Erdogan, The New Prophet Of Allah Is Lashing At Europe And The Pope Calling Them “The Alliance Of Crusaders”

By Walid Shoebat

On the eve of the 60th anniversary of the signing of the Treaty of Rome, Pope Francis received 27 European Union heads of state and government at a private audience in the Vatican’s Sala Regia on Friday evening.

This didn’t bode well for Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. On Sunday he lashed at the E.U and the Pope saying: “the alliance of crusaders has shown itself in the end,”

The meeting was attended by Antonio Tajani, president of the European Parliament, Donald Tusk, president of the European Council, and Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission.

Erdoğan during a referendum campaign rally in İstanbul’s Sancaktepe district also said the following:

“EU member states met at the Vatican. These developments bring something to mind. Why did you meet at the Vatican? Why did you meet before the pope? When did the pope become a member of the EU? The alliance of crusaders has shown itself in the end. That is it. What did you tell us up to now? ‘You repeat this, but there is no such thing. Yes, you [EU] won’t accept Turkey into the EU because Turkey is Muslim. I have said this now. Look at what will happen tomorrow. Interesting! Both social democrats and Christian democrats participated in the meeting [at the Vatican]. Good grief! What is this? What is this? I have said this, see what they say tomorrow.”

Erdoğan is trying to cement his prophecy that a war will ensue between Turkey whom he called “the Crescent” and Europe whom he called “the Cross”.

And with his statements yesterday, Erdogan is beginning to sound like the typical prophecy buff and conspiracy theorists who lash at the E.U and the Pope as Antichrist and false-prophet. Erdoğan after all, is appealing to his people who are mostly conspiracy theorists and is asking them to vote for his referendum which will permanently install Erdoğan as the supreme ruler who will fight Rome.

And so to do that, Erdoğan is now sounding like the typical ‘Left Behind’ type prophecy buffs one finds in a multitude of blogs calling to warn everyone on the ‘evils of the Vatican’.

If these images appeals to your mindset as valid teachings on Bible Prophecy, then you need some serious help because you are not exposing the Antichrist, but most likely joining him

Is it no wonder why so many conspiracy theorists and prophecy buffs will join the Antichrist who himself will appeal to their conspiratorial mindsets?

The so-called prophecy buffs, the anti-Vaticanists, the anti-Popes, the anti-Crusaders and the anti-E.U … these must love and agree with everything that Erdogan is saying here.

Perhaps momentarily they should convert to Erdoğan’s Islam?

Its okay. They can always repent later, right?

Common all you anti Vatican and anti-Pope, stand up and be counted.

Tell us how much you agree with Allah’s new prophet Erdoğan?

He is now tickling your ears bashing the Pope and the E.U. The least you could do is tickle him back. You both hate the crusaders, hate the E.U, hate the papacy and hate the Vatican, right?

So start praising Erdoğan you uneducated two timing hypocrites who Christ’s word fits you when He said “My people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge”.

Is it okay for Erdogan to lash out, Catholic haters to lash out, and its only us who are not allowed to lash out?

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  • Tom_mcewen

    The Greek makes a difference between a hill and a mountain, if Rome (the city that Christ was crucified in) according to Rev 17 Rome is the Antichrist, there will be true bible believing born again I Christians bringing buckets of dirt to turn Vatican hill 150 ft into a mountain 1000 ft AGL. Wow the Godless EU meeting, and they are Godless, with the see of Peter will put the fox among the chickens.

    • filomena seiffert

      They keep repeating the lies, mostly protestants, forgetting it is clear in Revelation, Babylon is Jerusalem, where the Lord was crucified. I can see no many will get to Kingdom.

      • Higlac

        If we have been following what the Shoebat team have proposed regarding the CITY of the Antichrist, he makes it clear that NEITHER Jerusalem nor Rome could EVER be such – no, most absolutely NEVER!!!!

        From Wikipedia, we read: Jerusalem’s seven hills are Mount Scopus, Mount Olivet and the Mount of Corruption (all three are peaks in a mountain ridge that lies east of the Old City), Mount Ophel, the original Mount Zion, the New Mount Zion and the hill on which the Antonia Fortress was built. This means that mounts Scopus, Olivet and Corruption-mount are NOT part of the old city of Jerusalem at any time up to the present day.

        As to Rome (and I can vouch for this as having lived there as a child): all the old seven hills (Aventine, Palatine, Cælian, Capitoline, Esquiline, Viminal, Quirinal) are on the EASTERN bank of the Tiber. The Vatican, being on the opposite (Western) side, was NOT considered part of Imperial Rome nor any time beforehand. Even in AD 270, when Emperor Aurelianus built the Roman Walls that still stand in parts (and which included the Trans-Tiberim {Trastevere} at that time), the Vatican was still not part of Rome. Not until the walls built by Popes Leo IV (AD 847-855) and Urban VIII (1623-1644) did the Vatican’s territory at least get enclosed within the Roman perimeter. In other words, not until the 9th century AD was that territory recognised as part of the city’s geographical area.

        I’ll stick with the Shoebats speaking for Mecca as being the likeliest candidate for that unhappy rôle: it very much is also upon seven hills; furthermore, it truly is – and has been since Mohammed’s time – an absolute sink of iniquity for non-Moslems. Duke Reginald of Châtillon (1125-1187) planned a failed expedition against both Medina and Mecca – the soldiers who were part of it were defeated and some of them were sacrificed instead of goats in one year (1183?). Given how Wahhabi Islam emanates from there, it truly deserves annihilation – and I dare say that if any city will truly be lamented by many people, that will be the one (it’s becoming very rich, from what I’ve heard).

        I could be very wrong; however, so far there’s been no reason to doubt what the Shoebats have proposed.

        • BC

          Agree…& if it doesn’t end up being in Saudi Arabia…i’d say Frisco on deck ya…good grief.

          • Higlac

            I know what you mean and why. The one thing with San Francisco (if I’ve understood you correctly) is that it doesn’t apparently have oodles of oil underneath it to ensure that the place burns “forever” the way Saudi Arabia has; furthermore, “Frisco” doesn’t have the blood of “prophets and of saints and of all that were slain upon the earth” to as much of an extent as an older city like Mecca.

          • BC

            Exactly bro…u got my point. San FranSicko as Dr. Savage calls it, doesn’t fit except for the abominable sin acceptance there…and in that case, guess u could add Vancouver & hundreds more probably.

            I agree, & think the Shoebats have buttoned this one up with Mecca…

          • BC

            “Burns forever” could also be understood as ‘radiating forever’ perhaps….still fits Mecca don’t get me wrong… (probably even more so considering ‘Elam shall rise eventually & handle their scandal’).

          • Grandmere

            San Francisco certainly fits with it’s sister city, Sodom. As such, I would expect it to meet a similar fate.

          • Higlac

            The city authorities have openly proclaimed the city as being a sister-city to Sodom (which currently doesn’t exist, since God Destroyed it at least 3,000 years ago)???

            If ever they do, they truly will be laying millions of people bare to God’s Wrath… Most certainly, I’m extremely glad not to be within 2,000 km. of it!!! [This is not to deny that important cities in that kind of a purview of mine as Toronto, Cleveland, Windsor/Detroit and Montréal – among many others – could all meet with similar fates…]

          • Grandmere

            As usual, you are right on top of things.

          • Kamau41

            You have nailed it.

          • Kamau41

            It most certainly does, Grandmere. There is so much filth and demonic conditions within that city.

        • Grandmere

          Excellent analysis, as usual. You are truly an asset to this community.

          • Great, post him at the grinder.

          • Higlac

            Thanks, Grandmère: I’m all too aware how desperately spiritually lukewarm, lonely, sick, naked and utterly compromised I am in my heart. Truly, there’s nothing whatsoever good in me; consequently all the more be all the glory to God and His Name.

          • Grandmere

            Apparently, the Chef thinks you would be good on the grinder. I must say, I agree with him. There is an apron over there for you. Yes. The one with “Beowolf” embroidered on it.

        • Keep in mind, the seven towers sit on (literally) what is called “Mount Babel”.

          • Kevin Nicholson

            “And again later, the destruction of Babylon is described as being absolute. Isaiah speaks of this event:

            “For I will rise up against them, says the Lord of hosts, and cut off from Babylon its name and remnant, and offspring and prosperity, says the Lord … I will sweep it with the broom of destruction” (Isaiah 12:15).”

            http://shoebat.com/2014/04/21/muslims-rebuild-tower-babel-shocking-research/

            This event would disrupt world markets and force nations to begin aligning as sheep vs goat accordingly….

          • Higlac

            Assuming that there’s a tower upon each hill (another thing that doesn’t fit with either Rome or Jerusalem as far as I can recall), is that to say that Mecca actually sits upon a conglomeration of hills which collectively end up called “Mount Babel”?

            For some reason, I had thought that the Tower of Babel was placed in the Iraqi plain watered (especially) by the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers (which for the last 30-40 kilometres – if I recall correctly – join and flow together as one river, the Shatt al-Arab).

            Have I misunderstood something??

        • Kevin Nicholson

          “…he who so hates Christians and Crusaders will thus help cause people to re-evaluate what the Crusades were all about…”

          “Put in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe.
          Come, tread, for the wine press is full; The vats overflow, for their
          wickedness is great. Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision! For the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.”
          Joel 3:13-14

          God bless the militant church to decide as He wills.

          Victory in Christ Higlac and others.

          • Higlac

            Careful please, Mr. Nicholson: there’s positively NO WAY that I (or any artefact of mine including pseudonyms and monikers) should be placed ANYWHERE NEAR to Christ (unless HE Decides otherwise)!!!!

          • Kevin Nicholson

            Higlac, corrected grammar. Peace in His Spirit.

          • Grandmere

            He gives grace to the humble, but resists the proud. Keep on doing what you are doing.

        • filomena seiffert

          Jesus was not crucified in Mca or Rome, it was Jerusalem where He was crucified.
          The world is full of evil leaders.

          • Higlac

            Ms. Seiffert:

            There is absolutely no question that Christ Was Crucified just outside of Jerusalem (at the “Place of the Skull”, which Golgotha means). [It’s absolutely obvious that He Did NOT Die in either Mecca or Rome – that’s plain.]

            Furthermore, there equally is no doubt that He Spoke of Jerusalem as the City That Kills the prophets (St. Matthew 23:37, St. Luke 13:34) – but that’s something that ANY city is amply capable of doing and has no doubt done (see how God Delivered Lot out of Sodom as they were on the point of doing the same to this nephew of Abraham)!!!

            What I’m querying (something I yesterday mentioned to Mr. Walid Shoebat) is if 1) Mount Babel (apparently upon which Mecca is located) would be anything like the same as the historical Tower of Babel (as far as I can tell, that isn’t necessary); 2) if Christ Will Return to Earth By Setting foot right in Babylon. That second statement is what unnerves me and no doubt enough others…

            Dear Ladies & Gentlemen, the very LAST thing I want to do IN THE SLIGHTEST is to foment a debate where people can and will rip each other to shreds over things that likely are among the most arcane imaginable – we’re supposed to WATCH and no doubt act accordingly (something so far which I’ve found myself desperately unable to do – I’m no better than standing on the track or road to be struck down by whichever vehicle is barrelling down upon it). [Not to mention that I’m no prophet nor saint: I’m just as sinful, wretched and EVIL as anybody else!!!!]

        • Lidia

          You are so smart Higlac, a genius. Since Mecca could be the city, because of so many good reasons and it has seven hills, how can it be a place where the prophets and saints were killed? Since some of the comments mentioned here are about San Francisco, what about Tel Aviv? This city plus it’s surrounding cities-Tel Aviv Metropolitan-is considered today as the Dan Region, or Gush Dan? This was the place where the Dan Tribe settled when the Israelites entered the Promised Land. Can he be born there and then move to the city of the Seven Hills? Read this article, click on the continue reading, on the bottom, to read the whole article. They have a June gay parade every year and I read somewhere that this year it will be in Jerusalem.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribe_of_Dan#/media/File:12_Tribes_of_Israel_Map.svg

          • Higlac

            Ah, dear Lidia: I’m NEITHER smart nor any genius whatsoever!!!!

            Prophets and saints can be – and are even now being – killed anywhere and everywhere upon this earth (please see my reply to Ms. Filomena Seiffert above), notwithstanding Christ’s Description of Jerusalem being particularly a city that is so accursed!!! This however begs the question if He Will Set His Feet in Babylon upon His Return??? While it’s amply possible (every last location on this planet is His to do with AS HE PLEASES!!!), it still sounds somehow less than probable. [In Zechariah 14:3-4, He’s Written about as Setting foot upon Mount Olivet, just a short distance away from the Old City in Jerusalem.]

            Again, is this something worth quarrelling over??? [And this notwithstanding that all those “Gay-Pride Parades” are an absolute ABOMINATION that God Almighty particularly ABHORS but which have already soiled so many cities worldwide!!!!]

          • Lidia

            Very much so about today’s saints being killed anywhere and everywhere but are they being killed in Mecca or were they killed in Mecca in the past? Non-Muslims today are not allowed to step foot into that city.
            Iraq or old Mesopotamia is a very interesting place and home to Sumer and Babylon. And, according to the Old Testament, Abraham came from the city of Ur, one of the 12 city-states in southern Mesopotamia. He later went to Canaan, today’s Israel, and settled there. I know you know this already.
            Once Baghdad was a flourishing city for the Jews and home to hundreds of thousands of Jews. They had a great life under the Persian Empire (except for the end) and later the Ottoman Empire. Now you can count on your fingers how many Jews are left in Baghdad. Christianity is gone from there too. Here is a good history lesson that I know you would appreciate since you love history. I found this history lesson very interesting myself.
            Today’s Persia–>Iran and today’s Ottoman–>Turkey/Saudi are fighting over Iraq. They battled each other in the past and now history is repeating itself. The U.S. and Israel are siding with Turkey/Saudi and Russia is siding with Iran/Syria. What do you think of that, Higlac? WW3 seems to have started already and if it gets worse, I’m sure all of the Middle East will be obliterated, including Israel. Today in the news, it looks like “they” have succeeded in convincing President Trump to distance himself from President Putin. Look at all the pressure he is getting from both parties and the stupid press. It seems like he is backing out on making peace with Russia. I hope and pray that President Trump will resist the pressure and try to make peace with Russia and help them fight ISIS so that peace can come to Syria and Iraq and the rest of the world.

            http://www.ajc.org/site/apps/nlnet/content3.aspx?c=7oJILSPwFfJSG&b=8482195&ct=12481123&notoc=1

          • Higlac

            Good point, dear Lidia regarding saints being killed in Mecca either in the past or nowadays: non-Moslems indeed are forbidden to set foot in that city. However, nothing stops them from going there in disguise (e.g., the explorer Sir Richard Francis Burton {1821-1890} did exactly that decked out as a pilgrim in 1853 {visiting both Mecca and Medina}); furthermore, there’s always the possibility of an inhabitant of Mecca (or Medina – which also is off limits to non-Moslems) secretly learning of and then converting to Christianity. [I’ve been reading rumours of a fair number of secret Christian converts liking in Saudi Arabia (where they have to be EXTRA-SECRET about who they are as they’re always subject to the death penalty in that country!!!!).]

            I’m inclined to doubt that Israel will be obliterated – if she were to so be, she would use her nukes to cause untold damage to her Arab and other Moslem neighbours. Most certainly (at least if the Marxist traitors in her don’t cripple her the way they’ve been doing to the rest of the West) she’ll not go down without a BIG fight!!! And yes, I’m indeed familiar with how Jews were expelled from Arab states like Iraq, Yemen, Syria et al when Israel was founded: none of those states wanted anything whatsoever to do with the people of a state that sprouted forth in direct contradiction to the Qur’ân and Hadith!!!!

          • “And I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.”

            It doesn’t say its the “place” “where the prophets and saints were killed”.

            Its the causer of such death of saints. Islam which came out of Arabia has killed more saints than any other entity in history.

          • Lidia

            Add Communists on top of that and you even have more deaths of saints. I’m not saying that Islam is not part of this. I totally agree with you about Islam.

          • Lidia

            Walid, I want to share this with you. I don’t know if you have this information already. It’s written by E.A. Bucchianeri.

            “Before the time Clovis came to power in the latter half of the 5th Century, Europe consisted of multiple tribal kingdoms and principalities, which included the land of the Franks (the future France). A number of these tribal kingdoms were still under pagan rule, while the majority of them were converting to Arianism, a heretical doctrine denounced centuries earlier at the first ever Ecumenical Council of the Church at Nicea 325 AD. The Arians believed that while Christ was the appointed saviour of mankind, they denied that He was of the same nature as God, declaring He was created. According to the Arians, Christ was nothing more than a highly favoured mortal man and was not divine. This reinterpretation of the Saviour was completely against the Traditional teaching of the Church upon which the Christian Faith rested, and was in fact considered an Antichrist doctrine, for according to the teachings of the Apostle St. John, those who attempted to deny the divine or the human nature of Christ were forerunners of the Antichrist, hence the condemnation of Arian doctrines by the Church. However, while the Council of Nicea declared that the divinity of Christ was an article of faith, the Arian heresy continued to spread rapidly as mentioned.”
            “Returning to Clovis I, although not an Arian, he was still a pagan who was married to the Roman Catholic princess of Burgundy, St. Clotilde. Despite her attempts to convert him, Clovis remained sceptical of the Christian faith until threatened with war and the loss of his kingdom to the Alemanni tribes near Cologne. As tradition states, he made a pact with Christ that if he won the battle, he would become baptised. He defeated the Alemanni and fulfilled his oath to become a Roman Catholic Christian. On his baptism Christmas Day 506 AD his conversion was sealed by a miracle ~ the Holy Spirit appeared in the form of a dove bringing sacred chrism for Clovis’ coronation and a lily from Heaven, a symbolic representation of the Trinity, the doctrine of which the Arians rejected. Henceforth the sign of the French monarchy became the Fleur-de-Ly.”
            “This miracle from Heaven was of paramount importance to the establishment of the kingdom for this was no mere recurrence of the conversion of the Emperor Constantine who only saw a cross in the sky. Clovis had received heavenly-made oil, his anointing mirrored the anointing of kings as seen in the Old Testament, such as King David’s anointing by the prophet Samuel and King Solomon by Zadok the priest.”
            “It further goes on in saying–“While Constantine was consecrated by St. Sylvester, and later Charlemagne by Pope Leo, throughout the history of the West, only Christ and Clovis are witnessed as being anointed by a literal epiphany of the Holy Spirit. The ‘Divine Right (of Kings)’ of all European monarchies has its origin in the anointing of Clovis. More than any other action, the baptism symbolised the fusion of Greco-Roman, German, and Judeo-Christian worlds in a new concept of universal empire… Clovis’ embracing of orthodox Roman Catholicism was a severe blow to the Arianism of Gaul (i.e. ancient France). The Frankish king’s profession (of faith) helped establish the primacy of the Bishop of Rome in matters Christian…The miracles do not cease there: according to tradition, from that day forward Clovis and his descendants were all empowered with many mystical gifts, including the gift of healing.”
            “Eventually, Clovis also defeated Alaric II, king of the Visigoths in 507 AD near Poitiers, and established Paris as the capital of his kingdom, thus uniting the lands that include most of present-day France and south-western Germany.”
            “In conclusion, the French monarchy, a blessed and divinely-favoured blood line, had saved Europe from perilous heresy and was paramount in establishing Roman Catholicism in Europe. According to the prophecies, the last of this favoured royal line would also come forth out of hiding in a miraculous manner to save Europe and the Church one last time before the appearance of the Antichrist.”

            Walid, sorry for the long comment. Who are the new Arians of Europe? Muslims!
            He will also defeat the Communists and the N*zis! Christendom will return, from East to West, North to South! Praise God!

          • Higlac

            Thank you so very much, dear Lidia, for posting this: it’s one more piece of the puzzle which I didn’t know previously.

          • Lidia

            Thanks Higlac, I love reading your comments. I think prophecy is like pieces of a puzzle and a lot of people here on this website, including you, help to put these pieces together to make this puzzle complete.

          • Lidia,

            These quotes comes from Bucchianeri’s Lord of The Rings.

            First you must establish that such a source is reliable before delving into analyzing them.

          • Grandmere

            Oh, yeah. He’s a real piece of work. ROFL

          • Lidia

            Walid, if you read this book that is in PDF form, the writer, E. A. Bucchianeri writes all his resources on the bottom of each page and at the end of his book. The story about Clovis I that I gave you is included. He had the resource book to back this story too. Some Catholics, like this writer, believes that this story was a miracle and others might call it a legend. I believe it was a miracle too. St. Remigius, the Bishop who baptized Clovis I was also a very interesting person too. There were many miracles surrounding him too. You can read these stories on Catholic websites.
            This book is about how Tolkien used historical events and prophecies to write his fictional story.

          • Lidia,

            Although I must admit I did not read this book, the issue you bring up is is this “legend” or “miracle”.

            I would hope its miracle, but I am open to also keep a careful mind that it could be ‘legend’.

            I believe that this issue was brought up here:

            So lets delve and seriously and thoroughly examine some of these prophecies in light of certain prophetic scale accepted by both Catholics and Protestants and in light of the Bible itself. One prediction states:

            “He [the great monarch] shall reign over the House of Agar, and shall possess Jerusalem.” (Isidore of Seville, 7th Century)

            So far so good, until we read one prophecy collector, Yves Dupont interprets:

            “The Jews will be converted and, after a short period, probably a few years, Christ will come down again and judge the nations”.

            This, they predict, will usher in what is termed as “an era of peace” and only then, after that era of peace is over, that the Antichrist will finally appear to be destroyed by Christ’s coming.

            While there is no doubt that God will raise “seven shepherds” (Micah 5) who will combat the “Assyrian” (Antichrist) and these will redeem many in Israel, but to think there is an “era of peace prior to the advent of Antichrist” should be questioned in light of crucial factors well etched and established in both scripture and by many other saints.

            First of all, we do not find anywhere in the whole of Scripture anything remotely close to “an era of peace” preceding the coming of Antichrist, where Israel is restored.

            This idea which states that Israel is restored by a monarch needs to be examines in light of scripture which clearly states:

            And so all Israel should be saved, as it is written: There shall come out of Sion, he that shall deliver [Israel], and [he Christ] shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob. (Romans 11:26)

            We find no monarch here, “All Israel should be saved” by Christ and this is preceded by the Church’s ultimate trial after “a religious deception” and “the falling away come first” which seems within sight more than “an era of peace”.

            Perhaps one might write-off this critique we just made here, but lest someone objects, it is not only the Bible which states this, but the Catechism of the Catholic Church itself does. Both agree, that only “Christ as king” is to be manifested in “the last days” and his recognition is by “all Israel”.

            Even St. Augustine confirms: “the Jews shall believe in the true Christ, that is, our Christ, thanks to this great and admirable prophet Elias …” St. Augustine confirms scripture which does not say what Dupont says.

            Also, we cannot, and should not, completely and strictly rely on everything we read on the internet and in ill-sourced books. It is this crucial problem that I see amongst many Christians, especially today. With many of these predictions, it is nearly impossible to even verify the authenticity of some quotes that are supposed to be about the ‘Great Monarch’. Many of the quotes mentioned in books and on websites about him do not give original sources.

            Even “Prophecy for Today” which many use as a source for these prophecies by Catholic Edward Connor, he agrees with my warning:

            “Public prophecy ceased with the death of St. John the Apostle. Private prophecy, even if received from God, is not reliable because the prophet is fallible. He can forget, misunderstand or misinterpret. Even when he does not err, those who hear him and who transmit the message can err“

            Not only can interpreters err, but Conner himself erred. One could find a multitude of unverifiable quotes in his book. For example:

            “The Great French Monarch, who shall subject all the East, shall come around the end of the world…. ” – St. Hyppolitus (235 AD)

            Not only that France as a nation did not exist in the 3rd Century AD, but Conner simply gives no source.

            Go ahead, try to hunt down this quote and you will never find it written in any historic reference. Many of the Great Monarch prophecies originate from a book titled “From Hell with Love” By Zak Portelli and even he failed to provide sources for some of these supposed ‘original quotes’.

            For another example “He shall inherit the Crown of the Fleur-de-Lis (Bishop Ageda, 12th Century)” is a quote which one cannot find a source from any credible reference.

            One needs to wisely sift. Indeed, the Jews will return in unbelief and while some Catholics object about establishing Israel, while Protestants claim that the popes have always been anti-Israel, this is not true. Popes unanimously agree Israel’s return is of God. For example, Pope Benedict XV (died 1922) and before Israel was established he correctly interpreted and predicted:

            “The return of the Jews to Palestine is the will of God, hence they will have to leave many countries.”

            “The Jews shall return to Palestine and become Christians toward the end of the world.” (Anne Catherine Emmerich, died 1824)

            The papacy always had a certain care for the Jewish people and Catholic history debunks the notion that the Catholic Church was anti-Semitic. We also do not find popes saying that we will have an “era of true peace” just before Antichrist comes. The Vatican’s position is clear on this issue.

            The impossible to answer Jesus-style question to many who solely focus on such prophecies is this:

            Which of the prophecies is true, the ones who say that the “Great Monarch” is French, German, Roman, Spanish, Bourbon, of the House of Habsburg, a descendant of Constantine, Charlemagne or King Louis IX, especially that these bloodlines are not the same?

            These rulers all belonged to different ethnicities, different races, different families, different countries, and possess different lineages.

            Whenever one find die speculation, one sees multitudes filled with a false hope.

            Always keep in mind that the bulk of these prophecies stem from when the claim was made by Saint Remigius, bishop of Reims and apostle of the Franks in 496 “vision” of the last monarch to descend from France. This prophecy was related through Hincmar (806-882), archbishop of Reims, and Rabanus Maurus Magnentius (780-856) O.S.B., archbishop of Mainz.

            However that may be, Marie-Julie Jahenny (1850-1941), also known as the “Breton” stigmatist, prophesied that Henry V, the Count of Chambord, was the chosen King. Yet despite his death, one of her predictions dated 1890 declares he is yet “reserved for the great epochs” (the end of time). So here we have a factor of human error.

            We must always keep a balance. For example, I have poured much effort in evaluating the works of Valtorta and wrote two articles one in favor and another in critique where I show how some of her ‘amazing finds’ can easily be obtained from other sources. While there are claims that Pope Pius XII approved Valtorta’s writings, this is questionable. Therefore, we should not take a dogmatic approach to certain seer or prophecies or interpreters or nuns lest we err in interpreting them or someone else erred in transmitting their predictions. Collectors err tremendously. For example, Dupont (who collects these prophecies) includes other serious contradictions to scripture. For example, he gives a supposed quote by Venerable Bartholomew Holzhauser:

            God will bind Satan for a number of years until the days of the Son of Perdition…there will be an ecumenical council which will be the greatest of all councils. By the grace of God, by the power of the Great Monarch, and by the authority of the Holy Pontiff [Angelic Pope], and by the union of the most devout princes, atheism and every heresy will be banished from the earth. The Council will define the true sense of Holy Scripture, and this will be believed and accepted by everyone (Dupont, p. 40).

            Contrary to this private prophecy, that satan is bound before all heresy is eliminated, in scripture Satan is never bound before the Son of Perdition come but strictly after. We find absolutely nothing (not a single verse) in scripture to support this conclusion.

            On the contrary, St. Bellarmine who did an entire essay on Antichrist, he correctly instructs never to proclaim such things. He refers to Second Thessalonians where God instructs:

            And then [after the falling away happens] that wicked one [Antichrist] shall be revealed whom the Lord Jesus shall kill with the spirit of his mouth; and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming, him, Whose coming is according to the working of Satan, in all power, and signs, and lying wonders … (2 Thess 2:8-9)

            “And then that wicked one shall be revealed”? This “then” comes right immediately after the great apostasy and there is no epoch of peace. It is strictly a falling away first and then immediately the Antichrist appears.

            Lets again examine:

            “God will bind Satan for a number of years until the days of the Son of Perdition”

            This goes contrary to Scripture which clearly states the devil is bound way after the Antichrist appears and is captured (see Apocalypse, 19:20-21; 20:1-2).

            We do not have two separate bindings of Lucifer. This alone puts a dent in all of these claims of an “era of peace” that supposedly comes before Antichrist shows up.

            And here is another danger. Such reliance on “an era of peace” would lax the saints to roam and be worry free like the virgin without oil to only be caught when the Bridegroom comes and be left out. This is a very serious issue to consider.

            Other problems can be found. It was the Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius, which shaped and influenced the bulk of these prophecies. St. Methodius was from the fourth century. So the prophecies would sound amazing especially that they mention a monarch (king) combating the Muslim world. Islam only appeared in the seventh century after Pseudo-Methodius was written. St. Methodius of Olympus of the fourth century never wrote the Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius which became heavily accessed by some seers.

            This takes the thunder of the miraculous factor of predicting Islam in many of these prophecies. Dupont for example whom I have poured much time into his works, I found grave errors. He naively credits prophecies to the fourth-century theologian St. Methodius of Olympus when in fact it was from the Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius (7th century). He wrote:

            St. Methodius. “A day will come when the enemies
            of Christ will boast of having conquered the whole
            world. They will say: ‘Christians cannot escape
            now!’ But a Great King will arise to fight the enemies
            of God. He will defeat them, and peace will be given
            to the world, and the Church will be freed from her
            anxieties.”
            So this would be another source where this “era of peace” was deduced: “peace will be given to the world”.

            But this was never uttered by St. Methodius. Pseudepigrapha are falsely-attributed works, texts whose claimed author is not the true author, or a work whose real author attributed it to a figure of the past.

            Such mistakes are not only done by Catholics. Many pre-tribulation evangelical Protestants who use Pseudo-Ephraem which also relies upon the Pseudo-Methodius to prove a ‘pre-tribulation rapture’ when in reality neither Methodius or Pseudo-Ephraem ever mention anything about a pre-tribulation rapture. Yet so many books are written on the subject and people consume them to no end believing they will vanish before WWIII erupts.

            Scripture clearly speaks of a false peace (not an era of peace) which is established after some turmoil by Antichrist, not a monarch. Therefore, be careful lest you fall for the Antichrist believing he is the monarch.

            We ought to ask: isn’t the world today calling for peace between Shiite and Sunni? Isn’t Erdogan of Turkey approaching the Jews and just made a deal with them on cooperation becoming the defender of Gaza and for benefits from the Mediterranean he already made a pact with Israel? Isn’t the world tired of ISIS and here comes Erdogan promising to restore peace? Isn’t the world crying for peace and the end of bloodshed? Doesn’t scripture tell us that when the world says “peace and safety” is when “sudden destruction comes”? Therefore, this “era of peace” is dangerous for it is built on false hope.

            Another danger is this: imagine if a nationalist arises in Europe (altra-nationalists are already arising in Europe) and alongside stands a bad pope. A multitude of Catholics would gladly follow them believing them to be the ‘great monarch’ and the ‘angelic pope’. After all, Antichrist comes after (not before) the great monarch. So we still have time to be merry. But as it turns out, these (as Paul warned in 2 Thess 2) are agents of Antichrist or are even “the beast” and “the false prophet,” who will lead these souls to hell, while the true Christ who later comes to combat them is viewed as the Antichrist.

            This is why doctrine is the scale and not prophecy. The Catholic Church today is not the same as it was during Pope Pius XII during Hitler. God forbid in the future the Vatican embraces more Protestantism to accept a Protestant tyrant from Germany and then we have a German Antichrist whom we think is the “great monarch”. Catholics and Protestants should remain miles apart when it comes to the mixing of what each considers essential theology.

            Remember Christ said to be like the five wise virgins, to be prepared and be ready for His coming and not the coming of another (unless they are the two witnesses). So then here comes Christ to find the five slumbering virgins instead are standing on the wrong side of the fence and then He shuts the door.

            virgins9
            Left: Bad Virgins. Right: Good Virgins. Choose your virgins wisely
            Christ warned of this. Keep in mind, the two witnesses will come and be martyred teaching true doctrine. These two do not come in an “era of peace” but turmoil. Scripture also speaks of seven shepherds and eight principled men. There is no doubt that we will have a “monarch” or even perhaps “seven” or “eight” leaders who will devastate the Antichrist, but this will occur after, not before, the falling away, and during when the man of sin is revealed immediately. Few of these prophecy books focus on Micah 5:5 which is clear as to when this peace happens:

            And this man [Messiah] shall be our peace, when the Assyrian [Antichrist] shall come into our land, and when he shall set his foot in our houses: and we shall raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men.

            The “peace” will only and strictly occur after the seven shepherds are led by Christ Himself. It is only then will they defeat the Antichrist in Israel. It is only then “this man [Messiah] shall be our peace“.

            This is not established by a monarch who brings a pre-peace.

            It is crucial to also keep in mind, that while these saints are approved saints by the Vatican, this is not the issue here. The issue is that Catholics should not put stock in all the claims and quotes made in the name of such saints, many of which collections are not verified or are approved by Rome or might have been wrongly interpreted.

          • Lidia

            Walid, so what you are saying is that the Crusades and Christendom will not come until after Jesus returns and not before? Then I misunderstood Ted.
            Were these previous Catholic European kings who saved Europe from Arianism and Islamism and other heresies ever mentioned in the Bible? Just curious. If I ignore every single catholic prophecy, which won’t be hard, it’s not hard to figure out that we are heading towards a dangerous future and the extinction of native Europeans, destruction of all the churches and the Vatican in Rome-(if Jesus doesn’t come soon). I know the Catholic Church will be the only church that survives, I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes underground and the pope exiled. Christendom cannot exist TODAY without an earthly king and a heavenly king, history proved it. I am talking about an “Absolute” king. This book further talks about this. Not all the kings were good, we all know that, but the ones that were good became our heroes. If it wasn’t for all the previous Catholic European kings (and Orthodox kings) and their brave armies, we would all be Muslims today. They protected the Church. You saw what happened to the Christians in the Middle East and Constantinople. And also think about the falling away too.
            When Jesus comes, we will not need an earthly king anymore. Jesus will be our final King.
            I know what you are saying about being cautious. That’s why it’s very important to pray daily and have a strong faith in God. If you do this, then it won’t be hard to figure out who the antichrist is.
            If you didn’t read this whole book, maybe you should (it won’t hurt), you can skip over the parts about “The Lord of the Rings” and the Great Monarch and just read a little bit of French HISTORY. It talks about the Freemasons and their role in the French Revolution and how the revolutionists destroyed the Holy Ampulla. How symbolic is that! They broke it into pieces but later these pieces were saved. They burned down churches, murdered priests, nuns and the people who supported the church and king. History repeated itself in Russia. Look at what happened afterwards and the “errors” that were spread throughout the world.
            This book also has a lot of great pictures too. I didn’t read this whole book to the end yet. Maybe a little over half way.
            Walid, I will not bother you any more about this. I thought history was important too, not just the Bible. I looked at both.
            I guess I misunderstood you too.

          • Well Lidia we just have to be careful. If France produces someone like LePen and we rush to think they are the Monarch and err, it would be a catastrophe.

            “I know the Catholic Church will be the only church that survives, I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes underground and the pope exiled. ”

            No. The Catholic Church will fall away. This is written in Scripture. There will always be a remnant.

            “Walid, I will not bother you any more about this. I thought history was important too, not just the Bible. I looked at both.
            I guess I misunderstood you too.”

            You hardly bother me Lidia. I enjoy the exchange.

          • Lidia

            Thanks Walid, you’re a good friend.

          • Your welcome Lidia. I actually like reading your posts and the prophecies. Even if at times I am not sure if some of them are authenticated or not. It helps me research them. Glad we are friends sister Lidia.

        • Julie

          Thank you to someone who personally knows geography.

      • infowolf1

        Jerusalem is called Sodom where The Lord was crucified. Babylon is something different, but it isn’t Rome. Vatican hill is outside the old and new city limits, and not one of the seven hills of Rome.

        • Higlac

          While the Vatican hill is indeed NOT one of the Seven Hills of Rome, the city limits of Rome do completely enclose Vatican City as being inside it (Rome).

          • filomena seiffert

            Higlac you are so so erudict, so sophisticated and your manners are spotless. God has give you many gifts. What a blessing

          • Higlac

            WHO CARES that I be “erudite, sophisticated and of spotless manners”??? EVERYTHING, absolutely EVERYTHING yours truly has is but VANITY and FILTHY RAGS!!!! This “plane” is just waiting to crash and burn.

            Truly, God Have Mercy upon me, as wretched and deserving of perdition as anybody else… And May He Take Pity upon all of us and this planet.

          • filomena seiffert

            You are so humble, the most desirable virtue a human can posses.I admire your virtues and knowledge. I am sure you are very loved by God. I confused Babylon with Sodom. Infowolf made me aware of it.

          • Higlac

            Thank you. I’m trying to work on my virtues; however, yours truly is all too aware that pride (not to mention all the other sins, deadly and otherwise) is all too present inside of me – I have a dreadfully long way to go to fight it!!!

            Truly, I dread God’s Punishment (yet still not enough…).

    • Methusalem

      I had a dream last night, I don’t remember exactly what, but I was telling or arguing about Rev 17. Amazing!

      I think the Europeans are playing “good cop bad cop” with the Turks. They all seem to have the same Antichrist agenda. I don’t know whether Vatican had joined them. After all the extremly hateful insults Turkish politicians are spewing against Europeans, Boris the blond Turk was there a couple of days ago to meet Erdogan the wild donkey, again.

    • Julie LaBrecque

      Of course, they never accuse Rome of being the City set one Hill.

      • Tom_mcewen

        Good one, that is true. But they know the Pope sits on a mountain of gold like a black SJ spider. What fun to be the Antichrist, without even having to take an exam. Listen to Grace Slick, Dreams, that is good

  • Grace Ziem

    I thought Erdogan sounded somewhat unnerved. Walid, don’t get too upset by those silly “EU antichrist” articles; they couldn’t possibly be serious Bible readers! The point is for us to enlighten, not bash, each other. Blessings (enjoy the last few weeks before Erdogan tries to steal Easter joy; more of Satan’s cruel humor…)

    • “don’t get too upset by those silly “EU antichrist” articles”

      Perhaps you didn’t delve into these much? I have. They are a majority in the Evangelical circles.

      • Grace Ziem

        Really? There aren’t any in my church, thanks to your work there. You left a permanent blessing for our pastor and over 2000 members.

        Maybe you mean certain website commenters. I think Christ wants us to spread the word on this issue as we do with other things related to His kingdom. It is easy to feel weary with this task at times, but I will keep you in my prayers. You have been given a great mission. Keep the faith, brother!

        • Thank you Grace.

          Although me and you agree on much (except Luther) whom I hate. I really hate Luther Grace. The guy was a scum-bucket. Your’e welcome to try to heal me from my hatred of Luther. I am always open minded.

          Grace, I do not think you fully comprehend how much hate there comes from Protestants against the Catholic Church that was caused by Luther. I guarantee it that if you fully comprehended it, that you would turn Catholic. Hating Catholics is the ONLY accepted prejudice.

          I never knew that I spoke in your church. Where and when?

          Did we meet?

          • Grace Ziem

            Yes, you spoke about Islam in my church (I don’t want to list the church on the website because my pastor has had some threats with his subsequent stands on Islam).
            I bought your books and video and my life and the church’s has never been the same. About 7 years ago, I think. I don’t mind risking myself, because if I go to heaven earlier, it’s no problem for me, but the congregation needs that pastor.
            I didn’t know much when we met, but God sent you there for sure!

          • Grace,

            If my books made a dent with Prophecy, why are our writings here not making a dent on your love for Luther?

          • Grace Ziem

            I don’t really feel love for Luther, but perhaps that’s a Christian failing….

      • Dan

        Walid, you are right as far as evangelical sites go but have you tried spreading your knowledge about this there?

        With your knowledge about what is truly being said in revelation ; you can at least make some evangelical’s think about it.

        • Dan,

          I made 3000 flights by jet to spread this truth. I got tired living in a sardine can (jet plane) pulling on luggage where the wheels fell off.

          • Kamau41

            That’s a lot a traveling, but the fruits of your labor has been and will continue to pay off beyond measure.

            Also, Trevor wanted me to let you know that he can’t wait to get back to rowing with us again soon.

          • Grandmere

            “he’ll be baaaack”. Better than ever!

          • Kamau41

            He will indeed!!

          • Thanks 41. We live to serve this ship. Tell Trevor that when he comes back to the ship that I will break both his legs and then chain him so that he rows well 😉

          • Julie LaBrecque

            Me too? Scary!

          • Grandmere

            I’m sure he has special plans for you. ROFL

          • Julie LaBrecque

            He might think lightening hit – thanks for clean floors.

          • Grandmere

            Put your apron on and start a fresh batch of hot sauce, sis. I guess the last ten days of Lent are gonna be behind a hot stove. Silly me. I thought I was gonna get forty days off.

          • Kamau41

            LoI;) I will deliver him the message.

          • Dan

            Walid, I understand you’ve been spreading your knowledge for decades but have you taken the time to do it online other than this site; that is what I’m saying.

            Have you tried going to other sites that are not Catholic, because your knowledge about some verses in scripture and its interpretation is not well known in evangelical circles.

            Case in point is your interpretation of revelation chapter 17.

            All of christendom is teaching it is rome ; in literature and TV and no one is teaching it is saudi arabia.

            I believe the gulf between evangelicals and catholics is primarily because of rev. ch 17 and you can correct that by taking the time to go to other evangelical sites and showing them the correct interpretation of Rev 17.

          • Cuzick

            Dan , it’s the pastors that won’t embrace his interpretations. Too much pride to humble themselves to admit they are wrong and not willing to acknowledge the history and truth in Apostolic Succesion Churches .

          • Strange you bring that up Cuzick. I should write a whole book on just “pastors”. Boy do I have stories to tell.

            I once was invited to speak to a pastors gathering, 500 pastors in all. I started my speech about the persecution of Christians and how we began an effort to rescue Christians. I had told them that I had spoken to thousands of other pastors on the subject and how not one (NO NOT ONE) have supported our efforts. I had even predicted during the speech that not one of them would support our efforts. Guess what. Not one came through.

            I used to go to all these churches and tell them. Not once did a pastor come through.

            There is one. Only one. A pastor named Cuzick. He was like me, a strange fella, but humble and kind and he keeps his word. He is the only one.

            LONG LIVE CUZICK.

          • Cuzick

            Reflecting back thru my 54 years on this earth, trying to navigate the narrow path that leads to life everlasting while living in the midwest , I have an understanding of why the Lord called Mr. Shoebat and family as his servants to bring the correct Bible Prophecy interpretation. Because of the stubborn pride of church leadership, weak men who think they are ” pastors ‘and divisions in the churches of the West, God had to raise up a man with the same mind set and temperment from the ancient Middle East where the Prophets, Apostles and Church Fathers originated from to bring an end to the confusion.
            Think about how God brought Mr. Shoebat , born in the Palestinian West Bank to an American mother, rejecting Islam to became a follower of Christ by reading a KIng James Bible [ thank you for you persistence Mrs. Shoebat ] to the place of unlocking Bible Prophecy by the leading of the Holy Spirit.
            Having been around and in a position of leadership within a local church for the past 30 years, i can imagine the resistance you have had to endure in pursuing and proclaiming Truth revealed. Only you and your family know of the tremendous sacrifice required to answer this call the Lord has placed upon the family.
            Despite the rebellion or stupidity of those men who rejected the correct interpretations ,as revealed by the Holy Spirit to you, your efforts are not in vain. Many lives have been and will be touched and changed because of your love and commitment. I gave a young man Gods War On Terror to read that was lacking some clarity of purpose in life. After reading your book , a new passion for God and life was found.
            Thank you for your commitment to your calling and the courage to press on in the face of relentless opposition from the evil one and his minions.
            May the Lord continue to bless Shoebat,com and Rescue Christians.

          • “I have an understanding of why the Lord called Mr. Shoebat …”

            Honestly the phone never rang once. I did not get a call from God. I am from Bethlehem and while the call would be local I simply saved the coin, paid Him a visit and we spoke in person. It was a lot cheaper.

          • Cuzick

            You are a humble man. It’s a shame some of those “pastors” from previous engagements did not “glean” some humility from you along with your work.

          • Dan

            Cuzick, I have to admit in my 50yrs on earth I’ve never heard anyone say Rev ch 17 is talking about Saudi Arabia and for me it means a lot because it puts the Catholic church in a different light altogether.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            As Jesus suffered slander, so will His Church. As Jesus was spit on, so will happen to His Church. As Jesus declared Himself to be Truth Be was mocked, so too His Church. Everybody thought their boat would survive the floor – only those on Noah’s ark survived.

          • Cuzick

            Yes, with putting Saudi Arabia in the proper place in prophecy changes everything in the western interpretations. If protestants have to admit their error in naming the Catholic Church as antiChrist because of the correct prophecy interpretation, what else will have to change in their thinking ?

          • “Have you tried going to other sites that are not Catholic, because your knowledge about some verses in scripture and its interpretation is not well known in evangelical circles.”

            O yes I did. I used to get up at the wee hours of the night to do interviews. Radio and TV became a drag after a while. Thousands of interviews that would cross a Rabbis eyes.

            I finally had to drop it. Too tired. Too exhausted.

            So I built a trough for the sheep called Shoebat.com.

            They come in here daily to graze and drink. Sheep and goat, camels and ox. All sorts of creatures including domesticated boars who stink up the farm. We pray for them to convert to sheep.

            I even have this guy Dan who comes in here. Nice guy. I like him. We had a fist fight once and drank a beer afterwards, We’re still friends. LONG LIVE DAN. LONG LIVE DAN.

          • Dan

            Walid, I spent some time Sunday looking at your past interviews and Ted’s too but I’ve missed the interview of you telling an evangelical Rev 17 is not talking about Rome.
            If there is one I would like to see it.

            Alright, so the next time the issue of Rev ch 17 comes up on an evangelical site ; I’ll let you know so you can go there online ; as yourself or anonymously ; to teach the correct interpretation of who the woman in purple is . Sounds like fun; right ! : )

          • Grandmere

            It might be fun for you, but it happens so often it would kill the Chef. Maybe you can “go there online ( as yourself or anonymously)” and give them the correct interpretation. Why do you need someone else to do your work for you?

          • Dan

            I’m talking to Walid ;find someone else to argue with.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            That just happens to be one of my buddies – we are family around here.

          • Cuzick

            Dan, if you have not read Gods War On Terror yet please do. Also get Christianity Is At War. After reading these books you will not be the same .

          • Dan

            I will ck them out thank you.

          • Julie LaBrecque

            The ‘gulf’ exists because sheep have strayed and become their own shepherds. The Catholic Church is THE CHURCH, of which scripture States is the ‘ pillar and bulwark’ of truth 1 Tim 3:15.

          • Dan

            The gulf exist for many reason including the RCC . All of us ;everyone; are fulfilling the state of the church in the end of days.

        • Kamau41

          He has been doing it for the past 20+ yrs.

  • infowolf1

    I hope that if war comes the prots won’t be siding with the Turks and being a fifth column in Europe. there are probably not that many left who are serious about their faith Europe being spiritually a mess but could be enough to be a problem.

    • There will be all sorts who will join Antichrist from Catholic anti-Semites and Degrelists to Protestants. If it says “deceive the very elect if …” its serious business.

  • Kamau41

    Truly, Erdogan(the devil) certainly does sound so much like the typical ‘left behind’, prophecy buffs, anti-Catholic/Pope, and Crusaders crowd. With this, it’s so easy to perceive why so many will be joining and following the Antichrist.

  • magaforever

    Here it comes…i wonder what idiot theory alex jones will try to spin this anti catholic crap into.. They all better open up their eyes and join the coming crusade before its too late

  • Marie Halligan

    Considering the vast majority of Turkey’s land mass isn’t even in Europe,but in Asia, Turkey had a cheek to even expect to be considered to join the EU! I was shocked when I found out that anyone would think it remotely acceptable.Now he’s throwing a tantrum because he wasn’t invited to a meeting he’s got no business being at anyway! He is obviously a narcissist, an egotist and has a temper and considering the power he has, this makes him a likely candidate for an anti-Christ.

  • Doc

    Bottom line: even if you are not Catholic or Eastern Orthodox how can you in good conscience side with a Trinity-hating Muslim versus a Christian denomination that you have a few disagreements with?

    • Flame blue

      Ok Doc, answer is you cannot as a Christian side with a Trinity Hating Muslim against Christian Roman Catholics. Let me say this right now, if my church Presbyterian goes against RC Christians and sides with Muslims, then it’s
      ” goodbye from me”, and l will be forced to come to the Roman Church. I will never take part in Confession sessions or call the priests Father, but l will listen to the Gospels, take communion, sing hymns.

      • Tom_mcewen

        You can’t take communion if don’t do confession because you will take it as an unworthy person, the priest is empowered to a grant you grace, so communion is not isolated from the church but the axis which everything is interconnected too. Sorry, the church is a tapestry, pulling a single thread destroys it all. It is an all or nothing church that is why you take classes for a year then reject it all or take it all. While we have those born into the church It is still not honorable to be a cafeteria catholic.

        • Flame blue

          I do make confession to Yahweh-Jesus. He is the highest priest as well as God.

          I wouldn’t make theological conditions, or state any conditions.

          The Church is not built on sand but on a rock ( Peter who was Jesus’ rock) so it cannot be destroyed like a Tapestry, l believe!

          I am a fundamental spiritual Christian, so don’t pick and choose, but l can separate liturgy from Christian life. Worshiping Jesus with other Christians is my inclination given to me by God. I care about God’s people, the congregations and the overall congregation of the Christian Church in its totality. I hope that other Christians would care about me and Jesus would desire that too, without any doubt.

          • Tom_mcewen

            Who is Yahweh? An invention of protestants claiming to be pre -330BC Jews in fact they would have to be pre-babylon Hebrews, I hate that crap, I know God’s secret name. The church is both the pillar and foundation of truth and the body. Go your own way, no problem. But 47900 churches from one in 1417AD I think is the basis of your Theology. I will stick with what has worked.

          • Flame blue

            The name God gave to me to use is ” I AM”. However, our God is Yahweh. He is the God of Abraham, Isacc, Jacob, Moses, Ezekiel, Daniel, and the other Biblical Prophets. He is the Creator of all people. The Jews do not put vowels in the name.

            That name is not an invention of Protestants! I emphasised at a prayer meeting to my Presbyterian brothers the name Yahweh, to indicate who there God is, our Father, because one of the group was influencing others to perceive God as the god that Muslims worshiped. On mentioning the name Yahweh, the murmer went through the group. The brother who was influencing the others said to one who has a doctorate of divinity and theology ” who’s Yahweh, that’s not our God”. He replied ” shhhh, yes, that’s our God!” So, like yourself, Presbyterians are not familiar with that name.

            I have not asked you to dislodge from your church. I wonder if you are aware that priests from the Church of England are now priests in the Roman Catholic Church. Your Church received them when they left the Church of England after a dispute. No problem, except your RC Church did not demand that the divorced or abandoned their wives! So, you now have married priests in your Church!

          • Tom_mcewen

            We have always had married priests in the Catholic churches, it is only in the Roman rite that we don’t. It is not dogma that priests cannot be married it is a discipline. I stand by my statement this Yahweh stuff is primitive voodoo, it is using God’s name to control God, no different then this holding your mouth a certain way and saying the protestant secret words to be saved, it is voodoo to think you control God’s will to judge you and that just by believing you are saved , you are actually being saved. Read some 20th century protestant Theologians especially the Germans and the French. God gets smaller and smaller, some get rid of God entirely. A protestant Theologian is a fashion show, each comes up with a flashy and original garment that impresses everyone, in five years it is faded and torn and it does, time for a new protestant fashion show, over and over, Yahweh is just another fashion show, flashy but now faded and already past it’s sell by date.

          • Flame blue

            I told you that most Protestants do not use the name Yahweh, but you should know this is your God from the first Covenant and the second Covenant. There is no third Covenant! The character of God is Yahweh who is Jesus!

            When you described flashy garments displayed by priests in church, you definitely weren’t describing anything other than Roman Catholics or High Church of England. One thing for sure, we don’t have fashion, the minister ( God’s priest) wears a black suit with a white collar and his attire is much the same as his ancient predecessors.

            God cannot be controlled and using the name Yahweh is not a means to control him. One needs to use some form of a name when debating. For example l say to muslims ” there is no God but Yahweh and Jesus is his messenger”. My point is not that Jesus is just a prophet and messenger! My point is why do converts to Islam have to say ” there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger” . So, l frequently need to use the name Yahweh! In private l do not, but if communicating to the confused who are saying that Allah is the same God as Christians and Jews worship, l dispute that point! The character of Allah does not point to the God of the Old Testament. Plus appeasing Muslims and saying ” yes, it’s the same God” means that the Muslims will tell you with that your acknowledgement means you are now obligated to take the Quran revelation of a third Testament. If Yahweh is Allah, Muslims would not persecute Jews and Christians, but they know he’s not, and they operate a deception to trick for their purpose!

            You of course, when dealing with you, it’s different from dealing with Muslims, but l am thinking ” maybe not a lot” for you say what they say ” your church is corrupt, your Bible corrupted, you are in error and not worshipping God in the right way.”

            God bless you Tom.

  • “However, I do not any who go around bashing Catholics nor espousing an anti-Vatican, Pope is the anti-Christ agenda. I don’t doubt there are some around but I haven’t met any as yet.”

    O please. Stop jotting a line that takes a book to prove is false. Just go take a look at Ashiz’s comment and see how they bash Catholics. I get comments EVERY SINGLE day bashing Catholics. I do not have time for nonsense that I have written on oodles of articles which you can find and try to refute.

    • Grandmere

      Hot tubs and pina coladas do strange things to people. Some have been known to drown.

      • Стефан Евгений

        HA!…. you made me laugh like Putin.

  • You have assumed I am not critical of the Pope. You have also addressed issues not in the article. Why change the subject?

    • filomena seiffert

      You are correct, we should not be judging the pope. Jesus did not entrust him to us, instead, He entrusted us to the pope. If he do wrong, there is already One who judges him, Jesus Himself

  • Flame blue

    Right Walid the fact is if German Protestants were in league with Erdogan they would fast track Turkey into the EU, but they and others you call anti-Catholic are out meeting with the Pope at the Vatican, filling Erdogan with madness and anger.

    Obviously Turkey cannot be admitted into Europe because it does not allow Christians to freely worship in Turkey, and it is interfering with what Christian doctrine can be taught in the churches under Islamic control, plus hiring and firing and possibly murdering the Christian priests there. Erdogan also has multiple human rights violations in pretence and defence of him and Turkey.

    Erdogan does plan without doubt a political and spiritual position for to profit his purpose of controlling muslims in Europe and the more refugees he can force on Europe, the better chance he has of conquering Europe.

  • BC

    Hahaha…i actually expected him to speak the English too. “Maybe that will be one of his miracles.” I actually think he fits that missing face in that one picture with UN background, shadowed out silhouette of a man, & a question mark just perfect.

  • Filip

    Which part of – No Arab will pitch his tent there.. indicates it is Rome? Arabs don’t pitch tents in Rome, they do however pitch tents in Mecca and Medina.

  • Dominus

    You are damn right Erdodog, that it will be an alliance of crusaders, just not consisting of all of 27 of them EU states, I’m affraid, and that only after alot of suffering and innocent blood being spilt, a real refinement by God.

  • AnthonyM

    Interesting info on Erdogan. He seems almost paranoid, possibly a guilty conscience? He will say more in the future. But his followers will be happy if he rejects membership in the EU and creates an ‘EU’ for Islam.

  • Grandmere

    Don’t you think it would be wise for the Pope to see what these leaders are thinking? Tens of millions of lives hang in the balance.

    • Raph Sebastian

      Why dear sister…why do you try to reach out to these utter morons who have nothing but hate? Do you honestly think they will change? Will they give up decades of bad mouthing, slander and rote learnt lies to think for themselves?

      They will not care to see that the Pope is first of all a shepherd who needs to protect his flock, all 1.3 billion Catholics worldwide. He sees the turmoil, he sees the persecution and the murder and martyrdom of Catholics in the Middle East, in Africa, in Asia and throughout the world.

      Short of calling for a a new Crusade, which I think he will not do in his papacy, but I do not remove the possibility of the future pope doing so, he can use diplomacy to help protect his flock.

      You are right, not wanting to create a situation where millions of lives are at stake, he wants to listen to what these leaders have to say. But the moron that you replied too will not see this. These are the ones with full gullibility join the anti-Christ because they are blinded by their hate.

      • Grandmere

        I’m trying to make them THINK. Plain and simple.

        • Raph Sebastian

          If thinking was a possibility, they wouldn’t be posting the drivel they do! 😛

  • Grandmere

    I wasn’t a history buff when I was seven, but by the time I was seventeen I was a dyed in the wool history fanatic. People spend time learning about their interests or their necessities. It’s time to hit Youtube if nothing else and stop expecting Walid and Higlac to do it for you.

  • Grandmere

    Could it be that he is a Jesuit spy, learning their plans after they let down their guards?

  • Elvin Lopez

    Turkey is joining russia in the invasion of israel together with iran and gomer Germany after merkel leave and the AFD win the elections Grrmany is going to tilt towards russia also arab countries are going to be outraged with the annexation of the eternal city of the bible Jerusalem so Turkey biblically speaking is ti be defending Al-aqsa from the Jews so we protestants are not with the turks we are with the Jews and the holy city of Jerusalem will be the Capital of the world during 1000 years and beyond and Jesus himself will be our Sheppard not the pope so his intermediate duty is about to be vacant soon wait till the temple is stablish in Jerusalem where the lord is going to sit as King of Kings and lord of lords. 1 Timothy 2: 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

    6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

    • Can you scholarly justify how you concluded that Gomer = Germany?

      • Tom_mcewen

        I thought Gomer’s last name was Pyle USMC, so it Germany, who would have thunk it.

        • Grandmere

          Shazam !!!

          • Grand. How many times I told you to stop reading the Quran?

            Isn’t this Abra Kadabra Allah Shazam from the Quran?

        • Cuzick

          Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!

    • Cuzick

      Please read Gods War ON Terror brother.

  • Thank you Ted. Thank you for your encouraging line.

  • That is a possibility New Man. But it might be after the E.U collapses that new alliances will form with Turkey and certain Northern European states. Time will tell and we must be patient. Patience is measured in decades.

  • “I’ll indulge you for one last comment.”

    I am touched, one last comment from Christ is King. Just one?

    But that is not the only reason why I am touched.

    “On the subject of the Super Bowl, the pope doesn’t mention Christ by name or God in general once. He promoted a pagan event (that promotes untold evils) with no mention of God. If this doesn’t raise a ‘red flag’ for you, I question your discernment brother.”

    What the Pope does is not my fault Christ is King.

    “The pope condemns populism while using populism for his own ends. (That is if he even is the pope.”

    I liked what the Pope said about Populism. Maybe I was in error. I am not so sure. When you say that he is using populism for his own end, I am not sure what you mean by that.

    “There are claims that Benedict XVI is the true pope.”

    liked Benedict’s honesty when he exposed the Arab Bishops. I believe that he was persecuted by wolves. Francis is definitely not he same metal as Benedict.

    “We aren’t God and can’t know either way for sure until the whole truth comes to light.”

    Amen.

    “Yes, you have critiqued the pope in the past. That was before he tickled your ears with condemnations of populism.”

    I guess your right. He did tickle my ears. Perhaps I need to scratch my ears and move on. My wife is making an appointment with the ear doctor to remove the ear wax that has built up through the years. Lets see if that helps.

    ” You have admitted that there are two things you hate more than anything, homos and nazis.”

    Now you know why I am touched. You remember what I said. You know what I love and what I hate. You are witty Christ is King. But keep in mind, Nazism crept in the Church. Holocaust denial also crept, especially amongst the traditionalists.

    This is a huge problem Christ is King. What must we do about that? Francis would not approve of this. So there is something good about Francis,

    “My point, as a charity, is don’t let your hatred for nazis blind you from the obvious.”

    Okay. I shall listen to your charitable advise Christ is King.

    “Francis, the man who claims to hate populism, has been using populism is entire papacy to lead Catholics into error.”

    Okay. I heard a statement here. But how do you validate it?

    “Catholics need to continue to view Francis with an eye of caution at the very least.”

    Okay. I shall try Christ is King.

    “The Catholic Church will prevail. Christ Himself has declared it.”

    Amen. But in the meanwhile, will you stand with me to fight the enemies?

    “He said the gates of hell won’t prevail against the Church. He never said that the gates of hell won’t be ‘opened.’ He said they won’t prevail.”

    Amen.

    “The Church is bigger than a single pope.”

    Amen.

    “The Church will survive the Francis deception. You never know, Francis might even experience a conversion of heart before his day is done and renounce and repent for his grave errors (to date)”

    You even love the Pope and I can tell you even pray for him.

    Do not blame me for loving the Pope.

    “Heed my warning or ignore it. The warning has been given.”

    I heed all warnings Christ is King. I am no island.

    “May God continue to bless you and your work Mr. Shoebat.”

    And you as well my brother and friend.

    • Grandmere

      Whew! Sometimes, even as stinky road kill, I am glad to be Anglican.

      • “I am glad to be Anglican.”

        At the end of the day you know these days its all the same garbanzo beans going through the same grinder.

  • Carlos,

    C’mom Carlos lighten up. I never once wrote:

    “every Protestant hates Catholics”.

    Where did I ever say that?

    C’mon man.

    • Carlo Favetta

      🙂
      You didn’t say that, and neither did I.
      I pray that we can heal old wounds and deep suspicions. God bless

      • You didn’t say that”

        Thats correct.

        “and neither did I”

        C’mon man. You did:

        “Not every Protestant thinks the way you think we think.”

        I never thought that every Protestant thinks the way I think they think which you pertained that I knew how they think I think that they think which now you say that you did not say that I think which you did say that I think they think

        🙂

  • Julie LaBrecque

    Slander puts you in hell.

  • Julie LaBrecque

    And Orthodox said better the turban than the tiara

  • Grandmere

    I’ll guarantee you, Obama has a suite reserved in Erdogon’s Presidential Palace.

  • They get their noses out of joint is because most of them are raised in well fenced American farms where they get fed whatever is put for them in square troughs. You and I were raised on patches of grass surrounded by packs of wolves in sheep clothing.

  • Kamau41

    “Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord”.

  • Craig A. Mouldey

    Erdogan is blowing smoke to increase his stature before his worshippers, er I mean subjects. Crusaders at the Vatican? Those crusaders kicked God out. Only weeks ago Erdogan was again blowing smoke against Netherlands and Germany, calling them Nazi’s. Was he giving them a compliment? Turkey had no problem with Nazi’s in the past. They were good pals. Almost like twins.

  • Flame blue

    Thank you for your response.

    I know that l don’t need to confess to anyone but God, so l never will, and l know he hears me. He and l, like it that way, it suits us!

    Jesus has never personally directed me to confess errors, sins etc to priests, ministers and fellow Christians. I do not dispute anything in the Gospels, but l have no need to take any confession to someone other than God. However, if a Christian doubts God hears him/her, then l guess they have a need to go through a priest to deliver their confession!

    In any case, l would be such a boring person to priests, because all l have to confess is the odd grumpy response to my spouse which l thought was deserved, but maybe wasn’t.

    We are not meant to be sinners, we are cleansed, but must occasionally repent or apologise if our high standards drop. If we are doing sins, like drugs, or alcohol abuse, maybe adultery or immoral behaviour, stealing, lying, etc, we are abusers of God’s mercy to us, using Jesus as a licence to sin and that has to be very offensive behaviour towards God. We would need to stop that and repent, not keep repeating that behaviour.

    Honestly, for a long time, thanks be to God, l find it easier not to sin than to sin. That’s good! That doesn’t make me a Pharisee who says ” look at my perfection, l am righteous and better than other people” nor does it mean that l am stating that l have lived perfectly and sinlessly all of my life. For all humans have sinned except when Jesus dwelled on Earth he was sinless, as he is in Heaven. No other matches Jesus perfection! Yet, Jesus does implore us to model ourselves on him, and if we say we can’t out of respect for him, ” how can we be like him” he wouldn’t hesitate to tell us that we should out of respect for him.

    Of course if l did a wrong to someone, l would also confess and apologise to the wronged person and l wouldn’t wait until God asked or ordered me to do so!

    It’s complex, but l depend totally on God, and l try to be gracious investing trust in people because most people will live up to the trust you have in them, l know, but deep down, l only trust God.

  • Ever watch the movie Life is Beautiful Adrian? The father who was sent to a death camp with his little boy and he kept his cool making humor to his son?

    Always be happy.

    There are only two types of commenters that get me angry: Nazis and homosexuals. I must confess that I hate these two. Anything else I can tolerate.

  • “I think prophecy of St Francis about a “destroyer pope” increasingly describes Pope Francis.”

    You really think so Adrian? I have heard this before, but not sure about it.

    I will wait a few more years to see who comes after Francis. But if another Pope does who is much much more terrible, will you remember to come back to this comment and admit you were wrong?

    This might take a few years. But will you remember to find this comment and post a followup and admit you were wrong? That might be a decade or so from now.