The One Who Threw The Pachamama Idol Into the River Caught On Tape Refusing To Denounce Nationalist Neopagans in Europe

(Shoebat Sunday Special) 

Jesus says to beware of wolves in sheep’s clothing. But when it comes to European wolves, American sheep are completely credulous. They are like Red Riding Hood, not recognizing the wolf who dressed up as her grandmother.

Recently the Western Catholic world found a new hero to praise: Alexander Schugguel, the one who threw the Pachamama idols into the Tiber river. When we first heard about the presentation of the Pachamama fertility idol in front of Pope Francis, we were all rightfully outraged. So, when we heard about some anonymous person casting the idols into the river, we applauded him. Not too long after this news, the person who threw the pagan images into the water revealed himself as Alexander Tschugguel. We began to investigate this person and found some very questionable things and posted our concerns. What we discovered in the original piece was that Tschugguel has publicly documented connections to political figures and parties who have ties to Germanic nationalismAs we stated in the piece, our purpose was to answer the following question as best as we could:

But who is Alexander Tschugguel? That is a question which most people do not know much about and which in spite of the attention being placed upon him, there has been no serious inquiry about from secular or Catholic media.

No Catholic or secular media outlet has asked this question at all except for We presented the article and quickly received a message from Mr. Tschugguel himself, requesting to challenge 

We finally connected with Tschugguel.

Tschugguel made himself clear that he was ‘very upset’ with the entire article, and almost immediately he demanded that we take the article down or else he would attempt to file a lawsuit. Regardless of his condescending language, we simply wanted to know one thing: does Mr. Tschugguel denounce the Austrian Identitarian movement, since it supports neopaganism and its members carry up Thor’s Hammer. 

This question came up on account of what we saw as far as Tschugguel’s ties went: his work with Beatrix von Storch, a major member of the AfD (Alternative for Deutschland), a nationalist party in Germany. We also had to factor in Tschugguel’s collaboration with Ewald Stadler who was formerly working with the Austrian nationalist party, the Freedom Party (FPO), which wants to bring back the Germanic Reich with Berlin and Vienna as its centers of power, and who also expressed support for Horst Mahler, a vicious Right-wing nationalist who was in fact once a member of the German Nazi party, the NPD.

But Tschugguel was adamant that he has nothing to do with nationalism or any other form of tribalism. He explicitly told us that he rejects nationalism and that he is a patriot. But, when we asked him to denounce the pagan Identitarian movement of Austria, he refused and in fact viciously said: “You are not in a position to ask me question like that!” You can see this conversation here:

When we asked him: “Do you denounce the ideas of the Austrian Identitarian movement?” Tschugguel said, “I do not give you an answer on anything like that!”

Now, is it not suspicious that this person, Alexander Tschugguel, who is being praised as a Catholic who is combatting paganism in the Church, refuses to denounce a pagan nationalist organization? We know for a fact that he supports the German nationalist politician, Beatrix von Storch, and we know that he worked with a former FPO member, Ewald Stadler. He claims to reject nationalism, but he refuses to denounce a pagan nationalist movement in his own country of Austria. One cannot look at this situation without, understandably, being at least somewhat suspicious.

When we asked him why he refuses to denounce the Identitarian movement, he said, “Because I don’t know them.” However, when, later on, we asked him about Martin Sellner, one of the main leaders of the Austrian Identitarians, Tschugguel seemed to know a good amount about him. For example, he knew about Sellner’s history as a neo-Nazi, and he also knew about how Sellner switched to having a more Catholic face. Tschugguel gave us a typical politician like answer and told us that “many things” that Sellner says are right, “many things he says are not what I would say, and some of them are very wrong.”

When we asked him, “what is very wrong?” He brought up Sellner’s neo-Nazi past — to use his words, “ten years ago, or fifteen years ago” — but he never brought up Sellner’s current pagan ideology. Tschugguel also went so far as to affirm that he trusts that Sellner has become truly in favor of Christianity, stating emphatically, “I believe him.”

But when we pressed Tschugguel (who continuously accused us of naivety) about the fact that while Sellner does have a Catholic image he is still pushing for pagan ideology (since Sellner is simply committing to a strategy of pagan taqqiya, or simply lying), Tschugguel at first said that Sellner had a past of paganism but has now changed. When we pressed Tschugguel again about the fact that we are not talking about his past, but that his Identitarian movement currently has pagan sympathies, Tschugguel made us out to be conspiracy theorists and eventually hung up the phone on us.

Now, is it not odd that a person who is being adulated as the one who baptized the Pachamama idols cannot make a simple denunciation of this pagan and nationalist movement? Do we not have a right to be incredulous when such a person has no issue purging out an Amazonian idol but so much difficulty denouncing a European pagan movement?

He tosses the South American idol into the Tiber, but when asked if he denounces the pagan Identitarians, he says, “I won’t support them, I won’t denounce them.” Such are the words of a slippery fish and such an answer is a slimy one meant to slide out from resistance. “But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.” (Matthew 5:37)

Either one supports the Identitarians- and their National Socialist and pagan influenced philosophies -or one does not support them.

It is that simple.

Ask yourself, why would Tschugguel refuse to answer such a direct, simple, and clear question with a ‘yes’ or a ‘no’?

Truly, this equivocator is someone who does and says one thing, but he will do and say something else that is contrary to his presented persona. He claims to be against paganism in the Church, but gives a lukewarm answer regarding a pagan movement that is feigning a Catholic image.    

Sellner himself expressed his support for syncretism between Christianity and European paganism, calling the followers of such harlotry, “Solar Christians.” In a 2015 interview, when Sellner was asked, “Which part does religion play in the identitarian ideology?” he replied:

“Yes, this is somewhat an “apple of discord” within our movement, because there is a great split between neopagans and Christians among European new right-wingers that often led to conflicts earlier. We overcame this problem, because we agreed on the “least common denominator” within our Identitarian discourse: We all fight to save our ethnocultural identity, but observe freedom of thought in all other matters. This is even an advantage that strengthens our movement. We say that we fight against the enemies of all European cultural and religious traditions. This is why radical neopagans wearing Thor’s hammer, for example, stand hand in hand with staunch Catholic and Orthodox Christians during our summer camp in France. They have a mutual respect for each other’s religiosity. Even representatives from such novel movements such as the “solar Christians” (fr. chretiens solairs) appeared among the French identitarians. They are baptized Christians, faithful children of the Church, yet they are not opposed to celebrating pagan seasonal holidays as part of their North-European cultural heritage.”

So the goal is to be labeled as “right-wingers” regardless if one worships Christ or Thor.

This is coming out of the movement that Tschugguel — the one so famous for drowning Pachamama — refuses to denounce. If someone truly hates paganism, then he will denounce such a movement regardless of what truth may come out of it. Tschugguel will argue that there are good things that are said by the Identitarian movement, but the reality is that there is not a single movement on this earth, no matter how dangerous, that does not have a modicum of truth in their speech. Every revolutionary movement, every genocidal regime, every heretic and every scoundrel, every demon and Satan himself, will say truth. Our assessment of a movement or person is not whether or not they say truth, but what they do with that truth. We must always look at the motivation behind people’s use of the truth, not simply if they say true things. 

For those who may not remember, the Austrian Identitarian Movement (IBO) was co-founded with Martin Sellner, who worked since he was a teenager with neo-Nazis beginning in 2006 when he vandalized a synagogue with a Swastika and then helped National Socialist activists in Austria organize protests for neo-Nazis as well as events promoting the German Wehrmacht. Since 2016, he claims that he is no longer a National Socialist and has moved into philosophy and activism, but as revealed in an exclusive interview, Sellner’s IBO shows itself as little more than a cover for supporting eugenics, paganism, and the same pagan-rooted philosophies of National Socialism, just under a different group.

These get hot under the collar when questioned. Above we confronted Sellner whose new face Tschugguel supports. The Interview should be an eye-opener for all to see just how steeped these are into syncretism with neopagans. Tschugguel, similar to Sellner, demanded we ‘take down the interview or else’ they threaten to come down on us with Thor’s hammer.

“Christians and Pagans should unite together” says Sellner (see 1:11) in his final last words.

This is the man Tschugguel claims ‘favors Christianity’.

When we asked Tschugguel regarding the Austrian nationalist Freedom Party (FPO), he said: “I don’t care for them because the FPO first of all never wanted to build up a new German Reich at least not since I live”.

Tschugguel, in other words, wants a German reich. Now, he will argue that by reich he does not mean a Nazi reich but the empire of the old Germanic Holy Roman Empire: the Habsburgs. Tschugguel’s fantasy is not uncommon amongst Germanic patriots. If he and his ilk want a monarchy and an empire (a reich), then they will follow a man who will bring their fantasy to fruition. And given the recent history of Germany and Austria, I don’t think any decent people will feel very enthusiastic about the rise of another Germanic empire in Europe. This fantasy about ushering in a German empire is the reason why there were monarchists who followed Adolf Hitler. Many monarchists are just foolish idealists, or really just tools who will back any political figure who will give them just a whiff of hope that some fantasy of monarchy could be possible; they will elevate such a leader as a messiah figure, only to be chasing after an antichrist. Some wake up to this delusion, some do not. Such tools follow cults like Tradition, Family and Property, better known as its acronym, TFP. 

And this is exactly who Tschugguel supports. He is in fact an activist for the TFP, credits a book by the TFP’s founder (Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira), Revolution and Counter Revolution for his conversion to Catholicism, and he spoke for the TFP in the beginning of his US speaking tour.  

The TFP is essentially the Muslim Brotherhood of the Monarchist cult. It is well funded and even has a paramilitary branch. In a 1979 cable from the American consulate in Sao Paolo (where TFP is headquartered) to the US Secretary of State, it reads:     


The same cable mentions the paramilitary arm of the TFP:


TFP members, like the Nazis and the Alt-Right, insist on cutting one’s hair on the sides. The cable documents this and notes that “MEMBERS FREQUENTLY AFFECT EXTREMELY SHORT CREW CUT HAIR SYTLE”.

In the 1980s, the TFP supported the stay of Yair Klein — an Israeli arms dealer and trainer — in Columbia while he trained paramilitaries who would commit a massacre in that country. Yair Klein, a former elite soldier of the Israeli Army and leader of the group, in fact, stated in an interview with El Espectador  in 1989, that he was in Columbia as a military trainer, that he was hired to train, and that the anti-communist organization, “Tradition, Family and Property” (TFP) supported his stay in the country. According to an AP report, “Yair Klein is accused of training far-right paramilitary groups in the 1980s that stole land and murdered Colombians during a decade-long reign of terror across the countryside.” In another AP article it reads that Klein “confirmed that he did instruct the far-right death squads in how to eliminate the leftist insurgency.” The leading ideologue for the Pinochet regime was one Jaime Guzman, a TFP activist with ties to the paramilitary group, Frente Nazional Patria y Libertad (Fatherland and Freedom National Front). The TFP is really a part of the militant Right. 

What empowers such groups is a spiritual and ideological imbalance. All societal and political imbalances arise from the need of a savior outside of Christ. As long as we continue to search for a hero  — be it in the pro-life movement, or in the movement against church corruption or against terrorism — we will follow false messiahs, false christs, false gods; we will follow cult leaders, war criminals and murderers; we will reject Christ and follow Bar Kokhba; we will follow the most destructive and subversive elements in society who will express outrage against real grievances only to persuade you to commit other grievances yourself, and if we do not realize the pernicious path upon which we are treading, we will follow them to the lowest depths of the abyss.