be an Islamic state. It would simply cease to be Indonesia if it did. You would have at least five states at war with each other! So, while it is correct to talk of Indonesia being a Muslim majority nation, arguably a ‘Muslim’ nation but it is NOT an Islamic country. Sharia is unacceptable here – and Jokowi has put his foot on the throat of anyone who says otherwise! The notorious MUI have now been banned, for instance, and there is now talk of more Islamist groups following.

    4) Indonesia is also fast converting to Christianity. Exactly how fast is impossible to say. Claims that 2 million convert every year are almost certainly wishful thinking. But, due to difficulties with paperwork regarding religion here and the need for Christians in SOME areas to hide their faith (likely to change as Jokowi cracks down on intolerance) it is also likely that the lower estimates are wrong as well. But everyone agrees that Indonesians are dropping Islam for Christianity. Protestants seem to be gaining faster than Catholics but both are growing. The Catholic churches are PACKED where I am. Easily 500 people per Mass. Special occasions and tents have to be added and TV monitors. This is important because, just as when the number of Muslims reaches a certain percentage they start to impose and affect the local culture, so it is with Christians. Christian morality ALSO has an effect on Indonesia. Whatever may be morally permitted by Islam, the Christians will not stand for certain things here including acceptance of homosexual propagation. Also, while Indonesia HAS flirted with militant, ‘Arabic’ Islam, this has been firmly REJECTED by the population of the country as a whole and the Pendulum is fast swinging the other way against wahhabism! This means, in turn, that the Christians are being taken more seriously. For instance, the infamous ‘Yasmin Church’ case here has finally been resolved after the Mayor was utterly intransigent before. Regional leaders who felt they had to show their Islamic credentials by stepping on the Christians are now suddenly finding they have to show their care for the Christians!!

    5) Indonesian Islam ***is*** different to ‘mainstream’ Arabic Islam. Historically speaking, when Islam came to Indonesia it was arguably ‘softened’ by influence from various other religions. Christian influence on the local rendering of Islam was very strong. Now, it is not down to me to criticize Islam (right now, that would be a very bad idea for me as the nation battles militancy and homosexuality while trying to preserve/restore Nationalism and with rubber stamp blasphemy laws!!) but I CAN say that Indonesians pride themselves on having the Real Form of Islam which is in OPPOSITION to violent Arabic Islam. Again, referring back to Nationalism, having a local rendering of Islam which is seen as True but distinct from Arabic Islam – which Indonesians DESPISE – helps keep the nation together AND leads to a rejection of such things as homosexuality. So the Halal and Haram precepts in Indonesia are somewhat different in Indonesia to say, Afghanistan. If Indonesia were to accept Arabic practises of homosexuality it would, again, threaten Nationalism, national identity as well as casting local ‘Indo-Islam’ into doubt. All would led to civil war!

    6) The ethnic Chinese here, while only 4% of the population are the owners of industry here – and resented for it. They are also very much the Christians. If Indonesia did go full on Islamic… the Chinese would pack their bags and leave! The Indonesian economy would then collapse overnight. So the Government, in the end, has no choice to take Christian morals into account because there would be economic consequences if they did not. Now, because of harsh persecution in the past, the Chinese are very careful to keep their heads down. They are NOT involved in politics. Er, that’s why they dominate in business because the persecution meant the Chinese here had no choice but to set up their own businesses and trade with each other creating a Chinese powerhouse that was exactly what Surharto was trying to avoid! So the Chinese keep very quite and let things carry on without them but the Government knows that there are certain lines they cannot cross. It does not stop the uneducated loons in the assembly drafting insane laws and regulations but they are ignored or repealed very quickly when the Chinese businessmen growl quietly. My point? The Christian Chinese also help keep the Indonesian Government from adopting too much Arabic Islam.

    So the situation here is VERY different to the Middle East. And, yes, there is a major crackdown on homosexuality here and Islamism and I am far more proud of the Indonesian people and I am my ‘own people’ – who, frankly, rejected me from the start. I have little to no sense of connection to the UK, it’s people or it’s values I am sad to say.

    Anyway, having FINALLY had a break, I have finished my latest anime music video. After so much work, so much stress, I needed R&R. I needed… DANCING GIRLS!!!
    http://www.veoh.com/watch/v125651424R6t5kJwC
    Humour!

    • Indian Christian Crusader

      There is heavy influence of Hinduism and paganism in Indonesia. In my visit to Indonesia many years ago, I was shocked to see the penetration of Hinduism in terms of symbols, names, and architecture etc especially in Java and Bali.

      • Coombes Larry

        A few points. I mean, when you are dealing with a country as large – both physically and in terms of population – and diverse you HAVE To paint with broad strokes. So let me reply and clarify a bit.

        Of course there are many different religious influences here. I said that! The point is that the different religions have flavoured ‘Indo-Islam’ and prevent the totally toxic Arabic Islam that local Indonesians hate! Furthermore, the belief in ‘Indo-Islam’ gives room for a kickback against Arabic Islam which is now taking place.
        BIG TIME
        Just to give an example… I went to the cinema with my wife a few weeks ago… dreadful, typical, painting by numbers atheistic dribble… MAN I prefer anime!… and there were TWO, repeat TWO Government sponsored ads on Panceslia and diversity. Imagine that in the West… unless by ‘diversity’ we mean “homosexuality.”
        These also shows the pendulum is swinging against the radicals and REQUIRES local leaders to treat Christians with more respect. See Bogor…

        Yes, there is a lot of animism and shamanism here. It’s seen as part of Indonesian identity, especially in the rural areas. But, oddly enough, it helps keep peaceful Indo-Islam in place! Also, it’s more of a rural thing and among the less educated. It’s entrenched, I must say! But it’s fading slowly. Like the corruption here. It’s both entrenched and yet losing.

        The Chinese have a variety of religions but that is true of any people. Nevertheless, the VAST majority are Christian… though the Chinese tend to worship money most of all! But my point was more that the Chinese do not hold with homosexuality or militant Islam and there is a point where they end up drawing the line by economic power. But is done very quietly and only at a point of last resort.

        You are correct about Papua and there remains a hell of a lot of abuse. But is less that the locals are Christian… it is not religious persecution, but more humiliation of a conquered people. As I keep saying, the SINGLE most important ideological foundation of Indonesia is NATIONALISM!! Any commentator or analyst who does not factor in Nationalism, or does not mention it, does not understand Indonesia.
        Period!
        Ministers can justify almost any law or regulation with the one word; “Nationalism.” The word has that much power. Of course, it has to be used in relation to a law or regulations that aligns with National sentiment but if it does, the law passes.
        I cannot believe the Westerner reporters who do not factor in, or even seem to know about, the single guiding principle of Indonesia and the 1945 Constitution and how it impacts decisions in the country!
        Nationalism!
        Comes up in every political conversation here and yet Western reporters seem not to have a clue. I have read one single Western analyst online who seemed to get. Just one.

        There has been religious violence in Indonesia and violence of all sorts continues. As I mentioned in another post about the killing of the man ‘stealing’ from the mosque (though there have been further claims that they guy was guilty but you can never be sure here) where I described how violence is used in the complete absence of any functional police service here. I am not blind to the problems in Indonesia. Heck, there was an attempted political coup here with weapons on standby! It was only defused by Ahok’s willing sacrifice for the country!!

        BUT!!! Indonesia ***is*** becoming more Christian and it stands to do very well in the future.

        It is true that some Indonesians have become more liberal… though the real threat has been rising Conservativism. But you know how liberalism came to Indonesia?
        The West.
        Western media. The Gay propaganda.
        Plus, of course, the dread UN ‘aid which always comes with free condoms and ‘education.’ The Minister is absolutely right and I am delighted that the Indonesian Government recognised BOTH invasions: the threat from the West and the Middle East.
        Jokowi is Indonesia’s Trump! 🙂

        I hope that clarifies.
        GB.

        • Indian Christian Crusader

          Well, agree with you on many points. Indonesia definitely is a lot more pleasant place than India is, that’s for sure. Jakarta was a lot more safer than New Delhi. Women were traveling at night there.

          However, I must caution, that since right now the majority of people are unbelievers, we cannot say for sure what they will become in the future as end times comes, the Devil can possess them to do more evil. Only through Christ can the person be safe.

          There are many Chinese gays. Recently they held one in Singapore. Chinese community does not mean one cannot have sinners in that community

          http://www.reuters.com/article/us-singapore-lgbt-pinkdot-idUSKBN19M3GD

          Taiwan court has favored gay marriage.

          http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40012047

          • Coombes Larry

            Yeah, I understand your concerns but there are now very few places where Christians are the majority and at least I am next door to the Catholic Philippines if push really comes to shove… which it sure hasn’t in Indonesia yet.

            I know Taiwan has gone over the cliff on gay marriage but that has no impact here. Bear in mind that the Chinese are actually HATED here and their influences is resented! So the Chinese only lean on the Government by economic power. If the Government goes too far the Chinese threatened to jump to Singapore… which they did after 1998 and came back cautiously… and the Government has to walk back. I live in a key business center and it is DOMINATED by the Ethnic Chinese who are definitely Christian… if work and money obsessed, though.

            In regards to Hindu and Pagan architecture… I forgot to mention (my life is busy!) Indonesia was originally Hindu and pagan!!! Of course this would be reflected in its heritage. That’s why Indonesia has Hindu Bali. It is to Indonesia’s credit that it has NOT purged its past and done an Afghanistan and blow up any and all statues! It is a sign of Indonesia’s tolerance. I will grant that that tolerance was sorely tested as Arabs invaded (it is common knowledge that immigrasi have, up to now, just waved Muslim Arabs through the gates with no questions asked unlike other ‘visitors’ and that has led to an push for Indonesia to become another Arab dictated Sharia state and it did come to a head with the Ahok case. But the Christian Ahok did the Christian thing and sacrificed himself and totally blew the power of the players out.

            He is going to be HUGE in Indonesia’s future and a major Christian leader here. Watch the 2019 elections here closely. If the world is not at all out war, mind.

            In regards to the End Times…

            1) If this really is the End Times and the anti-Christ is really upon us then it does not matter where I am. The scriptures are clear that the WHOLE WORLD ends up dominated by the Anti-Christ and there will be NO safe haven anywhere! So it will make not a jot where I live. I will be persecuted anyway. And so will you and Shoebat and every other Christian that holds fast. There are no space places in the true End Times.
            2) I deny that we are in *The* End Times with very good reason. But due to the demands of the huge wad of evidence I have to produce to be heard here I am producing a book on the subject. Just finished my latest AMV as some light relief after total overload. I can get back to writing soon.

            I do believe it is AN end time and the dress rehearsal for the Anti-Christ. Indeed, if I read the prophecies of the Catholic seers correctly… and they are hardly opaque… we are about to hit WWIII in Europe starting with civil war in Italy, France and then England followed by Russia invade from the North and the Muslims from the South – I assume Erdogan with a recreated Caliphate along with chastisements from God… and after all of it… 75% of the world’s population are dead!

            But the evidence, I would contend, argues AGAINST Erdogan being THE Anti-Christ and this being THE End times. The end of secular Western Civilisation, yes. The greatest chastisement of the Earth since the flood, yes. I expect things to really ‘kick off’ after October in line with the 100 year anniversary of the end of the warnings of Fatima which were pretty much ignored.

            Soooo…. Whatever happens, I have though it through. I would argue that I was facing MUCH greater risk in the old country – the UK. My predictions there have come to pass and London is now a white minority area and fast becoming a Sharia only zone along with Birmingham (which I have been too and it was scary enough in my time!) and Manchester and spreading into the suburbs. And that is without the secular persecution and blacklisting of Christians so they cannot work or be promoted.

            At least in Indonesia there is a fightback against BOTH invasions. I stand a chance here. The UK… no chance.

            So… I have thought it out! 🙂