Germany And Turkey Are Creating The Migration Crises In Europe To Bring Back Nazism And To Destroy Christendom. In The End The Muslim Ottoman Empire Will Unite With Protestants To Butcher Catholics And Orthodox Christians

By Theodore Shoebat (Shoebat Sunday Special)

Turkey butchered millions in the early twentieth century. But so did Germany! And I am not speaking about the Jewish Holocaust, but what is sidelined in Holocaust memorials and Hollywood movies, the millions of Catholic Poles butchered at the hands of Germany. In this essay, history reveals what today escapes the naked eye. When people read today’s headlines, they get the sense that Germany is a victim of multiculturalism and terrorism. But history sheds a light revealing how Germany creates chaos to justify its own militaristic agenda.

Throughout World War I and World War II, the inner-workings of German strategists have always connived headlines that speak of ‘peace’ towards other nations when then and all of the sudden, Germany would carryout the complete reverse fulfilling what God has always warned about, that “when they say peace and security, sudden destruction commeth”. So if historically, Turkey and Germany have been united all throughout recent history, both being the main causer of havoc and destruction to the whole of Christendom, then Germany, the motherland that gave birth to Protestantism, was, is still, and will be, working with the most powerful of the Muslim countries, Turkey, to strike Christendom, once more.  Enter an amazing research.

We say truth to the masses.
Tell them of the storm that is to come,
How the storm will be red,
How the storm will be carnage,
With the moon crimson,
Reflecting the blood
That will flood the earth

They will reproach you with rage,
And say, everything is alright,
Victory is near.

We are proud,
We are here,
We are we.

Pride begins as a thought,
And manifests into reality.
Signs of friendship,
Become swastikas.
Nationalism becomes death camps,
Duty turns into cruelty.

The common man will say, “Why?”
But the watchmen will look from a distance,
Laugh and say,
Behold, prediction becomes realty

I love to look at the forest, and I despise looking at a tree, meaning that while the masses scream about refugees, I like to look at the greater conspiracy, to see with all care, what machinations are being devised to destroy all of humanity.

The plan by Germany to bring in hundreds of thousands of Muslims, could be more about recruiting men into its military. One of the reasons why I suspect this is because the Germans have done this before, in the First World War. In the small German town of Wunsdorf, there is currently a refugee camp which houses about 637 people.

What is interesting is that in this same town of Wunsdorf, during the First World War, there was actually a refugee camp for Muslims. It was called the Halbmondlager (Half Moon Camp), and in it was built Germany’s first mosque. The plan behind the camp was to take these refugees and use them as soldiers against the British, the French and the Russians. The one behind the plan was Max von Oppenheim,  a German diplomat and orientalist who loved Islam. He was also a propagandist who worked to rile up Muslims living in allied territory to attack the Entente (France, Great Britain, Russia and Italy).  There is even a photo of him dressed as a Muslim:

Oppenheim once said:

“In the battle against England … Islam will become one of our most important weapons.”

When the Great War broke out, Oppenheim was commissioned by the German government to be responsible for the Foreign Office, managing German interests in the Middle East and the Islamic regions. After this, in August of 1914, Germany and Turkey signed the Ottoman-German pact as allies against the Entente. Germany’s reason for signing it was to use the Muslims to fight in a jihad against its enemies. The German General Chief of Staff, Helmuth von Moltke, desired that the Ottoman war minister, Enver Pasha, would weaken the Entente from within, that is, to stir the Muslims within Entente territory to revolt.

Helmuth von Moltke

Enver Pasha

The Kaiser of Germany, Wilhelm II, told Enver that the Sultan-Calif should call for a jihad in Africa and Asia, exhorting for the Muslims to war against the enemies of Islam. Professors in Berlin, like the professor of Turkish history, Ernst Jackh, expected “Islamic fanatics fighting for Germany.”

Oppenheim told the Kaiser on the importance of capitalizing on the pan-Islamic movement that had begun in Turkey, to use their enthusiasm for jihad to recruit willful fighters against Germany’s enemies. Oppenheim wrote in his diary:

“In Constantinople a pan-Islamic movement started a couple of decades ago. The current Sultan took it over very skillfully and with great energy. He delegated envoys to the far-most regions of the Islamic world. And he attracted Islamic scholars to Constantinople through the translation of the Qur’an in all possible languages, of course in keeping the Arabic script, and through the inauguration of madrasas in South Africa etc.”

 Oppenheim became the head of the Oriental News Department in Berlin in 1914, and employed a dozen academics and native Muslims, including the Islamic scholar, Abd al-Aziz Shawash of Egypt, Sheikh Salih al-Sharif al-Tunisi of Tunisia, Mamun Abu al-Fadl from the Hijaz of the Arabian peninsula, alongside three Tatar Muslims: Said Effendijev, Shamil Safarov, and Muhammad Kazakov. Together, they worked to form propaganda to ignite “anti-imperial” uprisings in the territories controlled by Germany’s enemies.

Oppenheim also gained the position as the head of the News Department within the German Embassy in Istanbul in 1915. He, alongside other Germans, wanted to devise a new brand of Islam, a “Euro-Islam,” in which Turkish Muslims would be considered Europeans. This Euro-Islam maintained the doctrine of jihad,  and Oppenheim worked to start a global Euro-Islamic holy war against the Entente. To help spread his plan for global jihad, Oppenheim started a network of seventy reading halls and their chapters within the Ottoman Empire. The halls were easy to access and they were even supervised by German consuls. Leaflets of German propaganda were also distributed.

Picture from Islam and Muslims in Germany, ed. by Ala Al-Hamarneh and Jörn Thielmann

Propaganda was one means by which Oppenheim desired to rile up the Muslims against Germany’s enemies. The second means by which he wanted to lead the jihad against the Entente, was where the refugee camp in Wundsdorf came into play. He wanted to use the camp to recruit Muslim men into the German forces. The Muslims in the camp, who came from British and French territories, got their own mosque and their own newspaper, called Al-Jihad, to spread jihadist propaganda.

The Germans in fact had two camps, one in Wundsdorf, which contained about 5,000 Muslim men; and the other was in Zossen, which had more than 12,000. These refugees were actually prisoners of war who were taken by Allied auxiliary troops from India and African colonies, as well as from the Crimea, Kazan and the Caucasus. The prisoners were taken care of very well, given a mosque and the free exercise to practice their religion. “It was actually the Germans who were observing whether all the rituals that belong to [the] Islamic faith were [being] carried out or not,” says Reinhard Bernbeck, a professor of Near Eastern Archaeology at the Free University of Berlin.

In March of 1916, the German lieutenant, Fritz Grobba, led a battalion of one thousand French Arabs from Wunsdorf into Istanbul. Ironically, the Ottoman war minister, Enver Pasha, did not trust the Arab soldiers and made them slaves to work building streets.  (Source: Islam and Muslims in Germany, ed.y Ala Al-Hamarneh and Jörn Thielmann)

Fritz Grobba

Why would an Ottoman official enslave Muslim refugees? This signifies really a greater reality that few are noticing. In this history, Germany wanted to use Muslim refugees, and the Ottomans also wanted to use them; but here is the operative word: use. Today, Germany is using the Muslim refugees for a political agenda, and many people within the right-wing are acting as though Germany is being used by Turkey, or that it is some slave to Turkey for the cause of  “multiculturalism.”

But here is the reality: Turkey also is using the refugees, and to a great extent, hates the refugees. Turkish border patrol guards will in fact open fire on refugees trying to enter Turkey. Apparently, Ankara cares more about its own agenda than its own fellow Muslims. Both Germany and Turkey could care less about helping poor refugees in the name of compassion. They both have an agenda, and if we are to look into history and see how these two countries conspired together, we can see that there is something eerily diabolical being devised. One of the most liberating experiences is to know what evils are being contrived behind the distractions that rivet the masses.

The camps in Germany that were used to hold these Muslim refugees were not just for military recruitment, but also for eugenist research. ‘Researchers’ would enter the camp and actually measure the skulls and the bodies of the Muslim men, a situation that was a part of the eugenist trend that would eventually escalate to the Nazi death camps and the horrific human experiments that would be conducted in the Third Reich.

So the Germans used these refugees not just as soldiers, but also for eugenics, and Turkey did not care at all, having no moral issue with enslaving them. It appears that the past is about to rhyme with the present. Germany has brought in multitudes of fighting aged men from the Middle East that would be potential recruits, and at the same time their presence is stirring up Nazi eugenist sympathies. Could the German government one day use the refugees as recruits for their army? In one report that came out last year, it says that “Germany has struggled to find enough recruits in recent years after the country put an end to conscription back in 2011.” In the same report it says that the German Defense Minister “Ursula von der Leyen has backed the idea of allowing non-German EU nationals to join the Bundeswehr.”

Ursula von der Leyen

In a 2016 German media report, it says that “German Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen wants to employ refugees in the army.” While Ursula did say that the refugees would be trained only in “crafts” such as technology, medicine and logistics in order to help rebuild Syria, she also said that “if there is a responsible government in the country [Syria], Germany can also support the training of security forces in the country.” Could this be future killing squads for Germany and Turkey? Time will tell, but it would not be surprising given the history of these two countries.

In order for the Syrian refugees to be trained for combat, they would have to have German citizenship. However, this rule could actually change, since Ursula wants to make it so that non-German EU citizens could join the Bundeswehr. It would not be surprising to see one day these refugees being integrated as EU citizens and then the abel-bodied men amongst them recruited for the German military.  

Both the Germans and the Ottomans used each other to fight the allies. Thousands of Germans fought in the Ottoman Empire during the First World War. One of the more famous Germans who fought for the Ottomans was Rudolf Hesse, who would later become a major member of the Nazi party, and is currently one of the idols of neo-Nazis. Hesse recounted the intense moment of warfare in his first battle, when he fought against a number of Indian soldiers fighting for the British. “Meanwhile the Turks had been driven forward once more,” wrote Hesse, “and a counterattack was launched. …During the advance I glanced with some trepidation and nervousness at my dead man, and I did not feel very happy about it all. I cannot say whether I killed or wounded any more Indians during the battle, although I had aimed and fired at the enemy who emerged from behind cover. I was too excited about the whole thing.” Hesse would continue to fight for the Ottoman Empire, partaking in battles in Jerusalem and the Hejaz. He was awarded both a German Iron Cross, and a Muslim Turkish Iron Crescent. (See Ihrig, Ataturk in the Nazi Imagination, prologue, pp. 4-5)

Rudolf Hesse

GERMANY AND THE KOSOVO WAR

If you think that the pact between German and Muslim was exclusively in the First and Second World Wars, lets travel forward to the 1990s: the decade in which German diplomacy began to die; the decade in which Germany helped start the Kosovo War, arming and training Albanian nazis so as to advance German hegemony, just as their Nazi ancestors tried to control the Balkans. Nothing changes but the faces of the ones who want to make an ocean of blood.

After the Second World War, Germany was made to be a country, no longer for war, but for diplomacy and peace making. But this all began to crumble, in the 1990s, when the Germans began to instigate a war in Kosovo, against the Serbs and in favor for the Muslim pro-Nazi Albanians. The Germans began to arm and train Albanian nationalists, and was instrumental in the founding of the the KLA, or the Kosovo Liberation Army, so that they could attack Serbian authorities. What is most interesting about this situation, is that the Germans wanted to dominate the Balkans in the First World War, and they wanted to do the same in the Second World War, and recruited Albanians, Bosnians, Croatians and Ukrainians into the Nazi SS, so that they could slaughter Serbs, and control that region. The Second World War eventually came to an end in 1945, and people generally would believe that Germany would never return to the warpath, but in the 90s the Germans would train the descendants of the Albanian Nazis, that is, members of the KLA, to accomplish the very mission of the Nazis and their predecessors, to control Serbia.

The reputable German intellectual, Matthias Kuntzel, wrote a very revealing and detailed article, entitled Germany and Kosovo, back in the year 2000 on Germany’s role in starting the Kosovo War in the 90s, and it is from this article that I take most of my information on this event. As we read in Kuntzel’s report, since the 1990s, Germany has been wanting to pursue “self-determination,” to break the shackles what was placed on it since the end of the Second World War and expand German influence and hegemony. The German government believed, and still believes, that the only way to have stability in Europe is to have Germany no longer remain in its controlled position. As Rupert Scholz, the former German secretary of defense, explained:

“The aim of maintaining ‘stability’ in Europe seems to be a most dangerous one. There will not be any real stability, which is able to maintain peace, if individual nations are held prisoner in unwanted and unnatural (“unnatürliche”) state organizations, which have been imposed upon them.”

Rupert Scholz

In other words, Germany wants to return back to its days of military power and strength, as opposed to remaining in the position that has been “imposed” on it. Germany wanted the same thing for the country of Albania. To the Germans, Albania was entrapped within Yugoslavia, and in the name of the racialist ideology of “self-determination,” deserved to become an independent country.

In the year 1991, an envoy from the German parliament (the Bundestag), arrived in Kosovo to have a meeting with leaders of the Albanian nationalist movement. Once this happened, a senior member of the Yugoslavian parliament was stirred to declare that “the British and the Germans would create a common intervention force with 70,000 soldiers in order to intervene in Kosovo.” The prediction would end up manifesting into a reality. In 1995, the German president, Roman Herzog, was in a meeting in the Albanian capital city of Tirana, in which Germany and Albania signed a common declaration of principle, promising a “solution to the Kosovo question” by pushing for the “self-determination” of Kosovo’s Albanians, that is, their right to secede from Yugoslavia.

The Germans began a program in which they secretly trained and armed pro-Nazi Albanian nationalists, and thus facilitating the creation of the Kosovo Liberation Army. In a 1998 European report, it says: “German civil and military intelligence services have been involved in training and equipping the rebels with the aim of cementing German influence in the Balkan area.”

The Germans were now arming and training the sons and grandsons of the Albanian Nazis that they had recruited into the SS Skanderberg Division. Another influence on the KLA was the National Front of Albania (or Balli Kombëtar), a political organization that allied with the Nazis during the Second World War. As Matthias Kuntzel explains:

Just like 1991 Germany again supported a movement with a background rooted in the Nazi past, because the KLA is partly led by the sons and grandsons of extreme right-wing Albanian fighters, the heirs of those who fought during World War II in the fascist militias and the ‘Skanderbeg Volunteer SS Division’ raised by the Nazis. The ‘National Front of Albania’ (Balli Kombetar) which collaborated with Nazi leaders in 1943/44 today boasts about its influence within the KLA which has a program that seems to be a modified version of the 1943 Nazi utopia. Thus the program of “ethnic cleansing” which Germany exported into the Balkans in 1941 remained alive within the movement of the Kosovo Albanian nationalists during the 80s.

These KLA terrorists, while being Muslims, were really successors of their German Nazi allies of the past, and they were continuing the relationship between a pro-Nazi Albania and Germany. In a 1982 article published by the New York Times, it was explained that the mission of the KLA was “to establish what they call an ethnically clean Albanian republic and then the merger with Albania to form a greater Albania.” They wanted an Albania  “free of Jews”, “free of Gypsies” and “free of Serbs”.

Albanian Muslim nazis, holding the decapitated heads of their Serbian victims

The United States was reportedly upset over Germany’s operation in starting an armed rebellion in the Balkans, with editor Johann Georg Reißmüller of the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (a German daily newspaper) writing in 1997: “The US government is not at all happy with Germany’s policy in Kosovo”. The KLA would make attacks on the Serbian police, sparking a violent conflict, and thus destabilization commenced.

The Germans began to push the Americans when the Clinton administration was, in the words of Die Zeit, “still uncertain about how to deal with the crises” in the Balkans. A senior official of the German foreign office was sent to Washington to push the deputy secretary of state, Strobe Talbott, telling him: “We urgently need U.S. leadership now”. Between March of 1998 and March of 1999, the Germans continued this pressure on the Americans. The US government was in fact split between two opinions: one that stated that the KLA should be supported against Milosevic, and the other that said that Milosevic should be allowed to crush the Albanian terrorists. Washington ended up pushing the Germans to cease providing weapons to the KLA, and declared that the KLA were involved in terrorist activities. The newspaper, The European, stated in a 1998 report:   

“Washington realised that pushing the Kosovars towards a military confrontation with Milosevic, as the Germans wanted to do, would have a boomerang effect on the Balkans. The United States put maximum pressure on Germany to stop supporting the KLA behind the scenes, as did the other European countries such as Britain and France.”

The KLA, in accordance to plan, continued its attacks on Serbian police officers, provoking them to counterattack, thus carrying on the conflict. The attempt by the United States to supposedly de-escalate the situation failed because of the continual flow of arms and the continuous recruitment of mercenaries for the KLA. In the summer of 1998, the United Nations, alongside the majority of NATO counties, including the US, persisted on cutting off the flow of arms into the hands of the KLA. Even Fatos Nano, the head of the Albanian government agreed with this and disassociated himself with the KLA. On the KLA destabilizing Nano’s government, the British academic, James Pettifer, writes:

“In 1998, full-scale violence erupted in Kosovo as the Albanian militants of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) attempted to wrest control of the disputed Yugoslav province of Serbia. This soon succeeded in destabilizing the fragile Nano government.” (Source: Pettifer, Albania: The Democratic Deficit In The Post-Communist Period)

NATO wanted to send 7,000 troops into Albania to cut off the arms flow for the KLA. Germany rejected NATO’s attempt to do this, with the head of the German foreign office saying:

“Of course you have to consider whether you are permitted from a moral and ethnical point of view to prevent the Kosovo-Albanians from buying weapons for their self-defense.”

The head of the German Ministry of Defense, Volker Ruhe, said:

“You cannot resolve the Kosovo conflict by sending troops to Albania to seal the border and thus be acting in favor of Milosevic.”

Volker Ruhe

German media was ecstatic to find out that Germany was successful in pushing for NATO forces to support Germany’s cause in Kosovo. The influential Frankfurter Allgemeine wrote that Germany had “given evidence of its preparedness to lead”. The New York Times reported: “German officials seem increasingly inclined towards charting a military course to stop the violence in Kosovo.” But Germany did not want to stop the violence, they were acting as saviors to a problem that they helped begin. 

The Germans wanted to bomb Serbia, even though Germany was suppose to be a nation of peace and diplomacy on account of its Nazi past. A New York Times article from 1998 shows how the Christian Democrat, Volker Ruhe, was pushing for the bombing of Serbia, and how Germany was offering its own bombers to carry this out:

Military and civilian officials here did not give details of their plans for air strikes, which include both a ‘’limited air option’ (strikes by American ship-based cruise missiles against Serbian military targets in Kosovo and beyond) and a ”phased air campaign” (attacks on command headquarters inside Serbia).

‘Something has to happen soon; we can’t just sit back now,’ said Germany’s Defense Minister, Volker Ruhe, who also said he was worried about damage to the alliance’s credibility.

Mr. Ruhe said Germany was prepared to contribute 14 Tornado fighter-bombers to an air campaign, and called on the alliance to issue an ultimatum within the next 10 days if Mr. Milosevic does not keep his repeated promises to end the attacks.

In 1994, Volker Ruhe affirmed that the German army would be “an instrument of foreign policy.” By this time, Germany became the second largest arms exporter, after the United States. And after Germany’s reunification, thanks to the fall of the Berlin Wall, Germany had 350,000 soldiers, the largest army in Europe. (See Martin Lee, The Beast Reawakens, p. 284)

WW1 AND SERBIA — THE STORY CONTINUES

The biggest misconception about World War One, is that it was started because the Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife Sophie were murdered in Bosnia by a Serbian nationalist named Gavrilo Princip. The assassination of the Archduke and his wife did not cause the First World War, rather it provided the occasion and the pretext by which Germany and the Austro-Hungarian Empire could start a war with not just Serbia, but the whole Entente, that is, Russia, Great Britain, France and Italy.

Even before the assassination occurred, the Germans were planning on making a war, only waiting for the right situation in which they could justify making their attack. In 1913, the German military leader, Helmuth von Moltke, warned against the idea of making a war without the right circumstances. Moltke wanted a war, believing in an apocalyptic envisioning in which Germans and Slavs would fight for world power. He once said “that a European war is bound to come sooner or later, in which the issue will be one of a struggle between Germandom and Salvdom.” But while wanting blood, Moltke, in all of his conniving ways, said: “When starting a world war one has to think very carefully.”

Moltke worked closely with the Chief of the General Staff of the Austro-Hungarian Army and Navy, Franz Conrad von Hotzendorf, who was planning on a war to destroy Serbia dozens of times before the assassination even happened. In the words of the Scottish military historian Hew Strachan:

“Conrad first proposed preventive war against Serbia in 1906 and he did so again in 1908-9, in 1912-13, in October 1913, and May 1914: between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914 he proposed a Serbian war twenty-five times.”

Franz Conrad von Hotzendorf

Why were the Germans so fixated on vanquishing and conquering the Slavs? It was all based on Social-Darwinism, in the belief that the German race must dominate the Slavic people. The Kaiser of Germany himself, Wilhelm II, said in October 23 of 1913: “The Slavs are born not to rule but to obey.” The reason as to why the Germans wanted to dominate the Slavs, be they Catholic Poles or Orthodox Serbs, was the same reason as to why the Germans instigated the attack on Serbia in the 1990s: a eugenist envisioning of Germanic domination over those they deem as inferior.

Wilhelm II stated, before the assassination of the Archduke, that “if Russia supports the Serbs, which she evidently does … then war would be unavoidable for us, too.” Helmuth von Moltke, prior to the assassination, said: “I believe a war is unavoidable and the sooner the better.” However, Moltke calculatively said that before a war could be done, “we ought to do more through the press” in order to foster popular support for a war against Russia. The Germans were very calculative. Before the assassination of the Archduke, the German government was hoping that Austria would be attacked, so that Austria would make the decision to go to war so as to make Germany appear as merely a defending nation. The German Chancellor, Theobald von Bethmann Hollweg, explained this strategy to the Kaiser:

“If it comes to a war, we must hope that Austria is attacked so that she needs our help and not that we are attacked so that it would depend on Austria’s decision whether she will remain faithful to the alliance.”

Theobald von Bethmann Hollweg

The Germans had itchy trigger fingers that were yet tempered by their cunningness. This mentality was reflected in how they saw the situation between Bosnia and Austria-Hungary. In 1908, the Austro-Hungarian Empire administered Bosnia-Herzegovina while the province was nominally ruled by the Islamic Ottoman Empire. Turk and German ruled over this land, as part of an agreement that was made in the late nineteenth century. In the year 1878, at the Congress of Berlin, the Turks and their Germanic allies agreed that the Ottoman Empire would own Bosnia-Herzegovina, but that Austria-Hungary would have the authority to occupy that land with its troops.

In 1908, the Dual Monarchy of the Austro-Hungarian government declared that it was going to annex Bosnia-Herzegovina. It did so by brokering a horrible deal with Russia. The Austrian diplomat, Alois Lexa Von Aehrenthal had promised the foreign secretary of Russia, Alexander Izvolsky, that if Bosnia-Herzegovina would be annexed, that the Dual-Monarchy would provide easy access for Russia to travel through Constantinople and the Straits. This of course was a lie. Bosnia-Herzegovina was annexed, and Russia was in fact pressured by Berlin to not react. What is interesting about this story is not just the deception that was used, but the reaction of Helmuth von Moltke. Moltke was in fact disappointed that the Bosnian situation did not lead to war, warning that such an opportunity: “will not come so soon again under such propitious circumstances.”

What all of this proves is that Germany has a reputation of wanting bad situations to take place, so as to use them to justify militarism and aggression. The Germans planned out their war against the Slavs and the Entente, and then used the assassination of the Archduke to then act as defenders, when in reality they were seekers of any occasions by which to start war against nations who had no interest in going to arms with Germany. The assassination of the Archduke, in the words of historian David Fromkin, “was not, however, the reason that the Dual Monarchy sought to destroy Serbia. It could not have been the reason, for, Franz Ferdinand apart, the Hapsburg leaders wanted to destroy Serbia before the assassination.”

As part of the goal of racial domination, amongst the objections was to eliminate Serbia as “a factor of political power in the Balkans.” The Austrians didn’t want Serbia to simply surrender, they wanted Serbia to be utterly destroyed, or in the words of Fromkin, they wanted “to wipe it off the map.” As the Germans and Austrians were devising their bloodbath, they made sure to put up an act to the world that everything was going well. The Austro-Hungarian politician, Count Leopold Berchtold, and the German diplomat, Theobald von Bethmann-Hollweg, believed in deceiving the other European countries by maintaining normal vacation schedules for government officials, in order to create an illusion of peace.

Berchtold told his war minister and his army chief of staff to go on vacations “to prevent any disquiet.” The Austrian Emperor Franz Joseph also went on vacation, while Chancellor Bethmann retired to the countryside. Moltke took a trip to the famous spa in Carlsbad and the foreign minister left to enjoy his honeymoon. The German grand admiral, Alfred von Tirpitz, also went on vacation. It was all done to create the illusion that everything was normal, when behind closed doors a conspiracy was being done to bring the continent into one of the bloodiest conflicts in history.

In the words of Fromkin, “It was like a play in which everything of importance happens offstage.” (Much of the presented information on WW1 has been taken from Fromkin’s book, Europe’s Last Summer) And indeed, it is the reality today. Distractions are made for the world to see, while the conspiracies to bring mankind to ruin are devised behind the chaotic happenings of the moment.  The story of how Germany and Austria-Hungary managed to deceive the masses into believing in a false peace, goes to show how cunning they are in the art of mass deception. The deception is so deep, it will overtake the masses and have them look up to the despots as saviors from the very chaos that they created.

Germany and Turkey were instrumental in causing the migration crises that has so altered the political climate in Europe, which is making fascism and eugenics more and more favorable. What is the agenda? While we cannot give explicit details as to what they plan next, what we can say is that its nothing good. As Germany desired terrorism in the past, to justify war, I believe its doing the same with terrorism, hence why they brought in the migrants, knowing full well that the wake of jihadism in the country would provoke a bolstering for militarism. But so many are taken into sympathy for Germany, seeing it as a nation of peace and diplomacy. “But evil men and seducers shall grow worse and worse: erring, and driving into error.” (2 Timothy 3:13) The same deceived masses, filled with error and driving others into error, were very active before the eruption of the First World War.

In 1911, just three years before WW1 in 1914, the president of the University of California at Berkley, the Germanophile, Ide Wheeler, nominated Kaiser Wilhelm II for the Nobel Peace Prize. In 1913, a large number of articles were published in Germany, declaring the Kaiser as the Friedenskaiser, or “Emperor of Peace.” In June of 1913, the New York Times published an article by Alfred Fried, the founder of the German peace movement, that stated this about the Kaiser of Germany:

“His glory as a man of peace, great enough now, will become greater, and his wish to figure in history as a hero of peace will be fulfilled.” (See Emmerson, 1913, p. 77)

With this are we reminded of the words of St. Paul: “For when they shall say, peace and security; then shall sudden destruction come upon them, as the pains upon her that is with child, and they shall not escape.” (1 Thessalonians 5:3)     

Turkey and Germany, two nations of genocide, created this migration crises in Europe. What is the end goal, but tyranny? And while the world looks to Germany with sympathy and hope, we marvel ourselves to our own destruction. Germany wanted Serbia in WW1, and worked with the Ottoman Empire; near the end of the First World War, the German general, Erich Ludendorff, envisioned the Social-Darwinistic removal of two million Poles from Polish territory that Germany wanted to annex for the cause of pan-Germanism (see Tooze, The Deluge, ch. 6, p. 135). The leopard did not change its spots. In the Second World War, the Nazis, in conjunction with Albanian and Bosnian SS officers, butchered millions of Catholic Poles and Orthodox Serbs. In the 1990s, Germany worked with Albanian nazis and instigated a NATO strike on Serbia. What has changed, but the face behind which evil doers spill blood? And since the battle stems from principalities in dark places, the objective is ultimately to slaughter Christian Catholics and Christian Orthodox. It is an evil conspiracy that did not begin on earth, but in the minds of the demons of the abyss: “For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.” (Ephesians 6:12) 

Ultimately, it is a war done by protestants to slaughter the true Christians, the ones who can trace their Church all the way to Christ and the Apostles, the Catholics and the Orthodox.

Turkey and Germany, Crescent and Swastika, united in their thirst for carnage; when the scimitar shaped moon, and its Protestant ally rise again, maybe then, will Christendom arise for one more battle, for the soul of humanity. The nazis have never left us, they only changed their faces. Evil is continuously adapting, what never adapts are the masses that follow it.

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  • infowolf1

    what about Slovenia? combined RC and Orthodox population of 61.1% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovenia#Religion it was the first breakaway from Yugoslavia and I think had German backing.

  • Filip

    Why am I not surprised…There is nothing new under the sun. History repeats itself.. like a multifaceted mirror reflecting what the previous did.

    • Kamau41

      Well put Filip.

  • luis
    • AnthonyM

      That link has extra characters at the end which throws a 404 Uh-Oh error.
      And it is news from 2014?

      • luis

        I went back to check the link on my Twitter feed and it indeed looks like it’s a story from 2014 not sure why it was posted now sorry I’ll remove it

  • Vinny Zee

    One of the first things I ever read here was about the Muslim/German collaboration in the Holocaust (and in war). This helped me greatly as I studied the fall of the Ottomans after WWI. Very interesting analysis.

    Just recently learning more about the Italo-Albanian-Greek Byzantine Church in Sicily and southern Italy. There is a huge Greek influence of culture and Christianity in southern Italy and Sicily and then we had the influx of the Albanian Christians who fled the Muslims. One may think Italy to be mainly Latin in Rite. However, one would be surprised to learn about the huge Greek influence that is in Italy. This is coupled with the Albanian migration after Muslim persecution.

    • racarrera

      I saw exactly the same thing in Naples. It was definitely influenced by the Greek culture.

      • Vinny Zee

        I personally believe and have for a while now, the eastern rite of the Catholic Church will end up saving the Catholic Church. Some feel it will be the traditionalists within the Roman Rite. I worry this may not be the case, because the Traditionalists are increasingly being seen as schismatic with the Roman Catholic Church. However, the Byzantine/Eastern Rite churches are not seen in this light and are often encouraged to maintain their rites. With this said, it is well known among the Eastern Catholics that it is not the Pope they fear, but those around the Pope. Often they see that there are forces within the Curia who are for the destruction of the eastern rite churches. The Byzantine churches don’t number what they used to in Italy and the Uniates have typically been brushed aside in the West. However, though many don’t see it now, I believe it will be the lighthouse to which many will flee as modernism continues to flourish and spill over in some sectors.

        Hope you had a blessed Pascha brother.

        • Filip

          It might as well be so. We need to watch Turkey’s every step in these following years. The “frogs” will go out to grab all nations on its side.. deceiving them with peace.. telling each king what they want to hear. Our brothers and sisters are getting butchered in the Middle East, and I feel very sad that the media is simply not reporting all these incidents and brushes everything under the carpet as soon as it comes out.. People are more concerned about legalizing gay marriage and child adoption (ew) or what new sins the latest movie star is doing noawadays.. praising fornication/gossip/immorality..

          “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For
          in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying
          and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark.…”

  • While reading this essay (excellent work, by the way), I had this mental picture of seeing the map where Germany controlled Europe, the Turks controlled the Middle East, and Japan controlling Asia, essentially breaking up mankind into thirds.

    If this is the case, would it be possible this is by design to isolate Russia – since some Russia Orthodox Christians believes that Moscow became third Rome after the fall of Constantinople (then the Eastern Roman Empire, or Byzantine Empire) – and to also have Germany from the north and west and the Ottoman from the south and east to, in a classic pincer maneuver, isolate the Vatican?

  • Shane Bass

    Great article Theo, just ordered your book and can’t wait to read it. Looking forward to the next in depth analysis.

  • Indian Christian Crusader

    Someone has written very evil things about Theodore and Walid – http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Theodore_Shoebat

    The writers of this website should be sued for writing such articles and personal defematory attacks.

    • Darren Neufeldt

      Just from a quick Google search I would say that this is from a left wing nut job group that is so far up the liberal agenda’s tailpipe that they aren’t even worth the time to look them up. They attack anything that is even remotely considered conservative in nature and twist it to make themselves look saintly. They aren’t even the Parent group, that’s a group called People For the American Way founded by a Norman Lear who is, and is a supporter of “Progressive” causes, which can be anything they disagree with at the moment that they deem anti-progressive. As a note here, George Soros is a major donor to the parent group People for the American Way.

      • Grandmere

        Chop, chop!!

        • Darren Neufeldt

          Working as fast as I can.

    • More blessing for the Shoebat.

    • DeusLoVult

      Never heard of the ‘rational wiki’, eh? Don’t bother with them. It is run by atheists of a pretentious and mocking demeanor. Their disposition towards Christianity is vitriolic at best.

  • jami

    Very intelligently designed and researched Ted. Every piece you write on Germany is interesting for me. Wot ever uv written about the German mindset exists in every German individual as I come across on a daily basis.they are totally pressurising EGAL. Scheizer .
    God bless you Ted

  • Do you have enough intelligence to show exact quotes from inside an article or are you always generalizing just to waste our time approving quick and dirty comments that makes claims without any detail?

    • infowolf1

      Walid that is the message I come away with, but also the eugenic and mythic motives seem to dominate not the religious is another message I come away with. Here is the exact quote that the semi quote or paraphrase you mocked very strongly resembles:

      “Ultimately, it is a war done by protestants to slaughter the true Christians, the ones who can trace their Church all the way to Christ and the Apostles, the Catholics and the Orthodox.

      Turkey and Germany, Crescent and Swastika, united in their thirst for carnage; when the scimitar shaped moon, and its Protestant ally rise again, maybe then, will Christendom arise for one more battle, for the soul of humanity.” right near the end of the article.

      • “Walid that is the message I come away with, but also the eugenic and mythic motives seem to dominate not the religious is another message I come away with.”

        I agree. I will do a Sunday Special for you next week to reveal you are correct here. The Eugenists are mentioned in the Bible.

        “Ultimately, it is a war done by protestants to slaughter the true Christians, the ones who can trace their Church all the way to Christ and the Apostles, the Catholics and the Orthodox.”

        Indeed. Many American Evangelicals get offended about what I am saying here, but they do not have a clue about European Protestantism. The two are different in many ways.

  • ” Croatia aligned with Nazis and Muslims and were called Ustashi”

    If you look up Ustashi and Shoebat you will find we have written in detail on that.

  • “Using historical contrivances and temporary alliances during past wars to predict the future is not prudent or even coegently predictive.”

    You mean to tell me that England and the U.S., are not likely to ally in future war if Germany starts its evil again?

    “For instance, Martin Luther thinking the Moors were God’s retribution against Rome does not mean that modern Germans see Erdogan as the punishing hand of God.”

    So Protestants in Germany are no longer ‘Protestant’? Protestants do not see Rome as to be destroyed? This is gone from Protestant theology?

    Care to debate this? Are you telling me that Protestantism repented from calling Rome the “Harlot of Babylon”?

    I have been dealing with such slander from Protestants for two decades and a half.

    For instance, Martin Luther thinking the Moors were God’s retribution against Rome does not mean that modern Germans see Erdogan as the punishing hand of God.

    • infowolf1

      uh, how many protestants who give a hoot are left in Germany? isn’t it mostly secularized and atheistic or whatever like France? the cooperation with turkey was more on eugenic and mythic not prot anti Rome per se reasons originally anyway in WW I wasn’t it?

      • apparently you missed the memo where we explained how it was from Protestants the Evolution was born.

  • No shame on YOU “Shame on you Ted for saying the “only True Christians” are Catholics”

    Never wrote that. Do you ever learn how to show exact quotes?

    Shame on you.

    • infowolf1

      the statement as such was not written, but the message was that that Prots would work with islam to destroy true Christians which not incl. prots must be RC and Orthodox. HOWEVER I am increasingly inclined to think prots except for Jesus following individuals but as a category of doctrines are not true Christians or barely so.

  • “Thank you very much for showing your true colours shoebat.com.”

    You are very welcome.

    “Since when you’ve split the body of Christ as protestants and Catholics,”

    Never knew that Christ’s Body was hacked in half. He was crucified to later have Luther split the Church.

    Why are you blaming me instead of blaming Luther?

    “I knew not to follow this site.”

    Never follow any site. You are supposed to follow Christ.

    “For Christ never created a religion”

    This then would mean that Christ NEVER created Protestantism. Why are you then bent out of shape?

    “yet u believe a religion which though I may be protestant”

    This means you are part of a religion too: Protestant.

    “I never even thought about but only concentrated on my relationship with God. For if the God you profess is going to judge based on religion, I can assuredly say that that’s not the Lord God your professing. Sorry that I followed this site in the first place.”

    Never heard of you Kumar and ya, I agree with you. You are very confused individual.

  • “So to be a true Christian you have to be a Catholic? Can you show me where Jesus said such a thing. ”

    Listen Barry, I am not the Bible Answer Man to sit here all day long answering childish questions about Catholics and Orthodox being in the Bible or not. If you want your cracker Jack questions answered just call Hank Hanegraaff the Bible Answer Man and he will be glad to direct you to the right verses. Okay?

  • Can you be kind enough and spread your message all over the place? I found out that negative adds helps … a lot.

  • If you have a complaint about the Pope, why don’t you post your comment at the Vatican’s website? This article is not about the Pope.

    • I guess they never heard of a caliph who financed the Protestant revolution against the Catholics in order to weaken and make Europe ripe for conquest.

  • Thank you Mon Chat.

  • Okay Don, I got it, Turkey Good, Germany Great. Rome very very very bad.

    Did I finally get it right?

    So lets see:

    A) the Muslim says Rome is bad.
    B) You say Rome is bad.

    Mind if I asked whats the difference between you and the Muslim?

    You might respond with that you believe in Jesus.

    Well, the Muslim too says he believes in Jesus.

    You might respond with, “yes, but the Muslim rejects the Trinity”

    But I will counter with: it was the Catholics who finally coined the term “the Trinity”.

    • Dan

      First Good morning Walid and God bless Shoebat.com

      Walid, the difference between a Muslim and a Christian is a muslim believes it’s ok to lie and a Christian doesn’t.
      Big difference.
      The idea that Islam promotes Lying to serve their God is hilarious and it’s a wonder how anyone would follow this absurd ideology which is why I would ask you why did you follow it Walid?

      I try to keep an open mind but people are looking at Rome because it’s not a good example of the seat of Christianity ; which it most definitely should be; without exception.

      What example that represents God has a history full of priest that rape children ?
      Now, you have a pope that says to homosexality ; who am I to judge?
      Now you have a pope who says ; we all worship the same God ; namely muslims.

      Rome is desperately sick Walid that’s why Christians point to it for end time prophecy.
      Christians also Wrongly condemn Catholics for what Rome is doing and it’s also wrong to do so because we should be in this together because most importantly We all believe in the Gospel.
      But, then we got to throw Works into it so now we can’t even come together on the Gospel.

      Surely this state of the Christian church must make a muslim laugh to say the least.

      The Whole Church is desperately sick Walid and as a former Muslim you despite obviously being good at eschatology and who claim to be Christian ; worry me because you do things like compare muslims to christians which makes no sense.
      You also have a certain disdain for Americans which you often show in your comments. Which I don’t understand because you don’t do it to anyone else.

      Islam is a vile ideology Walid and it makes no sense as to why people follow it. It’s history alone because of how it started should have been good enough reason for its doom.

      The only answer I can come up with is ; the dark one is behind it.

      Walid, I’m glad you profess to be a christian and I’m glad you show the atrocities of Islam but you make me wonder brother with your comments.

      No one knows for sure be it Rome or Saudi Arabia so we watch and support each other because we’re Christians.
      We don’t believe our God supports lying as a means to an end to gain glory and that alone is enough for me to know Islam is garbage.

      A muslim rejects the trinity No Walid a Muslim is joined in
      the sons of darkness so
      Don’t compare Christians to muslims Walid because Islam has nothing to do with God.

      Mind if I ask what’s the difference between you and Muslims ?

      I’m not trying to be a Troll Walid but

      You cannot compare the two and you should know that brother.

      • “Now, you have a pope that says to homosexality ; who am I to judge? Now you have a pope who says ; we all worship the same God ; namely muslims. Rome is desperately sick Walid”

        Then you write:

        “The Whole Church is desperately sick Walid”

        You called what was “sick” “the whole church” which by your own admission you state that the church is fallen away.

        What then falls away? The true Church or the false church which was never ‘church’ to begin with?

        Which of the two has a true root? There are only two choices.

        “and as a former Muslim you despite obviously being good at eschatology and who claim to be Christian ; worry me because you do things like compare muslims to christians which makes no sense.”

        Hold on one minute. You just stated that the Pope accepted Islam as a true religion. If so, should we not compare the Pope with the Muslim?

        “You also have a certain disdain for Americans which you often show in your comments. Which I don’t understand because you don’t do it to anyone else.”

        O get out of here Dan, you flip on a dime and you show zero quotes. I was talking to you for years and you are an “American”. I put up with all sorts of silly accusations from you. You are always trying to bait me as un-American.

        • Dan

          Walid, you should read my post more carefully because if you did I do not agree with the pope ;you do,but I accept that he is a christian which means he’s right on the most important thing and that is belief in the gospel.

          Walid you have a bad habit of twisting things around when your upset with me; I think for dramatic effect.

          NO Walid the pope is wrong about Islam; that is the point you miss. Maybe it’s because you forget I’m not catholic.

          Walid, your the one that still teases me about our spat over your comment “most Americans are complainers ”
          Where’s that thick skin brother? You also made the comment about most Americans worship Washington and think the constitution is from God; which quite frankly isn’t funny and is ridiculous. But it does show contempt towards Americans.. But, hey Walid I can take the shot because how you feel about Americans is understandable in the context of the American government which I will admit has done terrible things in the past.

          In fact I would bet it wasn’t the English that diced your beloved land up and colonized it. I wouldn’t doubt the American government was behind it somehow.

          I’ve never been on board with how the state of Israel was formed Walid but it fits perfect into why a Jewish temple would not be from God.

          But, Islam also fits in so many ways into an end time scenario.
          I almost hit the floor when I found out the Muslim mahdi would have Jesus at his side.
          How perfect is that for an antichrist ?

          Walid,. I flip on a dime when you think it is ok to compare the Christian faith with Islam because it’s insulting.

          God chose Abraham for a reason so long ago and the Jewish people have steadfastly and painstakingly kept an account of the Torah for thousands of years to date and NO one else can say that; especially freaking Muslims !
          Christianity followed as it should have.
          However, Islam followed 500yrs after Christianity ; and not only plagiarized the old testament but the new testament as well. Muhammad started out as a beggar with a rich mistress ; who was afraid to spread his doctrine in the beginning for fear of death. How pathetic is that?
          Lucifer itself is the father of Islam ; in fact I believe the reason muslims have lying acceptable in their doctrine is because God is making it apparent to his sheep this doctrine is false and Only those that insist on being ignorant will follow Islam. Oh I have no doubt Lucifer didn’t want that in there but it’s there. But it does leave us really with no excuse.

          Walid, I have done enough research to know enough about you and if your message was even 1iota less I would not be here because some of your past is troubling brother.
          The interview with CNN was damning and the interview with one of your family members who was saying you never were in the PLO was shocking to hear.
          But, it’s the past Walid and it’s something about your message that has me here. When I said I believe God lead me here for a reason I believe it Walid and I’m hoping it’s because we will find the antichrist together.

          But you do have your sycophant’s here Walid and I can’t blame you for that but I do wonder if they’ve done their
          due diligence before jumping in feet first here.

          It’s your statements that don’t jibe with your message brother and that is what bothers me.

          Let me also say this ;despite what some have said about Theo, in my opinion he’s the glue that helps because he sets a good example and he comes across as sincere and honest. I hope he’s a reflection of you Walid.

          You’re on my bucket list Walid and I hope to fulfill it by meeting you someday in person. Maybe I’ll stop by the next time I visit Thailand.

          Blessings to you Walid

          • Raph Sebastian

            { Walid, I have done enough research to know enough about you and if your message was even 1 iota less I would not be here because some of your past is troubling brother.
            The interview with CNN was damning and the interview with one of your family members who was saying you never were in the PLO was shocking to hear.}

            So you “did your own homework” and concluded that Walid was lying because CNN and you have made up your minds. So the hit piece and “interview” with “one of Walid’s family member” cemented Walid’s truthfulness about his past for you. You are more convinced of your own opinions than that of a man who was open about his own past.

            Have you for one second read Walid’s side of the story? I know you didn’t, because if you did you would have tries to allude that Walid was not truthful about his past.

            But then why do you come here and listen or read from a man you inherently have stated as untruthful?

            You know what slanderers do right? When they cannot disprove the veracity of what one says, or when they dislike what one has to say, they attack the person that told the truth. Liar will always be aggressive and such aggression must be met with equal aggression, period.

            Sheesh..I guess you and Anderson Cooper have a lot in common. Next thing I know you’d be calling Walid an islamophobic, homophobic, Palestinian bigot who mocks falafel sellers.

          • Grandmere

            And the flame thrower went “woosh”! Good job, Raph.

          • Dan

            So you “did your own homework” and concluded that Walid was lying because CNN and you have made up your minds

            If you read my post you would know I didn’t say that .

            Raph, my problem with Walid is his comparisons between Islam and Christianity ; a comparison that should never be made.

            But then why do you come here and listen or read from a man you inherently have stated as untruthful?

            No, that’s your words Raph, for a drama that isn’t there because I didn’t say that , and is a straw man for an argument I don’t want to have with you.

            Instead tell me why you believe in an ideology that supports lying for any reason and then tell me why you believe Islam is comparable to Christianity?

            Raph : and Next thing I know you’d be calling Walid an islamophobic, homophobic, Palestinian bigot who mocks falafel sellers.

            No Raph you’re just a big ole Drama Queen who just wants to argue.

            Reread my post Raph and get back to me when you can be an adult who asks sincere questions rather than make up charges you want to argue over.

          • Grandmere

            Dan, how many times must we tell you guy that “compare” is no the same as “equate”????? I can compare a cactus to a palm tree because they are both plants. But I can never equate the two. The Pope has never equated Islam to Christianity.

          • Dan

            GM, you’re comparing apples to oranges and I shouldn’t have to explain to you why. It literally sucks all the energy out of me but I do appreciate that you’ve stayed out of this up to now.

          • I have been reading your comments for a while and avoided replying to you but this time I’m going to say this.

            I have never seen, since being on the site since 2014, someone who flip flops more than you.

            I think it’s time for your sorry rear end to be tossed.

          • Dan

            The platform belongs to disqus Trevor and I haven’t violated its rules so ; too bad!

          • Basic concept like that eludes many it seem.

          • Raph Sebastian

            Your words insinuate that Walid cannot be trusted not mine, so let’s be honest.

            Really? A comparison between islam and Christianity should not be made? If the so called “christianity” is no different from islam then why the heck should it not be compared?

            Take for example Protestantism and islam. There are so many doctrinal similarities that it would be hard to separate the sects from islamic sects.

            What more when the Protestant sects actually deny the Divinity of Christ or the salvific nature of his flesh and blood.

            What more if islam and Protestantism are both iconoclastic.Should the reactions of the two not be compared? So you would rather not hear truth because it offends your sensibilities.

            You double down and cast aspersions on the veracity of Walid’s rebuttal of the CNN HITPIECE and then go further to say only sycophants would believe.

            So why are you reading from someone who you doubt as being truthful?

            Walid may not say this but I have always held that Protestantism is not authentic Christianity. There is only one Church the LORD founded and it’s certainly not Protestant.

          • Dan

            Thank you for reading my post Raph and I appreciate the civility.

            Your words insinuate that Walid cannot be trusted not mine, so let’s be honest.

            Ok, let’s be honest in hopes you’ll also be honest?

            You believe I insinuated it so shouldn’t you ask before casting aspersions towards me.
            Why should I fairly defend something I didn’t say; I shouldn’t have to?
            Now if you put the paragraph into context I said his past was in fact the past and his message was the reason why I am here.

            I also, showed respect to Walid in that I believe his son’s message is sincere and honest which I attributed to Walid.

            Raph this conversation was 3 days ago and Walid just left without finishing it. Why did he and why am I defending myself 3 days later from everyone except Walid?

            Remember, Walid and I were friends when this started so if we’re friends why not butt heads and have a beer . which is how Walid likes to explain his fiery temper and harsh words?
            Hey if this is a touchy subject why not tell me?

            But bring out the CNN interview or the tape with his uncle saying he was lying and now I’m the devil ? Why is that?

            Walid has a full biography of himself to explain who he was but no mention of this controversy; why?

            Why not include the facts of this in his history ; showing Walid vindicating himself with the justice he deserves ?
            I mean if people are always bring it up why not show his victory where he is proven the victim and is why we support him? Why not do that?

            No instead the subject was broached by me and again Walid’s only defense is his disgust in me bringing it up.

            What’s up with that ?

          • Dan,

            Its time to put a lid on your slanders once and for all and in public for all to see. Quit equivocating.

            Here are your own statements:

            “Walid, I have done enough research to know enough about you and if your message was even 1 iota less I would not be here because some of your past is troubling brother.
            The interview with CNN was damning and the interview with one of your family members who was saying you never were in the PLO was shocking to hear. But, it’s the past Walid and it’s something about your message that has me here.”

            What you stated clearly here without ambiguity is that you believed the slanders, but that since its my past, so be it.

            This is not the same as if you did not believe the slander. In other words, what your saying is ‘Walid, we know that you were bullshitting, but God forgives your past ….” “you made fake claims Walid but its in the past its okay.”

            Not so fast. You stated “Remember, Walid and I were friends when this started”.

            So historically you are telling Raph that you knew me and who I am for a very long time, according to you we are “friends”.
            By the way, Are you Dan whom I knew from the Messianic Church in Walnut Creek? Or are you a different Dan? I know several Dans.

            You then sent a dead link, when the link is here:

            http://shoebat.com/shoebat-foundation/evidence-of-my-credentials/

            Its practically an entire book with all sorts of evidence and refutation of CNN.

            Regarding my cousin (his name is Dad Hassan) I will be brief but the detail is in the link.

            CNN’s Jerusalem Bureau KNEW that Daood Hassaan Shoebat is a relative of famed terrorist Arin Shoebat and Raed Khalil Awadallah Shoebat and Ziad Shoebat (Hamas) whom Daood is their uncle are terrorists and is sympathetic to terrorism which was disclosed to CNN on July 14th to Cooper and Robinson.

            Leaving all that out CNN insinuated that Walid was lying when he says that his family vouched to the truth of the matter bringing in a 4th cousin as evidence. But as you will see in the link, another enemy is another cousin, Kamal Younis. His slander story to another journalist was the opposite, he confirmed I was in prison.

            CNN said “The Tel Aviv headquarters of Bank Leumi had no record of a firebombing at its now-demolished Bethlehem branch”.

            AND

            “Israeli police had no record of the bombing”.

            CNN requested evidence for bombing Bank Leumi which was difficult to access records to prove. Johnston requested: “*the U.N. report that details the bombing incident of the bank that Mr.Shoebat said he was involved in” (Johnston’s email, May 25th).

            Yet Walid’s involvement with bombings went beyond a single bank. Walid advised Al-Mughrabi to bomb “several banks” which CNN KNEW: “He was recruited into the PLO by prison cellmate Mahmoud Al-Mughrabi – which led to the former’s involvement in a bomb plot that targeted Bank Leumi branches (which Hedges and Luyken said was manufactured)” (May 27th letter to Johnston, A)

            Walid initiated a new idea, to bomb Leumi branches throughout the West Bank, which continued for several months later.

            Walid thought that CNN would not air, then on July 13th when CNN aired, Walid sent the email of July 14th, in which sent them a link of the other bombings with the link to the United Nations report:

            “Mr. Shoebat had a real time bomb assembled by the notorious terrorist Mahmoud Al-Mughrabi. The most damaging to Mr. Griffin’s story is that there were bombing of the Bank Leumi in Bethlehem’s Manger Square — as described in Mr. Shoebat’s books — which was documented by the United Nations. Between December 24 and 27, there were two explosions in that area: “Bethlehem (in Manger Square near the Church of the Nativity)” and “Explosive charge went off outside the local Courthouse 27 December 1977 JP. 2 Jan. 1978 Yediot Aharonot, 2 January 1978.”” (Email to Robinson and Cooper, July 14th, 2011)

            So CNN was WRONG when they stated there was no bombing in manger square. There were. You know the link.

            And then you start off as if your problem is my comparison between Islam and Christianity.

            My comparisons are not between Islam and Christianity, but Islam and Protestantism which apparently is bothering you because you are Protestant which proves that all this talk of “I follow Jesus not Luther” is absolute fakery and now because of this, a demon is itching your soul in bringing up my issue with CNN attempting to shed doubt with very tricky methods.

            “You’re on my bucket list Walid and I hope to fulfill it by meeting you someday in person. Maybe I’ll stop by the next time I visit Thailand.”

            I would NEVER meet with you. As far as I am concerned we are done, so please leave my blog and NEVER return here again.

            Had you been a complete stranger I would not mind the brawl, but this? No. Get out.

            And while your gone, you can stew on the evidence for my credentials listed in the link. Try refuting for the rest of your life.

            I learned long ago that people will sooner or later stab you.

          • I immediately saw through his attempt to sugarcoat his BS, but know what, that guy is not worth the effort any more. My eyes are rapidly becoming more open, and the more I see through the comment sections from a fraction of those who claim to be Christians, but savagely attack the Catholic and Orthodox Church, the more I understand why you and Theo have long contend there is hardly any difference between Islam and Protestantism.

            I used to take personal offense before I embraced the Catholic-Orthodox Faith at the broad brushing of Protestants, but the journey into the Ante-Nicene Fathers’ writings destroyed Protestantism mythology and exposed their vain argument as sophism at the highest order.

            Cardinal Newman once said, “To be deep in history is to cease being a Protestant.” Know what? He is right on.

            So, to hell with Protestantism and I will embrace the Catholic-Orthodox Faith through Anglicanism with gutso.

            Forgive me for all the past arguments we have had and all the head butt we encountered. I look forward to being confirmed in August and would love to have you, Maria, and Theo there if it were possible in a tiny Anglican parish.

            God bless.

            May St. Michael the Archangel ever be ready to defend your family.

          • Trevor,

            I would not have minded it if he asked me to point out a certain confusion about my past. But what he did is the typical Muslim behavior as if he is certain that my testimony is a fraud. The link takes a person a week to read and examine the source evidences provided. With me being a public figure the law was not on my side since I have to first prove beyond doubt that CNN had knowledge of falsity BEFORE they published. And since I offered to visit them in Atlanta they knew they had no time but to go with their fabricated story.

            This is the truth of the matter, but lesson learned is to beware of these types. They WILL stab you when they hate what you write and they will do it exactly as Muslims do.

            Notice he stated his issue with me. That is what I write “comparing Islam to Christianity”.

            But even that is twisted for I compared Islam with Protestantism, NOT Christianity. So in his view Protestantism IS Christianity. This blows the whole argument that he ‘follows Jesus’ and ‘not Luther’.

            The journey to truth brother Trevor is a thorny road, filled with slander and torment from enemies.

            By now you understand this and is why you are ready.

            Notice, they taunt the people on this blog calling them ‘sycophants’ of Walid Shoebat. Today this was leveled at Susan.

            This is their tactic. To insult, humiliate, belittle and defame.

            This is all they have. They have NOTHING and is why they are of the tares.

            They want us to vacillate this issue while they condemn the universal church because they are not of it by their own confession and by that they are out of the Temple in the court without the Altar.

            But praise be to God. Tomorrow you will enjoy a masterpiece which proves much of what we struggle with.

          • Dan

            Give me the the link to your proof of innocence Walid otherwise there just words you’ve typed out for you sycophants which I am not and I’m sure that bugs you all to pieces.

            Walid why didn’t you sue CNN or anyone for slander?

            I’ll tell you why ; you can’t sue if it is the truth.

            NO Walid I think I’ll stay for as long as I want to.
            Someone’s got to correct you when you’re wrong.

          • Slanderer,

            The link was sent to you in the other comment. Here it is again:

            http://shoebat.com/shoebat-foundation/evidence-of-my-credentials/

            “Walid why didn’t you sue CNN or anyone for slander?”

            Because it would cost 1/2 a million dollars. I started the case and hired the best and could no longer continue. It drained me.

            Now, if I prove this to you on the condition you pay $10,000 to my favorite charity (not Rescue Christians) will you be ready for a challenge?

            Apparently you know zip about public figures and “evidence of knowledge of falsity” when it comes to public figures.

            “I’ll tell you why ; you can’t sue if it is the truth.”

            The proof is in the links slanderer.

            “NO Walid I think I’ll stay for as long as I want to.”

            Really? You now want to control my comment section too?

            No. Once this ‘discussion’ is over and you are proven WRONG, YOU are OVER with OUT OF HERE.

            I do not exist here to have every idiot question me as if they are judge, jury and lawyer. Bugger off.

          • Dan

            Walid enough of this nonsense and get over yourself.
            I had every right to ask the questions and maybe I did a poor job but the fact remains we’re both Christians and with that we are ordered by non other than our savior himself to forgive each other 70×7.

            I will forgive you and you will forgive me that is what a Christian does and there’s no if ands or buts in this but to forgive and move on.

          • “maybe I did a poor job”

            Explain your “poor job”.

            “I will forgive you ”

            Forgive me for what?

            It takes a few seconds to find my defense for that case. Instead you came along and slandered without proof and you took a testimony from a Muslim terror supporter over the evidences provided from trustable sources: scholars, experts, UN records of bombings and previous media which clearly debunks your accusations.

            I allowed this dialogue on public forum because you brought it up on public forum and I will finish it on public forum and in the end your accusations will be found wanting for all to see clearly and openly. But once this is all done I want nothing to do with you. Understood?

          • Dan

            Walid, I should have asked you about the allegations but I instead used them in anger. I apologize for that.
            You, also lack forgiveness towards me and I forgive you for that.
            I know this is not about the CNN interview or for that matter the false accusations against you.

            There simply just is no reason to come unglued over something that I should have simply just asked about.
            It would not surprise you to know outside of the internet Tact or lack of it ;is something I work on even today at 50.

            I believe this has more to do with your history as a Muslim and my comments disparaging Islam as this was the majority of my first post and was the general point of the conversation. I may be wrong but that is the impression you’re giving me on this. The one comment about Cnn just doesn’t add up to this outrage but you’re past with Islam does.

            Forgive me Walid but I’m not a trusting person and that is something I also need to work on.

            Walid, while you work on forgiveness I’ll work on listening and learning and not so much talking ; Fair enough?

          • Grandmere

            Dan, that all sounds good, and we have heard that from you before. But your emotional and impulsive nature leads us to believe that you will not be able so self moderate your comments. Walid has been very patient with you. He has spent an inordinate amount of his precious time dealing with your outbursts. Please, for the good of all, try listening and reasoning before making comments that, for most of us, paint you in the light of a provocateur.

          • I forgive you Dan. I put this behind us.

          • If he has been here so long and he did not read my link proving that a bombing happened at Manger Square from U.N documents which proves that CNN and the Jerusalem Post (which wrote about my very bombing in 1977 but forgot about such an old incident) then I can’t help him. Even the Jerusalem Post allowed me to write a rebuttal for they felt bad about it. The evidence of my bombing is here:

            http://shoebat.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/jp-copy.jpg

            I can’t be chasing these idiots all my life. The man waffles all the time. He zig zags more than I can stand. Very annoying and slanderous. I had enough of him.

          • Dan

            Sorry Walid it’s been 3 days since you left the conversation so go back to my post and talk about that.

            Oh I failed to see your slanderous post ; BS Walid, you were waiting for someone talk for you so just stop.

            Go Back to my post Walid and you will find what Raph said has nothing to do with my post.

            No Walid stick with your claim about Islam and Christianity and what I said about Islam because that is what bother you.

            You cannot compare the two because Islam encourages LYING which is outrageous to a Christian.

            I have proven over and over my case about CNN, so kindly leave me alone and do not speak with me again.

            Oh Quit being a big Baby Walid, where is the eastern fight you always are so proud to have?

            Oh but the slanderous comments about CNN ; Walid I only said it was in you past and I didn’t ask you to defend it.

            NO Walid the substance of our conversation was your comparing Islam to Christianity which I believe is absurd and I asked why would you compare the two when one believes LYING is good if it glorifies the Creator ; why Walid would you compare the two?

            We can always have our disagreements and have a beer afterwards.
            Well Walid it appears not BUT at least be honest with reading my post and when you do you will find there is nothing inappropriate
            Being said to you by me. There are only sincere questions brought to you from someone who is new here and just wants to understand you better.

            But make no Mistake I am not one of your YES men and I will challenge you if I believe you are wrong.

            Reread my post Walid and you will find I value your message both from your son and yourself more than your past which is what keeps me here.

            Go away and stay mad if you want Walid but if you do that’s not the person on here; that you claim you are.

            Walid this is your proof of innocence

            http://shoebat.com/wp-conte

            Seriously Walid only a sycophant of yours would accept this but again I say to you Walid,

            I didn’t ask you to defend yourself so stop and go back and reread my post.

          • I failed to see your slanderous comment until Sebastian brought it up. I responded to him since to be frank, you are not worth the response. I am done with your slanders. I have proven over and over my case about CNN, so kindly leave me alone and do not speak with me again.

          • Dan

            Sorry Walid it’s been 3 days since you left the conversation so go back to my post and talk about that.

            Oh I failed to see your slanderous post ; BS Walid, you were waiting for someone talk for you so just stop.

            Go Back to my post Walid and you will find what Raph said has nothing to do with my post.

            No Walid stick with your claim about Islam and Christianity and what I said about Islam because that is what bother you.

            You cannot compare the two because Islam encourages LYING which is outrageous to a Christian.

            I have proven over and over my case about CNN, so kindly leave me alone and do not speak with me again.

            Oh Quit being a big Baby Walid, where is the eastern fight you always are so proud to have?

            Oh but the slanderous comments about CNN ; Walid I only said it was in you past and I didn’t ask you to defend it.

            NO Walid the substance of our conversation was your comparing Islam to Christianity which I believe is absurd and I asked why would you compare the two when one believes LYING is good if it glorifies the Creator ; why Walid would you compare the two?

            We can always have our disagreements and have a beer afterwards.
            Well Walid it appears not BUT at least be honest with reading my post and when you do you will find there is nothing inappropriate
            Being said to you by me. There are only sincere questions brought to you from someone who is new here and just wants to understand you better.

            But make no Mistake I am not one of your YES men and I will challenge you if I believe you are wrong.

            Reread my post Walid and you will find I value your message both from your son and yourself more than your past which is what keeps me here.

            Go away and stay mad if you want Walid but if you do that’s not the person on here; that you claim you are.

          • Flip flop, listen up.

            Comparing Islam to Christianity is to show the difference in theology.

            Islam denies Christ is the Son of God while Christians says Jesus is the Som of God.

            Strike one.

            Islam denies Jesus went to the cross and was a phantom, a major heresy that was condemned by the Early Church Council. Christians preaches Christ crucified.

            Strike two.

            Islam denies Jesus rose from the grave and says Jesus await the day of the resurrection. Christians says Jesus is risen!

            Strike three and you are out.

            Listen again, flip flop, you failed to comprehend a basic concept called “compare and contrast.”

            Get the hell out of here.

          • Dan

            Go to my post 3 days ago where this conversation originated Trevor, otherwise ; we’re just yelling at each other for the sake of yelling.

          • Why do you think I’m replying you dung?

          • Dan

            Retype That Trevor I’m not sure what it is you’re saying

          • Nah. I have been told not to waste any more of my precious time.

  • Kamau41

    Excellent and very well written commentary, Theodore. This is also a great follow up to your great video analysis, from the other day, of what is going on with the whole Eugenics-Social Darwinism movements and the stealth rise of N*ism. Truly fascinating journey thru history showing in detail how WWI & WWII were started, which were carefully planned out by the government elites of Germany and Turkey. The fact is we are seeing very aggressive militarism on the rise once again. History is surely repeating itself, just under different faces, but this time in the future it will be much worse. What you said here, best describes what is happening in these times:
    “Distractions are made for the world to see, while the conspiracies to bring mankind to ruin are devised behind the chaotic happenings of the moment.”

  • Kamau41

    Just hush. No one is listening to you. You might as well go jump off this ship as we don’t tolerate slander here.

  • Lidia

    Walid and Ted, how does the United States fit in all this since they bombed the hell out of Belgrade?

    I think this has more to do with the U.S. than Germany. I’m sure Germany fully supported the U.S. because they hate the Serbs. Also, the Croatian Catholics and the Serbian Orthodox hate each other so there is no unity with Catholics and Orthodox here. If you consider the Germans as Protestants (I know some are Catholic)–they not only helped Muslims but they helped the Catholics fight the Orthodox in Yugoslavia since WW 1.

    The U.S. also built a military base in Kosovo.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Bondsteel

    “Furthermore, evidence has now surfaced showing that the CIA, working largely through corporate-sector firms such as Military Professional Resources Inc. and DynCorp, had been aiding and training the KLA prior to the bombing, and KLA representatives have openly acknowledged that they were trying to provoke the Serbs to actions that would provide NATO with the jus belli that it was looking for to launch the war.”

    Does this all sound familiar? Compare it to Syria and the fake Sarin attack and blame it on Bashar Assad! This will give the U.S. a good reason to bomb and invade Syria, then Iran.

    http://www.spectrezine.org/war/herman.htm

    • Lidia

      The US bombed Serbia for 78 days to force its army out of ITS province of Kosovo.

      The Serbs were fighting terrorists—> the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA)!!!

      Neocons such as Madeleine Albright (Secretary of State), Richard Holbrooke (US Ambassador to the UN) and many others with the help of MSM, sided with the KLA. Interesting how the MSM supported Trump’s bombing of Syria. They loved it and they demand more of it.

      http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/kosovo/interviews/holbrooke.html

      • Higlac

        Veliko hvala, draga Lidia, da ste vi ovo pomenuli – ja zaistina sam čekao da vidim da neko ovo addressira. [Many thanks, dear Lidia, that you have brought this up – I was truly waiting to see somebody address this subject.]

        It also is of importance when I remember that not less than 1/3 of Germany is Catholic (albeit only nominally, MOST unfortunately!!! – those are found most in the Rhineland and the south of Germany, especially Bayern {Bavaria}) – if the Protestants (even the majority of them) are to hate Catholic + Orthodox Christians and take the side of the Moslems in exterminating them, I would be positively APPALLED. Yes, some of them no doubt will (and it well may be a substantial number of them all right); but surely enough of them will protest AGAINST such measures and evils!!!! For example, Frau Heidemarie (Heidi) Mund surely won’t go along with such Protestant “Christians”!!! [No doubt she and enough others will be murdered off by those FALSE “Protestants” – I hope she and her family will know to escape Germany in time…]

        I hope you’ve been having a Happy Eastertide.

        • Lidia

          Hi Higlac, I’m still having a hard time believing that the German people will unite with Muslims to kill all Catholics and Orthodox. The Germans were and probably still are very close to the Croatians and the Italians. Two of the biggest Catholics in the world.
          Who knows if we will even make it pass this May. I’m not worried about Germany or the Muslims right now. I’m more worried about a Nuclear War.

          • Higlac

            Dear Lidia, perhaps things may be a little more understandable when I call to your attention that it took only 5% or less of the German people’s total to commit all the crimes and atrocities for which they were held responsible in the period 1933-1945.

            If you frighten &/or bribe enough others – and know how to beguile them so they don’t realise what’s happening until it’s too late – it’s horrifically easy to drag a nation’s reputation and everything else through the mud.

            As to the risk of a nuclear war: I’m hopeful that Pútin and Trump will yet work things out so that such an ultimate catastrophe won’t happen. Then, if Kim Jong-Un tries anything, it hopefully will be stopped before he manages to send any nuclear bombs to destroy all our communication-networks and the rest.

          • Lidia

            I did see this on the History Channel. It made me sick to see how many German women and girls were raped after WW 2. Now they have to worry about rapefugees.
            I believe that most leaders (and their advisors) of countries are deceivers. I feel sorry for the good people. This is why I don’t blame or hate the German people, I just don’t trust their leaders. Same with our own government leaders.

          • Higlac

            Alas, that applies THROUGHOUT the West: our élitists have renounced all our peoples!!! They’ve renounced their patriotism and basic love for their countries – they’ve all been indoctrinated by Marxists and then cajoled, bribed &/or threatened into going along with the “New World Order” run by such shadowy élitist-families like the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Soros and the rest.

            If nothing else, Donald Trump is rich enough so as not to be under the thumbs of those wretches mentioned above…

          • Lidia

            President Donald Trump is surrounded by people in the White House who work for those “wretches” you mentioned above. He is listening to the SWAMP instead of draining it.

          • Higlac

            Eh, I think that he’s trying what he can; however, when you’re so totally surrounded by such scoundrels, it’s hard to get sufficiently high enough as to see just who they are…

            He has managed some good things, and if he keeps on doing as much, there yet is room for hope. Alas, he truly has his work cut out… It’s as if all the corruption and Marxism has so swamped the basic fabric of North America as to require not a few years but DECADES to properly root out. The Commies have had 100 years to work on destroying America (and 150+ for Europe) – how can one hope of turning that around all that quickly? I strongly feel that the ONLY one who can truly save us is Christ Himself!!! We’ll otherwise destroy ourselves: not only via nuclear weapons, or any other military weapons (in whatever combinations), but also all sorts of other nefarious policies in far too many fields (especially given how far and wide the Marxist POISON has seeped)!!!

          • infowolf1

            it maybe more a matter of credible threat than deception. There have been some odd events like someone getting onto the White House grounds and so forth kinda sending a message that they can get him and/or wife and/or kids if they want to. Melania is often tense in public with him and
            he is noted to walk some distance ahead of her coming off an airplane and so forth sometimes. This is interpreted as indicating abuse, but also consistent with not wanting her hit also if he is shot, and with her knowing what these people are capable of these respectable people she is surrounded by. Remember whether she put out or not, she was escort to some and around such and would have heard casual talk because not as taken seriously as someone else they’d shut up around. One article said she is really not happy being First Lady.

          • Lidia

            I don’t think it’s a threat because Trump surrounded himself immediately with the worst advisors. I think it was pre-planned.
            I think his son-in-law, Jared, is a strange one. He is one of Trump’s advisors. I’m surprised that Walid doesn’t talk about him. Walid constantly attacks Steve Bannon but never Jared. It’s obvious that Jared has more power than Steve. Some people believe that Jared is THE antichrist. He owns a building with an address of 666 on 5th Avenue in NYC. The building used to be called 666 but they changed it.
            The fact that he is young, very rich, very powerful and good looking. And a GLOBALIST, pro-immigration!! He is also RELATED to Trump. He is linked Soros, Rothschilds, and the Rockefellers. Some people will mention that he is a Zionist and puts Israel first, not America first. He is a big liberal (along with his wife Ivanka) and wrote for some liberal magazine in the past. His own father is a criminal and was in prison at one time, put there by Chris Christie. Notice ‘Christie’ has the word Christ in it. It’s no wonder why Christie was basically dumped after the elections.

          • Lidia

            Saturday NIght Live portrays Jared-not in a negative way- as a cool guy with his cool sunglasses, wearing a bullet-proof vest. Steve Bannon (the Grim Reaper), on the other hand, is kicked out of the White House by another Grim Reaper and Jared finally sits at the President’s desk in the White House, with Trump sitting at a smaller desk, acting like some clueless idiot. So basically Jared is running the whole show.
            Strange skit but it makes you wonder. It’s always good to know what the other side is thinking.

          • Lidia

            I do like the First Lady, Melania, I think she is very beautiful.
            I love her name too. I read somewhere that her parents own a clothing factory in Serbia. I heard that Melania also speaks fluent Serbian, besides her own Slovenian language.
            Maybe Melania’s behavior is a reflection of her sensing that something is wrong. It’s in her blood, BALKAN blood. We are a unique people!!

    • Juan

      Sister, if you study XIII th century History you will see Roman Catholics and Turkic Moslems attacking together Roman Empire (Orthodox) and Russian principalities.
      The collusion between the West and Moslems is older than most people tend to think. Darkness inside RCC didn’t start with Vatican II but a lot of centuries before.
      Best regards.

      • juanisaac

        Can you be more specific? Do you mean the Fourth Crusade? It was not so much the darkness of the RCC but the greed of the Venetians. Pope Innocent III did excommunicate them, but after the fact- sigh.
        The attack on Constantinople by Crusading armies is one of those deep sores in the East-West relationship that might never heal.

        • Juan

          Crusade against Orthodox Russians and Teutonic Knights invading Russian lands was also a Venetian issue? Battle on the ice (1242 AD) wasn’t a RC attack?
          The relationship between RCC and Italian bankers is another interesting issue… Medici Popes in the Renaissance, etc.

  • Kamau41

    Here you will get the best history course that you won’t find anywhere else.

    • Kamau41

      These people never stop mixing apples w oranges. It’s insane, but nothing new.

  • Kamau41

    I didn’t read anywhere in the article that mentioned anything about the Pope. Why are you bringing up the Pope, when that is NOT the content of the article?

  • Raph Sebastian

    The Battle of Vienna obviously eludes you, Protestants have had a history of siding with evil against Catholics. The Protestant rapprochement is something you need to learnt about.

    • Filip

      For great claims, you need extraordinary evidence my friend.

      • Raph Sebastian

        Google “rapproachement” or go learn about tjr Battle of Vienna. Walid also has an article on this. Use the search feature, brother.

      • Grandmere

        The evidence is in history books. Heck, it’s even at your fingertips on the internet.

    • Grandmere

      And it was a Catholic, Jan Sobiesky that whipped the Ottomans and saved Vienna. They laughed at the news that Sobiesky was on his way. He had the last laugh.

      • Raph Sebastian

        Indeed dear sister. King Jan Sobiesky III of Poland no less and his Hussars!

        Oh history! Thou art such horrors for the slanderers. Oh history! You offer no quarter to the ignorant. Oh history! Facts be damned!

        • Grandmere

          I think he had some angelic help hauling those cannons up that mountain.

          • Raph Sebastian

            For sure! And just in the nick of time too!

  • infowolf1

    And the Uniate scene (this term is disliked by Byzantine Rite Catholics I heard from one years ago online) came about as a result of persecution of Orthodox by RC and are viewed by ORthodox as sellouts and currently are persecuting ORthodox in The Ukraine. I agree however they may be a source of restoration for RC.

  • Error! Failed to answer my question.

    *eject button pressed*

  • Taurnil Oronar

    How so? Protestants are and have been doing that for a long time and with the name they chose for themselves what are they actually protesting against? Why the division to potentially confuse Christians?

    Perhaps one doth protest too much.

  • Why would I want to waste my time filling in the blanks? I’ll just post your old quote from last week where you said “Seems to me that it is only Christians that will be saved not Orthodox, Protestants or Catholic but who am I to judge, I’ll leave that to Jesus to decide but please continue to show your ignorance with your ridiculous squabbles.”

    So this fat Luther you speak of who made “Protestants” according to you are on their way to hell. Why waste my breath. You da judge.

    As far as the Muslims go you made them the hero and by that you proved our article true.

    You da man.

  • The answer is in the article. Try to refute what is in t instead of quoting headlines.

  • Filip

    I’m not against anyone… I’m simply following my faith. God commands us to keep our eyes wide open. You do not have to agree with this, there is no opposing force here. You can disagree. I just simply agree with the article because to me, it makes sense from a biblical standpoint and it is quite an accurate statement. Plus, look at history, Germany never fell short of surprises… WW1, WW2. I don’t say this because I hate Germany, I do not hate anyone.. I say this because history has a tendency to repeat.. and it would be to no surprise.. that Germany would repeat history.

  • Filip

    Wrong. My wife is Croatian. Serbia tried to oppress them not the other way around.
    Here is what her father told me who was in the war. “We were sitting in trenches waiting for the enemy. They attacked us on our own land, we never invaded them. They mutilated men&women, ripped babies out of women’s womb’s by cutting their bellies open, then the soldiers would rape the Catholic women while they bled to death and rip their babies in half in front of the husband, then they’d kill the husband too after making him watch. My wife’s dad Radoslav, told me this is what was happening. They got lucky the US intervened otherwise Serbia would have taken over Croatia and.. they did not tolerate Catholics as they attempted to bomb the giant Cathedral from Osijek/Croatia several times.

  • “You know fancy arguments better than me sir,”

    Great.

    ” I don’t want to get into one of those with you.”

    You give yourself good advice.

    “And your going to term that as Jesus style dialogue.”

    I understand.

    “But do tell me why your spreading this hatred between christianity. ”

    I never knew that exposing Luther was “hatred of Christianity”. Does Luther represent ‘Christianity’?

    “Your acting as if apart from Catholics and Orthodox, all other Christians are following the devil himself.”

    Luther wrote “The Jews And Their Lies” which roused up the devil Hitler and they followed the devil. Should I not expose Luther?

    I stated: “This means you are part of a religion too: Protestantism.”
    You responded with: “I don’t profess protestanism as my religion.”

    Yes you do. Do you believe in sola scripture and sol fide? Then you are a Protestant.

    ” I only declare Christ and him crucified for me which is what Paul declared.”

    Is that all you declare? You deny sola fide and sola scriptura?

    Simple Jesus style question.

    And your answer is?

  • Run Forrest Run.

  • Lidia

    We will see Sam. I didn’t give up on President Trump yet. But if he invades Syria or Iran and causes increase tension with Russia. I am done with him.

  • “Yet I remind you, in earlier writings you said the last days wars would be in the Middle East? That is was Western presumption to presume it was in the West?”

    The eye of the storm will be in the Middle East, but the storm will engulf the whole earth.

  • “All who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved”

    O get out of here. The Mormon and the JW quotes the same verse and you are telling me they too are “saved”?

  • You got your last word. Enough said.

  • Grandmere

    Don, he never said that every Protestant would take part in slaughtering Christians. There were Protestants who hid Jews and helped get them out of the war zone. But you have to admit that it was Protestant Germany in the main that prosecuted the enslavement and mass murder of both Jews and Catholics. Some actively participated. Even more looked the other way and, to this day, deny any responsibility.

  • Grandmere

    There is a difference between comparing and equating. You seem to think they mean the same thing. I can compare tennis shoes to high heels because they are both footwear. But I cannot equate the two.

  • Grandmere

    It has happened several times. Not just the World Wars. We humans are like a dog chasing it’s tail. We never learn.

  • Kamau41

    Obviously, you didn’t even read the article. No wonder, your understanding is so severely limited!

  • Kamau41

    The Holy Scriptures disagrees with you:
    “What shall it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but hath not works? Shall faith be able to save him? And if a brother or sister be naked, and want daily food: And one of you say to them: Go in peace, be ye warmed and filled; yet give them not those things that are necessary for the body, what shall it profit? So faith also, if it have not works, is dead in itself. But some man will say: Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without works; and I will shew thee, by works, my faith. Thou believest that there is one God. Thou dost well: the devils also believe and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, offering up Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou, that faith did co-operate with his works; and by works faith was made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled, saying: Abraham believed God, and it was reputed to him to justice, and he was called the friend of God.
    Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only? And in like manner also Rahab the harlot, was not she justified by works, receiving the messengers, and sending them out another way? For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without works is dead.” (James 2:14-26)

  • Raph Sebastian

    You don’t profess Protestantism as your religion…that is laughable…If you are not Catholic or do not belong to the Apostolic Church, i.e. Catholic or Orthodox…then you are Protestant!

    Especially watch at time log 1:05.

  • Woody

    only thing to remember is “In the End My Immaculate Heart will conquer.”

  • Marie Halligan

    I have read this a few times and it’s chilling! It also makes sense because the one person behind all of it is The Adversary and they are all just pawns in his agenda, which is to damn as many souls as possible before he looses for ever.

  • Renato Steri

    Luther, Nietzsche, Hitler, Marx, the German axis of evil

  • “Attempting to denounce Protestants in the same way you use scripture”

    Please show me from my quotes where I “denounced Protestants”? I denounce Luther and some of his teachings.

    You denounce Catholicism don’t you? And I insist on a Yes or No answer.

    So let me ask, who started the split? The Pope or Luther?

    “who is the hypocrite?”

    Luther.

    And now I ask, why are we arguing? Unless of course, you support Luther’s theology. Do you? (and please don’t respond with the typical ‘I follow Scripture’ we are speaking of Protestantism vs. Catholicism in this discussion).

    • Woody

      What I have read is that the anti-Christ will come from Turkey and his reign will last 6 years (but terrible years) And then “In the End My Immaculate Heart will conquer.” Thank you, Mom.

  • Raph Sebastian

    Accepting Christ is merely one facet of God’s salvific plan. You must also worship as he taught. This is what is missing in Protestantism.

    If you think just because you have accepted Him yet do not gollow ALL THAT HE AND HIS CHURCH TEACHES then you effectively profess a heresy.

    Once saved always saved is one such heresy, another is “bible alone” followed by the other heretical “sola” teachings.

    Worship him the way He taught not the way you like.

  • Raph Sebastian

    There is a difference when it is defensive. Look and see who was the aggressors first you slanderer.

  • Woody

    Yes, Luther vs Jesus; I will take Jesus.

  • racarrera

    You’re joking. Orthodox and Catholics have prime documents and actual history on their side. What do Protestants have? Crap from Alexander Hislop and his rotten spawn, which would be laughed out of any legitimate history program.

    • Pam has proven to be nothing more than a squawking hen pecking at anything she disagrees with.

      • Raph Sebastian

        On top of being a full blown blasphemous Gnostic. When asked can God create one sinless, her reply was “Yes, Jesus,” Such blasphemy and she then defend herself by quoting scripture, such vile evil people have the audacity to call themselves “followers of the bible and Christ.”

        • YIKES!

        • Grandmere

          She doesn’t know what “begotten, not made” means. Gnostic to the core. She doesn’t even realize that she is in agreement with the Mormons and the Jehovah’s Witness, Sad.

  • Raph Sebastian

    Stop with your lies and revisionist Protestant history.

  • Well put.

  • Amazing how folks keep saying that they do not follow Luther but they follow the Bible to only find out that they not only follow Luther, but Jan Huss, Calvin, Knox, the Puritans …

    Guy, do you seriously want to debate the Hussites? If you do, just google first “Shoebat” and “Hussites” and then comment away under these articles.

    But before you do, tell us about the Cathar wars. What do you know about them? Are these Cathars your heroes?

  • LOL.

    “I did read the article.”

    “Simply read the title.”

    Contradictory.

    • Raph Sebastian

      Nothing new..just like when they say I read the bible..then subsist on one verse theology.

      • Indeed, captain. How many times have we seen over the years where people post comments complaining about the title but admit to not reading the article?

        I understand why Constantine at times want to shut down the comment section and save everyone the grief of wading through knee high pool of crap.

        • Raph Sebastian

          But I do hope he doesn’t shut the comments. It’s simetimes very entertaining. It also serves as a fellowship and off the cuff moments that lead to complete hilarity amongst us.

          It’s more good than bad in the end. Especially the first week of Easter. So many confessing their coming home moments brought tears of joy to this salty old soldier.

          • Indeed! It also helped confirmed that I am on the right track as well.

          • By the way, captain, I wish you could come and see my wife and I become confirmed in August in a tiny Anglican parish.

          • Raph Sebastian

            Trevor, my brother, I am currently not in the US and will still be away in August. I wish I could be there for the momentous ocassion. You don’t know how happy I was when you broke the news. I could feel your joy throughout your post. I will be there in spirit.

            This Easter is definitely looking like a bumper crop for those coming home to the LORD’s Church. May the LORD be praised and glorified!

          • AMEN and AMEN!

            The harvest is fast approaching, and I believe God is just getting warmed up.

  • Raph Sebastian

    No. Doctrinal, dogmatic and liturgical difference is of utmost importance. You cannot sing songs, and have rock concerts and people being whipped into a frenzy and then call that worship.

    There is only one way to worship God and that is His way not any way you like.

    • Grandmere

      You told her the truth, in love.

  • Raph Sebastian

    Please stay and be a regular here, Sarah. We older Shoebat readers are growing weary at the number of these people that come on here spewing their vile bile filled rote learnt lies.

    If everyone of us had a quarter each time one of these ignorant and swill swallowing regurgitors write the horse manure they write, we’d all be very wealthy people, not as wealthy as their “pastors” and charlatan false prophets, but quite wealthy indeed.

  • Raph Sebastian

    Now you are getting completely moronic, cherry picked history isn’t complete history. If only you did your homework before showing your utter ignorance on the very issues you brought up shows a distinct lack of intelligence and honesty.

  • “refuting my HISTORICALLY CORRECT STATEMEMTS. ”

    Would love to read your history Guy. I haven’t seen it. Where would one find such pearl of great price?

    • Raph Sebastian

      In all of recorded history, there is NOT ONE RECORD for the “murder of millions”. This kind of BS as we know was the brainchild of one very wicked woman who was a housewife and not a historian. Such things can only come from the pit of hell. The devil has been trying to destroy the Church the LORD founded, but he and his minions fail all the time.

  • Raph Sebastian

    It is you who are pretending to be intellectually honest to begin with. Yes I call you out for being a complete idiot and moron. You have more than earned those monikers. You post half truths all the time, some of your posts are completely slanderous rife with lies and rote learnt slanders passed by at least a generation.

    Your own statements are ahistorical and false, and at best revisionist history. Now go refute what Walid has posted on the matter of Jan Hus and the Hussites, Anabaptists, etc etc etc.

    You Protestants will support anything that is not Catholic even if it means supporting Gnosticism and outright heretical blasphemies.

    You have been called out, now respond to the article Walid has posted with regards your claim about the Hussites etc.

  • Raph Sebastian

    You put Luther before Christ, period.

  • Raph Sebastian

    Where in the bible does it say that everything that is Christianity is in the bible? Show that first then you will find where the Apostles taught about erecting HOLY IMAGES and ICONS.

    Protestantism always tries to read what is not there or worse ignores what is clearly stated.

    The Commandment of I am the LORD Thy GOD and thou shalt not have strange Gods before me is a command to not worship other pagan gods and faceless Gods.

    The Incarnation gave us the face of God, the saints are there to point us to the fully man and fully God person of Jesus Christ.

    No Catholic says they worship the saints, it’s only Protestants that insist that Catholics do.

    You hate holy icons, then you are no different than the muslims who also hate holy icons, guess who else hates holy icons? Satan and his demonic minions.

    IF you hate icons then you must also now get rid of that bible, there are so many icons of crosses in it. Also get rid of your pictures of your dead family members and of your living relatives.

    What is the name of your church? How do you worship? Do you worship with incense and chants? Do you read the Gospel? Do you declare a reading of scripture or two in full context at church on Sunday? If not why? The Jews read scripture in temple, this was followed by the Apostles. Christ broke bread and drank wine at the first Mass, do you break bread and drink wine? OR do you have crackers and wine?

    Go look up Dura Europos..the first physical church to be found by archaeologists. Go see what it looks like. Here’s a clue it looks exactly like a Catholic Church!

    You see you follow a man, you follow Luther despite your protestations that you do not. You are not part of the Church the LORD founded, you worship willy nilly and whatever way you like. Liturgy is important, it brings one closer to God in worship, not rock concerts and drinking coffee while some preacher strolls up and down a stage misquoting scripture.

    Wisen up, the time is short, you have to walk a narrow path, you have to do as HE commanded, Eat his flesh and drink His blood, come receive the Sacraments that HE instituted in His Church. Falling short of all that only perils your soul to possibly eternal damnation. Eternity is a very very long time. Repent and come out of Protestantism and come home to the authentic Christian and Ancient Church the Apostles established after being commissioned by the LORD.

    Time to leave behind sanctioned sins of adultery by your church when the remarry divorced individuals, of contraception because it goes against God’s teaching that sexual contact is only between husband and wife for the sake of procreation, of sexual promiscuity, of mortal sin and sin in general.

    Once again, leave Protestantism for the fullness of the truth found only in the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church. All else are fake representations of the truth.

  • Grandmere

    Says who? Where are you getting your “information”? Alexander Hislop? Jack Chick?

    • Sarah

      The vast majority of Protestant Churches were started recently to a few hundred years ago, by preachers who made themselves their own authority. Christ himself clearly states the gates of hell would not prevail against his church. And here over 2000 years later it stands, alive and strong when most nations have long since disappeared. The Church still upholds the early teachings, esp the true teaching on the Eucharist, the authority of the Bishop of Rome, the prayers, the mass, etc, which Satan is just not able to destroy. Still following what the early church established and handing down the faith all over the world. It really is a God thing.

      • Sarah, I have been monitoring your comments and I am happy to have another fellow Apostolic here.

        Grandmere and I both are Anglicans. Pray for the orthodox Anglicans to come back in full communion with Rome. Grandmere is part of the GAFCON – Global Anglican Future Conference, a very orthodox branch of Anglicanism and a stubborn thorn in the side of the pro-sodomite Archbishop Justin Welby who has been undermining efforts by the GAFCON to come in communion with Rome, and I am soon to be confirmed as an Anglican, under the Anglican Catholic Church that are fighting against deep seated resentment among older Anglicans.

      • Sarah. What a blessed name.

  • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Stop, my side!

  • Hahahaha. All we talk about is history. All you talk about is your interpretations void of history. How historically the Bible was interpreted eludes you Fletcher. Look above “Sobisesky” Look below the “Gnostics”. Look to the article you are commenting here which you did not pay attention to, its nothing but history. Look at the people who come here. They come here because of HISTORY. Over here, we treat history as if its the Ark of the Covenant:

  • All that for asking to see your history analysis? Are you that sensitive for my adding “pearl of great price”?

    Alright then, I will refrain from now on on engaging you in any comment.

    Good day.

  • Just the fact that you are contradicting yourself and refusing to see it.

    It is making me have a belly laugh at your expense.

  • I ran into Sebastian’s comment while I was getting you guys another round of coffee so I dug into it to find out some of your answers. Raph mentioned that you blasphemed so I thought to look into it myself:

    Raph asked: “3- can God create one sinless?”

    You answered: “Yes Jesus, there will never be another so Jesus remains supreme!”

    What do you have to say about this answer? Have you ever read any guidance or are you roaming like a free bird? Have you read anything on what constitutes Anathemas?

    A heretic is defined as such:

    “[But those who say: ‘There was a time when he was not;’ and ‘He was not before he was made;’ and ‘He was made out of nothing,’ or ‘He is of another substance’ or ‘essence,’ or ‘The Son of God is created,’ or ‘changeable,’ or ‘alterable’— they are condemned by the holy catholic and apostolic Church.] ”

    You said that Christ “was created” therefore you are a heretic.

    You seem to be going around my blog thinking that we believe in “works based salvation” and such fluttering your tongue as if we are stupid and you are a teacher of some sort. Its about time someone taught you a lesson because to be frank I had it with your half baked statements.

    Would any true Christian dare deny the following formula for salvation: “If any one says that man may be justified before God by his own works, whether done through the teaching of human nature, or that of the law, without the grace of God through Jesus Christ—let him be anathema.”

    Do you know who penned this? It was the Catholic Church (see Canon 1).

    And in The Council of Trent: “We are therefore said to be justified freely, because that none of those things which precede justification—whether faith or works—merit the grace itself of justification. For, if it be a grace, it is not now by works, otherwise, as the same Apostle says, grace is no more grace.”

    This conforms to what it says in Zechariah on how the Jews get saved in the end: “the Spirit of Grace and Supplication” (Zechariah 12:10).

    Is this not an acceptable salvation?

    Raph asks: “6- is my religion evolutionary, and I make it up as I go!”

    You answer with: “Jeremiah said Gods word was like a hammer that busts a rock to pieces! Jer.23:29! God is a big God! ” He spoke and the heavens were formed! Let all the earth fear the Lord; Let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of Him! For he spoke and it was done; He commanded, and it stood fast! Psalm 33:8,9! The last thing I would want, is to distort His message! The gospel is an offense! 1Pet. 2:8! By Gods design! We need to have a funeral for our carnal man, then it won’t be an irritant to us! Gal. 5:24!”

    What does all that have to do with the question? Are you a record player? Bi-Polar perhaps? You think just by repeating several unrelated verses without explaining yourself is just fine?

    Raph asked: “9- no removing books or adding them!”

    And instead of saying “I agree” you went on with this:

    “Jesus fulfilled all that was written about Him! He fulfilled all prophecies, all the Law, and all righteousness! He fulfilled all the words of the prophets and all of the psalms!”

    So in this case the way you argue here it seems that we have Jesus so we do not need the Bible.

    And then you write:

    “And if you add we are promised all of the plagues! It’s to late to try to take away! And whose gonna try adding? I don’t know preachers who do this, but it seems to me, they would trip all over themselves doing so!”

    Before Luther, we had more than 66 books. You need to explain yourself and STOP your anathemas. I have had it with your blasphemies.

    • Grandmere

      She is the classic fool, professing herself to be wise.

  • “Your just using these excuses to make Christ exclusive to Catholics.”

    So Muslims then who say they believe in Christ are included? If yes why and if no why? After all, how dare you deny Muslims who say they too believe in Jesus? Mormons too and JWs.

    Let them all in, right?

    Christ said His church is one. What is the oldest Church?

    Answer: The Universal Church.

    What did they say and write from time immemorial? Tell us if you can?

  • Grandmere

    Catholics love to talk about history. You can’t talk about it because you do not know it.

  • lewjac3

    They did the same to the Hebrews, and not a peep, so I guess it is unfortunately it is the Christians turn to be harmed .

  • Grandmere

    Look, newbie! Trevor has been here for years. He is well respected. You, on the other hand, have been here for five minutes. This place is hot. If you can’t take it, go to McDonalds. It’s on the corner of You and Tube.

  • Raph Sebastian

    Your accusation reflects more accurately to yourself. You are the one that is dripping with crap from your mouth.

    If I ask you to show historical proof for the “millions killed” you would evade.

    You see you utterly stupid moron, when the plague hit Europe and actually killed millions Europe’s economy suffered. There was also famine and a distinct lack of commerce. All these are verfiable records.

    So when exactly did this “millions were killed” happen? Are there similar records to show devastating economic and famine conditions due to lack of people working on both commerce and on food production.

    Your slander will be exposed for what it is, because you can never provide any evidence because it never happened. It’s a blood libel passed down from your parents or by other slanderous ilk. You won’t admit this too.

    So go ahead provide the evidence and prove me if not all of us here wrong. This is your chance. Come on carpe diem!

    • Grandmere

      Knowing him. he will say “Plague. A plague of locusts?” You see, bubonic plague isn’t mentioned in the Bible so he has never heard of it. And he has no idea whatsoever how society functioned before the invention of the steam engine.

  • Raph Sebastian

    Wrong. I am making Christ exclusive to the way He taught the Apostles. The Catholic Church and The Orthodox Church are the only ones that have the fullness ofvthe faith and truth. This is not exclusivity it is truth. The Early Church Fathers taught this too. Who are they? They are the ones that learnt from the Apostles and then taught their own successors. None of them are Protestants.

    Nothing Protestant resembles what the Ancient Church is. Before Protestantism there were only Catholics, heretics and pagans. Give up the falsity of Luther’s religion that you follow. If not then at least get back to the beginning of this exchange. Answer me at least and show me where in the bible does it say that all that is needed to teach the fauth is in the bible?

    You can’t because there is no such thing as bible alone. That is the very exclusivity that you apparently hate but inadvertantly subscribe to.

  • Sarah

    3 questions: Where is “the pure truth” found Don? The Church has been fighting heresies for 2000 years to keep the faith pure. Have you ever been brave enough to ask Christ, who I assume you believe in, if he established the Catholic Church and to change your heart if he, Christ is still it’s head? Do you truly want to follow Christ’s Church no matter what the cost?

  • Sarah

    Are you only reading history written by Protestants? For Protestants hunted and killed many Catholics, esp priests. The number of converts to the faith, were not subjugated to their will or killed. That is a huge exaggeration. Yes, some were but very few over the history of the Church. And most as far as I can see were done by bad Christians, not the Church. The Church is also never hiding the sins of Christ’s bride, but has been honest about her mistakes. Protestants do not even know the sins of Luther, Calvin or Zwingli. Considering the Church has been around 2000 years, it is amazing to see the Church still standing and flourishing, with all the sinners from without and within. That is the real miracle of the Holy Spirit, that protects the Church. If Satan could have destroyed it, he would have. But Christ is it’s Head, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.

  • Sarah

    I like many of your comments. But I beg you, read the early Church, Christ created a visible Church, not an invisible church. That is a modern idea. Even the Bible shows this. They (the followers) are sent to the Church, or to the elders, or to the Bishop. And the early writings yes in first 200 years show the Bishop of Rome trumps everyone when there is a dispute. This is shocking to many Protestants.
    This is not “me and Jesus”. Christ clearly establishes a Church for authority. That is why Peter is given the keys. Have you ever studied what the keys meant to a Jew? The Creed was written and proclaimed long before the Bible was even compiled. It was carried and preached, so all would learn the same faith. All the early churches are so similar. They definitely do not look like a homily, or bible study and certainly not a concert. But a liturgy with the true worship, where Christ is being made present in His body and blood.
    As a Catholic I can admit that average Catholics have not defended ‘the faith” when it’s been attacked. Which has lead to many misunderstanding the truth, the beauty and the fullness of the faith. For the enemies of the Church have for years now been spreading lies and mistruths about it, which were handed down to them from well meaning parents and pastors. The Church does want all of God’s children to know the truth. We want all to know this truth, for their are great graces for those who receive the sacraments worthily, which only the early churches offer.
    May Christ guide you.

  • Here is my reply to this scoundrel:

    Dan,

    Its time to put a lid on your slanders once and for all and in public for all to see. Quit equivocating.

    Here are your own statements:

    “Walid, I have done enough research to know enough about you and if your message was even 1 iota less I would not be here because some of your past is troubling brother.
    The interview with CNN was damning and the interview with one of your family members who was saying you never were in the PLO was shocking to hear. But, it’s the past Walid and it’s something about your message that has me here.”

    What you stated clearly here without ambiguity is that you believed the slanders, but that since its my past, so be it.

    This is not the same as if you did not believe the slander. In other words, what your saying is ‘Walid, we know that you were bullshitting, but God forgives your past ….” “you made fake claims Walid but its in the past its okay.”

    Not so fast. You stated “Remember, Walid and I were friends when this started”.

    So historically you are telling Raph that you knew me and who I am for a very long time, according to you we are “friends”.
    By the way, Are you Dan whom I knew from the Messianic Church in Walnut Creek? Or are you a different Dan? I know several Dans.

    You then sent a dead link, when the link is here:

    http://shoebat.com/shoebat-foundation/evidence-of-my-credentials/

    Its practically an entire book with all sorts of evidence and refutation of CNN.

    Regarding my cousin (his name is Dad Hassan) I will be brief but the detail is in the link.

    CNN’s Jerusalem Bureau KNEW that Daood Hassaan Shoebat is a relative of famed terrorist Arin Shoebat and Raed Khalil Awadallah Shoebat and Ziad Shoebat (Hamas) whom Daood is their uncle are terrorists and is sympathetic to terrorism which was disclosed to CNN on July 14th to Cooper and Robinson.

    Leaving all that out CNN insinuated that Walid was lying when he says that his family vouched to the truth of the matter bringing in a 4th cousin as evidence. But as you will see in the link, another enemy is another cousin, Kamal Younis. His slander story to another journalist was the opposite, he confirmed I was in prison.

    CNN said “The Tel Aviv headquarters of Bank Leumi had no record of a firebombing at its now-demolished Bethlehem branch”.

    AND

    “Israeli police had no record of the bombing”.

    CNN requested evidence for bombing Bank Leumi which was difficult to access records to prove. Johnston requested: “*the U.N. report that details the bombing incident of the bank that Mr.Shoebat said he was involved in” (Johnston’s email, May 25th).

    Yet Walid’s involvement with bombings went beyond a single bank. Walid advised Al-Mughrabi to bomb “several banks” which CNN KNEW: “He was recruited into the PLO by prison cellmate Mahmoud Al-Mughrabi – which led to the former’s involvement in a bomb plot that targeted Bank Leumi branches (which Hedges and Luyken said was manufactured)” (May 27th letter to Johnston, A)

    Walid initiated a new idea, to bomb Leumi branches throughout the West Bank, which continued for several months later.

    Walid thought that CNN would not air, then on July 13th when CNN aired, Walid sent the email of July 14th, in which sent them a link of the other bombings with the link to the United Nations report:

    “Mr. Shoebat had a real time bomb assembled by the notorious terrorist Mahmoud Al-Mughrabi. The most damaging to Mr. Griffin’s story is that there were bombing of the Bank Leumi in Bethlehem’s Manger Square — as described in Mr. Shoebat’s books — which was documented by the United Nations. Between December 24 and 27, there were two explosions in that area: “Bethlehem (in Manger Square near the Church of the Nativity)” and “Explosive charge went off outside the local Courthouse 27 December 1977 JP. 2 Jan. 1978 Yediot Aharonot, 2 January 1978.”” (Email to Robinson and Cooper, July 14th, 2011)

    So CNN was WRONG when they stated there was no bombing in manger square. There were. You know the link.

    And then you start off as if your problem is my comparison between Islam and Christianity.

    My comparisons are not between Islam and Christianity, but Islam and Protestantism which apparently is bothering you because you are Protestant which proves that all this talk of “I follow Jesus not Luther” is absolute fakery and now because of this, a demon is itching your soul in bringing up my issue with CNN attempting to shed doubt with very tricky methods.

    “You’re on my bucket list Walid and I hope to fulfill it by meeting you someday in person. Maybe I’ll stop by the next time I visit Thailand.”

    I would NEVER meet with you. As far as I am concerned we are done, so please leave my blog and NEVER return here again.

    Had you been a complete stranger I would not mind the brawl, but this? No. Get out.

    And while your gone, you can stew on the evidence for my credentials listed in the link. Try refuting for the rest of your life. It was a waste of my time to spend the time refuting this. I have better things to do than pay attention to tares.

    I learned long ago that people will sooner or later stab you.

  • You see Barry now you proved something. All I had to do is to jot one line from you saying that “all who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved”

    And I said “so what the Mormon calls on the name of the Lord”.

    Aha… and then look what happens. You had to explain the difference between Mormon and Christian in matters of theology.

    You realized that someone can jot a line and it takes ten wise men to explain it.

    This is just it. Your type used to come here all the time and jot stupid remarks like “Purgatory is not in my Bible”.

    You see Barry, people who would make this type of comment are stupid fools.

    If someone asked you what must one do to go to heaven a fool would write a single line like “All who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved: No organized religion needed”.

    To the fool his statement is validated since he can find that verse in the Bible. It is easy to state half a verse but it is not easy to explain salvation.

    Nothing has ever came out of you that one could sink their teeth in it and go ‘wow I learned a nugget’.

    Only stupid questions trying to taunt Catholics and Orthodox.

    So tell me since you think yourself wise: is Purgatory in the Bible? Lets see if you can answer a simple question.

  • “Europe is decadent, weak, emasculated, degenerate,”

    Okay

    “By destroying the unique ethnic makeup of European countries with mass immigration”

    If it is decadent, weak, emasculated, degenerate … tell me what are the “foreigners destroying”? As a Christian, I would worry more about the ‘foreigners’ getting sucked into this “decadent, weak, emasculated, degenerate” culture.

    O I see. Its about foreigners versus white folks? I mean ‘pink folks’?

    If thats what its all about then the hell with it for all I care about is red blood and I could care less about pink, latte or mocha latte.

    “This invasion, the flood of immigrants, what is it doing to Europe? The EU is splitting at the seams. God is going to refine the church, but how does He refine the church? It says it in the Bible. It’s fire, through persecution!’ (paraphrasing Walid from show he did with TradCatKnight)”

    Sure, God refines, but Europe splitting is that the Northern parts will tend to go further into eugenics.

    “So as the Muslim invasion of Europe grows, as the Islamic migrant progeny settle the continent and seeds the next generation, perhaps violent persecution against Europeans will lead to a return of militant Christianity?”

    Yes and No. As the Bible clearly reveals the wicked become more wicked and the saints are refined.

    But I assure you, what were Protestant nations in Europe are going the way of the dodo.

    • Woody

      “In the End My Immacualte Heart will conquer.” Thank you, Mom!

  • Your welcome George.

  • racarrera

    I would absolutely agree that your identity comes from what you think is God’s Spirit (it’s not). My issue is one of calling yourself a Christian. That term is reserved ONLY for those whose Church Jesus founded in Pentecost of 33 A.D. History shows how we worship. History shows WHY we worship. Jesus isn’t some cartoon character Evangelicals have made up, but a Lord, Savior, Messiah and God Incarnate. Your cult has cheapened His name into a laughing stock of ignorance and embarrassment, not being able to recognize that you worship a book (precisely in the way Muslims, whom your ilk resemble) do. If your church doesn’t have Apostolic succession, you’re simply not a Christian. You are a member of a new phony religion who willfully separated itself from the Body of Christ out of sheer arrogance and stupidity.

    We have so many mentally ill people coming into this forum peddling nonsense that it makes one wonder what is going on to attract such bizarre personages…