Is Donald Trump The Great Monarch Or A Cyrus As Predicted By So Many Prophecies? Is He One Of The Seven Shepherds Who Will Defeat The Antichrist?

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By Walid Shoebat (A Shoebat Christmas Special)

So is Donald Trump the Great Monarch, the Cyrus of our times (Isaiah 45:1,2) who was ordained in this hour to be a blessing to the nations?

There has been much fascination over the rise the “great monarch,” a Christian King who is foretold to set up a new social order upon the ruins of socialism. He is to usher the arrival of the “eagles” spoken of in the Bible which speaks of “seven shepherds” in Micah 5 who will arise to defeat “the Assyrian” (Antichrist). He is to squash the Islamic threat, the New World Order and all enemies of Christianity. To many, Trump seems to fit the bill, since some of these prophecies speak of a monarch of German descent and the Donald fit this criteria:

Protestants in Germany as well as Catholics throughout Europe speak of the West to be ruled in the spirit of Charlemagne, the Franks after all were the first barbaric tribe to embrace Christianity who (like Trump) were mostly of Germanic origin. Catholics speak of the “Great Monarch” accompanied by an “Angelic Pope” who helps to restore Christendom to its rightful state after a period of apostasy.

Some of these prophecies say that this great monarch will possess Jerusalem establishing what they term “an era of peace” which comes before the arrival of the Antichrist. Trump recently has increased his church attendance which is noted by many Christians.

So is Trump the man?

Let us examine. But first heed this advise: always keep in mind the most crucial point in the Christian walk is doctrine. Lest you have the wrong prophetic interpretation, you should solely rely on doctrine, which ranks higher than prophecy. For it is by doctrine you will spot the Christ, the true Christian from the false Christian, as well as the Antichrists. This is crucial, since if you later get disappointed, you can easily correct your faulty prophetic interpretations, while your doctrine remains firm, then repent of your error, tie your shoelaces and “continue running the marathon”.

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So lets delve and seriously and thoroughly examine some of these prophecies in light of certain prophetic scale accepted by both Catholics and Protestants and in light of the Bible itself. One prediction states:

“He [the great monarch] shall reign over the House of Agar, and shall possess Jerusalem.” (Isidore of Seville, 7th Century)

So far so good, until we read one prophecy collector, Yves Dupont interprets:

The Jews will be converted and, after a short period, probably a few years, Christ will come down again and judge the nations”.

This, they predict, will usher in what is termed as “an era of peace” and only then, after that era of peace is over, that the Antichrist will finally appear to be destroyed by Christ’s coming.

While there is no doubt that God will raise “seven shepherds” (Micah 5) who will combat the “Assyrian” (Antichrist) and these will redeem many in Israel, but to think there is an “era of peace prior to the advent of Antichrist” should be questioned in light of crucial factors well etched and established in both scripture and by many other saints.

First of all, we do not find anywhere in the whole of Scripture anything remotely close to “an era of peace” preceding the coming of Antichrist, where Israel is restored.

This idea which states that Israel is restored by a monarch needs to be examines in light of scripture which clearly states:

And so all Israel should be saved, as it is written: There shall come out of Sion, he that shall deliver [Israel], and [he Christ] shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob. (Romans 11:26)

We find no monarch here, “All Israel should be saved” by Christ and this is preceded by the Church’s ultimate trial after “a religious deception” and “the falling away come first” which seems within sight more than “an era of peace”.

Perhaps one might write-off this critique we just made here, but lest someone objects, it is not only the Bible which states this, but the Catechism of the Catholic Church itself does. Both agree, that only “Christ as king” is to be manifested in “the last days” and his recognition is by “all Israel”.

Even St. Augustine confirms: “the Jews shall believe in the true Christ, that is, our Christ, thanks to this great and admirable prophet Elias …” St. Augustine confirms scripture which does not say what Dupont says.

Also, we cannot, and should not, completely and strictly rely on everything we read on the internet and in ill-sourced books. It is this crucial problem that I see amongst many Christians, especially today. With many of these predictions, it is nearly impossible to even verify the authenticity of some quotes that are supposed to be about the ‘Great Monarch’. Many of the quotes mentioned in books and on websites about him do not give original sources.

Even “Prophecy for Today” which many use as a source for these prophecies by Catholic Edward Connor, he agrees with my warning: 

“Public prophecy ceased with the death of St. John the Apostle. Private prophecy, even if received from God, is not reliable because the prophet is fallible. He can forget, misunderstand or misinterpret. Even when he does not err, those who hear him and who transmit the message can err

Not only can interpreters err, but Conner himself erred. One could find a multitude of unverifiable quotes in his book. For example:

“The Great French Monarch, who shall subject all the East, shall come around the end of the world…. ” – St. Hyppolitus (235 AD) 

Not only that France as a nation did not exist in the 3rd Century AD, but Conner simply gives no source.

Go ahead, try to hunt down this quote and you will never find it written in any historic reference. Many of the Great Monarch prophecies originate from a book titled “From Hell with Love” By Zak Portelli and even he failed to provide sources for some of these supposed ‘original quotes’.

For another example “He shall inherit the Crown of the Fleur-de-Lis (Bishop Ageda, 12th Century)” is a quote which one cannot find a source from any credible reference.

One needs to wisely sift. Indeed, the Jews will return in unbelief and while some Catholics object about establishing Israel, while Protestants claim that the popes have always been anti-Israel, this is not true. Popes unanimously agree Israel’s return is of God. For example, Pope Benedict XV (died 1922) and before Israel was established he correctly interpreted and predicted:

“The return of the Jews to Palestine is the will of God, hence they will have to leave many countries.”

“The Jews shall return to Palestine and become Christians toward the end of the world.” (Anne Catherine Emmerich, died 1824)

The papacy always had a certain care for the Jewish people and Catholic history debunks the notion that the Catholic Church was anti-Semitic. We also do not find popes saying that we will have an “era of true peace” just before Antichrist comes. The Vatican’s position is clear on this issue.

The impossible to answer Jesus-style question to many who solely focus on such prophecies is this:

Which of the prophecies is true, the ones who say that the “Great Monarch” is French, German, Roman, Spanish, Bourbon, of the House of Habsburg, a descendant of Constantine, Charlemagne or King Louis IX, especially that these bloodlines are not the same?

These rulers all belonged to different ethnicities, different races, different families, different countries, and possess different lineages.

Whenever one find die speculation, one sees multitudes filled with a false hope.

Always keep in mind that the bulk of these prophecies stem from when the claim was made by Saint Remigius, bishop of Reims and apostle of the Franks in 496 “vision” of the last monarch to descend from France. This prophecy was related through Hincmar (806-882), archbishop of Reims, and Rabanus Maurus Magnentius (780-856) O.S.B., archbishop of Mainz.

However that may be, Marie-Julie Jahenny (1850-1941), also known as the “Breton” stigmatist, prophesied that Henry V, the Count of Chambord, was the chosen King. Yet despite his death, one of her predictions dated 1890 declares he is yet “reserved for the great epochs” (the end of time). So here we have a factor of human error.

We must always keep a balance. For example, I have poured much effort in evaluating the works of Valtorta and wrote two articles one in favor and another in critique where I show how some of her ‘amazing finds’ can easily be obtained from other sources. While there are claims that Pope Pius XII approved Valtorta’s writings, this is questionable. Therefore, we should not take a dogmatic approach to certain seer or prophecies or interpreters or nuns lest we err in interpreting them or someone else erred in transmitting their predictions. Collectors err tremendously. For example, Dupont (who collects these prophecies) includes other serious contradictions to scripture. For example, he gives a supposed quote by Venerable Bartholomew Holzhauser:

God will bind Satan for a number of years until the days of the Son of Perdition…there will be an ecumenical council which will be the greatest of all councils.  By the grace of God, by the power of the Great Monarch, and by the authority of the Holy Pontiff [Angelic Pope], and by the union of the most devout princes, atheism and every heresy will be banished from the earth.  The Council will define the true sense of Holy Scripture, and this will be believed and accepted by everyone (Dupont, p. 40).

Contrary to this private prophecy, that satan is bound before all heresy is eliminated, in scripture Satan is never bound before the Son of Perdition come but strictly after. We find absolutely nothing (not a single verse) in scripture to support this conclusion.

On the contrary, St. Bellarmine who did an entire essay on Antichrist, he correctly instructs never to proclaim such things. He refers to Second Thessalonians where God instructs:

And then [after the falling away happens] that wicked one [Antichrist] shall be revealed whom the Lord Jesus shall kill with the spirit of his mouth; and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming, him, Whose coming is according to the working of Satan, in all power, and signs, and lying wonders … (2 Thess 2:8-9)

“And then that wicked one shall be revealed”? This “then” comes right immediately after the great apostasy and there is no epoch of peace. It is strictly a falling away first and then immediately the Antichrist appears.

Lets again examine:

“God will bind Satan for a number of years until the days of the Son of Perdition”

This goes contrary to Scripture which clearly states the devil is bound way after the Antichrist appears and is captured (see Apocalypse, 19:20-21; 20:1-2).

We do not have two separate bindings of Lucifer. This alone puts a dent in all of these claims of an “era of peace” that supposedly comes before Antichrist shows up.

And here is another danger. Such reliance on “an era of peace” would lax the saints to roam and be worry free like the virgin without oil to only be caught when the Bridegroom comes and be left out. This is a very serious issue to consider.

Other problems can be found. It was the Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius, which shaped and influenced the bulk of these prophecies. St. Methodius was from the fourth century. So the prophecies would sound amazing especially that they mention a monarch (king) combating the Muslim world. Islam only appeared in the seventh century after Pseudo-Methodius was written. St. Methodius of Olympus of the fourth century never wrote the Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius which became heavily accessed by some seers.

This takes the thunder of the miraculous factor of predicting Islam in many of these prophecies. Dupont for example whom I have poured much time into his works, I found grave errors. He naively credits prophecies to the fourth-century theologian St. Methodius of Olympus when in fact it was from the Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius (7th century). He wrote:

St. Methodius. "A day will come when the enemies 
of Christ will boast of having conquered the whole 
world. They will say: 'Christians cannot escape 
now!' But a Great King will arise to fight the enemies 
of God. He will defeat them, and peace will be given 
to the world, and the Church will be freed from her 
anxieties."

So this would be another source where this “era of peace” was deduced: “peace will be given to the world”.

But this was never uttered by St. Methodius. Pseudepigrapha are falsely-attributed works, texts whose claimed author is not the true author, or a work whose real author attributed it to a figure of the past.

Such mistakes are not only done by Catholics. Many pre-tribulation evangelical Protestants who use Pseudo-Ephraem which also relies upon the Pseudo-Methodius to prove a ‘pre-tribulation rapture’ when in reality neither Methodius or Pseudo-Ephraem ever mention anything about a pre-tribulation rapture. Yet so many books are written on the subject and people consume them to no end believing they will vanish before WWIII erupts.

Scripture clearly speaks of a false peace (not an era of peace) which is established after some turmoil by Antichrist, not a monarch. Therefore, be careful lest you fall for the Antichrist believing he is the monarch.

We ought to ask: isn’t the world today calling for peace between Shiite and Sunni? Isn’t Erdogan of Turkey approaching the Jews and just made a deal with them on cooperation becoming the defender of Gaza and for benefits from the Mediterranean he already made a pact with Israel? Isn’t the world tired of ISIS and here comes Erdogan promising to restore peace? Isn’t the world crying for peace and the end of bloodshed? Doesn’t scripture tell us that when the world says “peace and safety” is when “sudden destruction comes”? Therefore, this “era of peace” is dangerous for it is built on false hope.

Another danger is this: imagine if a nationalist arises in Europe (altra-nationalists are already arising in Europe) and alongside stands a bad pope. A multitude of Catholics would gladly follow them believing them to be the ‘great monarch’ and the ‘angelic pope’. After all, Antichrist comes after (not before) the great monarch. So we still have time to be merry. But as it turns out, these (as Paul warned in 2 Thess 2) are agents of Antichrist or are even “the beast” and “the false prophet,” who will lead these souls to hell, while the true Christ who later comes to combat them is viewed as the Antichrist.

This is why doctrine is the scale and not prophecy. The Catholic Church today is not the same as it was during Pope Pius XII during Hitler. God forbid in the future the Vatican embraces more Protestantism to accept a Protestant tyrant from Germany and then we have a German Antichrist whom we think is the “great monarch”. Catholics and Protestants should remain miles apart when it comes to the mixing of what each considers essential theology.

Remember Christ said to be like the five wise virgins, to be prepared and be ready for His coming and not the coming of another (unless they are the two witnesses). So then here comes Christ to find the five slumbering virgins instead are standing on the wrong side of the fence and then He shuts the door.

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Left: Bad Virgins. Right: Good Virgins. Choose your virgins wisely

Christ warned of this. Keep in mind, the two witnesses will come and be martyred teaching true doctrine. These two do not come in an “era of peace” but turmoil. Scripture also speaks of seven shepherds and eight principled men. There is no doubt that we will have a “monarch” or even perhaps “seven” or “eight” leaders who will devastate the Antichrist, but this will occur after, not before, the falling away, and during when the man of sin is revealed immediately. Few of these prophecy books focus on Micah 5:5 which is clear as to when this peace happens:

And this man [Messiah] shall be our peace, when the Assyrian [Antichrist] shall come into our land, and when he shall set his foot in our houses: and we shall raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men.

The “peace” will only and strictly occur after the seven shepherds are led by Christ Himself. It is only then will they defeat the Antichrist in Israel. It is only then “this man [Messiah] shall be our peace“.

This is not established by a monarch who brings a pre-peace.

It is crucial to also keep in mind, that while these saints are approved saints by the Vatican, this is not the issue here. The issue is that Catholics should not put stock in all the claims and quotes made in the name of such saints, many of which collections are not verified or are approved by Rome or might have been wrongly interpreted.

Always keep in mind the most crucial point in the Christian walk is doctrine. Lest you have the wrong prophetic interpretation, you should solely rely on doctrine which ranks higher than prophecy for it is by doctrine you will spot the true Christ from the false Christ. This is crucial since if you later get disappointed with Trump not fulfilling your hopes, you can easily correct your faulty prophetic interpretations, tie your shoelaces and continue “running the marathon”.

Note: In my next critique (of the same thread since some complained of my long articles) I will include further misunderstandings when examining these prophecies in light of scripture. There are some human errors. However, the errors are matters of misunderstanding the timing of the epochs. Nevertheless, the conclusions of some of these prophecies are quite remarkable and we should not ignore them. As I have poured into the works of Yves Dupont but thought to share this time a few articles presented from my critical lens. Perhaps someday I will write articles critiquing myself, from my own “critical lens” since I too erred. I perhaps will end up plucking out my own eyeballs for penance lest I sin again.

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  • Eric

    Sir, Excellent. I too have bought and red through Dupont’s book a couple of times, and I have also found myself questioning some of these prophecies as well. The guideline that I used was simple: Does this match up with Scripture? Yes, or no. If yes, then I take it into consideration. If not, I discarded it.

    The Great Monarch topic, as I found myself reading through Dupont’s book, I found myself confused. What the Prophecies paint, in many cases, sounds like WW3. Yet all of it supposedly happens BEFORE Antichrist comes? That never made any sense to me. All the turmoil, war, famine, and what have you all described in such prophecies sounds more like what the Bible describes the Tribulation to be, yet all of this is supposedly prior to it? And only to have ANOTHER period of Turmoil to follow when the Antichrist DOES finally come?

    As such, I took Dupont’s interpretations in many instances with caution, as well as these prophecies in general. One has to be careful, as you have said, with interpretation. I pay attention to a handful–nuggets of wisdom, as you say–and sift through the rest.

    I look forward to your other articles in the future about this topic.

    • I suggest you read Shoebat with “caution” as well 😉

      • Doc

        Yep. That Shoebat character may shake up what you already think you believe. (But I can’t argue with anything but minor details in his articles).

      • Eric

        Sir, I will take your suggestion. You are still a trusted, valued source of information and teaching. As you wisely state in your article, we must use discernment and wisdom, and be careful of human error. All of us make errors and mistakes from time to time. We must be cautious even with ourselves. 🙂

      • Kevin Nicholson

        “Pay close attention to yourself and to your teaching; persevere in these things, for as you do this you will ensure salvation both for yourself and for those who hear you. ” 1 Timothy 4:16

        We are reading and praying with you teacher….

      • Brenda

        Yeah, when you mention plucking your own eyeballs out that is kinda creepy Walid, eeew.

    • Grandmere

      Like you, I have had reservations about some of these prophecies. Kind of like the Rapture theory, some don’t “sit right” with me. Something in my spirit keeps them at arms length. This and the following articles will be invaluable to the sifting process. With the proliferation of prophecy books and videos, I believe many people are going to balls of confusion when they need mental and spiritual clarity the most.

      • Eric

        Absolutely, Grandmere.

      • Julie

        True prophecies incorporate history.

  • Shane Bass

    I have read God’s war on terror and love your use of the Bible when explaining end times theology. I have also watched every episode of your end times series. I thought the book was a good read and I appreciate elaborating on your previous articles of it. My one bad habit is ignoring references at the end of the books I read. Also, one of the main reasons I am constantly reading this site, books, and watching the videos is to make sure I am not mislead. Again, thank you for this article and I will wait for another read recommended. Long Live Walid the Wise and Theodore the Bold. Now time for the immaculate conception God bless you sir.

  • The question regarding whether Trump is a Cyrus or the “Great Monarch” requires some thinking, but the immediate, gut-feeling reaction, is “No” to the “Great Monarch” and “Maybe” to the question regarding Cyrus. It means that one will have to monitor Trump’s action once he is firmly in place in the White House. Only then, through the lens of hindsight, will we see whether Trump is a Cyrus or not.

    The “Great Monarch”, to be honest, sounded too convoluted in my mind. If we were waiting for a great earthly king to banish every form of heresies, then why are we as Christian reciting the Creed, especially this line, “And from thence, Christ will come to judge the living and the dead?” If we are all truly looking toward the establishment of Christ the King to take the throne of David, then why are some looking for an earthy king? To me, that completely throws off the timing of the epoch.

    Today I was pondering upon the prophecy by Jesus, “I say to you, you will not see Me again until you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord,'” (Matthew 23:39, Luke 13:35), and it occurred that Christ was actually giving the Jews an advanced warning, that they would mistakenly embrace someone who comes in showing himself to be the long-awaited messiah, and it is a distinct possibility some Christians will fall hard for that (remember the words Christ warned about not going to the desert or the inner room if they proclaimed Christ was there?).

    Then, following the line of thinking, some of the Jews will fall for the deception while other Jews, being skeptical by nature, will doubt and probably would listen to the apostolic Christians residing in Jerusalem sounding the alarm. The apostolic Christians would probably be jailed and then placed on a mock trial and summarily executed for refusing to renounce Christ.

    The biggest question that demand an answer from me is, “Who is the ‘we’ being referred to in Micah 5?” Who is going to “raise for ourselves seven shepherds and eight princely men?” If it is the Jews, then perhaps some of them would contact Rome and ask for help because after all, the Vatican were instrumental in helping the establishment of the State of Israel, and perhaps the pope, assuming there is going to be one, will put aside all the schism and call for help from the apostolic Church (seven shepherds to me has to be the apostolic Church, at least there are still in exist four ancient Holy See – Alexandria, Rome, Jerusalem, and Antioch), and then the Pope could make an appeal in front of the United Nations and ask for help from the Security Council. That could be where the eight “princely men” comes from.

    All of this, of course and I will readily admit it, is pure speculation.

    I think, the wisdom is this, already be ready to admit to be wrong and adjust accordingly. I could be dead wrong that Erdogan is not the Antichrist and the image I made would me look extremely foolish. It could also be that Erdogan is the Antichrist and the image I made was prophetic. I think the reason the wise virgins were admitted while the foolish were not was because the wise took great care of its oil. It did not allow itself to be exhausted, trimmed the wick, and made sure to carry extra because maintaining the oil lamp demands attention to details. In order, the wise took care to examine oneself and not to allow the idle things of the world to distract.

    I remember the image that Andrew shared, and it was an engraving of the ten virgins. The foolish ones were dancing and playing while the lamp were exhausted yet the the wise were paying attention, laboring, and making sure to keep the lamp filled. That image stuck in my head.

    • richinnameonly

      With regard to Jesus second coming and many being deceived: Matt 24:4,5,23-26 and Rev 1:7. Crucial to sharpen and keep our recognition of Christ when he returns. Sad to learn so much, come so far, and then be deceived at the end.

      • Remember the parable of the wise servants who waited for the master’s return?

        That, too, is prophetic for our time.

        • richinnameonly

          Yes sir!

    • Kevin Nicholson

      ” In order, the wise took care to examine oneself and not to allow the idle things of the world to distract.”

      Amen Trevor:

      “But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.…” Matthew 6:20-21

    • Throwing a wrench.

      I recall watching a video on YouTube where two Orthodox Elders were discussing a prophecy of a return of a beloved king. I can’t find the video at the moment.

      From what I remember, the Elders said when the king return, there would be 40 years of peace and upon the death of the king, the world will explode in wars which heralds the arrival of Antichrist.

      It is similar to “Great Monarch” belief – period of peace followed by a devastating war and the arrival of Antichrist.

      It is why I often am hesitant to accept those private prophecy because it does not seem to match with the timeline presented by Christ and St. Paul the apostle.

      Example: Christ spoke of an army that would surround Jerusalem which literally happened in 67-70AD, and everything He said came true. Yet here we still are and Israel is back in the land. The Apostolic Christians, living side by side the Jews and Muslims (often fraught with tensions and flare up), and there is more than a very good chance Christ’s prophecy can happen again.

      I think again wisdom calls for us to not become so stubbornly dogmatic in belief on the timing of the epoch.

      We know there has been many antichrists who came yet none of them turned out to be The Antichrist.

      So again we must be patient and ever watchful.

  • Doc

    Only time will tell if Trump is one of the shepherds raised up to fight the Antichrist. It could be that he is simply the leader who creates an atmosphere in the US government where a future shepherd will have the will and the means to be that shepherd.

    I will say this, though: Donald Trump has been raised up by God for some divine purpose. Notice how during the election anyone who went up against him suffered a significant reversal of fortune? I’m talking anyone from Jeb Bush to Glenn Beck. Even Megyn Kelly supposedly had a bout with a stomach virus after going head-to-head with Trump. Let’s also not forget Hillary Clinton, who was supposed to be unbeatable and was thought to be ahead in the polls right up until the end.

    Her expected triumph came to a swift and surprising end. Even the attempts to steal the election by targeting the electoral college have so far fallen flat. On top of that, her defeat may in fact signal the beginning of the end of the entire Clinton Empire: The Clinton Foundation, which has no cards left to play in the political game.

    • Brenda

      One of the things that stood out for me was everyone that attacked his character had serious character flaws themselves, It was kind of like watching adult children.

  • infowolf1

    “First of all, we do not find anywhere in the whole of Scripture anything remotely close to “an era of peace” preceding the coming of Antichrist, where Israel is restored.” haven’t read beyond this yet but YEAH IT IS SPELLED OUT IN REVELATION, where after the cataclysmic crustal displacement/pole shift/whatever right after the four horsemen, angels are told to hold the winds so they can’t harm the trees (a serious issue per National Geographic for a colossal asteroid hit) and there follows the 144,000 Jews who follow Christ. Revelation Chapter 7 and 8:1

    • Lidia

      Did you ever listen to John Moore? He is very interesting. He mentions the Book of Revelation and quotes scriptures from it when he talks about pole shifting and other cataclysmic events. Your comment reminded me of him.

  • Tom_mcewen

    May the Catholic Church be as far from Protestantism as east is from the west. Not for hostile reasons but for safety of doctrine, I think of doctrine as a map where the land mines are buried, one trusted map, one trusted path is fine, 44,000 different maps can get us killed.

    • Pero Ercegovac

      Excellent, well put.

    • Kamau41

      Well said Tom.

  • infowolf1

    Excellent article, clears up a lot of problems. in the EO there is anticipated some great monarch also, though this is less about the world than about Russia’s recovery.
    there is also the idea of 1/3 turks die, 1/3 convert, 1/3 on the run but this seems to be a
    back at you invention (unless the back at you prophecy was from God) since the first
    reference to such figures is a hadith of Mohammed peace be NOT upon his name,
    saying 1/3 of Christians would die, 1/3 convert 1/3 on the run. I stumbled on this in the youtube acts17 of David Wood work against islam, and some prophecy seems to
    come from a monak of a Nestorian group who met an angel. so its all kinda dubious.
    that doesn’t mean something similar might not happen.

  • Juan

    It’s very soon, we have to wait and his actions will speak for him, we will know by his fruits. I have sympathy for Trump but I am only unconditional of Jesuchrist and the Church.
    We will can talk about Trump as statesman when he will become president and start to rule.

  • Coombes Larry

    There is a lot here to process and isgest and there is no way I can make response immediately with work to do – and a business to set up.

    But my concern here is… if doctrine trump prophecy…. Then why appeal to prophecy at all?!
    Why claim the seers at all?

    This seems to be a case of “Where the prophecies agree with my theory I include them and where they do not I can disregard them.” Either we accept prophecy as a source or we do not. We do not pock and choose, surely?

    Also, the mass of prophecies across the ages – I am NOT talking Yves Dupont who I have never used as a reference – are very clear that the Great Monarch is a literal Monarch.

    Sure, I could accept one or two seers being wrong but like twenty, in different times and different places? And such prophecies are very clear that the Great Monarch is a literal King and he restores monarchy worldwide, establishing the 10 Kingdoms that are described in Revelation.

    Also, if we accept the idea that the Great Monarch has arrived is, say, Donald Trump, then the prophecies surrounding the Anti-Christ who is supposed to FOLLOW the death of the Great Monarch confuses the idea that The Anti-Christ has appeared and is Erdogan.

    At the moment this all looks very selective to me. But I will wait for the complete case. I am assuming that the prophecies held by the Church regarding the nature of The AntiChrist will be covered.

    • Coombes,

      You are presenting an opinion here. This is exactly what you did initially and its a repeat record player. You asked, I delivered. The ball is in your court to provide sources to disprove the case. In other words, you need to find error in my references and claims and also provide counter evidence. No monkey wrenches. I do not desire to be right, I prefer to be wrong and what you present here is not iron sharpen iron, but a pencil trying to sharpen a sword 😉

      • Coombes Larry

        Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!

        Easy. You have presented PART of a case. I want to see the whole thing.
        At the moment I am still struggling to understand fully.

        Do you hold there is a Great Monarch of some kind?

        Are you claiming that Catholic prophecy has some authority or we go the scriptures alone when it comes to End Time understanding and data re: The AntiChrist.

        I can’t counter what I do not yet fully understand.
        And I have quoted VAST amounts in previous posts!!! If I am going to do so again I might as well deal with the whole picture at once.

        But, at the moment, I struggle with the *logic* of it all. Catholic Prophecy may be at odds with Revelation re: The AntiChrist and a Time of Peace but that surely assumes what it seeks to prove? I thought the point was that the seers were NOT talking about the End Times. If so, Revelation does not apply as yet and there is no conflict with doctrine nor the scriptures?

        I don’t fully understand your case yet. Want to see the rest.
        Bear in mind that is a unique reading of the seers; although you seem to be dismissing them in large part which makes it hard for me to know where to go.

        I am trying to understand the logic first. To my mind. we either accept the consensus of Catholic prophecy…. not every single item, but where they repeat themselves and align… or we dismiss them utterly. We don’t select based on an assumption… surely?
        I don’t see exactly how you approach Prophecy yet and, as I tel my students when explaining counter argument to them, “First you confirm your opponents point of view by describing it and the evidence they use and THEN you show where it is in error.”

        At the moment, I am not fully in a position to describe your position so clearly I don’t understand it. My fault I will grant. If I am to engage with you I want to do so properly out of respect and, yes, I will use quotes and sources. That’s easily done.

        BUt, for now… could you explain kinda how you regard the authority, or rather, usefulness, of Catholic Prophecy in understanding our times… in more dumb language for me.
        Are you really laying claim to Donald Trump being the ‘Great Monarch?’
        Oh, and just to help me understand…
        Do you hold that we are living in the end times with the The AntiChrist upon us and Jesus’s return following after? [If so, then Revelation would apply strictly.]

      • Coombes Larry

        Oh yes, and to be fair, I agree that I was just expressing an initial opinion.

        I want to digest and understand and I want to see the complete argument first.

    • Grandmere

      We should pick and choose. We are to be on the lookout for false prophets.

      • I love it when Grand saves us a multitude of words and with a SNAP she hate the mouse, right on the neck.

      • Kamau41

        Big time double SNAP for you Grandmere.

    • Lidia

      Today, the Great Monarch is 18 years old going on 19. When he reaches 40, he will fight his last battle and win. Many things will happen before he reaches 40, a great cataclysmic event-three days of darkness- and the great war. He fights against an army that threatens to destroy the Catholic Church. During those terrible years, there is no pope in Europe. After the war, he restores the pope somewhere in Europe, I believe it’s Constantinople. Rome is submerged underwater like many other European cities. The new pope crowns him king in Hagia Sophia–a symbolic event due to the Ottomans being defeated and removed from Asia Minor. Maybe some Turks will convert.
      This is why they call him the Great Monarch. The “era of peace” happens during his reign and then it’s gone when he dies. He lays down his crown and scepter in Jerusalem, symbolizing the end of his reign. He is buried there. Immediately after that, the antichrist comes.
      The Bible doesn’t mention Constantinople (maybe an ancient name is mentioned) but it will be an important place, second to Jerusalem.

      • I was listening to Fr. Chad Ripperger yesterday and he said that one does not have to believe in Fatima, Akita or any of these issues. Its not that I do not believe in these, I do, but some issues to be careful of is that some prophecies were not made by these saints. I also believe in many of these prophecies, but some books have errors. Perhaps you can answer the issues brought forth in the article? How do you establish an era of peace when considering the issue of scripture? It is here were my readers are all silent and are simply repeating statements.

        • Lidia

          I have to go somewhere now but I will leave you with one thing concerning the prophecy of “three days of darkness.” What can eclipse the sun for 3 whole days? I used to think it was smoke, dust and debris caused by the disasters, surrounding the Earth and blocking the sun but now I believe it’s actually an eclipse.
          I will try to answer your questions later.

        • Lidia

          OK, I’m back.
          “Let us examine. But first heed this advise: always keep in mind the most crucial point in the Christian walk is doctrine. Lest you have the wrong prophetic interpretation, you should solely rely on doctrine, which ranks higher than prophecy. For it is by doctrine you will spot the Christ, the true Christian from the false Christian, as well as the Antichrists.”
          You would know more than me about Bible doctrine. If you say that there is nothing written in the Bible concerning an “era of peace’ before the antichrist, then I believe you. But Our Lady of Fatima promised “a period of peace” which will be extremely short in nature. How would you place Our Lady of Fatima? She would not be a doctrine or prophet? Either you believe her or you don’t. That’s your choice. For the Catholics, Mary is in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

        • Lidia

          “First of all, we do not find anywhere in the whole of Scripture anything remotely close to “an era of peace” preceding the coming of Antichrist, where Israel is restored.

          This idea which states that Israel is restored by a monarch needs to be examines in light of scripture which clearly states:

          And so all Israel should be saved, as it is written: There shall come out of Sion, he that shall deliver [Israel], and [he Christ] shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob. (Romans 11:26)”

          True, but the Bible talks about signs to watch out for before the return of Christ. These signs are vague like for example, WAR. Does the Bible name the war? Say WW 1, WW 2 or WW 3? Does it name the generals, the armies, the presidents or even the United States of America? The Bible mentions the persecution of Jews but does it talk about how the Germans placed them in concentration camps? All this happened before Israel became a nation again. Jews returning to Israel is in the Bible.

          • I’d like to throw this into the mix. There are certain general events or conditions that will occur in the immediate lead up to anti Christ and then the Lord’s coming as you mentioned. A period characterised by war and instability. Pestilences, and food scarcity. I see Matthew 24 in particular is mirrored in the seals of Revelation 6. But Luke includes a statement which may be an important time marker. After saying Jerusalem would be destroyed and the inhabitants expelled to all the nations he said this:
            Luke 21:24 “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” I would offer that the times of the Gentiles trodding down Jerusalem ended in 1967. After some more examples the Lord then says this:
            31 “So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.” 32 “Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.”
            If this understanding is correct, we are in a limited time frame and can expect very interesting and trial-some days ahead.

        • luis

          Hi Walid, where do you listen to Fr. Ripperger? I heard a couple of his messages on YouTube and find them fascinating

  • I absolutely agree with what has been said here. The two main points I come away with are focus on doctrine and make sure that is correct. Indeed. We can have a rough view of what is coming (to really trim it down, what is coming is anti Christ and then the real Christ) but the details of surrounding events can be a bit cloudy.
    And then there is this view of a period of peace. I noticed this idea in comments over this past week so when I saw it presented here I was talking to the computer screen. A period of peace? I’ve never heard or read such a thing. I don’t recall this even being promised to us in this world.
    John 16: 33 “These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.”
    There will be a declaration of peace at some point. It is only that: a declaration. It isn’t real. It isn’t God’s peace.
    1 Thess. 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
    That peace will be the time of anti Christ and the Day of the Lord.
    Just look at the world. It’s never been really peaceful for any length of time. Look at the world today. It is like dressing up a diseased corpse in a wedding dress and saying everything is great and lets party.
    I think I shall stay here in the woods with my outhouse.

    • Grandmere

      Nobody is going to lure you into the desert. XO

  • chinese

    For it is by doctrine you will spot the Christ, the true Christian from the false Christian, as well as the Antichrists. This is crucial, since if you later get disappointed, you can easily correct your faulty prophetic interpretations, while your doctrine remains firm, then repent of your error, tie your shoelaces and “continue running the marathon”.

    Amen to this!

  • chinese

    I like Mr Walid Prophecy stuff a lot. Please continue to provide us Laymen with these knowledges. Thanks.

    • Thank you Chinese. I usually get messages that go like this “I like Walid’s …. BUT ….”

      Your comment did not have a “but”. I usually get that from Americans.

  • rodolfo

    The great monarch as they have expected a messiah riding on a golden chariot. Instead came on a donkey and was rejected. is it not mind conditioning just like what they believe that he is here now and waiting for the right time to reveal himself? Jesus Christ our saviour will come again from heaven as written on the scripture. But before the coming happens, falling away shall happen first. This falling away i have lots of questions. Who will fall away? fall-away from what and where? and we are told to remain faithful steadfast because even the elect can be seduced. All i can do is pray.
    May Jesus Christ grant me the grace of courage and strength to remain faithful to Words of the Father as He taught us. Grace of understanding to the will of the Father in Heaven that i may live my life pleasing to the Father in Heaven and not offensive to my neighbours to the glory of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

  • Kamau41

    Another excellent Christmas Special brother Walid. While we row in this marathon, we must always row with caution. What you said here is so powerpacked and filled with great wisdom/truth….
    “Always keep in mind the most crucial point in the Christian walk is doctrine. Lest you have the wrong prophetic interpretation, you should solely rely on doctrine which ranks higher than prophecy for it is by doctrine you will spot the true Christ from the false Christ.”

    • Grandmere

      While you row, we will keep a lookout for mines. No lazy servants on His boat.

      • Kamau41

        That’s how we roll around here. XO

  • Keep in mind some of these are from commentaries that are excellent and is why they concluded that the end will be a showdown with the Ottomans. Some just concluded they were prophecies. Some are great and genuine prophecies. I simply showed some problems like the “era of peace”.

  • Andy Holland

    I don’t think he will be president or president for long. I certainly like him voted for him but the wicked are going to go after him like there is no tomorrow – or he will become perverted.

    • Brenda

      The wicked are after him and anyone that has a mind of their own, It is scary to watch and imagine what it would be like if they got their way for sure.

  • Doc

    I won’t go so far as to believed public prophecy ceased, but just go to Z3 News to read all the so-called prophets that are all over the map predicting everything from prosperity to utter destruction.

  • Darren Neufeldt

    Excellent article Walid, I too really enjoy reading these Shoebat Specials as I learn so much even though at times it takes multiple readings (due to medication that makes me confused at times) to really grasp much of what is written.

    Thank you, I had more but I forgot what I was going to say. Da*n medication.

  • Georgeorwell

    The Magisterium of the Church does not teach that prophecy, public or otherwise, ceased with the death of John. Rather, all divine revelation did. Prophecy is not revelation as long as it is consistent with the faith and does not create new doctrine. Scripture is clear God will send prophets in the end times just as he did before the incarnation. He has continued to send prophets in the many approved apparitions.

    The Blessed Virgin said at Fatima that there would be a period of peace when Russia is consecrated to her Immaculate Heart–and so it will be. This along with other references is where the “era of peace” comes from. As for when Satan is bound and loosed, there is no agreement on this. Scripture makes clear Satan is bound for a time before being unleashed at the end.

    As for Dupont. His study of Catholic prophecy lead him to conclude in the 1970s that Islam would again overrun Europe– and as absurd as it seemed at the time we now see he was right. I read this, by the way, sever years ago in his book before the current situation in Europe and was shocked when I reread it recently.

    As for the Great Monarch. I don’t know if I believe it or not, but no way Trump is it. The Monarch is Catholic not Presbyterian. He is also in his 40s, a soldier and lives in Europe.

  • “Which of the prophecies is true, the ones who say that the “Great Monarch” is French, German, Roman, Spanish, Bourbon, of the House of Habsburg, a descendant of Constantine, Charlemagne or King Louis IX, especially that these bloodlines are not the same? These rulers all belonged to different ethnicities, different races, different families, different countries, and possess different lineages.”

    The answer could be simple, yet no one took the challenge, not one, why? Few want to spend time to think.

    I’ll bite.

    The answer is, “I don’t know. It could be all of it or none of it.”

  • Coombes Larry

    Just for the record, I have never used Dupont as a reference.

  • Coombes Larry

    I am perfectly willing to engage, I assure you.

    But, I must understand your case first. Because the question of the Era of Peace is tied to issues of the Great Monarch and other things, I must understand first.

    Also, to do your work credit will take time and, while my workload has dropped considerably of late as I come to the end of my current contract (a Good Thing TM) it’s my wife’s birthday this wekend and I work on Saturdays. So my focus is not going to be here the next cuple of days.

    So give me time to think, research and ponder. You may be right. This is a new perspective and, if I am to engage you properly, I need to think and double check.
    Doubly important I understand.
    I still think your methodology is likely flawed, mind, but I need to think and check. Because thi sis new thinking… I am not going to reject it out of hand. I am going to check for myself and report back to you.

    Don’t worry, I will respond and with citations but give me time! It’s only fair to you as well, Better a thought out response with checking than knee jerk, ok?

    Thanks for the clarification. It helps me and will enable research. I was not getting it before.

  • Lidia

    Which of the prophecies is true, the ones who say that the “Great Monarch” is French, German, Roman, Spanish, Bourbon, of the House of Habsburg, a descendant of Constantine, Charlemagne or King Louis IX, especially that these bloodlines are not the same? These rulers all belonged to different ethnicities, different races, different families, different countries, and possess different lineages.”
    “Take Fatima and Akita seriously. Don’t take Medieval prophecies that seriously. The Medieval prophecies are confusing and contradict each other. One says the great monarch is a Spaniard. Another says he is French. Another he is German. On and on. Confusion is the work of the devil.”

    I’m sure the devil is confused too. Maybe it was meant to fool him. LOL. No one knows who the Great Monarch will be and where he will come from, not even the devil. Only God knows.
    All Dupont wanted to do was put together all these prophecies in one book. He knew that a lot of them were confusing and contradicting. The ones that he payed close attention to were the ones that talked about the Muslim invasion of Europe because of his experience as a soldier in Algeria. He saw how they were coming into France after the war. This made him worry. He only saw the beginning.

  • Lidia

    Walid, thank you for this wonderful article. I read a lot of different stories about the Great Monarch and I never read one quite like yours. It was different and I like it.

    I think the word “Great” scares a lot of people. But if you look back in history, the word “Great” followed a lot names of great men, mostly military men.
    Sargon the Great, Cyrus the Great, Alexander the Great, Peter the Great, Alfred the Great and so on. I’m sure if we knew what his real name would be, say for example, Henry, we would call him Henry the Great instead of the Great Monarch. Maybe that would sound less scarier.

    I like the way you chose Donald as the Great Monarch, or should I call him, Donald the Great. LOL! Two important things to know about the Great Monarch though, he has to be a devout Catholic and a military man which President-elect Donald Trump is not. He is not a monarch but he sure lived like a king and lived in a palace-Trump Tower- before he became elected. We also have to give him time to prove himself as a great leader. Even if he isn’t the Great Monarch, that shouldn’t stop him from being a great leader of the United States.

    Can you please explain this prophecy concerning the Great Monarch–“He shall fight in Syria and win the Holy Cross.” Does this mean that Syria will become a Christian country again? The source is vague but Syria and the Holy Cross put together is interesting especially now with the destruction of Syria. Could there be any hope for Syria?

    We all know that Jesus is the “Greatest Monarch or the Greatest King” During Mass, not just on Sundays, but everyday, after we pray the “Our Father,” during Communion, the priest says: Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day. In your mercy, keep us free from sin and protect us from all anxiety as we wait in joyful hope for the coming of our Savior, Jesus Christ. And we all say together: For the kingdom, the power, and the glory are yours, NOW and forever. Notice the word–NOW, that’s during my life time and forever.

  • Coombes Larry

    Like I say, give me time. I have started on a paper but this will take some considerable time.

    I am taking your work seriously and giving it proper thought. Last piece I did on the shroud of Turin ran to 30 pages and took 10 days.

    • Understood. Working on sharpening your Samurai sword, your shield and your helmet while they prepare the gladiators arena.

      I have written on the shroud. Perhaps you can glean from these. Just look up Shroud and Shoebat. I loaded it with evidence.

      I will issue the other half perhaps today or tomorrow. Duck down, more incoming.

      • Coombes Larry

        Sure. for my part, I pieced to brief videos – both in a rush to respond to atheists who claimed Christianity was devoid of evidence…


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdPmL6zeKs

        As I say, give me time on my response. I WILL respond but I tend to get carried away when I start writing! But you present such an unique case that I have to think it all over. I have started on my reply but I on two pages on just methodology. I suspect that my response will go beyond what comment boxes will handle and I will have to email.

        I also have rainy season flu along with my wife and my brain is mush at this present moment and I just capable of watching anime on my laptop with the sound off!

        But I WILL respond and in such a way that is worthy of the material. I am not one to back down from the challenge! I also appreciate seeing your complete case. The seers talk about Great Monarch, era of peace (apparent) and the AntiChrist in the same breath and it makes it hard to seperate them in a counter case so I do want to know the rest.

        OK, paracetamol and see where wife wants to go for her birthday…

  • Lidia

    One more thing Walid, have you noticed the frequent strong earthquakes?

    http://earthquake.usgs.gov

    They are predicting that Italy will have another big earthquake and also Greece.

    • Grandmere

      Check out Dutchsinse on you tube.

    • I accessed the website, but could not pin point what you mentioned. Is there a specific link that says “frequent”?

      • Lidia

        30 days, significant worldwide. Grandmere gave me a good website below.

  • Lidia

    Yesterday, Thursday, December 8th was the Feast of the Immaculate Conception.

    http://catholicism.about.com/od/holydaysandholidays/f/Imm_Con_Holy.htm

  • Pero Ercegovac

    In Catholic folklore the Great Monarch will be French and will return with the destruction of Republican France. Maybe one should look at Marine le Pen?

    • Given the direction that country is on, I can’t imagine that destruction is far off. Last week they passed a law which will imprison those who oppose abortion.

      • Pero Ercegovac

        Yep, but it is all a matter of perspective is it not. I mean America produced Hillary. Every nation is filled with sin. God decides, not us. But I am talking of folklore here. It is clear in the tales passed down the generations the Great Catholic Monarch will be French. America was not even on the horizon when this myth emerged so the Great Catholic Monarch being an American is a far stretch.

  • racarrera

    They are a magnificent band, and old friends.

  • Thanks. January 20 is a long way off but as St. John Chrysostom said, our citizenship are in heaven.

    • I will just say Amen to that and God bless you and your wife and merry Christmas.

  • Oh, you have the answer then?

  • I guess you missed “or”.

  • Its a great idea.