Major Evidence Reveals That Robert Spencer Is Working With Genocidal Satanist Nazi Cult That Plans To Eradicate All Christians In Concentration Camps

By Theodore, Walid and Andrew (A Shoebat Sunday Special)

Your favorite ‘conservative rightwing’ media, activists, political movements have sold the farm!

There is no other way to put it.

In this (and in the next coming weeks) we will investigate your favorite right-wing sources and reveal secrets you have never read before.

From Robert Spencer’s Jihad Watch occult and neo-Nazi partnerships to the Center For Security Policy, Frank Gaffney, the David Horowitz Freedom Center, PJMedia, FrontPage Magazine, Gatestone Institute, The Heritage Foundation and many many others; they have sold the conservative farm and partnered with the eugenics movement.

The claim of “conservatism” is evaporating in the West.

From such connect you will get to see a milieu of other major circles and connections from conservative government officials, conservative and secular think tanks, industrialists … all linking to an ugly reality: the promotion of eugenics, legalizing drugs, promoting violence, authoritarianism, support for homosexuality and even the occult.

Today we will just uncover a tidbit.

Sometimes when you are having a nightmare, it can seem so real you think it is actually happening. It all changes when you wake up and realize that is was just a bad dream, and then life resumes as normal.

But what happens when you wake up and you realize that not only was that nightmare real, but the reality is worse than the dream?

What we are about to reveal to you over the coming weeks began as a nightmare. Upon peeling back each layer that was revealed, it quickly turned into a rabbit hole spiraling down a tunnel leading, without exaggeration, straight to the gates of hell itself.

And they are organizations whom we worked with in the past. Robert Spencer’s Jihad Watch, Frank Gaffney’s Center For Security Policy, the David Horowitz Freedom Center, PJMedia, FrontPage Magazine, Gatestone Institute, The Heritage Foundation and many many other groups are well known in the conservative world.

But there is another side of these conservative movements nobody even talks about. It is the sordid underbelly of the conservative movement, a movement that while proclaiming to stand for God, Freedom, and Country is little more than a well-constructed facade that is supported by a diverse array of financial, industrial, and personal interests who hate both God and mankind, seeing them as nothing more than vehicles for increasing their own wealth and power and paid by the blood of those whom they say they are helping.

From closed-door meetings to covert operations administered by the governments of the world, from fancy dinner parties with billionaire Silicon Valley power players to secret meetings with the world’s leading minds in eugenics and human experimentation, from the public meetings between self-professed anti-Nazi Christians who are behind closed door directly collaborating with National Socialists involved in the most heinous types of occult activity, we at Shoebat.com are about to show you what you were never meant to see.

And it all comes down to this: Your favorite ‘conservative rightwing’ media, activists, political movements have sold the farm! Not only that, they have partnered with the eugenics movement and view you as little more than a farm animal who they are fattening for slaughter.

It is said that Spencer of Jihad Watch combats Islam. Today (which we will explain later on) he officially partners with occultists and major drug legalizers who promote a Nazi version of Sufi Islam.

The links and videotapes will reveal everything.

Years ago, I would never have dreamt that Robert Spencer will end up as a Judas Iscariot

But before we dig deeper into all the details we ask: do you think that Christians being hurled into concentration camps to be liquidated during the Church’s tribulation is some far-fetched fairy tail?

If you think “this must be done by ‘liberals'” or “it is strictly the ‘Muslims'” or “its the Obama open FEMA’s concentration camp” think again.

How about your most trusted ‘conservative’ sources who are already promoting your end all the while you are thinking these protect and defend your rights, your liberties and your security.

Many believe that the ‘conservative right’ is looking after your best interests by daily exposing the dangerous leftist agenda and that the real danger stems only from Muslims while the Sunni versus the Shiite wars are fought overseas keeping your western hide ‘safe’ as far away as possible from the troubled east.

But once we reveal here (and also in the coming weeks) a litany of articles that connect all the dots with clear and reliable evidence from legitimate sources, you will see how blind you have been about your favorite ‘conservatives’.

The danger is not only coming from the ‘left’ but also from your favorite ‘right’. Perhaps by now you will just click out suspecting we are ‘controlled opposition’.

But after you examine the evidence, you will finally see that the bulk majority of people today drink a blue pill believing a myth that the right ‘republican’ is here to neutralize the leftist ‘democrat’ and that a two party system balancing each other will keep your hide safe.

This is no longer true, and if that is what you believe you are extremely naive. This time around it will be only the stubborn ardent Christian who will make it by enduring till the end while being surrounded by both wolves: democrat plus republican.

Just look at all major businesses today. They are already being arm-twisted to give allegiance to a homosexual culture where these cannot easily buy or sell their products unless they socially comply.

And if you think the homosexual agenda is not a major player in this Antichrist system just ask yourself a very simple question: why does Apocalypse 11:8 mention “Sodom and Egypt” in end-times context?

It is this “Sodom and Egypt” that persecutes the “two lamp stands”.

And Who are these two lamp stands? 

And if this homosexual agenda is not part of the end-times, why does Christ say “remember Lot’s wife“? Remember, this phrase “remember Lot’s wife” is not some isolated phrase. It is in end-times context.

When Noah entered the Ark and when Lot’s wife for just having compassion on Sodom was being destroyed, it was all over, suddenly, in a flash.

You think Christ is mocked believing that your sympathy towards Sodom is ‘love’? This is what Lot’s wife thought. The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah resembles today’s world. What Christ was saying is that many will destruct for disobeying God’s law by rejecting that Sodom is “worthy of death” (Romans 1:32).

This “Noah entering the Ark” and Lot locking himself in under the protection of angels get us to ask: why did the angels have Lot remain indoors while the sodomites where orgying outside trying to force their way in?

This is not a peaceful movement and it will resort to any means of arm-twisting tactics to force Christians to comply even if it means banning them from using social media and in the end even killing them.

Many who would read Marie Julie Jahenny of La Fraudais (1891) would think she is mad when she warns that a day will come when all Christians should lock themselves indoors:

There will come three days of continued darkness. The blessed candle of wax alone will give light during the horrid darkness. … Red clouds like blood will pass in the sky, the crash of thunder will make the earth tremble; lightening will flash through the streets at an unusual time of the year; the earth will tremble to its foundations; the oceans will cast its foaming waves over the land… All vegetation will be destroyed as well as three-fourths of the human race. (Connor, p. 28)

If you think this is myth, Isaiah 26:20 seems to fit this three days of darkness:

“Come, My people, enter your chambers, And shut your doors behind you; Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment, Until the indignation is past. “

And why are both the story of God’s people in Egypt (passover) and also another story in Sodom, both combined as “Sodom and Egypt” and both are persecuting two lamp stands?

This “Come, My people, enter your chambers, And shut your doors behind you” is regarding a day which will be announced when all the remnant Christians must tightly cover their windows and doors so that the tainted air outside including the sodomites not enter. Three days worth of air inside homes is left to survive while the sodomite mock in defiance in the city streets just as in Lot’s day.

These stories about Egypt and Sodom are not some cancelled out Old Testament theology.

And yes, do not forget the beeswax candles. Try telling God that you do not like hyssop during Moses’ time and you’d rather use a regular paintbrush to mark your doors and lintels with the blood of the lamb.

Do you think God will be mocked?

Had God chosen you to be Cain or Abel, would you tell him that its St. Patrick’s Day and you’d rather cook up some apple cider instead of meat? You think you would get away with it?

And why is ancient Israel represented by a single lamp stand (Exodus 25:31) and then the church had Seven Lamp stands, all initially in Asia Minor representing seven branches facing a threat from a seven headed beast (seven evil branches) of an Antichrist system called the “first beast (Rev 13:1)?

This has already come and gone and will revive as the second beast (Rev 13:11) with two horns (two power pegs) we call Sodom and Egypt.

And so if a lamp stand is a branch of the church with multitudes of people, who then are these two lamp stands that suffer in this Jerusalem? But even this Jerusalem is also called by two titles: Sodom and Egypt?

You might reply with: this “Sodom and Egypt” where “our Lord was crucified” is strictly in Jerusalem Israel.

While Christ was crucified in Jerusalem, should we forget the typology here? His Body is also the Church which it too will also be crucified in this other ‘spiritual’ Jerusalem which is Christendom turned Sodom and Egypt where the two Lamp stands (Catholic and Orthodox) are also found dead filling the streets of major cities within Christendom.

Talk about a French Revolution on steroids!

And once this millennium generation rules, more bills will be passed to include everyone who must comply and give allegiance or else suffer being ostracized.

We also find this final solution in Wisdom 2. A lamp stand is not a single individual by scriptural standard, but two entities representing the true Christians.

And we already see this Sodom (homosexuality) and Egypt (neopaganism, the occult and witchcraft explained here) already sweeping the conservatives as we shall reveal in detail later.

When one reads “the idols of Egypt will totter before Him [Christ]” in Isaiah 19, this is also global neopaganism where even much of Christendom would have abandoned the covenant selling out the farm. Ever wonder why in Isaiah 19:2 it says:

“I will stir up Egyptian against Egyptian—

brother will fight against brother,

neighbor against neighbor,

city against city,

kingdom against kingdom.

The kingdom of Egypt is but one, yet here it says “kingdom against kingdom“.

This “Egypt” represents many kingdoms which Christ said “nation against nation”.

While Isaiah 19 speaks of Egypt he hits two nails with one strike of his pen.

These are civil wars, unrest, street wars, national wars … a world gone into complete chaos.

And why do we find so many references about “idols” and people hiding in caves and even the Antichrist, Daniel says, he has “intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.”

These are ‘Christians’ who sold out the farm.

And how is Jerusalem “Egypt” and Egypt in Isaiah constitutes several kingdoms where “nation against nation” which God calls “spiritual Egypt” and it is filled with idols:

“And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.” (Isaiah 19:3)

There is literal Egypt (with its Islam) and then there is this spiritual Egypt. Scriptures confirm, it is “spiritually called Sodom and Egypt” (Revelation 11:8).

And with Wisdom chapter 2 we find the Crucifixion of not just the Son of God, but all the sons of God. And this liquidation is done through eugenics. Today, eugenics is camped in your conservative movement setting you up for your Final Solution.

When it comes to the Church’s Tribulation, most only examine Apocalypse. They ignore other hints that are the least examined prophecies in scripture. Yet it is these hints which truly pin-point the source of this horrifying tale about persecutions.

This by the way is not carried out exclusively by pagans or Muslims, but by elements within Christendom. How else can you interpret Daniel 11’s Antichrist “having intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant“?

These are Christians who are callous about the true covenant and sacraments.

Ask yourself: why today is Holocaust denial an epidemic?

Answer: so that you forget how the entrance says “work camps” while the death chambers were called “showers”.

This enemy will always cover up his real agenda and he knows exactly what you want to hear gearing you like cattle to the slaughterhouse.

It is only at the tail end of this tribulation where Christians are ordered by the angels to enter (as Lot did with his family) and the world will mock the Christians with gay parades in all major cities. This is when God strikes Sodom and Egypt so that afterwards Christians will come out of their homes triumphant.

Christ said to focus on Daniel where Antichrist stops the Communion which is only done by the Two Lamp Stands. These are the Orthodox and the Catholics, the most hated two branches by the world.

Only these two see Communion as a “Grain Offering,” while all others have already abandoned the sacrament of eucharistic sacrifice. Today much of the right is already preaching genetic superiority saying:

let our strength be our norm of righteousness; for weakness proves itself useless.

And today this is in the headlines:

S.B. 494 passed the Oregon Senate by four votes on June 8, 2017. The bill would remove existing safeguards that protect conscious patients’ access to ordinary food and water even after they have lost the ability to make decisions about their care. Did God not warn of this enemy who says:

Let us oppress the poor just man, and not spare the widow, nor honour the ancient grey hairs of the aged. But let our strength be the law of justice: for that which is feeble, is found to be nothing worth. Let us therefore lie in wait for the just, because he is not for our turn [he is passé], and he is contrary to our doings, and upbraideth us with transgressions of the law, and divulgeth against us the sins of our way of life. He boasteth that he hath the knowledge of God, and calleth himself the son of God. He is become a censurer of our thoughts. He is grievous unto us, even to behold: for his life is not like other men’s, and his ways are very different. (Wisdom 2:11-15)

How many from those who abandoned the covenant have bibles stripped out from the Wisdom of chapter 2?

This reveals a language we already hear from even right-wingers promoting eugenists: “for which is feeble [weak], is found to be nothing worth” “not spare the widow, nor honour the ancient grey hairs of the aged”.

But today, this eugenics epidemic is not just some liberal agenda, it is also promoted by major conservative movements as we shall examine abundant confirmed detailed evidence in the next coming weeks.

What you see being passed as law daily is the prelude to Wisdom 2, the persecutor of the Christian, the eugenist, quotes the Christian as saying that “he [the Christian] charges us with violations of our training” and “transgressions of the law,” so that what the eugenist teaches goes contrary to their vocation as scientists and moralists.

Today ‘science’ is working vigorously not to advance life but to “change set laws” (Daniel 7:25) where drugs are to be made legal and where eugenics becomes ‘science’ and is etched into law.

But who else takes the lead combating this besides remnants from the Catholic and Orthodox (the two lamp stands) who insist that scientists must adhere to science rather than fiction? The eugenists are advancing pseudoscientific claims as ‘scientific’. Only these two lamp stands are the main “obstacle in their way”.

But this time around these are but remnant Christians who are cornered while their institutions, activists and politicians including their entire political base would have sold the farm. Who today dare speak out against Sodom as ‘worthy of death’ besides Shoebat.com and a few others? Today many with the label “Christian” who were our friends now hate us more than even Muslims.

And since we are exposed as the Jesuit ‘bad guys’ for converting from Evangelicalism to Catholicism, lets see who ‘kept the holy covenant’ starting with Jihad Watch’s Robert Spencer whom despite being officially Catholic is not attacked by any of the Rome-exposing Evangelicals. They say nothing of his activism partnering with Sigurfreyr Jonasson who is steeped into the darkest brand of the occult: Crowleyism. Is it any wonder why devil covers for devil?

Who in the U.S. even tracks such connections? Most Americans do not even know how to pronounce the name Sigurfreyr much track his activism, official partnership and dealings with Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller.

The moment Spencer knew we were tracking them where Sigurfreyr Jonasson was listed as a member on Spencer’s SIOE (an organization that we have exposed extensively as being ran by and associated with Nazis and criminals in Europe) they instantly removed his name from the list, but we were faster than their tracking and we managed to get a snapshot for proof:

Snapshot from Spencer and Geller’s SIOE’s Facebook page revealing Jonasson of Nordic Wolf Design as partner with Spencer and Geller

But besides this photo, when you go to the official Facebook for SIOE’s Icelandic branch SIOC (Stop the Islamization of Iceland) you will find that numerous times it shared the work of Icelandic politician Valdimar H Jóhannesson, another organizer of the event for Vakur whom Spencer spoke for which seals this collaboration.

Spencer and Johannesson

The occultist, Sigurfreyr Jonasson even comments on Spencer’s articles. Anyone can click his name from Jihad Watch to see the slip from Spencer’s post about how he was going to Iceland:

Sigufreyr says Robert Spencer is not linked to Richard Spencer, but Spencer’s partner, Sigufreyr is fascinated with both Spencers as you shall see

When one clicks on Sigurfreyr’s name, one is taken directly to Sigurfreyr’s official website, which is filled with articles on eugenics and the occult.

In fact, all who read Spencer only know that Spencer ‘visited Iceland’. He wrote reports to scrub and cleanse his host Vakur from liberal attacks while concealing that Sigurfreyr Jonasson and Vakur are major movers and shakers who work the ropes from SIOE’s headquarters in Denmark.

While some might falsely argue a “guilt by association,” Spencer still continues to partner with neo-Nazis to this day even after being notified and their names are still on the official Facebook of SIOE.

But why does he conceal this connection, and who in the U.S. is looking out for you tracking the organizers for these Northern European events that Spencer attends? Actually no one tracks these connections. Sigurfreyr Jonasson is not some ‘Islamophobe’ but an Icelandic occultist, eugenist and neo-Nazi who runs the organization under which the event was organized, called Vakur (there is an Icelandic report on Vakur that you can read here).

According to Icelandic journalist Ágúst Borgþór Sverrisson, Sigurfreyr Jonasson is the organizer for Vakur. But he is kept hidden. All you are supposed to consume is this:

Photo from Vakur’s website advertising the event with Spencer

It took some homework, but our sources in Iceland were able to obtain a photo of Robert Spencer’s partner and colleague, Sigurfreyr Jonasson in a t-shirt. And what it shows should reveal everything you need to know:

According to the company’s official website, Sigurfreyr Jonasson is the head of the “International Web Design Team” for Nordic Wolf, and “has published numerous articles on the web, on topics such as psychology, pedagogy, judicial matters, history, mysticism, drug policy, and the drug war.”

And by “mysticism” it is speaking of Sigurfreyr Jonasson’s deep involvement in the occult. Sigurfreyr Jonasson is so steeped into satanic activities, rituals and weird fascinations that on his Pinterest page one will find it filled with disturbing images; utter satanism, an abhorrence for Christianity and love for occultism. From cluttered dark images of upside-down crosses to the infamous occultist Aleister Crowley, Baphomet and other demons the man is a nightmare:

Jonasson’s Pinterest page reveals his fascination and liking for swastikas:

Here is a closeup shot:

On his website, he wrote an article entitled, “Witches — Their Discipline and Liturgy” in which he describes disturbing and sinister occultic rituals. In the beginning of the article, Jonasson writes:

“In many western cities, if you carefully search, you can find a collection of people who take part in the secrecy of the Norse.”

In one part of the article he describes the use of sex, and even “swallowing semen”, for ritual occultism and witchcraft. He writes:

“In the north, sex and swallowing is a good part of the liturgy of some rules. In some congregations, sexuality is purely symbolic in nature. In that case, a pen is put into a jar filled with red wine, and participants say that ‘the woman’s position is the same as the candle.’”

Image of Jonasson’s article on sex rituals and occultism

Later on in the article, Jonasson describes a very vile and homosexual ritual designed by the famous occultist, Aleister Crowley, in which an occult priest kisses the initiate in the genitals and other parts of his body. Here is Jonasson’s description of this degenerate rite:

“In ceremony to the first degree, the newcomer is brought naked into the mood where the admission takes place. He has a cloth for his eyes and his hands are tied behind him. The chief priest or priest reads him a magic word. Then the newcomer gets the fivefold kiss. He kisses his legs, knees, genitals, breasts and lips.

Then he’s struck forty-four whacks with a whip. Consequently, the secrecy, confidentiality and obedience of the rule are the answer. When the day has been completed, the cloth is taken from the eyes of the newcomer and his hands are solved. He now handles various equipment used in magic spells and is the meaning and role assigned to him.”

Here is a photo of this occult and diabolical article written by Robert Spencer’s colleague, Sigurfreyr Jonasson:

He then goes on to describe a ritual with bread and wine, designed to deliberately mock and evilly corrupt the Catholic Mass. In this ritual, the bread is, at times, even made with blood, as Jonasson himself writes:

“The ‘wine and kitchen port’, however, reminds us of the ordinance of Catholicism aimed at reminding us of Christ’s sacrifice on the cross. In this ceremony, the priest gives bread and wine, which in the eyes of the faithful turns into the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ.

In the north, both the bread and the wine are blessed by the high priest. The bread or cake used is made from salt, honey, wine, flour, oil and in some cases blood.”

Sex rituals are further written on by Jonasson: “Through sexual intercourse, the person communicates with the primary forces that he can not experience in other ways.”

Jonasson ends the article by revealing: “In Iceland there are at least two groups of men and women engaged in the education and rituals of Norway. However, they choose to work in a quiet place.”

This indicates that Jonasson has a knowledge on the occult secret society in Iceland who “work in a quiet place”. They don’t want to be known, yet he knows of them, and of their rituals quite intimately.

Sigurfreyr is personal friends with Elísabet Olka Guðmundsdóttir, a witch and devil worshipper in Iceland. Here she proudly shows off a tattoo of a pentagram. She posed with the tattoo, with Sigurfreyr commenting that the pentagram is “brillijant!”: 

Here is a photo of Jonasson posted by Elisabet, on which Sigurfreyr comments by calling himself “Mr. Skinless Hyde,” referencing the deranged character, “Jackal and Hyde.”

There is a photo of Sigurfreyr as ringleader sitting next to the witch (on his right):

Robert Spencer’s partner, makes obvious his occult circles in Iceland. His photos with an ordained witch reveals an intimate involvement especially when he was present in an occult ritual, an experience that he wrote about in an article published on his site entitled, “Satan is a life, light and thrill.”

Sigurfreyr recounts his experience in the ritual to reveal the brand of Christianity he secretly promotes:

“We are in an abandoned farm in the vicinity of the capital, and there stands an altar of Satan. It is draped with purple cloth, full of mysterious symbols. The altar is magnificent, all the ógnvægleg. She carries a goat head with a crown on his head. On the altar are various objects; skulls, black candles, a dagger and a cross. The cross is inverted. Cold shivers run down my spine to see the most sacred symbol of our Christians in the center of the altar of the devil. The altar stands under the open sky. It is Villa Reale, moon peeks through the clouds and sheds light on three magical beings around the altar. On the altar’s fire in the middle of the candle, he describes the altarpiece. In front of the fire is braziers, that feel bad smelling smoke. It’s like that peculiar odor or an underscore – rather an amount that is eerily an atmosphere that prevails there. The ceremony is about to begin, the Witch orders. A young girl kneels in a white robe to her ankles. Her hands are tied behind her back and a black cloth is on her eyes. On either side of her stand a man and a woman. The man is in a mask, which resembles a pig’s head, and a black robe with a golden five-arm on the back. The woman wears a purple robe, however. They all seem naked under the tunic. They are within a circle in the market with the turf purple powder. Suddenly the woman turns to me, where I’m standing outside the circle, and says in a commanding voice: ‘Turn thou away. Protect your very soul.’ I believe it moderately but decide to stop at nothing.”

In the interview, Jonasson asks the witch who was guiding the ritual:

“You were with a picture of a goat and a cross which was upside down in the middle of the altar. Now goats have long been associated with human ideas about the devil. Are you devil worshipers?”

But her denial is the same denial as when you ask these activists ‘are you Nazis?’ They will instantly deny it. Similarly To Jonasson’s question the witch says:

“No, not in the traditional sense of the word. The shepherd god, the goat, is an everlasting sign of power and wisdom. She is before Christ’s day. The church later moved to the idea of the devil, and then it had a horn and tail to blacken the goat. Since then people have confused this. The pride of a divine being that ancient Egyptians called Shaitan. Christians call him Satan and say he is an opponent. Nothing is so far from the truth. Satan is not an enemy of man but life, light and thrill. He is the source of all that is worth seeking out. His power makes men wise. We receive notices that make men go to sleep, and their lives are joyful. Everything else is hypocrisy. “

Jonasson then asks the witch about sex rituals, to which she says that “sex is an essential element in ceremonies and various other liturgical principles.” Jonasson then asks the witch about the use of drugs in occult rituals, which is interesting given the fact that Jonasson is amongst the biggest drug pushers in Iceland, for its use in the occult. The witch then tells Jonasson:

“The educational principle is discussed in detail of plants and various types of fungi that can be used to open a deeper level of mind awareness. The use of these plants will have to follow certain rules if it is to go. Their effects are spectacular and can be dangerous in some cases. Some of these products will enable us to free the consciousness of the body and travel to other places. These witches have done this for centuries. To this can be attributed to notions of witches flying through the kústsköftum. We fly on the wings of the mind. We do not have the imagination, as some claim, but literally. Furthermore, the use of herbs for medicinal purposes to remedy mental disorders such as depression, shyness, indifference and lead. Then we have used crystals and various kinds of stones to strengthen us, give us endurance and courage. All this has given good results.”

Jonasson talking with a witch about drug rituals, sheds further light as to why he is a heavy promoter of drug use, if not, he is the biggest promoter of drugs in Iceland.

Here is the cover of Sigurfreyr Jonasson’s online book pushing to legalize dangerous narcotics:

Photo of the front cover of Sigurfreyr Jonasson’s book on his drug endeavors

There is one paragraph in the book that really reveals Jonasson’s agenda, targeting youths and legalizing dangerous drugs like MDMA or amphetamine, the very drug that Robbert Spencer claims to have been poisoned with. Jonasson says in his book:

The target group of sigurfreyr.com are 1) people (laymen as well as professionals) who are critical of the present drug policy, 2) young people who want to see a change in the stigma surrounding illegal drug use and 3) people who use cannabis (hashish, marijuana) or other illegal drugs (MDMA, amphetamine) as self-medication and want to see it become part of legal pharmacopoeia again.

Sigurfreyr co-founded a major drug pushing organization called Snarrótin, or the Icelandic Civil Liberties Union (ICLU). Sigurfreyr invited British drug pusher named David Nutt, one of the biggest drug advocates on earth, to speak for his Snarrotin organization. Nutt is also a big advocate for assisted suicide. In one interview, Nutt was asked: “Do you support doctor assisted suicide?” Nutt replied: “Yes, if you mean euthanasia. People have as much right to a peaceful and pain-free death as they do to life prolonging treatments.”

Nutt is also one of the biggest pushers for the use of psilocybin, a hallucinogenic drug that is classified as a class-A narcotic. In Great Britain, Nutt, according to one report, “has held government advisory posts for the Ministry of Defence, Department of Health and the Home Office.” Now Nutt is an advocate for the use of drugs, specifically MDMA, or ecstasy, the very drug found in Robert Spencer’s blood. Here is one video in which he expresses his support for the legalization of MDMA, and talks about how scientists can change the law to legalize this drug:

Nutt believes that MDMA should be available at the pharmacy. As he wrote in one article:

A more radical approach as explained by Transform would be to make safe doses of pure MDMA (eg 80mg/day) available to registered users in a regulated fashion, for example, via pharmacists.

Nutt actually wrote a piece entitled, “Making a medicine out of MDMA,” In this article, Nutt writes:

“Currently there is enough evidence for MDMA to be removed from its Schedule 1 status of ‘no medical use’ and moved into Schedule 2 (alongside other misused but useful medicines such as heroin and amphetamine). Such a regulatory move would liberate its use as a medicine for patients experiencing severe mental illnesses such as treatment-resistant post-traumatic stress disorder.”

Here is a photo from Snarrotin’s “Speakers” page, showing that Nutt spoke for Jonasson’s drug pushing organization:

Perhaps this is the time to unravel Robert Spencer’s claim that he was spiked with MDMA. Robert Spencer went to Iceland and claims he was poisoned with MDMA, and yet he was speaking in an event organized by the biggest MDMA pusher in Iceland. What are the odds? Spencer’s medical report shows that he consumed MDMA, and that he was suffering from moderate Hyponetremia (which is a Hyponetremia level between 120 and 130), which is what ravers in night clubs suffer when taking MDMA with excessive amounts of liquid:

How could somebody who wants to kill Spencer, as he claims, give him just a moderate amount of MDMA?

Even after Spencer’s experience with drugs in Iceland (claiming his drink was spiked) he still continued to work with Jonasson, as is evidenced by the fact that Sigurfreyr became officially a member of Spencer’s organization, SIOE. On his Facebook page, Jonasson posted an article entitled “How to Drink Hallucinogenic Beer Like a Viking Shaman” above which Jonasson writes: “Need to pick up some noble customs of the ancestors!”

MDMA causes people to act like zombies, or what they call “gurning.” If you look at photos of people high off ecstasy, you will see this zombie like behavior. Here, here is what Sigurfreyr Jonasson and his allies are promoting:

Sigurfreyr organized an event in Iceland for Snarrotin. The key speaker for the event was one of the biggest drug pushers in the world, Ethan Nadelmann. Here is photo from the official website of Snarrotin, of Sigurfreyr with Nadelmann:

 

Despite all of the hoopla on how liberals like George Soros desire to control the world, here we have Robert Spencer’s partner, Jonasson, in cahoots with a Soros paid agent: Ethan Nadelmann.

Nadelmann was chosen by George Soros to lead his organization, the Lindesmith Center in 1994, a pro-drug institute financed by none other than the infamous George Soros himself. According to a 1999 article published by the Nation, the oldest continuously published weekly magazine in the United States:

Soros invited Nadelmann to lunch. After further discussions, in 1994 Soros agreed to create the Lindesmith Center and put Nadelmann at the helm. The center (named for the late Professor Alfred Lindesmith of Indiana University, the first prominent US academic to challenge the war on drugs approach) became the first of what are now dozens of domestic programs run out of OSI. Today, it has eighteen employees in New York and San Francisco and a modest budget of $1.7 million.”

Sigurfreyr Jonasson, on his official Snarrotin website, boasted about how his organization participated in the “international premiere” report for a meeting organized by the Global Commission on Drug Policy, which is a major organization consisting of world leaders and elite intellectuals, that pushes for the legalization of all drugs. Jonasson writes about the ‘big-wigs’ involved in the milieu of major organizers and world leaders, pushing for universal drug usage:

 “It is a great honor for Snarrotin to participate in the international premiere of the new report of the Global Commission on Drug Policy (GCDP), but it will undoubtedly attract the same attention as previous reports from the committee.

The New York, New York Presentation Meeting will be broadcast online, where members of the Committee will report and present the content of the report.

The former speakers include Swiss, Ruth Dreifuss, former Foreign Minister of Norway,Thorvald Stoltenberg, former Brazilian president, Fernando Henrique Cardoso, former Mexican president, Ernesto Zedillo, former president of Colombia, César Gaviria, businessman Richard Branson and others.”

What makes this whole thing disturbing is that Robert Spencer’s partner and colleague, Sigurfreyr Jonasson, is here soliciting for former Mexican president, Ernesto Zedillo, who is a member of the Global Commission on Drug Policy, and a pro-drug activist who worked with Mexican cartels while he was president of Mexico. According to a report by Statfor:

Gulf cartel founder Juan Garcia Abrego, also a protege of Felix Gallardo, was arrested in 1996. Garcia Abrego allegedly was linked to Raul Salinas and other high-ranking officials in the government of then-President Ernesto Zedillo. Garcia Abrego’s successor as leader of the Gulf cartel, Osiel Cardenas Guillen, was arrested in 2003 and, like Garcia Abrego, was deported to the United States and convicted in a U.S. court; he is currently incarcerated in the “Supermax” penitentiary in Florence, Colo.

Ruth Dreifuss, the politician who served as President of the Swiss Confederation in 1999, and who Jonasson supports and solicits for, is a “a vigorous defender of abortion,” which is interesting given the fact that Sigurfreyr Jonasson is a supporter of even what conservatives constitute as the infamous eugenist organization, Planned Parenthood. As we see from his Twitter account, Jonasson shows his advocation for the eugenist organization:

THE EUGENICS AND NEO-PAGANISM CONNECTION

Reading through one of Jonasson’s websites, one finds a dark connection with racial occultism, even a belief in Middle Eastern occultism, and also racialist heretical beliefs. When most hear these activist say “we support Israel” they are unaware what these mean by ‘Israel’ or do they even dig deep to understand what they mean by that name? Jonasson is a subscriber to the heresy called “Nordic Israelism” which states that the true Jews are those of the Scandinavian race. There is an article on his website, entitled “The prophecies about Iceland”, written by one Dr. Helgi Pjeturss, an Icelandic nationalist, occultist and Theosophist. The article takes the verse from Isaiah that says: “Therefore glorify the LORD among the fires, the name of the Lord, the God of Israel, in the islands of the west” and interprets it to mean that the Icelandic race, and not the Jews, are the chosen people of God.

Referencing racial supremacist, Adam Rutherford, the post on Jonasson’s website reads: “Icelanders, but not Jews, were God’s chosen people.” The article references Rutherford’s book, “Iceland’s Great Inheritance,” which states that the Icelandic race is the purest race in Europe, and that it is an untainted descendent of the Tribe of Benjamin. Amongst the many heretical and bizarre things written in this book, one line reads: “While Benjamite blood is thus by no means exclusively confined to Iceland, nevertheless, it is definitely the strongest and purest there. Benjamin is therefore centered in Iceland.” The article on Jonasson’s website writes:

“The only big islands in the west are the British Isles and Iceland, but what Rutherford says is that it is a private island and it is the people on the island that promotes spiritual awakening in other countries.

In the prophecies, the islands are described as being in the middle of the fire (“on the eastern roads” according to the Icelandic translation). In our world we do not know of fires other than fossils, and of these islands, Iceland is one that has glaring volcanoes. In addition, in Iceland, more volcanoes are relatively large in size than in any other country.

The Hebrew word urim , which is translated with fires in the English Bible, also means light (fl.). The only natural light on earth that can be widely mentioned is the polar light (northern lights and southern lights) and the only island that stays close to either Arctic to see the lights clearly everywhere in Iceland is Icelanders.

The prophecy spreads the island so that it is on the outermost edge of the earth or, as the ancient nations said, Ultima Thule.”   

This “Ultima Thule” is connected to none other than Nazi occultism. The earliest Nazis belonged to a cult called the Thule Society, founded by the occultist and Sufi Muslim, Rudolf von Sebottendorf, who believed that Iceland was the original land of the Aryans. Rudolf Hess, Alfred Rosenberg, Hans Frank, Julius Lehmann, Gottfried Feder, Dietrich Eckart, and Karl Harrer, were all major members of the Nazi Party and also members of the Thule Society. In fact, the Thule Society was amongst the earliest sponsors of the National Socialists in Germany. The fact that Sigurfreyr believes in this, and that Robert Spencer serves his organization, Vakur, indicates that Spencer is speaking for a Nazi pagan cult in Iceland.

At face-value when people are served by these pretending conservatives a diet on the dangers of multiculturalism by Robert Spencer and partners, here we have Sigurfreyr Jonasson supporting Pierre Krebs, the German neo-Nazi who founded a neo-pagan cult called “Thule Seminar,” with words against multiculturalism. Vakur openly supports and advocates for the work of Pierre Krebs, as we see from its official Facebook page which supposedly exposes the dangers of multiculturalism, while attacking the very Judeo-Christian ethics which Spencer claims to defend:

Jonasson also supports the neo-Nazi cult leader, as he liked this post soliciting his work:

This book that Vakur (which Spencer served) endorses and advertises for is filled with typical neo-Nazi and eugenist talk. In one page it says:

“Unlike a colonised people who can return to their roots as soon as they free themselves from the foreign yoke, a mongrelised people are a genetically manipulated people that no longer have any roots.” (p. 23)

In another part of this book, Krebs refers to “the followers of Jesus Christ” as being a part of a cultural marxist conspiracy to destroy White identity. In other words, Krebs sees Christianity as the enemy to his ethnocentrist ideology:

“Egalitarianism may well postulate that races do not exist, but anyone taken at random can recognize a White from a Black, and a Black from a Yellow. To be sure, everything would be much easier if it were possible to prohibit races a vow difficult to realise because it comes down to prohibiting Nature de facto. Being unable to constrain the latter, the followers of Jesus Christ, Karl Marx and Big Brother are therefore going to try to destroy it.” (p. 28)

The official banner of the Thule Seminar consists of the German black eagle, the black sun image, which was used by the Nazis, and the Nazi Wolfsangel (which is also the symbol of the Ukrainian Neo-Nazi Azov terrorist organization) with an arrow going through it, representing Northern Europe:

Krebs considers himself to be an “ethno-socialist” which is no different than calling oneself a national socialist. In 2012, Pierre Krebs did a lecture in Dornach, Switzerland, entitled, The Departure of the Ethno-socialists, the transcript of which was published by the “Thule-Gesellschaft” which literally means Thule Society.

In this lecture, Krebs expressed his ideology, and the things he said were no different than what you would find in Hitler’s Mein Kampf, or other leading national socialist figures of the Third Reich. In one part of the lecture, Krebs said:

“My friends: all men are brethren, but not brethren in the sense of artificial equanimity, but in their unique character. Only then and then can humans experience, experience, experience the spark of the divine; only then and then can they perceive their unfettered being, only so and only then can they express their natural existence, only in such a way and only then. They all agree today that a counter-defense must aim at the necessary departure from the system, based on the new birth of a Europe of Indo-European values, customs, metaphysics. A newly conceived organic economy sets a radical end to speculative capitalism and interest — in other words, the rule of Homo Oeconomicus [economic man], chasing its small financial clique from the east coast to hell, relinquishing politics as the motor of history and confessing to a national socialism.”

But this connect is not solely an associate of an associate. Rather, this ideology of Krebs coincides with the very ideology of Sigurfreyr Jonasson and his organization, Vakur, which Robert Spencer discreetly spoke for, since on the official Facebook page of Vakur it reads:

“Vakur – The European Culture Society wishes to promote the Indo-European cultural heritage in Iceland and to counteract policies that violate European values.”

The official website for Vakur explains its agenda as being for the promotion of the:

“customs and ways of thinking of the Germanic peoples, who from the beginning to the end of the Viking migration put his mind on almost all the nations of the North Hemisphere.”

And if you wonder under what ideology Christians will soon be hurled into concentration camps, look no further than to Pierre Krebs. Krebs, the man whose work Sigurfreyr Jonasson endorses, wants to eradicate and abolish Christianity from Europe. On his Thule Seminar website, he published an article written by one Carlos Dufour, entitled Elements for the abolition of Christianity

In this article is expressed support for the Emperor Julian the Apostate for his persecution of Christians, hatred for Christianity for its rejection of eugenics (which it calls “biopolitics), and the total exhortation for the eradication of Christianity for the new pagan Europe that neo-Nazis so envision:

“Emperor Julian was tolerant of the religions, but before the sight of Christianity, he felt overwhelmed by the feeling that he was facing a spiritual migration, against a revolutionary internationalism.
Nietzsche maintained that we entered with Christianity a world of fiction with all imaginary causes and imaginary effects. Original sin: the imaginary cause par excellence, and the first salvation through baptism: the imaginary effect par excellence. That is why deep-seated nationalists have regarded Christianity as a rebellion against natural laws. Just as this life is not true life, your people should not be your true people. How could a real Christian take biopolitics seriously?
In summary, the following has been proved: Christianity is an impertinence as a revelation, a contentless joke, and a maximum danger in the harsh world of facts. We do not know if Europe will survive, but if so, it will be without Christianity.”
Notice how these combat salvation by Baptism, which is the same sort of sentiments that anti-Catholic protestants harbor.
In an interview, Pierre Krebs said:

In our view, ethnopluralism is outdated, because in Europe today the deadly spirit of ethno-masochism reigns. Biology, however, can never be caught within an ism, and so we simply plead for a European ethno-consciousness.” 

The article on Iceland in prophecy, posted on Jonasson’s site, quotes a line from the occultic Arabic book, the “Akbar-Ezzeman” of the 10th Century Sufi Islamic scholar, Massoudi, on the “wisdom” of an Egyptian pyramid in order to prove the divine destiny of Iceland, that is, geometrical occultism: 

“Shortly before the start of World War II, the teachings of the English pyramid Adams Rutherford attracted considerable attention in this country.

Dr. Adam Rutherford had conducted thorough research on the Great Pyramid at Giza, Egypt.

Like many pyramids of that time, Rutherford claimed that the Great Pyramid was a propaganda of stone graven.

The ancient Arabic Akbar-Ezzeman script confirms this view. The script says:

‘He (ie, the Great Pyramid) has the wisdom and knowledge of various arts and sciences, numerology and metrology, so that they can be stored as reports for the benefit of those who later understand them … the stance of the stars and their traffic, Along with the history and logic of recent times and the times that come true.’

Adam Rutherford considered Pyramidism to be very clear from the geometric globalization of Iceland, indicating the symbols of Iceland’s purpose in preparing for the world’s new world, which he believed was expected.”

Jonasson’s post describes Iceland as “the Virgin of the West” that will have a choice either to bring “spiritual revival” to the world or be “an idiot”. It writes:

“Iceland will be like a lightning in a dark world, and then, ‘Icelanders will prepare to solve challenges that will bring great blessing to all mankind.’ Icelanders will tend the light that causes the spiritual revival to spread with many peoples. ‘The Virgin of the West’ is to become an idiot or a light bearer that refers to humanity into a new era of history.”

Jonasson was the bass player for a band called ÞEYR, which had popularity back in the 80s and 90s. The agenda of the band was to spread the ideology of a neo-pagan revival in Northern Europe, to instill into people a rejection of Christianity and a belief in the pre-Christian Norse gods. It was a “back to roots” movement, trying to get Icelanders to return back to the religion of their pagan ancestors. The most well known member of the band, Hilmar Örn Hilmarsson, once took care of the management of the band, but this position was taken by Spencer’s partner, Jonasson.

A page about the band. As one can see, Jonasson was in charge of management

After this the band increased in popularity and even produced an album entitled: The Fourth Reich. While the band claimed that they were against Nazism, their use of the Swastikas, the fact they cry the name of Rudolf Hess in one of their songs, all indicate an elusive strategy by which to promote Nazism, in which it is propagated under the guise of being “anti-fascist.” According to one report:

“Magnússon returned to Þeyr, and the band toured Scandinavia. By this point, Guðni and Hilmar decided to leave the band’s management, and were replaced by Guðmundur Sigurfreyr Jónason. With the tour, the band gained more popularity and even managed to appear on radio and television in Denmark, they also went to a studio and recorded a few songs which were released on the 12-inch EP The Fourth Reich, in memory of Wilhelm Reich whose books had been banned by the Nazi regime. The image cover was alleged Nazi incitation because it depicted Wilhelm Reich wearing a Nazi-styled armband and the British label Shout was obligated to change the cover.”

In 1983, the band Þeyr released an album called Mjötviður til Fóta, According to one record, the managers behind the album were Guðni Rúnar Agnarsson, the neo-pagan Hilmar Örn Hilmarsson, and Spencer’s partner, Guðmundur Sigurfreyr Jónason.

On the album one can see the letters “SS” on a black sun disk:

One of the songs on the album is entitled, “Rudolf,” referring to one of the most famous SS officers in the Third Reich, Rudolf Hess.

In the music video for the song, “Rudolf,” one can see the band members bearing Swastikas, dressing up as Nazis and screaming the name “Rudolf!” referring to the SS killer, Rudolf Hess. One can also see a clip of Hitler speaking in the music video:

Jonasson actually believes that Hitler, because of his gift to predict the actions of his enemies, held occult powers. He writes:

“Historical sources report that Hitler had correctly predicted when his troops would occupy Paris. He also said exactly the day when Roosevelt, the US president, would die. Moreover, it is clear that his intuition or foresight was very useful when evaluating responses needed by foreign countries in various actions against the German Nazi regime. A good example is when Hitler decided to restore the Rhine countries. Both domestic and foreign experts in international politics felt that such a step would call for harsh reaction from France and Britain. Hitler predicted, however, that they would not act and it worked.”

Clip from Sigurfreyr Jonasson’s post on Hitler and the Occult.

Jonasson concludes that Hitler, because of his supposed ability to predict things, “made contact with forces from the deeper soul of the soul.”

In another article on Jonasson’s site, entitled “Nazi Mysticism,” Robert Spencer’s friend describes Hitler’s life as “miraculous,” writing:

His [Hitler’s] story is miraculous. When he entered the German Labor Party it ‘was nothing but a pitiful obscenities club with less than ten members. In a few months Adolf managed with enormous depth and energetic activities and great determination to change this insignificant club in the mass movement that gathered rapidly down to the height of power.

He writes in one article that Aleister Crowley, the infamous occultist, pervert and drug addict, was amongst the “entrepreneurs in the history of science and the arts who used drugs of various types to expand and explore the inner world of his own mind. Some scholars believe that the human need to explore the variability of their knowledge – whether with the help of drugs or other means – is not only normal, inherent in disposition, similar to hunger or sexual desire, but also essential for the health and development of mankind.”

He then praises this deviant occultist, saying: “Crowley was a pioneer of scientific exploration of consciousness and in the efforts he used in the sex practices of Tantra Yoga”.  

In the 1980s, the member of the band, Hilmar Örn Hilmarsson, founded a center for the promotion of the work of Wilhelm Reich, an Austrian psychoanalyst who promoted “adolescent sexuality and the availability of contraceptives, abortion and divorce”. Hilmar co-founded the organization with “Guðmundur S. Jónason” or Guðmundur Sigurfreyr Jónason, Robert Spencer’s partner. According to one report:

“It was a center created in 1982 by him, Guðlaugur K. Óttarsson and Guðmundur S. Jónason to promote the work of [Wilhelm] Reich by means of orgone therapists and lectures.”   

Jonasson’s partner, Hilmar, would eventually become a “high priest” in the “Asatru Association,” or an association founded to bring the Northern European people away from Christianity and back to the pre-Christian pagan religion of Scandinavia. “Hilmar Örn was ordained as allsherjargoði or chief goði of the Ásatrúarfélagið during a formal ceremony held on 4 July 2003. He is a recognized authority on indigenous Norse paganism” reads one report on him.

The reason why these people are promoting paganism is not because they want to ‘return people to their roots.’ That is all an illusion and a scheme. The real reason is because they are of the spirit of antichrist and want to replace Christianity with their diabolical religion. A recent report on the Asatru cult says that White supremacists worship Odin because they despise the “mongrelized” teachings of Jesus. Daniel Burnside, a racist Odinist in Pennsylvania, recently said:

“Turning the other cheek and it’s all going to be OK, that isn’t the answer a lot of people who are turning to Odinism are looking for … They’re looking for the idea of, do you want to be the nail, or do you want to be the hammer?”

Anders Breivik, the Norwegian mass murderer who slaughtered over seventy people, held the same anti-Christian beliefs. In an interview after his conviction, he said:

“There are few things in the world more pathetic than the Jesus figure and his message, and I have always despised the weakness and the internationalism that the church represents”

Sigurfreyr himself recently expressed support for the wearing of Thor’s Hammer, saying:

“Thor’s hammer is in my opinion part of Icelandic cultural heritage and nothing to be ashamed of.”

Anytime someone wears the medallion of Thor’s Hammer, it is a signal that they are pagan neo-Nazis. Glenn Cross, a White supremacist who murdered three people at Jewish centers in Kansas, wore a Thor’s Hammer pendant. Ryan Giroux, a pagan nazi who murdered one person and injured five others in Arizona, had the Thor’s Hammer image tattooed on his chin. Martin Sellner, the leader of the eugenist, neo-Nazi Identitarian movement in Austria (who Shoebat.com directly debated) did an interview for the racist front group, “Center for Continental Cooperation,” in which he promoted a social construct in which Catholics embrace paganism. He calls these types of “Catholics,” “Solar Catholics”. Like the White supremacists in the US, Sellner promotes the wearing of Thor’s Hammer, even for Catholics:

“We say that we fight against the enemies of all European cultural and religious traditions. This is why radical neopagans wearing Thor’s hammer, for example, stand hand in hand with staunch Catholic and Orthodox Christians during our summer camp in France. They have a mutual respect for each other’s religiosity. Even representatives from such novel movements such as the “solar Christians” (fr. chretiens solairs) appeared among the French identitarians. They are baptized Christians, faithful children of the Church, yet they are not opposed to celebrating pagan seasonal holidays as part of their North-European cultural heritage.” 

Jonasson’s colleague Hilmar Hilmarsson is the leading figure of reviving this paganism in Iceland:

Hilmar is now behind the construction of the first pagan temple in Iceland since the Viking age:

EUGENICS AND NAZISM

In the ideology of Robert Spencer’s partner, Sigurfreyr Jonasson, occultism and eugenics are combined, which is the same mix of evil beliefs that was held by the Nazis. On Sigurfreyr’s Pinterest page, there is a whole section of images that advertise modern day eugenist figures, such as Jared Taylor of the American eugenist organization, Amren; Danish eugenist, Helmuth Nyborg; Canadian eugenist, Stefan Molyneux; American eugenist, Charles Murray; American Alt-Right leader, Richard Spencer; Swedish neo-pagan and eugenist, Daniel Friberg, the founder of Arktos Media, which collaborates with the Ukrainian neo-Nazi terrorist organization, Azov; and American eugenist and former Heritage Foundation employee, Jason Richwine.

Here you can see that Jonasson has a section of his Pinterest page for Alt-Right material:

 

Looking at Sigurfreyr’s Youtube channel, it is obvious that he admires the eugenist and White nationalist, Richard Spencer:

Sigurfreyr Jonasson, one of the organizers behind the event for Robert Spencer in Iceland, quoted Daniel Friberg on October of last year on his Facebook page.

Here is the quote:

“Our historical subject is Europe, and we first and foremost stand for and defend the interests of her and her peoples. This does not in any way preclude good will towards, or cooperation with, other peoples and political groups. However, every person in Sweden and Europe deserves political authorities who will stand for the Swedish and European peoples, when their safety or welfare is under threat, and who will seek to preserve and improve their welfare.”

When you click on the link you are taken to a page of Sigurfreyr Jonasson’s website that praises Friberg and promotes his work in advocating racialist and pagan writers like Pierre Krebs, Guillaume Faye, Alain de Benoist, Paul Gottfried, Tomislav Sunic, Oswald Spengler and others.

The page reads:

“Daniel Friberg holds an MBA degree from Gothenburg Business School and CEO of the Swedish mining company Wiking Mineral. Friberg is the founding member of the Swedish think tank Motpol and Arktos, which is known for publishing books by ideologists of new culture and novelty.”

There are a number of things to observe here. One, the page promotes Paul Gottfried, one of the godfathers of the Alt-Right and the mentor of Richard Spencer; both of these men were amongst the first advocates for Alt-Right ideology and shared platforms in one of the earliest centers for the Alt-Right, the Bodrum conference in Turkey, which is associated with, financed and supported by Turkish elites, on which we have written extensively.

Secondly, the page on Jonasson’s site promotes a video of a Swedish lecture given by Friberg, entitled “Victory or Valhalla.” Valhalla is the afterlife in the pre-Christian Scandinavian religion, the place where the warriors who died in battle were believed to have gone, to enjoy for eternity sex, alcohol and endless battle, making Valhalla very similar to the Islamic paradise. Friberg is literally calling for pagan jihad and saying that his pagan warriors will receive either victory or enteral pleasures in Valhalla. Thirdly, Friberg is the founder of Arktos Media, and he co-founded it with John Morgan. Morgan is an American who has worked closely with the Nazi party of Ukraine, Svoboda.

Svoboda reveres the Ukrainian Nazi, Stepan Bandera, who with his chief lieutenants once wrote that “Muscovites, Poles, and Jews” would be “destroyed . . . in particular those who protect the [Soviet] regime.” Bandera and his minions also wrote: “it is permissible to liquidate undesirable Poles”.

Poles and Russians are traditionally Catholic and Orthodox Christians, the elements that make up the two lamp stands. And from this you can see how such pagans will target Christendom.

John Morgan also works with Amren, the American eugenist organization that also collaborates with the Flemish White Power activist and EU parliamentarian, Filip DeWinter, the one who organized the Counterjihad Summit in 2007 in the EU parliament in Brussels.

It was this meeting in Brussels, which was financed by Christine Brim, who was working as an agent for Frank Gaffney’s Center for Security Policy, that would commence the Counterjihad as an official movement. Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Norwegian eugenist Peder Are Nøstvold Jensen, and numerous other Counterjihad activists were invited to the meeting. 

This all reveals an ideological and political international network between European Nazis, American eugenists, American think-tank agents (like Frank Gaffney) who are very close with US government officials, the Counterjihad, the Alt-Right, racialists in Turkey (the Bodrum conference), and the European Union (since Filip Dewinter is indeed in the EU parliament). The Counterjihad is simply just one part of an international movement to push the world into chaos, eugenics and Nazi and racialist ideology.

Sigurfreyr Jonasson promoted the book, Generation Identity, by Markus Willinger, which was published by Daniel Friberg’s Arktos Media:

Jonasson, in Icelandic, says: “Declaration of War against the Political Party, and in particular, the impact of the 68 generation on society.” The “68 generation” is a term used by the Far-Right in Germany to describe the left wing generation in West German who, during the 60s, protested for the removal of politicians with Nazi pasts, amongst other things. When these talk about “fighting the Left,” they are speaking of combating only those leftists who oppose Nazism. 

The author that he is here promoting, Markus Willinger, is very anti-Christian and pushes for an ethnocentric paganism. In this book solicited by Jonasson, it pushes for a Darwinist religion, saying: “Sometimes we believe in something, sometimes in nothing. A bit in God, a bit in biology, a bit in everything, and a bit in nothing.” The book is also anti-Catholic, with Willinger writing: “When we think of the Church, nothing but intolerance and backwardness come to mind.” In one part of another one of his books, A Europe of Nations, it reads:

The truth is that Christianity is dead in Europe. For a long time it hasn’t been the crucial factor in the lives of the European peoples; it is no longer their driving force; and they no longer derive the meaning of their lives from it. …If we Europeans are still Christians, we are pagan Christians, without any global ambitions and without a claim to rule the world. It is a polytheistic Christianity that we believe in today. We believe in our God, and say that others believe in their gods too. We’ve lost the will to proselytise. Today we are closer to pagan Europe than to the Europe from of a thousand years ago.” (p. 76)

And in another part of the book it reads:

“If Europe is to renew itself, it must honour its pagan heritage. If Europe is to be reborn, it needs a new renaissance of all European values, including those of ancient Greece and Rome. It must fill its old festivals with life once again, break its chains to American culture, and rediscover itself. The missionary Europe of previous centuries is now at an end.” (p. 77)

In Sigurfreyr’s website there is a section entitled, “Scientific research and [the] evil that accompanies diversity” in which are posted several writings on how certain genetic makeups lead to violence and conflict.

Jonnason is presenting eugenist literature to prove his racialist ideology and worldview.

Jonasson links to the articles but does not put their titles; rather, he presents them with a quote from the publication that he likes. We took screenshots of the list of linked quotes from eugenist articles presented by Jonasson:

He presents a link to one of these eugenist writings with a quote that reads as such: “Genetic diversity has Contributed significantly to frequencies of ethnic civil conflict, intensity of social unrest, growth of unshared policy preferences, and economic inequality over the last half-century”, essentially attributing human conflict with people’s genetic makeups.

The actual article itself is entitled: “The Nature of Conflict” and it is written by Cemal Eren Arbatli, a Turkish economist who graduated from the University of Istanbul who now serves as a professor in Moscow; Quamrul H. Ashraf, associate professor of economics in William College; and Oded Galor, an Israeli economist. What is interesting is that a Turk, an Indian and an Israeli are conspiring to advance the cause of eugenics, which only indicates that evil has no race, and that the ideology of Social-Darwinism is not limited only to Western European elites. Lets not forget that the Young Turks, the Ottoman elites who conducted the systematic extermination of Christians in the 20th century, believed in Darwinism and eugenics. Here you have three different persons, each of a distinct ethnic group, writing to cause racial conflict. This demonstrates that different races can unite to promote racism; this proves that the goal is not racism unto itself, but rather an ideological unity with the objective to cause chaos, and this chaos will only lead to the persecution of Christians.

Cemal Eren, Turkish eugenist

 

Quamrul H. Ashraf

 

Oded Galor

In the paper written by these three eugenists, and linked to by Robert Spencer’s comrade, Jonasson, it emphatically declares that genetic diversity in a society leads to conflict: 

“This research establishes that the emergence, prevalence, recurrence, and severity of intrastate conflicts in the modern era reflect the long shadow of prehistory. Exploiting variations across national populations, it demonstrates that genetic diversity, as determined predominantly during the exodus of humans from Africa tens of thousands of years ago, has contributed significantly to the frequency, incidence, and onset of both overall and ethnic civil conflict over the last half-century, accounting for a large set of geographical and institutional correlates of conflict, as well as measures of economic development. Furthermore, the analysis establishes the significant contribution of genetic diversity to the intensity of social unrest and to the incidence of intragroup factional conflict.”

In another part of the paper, it reads:

“Our findings thus far establish that the genetic diversity of a contemporary national population is a robust and significant reduced-form contributor to the risk of civil conflict in society, as manifested by the frequency, prevalence, and emergence of both overall and ethnic civil conflict events over the past half-century.”

In another paper written by the Israeli professor, Oden Galor, it advocates for “sex-selection” abortion in Taiwan. Galor categorizes women into three groups: Type 1, Type 2 and Type 3. Type 1 women are those who will always desire to have children; Type 2 will only want to get pregnant “if they have a reasonable probability of having a boy”; and Type 3 women never want to get pregnant. In the twisted reasoning of Oded, the legalization and cheap cost of abortion will increase the births from women who desire only a boy and who know that the option of abortion will always be available if they so choose to murder their own unborn children if its not the desired gender.  Galor writes: “by increasing the expected value of giving birth (e.g. the probability of having a son), it has increased the number of births from mothers who bore a high cost of child bearing and who otherwise would not have had children.” Galor concludes at the end of his paper that

the introduction of abortion will have heterogeneous effects on fertility in contexts where there is son-preference and pre-natal sex detection technology is readily available. On the one hand, it will reduce the number of children born from unwanted pregnancies. On the other hand, a decrease in the costs of sex-selection from sex-selective abortion could induce women who bear a high cost of child rearing to have children.”

Another eugenist writing that Jonasson quotes and links to on his website is one written by the Finnish eugenist, Tatu Vanhanen, entitled: “Ethnic Nepotism as a Cross-Cultural Background Factor of Ethnic Conflicts.” Jonasson quotes a line from the paper, that states:

“[E]thnic heterogeneity [diversity] Explains 55% of the variation in the scale of ethnic Conflicts, and the results of regression analysis disclose that the same relationship applies more or less to all 187 countries. … [E]thnic nepotism is the common cross-cultural background factor-which supports the persistence of ethnic Conflicts in the world as long as there are ethnically divided form societies”.

Tatu Vanhanen

In another part of the paper, Vanhanen states that conflict and ethnicity — as opposed to conflict and ideology or morality — are interconnected. He writes:

“I prefer primordialist conceptualization of ethnicity and seek ultimate explanations for ethnic conflicts from biological factors.”

Vanhanen believes that intelligence, or IQ, is inherited and that this inherited intelligence determines the state of ethnic groups:

“We found that national IQ explains more of the variation in human conditions than any other explanatory variable. It is highly interesting to see whether this applies also to ethnic conflicts. In this study it is assumed that national IQ is an explanatory variable which is able to explain a significant part of the variation in ethnic conflicts, too.”

Vanhanen, in the same writing, actually talks about how he worked and still works with the virulent eugenist, Richard Lynn, in producing literature on how IQ is inherited and how it determines the peace or the conflict of a nation. In the paper, Vanhanen says:

“Richard Lynn has had a leading role in the study of intelligence differences between nations see (Nyborg, 2013: p. X). I began to co-operate with Lynn in 1999 and to produce comparative studies on the impact of intelligence differences to human conditions. We found that national IQ explains more of the variation in human conditions than any other explanatory variable. It is highly interesting to see whether this applies also to ethnic conflicts. In this study it is assumed that national IQ is an explanatory variable which is able to explain a significant part of the variation in ethnic conflicts, too.” 

Notice that Vanhanen makes a reference to Nyborg, whose full name is Helmuth Nyborg. Its important to point this out because Nyborth is a Danish eugenist, who is admired by Sigurfreyr Jonasson.

Helmuth Nyborg, the Danish member of this eugenist network, advocates for “negative eugenics” or the belief that murder, infanticide and abortion are a means of “weeding out” those seen as undesirable for human evolution. In one writing, Nyborg writes:

“‘Negative’ eugenics aims to curtail deleterious traits in a population through various programmes of weeding people out. Possible methods include infanticide, homicide, abortion, sterilisation, legislation, social policy and even social pressure.”    

So now you know how Wisdom 2 will be fulfilled. Nyborg actually believes in imposing government policy to stop certain people, who he deems as inferior, from having children. In 2011, Nyborg wrote a paper entitled, “The decay of Western civilization: Double relaxed Darwinian Selection.” In this writing Helmuth, referencing his colleague Richard Lynn, states that all of humanity originally came from Africa, and that the people who migrated to northern Europe developed a superior intelligence and genetic makeup through Darwinian evolution. Nyborg writes:

“Science and civilization owe much to Richard Lynn for his decade-long attempts to identify major factors behind the rise and fall of modern populations. In Race differences in intelligence: An evolutionary analysis (2006) Lynn mapped geographic variations in intelligence, and explained related race differences by Cold Winters theory, according to which people from Africa migrated up North, and met still more harsh climatic challenges, so they had to develop new ways of preserving food, heat-efficient cloth and sheltering, complex traps, and later agricultural, industrial and urban ways of life. As they migrated further North, they became increasingly exposed to unforgiving Darwinian Selection for superior intelligence, health, and character.”

In another part of this diabolical work, Nyborg laments how old eugenist policies for preventing the “unfit” from marrying are no longer being enacted, and he also expresses his favor of the elimination of the elderly, on how abortion and infanticide have been used as a means of “natural selection” and the elimination of children he deems as “unfit”:    

“Natural selection previously worked through the elimination of the old and via social-class differentials in the number of children surviving to adulthood. The greater reproductive fitness of the upper and middle classes indicates the presence of positive natural selection for intelligence, as does negative selection in the lower classes with higher mortality, more infanticides and abortionsundernourishment associated lower fertility, bad health and higher mortality rate among illegitimate children, and strong social controls preventing marriage for the unfit, thereby typically reducing their procreation.”

How else do you think Wisdom 2 will be fulfilled? when it says:

Let us oppress the righteous poor;

let us neither spare the widow

nor revere the aged for hair grown white with time. (Wisdom 2:10)

While Nyborg will say that the drive to protect the weak is “noble,” he declares — just as the National Socialists of old once did, that this sympathy will only lead to the destruction of “civilization,” as he writes:

“The noble, ethically motivated, preservation of the weak inevitably leads to self-destruction through a progressive reduction in the quality of the genetic material for superior intelligence, health, fertility and personality – traits essential for the rise and sustainability of advanced civilizations.”

Nyborg describes the Danish as a “tribe” whose existence is being threatened by what he calls “IRDS” or “Internal Relaxation (or Reversal) of Darwinian Selection,” or the preservation of those he deems as “unfit,” as he writes in his diatribe, which is merely an expression of a desire to return to the eugenics that were once violently imposed in the West during the 20th century. As Nyborg writes:

“The Danish tribe is threatened by IRDS, and the excellent social and health care systems worsen this by preserving still more weak, poor and old.”

Nyborg states that because of post WW2 indignation towards eugenics, Europe is currently going through its migration crises, which he describes as “low IQ” immigrants replacing Europeans:

“Why were early dysgenic warnings neglected and the messengers demonized? Because too many leading scientists, politicians and intellectuals (Nyborg, 2003; in press) ignored Darwinian principles and started a historically hitherto unheard of voluntary, humanistic, democratic and financed replacement policy, whereby dwindling genetically weakened (Lynn, Harvey, & Nyborg, 2009) sub-fertile Western European populations will rapidly be replacedby more fertile low-IQ non-European immigrants.”

If the argument is solely to combat the “migration crises” then why are these people all of a sudden attacking not the Protestant churches, but the Catholic Church, which is really the center for Western civilization and the beacon of morality that civilized Europe from pagan savagery? Richard Lynn, a colleague of both Nyborg and Vanhanen, and someone who Sigurfreyr Jonasson admires, has even gone so far as to describe the Catholic Church as an enemy of the system of natural selection, since it prohibits abortion and birth control which, to these modern-day nazis, is good to kill off the “inferior” people. In one book of Lynn he writes:

Whatever the explanation for the institutionalization of monogamy in Christendom, this was the first of the four great blows struck by the Roman Catholic Church against natural selection. The second was the requirement of clerical celibacy which Pope Innocent I imposed about the year 410 and which curtailed the fertility of the many able men and women who entered the church, although it was not always successful in eliminating it entirely. The third was the prohibition of birth control in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, which made it difficult for the less competent to control their fertility, while the competent found ways of doing so. The fourth was the prohibition of abortion, the availability of which reduces the fertility of the less competent who are more prone to unplanned and unwanted pregnancies.”    

Richard Lynn, speaking for Amren

Lynn favors abortion as a way to ‘cut down’ the number of babies born with diseases:

“To some degree this increase is being mitigated by the prenatal diagnosis and abortion of fetuses with these disorders—a form of eugenic intervention which has generally escaped the censure of the critics of eugenics, most of whom have been able to see that it is better to be born healthy than diseased.”

We have done extensive research on Spencer’s nefarious associates, from Nazis to criminals. We wondered what his priest, Fr. Thomas P. Steinmetz, thought of his work, and so we called him to inquire as to why Spencer no longer serves as a deacon in his parish, Our Lady of the Cedars. As you can see from the video, Steinmetz is both very hesitant and terrified to reveal what happened:

Robert Spencer was doing an event for Sigurfreyr Jonasson, a neo-pagan Nazi who runs the biggest drug pushing organization in Iceland, Snarrotin. Spencer can claim in ignorance, but he would still have to explain why has travelled to Sweden to speak for the Sweden Democrats, a political party founded by Nazis which actually held a meeting with a Nazi SS member; Spencer still has to explain why his organization, SIOE (Stop the Islamization of Europe) has on its board people who are anti-Christian, or who have worked with criminals and thugs. All of these facts lead us to conclude the nefariousness of Robert Spencer.

Now it is important to recognize that some people and their connections may come as a surprise, and this is only natural and should be expected, as nobody can be expected to know everything about everybody. However, certain things are obvious about people because they have chosen to associate themselves with said persons or activities. For example, at Shoebat.com we associate ourselves with criticism of Islam and homosexuality as well as Catholic militancy. It is only expected then that anybody who claims to be a regular reader or fan of Shoebat.com would likely subscribe to or at least be sympathetic to our views unless there was a clear reason to say otherwise. Truly as the saying says, “birds of a feather flock together”. Guðmundur “Sigurfreyr” Jonasson is a person who has spent from what we have seen the last 22 years- really since the earliest days of the Internet in terms of public use- aggressively promoting his views online. If that was not enough, one can read newspaper articles written by him and even his book in which he expresses his views. There is plenty of material about him by which one can get a panoramic view of his life’s work, ideas, and how they have progressed over time.

What is clear is that Sigurfreyr is a notorious occultist, pusher of extreme drug use, and promoter of eugenicist ideas with connections to National Socialists and anti-Christian pagans whose work spans over two decades across Iceland and throughout Northern Europe and even as far as parts of east Asia and the Americas. He is not simply a participant, but is regarded as a resource for these ideas and this does not appear to have changed. Now one can only go by what information one has available, and since we do not know exactly what happened in Iceland, our resources are limited. I would understand if Mr. Spencer did not know a lot about Sigurfreyr and he was a lesser-known figure in Iceland who happened to have some strange interests- this would not per se be as much of an issue. But the fact that Sigufreyr has defined himself for the last two decades by his commitment to promoting drug use across Europe and is recognized as a major purveyor of ideas regarding the occult, ethnonationalist paganism, and eugenics throughout northern Europe, one naturally has to question Mr. Spencer’s meeting with him, especially due to the fact that  Sigurfreyr’s name as well as the other participants were not mentioned at all except solely for a passing note in Icelandic media. The claims of being “poisoned” by well-known party drugs as methamphetamine (MDMA) and ecstasy only raises more concerns given Sigurfreyr’s reputation as a major promoter for the legalization of methamphetamine and ecstasy. Two questions naturally emerge from this.

First, how could Mr. Spencer have NOT known about Sigurfreyr’s reputation, since his past speaks for itself? It is possible that he did not look into his background, but if so, why would he have flown several thousand miles to speak with a group of people and with a person he knows absolutely nothing about? Even a simple search on Sigurfreyr online yields his entire history. Even if simply for the sake of his own personal security, why would he have not checked even superficially into his background? If he did do this, why would he as a public figure with a reputation to maintain and a brand (his website) to protect choose to associate with a group and a person who has the blatant public associations that he has?

Likewise, assuming that he would choose to speak with this group, would he not even mention Sigurfreyr because, even if he has infamous connections, one would at least be aware that he was speaking with a man for the sake of his cause and not because he supports his other ideas? Why keep this so hidden from public view? If the seriousness of what we have just described above is still not fully understood, just imagine if one of us at Shoebat.com was going to a meeting for a group and we said nothing about this group before and after the event. No video or audio was taken of the event in any way- not even a cheap cell phone camera video.

It was only later that somebody else found out through obscure but verifiable sources that at that meeting a David Duke was speaking. Then, several days later and without any public notification, David Duke is silently added to the board of directors for Shoebat.com. Would it not raise questions as to why we were at a meeting with David Duke and no video was available? Or how about the fact that he was added to the board of directors without any public notice? If David Duke was at that event, would we not at least say that he was there for the simple fact of transparency given his public views as well as ours? Why would everything be kept so silent? Again, one can only go by what information is available in his particular situation. However, the more questions that one asks about this evetn the more questions arise with even fewer reasonable answers to them.

What we can conclude is that Robert Spencer was doing an event for Sigurfreyr Jonasson, a neo-pagan Nazi who runs the biggest drug pushing organization in Iceland, Snarrotin. Spencer can claim in ignorance, but he would still have to explain why he has travelled to Sweden to speak for the Sweden Democrats, a political party founded by Nazis which actually held a meeting with a Nazi SS member; Spencer still has to explain why his organization, SIOE (Stop the Islamization of Europe) has on its board people who are anti-Christian, occult-practicing criminals and why such extensive measures were seemingly taken to avoid any mention of this.

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  • Thanks for showing us the entrance of the rabbit hole.

    • Kamau41

      They clearly showed how deep the rabbit hole truly is and most don’t even realize it.

    • Ephesians 5:6-14

      Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes on those who are disobedient. Therefore do not be associated with them. For once you were darkness, but now in the Lord you are light. Live as children of light- for the fruit of the light is found in all that is good and right and true. Try to find out what is pleasing to the Lord. Take no part in the unfruitful work of darkness, but instead expose them. For it is shameful even to mention what such people do secretly; but everything exposed by the light becomes visible, for everything that becomes visible is light.

      • Grandmere

        Snap

      • Kamau41

        AWESOME!!!!!!

  • DantesRivers

    The Doleful City of Woe

    The naïve have no interest in entering the nave,
    Favoring the narthex, arguing with the depraved,
    Performing biblical gymnastics, their backs to the altar door,
    While others seek out the porch, with their current armour.

    But, be careful where you go, or what you think you know,
    ‘Lest you be one who must enter, the City of Woe.
    It’s a place from which, there is never a furlough,
    Hear from Bruckman’s translation of Dante’s Inferno:

    Through me, one comes into the Doleful City;
    Through me, one finds eternal pain unchecked;
    Through me, one finds the legions lost to pity.
    Justice impelled my lofty architect;
    Crafted was I by might divine and sheer,
    By primal love and supreme intellect.
    Only eternal things were crafted ere
    My crafting, and forever I endure:
    Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.

    Dante (edited and greatly enhanced by ace.)

    • ace

      Dante quoting Dante,
      Next thing you know,
      He’ll be like Cervantes

  • Ceirwyn

    Trump has been helpful for showing how the “right” isn’t what it claims to be. The insane demon worshipers have more control over global politics than ever.

  • Shane Bass

    Thank you very much for this article. I spoke with your son a couple years back about Spencer and Geller and was awakened by him on what they were willfully or ignorantly. I haven’t read their sites in about two years maybe three. I’m also glad that you picked back up on this subject of right wing national socialists in Sunday specials exposing them even further. I would also like to say that I read this article from my phone and for some reason each time you wanted to show a video it was the same one over and over again about the building of the Pagan Temple regarding the number 9 and 432,000 sacred numbers etc. I don’t know if this is just on the phone but I plan on getting on my laptop to check from there as well. Thank you again Walid, Theodore, and Andrew. You all are truly guided by the spirit and not the flesh and it is comforting to finally be fed truth with all the vile and devilish things being promoted and pushed thru all societies world wide today.

    Also,

    Andrew, I converted to the faith about three years ago and I just wanted to say thank you for bringing to my attention Saint Maria Julia Jahenny. I’ve. Even reading that link on one of your articles about a month back and what a woman, what a Saint!

    Long Live Walid the Wise, Theodore the Bold, and Andrew the Scholarly!!!!
    Gloria Patri,
    et Filio,
    et Spiritui Sancto,
    Amen!

  • richinnameonly

    These people are intellectualizing, falsely rationalizing, and appointing themselves as vigilantes against God. Satan is leading them directly to hell and using them as executioners along the way. Why did I keep thinking of Angela Merkel as I was reading the article? Maybe Robert Spencer will show signs of contrition and move in a new direction. That would be nice.

  • Стефан Евгений

    Well, at least you the Jesuit agent, Walid…. and me the evil KGB Moscow Patriarchate agent has something right…. the schmoe who photoshopped the IHC + meant it for slander but, he revealed a Truth. The Holy Cross and the name under we are all saved is in our foreheads in in our hearts.

    Here is a small sample. all of my comments at the site have been scrubbed.

    I think the journalists at Deutsche Welle will notice that their overall theme in the video is amply justified by the comments below from the partisans of the Moscow Patriarchate.

    He accused me of hate speech as a way to shut me down.

    Oh! how the don’t like being challenged on their views they start foaming at the mouth.

    Here is an example of Catholics and Orthodox talking to each other. this happened under a deal Patriarch Kirill and Pope Francis to bring the relics of St Nicholas to Russia.

    Socalled conservative Protestants will have a hissy fit with smoke out the ears seeing the above.

    • DantesRivers

      We have a relic of this man in our parish.
      http://www.carpatho-rusyn.org/spirit/hopko.htm

      I do not claim to understand these things but I feel a strong connection to him.
      I can identify with his suffering, while confessing he suffered much more and for a higher purpose than I.

    • Thank you for the video.

      • Стефан Евгений

        Welcome brat! …….hoped you started at the beginning?
        I could not count how many deacons with censors.

        • Only problem was there was no English subtitle and I didn’t know what was said.

          What I liked, though, was how the parish reinforced how we approach Mount Zion (Hebrews 12:22), figuratively and literally. http://atrevorsjournal.blogspot.com/2017/06/coming-to-mount-zion-how-catholic-mass.html

          • Стефан Евгений

            here is a part of what HH Kirill said.
            “Today’s a happy event was yet another concrete result of our meeting with Pope Francis in Cuba , where there were discussed issues concerning bilateral relations between our Churches and the Orthodox-Catholic cooperation on the most pressing issues of today – said, welcoming the audience, His Holiness Patriarch Kirill . – The joint statement says that “in today’s world, Catholics and Orthodox are called to fraternal sorabotnichat for the proclamation of the Gospel of salvation, for the common witness of the moral dignity and genuine human freedom, the world may believe (John 17:21.)”. Undoubtedly, bringing to Russia the relics of the great saint of God, venerated both in the East and in the West, it is a prime example of our common witness to the Christian faith.

            In our difficult time in international relations, we are witnessing the escalation of conflict and confrontation, cultural and spiritual cooperation – one of the most effective means by which the Church can help overcome the enmity between peoples.”

          • Who knows it will bring the two lampstands together. In fact there is seven branches on each lampstands which means there are 14 Sees. Just pray for us Anglicans to come in communion with either one of the lampstands.

          • Стефан Евгений

            The hardest thing was соработничать there is no English word that fits. I’m stumped on this one.

          • No worries, you still provided plenty by translating Russian to English, and it’s appreciated.

          • Started to read this article and it made me think of you.

            http://m.ncregister.com/53567/b#.WT6bClYpCEc

          • Стефан Евгений

            Oh, my brother! in my heart I know that these evil forces will come for us. Many nights I pray that I shall not shame the Lord on that day.

            What happened in Russia, will happen in America.
            St lawrence of Chernigov.

            I see the merging of occult forces with the right and left an omen of dred. American Christians have gone full blown Gnostic Pagans and don’t even know it.

            Miracles happen every day in Russia. This one last month Dolphins pushed a ancient Icon of the Mother of God of the Sign to the beach in Sochi.
            http://ruskline.ru/news_rl/2017/06/10/chudo_chudnoe/

          • I agree with you. And amazing story.

          • Kamau41

            You are so right on brat. Most people in the west literally have no clue what is coming and how widespread evil really is in our day. Gnostic Paganism is virtually everywhere and is increasing like wildfire from Gov’t-our schools. This is why I cannot even fathom what this world will be like in just a few short years.

          • Owen Schumacher

            Very interesting. Has Patriarch Kirill looked into the matter?

          • Стефан Евгений

            Don’t know. but i bet he was informed.

    • CTyank

      Beautiful and amazing!

  • CreatioExNihilo

    Heard tell that the chance of a single strand of RNA arising by chance, say nothing of surviving can be proven to be less than one in the number of atoms in the known universe… At least I feel safe here from the constant attack of ambivalence.

  • PaulF

    With the greatest respect to you guys I think there is too much focus on occultism in the middle portion of this article. Even only looking at images of the occult can pollute the spirit and result in a need for deliverance ministry.
    ‘You must not bring any detestable thing into your house or you, like it, will come under the curse of destruction’ (Deuteronomy 7:26).
    My request is that you respect the need of your readers to obey this scripture by not bringing any detestable thing into their homes. Please don’t force us to switch off this site!

    • Tom_mcewen

      So much for free speech, SS Oberstrumbannfurhrer. I am over 21 and can make up my own mind, Thank you very much.

      • PaulF

        Old enough to decide whether you accept the word of God or reject it. Suggest you read through Deuteronomy and see if you still think it’s safe to fill your mind with images of poisonous religion.

        • “If the word of God says that hanging around the occult will place you under the curse of destruction”

          Investigating and exposing the occult is NOT hanging around the occult Paulf. Stop twisting the situation.

          • Jeff Benton

            This fella is declaring that Jesus Christ cannot use him in dangerous places or circumstances, and cannot be sent to the thieves, prostitutes, and pagans, many of whom are into much worse stuff than shown here, to show them the way of life as opposed to their current path that leads to death…

            In my past experience when God chose to actively use me as an instrument of his peace, I was sometimes sent into the heart of darkness… About 90% of those particular times there was someone there asking serious questions about God and how to live…

            I failed miserably in a few of those situations and I sometimes wonder if that is why the desert is upon me now…

            If PaulF is truly following God, in time he will see that it is not the well that need a doctor… it is the sick…

            Wouldn’t worry bout him too much…

        • Kamau41

          Both the Holy Scriptures and Tradition does indeed allow Christians to expose and warn about evil.
          Ezekiel 3:18-19 clearly says, “If, when I say to the wicked, Thou shalt surely die: thou declare it not to him, nor speak to him, that he may be converted from his wicked way, and live: the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but I will require his blood at thy hand. But if thou give warning to the wicked, and he be not converted from his wickedness, and from his evil way: he indeed shall die in his iniquity, but thou hast delivered thy soul.”
          Moreover, here are the words from St. Pope Felix III:
          “Not to oppose error is to approve it; and not to defend truth is to suppress it; and indeed to neglect to confound evil men, when we can do it, is no less a sin than to encourage them.”

        • Tom_mcewen

          It is like the Protestant belief in witch’s and witchcraft and images of the occult. God commanded Moses to place two golden angels on the ark, it is not a sin unless there worshipped. The Israelites made a golden calf and worshipped it. That is the sin not the golden calf. We don’t have a witch finder general, we don’t burn old women young women and a pig and a rooster here and there. The symbols you obsess over are made of ink and paper. From the microscope they are particles of chemical and wood fiber. From the orbit of pluto they can’t even be seen. It is your mind alone that gives them power of you soul, NOT MINE. The church put a bull in the seventh century on witches and witchcraft and said, look first of who gains in the report of witchcraft. I don’t believe in the occult and magic symbols Protestants do I believe in God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit and the churches authority to cast out demons. Protestants have no authority so they should fear demons, liars and stories like Pope Francis kills and eats newborn child in secret rite to enter the ninth circle to become pope

    • “You must not bring any detestable thing into your house”

      Christians can investigate and expose evil and show the evidence as proof. The verse you provided says “You must not bring any detestable thing into your house”.

      No one here is bringing witch objects and idols into their homes for worship Paul so your claim is incorrect and you are stretching a verse asking us to ‘obey the scripture’ when all you are doing is asking us to obey you.

      “My request is that you respect the need of your readers to obey this scripture by not bringing any detestable thing into their homes.”

      Alright then, have the “readers” agree with your interpretation and I will remove it. It seems that you are the only complainer so far.

      “Please don’t force us to switch off this site!”

      You are welcome to switch out anytime you like Paul. Wish you can convince 30,000 others and this way I retire. Can you help?

      With blessings. Walid.

  • Darren Neufeldt

    Thank you for giving more to digest and think about, and what to look for when looking at websites and the people that run them.

  • Kamau41

    “And it all comes down to this: Your favorite ‘conservative rightwing’ media, activists, political movements have sold the farm! Not only that, they have partnered with the eugenics movement and view you as little more than a farm animal who they are fattening for slaughter.”
    This is the most chilling, absolutely unrefutable bombshell, very detailed analysis report on how far and deeply widespread n*zism/paganism truly is here in the west. The video clips, music, social media, photos and all of the quotes reveals the most compelling evidence yet of how closely tied Robert Spencer and Pamela Gellar are to such dangerous anti-Christian organizations/individuals.
    What was a real eye opener was the very wide exposure of Sigurfreyr Jonasson, Daniel Friberg and many of his very dangerous associates, along with his very deep connections to the whole counter-jihad movement. What is even much more chilling is their deep involvement with Icelandic Civil Liberties Union (ICLU) and David Nutt and his big push for drugs and assisted suicide. Furthermore, the evidence is so overwhelmingly clear that the ‘conservative’ alt-right wing groups is very well connected to
    the whole Eugenics-Social Darwinism ideology movement that is being pushed and propagandized. These are are unrefutable facts that has been very carefully layed out in this research.
    This here clearly sums it all up:
    “The reason why these people are promoting paganism is not because they want to ‘return people to their roots.’ That is all an illusion and a scheme. The real reason is because they are of the spirit of antichrist and want to replace Christianity with their diabolical religion.” Indeed!!!!!
    Excellent research across the board.
    Thank you brother Walid, Theodore and Andrew for this very timely, crucial comprehensive study to help us see what is really happening around us in our days. May God’s hand, along with His Saints, protect, guard and keep you all as truth continues to be revealed and by His grace, we pray that the eyes and ears of many will become opened.

    Also, very much looking forward to the upcoming series of Sunday Specials exposing much more.

    • “Excellent research across the board”

      Thank Solomon 41. Wisdom 2 opened my eyes and the Seven Missing Books enlightened my heart. If Wisdom 2 is to be fulfilled, it must come from the ones who abandoned the covenant. Start at 7:00 and listen for few seconds:

      The Old Testament is a violent and repugnant according to this guy.

      • Kamau41

        Absolutely….We definitely have Solomon to thank. It’s tragic and downright evil that Martin Luther striped out the 7 books from God’s Holy Word. I did listen to the link and for Spencer to say that is beyond delusional.

        Last night, my family and I watched the Schindler’s List. After reading this article and watching the very sobering/heart wrenching movie, it all reveals the stark reality of what we are facing in the future. Oscar Schindler, on the other hand, turned out to be the amazing Good(very righteous)Samaritan as you already well know. I’m posting a link about the brief history of this man’s life and what he did in protecting/rescuing over 1200 Jews.
        http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/oskar-schindler

  • ace

    Evil! Evil! Evil! Perverse sexuality, drugs, music, demonic rituals, paganism, racist nationalism, and eugenics at both ends of the life span. And, people giving their time, money, and energies to these things. Everyday, and at all times, we need to be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might, putting on the whole amour of God, so as to be able to stand firm against the wiles of the devil, and the pervasiveness of evil, including the marketing of evil as if it were good. We know that the foolishness of God is wiser than men and the weakness of God is stronger than men. And, therefore, we should, hold fast our faith and persevere despite present and coming suffering and persecution. The mess this old world is in didn’t happen overnight. Under the veneer of conservative respectability, malignant wickedness has metastasized and now, accelerating, quickly seeks to subdue and dominate.

  • Jeff Benton

    5 minutes of any TV show, including whatever your favorite brand of (claimed) conservative or liberal propaganda outlet is, whether it is FOX or CNN types, will be enough for any one who is streetwise to understand ALL of this without even knowing ANY of these details…

    You can go on to any social media outlet and see all of this clearly without ever knowing of any meetings between anyone…

    You can listen to almost any American Politician for less than 5 minutes and see how wicked they really are… It is in your face if you have ANY street sense at all…

    The very results of politicians enacted laws are enough to see all of this clearly without even knowing of all the backroom dealings going on, or hearing one single lie spewed forth from any of the above mentioned peeps or places…

    Less than 5 minutes talking to ANYONE who is just “working for a living and living the best they can” is enough to know why and how all of this has come about…

    The only baffling thing here to some folks is this… Why cant folks see it…
    I can see it… And I aint too dang bright…

    It is because they dont WANT to see it… Thats why…
    They are quite comfy in Egypt…
    They do not want to come out of slavery and bondage…
    It’s as simple as that…
    And they will be and are the very peeps that try their best to kill you and I so they can continue on in their comfy Egyptian bondage… Your neighbors, your friends, your family…

    Peeps better wake up…

    I am so thankful for God keeping me safe and alive through my foolish years… Nothing like riding a MARTA train after dark with nefarious peeps doin nefarious stuff to prep you for the coming darkness… Bullet holes and budweisers everywhere… Armed to the teeth and ready to get jumped any minute…
    Yeppers… What an awesome prep job God laid up for me in my youth 🙂 🙂 🙂
    Only God can turn foolishness into pure gold…
    Just sayin…

    I wonder how many on their self righteous never done wrong high horses will fall…
    And such a large distance to fall too…
    Next time ya say the Lords Prayer, or the 23rd Psalm, or the Hail
    Mary, I would suggest you really really try to fathom what the words and sentences
    actually mean…

    No matter…
    In The End We Will Win… The Sons of God Will Win…
    🙂 🙂 🙂

    • Grandmere

      Five Snaps up in a circle! Best comment so far, brother.

    • richinnameonly

      Where have you been? Never mind. I can never keep up with all the details (names, places, dates, etc.) that are the trees that make up the forest of today’s world environment. But the forest is obviously creepy, has a rotten odor, and is trying to consume us. It’s a blessing to see it for what it is, while we do our best to follow our leader.

    • Kamau41

      Excellent comment all around, Jeff.

      • Jeff Benton

        Thanks all of you, yet look to the Lord, not to ol Jeff…
        ( I know you all do, but you know this had to be said and why it had to be said )
        Every good thing I have is from Jesus Christ…

        Many is the time that I just curl up in a ball saying the Lords Prayer and other prayers till the peace of Jesus Christ is at home in me again…
        It’s good to be persecuted… Lets you know just how valuable you are to God…
        That ol rod is just as comforting as the staff…

    • Taurnil Oronar

      I wonder how many on their self righteous never done wrong high horses will fall…

      All of them.

      • Jeff Benton

        I almost wrote that answer in myself underneath “And such a large distance to fall too…” Decided to wait and see if someone else would…
        You are correct…
        Every single one of em…
        Thanks for getting it 🙂 🙂 🙂

  • We should always strive to not focus on one evil because evil wears many mask. Islam is one. Eugenics is another. Abortion is another.

    Anything, anyone, and all form of doctrine that stands oppose to moral and teachings of the Church are to be opposed, even if they come from crooked bishops.

  • Taurnil Oronar

    Never realized Iceland was such a hotbed for that kind of stuff.

    • Indian Christian Crusader

      It seems to be a very cold and dull looking place geographically from what I have seen in pictures or youtube videos. Lack of sunshine?

      • Taurnil Oronar

        I don’t think geography is a factor, an excuse perhaps as in it’s always something, someone else’s fault besides our own yet we/they would allow that to influence our free will God gave us..

  • FlyingDutchman

    Watching quite a few videos of spencer and quite enjoy his talks. Especially the work he does with david wood i am quite disappointed to read this. I do hope he himself reads this and hopefully he can come with a decent explanation. As walid did when CNN wrote a hitpiece on him. If this is true and if he reads this and it all is true and he has no excuse i hope he changes his mind and renounces the co-operation. I think one of the reasons counter jihadis connect with dubious people is the fact that they are one trick ponies. So they find connections with people focussing on the shared interest in this case stopping islam ignoring other things these guys stand for. The same can be said for their (part) endorsements of the likes of geert wilders marine le pen or activists like tommy robinson. If you just go by youtube they mainly speak sense nut as shoebat.com has pointed out in numerous articles some of their other sides are really dark

  • Neo didn’t like the truth at first but in the end, he embraced it fully and was willing to die for it.

  • AnthonyM

    Disturbing report, but evidence of satan’s influence in the other groups. Where ever there is an absence of Christ, satan fills the void.

  • Стефан Евгений

    DaKardii, I’ve been called lots of names by losers like these schmoes. I even been told I need a bullet. The internet brings out the worst in man.

  • Indian Christian Crusader

    I don’t understand this obsession Satanists have with goat or heads of goats. The goat is just a poor small animal.

  • ace

    …Meanwhile, the real Jesuit bad guy, the only boss of Pope Francis, the new “Black Pope”, Arturo Sosa Abascal, a Venezuelan, elected 30th Superior General of the Jesuits in October 2016, who has been a professor of Political Science in U.S. and Venezuelan Universities, had this to say when asked (El Mundo interview-Spanish): http://www.elmundo.es/papel/lideres/2017/05/31/592d806d268e3e1a7c8b476c.html

    Question: I wanted to ask you if you believe that evil is a process of human psychology or comes from a higher entity.

    Answer: From my point of view, evil is part of the mystery of freedom. If the human being is free, he can choose between good and evil. We Christians believe that we are made in the image and likeness of God, accordingly, God is free, but God always chooses to do good because he is all goodness. We have made symbolic figures, like the devil, to express evil. Social conditioning also represents this figure, given that there are people who act this way because they are in an environment where it is very difficult to do the opposite.

    And now, http://www.kath.net/news/59879 a spokesman for the Jesuits argues that these statements were taken out of context [but, I translated from and linked the question and answer from the Spanish interview above]. Asked if Father Sosa believed in the existence of the devil, the speaker said. “Father Arturo Sosa believes and teaches everything the Church believes and teaches.”

  • Julie LaBrecque

    Thanks for alerting us to the multiple threats that are slowly creeping onto the horizon. Though not as ‘sensational’ as the obvious threats of Islam, these threats flying beneath the radar will soon sprout wings and lodge themselves in high places while the world has all the radars focused on ISIS.
    St. Paul did say to workout our salvation with fear and trembling….And Jesus did tell us the be as wise as serpents…. It seems the serpents have been let loose. Better keep your Rosaries near and dear.

    • Kamau41

      “Better keep your Rosaries near and dear.” Yes indeed!!

  • Sir,

    Try QUOTING an error in the article instead of asking questions like: “how is Spencer involved in devil worship himself?”

    Can you QUOTE to us where we said this? No. You can’t.

    So in reality you are accusing us of quotes we never made.

    As far as associates, they do count if one continues to associate with them. This has been shown to you in an older link where the man still has criminals and Nazis on SIOE.

    “Just like you, Spencer is risking his life by telling the truth. Why are you trying to take him down when he is one of the leading voices against Jihad? Especially when there are so few?”

    This is not true. He attacked us first to defend the pro-Homosexual Pamela Geller:

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/09/robert-spencer-in-frontpage-theodore-shoebat-joins-the-jihad-says-pamela-geller-is-worthy-of-death

    And he accused us of “joining the Jihad” which means he slandered us of bing ‘closet Muslim’.

  • Thank you for putting a comment that actually pertains to the subject of the article. This is a great piece of information because it reveals that Tatu’s eugenics is part of governmental networks.

    –Theodore Shoebat

  • ace

    Where does EDL (English Defense League) fit into the picture? http://wideshut.co.uk/edl-officially-announce-ties-to-zionist-state-of-israel/

    Sigurfreyr http://sigurfreyr.is/series/fjolmenning/ advertises Tommy Robinson’s book.

  • Kelly Ann

    Awsome article!

    According to church teachings, on the ends of time, Because it takes much longer to purify souls in purgatory than while living in the flesh. The great tribulation is necessary because the time of purgatory(church suffering) will expire as we get closer to the second coming, purgatory will be emptied and it’s doors closed for all eternity. Our Lords Passion in the flesh Is Gods example to live n die by more so in this period for the sole purpose of purifying. Salvation will be The only concern for Christians who bear it, more so for the benefit of others than themselves. Prayer in suffering must greatly please Gods justice.

    The antichrist will be very creative in methods of torture He will will keep Christians alive just to watch them greatly suffer. God will allow this for the purpose of purifying more chosen souls to recieve the beautification upon the moment of death instead of moving them into purgatory.

    The great tribulation will be the signal to us that the church is nearly filled. Quite a time to live knowing that if you greatly suffer n give your life for the love of the crucified Christ you will very soon go to eternal heaven.

    • ace

      Great comment! Could you point me to some writings or quotes on the tribulation being in part necessary because purgatory is coming to an end? It makes a lot of sense, but I’d like to know more specifics. Thanks.

      • Kelly Ann

        I just go through church documents, encyclicals , n saints n doctors writings, n listen to faithful priest the few we still have. Sorry I didn’t book mark it, as that’s something that I won’t forget. But If I come across it again on line, I’ll post you a link.

        • ace

          Thanks. I’ve been searching too and asking some people. Nothing so far.

        • ace

          (2nd Reply) OK, this is the best I can track down – The citation is Summa, Suppl. 74,8, ad 5: http://www.newadvent.org/summa/5074.htm#article8

          Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologiae, Supplement to the Tertia Partis(or Third Part), (St. Thomas never completed his treatise on Penance. The remainder of the Summa Theologiae, known as the Supplement, was compiled probably by his companion and friend Fra Rainaldo da Piperno, and was gathered from St. Thomas’s commentary on the Fourth Book of the Sentences of Peter Lombard); Section on the Resurrection (The world’s final conflagration (74) which will precede the Second Coming); Article 8. Whether that fire will have such an effect on men as is described?; Reply to Objection 5:

          “There are three reasons why those who will be found living will be able to be cleansed suddenly. One is because there will be few things in them to be cleansed, since they will be already cleansed by the previous fears and persecutions. The second is because they will suffer pain both while living and of their own will: and pain suffered in this life voluntarily cleanses much more than pain inflicted after death, as in the case of the martyrs, because ‘if anything needing to be cleansed be found in them, it is cut off by the sickle of suffering,’ as Augustine says (De Unic. Bap. xiii), although the pain of martyrdom is of short duration in comparison with the pain endured in purgatory. The third is because the heat will gain in intensity what it loses in shortness of time.”

          Also, a longer essay including the piece just cited from the Supplement to the Summa is included in The Rosary Light & Life – Vol 49, No 6, Nov.-Dec. 1996 “THE LAST DAY AND THE GENERAL JUDGMEMT” by the Dominican Father Paul A. Duffner, O.P., where he adds this:http://www.rosary-center.org/ll49n6.htm

          “…We must remember that when the world comes to an end, so will purgatory. All those in purgatory until that final hour will have completed their purification and satisfied their debt of punishment. One might ask a hypothetical question: what if one dies very shortly before the end of the world in the state of grace, but with a considerable debt of temporal punishment and attachment to creatures. Is that debt paid and the purification accomplished in so short a time? St. Thomas asks the same question with regard to those who are still living at the end of the world, and the answer he gives covers both situations. As we stated, he holds that all those still living the last day will be consumed in that fire…”

  • Jason,

    You wrote:

    “Aren’t the two candlesticks and two olive trees Moses and Elijah?”

    Then you wrote:

    “Now the exact identity of the witnesses we don’t know for sure.”

    So your first statement insinuates Moses and Elijah are the two lampstands and then your second statement says we do not even know who the two lampstands are.

    “And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.”

    But the text tells you that the two witnesses are two lampstands not individuals for if a lamp stand is an individual then the SEVEN lampstands are seven individuals.

    While the traditional theory of two witnesses being individuals is plausible but what is also plausible is that we have two individuals leading two branches as well.

    Interpreters do allow for lychnia (greek for lamp stand) to reinterpreted both ways:

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G3087&t=KJV

    “Behold, I am going to send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the Lord.”

    Your missing another witness. And you think Elijah is coming for the Baptists?

    “that is cross referenced in Zech. 4:11-14. The Catholic and Orthodox Church were non-existent during Zechariah’s time.”

    You ar ignoring typology and multiple fulfillments. We are dealing with prophecy here. Catholic Biblical Association’s Commentary (Page 668-669) says:

    “11, 4-14: The Two Witnesses. The symbolism of this section is in general sufficiently evident with the exception, perhaps, of the two witnesses. Some have thought them to be Elias [Elijah] and Henoch [Enoch]; others Elias [Elijah] and Moses; others Josue [Joshua] and Zorobabel [Zerubbabel]. They have many of the characteristics of all the great prophets of Israel. But from the allusion in 4 to Josue, son of Josedec, and Zorobabel, John seems to imply that the two witnesses are the representatives of the civil and religious power among the children of God. Cf. Zach. 3, 4”

    Representatives of religious power not just two individuals who lead. Sure you could have Moses and Elijah but you also have olive trees/lampstands which definitely represent churches. Who are these two witnesses leading?

    “I do have an issue with a statement made in the article, mostly about the Catholic Church.”

    Well there’s your problem. But why not point out the Orthodox Church?

    Have you crossed the Tiber yet?

  • Tired of dealing with complaints and nonsense.

    • PaulF

      OK. I’ll try to avoid commenting in future. It’s your site after all. I just hope conscientious dissent is not taken for hostility.

      • In the Middle East we have a saying “you either shoot him or break his skull”.

        The saying came from the type of solutions that certain people only have one choice. With you its either “avoid commenting” or “stop commenting”. Both are the same thing.

        There is no in between. Perhaps the right choice would be “ignore our argument” and comment when you please and comment not when you please.

        Be balanced. Not everything you see or read you will approve of. Nothing I read or see also do I approve of.

        But be reasonable. You know well I posted these images as PROOF. I meant nothing of what you claimed. I am not posting porn. Yet you use “porn” as an example to make a claim.

        I get a ton of comments with suggestions and complaints. Do you think I have the manpower to deal with it all?

        Once we switch places you would understand one thing: you are not in the other person’s shoes. This is why I am Shoebat for few understand the shoes I wear and the bat I must carry 😉

        Take it easy brother Paulf and have some leeway and cut us some slack.

        I mean please … pretty pretty please …

        If you watch something on Fox News that you do not approve of and you write Bill O’Reilly does he even respond to you? No.

        But the ones who do not respond to you trust me you give them less headaches and the ones who do respond to you, you give them all the headaches. Why?

        Its like that food truck I once owned, jumbo burgers with fried and soda for $2.99. Can you imagine at such a low price I still had folks try to haggle with me to knock the price down because they simply do not have enough money. I ask them, do you do this at McDonalds? They said ‘of course not’. “Why I asked” and they said “its McDonalds man. There is no haggling there”.

        Yet the small man they haggle with while the powerful they respect and leave alone.

        • PaulF

          Wouldn’t mind being a customer for one of those jumbo burgers with fries and soda, and I definitely wouldn’t try to bargain down from $2.99. Those customers know that in McD’s they are dealing with frontline staff with no power to haggle. I hope you didn’t drop the price!
          I can see what you are doing. Expose the right wingers for secret demonists where that is what they are. It’s the build up of detail that could be fascinating to … anyway, we’ve had the argument.
          Thanks a lot again, and for all the important information on the site which the elite media keeps hidden from us.

          • Your burger with extra dressing and shoestring fries and root beer coming right up. Its on the house.

          • PaulF

            Can’t wait. Thank you!

          • PaulF

            ‘Masonic presidents are the best presidents in the world.’
            I hope that’s a joke, but as you include it on a list with 11 other items which are not jokes, please let me offer a rejoinder: Walid, don’t touch freemasonry with a forty foot barge pole. Don’t even pretend to praise it. It is spiritual arsenic of the most potent kind. Masonic entanglement has brought curses into families that have not lifted even after centuries. It can look benign, I lived alongside it through all my London years, but looks can be deceptive.
            End of rejoinder. Sorry for the delayed reaction. The subject got lost in the earlier crossfire.

  • Jason,

    I hope you understand I do not allow many links. I want you to formulate your own view on your own by studying the Bible. No offense but I have little time to examine links and youtube videos. I have tons of comments and humanly speaking its impossible to do.

    So formulate arguments. Your last argument was excellent and this is why it was the only argument I addressed.

    • Jason “Jas0nK1611” Kunst

      Fair enough, I just shared the video and link because I just saw it. And so maybe you’d remember speaking at our church.

      Thank you for the compliment and for the challenge. It has been very helpful debating with you. It has driven me to further study.

      Thanks again Walid

  • John,

    You are more than welcome to come on at Shoebat.com and make your case and we can respectfully dialogue these issues. Thank you for admitting to speaking for Amren but the first question we would ask is “did you not know what Amren is all about”?

    We would like to dialogue the issues in an interview rather than a comment box. This way people can decide for themselves whether your case or our case stands.

    The question is, are you ready for a dialogue?

  • I will check out the video shortly after I contemplate your dialogue and take it at heart.

  • “The Bible has one interpreter and that is God,”

    And where do we find such an interpretation written by God?

    Show me where so I can read it.

  • “It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.”

    Yes but this verse does not say that God interprets the Bible. It says that man lives by the word go God.

    “Man has to have the words of God to understand them and live by them.”

    Same issue as above.

    “For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
    [20] Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
    [21] For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
    [26] For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called : [27] But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty”

    This does not say that God interprets the Bible.

    “the world by wisdom knew not God”
    “not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble are called:”

    This means that most do not understand the word of God and that few have such knowledge.

    “Knowledge of the original languages and textual criticism glorifies the flesh and takes the glory away from God and exalts man. The world glories in education as the Pharisees did,but they marvelled at the disciples”

    I see no verses that speak against knowledge and in fact Christ warned that “my people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge.

    “God used men without any education but they understood the scriptures and the educated elite did not.”

    Solomon was “elite” and he understood the word of God. I see nothing in the Bible condemning the elite.

    “So what are the ingredients to understanding the words of God?”

    Isn’t this the question I asked?

    “Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
    See that, he teaches knowledge to babes”

    It is the ones who know meat not milk. But who decides this? Me? You? No. It is decided by authority.

    You do not comprehend authority.

    “You let go of your preconceived ideas and opened yourself up. Then prayed to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And when you did that God started to reveal himself to you. The same applies in understanding a passage. You humble yourself before the God of heaven with no preconceived ideas and open yourself up to his words.”

    Indeed. God let me know what I asked, but He also let me understand obedience to authority. To be humble is to obey and to obey is to obey whom God appointed: the Church.

    Scripture also says the “This is the church of the living God, which is the pillar and foundation of the truth” (1 Timothy 3:15).

    How could you forget to post the most important verse in scripture about understanding scripture and truth?

    To you the church is whomever claims to be Christian. To me the Church is what the Church decides who is and who is not Christian, who is and who is not interpreter.

    Are you better than St. Bellarmine? Are you a better interpreter than St. Polycarp the disciple of John the Apostle? How about St. Ignatius?

    “For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:”

    We have thousands who claim to do exactly that and the thousand disagree with each other.

    “Precept upon precept…line upon line” what does that mean? When you read a single passage and don’t know what it means, you go to another passage or passages of the same topic and it will give clearer understanding.”

    The first Christians followed this and concluded that Mary never had sex with Joseph. You read that and concluded that Mary did have sex with Joseph.

    Which of the two is correct?

    “John Wycliffe said …”

    Aha. You finally chose an authority: Wycliffe. No matter what you say, no matter what you write you will choose an authority.

    But John Wycliffe was a heretic.

    Wycliffe limited God by asserting that He could not annihilate anything, and that He could only create a limited number of souls and not go beyond that number:

    “God cannot annihilate anything, nor increase or diminish the world, but he can create souls up to a certain number, and not beyond it.” (1)

    The war on marriage has been going on for centuries. It can be traced all the way to John Wycliff who said that those who copulated with others for material gain or to simply gratify their sexual desires, were having intercourse as actual married people:

    “People of former times would copulate with each other out of desire for temporal gain or for mutual help or to relieve concupiscence, even when they had no hope of offspring; for they were truly copulating as married persons.” (2)

    Wycliffe as one of its pioneers. Wycliffe did not follow God, but the serpent in the garden, for he said:

    “Every person is God. Every creature is God. Every being is everywhere, since every being is God.” (3)

    He also affirmed that no one is under the obligation not to commit mortal sin, since the action was predestined and thus out of the person’s control; moreover, the person is also led by the Holy Spirit to commit mortal sin, and by extension, that person was chosen by God before his birth to be damned to hell:

    “A baptised child foreknown as damned will necessarily live long enough to sin in the holy Spirit, wherefore it will merit to be condemned for ever. Thus no fire can burn the child until that time or instant. I assert as a matter of faith that everything that will happen, will happen of necessity. Thus if Paul is foreknown as damned, he cannot truly repent; that is, he cannot cancel the sin of final impenitence by contrition, or be under the obligation not to have the sin.” (4)

    Like the social gospel heretics of today, Wycliffe taught that church leaders should not own any property,

    “It is against sacred scripture for ecclesiastics to have possessions.” (5)

    He believed that the people should have the right to steal money from a parish if their priest ever sinned:

    “The tithes are pure alms and parishioners can take these away at will because of the sins of their prelates.” (6)

    His extreme hatred against monasticism was so severe that Wycliffe exclaimed that whoever:

    “gives alms to friars is thereby excommunicated. … Saints who have founded religious orders have sinned in so doing. Members of religious orders are not members of the Christian religion. …All religious orders alike were introduced by the devil.” (7)

    This hatred of the monastics as greedy and deceptive, was also shared by Muhammad when he called for violence against Catholic monks, and the Christians who followed them; and he saw the Christians giving more adoration toward their monks and priests than to God and Christ:

    “Fight against them who believe not in God, nor in the last day, and forbid not that which God and his apostle have forgotten, and profess not the true religion, of those unto whom the scriptures have been delivered, until they pay tribute by right of subjection, and they be reduced low. The Jews say, Ezra is the son of God: and the Christians say, Christ is the son of God. This is their saying in their mouths: they imitate the saying of those who were unbelievers in former times. May God resist them. How are they infatuated! They take their priests and their monks for their lords, besides God, and Christ the son of Mary; although they are commanded to worship one God only: there is no God but he; far be that from him, which they associate with him! They seek to extinguish the light of God with their mouths; but God willeth no other than to perfect his light, although the idolaters be adverse thereto. O true believers, verily many of the priests and monks devour the substance of men in vanity, and obstruct the way of God.” (Surah 9)

    What is interesting to point out, is that Surah 9 (the passage just quoted), is used so frequently by people who want to expose Islam as violent, but what non of them ever mention, is that Surah 9 is an attack against the Catholic priesthood, and calling for open violence against it.

    Protestants like you who admire Wycliffe, and who at the same time reference Augustine, should have a difficult time in doing so, since Wycliffe declared Augustine to be a damned heretics simply for the reason that he owned property and was a monastic:

    “Augustine, Benedict and Bernard are damned, unless they repented of having owned property and of having founded and entered religious orders; and thus they are all heretics from the pope down to the lowest religious.” (8)

    And like the socialists of Russia and Mexico, Wycliffe wrote in the university of Oxford, a thousand page treatise calling for the confiscation of church property. He believed in state persecution against Catholic parishes, in that the government should have the power to, at will, confiscate the property of the Church. He even went so far as to say that a governor who does not seize the property of the Church will be burn in eternal hellfire:

    “The lord pope and bishops and all religious or simple clerics, with titles to perpetual possession, ought to renounce them into the hands of the secular arm. If they stubbornly refuse, they ought to be compelled to do so by the secular lords. There is no greater heretic or antichrist than the cleric who teaches that it is lawful for priests and Levites of the law of grace to be endowed with temporal possessions. The clerics who teach this are heretics or blasphemers if ever there were any. Temporal lords not only can take away goods of fortune from a church that is habitually sinning, nor is it only lawful for them to do so, but indeed they are obliged to do so under pain of eternal damnation.” (9)

    I am sure all of the people who are against “big government” would have a huge problem with this.

    He insisted that the state should seize the property of the Church if the prelates are living in habitual sin. Such is the language of tyrants; for the state, greedy for the people’s money, could easily accuse any priest or bishop of sin as a pretext to stealing his possessions.

    Wycliffe’s insistence on the state confiscating church property is reminiscent to what the violent rebels of the French Revolution subscribed to, and when they unleashed their infamous Reign of Terror on France, this is exactly what they did, and they did not hesitate to use seemingly moral reasons in their rapine. They saw the Church as greedy and a tyrannical, and they expressed such sentiments when they massacred Catholics for protecting their priests. His teachings would eventually lead to the sort of violence witnessed in 18th century France.

    In 1381 a mob, influenced by Wycliffe and led by Wat Tyler, marched to London where they seized Simon of Sudbury, archbishop of Canterbury, dragged him out of his chapel and like Muslims decapitated him. King Richard II with two hundred guards confronted Tyler. The criminal spat at the king’s feet, and in accordance with Wyclif’s teachings, demanded that the state confiscate all church lands and proscribe all dioceses but one. He resisted arrest, then one of the king’s men slew him with a sword and that ended the revolt.

    In 1382, Nicholas Hereford, a disciple of Wycliffe and a partner in the Wyclif Bible, preached a sermon in 1382 at St. Fridewide’s Church in Oxford declaring that Simon of Sudbury was “justly slain” by the mob. (10)

    He believed this because Simon dared to question ‘the infallible Wycliffe,’ as we are told by the historian, Anthony A. Wood:

    “Nicholas Hereford, master of divinity, did favour Wycliffe in all things, and said openly that Simon Sudbury, Archbishop of Canterbury, was justly killed, because he would have rebuked Wycliffe, and said also that there could be found no falsity in any of his doctrines.” (11)

    Heresies remain in the hearts of the people for generations, but the teachings of the Church Fathers are forgotten like pedals dissipate through the transient winds.

    (1) The Council of Constance, session 15, 49

    (2a) Council of Constance, session 15, 15

    (2) The Council of Constance, session 15, 16

    (3) The Council of Constance, session 15, 53-55

    (4) The Council of Constance, session 15, 57-58

    (5) Council of Constance, session 8, 10

    (6) Council of Constance, session 8, 18

    (7) Council of Constance, session 8, 20, 22-23, 45, ellipses mine

    (8) Council of Constance, session 8, 44

    (9) The Council of Constance, session 15, 41-43. See also The Council of Constance, in Edward Peters, Heresy and Authority in Medieval Europe, ch. x, pp. 275

    (10) Carroll, A History of Christendom, vol. iii, ch. xi, pp. 440-441

    (11) Anthony A. Wood, The History and Antiquities of the University of Oxford, b. 1, Dom. 1382

    “on understanding the scripture, “The Christian should speak the words of Scripture under the authority of Scripture, and according to that form which Scripture itself illustrates…[U]se the words of scripture in prayers…and in the preaching and explication of Scripture” (Gail Riplinger,In Awe of Thy Word,770) You must compare scripture with scripture to get the true interpretation.”

    Yes but you interpret scripture with scripture and your interpretations are only what came after Jan Huss and John Calvin. Andreas von Carlstadt, Wolfgang Fabricius Capito. Martin Chemnitz, Martin Luther and Wycliffe. These are all evil men. Heretics.

    Please consider this Jason, I will be praying for you.

  • Jason,

    If you want to continue a healthy dialogue I suggest you do exactly what I did and show EACH line I wrote and refute each line just as I did.

    You can’t bring up Wycliffe and when I expose the man you simply ignore it to move on with haphazard written claims like your response to my statement when I stated:

    “I see no verses that speak against knowledge and in fact Christ warned that “my people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge”

    And then you responded with some nonsense:

    “What about the tree of KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL. Genesis 2:17 KJV”

    I can’t work with such nonsense. the knowledge of good when mixed with evil brings death. This is not an excuse to attack knowledge.

    A says: “I drink sweet punch”

    B says: “punch is bad”

    A asks: “why is punch bad?”

    B says: “because once someone mixed it with cyanid”

    If I am Mr. A I would stop the dialogue because Mr. B is “out to lunch”.

    Finish your lunch and get back to me when you respond about Wycliffe, your hero.

    This is why you are in a cult no matter how Christian you think you are because its obvious you are writing some mixed up ideas and fail to interpret key verses in scripture.

    The rest of your analysis about the beast is good but unrelated and I wish you knew what is wrong with your analogy were it counts the most.

    Again, the CHURCH is the bulwark of truth and not SCRIPTURE for you cannot have one without the other and you cannot separate the two but it is the CHURCH that interprets scripture and I had asked you about Policarp and you ignored even him.

    Therefore, you either redo your response or we are done my friend, no offense.

  • I didn’t block you. You just assume that we should never take time off and just sit here all day long waiting for a comment from you.

  • Jason,

    No problem.

    I hope you understand due to time keep it kiss since I do not remember the many comments I get. I think I was awaiting your response to my Wycliffe references.

    • Jason “Jas0nK1611” Kunst

      Thank you,

      Alright where was I? Oh yes we were talking about authority and Interpreting scripture. We should talk about authority because that is the heart of the issue and it will come around to that anyways.
      (Trying to follow the KISS method)
      You said, “Again, the CHURCH is the bulwark of truth and not SCRIPTURE for you cannot have one without the other and you cannot separate the two but it is the CHURCH that interprets scripture”. I have 2 questions, when did God start the church, and if the chuch(Catholic) and the scripture contradict which one is right?

      • “when did God start the church”

        It started in the New Testament and continued carrying out the interpretations from the disciples through the fathers many of whom knew the disciples and these carried the unbroken teachings and interpretations which survive today.

        You however came to denounce the interpretations given to us by the fathers and attempted to give us Wycliffe which I refuted unable to answer a simple question: show me any Christian who interpreted the Bible as you do from the time of the fathers till the sixteenth century?

        ” and if the chuch(Catholic) and the scripture contradict which one is right?”

        Bad question. The question assumes that your interpretations are right.

        The question should be if your interpretations and the interpretations of the church from 100 AD to 1400 AD contradict yours which one is right? You can’t answer this question and you won’t.

        As I stated, please do not waste my time:

        “Finish your lunch and get back to me when you respond about Wycliffe, your hero.”

        One more attempt at you trying to change the subject and we’re done. I will not waste time spinning.

  • Waiting for your refutation of my Wycliffe references. You promised to deliver. You didn’t. You kept changing subjects. Will not do.

    Good day.

  • “YOU ARE PROBABLY RIGHT ABOUT HIM. What else do you want?”

    So you are publicly and unequivocally stating that your Wycliffe who you initially brought up is a HERETIC?

  • “it doesn’t matter to me if Wycliffe is a heretic or not.Its not relevant to what I believe.”

    It shows how fast you change your mind and how fast you could bounce from one hero to another because your foundation is weak.

    Now let off some steam and when you calm down we can discuss whatever point you like.

    Inhale

    Exhale

    Inhale

    Exhale

    much better

  • No not clear. We cannot continue until I get a word from you if Wycliffe is a heretic or not.

    Stop trying to out stubborn. Is Wycliffe a heretic or not?

  • No my friend. Wycliffe is not a side issue. He represents the sickness and how it grew. This is why I persist we discuss Wycliffe and then deal with your errors.

    But to say that he is somewhat of a heretic is an scapegoating the issue. Its like saying one is half pregnant. This wishy washy attitude is always what I get regarding Luther and Calvin’s heresies.

    Now that this is out of the way, what is on your mind? Write it in a line or two, keep it short and please don’t be long winded. My time is limited my friend.

    Let e guess. You want to attack the Catholic Church. Let me see what you have written after Wycliffe. Hold on for a second.

    Am back. Now you chose the next topic “His view on the Catholic Church surrendering his wealth, I’m not against that”.

    Now I am stuck in dealing with this one. You made the choice. I deal with one issue at a time.

    So you believe that the Catholic Church should surrender their properties? To who? You?

    Are you mad?

  • No. You changed the subject and brought up property. You said you agree that the Catholic Church gives up their property. Discuss away.

    Now you know how my needle works. IT STOPS at the statement which I read FIRST. So after you are done answering then MAKE SURE what you say next is the word “Authority”.

    Anything else I delete.

    These are my rules of discussion because I have little time. I have a tank filled with fish. Some have their scales peeling off. Some have too much nitrogen in their system. Some are flopping for air. You my friend are flopping for air and I am trying to rescue you but you are flopping too hard and can’t calm down to permit me to pick your your slippery scales so that I dunk you in Holy Water so that you may breath. Now stop flopping.

    I said STOP. Dang he is suffocating. I paid $.25 for this yellow fish but its worth it.

  • “Signing off.”

    Great. Thank you for minimizing my homework.