Donald Trump Just Declared That Jerusalem Is The Capital Of Israel, And That The US Embassy Will Be Moved To Jerusalem. Pope Francis Says That This Will Only Cause Further Violence In The Middle East

By Theodore Shoebat

Trump has just declared Jerusalem to be the capital of Israel, and said that the US embassy will be moved to Jerusalem. As we read in one report from the New York Times:

President Trump on Wednesday formally recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, reversing nearly seven decades of American foreign policy and setting in motion a plan to move the United States Embassy from Tel Aviv to the fiercely contested Holy City.

“Today we finally acknowledge the obvious: that Jerusalem is Israel’s capital,” Mr. Trump said from the Diplomatic Reception Room of the White House. “This is nothing more or less than a recognition of reality. It is also the right thing to do. It’s something that has to be done.”

The president cast his decision as a break with decades of failed policy on Jerusalem, which the United States, along with virtually every other nation in the world, has declined to recognize as the capital since Israel’s founding in 1948. That policy, he said, brought us “no closer to a lasting peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians.”

“It would be folly to assume that repeating the exact same formula would now produce a different or better result,” Mr. Trump declared.

Recognizing Jerusalem, he added, was “a long overdue step to advance the peace process.”

Hours before Trump made this announcement, Pope Francis expressed his worry that such a move will only further enflame the situation in the Middle East. As a report from the New York Post recounts:

Pope Francis, speaking hours before U.S. President Donald Trump’s announcement on Jerusalem, called on Wednesday for the city’s “status quo” to be respected, saying new tension in the Middle East would further inflame world conflicts.

Trump is due on Wednesday to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and set in motion the relocation of the U.S. Embassy to the ancient city, senior U.S. officials said, a decision that upends decades of U.S. policy and risks fueling further violence in the Middle East.

In an appeal at the end of his weekly general audience, Francis called for all to honor United Nations resolutions on the city, which is sacred to Jews, Christians and Muslims.

“I make a heartfelt appeal so that all commit themselves to respecting the status quo of the city, in conformity with the pertinent resolutions of the United Nations,” he said.

The Vatican backs a two-state solution to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, with both sides agreeing on the status of Jerusalem as part of the peace process.

Palestinians want East Jerusalem as the capital of their future independent state, whereas Israel has declared the whole city to be its “united and eternal” capital.

The pope told thousands of people at his general audience: “I cannot keep quiet about my deep worry about the situation that has been created in the last few days.”

He said he hoped “wisdom and prudence prevail, in order to avoid adding new elements of tension to a global panorama that is already convulsed and marked by so many and cruel conflicts.”


  • magaforever

    No opinion of the popes spinelessness ?? Do we only agree with the pope now or are we supposed to never call him out for such heretical spinelessness??

  • Ceirwyn

    Let’s face it, the middle east is headed for violence one way or another. Something decent ought to come out of it. And it does need to get back in shape for the return of the King.

  • Matt

    This is a disturbing move by President Trump and it certainly fits hand in glove with the global Antichrist Luciferian agenda well underway.

    This will inflame Muslims and the Middle East, and it’ll also inflame the left who fanatically side with Palestine in the Israel versus Palestine conflict, similar to how many on the right fanatically side with Israel. This means that Trump’s move won’t merely destabilise the Middle East it’ll further destabilise America as well.

    It’s hard to know how much influence a standing president has anymore given how deeply entrenched transnational corporation money and influence is in politics.

    One thing is certain, whoever is pulling the strings knows exactly what they are doing.

    It seems from the outside looking in that no major institution in the world, (that includes the Church), is short on infiltrators and/or traitors these days.

    I do see our lack of strong (virtuous) and principled leadership as part of God’s chastisement toward us for our “falling away” from Him as Christians.

    A period of refinement is fast approaching, and it’s not going to be pleasant…

    • magaforever

      God agrees with trumps move..God ismnt about false peace which is what weve been in.. Hes about a dividing sword

      • Matt

        It is true that God has Providence. That’s why I said our weak leaders are part of our chastisement right now, that’s God’s Providence at work.

        If this is a legitimate move to usher in the End Times, I don’t see that as something to celebrate because it means man has reached his lowest point since Christ established Christendom. It’s an “as in the days of Noah” scenario.

        You know the old adage, “It’s often darkest before the dawn.” When the fullness of the mystery of iniquity is revealed and the man of sin finally unveiled, humanity will be in the midst of the greatest crisis we have ever faced. It’s going to be brutal.

        Christ said, “whoever humbles Himself will be exalted.” How many of us are truly ready to put Him first no matter what the cost?

        If we are faithful, He will bless us with the grace we need to endure and see us through to the other side (heaven). But if any of us assume this is going to be ‘easy’, that’s hubris, and we are going to be in for a very rude shock (possibly an eternally fatal shock).

        God help us all.

        • magaforever

          We dont have a weak leader anymore we have a MAN who actually fulfills his promises and honors God instead of muslims like the pope

          • Matt

            A man who waived the fag flag in order to get elected?

            Nice one.

            You’re dreaming and merely prove the point I made i.e. many on the right in America are fanatically pro-Israel, in the same way as many on the left are fanatically pro-Palestine.

          • magaforever

            Didnt see the pope condemn him for that like he did over the jerusalem issue..or condemn the scotus for making that unconstitutional move to make it legal for fags to marry in all 50 states ..but trump did…trump said it should have been up to the states…but trump isnt the scotus now is he?? He cant undo the scotus decision even if he wanted to could he??

          • Matt

            You see, this is where you and I are completely different.

            I have no problem whatsoever admitting the Pope’s faults (or the faults of baptised/ordained Catholics in general in this era – mine included).

            Didn’t I already note in this thread we have weak leaders and specifically included the Church and cited our “falling away” as the root cause?


            The pope isn’t meant to be worshipped as god, (never has been), and neither is a president. The pope is NOT a Pharaoh.

            I’m critical of Trump in the same way as I’m critical of the Pope. I do try to exercise restraint in these criticisms because slander is much too common today, and will still sometimes catch myself falling into it. Slander has become a cultural norm. It’s disgusting.

            Trump has waived the fag flag and pledged his allegiance to the sodomites (and to Christians) whereas Christ said we have one choice, God or mammon, we cannot choose both.

            You bash the pope all day every day while ignoring Trump’s public allegiance to sodomites, claiming he is “a man of God” as though he’s a Christian saint. Something is a miss there…

            Michael Savage, a Jewish conservative, agrees that Trump’s move is insane, and it is. This action does give Muslims and Islam a reason to unite and further nourishes the seeds of warfare and genocide.

            Personally, I prefer a divided Islam than a united one. This move empowers an Erdogan, it doesn’t weaken him. It does weaken America because you are divided on this issue as a nation.

            We’re talking about real lives and real consequences here. You aren’t factoring in everything that’s at play and the potential consequences of this completely unnecessary yet calculated Luciferian move.

            The debate regarding the Jews right to Israel isn’t a black and white issue, not even from a Biblical or Christian standpoint. The Jews have been banished from Israel by God more than once due to disobedience. This is a fact of Sacred Scripture.

            This move threatens Israel and the Jews, in the same way as it threatens the wider Middle East and the West. We might not see the consequences of this action for another decade or more, but if every action does have an equal and opposite reaction, expect those consequences to major.

            America, as it stands, DOES NOT have the moral high ground. NO NATION DOES at this time. When a nation embraces the Social Kingship of Christ once more, that nation will have the moral high ground in this war. Until then it’s simply a matter of the blind leading the blind to destruction.

          • filomena seiffert

            He is a pea brain with a murderous heart

          • Higlac

            Please let me trigger your memory, “matt”: it also was Trump who has tried to STOP “transsexuals” from joining the US Army and other Armed Forces. Ergo, it would seem to me that he doesn’t really have all that much allegiance to the “LGBT” MONSTERS who truly want to corrupt and destroy the USA and the entire Western world!!!!

            That he waved the “LGBT flag” was apparently simple politicking at the time (trying to win last year’s Presidential election). Yes, I personally didn’t want him to do anything of the sort and was quite disappointed when he did. However, he still is a great deal better compared to the alternatives then available (both Hillary Clinton-Rodham and Bernard Sanders would have been absolute CALAMITIES!!!!).

            As to inflaming Moslems and the Middle East: the Moslems are anyway virtually ALWAYS inflamed by the very nature of their ideological-SYSTEM!!!! They NEVER are in anything resembling a quiet, peaceful, contented state of mind the way we in the West generally are: it takes nothing to make them explode against somebody and something. This is especially the case when it comes to us “filthy, stupid infidels” – which means everybody and everything “un-Islamic”!!! Consequently, I see no point about them complaining &/or threatening Trump and the West for his doing what he did (something I most absolutely REJOICE in – Jerusalem most truly IS the Jewish capital!!!). They anyway think only in terms of annihilating us all, so let them have something to hate us all the more for!!!

            Finally, as far as the “end times” are concerned: they can’t be really postponed. When Our Lord Wills that things happen, they truly WILL happen, short and simple.

          • 1PierreMontagne1

            You are as you say completely different; but it is not that different, it is called Trump Derangement Syndrome. Many are those who profess a belief in god and who wax eloquent while negative on Trump because under Trump the world is seeing the fulfillment of events that will lead to fulfillment of prophecy in Revelation and even Daniel. Trumps move on Jerusalem advances Gods timeline. This is not a problem it is a requirement. Read the last book of the bible Revelation – God wins.

          • Matt

            You are doing what it seems almost everyone in Western culture seems to do nowadays, taking specific criticisms to extremes. If I criticise Trump, I must be “anti-Trump.” If I praise Trump, I must “never criticise Trump for anything because that would be traitorous”

            I’ve already written on this post I’m not anti-Trump and I’m not zealously pro-Trump.

            Fanatics claim to “know the will of God” when it comes to End Times prophecy events and will push their agenda no matter what the real life costs and consequences (WHILE IGNORING the weighter matters of the law e.g. sexual liberation which is completely Antichrist).

            Prophesy is a speculative area for various reasons, not the least of which is “what is God’s exact time line?” Christ tells us the following:

            Matthew 24:36 (DRA)

            36 But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone.

            I’m not buying this BS that Trump has made this decision because he’s ” a man of God” as though he’s some kind of holy saint. One day he might be. Right now, again, I’m not buying it.

            If Trump was this man of God all these fanatical types are making him out to be, he wouldn’t be defending sodomites for one.

          • filomena seiffert

            You shut your mouth . Now you are worshiping trump and attacking the pope, the legitimate representative of Jesus Christ. I can see how you will be easily deceived by the Antichrist.

          • magaforever

            Shut you mouth i never bowed to trump or prayed to him the pope is illegitimate becaise Jesus christ would never deny or capitulate to the muslims and tip toe around the fact jerusalem belongs to israel.. Youre not supposed to worship the pope you moron youre supposed to hold him accountable for his heretical words amd cowtowing to islam amd muslims if you do worship the pope then youre not a true Catholic

          • magaforever

            Tell me how the pope washing muslim feet and not calling out islam as evil honors God..

          • filomena seiffert

            Did Jesus ever called the Roman Empire evil ? You fail to recognise that every creature on this planet was created and os loved by God, and I mean every living being.

          • magaforever

            Wrong.. Heres a great quote from a shoebat article… To read Psalm 11 in context it reminds us of exactly what we see when wicked Muslim terrorists use their ‘arrows’ while hiding in the shadows destroying the foundations of society and how the righteous responds as the Lord observes and leads the righteous from above. He expresses how He hates the wicked who initiate and “love violence”:

            For look, the wicked bend their bows;
            they set their arrows against the strings
            to shoot from the shadows
            at the upright in heart.
            When the foundations are being destroyed,
            what can the righteous do?
            The Lord is in his holy temple;
            the Lord is on his heavenly throne.
            He observes everyone on earth;
            his eyes examine them.
            The Lord examines the righteous,
            but the wicked, those who love violence,
            he hates with a passion.
            On the wicked he will rain
            fiery coals and burning sulfur;
            a scorching wind will be their lot.
            For the Lord is righteous,
            he loves justice;
            the upright will see his face.

            Psalm 11 describes exactly what we witness from Muslims. Ever wonder about who says that God “never hates”? Here in the Psalm it says that “He hates with a passion”. He also hates the ones who say that He “never hates”. God does not love Syrian rebels, for these “destroy the foundations” as it says in the Psalm. Indeed, God is love, for His love for the righteous, He destroys the wicked by raining sulfur

        • magaforever

          Every one of the muslim bastards that commit terrorist acts has the freewill to not do it trump doesn’t “usher” them into it..they have freewill to act like savages and we will have freewill to slaughter them in self defense.

        • Стефан Евгений

          The Pope is not alone Matt.

          • Matt

            Great to hear from you Stefan.

            The Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem is a strong voice of wisdom and reason. This was an excellent talk, thanks for sharing.

            We do need sobriety right now not fanaticism, and there is far too much fanaticism on both sides of this issue, both in the pro-Israel and the pro-Palestine camp.

    • filomena seiffert

      I agree with you. Many west nations will be purged because of their many sins. It is necessary because luciferian politicians and corporations are transforming the planet in a living hell, not a drop of compassion for anyone, and more all they care about is more power and more money to totally dominate society. and Jerusalem is called in Revelation the Babylon and Egypt where Our Lord was crucified. That trump sold his soul to the devil is apparent by his actions from old.

  • luis

    I wish this Pope Would step cow toeing to the Muslims

    • magaforever

      Instead of wishing tell your local bishop to oppose the antichrist pope..if nobody will hold the popes careless muhammad capitulation accountable then all is lost

      • luis

        I am Protestant so I don’t speak to the bishop. However I do talk to other Protestants about their unbiblical idiotic opinions on Catholics and Orthodox Christians. Thankfully I’m noticing more protestants abandoning the left behind Catholic Church antichrist nonsense

    • magaforever

      Francis is too busy mocking Christ by washing infidel muslim feet to wash the feet of catholics and care for what they need or want..Jesus:”feed my sheep” francis: “i wash muslim feet!”

    • AnthonyM

      I don’t think the Pope kowtow to muslims, but encouraging dialog. A leader will not get musch response from an adversary if the leader spits in their eye, or just ‘rips him a new one’, to use an expression.

      • luis

        I am all for dialogue but when Christians are being slaughtered all over the world and the homosexuals are infiltrating and destroying the church and the Muslims are trying to declare the holy city of God to be theirs it is time to speak up and not play Mr. nice guy. Just look at the stories throughout the Bible there’s a time and a place and sometimes the church needs to stand up for itself

      • filomena seiffert

        This is correct. Jesus never made distinction on who would enter the Kingdom, He said He came for sinners, the ones needing a doctor of the spirit.

    • 1PierreMontagne1

      The Pope is a Liberal Socialist an impossible position for a Christian and not a true believer and not a supporter of Christ. He sees mans hope as not in Christ but in capitulation to Islamist bullying and Terror – be nice to them and hope they will be nice to us. British PM Neville Chamberlain pursued the same type appeasement out of fear with the Nazis of WWII.

  • jmaggief

    So according to this pope’s statement Christians living in Rome should have offered sacrifice to the Roman gods in order to keep the violence down on themselves and their fellow Christians. Then they wouldn’t have been fed to the lions in the Coliseum for refusing to follow orders. I have a feeling if some Muslim puts a blade to this pope’s throat he will denounce his faith just to save his skin. Then he’ll explain it away to us by saying that it would have been be bad for the Flock to lose its Shepherd.

    • Michelle Therese

      SO true through and through!

      Also, this idea that we must tread on eggshells in order not to set off the savages into a violent temper tantrum… is saying that the Muslims as a race… don’t try to make sense of that, you can’t!… cannot be expected to do any better. Or as it is called, “The Racism of Low Expectations” and people on the Left dish it out in heaps and never see their own arrogance and superiority complex!

    • AflowerofStTherese

      I think the Pope was just worried about possible outbreak of war and deaths of innocent lives.

  • Wilma Mills

    Doing what’s right is no excuse for Muslim violence. Jerusalem is their capital. God does not want that land divided.

  • filomena seiffert

    I only see those monsters bushing the pope forgetting he has the power to bind and unbind on earth and it will be done in heaven. The pope is trying to get peace in the world. Jesus was criticised for being friends of tax collectors and prostitutes, did it stop Him from continue His ministry with the scum of society? it seams to me those people do not understand what to be a Christian mean. Be very carefully for what you say for we all have to give account for every word we say.

    • magaforever

      God also hates those who initiate unjust violence (muslims) it says so in psalm 11

      • filomena seiffert

        Israel started the whole violence when it used false flags to start the so called 6 days wars to take and keep the Palestinian lands and continues to invade and take possession of lands from other nations such the Golan Heights and other lands. You the most unjust gruesome, violent mind I have ever known. There is not one single instance Jesus advocated violence.

        • Indian Christian Crusader

          Actually Jesus whipped money lenders out of the temple, and when He returns, HE will come with to execute physical judgement. You need to have a holistic view of God. For that moment during Jesus ministry, He didn’t, as the purpose was to preach the gospel. That does not mean God forbid any violence as act of self-defense against wicked.

          • filomena seiffert

            You answered the question, God does not forbid a person to defend self against the attacks of others. The same way crusaders had to defend Christianity against muslim hordes so do muslim can defend themselves from the western invaders and all invaders.

          • filomena seiffert

            All you say are conjectures, no one knows how God will act on His coming.

        • magaforever


          • filomena seiffert

            Look vampire, I am honored in being called any animal because I know they are innocent and pleasing to God. No human can be perfect leader but some are far worse then others, more like devils. Imagine you been a president, the planet would be blasted on the first year and all living species would be extinct and you soul would born in hell

          • magaforever

            Lol another presumptuous stupid anti God statement.. You know nothing about me or what i would do as president…what you would do is keep allowing Islamist jihadis to murder without impediment then you would burn in hell;)

          • filomena seiffert

            All you say is trash and do not deserve my time. Tchau

          • magaforever

            Literally all you spew is hypocrisy in your judgement of my soul as if you can know my intentions as if you are God.. It is fake catholic scum jihad enablers like you that give the church a bad hypocrites who are like francis who demand nations dont have border walls while he lives behind vatican walls

          • magaforever

            Youre a hypocrite just like the pope until you take in muslim refugees and take the locks off your door..

          • magaforever

            Joel 3:2New International Version (NIV)

            2 I will gather all nations
                and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat.[a]
            There I will put them on trial
                for what they did to my inheritance, my people Israel,
            because they scattered my people among the nations
                and divided up (MY LAND.)

            There is no palestine and if you believe there is and stand with the muslim theft of Gods land Israel then you will rightly burn with the arrogant thieving greedy pigs that already have 99 percent of the land in the mid east

        • magaforever

          Israeli hating imposter of the church why dont you move to make believe land palestine and fight for your true cause then if you oppose israel??

        • 1PierreMontagne1

          Israel started the 6 day war? How’s that? Oh by merely existing.
          and all the Arab world attacked them and miraculously little Israel defeated them all. God rewarded Israel with the entire city of Jerusalem but the Marxist political leaders of then Israel rejected what God gave them and split the city into two as it remains to this day despite being recognized as Israels capital .

      • filomena seiffert

        So God must hate trump and USA with all its warmongers presidents and the military compound.

  • filomena seiffert

    It does not matter, the other nations will not accept Jerusalem as Jewish land. Trump is just acting under the demonic influence to start blood shed.

    • Indian Christian Crusader

      It is the choice of Muslims whether they want to do blood shed or not. To provoke using declarations or signatures is one thing, to commit bloodshed with acts of violence and stone pelting is another. May be it is time you assigned some responsibility to the Muslims for their CHOICES of reacting. no matter how emotive things may be. There is a difference between peaceful protests and all out bloodshed.

      • filomena seiffert

        The blood shed Israel shed from the muslim and stealing their lands is lawful ? Jesus did not discriminated anyone He preached to Samaritans. Humanity understanding of Christianity has reached a low level, so different from the first Christians. Peter was skirmish of who they should accept as brother but a towel descended from heaven with all kinds of animals and he was ordered to kill and eat, when he refused to eat saying nothing impure had entered his mouth the Lord said: do not call impure what God has sanctified.

      • filomena seiffert

        Let one take your house, murder your family and see how you feel and acts then tell me your reaction.

        • Indian Christian Crusader

          I am not talking about going that extreme, I am saying, if someone makes a declaration or says something, there is no need to respond with physical violence. Muslims have a lot to blame for their actions as well. You can’t respond to words/ideas with physical violence. That’s what a lot of Muslims are doing.That’s all I am saying.

    • magaforever

      To quote maggie above…” So according to this pope’s statement Christians living in Rome should have offered sacrifice to the Roman gods in order to keep the violence down on themselves and their fellow Christians. Then they wouldn’t have been fed to the lions in the Coliseum for refusing to follow orders.”

      • filomena seiffert

        People are taking words out of context to demonize the pope. He is truly following the teachings of Jesus. How many will be saved?

    • luis

      What are you talking about? Declaring that Jerusalem belongs to that Jews is demonic? Sorry but the Pope need to be speaking the truth if the gospel not taking political side she or trying to placate to the Palestinians. The true demonic force is the splitting of Gods land. Trump is far from perfect but. In this situation he is correct

      • filomena seiffert

        How is the pope political when he addresses all faiths, jewish, muslim, buddism and all others with the same respect and means of dialogue ? he is doing just what Jesus commanded and did.

        • luis

          Have you not heard him talk about global warming, immigration and refugee’s, as well as building bridges not walls. He has been a very political pope

          • filomena seiffert

            I never heard that want the good of whole human rice is political, in that case Jesus was political. You acting just like the jews in Jesus time, they only wanted God to favors them.

  • jmaggief

    Jesus appeared to Pope Francis and told him , “ Get behind me, Satan!”

    • filomena seiffert

      What you say is blasphemy

      • CTyank

        But He said that to Peter, right?

  • Methusalem

    Pope Francis posted on Instagram a picture featuring himself ‘blessing’ a Muslim/Hindu family.

    Supported by the words:

    “Let us not close our hearts, let us not look away. The presence of God today is also called Rohingya. ”

    Is the Pope Muslim?

    • Michelle Therese

      The coddling of more invaders.
      They are always poor widdle “Refugees” to the Media, we never hear about how they originally invaded and began to violently enact Jihad as their numbers grew, and now they are being driven off. No, they are poor widdle victims and the Pope needs to bless their sweet heads.

      (I do not extend my biting loathing towards the truly innocent children, and many of the women that are dragged along and are abused and persecuted by their own male jihadi “weffugees”…)

    • AnthonyM

      You asked “Is the Pope Muslim?” No, he is not muslim. We must strive to see Christ in all people, thereby spreading the gospel.

      The Rohingya people (aka Arakanese Indians) are a stateless people from Myanmar, former Burma undergoing ethnic cleansing. The majority of the countries population (80 to 89%) practices Buddhism, According to 2014 census, 6.2% of the population identifies as Christian; 4.3% as Muslim.

  • Michelle Therese

    Oh dear me… we must all walk on egg shells so as not to upset the precious little invaders. God forbid if we upset the savages and they violently riot!

    We need to instead enact our Leftist thinly veiled “Racism of Low Expectations” and coddle the little howling Jihadi darlings.

  • Стефан Евгений

    I think Christians should take a step back and look how this will affect the christian communities.
    It is not a pleasant situation there. Godmother and I stopped going in the nineties we thought it was becoming too dangerous.
    There are forces who wish to push the Christians out of the old city.

    Patriarch of Jerusalem Theophilos lll

  • johny man

    what do you think of the triodity presidents xi,putin and trump defeating the antichrist as abundanthope,net claims?

  • Julius Dennis

    I am glad Trump did this but president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan wants take over the Temple mount i see Daniel chapter 8 repeating itself Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is the goat in Daniel 8 while Iran is ram Iran will take over Shia crescent in seven years Turkey will rule the middle east.

  • filomena seiffert

    The pope said he will sell the lamborghini given to 2 weeks ago he give the money to the persecuted Christians in Iraq and some other charity. Need to read about the pope does not to the slanders

  • filomena seiffert

    The pope said he will sell the lamborghini given to 2 weeks ago he give the money to the persecuted Christians in Iraq and some other charity. Need to read about the pope does not to the slanders

  • Brick

    An old Chinese saying, “Rich man lost his horse, not really knows whether its fortunate or unfortunate”. We can take this positively or negatively. Each person had saw a point, and perhaps some of us had forgot to see where our fellow brethren might saw something different than us. But, let us remember(include myself as well) and pray that the Spirit will help us to remove the plank from our eyes before we attempt to remove the speck from our fellow brethren.

    Personally, following the for a while, and kept on reading Andrew, Ted, and Mr. Shoebat talking about the foreign policy of USA does not change, it makes me speculate that this action of Trump is not a “personal intuitive action”, but “carefully calculated scheme”. I do think Pope Francis’ concern is both legitimate and not legitimate. From one perspective, this action will surely further distablize Middle East, from another perspective, it is already very much distablized and it just add another excuses to fuelling the hates and anger.

    So, my thought is this: Persecution is going to become even bigger in Middle East soon, we should save up our moneys to get our brothers and sisters out there!!

    • Ceirwyn

      I’ve been thinking the same thing about Trump. This non-action in recognizing something that was decided back in the 90s smells like a distraction for what Trump is really doing. It’s smart to look around see what other things are happening in the shadows.

  • Nikolai

    You don’t understand the bible.
    How many curse did Jesus gave to the jews? The jews don’t deserve the land. And if the true jews do not deserve the land, how much more the fake jews?

  • Matt

    Thanks Ed.

    I wasn’t really trying to win anyone over on it, what’s done is done. I was simply sharing my own personal take and reading of the situation and its potential ramifications.

    A couple of fellow readers did take issue with this (and/or took a point or two out of context), as is their right. No harm, no foul. I don’t expect everyone to agree with everything I write all of the time, if ever 😀

    In saying that, it is always nice when someone appreciates a comment that was shared and to connect with them in a like minded manner (whether as the writer or reader, or both).

  • magaforever

    Shes a israeli hating church imposter she probably already knlws

  • AflowerofStTherese

    I would really like to know what is Mr.Shoebat’s take on this.

  • AflowerofStTherese

    Word lol

  • Higlac

    Dear Matt:

    It’s quite possible that I’ve read too much into your comment, in which case I apologise.

    You’re quite right to NEVER adulate or blindly obey anybody (other than God Himself, obviously) – here I agree completely. Truly, Western culture and mores have gone FAR “south”: our accepting homosexuality far past the point of merely not persecuting sodomites is very much a yardstick thereof. Of course this is heavily reinforced by the Marxists (both Communists AND Nazis) and their spiritual parents the humanists and the non-Christians (particularly atheists on one hand, pagans on another) who’ve dared in this climate of “tolerance”, “multiculturalism” and all those other Marxist shibboleths to turn our ideals into a witch-hunt against Christians and Christianity, period!!!

    At the same time, that anybody stands up to the Marxists’ continued initiatives to kill our basic Judæo-Christian, individualism-loving, Western civilisation at all is praiseworthy.. They’ll most absolutely NEVER – repeat, NEVER – be satisfied until all our mores and values have become extinct &/or proscribed!!! Granted that we want not only to stop this wave of humanist-corruption but also to force it back (and how!!!): we still have to consider our limited resources and how best to optimise their utilisation.

    This reply is VERY incomplete and will be soon updated and amplified. This can serve as a stub for now.

    • Matt

      Higlac, we’re familiar enough with each other now to know that whatever our view, it is sincere, and whatever our differences, we still hold the utmost respect for one another.

      You share your views with conviction and that’s to be admired.

      The truth of the matter, as previously stated, I’m fairly neutral on Trump yet slightly lean in favour of thinking the best of him. I’d take Trump over my nations PM any day. The difference is Christianity is pretty much dead in my nation. The right party here isn’t vocally Christian like the right party in the US. That’s why our PM, on the right, was able to zealously campaign for same-sex marriage without consequence.


      “The new law deletes “the union of a man and a woman” from the definition of marriage and inserts “the union of two people” in its place. Australia already had “equality” laws giving special status to homosexuals in the workplace, and for government benefits and tax laws.

      Significantly, none of the promised amendments protecting freedom of conscience, religious liberty, and parental rights were allowed. All opposition concerns were defeated, including the right of parents to opt out of homosexual or transgender indoctrination in schools.

      Specifically, the new law does not give allowances for Christian business owners to choose who they will employ based on their religious values, nor does it protect them from being forced to participate in homosexual weddings — despite their sincerely-held beliefs in one-man, one-woman marriage.

      Also defeated were conscience and faith amendments to allow Christians and others disagreeing with gay “marriage” to be granted free speech. ”

      This is where my nation and people are at. Americans under Trump have got it great compared to us 😀

      We had a Catholic PM, Abbott, who was staunchly and publicly defending the Catholic ethic. The media continued to demonise him and mock his traditional values day and night, until Turnbull finally had the support to overthrow Abbott from within. It took him 2, maybe 3 tries, but he eventually got their with the help of our traitorous media.

      Abbott, a Catholic, is wheat. Turnbull, also a baptised Catholic, (and a former chief of Goldman Sachs), is a weed. The majority of Catholics in this nation have completely lost touch with the Faith. The Church is in a state of crisis here.

      The Australia people, as a collective, are completely apathetic towards Christ’s Divine Positive Law. They couldn’t care less about it. There are individual exceptions of course. We’re a Luciferian Masonic colony, it’s as simple as that.

      Trust me, the good Trump has done and is going hasn’t gone unnoticed. But I can’t overlook the sins of the West and Trump is doing absolutely nothing as the leader of the American people to address this GREATER enemy within (that is literally destroying us). He’s trying to defend God AND Mammon at the same time.

      Weeds can’t be pruned. They must be ripped out at the root. As long as America, in its liberalism, continues to assert they can keep pruning the weeds in their society without consequence, the further into the abyss America will fall (long term), like Australia and much of the West is right now.

    • Matt

      Thanks Higlac.

      I’ll try remember to check here for your reply and update this message to reflect that.

      (I did write another response that vanished…again…not sure if you got around to reading that while it was live).

      My choice term when describing this war against us is Luciferian or Luciferianism, because it is universal in nature and the very antithesis of what Christendom stands for. Another excellent term we could use to describe it is secular humanism. I tend to habitually write Luciferian because it points toward the deeper reality/truth that this is a spiritual war:

      Ephesians 6:12 (DRA)

      12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places.

      Thanks for taking the time to connect and share your views on these matters.

      Have a blessed day.

      • Higlac

        You’re welcome, “Matt”.

        As of today I’ve tried to build upon my latest point upon this thread. It seems that it’s gone into moderation; however, once it’s approved, perhaps you then might find something of at least a little worth therein.

        As to humanism: secular humanism is still simply humanism. ANYTHING that turns anybody against God is from the Devil in the end analysis…

    • Matt

      Higlac, if you can spare the time, check out this End Times talk from Father Ripperger:

      Listening to this reminded me of a recent discussion we had.

      Part 2 will be posted on the same channel tomorrow more than likely.

  • filomena seiffert

    Pope Francis is not doing any pro islam move, he is working to have some peace on the world. He is among muslim in his visits to their country should he say you are persecuting Christians. Jesus preached to Samaritans which the Jews hated and never said only Jews would be saved and never said we should disregard others from salvation or from our friendship. He said he came for sinners. Why can’t you understand that?. I certainly would prefer Jerusalem to became the Christian capital of the world, it not possible at least be the Jews capital but not throw violence. Islam is a invention of the devil I do not like to have that mosque on the city where the Savior shed His blood, but God is powerful and it will come a time satan will be defeated. As for the pope does not help the way you fake Catholics persecute him, you should be respectful because he represents Jesus here on earth, whether you want or not. Please address him by pope Frances, do not be another luther.

  • Matt

    It’s lovely to meet another nutjob who has everything about everything all figured out. It’s not like we have a shortage of them in this day and age or anything.

    Anyone who dares to disagree or question ‘your’ interpretation of world events and Bible prophecy (and God’s time line) is wack.

    Got it. Thanks so much for your insightful contribution. I’ll start worshipping the ground Trump walks on immediately and blindly trust in his every move.

    When in doubt, I’ll immediately seek your wise and infallible counsel.


  • AflowerofStTherese

    Read the link….last week’s advent theme was “hope” — the antithesis for the natural fear we are overwhelmed with being surrounded by evil at all times.

  • paulette barrow